World of Warcraft Dragonflight Has Issues... Can They Be Fixed?? | WoW

I love World of Warcraft. It's my favorite game of all time I can easily say that. But is it still good enough to demand my attention..? Here I discuss 3 big things the game has working against it and why these are so problematic. Here's hoping to a better future in Azeroth!!
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[@krazymyke1526]

As a long time MMo player and one who has spent hundreds of hours on the last few Wow expansions I completely agree with your take on everything. I do think Wow is a great game but it has become a very hard game to get into. Can't do raids or Mythic + unless your good and very little wiggle room to learn and become good. gear being reset every 6 months imo is a problem. I pretty much agreed with all your takes.

[@Vizzient]

Think a lot of people all kind of find the same struggles in the modern day WoW we have to play which is sad cause we love it. Thanks for watching friend!

[@Nightstalker314]

Why do I always see footage of high end keys (rewards, not open end ranking) when complaining about M+? The bulk of all runs is done below 20 if not 15. And the success-rate comparing season to season has only gone up lately. If you play in Classic you reset 95% of your gear every raid release. Only exception being trinkets (because the new ones might suck) or you have the healer legendary.

[@thedagwood1972]

Excellent take, I agree 1000%. I have a couple of friends that are trying to play casually, a few hours a week, and they are constantly gearing, by the time they get a decent set they have it for a week and then a new season starts. It's getting very frustrating. And the toxicity within rated pvp and any sort of dungeon or raid progression is just impossible. I'm considering playing something else, for the first time in a long time. Kinda sad.

[@Vizzient]

Honestly the community being shitty to one another is such an under appreciated element of why this game is being held back. And then there's the whole community who cry's and rages as soon as you mention the flaws of the game even if it's in an attempt to bring awareness and look for solutions. Sad times because the gameplay and xpac itself are actually solid. Thank you for watching!!

[@natashagalaxy7228]

My biggest problem with any mmo is I have really bad social anxiety and going into a raid or joining a group or guild of people I don't know is really hard for me. I main Astrologian in FF14 so when i came back to WoW i really wanted to heal and when I was doing a dungeon I was just getting flamed by my group for not understanding how to play Holy Pally at like level 18 doing wailing caverns and also not using heal bot because in FF we don't have add-ons. After that I just never played again.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah the unfortunate reality is most people in WoW even at low levels expect you to know as much as them always. My best suggestion is always find a good casual and friendly guild. Usually the best way to find helpful and like minded people. Some people just are toxic though of course. Thanks for watching :)

[@svetlanawilson6831]

100% agree with everything. One more things i don’t like that you get the coolest mounts only for gladiator pvp. Compare pvp gladiator mount Crimson gladiator drake and mount for collecting 500 mounts achievement. Not even a drake and this expansion name is Dragonflight.

[@Vizzient]

Those damn glad mounts are so cool 😂

[@Gibs6051]

Vanilla plus is the answer. Keep the game simple and just add more content... doesn't have to be hard, just more, simple content that builds on itself.

[@Vizzient]

Seems to be what the people want! Thanks for watching :)

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

Excellent video, keep up the good work this channel is going to blow up

[@Vizzient]

The support is much appreciated! Thanks for watching :)

[@FodderMoosie]

I remember spending SO much time in WoW when I was in university (2006), for a few years at least - I packed it up some time during WotLK. So I know I'm way out of touch with how it's changed, but... damn, I had no idea it looked like that, lol. I was always in it for the small-time adventures, I suppose. I enjoyed getting my two mains up to lvl. 80, but the couple times I tried any of the endgame stuff, it's like you said - I was way out of my league, it was an insanely complex series of maneuvers I was supposed to know, and I got yelled at for not knowing how. The fun things about WoW were just... gone. Different strokes for different folks, I know. I was there to complete quests, explore the world, and RP here and there when the inspiration struck. Even way back then, I could sorta tell that the game wasn't being developed with people like me in mind. So I just sorta parted ways with it. It sucks to see that it's just gotten exponentially more complex and bloated. Hope people are still having fun, even if I personally can't imagine how... Take care, fellow adventurers! Keep yer feet on the ground!

[@Vizzient]

It's a new world out in Azeroth! Honestly graphically it looks amazing. Plays very well too, just plagued by what I mentioned here unfortunately. At least in my humble opinion. Thanks for watching!!

[@SonySteals]

That’s why wow needs a reboot. Something that’s close to classic but modernised in gameplay. Where the world is the main hero, not the player, and something that doesnt feel like a cluster f of 20 years of changes

[@Vizzient]

The player character being the huge focus and cosmic hero always seems to put me off. I don't want the story to revolve around me I want it to be about Azeroth! Thanks for watching :)

[@monkeyjames9285]

agree reset if convert one my dudes over don't lose all gear just want keep him one few alts back day 2008 one few thing had connect with my father so for me as long transfer my pally maybe few other but mostly my pally agree to reset

[@theygotit2167]

Love that Time-Slime-Prime is casting Out of Sync when you are talking about the player base deminishing (as in blizzard being out of sync with its own player base)

[@Vizzient]

We're getting deep over here XD sad but true. Thanks for watching :)

[@Akeche]

And yet, I see so many teeny tiny channels of people recording their journey as a first time WoW player. Having fun, getting to 70 and still having fun.

[@Vizzient]

It's definitely not impossible. But I would consider less the people actively doing it for content and more the people who play just to try it and are overwhelmed and can't get into it. More of an honest experience I guess.

[@lColbyl]

I think i could summarize it in two things in my view. First, for veterans the community is just toxic i know some people would disagree but having to be near perfect and have experience to get experience in both pvp and pve is just ridiculous and i think it becomes a bad experience unless youre part of the what? 0.1% that has a guild. I can play many other mmorpgs and as long as im reasonably geared i can try a raid and have fun. And then the second is that new players have no incentive to play. I tried to get my partner into this game last year and she was yanked around expansions, totally lost, and had a horrible time. So we are losing players due to #1 and not getting new players due to #2

[@Vizzient]

Totally agree! Playing other MMO's has made me realize how rough the WoW community really is... And yeah I can't begin to imagine trying to just start retail these days. Thanks for watching!

[@rabbit4400]

I tried getting in to WoW so many times so many years. First one was Panda one I think and then going back to it every year and honestly what I hated the most was the community. I just ended up playing alone or with my fiance and we did low level raids solo for fashion, mount collection and story of latest expansion. But yeah I agree with all these other points as well and my first true mmo which I devoted all my time with was SWTOR and it got tiring for the same reason and gradually the community got worse as well. And going from one guild to another and then just try your own and it still get drama at some point. The only mmo I play these days are GW2 since nothing is invalidated and doesnt matter how casual I play. I got it at launch and done so little but what I have done still has value even after 10 years. I am not sponsored by arenanet xD

[@Vizzient]

Community is really key in MMOs and you don't realize it till you go from a good to a bad one or bad to good 😅

[@corfe123]

ban all the mod meters in the game and it's going to be great again. DPS meter addons is the single worst thing that happened to this game. It brings worst in people.

[@Vizzient]

I think meters are okay as a metric for yourself but yeah they basically are used in such a toxic way. Add-ons in general really ruin player immersion. Thanks for watching!!

[@UpgradeLemonade]

I tried to get back into WoW several times but ultimately decided to call GW2 my home. GW values your time in gearing and while you it can be a grind to get ascended or even more so legendary you really only need to do it once forever. Its such a better system. No sub fee, dynamic world events that are active all over new and old zones. Gear dependent and gear non-dependent pvp options. Massive anount of class variety and build options. Strikes and Fractals are quicker and easier to get into for instanced PvE. Everything you said from WoWs add ons to the complex build rotations(and frankly dated combat system) and toxic pvp/pve end game community just holds it back so much.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah it's an unfortunate reality but idk they are at least taking positive steps I guess? At least there are other good options for those who aren't feeling it. Thanks for watching :)

[@StovnOG]

I agree with this completely.. reasons I keep going back to classic era to just backstab and slicendice on my rogue lol

[@Vizzient]

I always find myself going back to classic all the time! Thanks for watching :)

[@v8rockz]

That's why I switched to GW2 after 15 years. Gear grinding p.. me off.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah it certainly gets old pretty fast these days. Been enjoying gw2 though!

[@samwise1790]

I pretty much quit the game at the end of wrath, played some cata, and have hopped back in every now and then and even as someone who sunk a lot of time into the first 6-7 years of the game and raided at a high level, every time I come back it's just impenetrably dense. Ive even kept up with game news closely allll these years hoping I would see the game go in a direction that would be compelling for me to get back into. I play for a couple days and just leave again. Nobody socializes and theres not much reason to. You never see the same people again, in dungeons or in the world. The story is so convoluted, the tone is so different than vanilla-wrath and even cata. Theres so many playable races that just dont seem to fit the game I liked (remember when pandas were an April fools joke? Theres fox-people? Mecha gnomes? Playable dragons that just look like people and arent intimidating?). The classes are so homogenous, like everyone has cc's, self heals, cc breaks, death protection, mobility enhances. Gear is ubiquitous and completely unmemorable, and because of transmogs you have no idea just looking at someone, what they have, what they had to do to get it, what kind of player they are. Gear quality/rarity seems meaningless, the game just showers you in blues and purples practically from the start, devaluing all of it. So many stats and fun little rpg elements have been stripped out of the game. The economy seems totally fucked, especially for a new player or someone returning, with the gold inflation and just the ability to effectively buy it. Professions seem just about worthless. I have little interest in collecting the wow version of funko pops (achievements, mounts, pets, titles, transmogs, toys); I just want to play the game and have it be compelling: the gear is sought after and relatively 'rare', the socialization is important and serves a purpose, the story makes sense, the tone reflects that of warcraft series and Wow 2004-2010, that everything isnt for sale or seemingly on the table to be sold at a future date. For the world to seem big and you to seem small but trying to do your part against the odds, amd getting better in the process. Having just built 2 gaming computers for the first time in about 10 years, In a week or two I plan to jump into classic with my gf and introduce her to the game I loved for her first time. One part because I actually like that game, and I think it is approachable, and the second part because retail seems like an absolute mess to try to get into. Even keeping up to date on game news and systems and with my experience playing, I would probably struggle to get proficient at it. And for what? For everything to be cast to the trash bin every other quarter, and made totally irrelevant every 2 years? I think a reset/revamp is really all they can do. Theyve never shown willingness to both admit what they did was the wrong choice and make the big but necessary decision to delete their own content/mechanics/design.

[@Vizzient]

Love to hear your experiences over the years! I think a lot of people can heavily relate and have felt the same way. Thanks for watching!!

[@samwise1790]

@@Vizzient thanks for the video! There seems to be something of a zeitgeist or collective agreement from alienated players developing around the themes in the video and what I've touched on, hopefully it gains momentum and blizzard hears it and takes action on it.

[@Blakkrazor69]

They have no Loyalty program. City of Heroes/Villains did it best for player retention by having regular rewards for anyone who kept up their subscription. WoW charges full price for every expansion, and a subscription AND a cash shop AAAAND Gold Sales via Token...likely some employees doing it in the "black market" as well on Classic.

[@Vizzient]

Blizz not paying them enough so they have to to stay afloat :( lol jk. Kinda...

[@Dovahnuke]

I think it depends on what you want to do in the game. Seasonal content is great, and gear doesn't really reset because you do use the previous season's gear to help yourself gear up in the new season. I wouldn't be able to time 20s on a first week of a new season if I didn't have good gear from the previous one. Idk much about story or world content to comment on that but I think from a raider/m+ perspective the gearing up process isn't perfect but it works. Currently you can be pretty well geared in just a couple weeks of play but then you have raid drops which unlike m+ you can't really endlessly farm. The complexity of rotations only affects a few specs, like you mentioned arcane mage but that is on the very extreme side of things. If you played a hunter or evoker or similar beginner friendly specs you would have no issues at all learning the rotation. I do agree though that for a new player it might be very daunting just jumping into the game without having done any research into it. Even for a returning player. And yeah tanking and healing is very reliant on having prior experience in the game.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah seasons can have its benefits no doubt I personally just don't like that overnight switch being flipped on me I guess but it's just how the game is structured now. I know those specs seem easy to us vets but I would guess brand new players will still think it's very involved. We are WoW trained and hardwired xD. Thanks for watching :)

[@Uttelito]

The problem with the game is not the game itself, its that its all been done over and over allready, you can put fancy new graphics and dragons in the game but its still the same old game. What made the game fun when we played it alot? well the player base was mostly non toxic, the content feelt fresh and new, the devs listened to their players, it was not a micro transactions game. Ive been playing since vanilla, and what i miss the MOST is the community, my old guild, the feeling that i made a diffrence with my troll priest in a 40 man raid, the excitment when i got my first epic. Now the game is still good and fun to play, but not as it used to be.

[@Vizzient]

Agreed! Still an amazing game. Just can't really bring to the table what it did years ago which is too bad. Thanks for Watching :)

[@surge1366]

WoW should revamp the story content. Problem right now is, no matter what expansion you play, by the end of it, you'll be level capped and sent to the new stuff. They really need to rework it, so that people that want to play through all the content and get invested in the story again. That'd go a long way towards getting new players interested in joining and staying for a while, as they learn the long and beautiful history of Azeroth.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah leveling needs to be somehow revamped to better bring the story and history into the process full circle. Not sure how but it would go a long way! Thanks for watching :)

[@udalix]

But most people just blast through the levels to get to endgame as fast as possible in WoW. Yea I guess it kinda sucks, but current expansion has always been the only relevant content to do in WoW. Like theres nothing stopping someone from being max level and going to all the zones and doing all the quests, playing through all the expansions, albeit the way the scaling works with open world eventually your one shotting everything lol. Earlier expansions dont even have a main quest to follow, your just in the zones picking up random quests as you level.

[@surge1366]

@@udalix Yeah but if you read the quests they tell the story of the expansion. There's a really nice Addon that animates it all for you.I understand what you're saying. But a revamp that made those areas viable would be amazing for the game. I love Mists of Pandaria and stuff, I just wish, like you said, I wasn't one shotting everything, and that doing those quests was worth the time. They want to keep up player retention in WoW, so I reckon that's a way to get people, especially totally new players, to stick around as it would take months to complete all the expansions if proper level scaling were introduced.

[@utikahk4538]

I would love to try to get into retail but i like learning as i go and that's not what groups want. There is just to much to learn and the community is to unforgiving. I would have to look for a guild thats learning stuff.

[@Vizzient]

They are there just a bit harder to find. Any guild will be better than none. Pugs want to zerg and clear; any issues people will rage and leave lol. Thanks for watching!!

[@PsychKenn23]

Good take on these issues. I'd say the bloat can be fixed and they can even do it gradually, and this especially needs to be done for specs like you mentioned Arcane Mage as one that are WAY to button heavy and unforgiving in rotation. As far as the collectors items accumulating I think without removing pets/mounts/titles/transmogs more often than they already do that's just a you have to deal with a 2 decade old game worth of stuff. Finally, the seasonal content I don't have a problem with. If I'm paying a subscription to a game I want to have new power goals, collectables, and such for my characters. I will say they could come up with a currency for the outside world content that would stay relevant throughout the entire expansion that would allow purchasing items that way you'd have people still doing all the world events. I'll add my biggest concern for the game as far as new players is they need a condensed version of the story to run through. Atm the best way is to go watch a bunch of KZbin or you'll be lost forever. I'd like to see them add a scenario system or streamlined questline that pulls you through the major points of each expansion and make it mandatory for new players so you know what the NPCs and other players are talking about.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah I feel like even most veteran players don't have a great grasp on the old stories and lore and I myself only do because of KZbin curiosity. They really gotta find a way to pull more of it together in a cohesive way but there's just so much of it! Who knows, they at least seem motivated to make good changes these days. Thanks for watching!!

[@fenruss]

I dont think pruning the complexity of certain things is a good idea. Remember in WoD when you could faceroll your keyboard on mobs while leveling and they wouldent even dent your hp. As someone who plays both classic and df, the complexity has its place. Sure arcane mage maybe overly complex but some players enjoy that. Fire and frost are much simpler rotations and do just as well. In classic playing mage, in raids you are spamming either frostbolt or fireball depending on your spec and maybe throwing in an occasional fire blast. That over simplified gameplay works in classic but not in retail. With this much pruning within a month players will be complaining the game feels "too easy or too boring" and what have it.

[@Vizzient]

Yep completely agree! Though I do feel like even outside rotation the game just is mega complicated. Even returning after a patch I'm pretty disoriented for a while honestly. Thanks for watching!!

[@udalix]

I like how people have been claiming for years the lfd has ruined wows social aspects. I started playing FF14, a game everyone touts as having a great community.. well guess what it has duty finder, access to dungeons and trials and raids through matchmaking while standing around in a random spot in the world, same shit. I used to think that maybe people were right, I could see how it detracts from meeting and talking to people, but FF14 does it as well and people love that community.

[@Vizzient]

Anyone blaming the LFD is delusional tbh. The player base definitely just changed over time and just got mega jaded... Myself included I will admit! Thanks for watching :)

[@TimberManiac8791]

this game wouldn't be so bloated if it wasn't all crammed into one package . been saying it since BFA . if blizzard would have made the game where a player could play one dlc after another( play vanilla , beat it and after the player was done collecting or doing everything they wanted then transfer into the next DLC and so on through each DLC ) would make it perfect for new players to learn and be able to play through entire storyline and every expansion . and yet when they made classic they did the exact same thing , they added WOTLK to BC ( so now BC & WOTLK are now together again as one DLC.

[@Vizzient]

Invalidate the old and restart with new baby! Wooo

[@skeliskull]

My experience with new players is that most of them don’t really care about a lot of these things. They tend to stick to the easier content until they are ready to level up and start doing harder stuff. They should definitely reduce some of the game’s complexity however it’s important to remember that noobs have very different priorities playing the game than experienced players do. They won’t be jumping into heroic raiding or m+ dungeons right away.

[@Vizzient]

That's fair. I guess that's what I'm doing most of the time so then anyone I get into the game obviously wants to be able to join me. But any new player is just so far from being able to do like 15+ content it's nuts. No amount of guides they use will replace those years of experience. However maybe someone new just going in on their own wouldn't experience this frustration. Thanks for watching!!

[@ccfreakMetal]

It is pretty easy to fix, they have taken a baby step. But they really have to take the systems, the gameplay, story, no pressure, look back and take in wat works. Connect with the community, ignite the passion. But it will never happen. Bliz has ben cannibalized

[@Vizzient]

Yeah small positive steps have been taken at least but they could realistically do more. Hopeful but not expecting... Thanks for watching!!

[@brentsteven4944]

im guessing they are going to do the same thing they did at the end of shadowlands? where they made all the raids rotate on what gives the true item level of the patch to make it so you can do them all throughout the patch? they should kust do that all the time every patch not just the last fucking one, and dont even rotate them make it so i can do all the raids every week for the same item level stuff if i want to

[@Vizzient]

Agreed, it's a cool system but could probably be implemented a tad sooner.

[@hermit44]

The bloat needs to be cut down. We have so much gear that doesn't serve any purpose other than Tmog, I believe it can be cut out of the game. Just give us different types of armor pieces in multiple color variants, and the Tmog issue will be solved I believe...

[@Vizzient]

GW2 style kind of?

[@hermit44]

@Vizzient yeah it works in GW2. It might as well in Wow...

[@xha8509]

Agreed and I think looking at the points you mentioned is the reason why people Play classic.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah some people just want that simplicity and I totally get it! Thanks for watching :)

[@patrickkelly1595]

Great video with solid points

[@Vizzient]

I appreciate it friend! Thanks for watching :)

[@Warzol]

gonna be real with ya chief. the only way to make the game "not bloated" is by making a entirely new game... but then you'd piss off all the people that have wasted their time and money into this first mmo game blizzard has done. it's not like PSO2 where the stuff you bought in standard goes into NGS the new version of PSO2. now if they did something like that it'd be interesting however most of the stuff you can get in any game has already been a "fomo" or was originally fomo but brought back as a twitch drop and that did piss off a lot of people off that did spend the time or money on getting the thing by working for it but for new players they just straight up get it for free without effort. i'm 50/50 on that, i do feel salty a bit but at the same time new players should be welcomed. I don't see a way or how they could make the game not so bloated when the game been around for like almost 20 years (soon). That's the problem of being a game dev is if you don't think a head on these things, it will become a problem or they did see it but refuse to change some of it cause it would ruin other parts of the game, kinda like a chain effect. so we'll see how they pull this off if they can that is.

[@Vizzient]

Yeah, no choices they can make to correct it that won't piss off a lot of people lol. Thanks for watching!!

[@joshuaadkins9820]

does raid content scale based off players in raid i dont get how you can say if you remove someone because there the bottom 3 in dps I mean youd now be missing out on their meager DPS when the boss has the same amount of HP. If the dps are doing 500k dps at peak efficiency but the bottom 3 dps are doing 100k each if you kick them your now missing out on 300k dps that your just simply losing. Meaning your gonna take longer which gives more time for other people to fuck up.

[@Vizzient]

Yessir so if you drop one or two it will scale. Even if you don't continue with less people you can easily get more in LFG in minutes either way.

[@joshuaadkins9820]

@@Vizzientthat would make sense then.

[@fizola88]

The titles and mounts and bloat in general is so true, I just really stick to one opr two mounts, my character uses no title (how can I choose from 50+) and one or two cool transmogs. All the stuff to do weekly just made a game second work, I dont want to work, I want to play to have fun and relax FROM work... I generally switched to ESO, cause I still love MMOs, but WoW becomes too much of ...work. In ESO I just enjoy walking around, doing quests and discovering things. Sense of wonder WoW had till WotLK (and sort of in Pandaria) is long gone...

[@Vizzient]

Yeah gotta collect hundreds of mounts to use the same ground and flying ones every time XD bloat is just like a WoW suffering from success problem in the end. Thanks for watching!!

[@gFDSjvKbndKJcbdjv]

don't like seasons. If people need to catch up to fully geared players, drop more than 15 conquest for winning a bg. The rewards (pvp specifically) are just so minimal, and the grind doesn't make what you do get feel more rewarding. The barrier of entry is so high and every time gear goes up it gets a little higher. I think I'd like if it went back to 1 or 2 raid difficulties so there's less disparity and seasonal turnover in ilvl. I don't feel that the game is hard but I'm definitely biased. Coming back for Dragonland, it did however take ages to get accustomed to having 15 addons and setting them all up. I would never recommend someone who isn't familiar with mmos pick up the game. I think bloat is fine, there's always something to learn or collect, but at what point is enough enough? Why always new systems and continent? Is the world not big enough that new stories can't emerge from within? (old world revamp) I like the gearing upgrade system and its getting better in 10.2, but surely that'll be gone in a year. Also, not a fan of the crafting in DF. Lastly, super subjective, but I don't like the art style of DF. Everything looks washed out and dull. 10.2 is gonna be cool though and I actually want to see where the story is going to go for the first time this expansion.

[@Vizzient]

That's a good point about too many difficulty levels. I think that really influences new gear feeling kinda worthless and unimpressive in the end. Again no way that's going to go back to before though... Thanks for watching!!

[@christmasham4312]

Your staying everything on my mind about this game ❤ I been playing for 10 years I just got 3k io on sub it was such a hard road I decided to try out enh shammy and I started laughing 😂 I do love it though but yes this game is so bloated and over complicated

[@Vizzient]

I love this game! It's just a little to big for it's britches these days I guess you could say 😂 glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching!

[@kalanilarsen6112]

It's extremely bloated in every meaning of the word. Time spent feels wasted especially when it is rarely fun or exciting. Retail feels like a checklist rather than a game and people are realizing it.

[@Vizzient]

That inevitable 20 year bloat isn't hard to feel!

[@TheGUARDIANOFFOR]

game is extreme grind BOORING look like gothcha so many systems over each other. Characters feel week extremely. Leveling is totali bronken ......... Im feel im working hard just to keep my power not to die to basic mobs..... Rotations well not problem im not raiding since cata ...... to much grind for no reward

[@Vizzient]

Or the rewards you do get are invalidated after a few months which never feels good... thanks for watching:)

[@mimir6549]

The game is just too old, most people don't want to play a game milked this long. It's time for WoW 2.

[@Vizzient]

Really does feel like we are at the point of just needing a reset! Thanks for watching :)

[@magnas1636]

oh please no wow2 the whole thing is milked to the very end and they would fall back into old habits easily, they should make something new like World of Starcraft or World of Overwatch and deliever the PVE content promised for OW2 that way, that they cut for BS reasons.

[@mimir6549]

@@magnas1636 nah, most players prefer the WoW setting and theme. Not everyone wants a overwatch setting MMO 🤮

[@davidrivera5720]

i don't like how casters not use their weapons, why would my mage have a staff if its going to be stuck in my back, for me it kills the fantasy

[@Vizzient]

I guess that actually would be nice now that you mention it. Kind of silly they don't. Thanks for watching:)

[@magnas1636]

yeah never got this in all these years, if you use a wand you pew pew around a little but that is irrelevant damage. And for example ESO does it pretty well with staffs and casters.

[@Nightstalker314]

Genuine question: What are the weekly chores you "have to do"? There is nothing right now in the game that you have to do that makes you fall behind other than any kind of gear upgrade if you care about getting better gear and that happens at your own pace. This argument comes across as desperately trying to make a point without naming any specifics. Do you need to max out the reputation for anything? How long does it take to max out the weekly profession stuff? Maybe 30 minutes if you go all out on every source for knowledge points. If the profession system needs one thing it's better tooltips to reflect where you gain your skillpoints for certain crafts and how much the material quality affects the crafting quality.

[@LOLKRIILOL]

Even the story is seasonal, annoying how everything in the last expansion you took 2 years to conquer is completely irrelevant...oh no giant sword stuck in the desert, saving the planet from bleeding to death and an old god terrorizing everyone..no one cares anymore....went to the land of the dead and saved every single person ever from being tortured and abused by a weird puppet guy...neat. Now the dragons need your help to clean up their old home and to keep their old high school buddies from messing up the renovations..and it wont matter because in a year they'll have another pointless thing for us to pretend to care about. And the hero with 1000 titles and mounts and an armory of weapons that could make the US want to invade azeroth looking for WMD's, well sorry bud you don't matter to anyone in the game, sure they'll call you Champion, but then they'll forget you.

[@Vizzient]

Ever further than that the seasons within the same xpac sometimes even feel disconnected. It feels almost like the story is being made up as they go rather than writing it all and slowly unveiling it thanks for watching!!

[@ExelArts]

the rts had far better lore once World of Warcraft came out metzen kept retconning lore/story bits more and more wows lore is now a incoherent mess. The current developers are just making it worse science fiction crap where added to a once great fantasy game: evolution one thing about the evolution issue is when they change night elven lore it was completely pointless because it did nothing to move the story forward, they couldve left night elves alone and nothing would change. magic constructs became robots then later thanks to current devs all titans and all life are based on robots space ships shouldve made the dreanei come by portal too. so much more too. The RTS lore is what made me love warcraft, The World of Warcraft mmo lore made me hate wow

[@Upright1337]

Retail cant be fixed. And they have turned Classic into another Retail.

[@Vizzient]

Sadly I believe you may be right

[@3ssenti4L]

Hard reset.

[@Vizzient]

Crack a few eggs to make an omelet

[@Nightstalker314]

Here's a tip on how to kill your playerbase and your overall appeal: RESET THE GAME Look at OW2 ruining the game for many long term OW(1) players, look at the shutdown of the chinese WoW (all Blizzard game) servers. Nobody liked that and you want to do this? And here's a specific tip for you: stop parroting Asmongold. I don't get the impression that these are your own arguments.

[@Vizzient]

I mean the reset is basically WoW classic and that's killing it. My points come earlier the reset is just a passing thought.

[@Nightstalker314]

@@VizzientHere's what you do in Classic WoW: You raidlog. If you do not fall into this mode the game is dead for you within a few weeks. Hardcore WoW is still fresh and in the Honeymoon period but I don't see the major hype going past 2-3 months.

[@codipherus66]

The combat is boring af. The graphics are dated af. Fix that.

[@OGNord]

I want WoW 2, clean slate. I started 2007 January. Right when TBC was kicking off and I only play classic now. I left after legion and tried BFA intro quest and just exited when done with it. It’s not wow anymore.

[@Vizzient]

Definitely very different game these days!

[@wackywarrior001]

So so so true. How,do,guys like these hit the nail on the head and blizzard is clueless

[@Vizzient]

Weird thing is they probably do get it. They just would have to work way harder to reduce bloat and all that than to just keep pushing forward with what has worked before. Sad but trueeee. Thanks for watching!!