World of Warships - Captain's Academy #32 - Captains and Captain Skills

[@Drewscipher]

Chase, no idea how old you are man but it was very insightful and wise of you to change your teaching methodology from "Do X because I know what I'm talking about" to a "Let me teach you how to think about skills" I take a similar approach when I teach accountants how to program in excel for work productivity. Specific coding is not as important as breaking down your problem / task into steps and isolating what the variables are.

[@ghostslinger3148]

Hi could you make a video for the current 2017-2018 skill set, it seems to be a bit different now .

[@michaelmederos3293]

If you have manual control for your secondary, does the guns on the opposite broad side engage targets of opportunity

[@bobdown4805]

Thanks for this episode of captains academy, I like playing the Cruiser class I have used your tips and especially how to use torps. All your tips work as I have tried them in battle. Keep up the good work.

[@TheAlex1121]

Does anyone know the math behind how water effects shells' penetration and trajectory?

[@WhackedMaki2]

Hey Chase, do you think it's possible for you to link an album in the description of a picture of your T10 Captains for every nation? That would give good references for people, and if they changed captain skills it'd be relatively quick to update as compared to making a whole new video about it.

[@Brian-WolfmanJack99]

You're such a nerd! Thank you for putting all the work into these videos! They really help :)

[@docc7545]

Hey Chase for your remaining points on cruisers have you ever thought about the fighter skill to give it a better chance against CV fighters of a higher tier? I haven't been brave enough to try it myself but a tier 8 cruiser using it and your own AA against 9 and 10 cv planes might last a bit longer or even survive to take on the bombers.

[@MammothPaige]

Great info as always. Keep them coming.

[@653323895]

hey chase. i know this is a dumb question but how do you buy a captian... i have a samson and i cant figure out were you go to get one

[@jordanlewis3790]

will you do a follow up with the new skills?

[@chanbulgin]

Hi iChase - on your Tashkent example, you selected two 4point skills and no 5 point skills. Any reason why you skipped discussing the 5th tier for DDs, and specifically, concealment expert?

[@thebadchat2079]

chanbulgin You fire constantly in a Russian dd and your guns give you a higher detection range flare up than other dds. The tier four skills just do so much more for your ship than having ce

[@ultimatu2130]

I just got the Langley yesterday and I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and I was wondering if you could do a video about how to play carriers as best as possible

[@cobrazax]

which cruisers need concealment and which are better with other skills instead?

[@Gyphon]

Good vid and informative as always Chase... Gyphon *salute*

[@MiekSr]

Thanks for the guide. Would love to see a t10 captain skill guide for clan battles.

[@MartinAleksanderAksnes]

Hi! Question: What happen if for example you fully retrained a captain that was originally in a Myogi in a Kongo but you want that Captain back again in the Myogi? You need to retrain him again for the Myogi? thanks a lot :)

[@wamakima5004]

Yes. You retrain when switching ships no matter if you going up or down a tier. Only exception is premium ships.

[@tonkatoytruck]

Can someone explain what happens when you redistribute points? How is it done?

[@samusaran11]

What 5 or skill would you recommend for the Soviet DD as you never covered them in the video.

[@Toadfish7]

Concealment most likely

[@frankczw]

def not concealment. you don't get concealment for soviet DD because they get concealment penalty. instead of getting concealment, get demo expert after aft.

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

u dont get a tier 5 skill on a RU DD there is no need just get more tier 4 skills

[@lolderlolly]

When you're in a Khabarovsk there's no need for a 5 Point skill, you will be better off with 3x 4 Point skills. AFT is an absolute must have and you should definitely get it first, then get either DE or SE next. Comes down to personal preference though. I went for SE as Second 4 Point skill because, unlike with Cruisers and Battleships, +4000 Hit points is quite a lot. It buffs my Khabarovsk's Hit Points to ~27000 which is A LOT for a DD, especially considering Khabarovsk has 50mm of Armour. Having a 3x 4 Point skill Captain on your Khabarovsk buffs the ship to a point where it is ridiculously powerful.

[@glrider100]

Chase, I have a question. Let's say your ship is 500 XP away from going to the next tier. And the captain is 1000 points from his next skill point. You go out and battle, and get 501 XP points. So now you can move up a tier ship. So now here's the question. Which would be better, get the new ship, and move the captain over immediately, or battle more, get the remaining 499 points for the captain, and THEN move him to the new ship? (Assuming of course, not using gold to mitigate the training costs)

[@ofi1238]

+iChaseGaming Wait, premium ship retrains the captain? I need to check that again. Last time I tried I believe the captain gains captain exp but not to the retraining pool and instead to the normal pool.

[@pyrowarhorse9738]

Ya it works great. For example I take my Jap BB Captain and retrain him in a Yubari since I usually need to grind credits anyway when moving up a tier. So you don't even need to use the same type of premium ship to retrain...unlike WoT

[@MozzaBurger88]

Yep it does retrain (but doesn't add skill points until fully retrained). I love my Tirpitz and Scharnhorst since they can retrain both my Cruiser and upcoming BB captain without penalty and without feeling off place since I'm basically using the exact same build (BFT/AFT, SI, EM, etc...) Where they'll differ is manual secondaries for BB and probably concealment for the CA once I get there but still it won't really screw my premiums to put the cruiser captain in since the secondaries aren't that amazing on the Tirpitz and concealment isn't a bad skill... Actually it'll give me the opportunity to see how it affects BB playstyle :)

[@fobiostg6818]

If i remember correctly there's a hard limit in captain skill points around 18-19 points or so ... I maxed my Fletcher captain and now it shows 99 million exps to next skill point :)

[@Zeka_SCCC]

Chase which 4 point skill would you get on the Mahan, Demolition Expert or Survivability Expert. I'm kinda stuck on this choice so what would u pick and why? Heres my reasoning: Demo Expert is kinda a no-brainer, you can figure why that one is good. But unfortunately i do not posses a 15-point captain just yet. Without Concealment Expert, the Mahan has a detection range of 7.7km, which is quite, whats the word, painful, when you get spotted. So Survivalbility Expert withh give an extra 200 HP or so, which in turn helps u stay alive longer. hbu?

[@Toadfish7]

Demo

[@Zeka_SCCC]

Harrison Fisher Demo is a good skill. Mahan has a pretty decent fire chance on its own, and the Demo Expert will just make it borderline ridiculous. But my question here is why you'd pick Demo. What does demo have that makes it just that little bit better?

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

SE increases ur durability in matches and vs other DDs while demo increases ur overall damage output so its just personal preference and how u play it

[@fafniroth]

To contest caps, SE. To farm damage on BBs, DE. I ran the former.

[@Kelkuza]

In my Mahan I run Demo expert. I used to run AFT (off topic, sorry) but found the rainbow not worth it. Survivability Expert is something I would either not get (the extra HP isn't as worth it as you may think) or I would get it if I loved my Mahan and had a 19 point captain in it. I feel like the only time SE is useful is either on Russian DD (they already have the most HP, widening the gap makes it really hard to beat one in a US DD) or as a throwaway skill. My two cents.

[@wowfan532]

Great video. I have 18pt Iowa captain so this was very helpful.

[@nambr9]

chase, can we expect videos regarding ships for ranked season5?

[@singularity_josh8063]

So I just got the Colorado and I should move my New Mexico captain over and retrain him? Then what do I do with the Colorado captain?

[@etteiperdnaxela]

I just do not know what kind of captain skills to take for high tier (t9-t10) german bbs. Should I focus more on secondaries or aa or stealth?

[@zocki5]

Secondaries, my friend. Secondaries. ;)

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

its all personal preference but the general rule is to buff stuff thats already good on the ship

[@raf74hawk12]

I actually feel like demo expert is even more useful on ships like the German cruisers. They do their best damage when shooting AP, and should be using that the vast majority of the time. But when you find yourself shooting at angled BBs at long range, good luck with AP. And with the garbage default fire chance, you won't do well with fire either. But if you get demo expert, that fire chance goes up by a greater percentage than on cruisers with a good default chance.

[@thebadchat2079]

Either way the fire chance is going up by 3%

[@raf74hawk12]

True, but a going from say 11 to 14 is a greater percentage increase (27%) than going from 17 to 20 (17%). The point behind this is that even if you loved to spam HE in BBs, it would be almost pointless to get demo expert since you already have such a high chance of fire. As your base chance goes up you get a diminishing return for that 3% increase.

[@thebadchat2079]

It also becomes more effective the faster the guns fire, on most cruisers and destroyers it is a nice option to have.

[@raf74hawk12]

yup

[@zorororonoa3663]

Hi ichase wich captain skills to german bb t10 please ?

[@donovanstevens9872]

Hi, I've asked this before in other places but never really gotten a clear answer, I figure Ichase's viewers would probably know better than most others though. Do American cruisers really have a role or a place in the game at this point? They were supposed to have good AA and AP but it seems like German cruisers are better suited for it. I know the Des Moines and the Cleveland are good ships, but all in all is the line worth it? Thanks.

[@egilsaerman8769]

well, i had the fortune of being last one left with a baltimore vs 2 CVs. i was in a nagato, and i think i took under 10k dmg from both of them, while capping 2 zones. so that thing has insane AA. but really, no. US cruisers are underperforming

[@frankzhang9160]

Hi chase, great video! Also a quick question, when retraining, your skill efficiency will be halved like you have mentioned in the video. It will be easy to understand for skills like basic firing training since they have a specific number, but what about skills like last stand that have no numbers? Will that kind of skill be just totally useless when retraining?

[@CRPsupreme]

from my experience, Last Stand with the -50% will make being hit in the rudder or engine less hindering. So it will feel you are inbetween LS and no LS. :)

[@frankzhang9160]

Well, during retraining LS does not seem to work at all

[@Kelkuza]

That's how it works. Every skill with numbers works at half effectiveness during retraining, anything that is a single effect (Like Situational Awareness before it became default or LS as you mention) will have zero effect until retraining is complete. It made playing DD's with untrained Captains a humongous bitch at higher tiers because you'd never know when you're spotted.

[@mrx5840]

Downloaded the game today, got ships however I can't find the captain on the flag.....any ideas??? Is it a bug or what......also can't see upgrades.....

[@guitarrlp6969]

can I take my captain from my kongo or fuso and put him on my yamonto? i don't really want to use my fuso captn cos i love the fuso but he got lots more skills than kongo. i assume i will have to get another captn. the kongo i just sell it if use that captn. don't hav yamonto yet but it will be kinda soon. ty

[@cobrazax]

with RU DDs i will definitly take survivability expert as the last skill to complete 18 points. 3 tier 4 skills are amazing on those.

[@cyphi474]

By IJN cruisers, i would say AFC is still better choice to counter your lack in AA over DE where you got solid chance anyway. Its matter of choice, but you can do solid work against planes with AA setup. Not great, but you get(with module) to 4,4km range which isnt that bad. About IFA, i tested it back in CBT and with good results. Question is if its worth, because as cruiser you shouldnt move on straight line longer than few seconds and therefore you dont need it. It can help, or it can force you turn out of cover/broadside to other ships for no reason. I would say as additional skill maybe, but for IJN cruisers are probably torps more usefull.

[@filipenunes716]

They gave more ammo to US CVs to make them better at a fighter setup but than give them no real option at tier 2 captain skills, since US CV with fighter setup are like 2/0/2 for mid tier

[@HKG5sentsp]

did someone noticed that iChase keep saying he only have 4 points left when he actually have 5 point in his Tashkent captain?

[@lladdirnaes3111]

For ordinary players 18 points is pretty much the max since the 19th skill point takes something like 999999999 cpt xp

[@Ser_Kuro]

how about aircarft carriers?

[@danielshipman5226]

Hello iChase...same Daniel from the Saturday stream. I wasn't 100% clear with what I meant by getting the 4th row captain skill for your AA guns of over 85mm...I didn't mean for it to replace Advanced Firing training. I meant get it as the second 4th row skill. I do not have an IOWA yet, but since the IOWA class battleships were my favorite ships growing up, I will have one one day. Say you have a 19 point captain on your IOWA. You go Basic Firing Training, Expert Marksman, Vigilence/Superintendent...either one works, Advanced Firing training, Concealment Expert, and then you come back to get the skill for your large caliber AA guns. If you combine that with AA Guns Modification Two...your 5 inch AA guns now have a range of over 7km, and they do double the damage they used to...on top of your 40s and 20s now having a 40% range increase. You still have the other 5 modules or upgrades to get, and now you have decent AA to say the least. Your feedback is welcome for a young player. A good young player, but a young player none the less.

[@themythicalfire809]

wohoo oh yea what do you think of the t3 konig

[@thebadchat2079]

*Kaiser

[@Kelkuza]

Nassau. Kaiser is tier 4. Konig is tier 5. Sorry, I don't meant to be rude. *Edit: Do you mean the Konig Albert? I can't remember if that's tier 3 or 4, if you mean that then sorry.

[@themythicalfire809]

yes the konig albert

[@loul604]

Hey anyone would dogfighting expert work for 20% on the Saipan if you for example encountered a ranger since your fighters are 2 tiers higher???

[@wamakima5004]

It is useless on saipan but there is not really good t3 skill for her.

[@wiggumesquilax9480]

Dogfighting Expert buffs lower tiered planes, meaning that it's almost exclusively useful _against_ a Saipan, never by her. Anyone planning on keeping their Ranger may find decent use from Dogfighting, though not if they're running strike. Wouldn't bother taking Dogfighting in a Hiryu. It's too situational compared to Torpedo Acceleration, a skill that helps in every match.

[@keir1748]

I got DE on my rule the waves captain before hearing that HE is being removed on the RN CLs

[@MechanisedChaos]

I'm nearing my 4th skill on my Nurnberg captain and I was curious, is demolition expert a good idea?

[@ichasegaming]

Yeah, demo works, AFT works too, but I think with how bad German HE is, demo can probably help

[@fobiostg6818]

As they made the sixth sense free fro everyone the 1-point captain is not worth the 10k credits for every new line of ships. I would argue that the 25 dubloons would be much better choice from tier 3 onwards

[@adamsapun5814]

Ichase why have you said that when you take first 5 skills you have only 3 points left, in your tree captains have 4 points left (together 19 points)

[@thebadchat2079]

The gap between a 19 point captain and a 18 point captain is huge 999999 exp I think. Most people won't get this so this is done off a 18 point captain.

[@adamsapun5814]

Thanks :)

[@nottoday3817]

Well, dogfighting expert is going to be most usefull in Ranked Battles I suppose. I have seena lot of Hiryus getting anihilated by Saipans last Season

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

That assumes that the next ranked season will be tier 7 ships again.

[@nottoday3817]

Doosh Bagg Well, any tier it would be, it is going to be Usefull. I only hope I won't see any full strike carriers this season

[@Neeyogames]

vigilance is not good. it gives you at most 1 second of extra time to dodge torpedoes that you do not know are comming. In a battleship this is not enough time to ever dodge the damage.

[@nambr9]

its great for ships sitting in a smoke... like usn dds...

[@cobrazax]

yea its useful, but it seems more smoke is better :P

[@nambr9]

+cobrazax many times i didnt use all of premium smoke+super int, so i took vigilance. suits me fine with prem. smoke

[@cobrazax]

i dont use prem consumables, i need every credit. i hope they allow us to buy a lot of prem consumables so we can buy on discount and store them for later use, like the depot and store on WoT. then it might actually be cheap enough to be worth it. right now i buy upgrades on discount so when i sell the ship, its a full refund. its the most cost effective way.

[@nambr9]

i dont feel 22.5k credits is that much.

[@awayforlong]

What about US cruisers? Demo expert doesn't seem as useful since their HE isn't as good as IJN ships, and the US AP is better.

[@nambr9]

cleveland benefits from the fast rate of fire. i have a full aa build (aa mod, bft, aft) and de. it works just fine.... i wish i had longer range tho ;)

[@awayforlong]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. High tier US cruisers, tier 8 to 10. The New Orleans and Baltimore have some of the worst performance per game stats in the game now. AA isn't really worth going for since carriers are quite rare. Playing HE spam vs IJN cruisers does not usually end well too. AP can be made ineffective against any captain with a brain.

[@panntera3083]

thank you

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

Hey chase ... you might find it anoying but. There is a captai nskil lrework coming this year. Again :P So yo uwill have t odo this video again in the near future.

[@chieftug]

how the hell did you get 19 capt skills I've only ever got 15

[@tonyzhu80]

Chase, why are you always talking about 18 points Captains?

[@swanky_yuropean7514]

because the 19th point takes 999.999xp to get. which is rather impossible.

[@tonyzhu80]

Nolynox Oh, ok...

[@Magnamuz]

"sursur"vivability XD

[@MatruCB]

I dont get it ichase. What is the point of taking concealment on Iowa? You are the tank on your team, you dont want to be concealed longer then the cruisers on your team. In my opinion Jack of all trades is superior not only for the individual players, But also for their teams.

[@thebadchat2079]

It just gives you options, the Iowa isn't a full tank of a battleship. The tanking battleship is more reserved for the German and certain IJN ships. I'm not saying it can't be done but I would rather be in a German bb or some of the IJN bbs.

[@MatruCB]

What options would that be, apart from letting your team tank damage for you? Sure it can be useful in very specific situations, but Jack of all trades always is effective. I really dont see the point

[@thebadchat2079]

Mattias True It lets you relocate if you come under heavy fire, due to its blistering speed you can get out of there and help your team by staying alive

[@ThisOLmaan]

⚓WAIT A MINUTE MAN, YOU SAID "HOW TO TRANSFER CAPTAINS" TO OTHER SHIPS, 2:22 AND YOU TOTALLY WENT OFF COURSE, ICHASEGAMING, PLEASE STAY ON COURSE. SO I ASK HOW DO YOU TRANSFER A CAPTAIN??? YOU NEVER SHOWED HOW LOL...👏🏼🤔⚓

[@catanstudio2397]

hej @iChaseGaming I found forum post about rework of captain skills and I think it is a really great suggestion. Please look at it and tell me what you think about it: forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/61428-full-captain-skill-tree-suggestion-poll/

[@catanstudio2397]

Also if you agree or even if you just think it is a step into a right direction please make a video about it and post in this forum threath so that wargaming will consider changing the current skill tree. If there will be enough of us, who want a change, there will be a change. Really please make a separate video about this rework of captain skill tree PLEASE :) Love your vids, keep the good work

[@bebebo1281]

I love this idea, that actually give us more options and there are no more no brainer skills :)

[@kopazwashere]

too much BB-advantaged skill. IE, dispersion expert, shorter reload time, which will buff BB's ability to shotgun people furthermore. I was expecting some kind of skill for high tier ships other than BB to partially heal non-citadel damage and overpens/fires/flooding, by around 5~20% for durability. Survability expert skill: the rate of HP pool increase should be uniformative (everyone should get same percentage buff), by few percent (say 1.75% or 2%) per tier. this skill should add more HP to ship section pool, not hull; otherwise it might turn high tier battles into a zombie. also, what the first and second reply said on topic. anybody with 15-pts captain can pad stats on lowtier, and current SHITTY MM can't put 15 pts captains with other 15 pts captains, and WG will probably (if ever) never add it. apart from fact, most potato scrub userbase seems to hate longer MM time for some reason, because they think this game is a joke and potato shit CVs should be able to match up with unicum CVs, ultimately driving team into torpedo clickbait by enemy CV (see lowtier CV match). quality post, though overexaggerated use of cpt skills. captain skills are fine as is. if you are getting HE spammed in your BB, go behind an island and invis fire your fatass BB shell without being detected. you deserve to die if you sail into open water with 0 plan on how to mitigate/hide from incoming fire. (protip: STOP FIRING FOR 20 SECONDS FOR INVISIBILITY). thanks for reading a long post, if anybody read my feedback.

[@kopazwashere]

+Kopa Hitlerious IGN name: KopaZ, NA server. you're welcome to throw me feedbacks if you wish to. great game in atago btw, chase.

[@catanstudio2397]

I disagree with your arguments @Kopa Hitlerious! He moved strong BB skills like Basics of survivability to 2 or even 3 row, therefore BBs will have to decide whether to take Basics of survivability, Dispersion expert or Dispersion camuflage. Also Dispersion expert and shorter reload time can benefit CAs too. If there is such a problem that CAs are underpowerd, you can also make so that shorter reload is -10% for CAs and only -5% for BBs. He also did not gave clear stats about each specific skill, but rather he gave a wide window of options and said that stats should be determined by further testing! You are afraid of sealclubers having 15 point captain? But they are doing it right now! Also the current version of skill tree is stupid, because you have a lot of no brainer skills, that you are forced to take in order to be competative! He wants to make a skill tree where you can spec your captain by your own preferences and where there are different options and choises!

[@nambr9]

am i the only one who has dedicated captains for all the ships?

[@TeamRetroWorld]

I also have one for every ship. only ships that I don't is the Donghorst and Konigsberg, I just swap one between the two.

[@Lemmiatem78]

Anyone who takes Incoming Fire Alert lacks basic situational awareness and instead has to lose out on a more useful skill to make up for it. Sad really, but they are easily identified and countered.

[@cobrazax]

for cruisers its the most useful skill on T2, and it makes u an impossible target unless u r going to melle. many BB salvos all miss, even when i show broadside LOL. u seem like an easy target but when they shoot u, u turn and slow down immediately and they NEVER touch u, over and over again. works against many enemies that shoot u even from different angles, invisible ships that are behind cover, and in a cruiser u can use that info to better use. information is always the most important thing, just like detection alert is useful.

[@Oxedizer]

Hey Chase... Can you spoon feed me please regarding the American ships please :)

[@mattsw104]

I hate just having captains... wish we had crew.

[@trules777]

Like a chief engineer and those guys?

[@marcl.1346]

You know why that would never happen, right?

[@JEilonwyn]

No, why would that never happen?

[@mattsw104]

Because kids these days don't like depth in their games, and if it takes longer than 30 seconds to set up your skills these ADD raddled kids will to go to the next game? Seriously, even WoT's crew mechanics were better.

[@marcl.1346]

J_Eilonwy Because many ships have 800+ crew and giving every crew member a skill tree or face/name and WG is never going to integrate a crew member that has no use or no particular skills. Besides ships with smaller crew would have an advantage. I could go on and on but your comments is toally not thought through and basically immensely moronic.

[@komraderylo9353]

was gonna get first, but was worried about senpai's health so crap... second, wait, that means I'm the first loser. Crap.

[@Dragonboltsftw]

First

[@cood22]

Nah, the previous videos, with skills per class per nation were much more useful. Consider uploading just pictures of skills for particular types.

[@delta720728]

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[@KuunoScar]

Somebody sends me backup, I am drown in the data I need to translate. QvQ

[@lanslater]

Woah wtf slow it down ffs! I dont get you cos your racing through your explanations and slurring not even finishing saying your words have another listen to yourself from minute 8

[@brianwalk108]

if youre sooo good at this game why not give us some useful information ?