World of Warships - Cruising for a Bruising

[@Flambass]

Tromp is a very weird concept for a DD, it doesn't seem to have anything really strong about it, but if you manage to use everything it offers successfully it can be quite a menace. I don't think it's going to be up everyone's valley so be careful about picking this one up, but here you can at least see it IS possible to do good in it and I WAS having a good and fun time since its release. Thanks to old man for sharing it ofc

[@TheBiggerrich]

“GOT EM BOYS!!”

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

So was the island intentional, or was it a lucky accident?

[@johanmolendijk9811]

@@5peciesunkn0wn A good old Notser. Whatever happened to him, anyway?

[@gurk_the_magnificent9008]

3:34 - “the one whose name I can’t remember. It’ll pop into my head three minutes from now” 6:47 - “Friesland! That was it” Nicely done old man 😂

[@andyreid7274]

Soooooo, he not always crap?

[@Xiphactinus]

@@andyreid7274 no, he's never made a single commentary error

[@skillnotfound7354]

@@andyreid7274 what do you mean, he's never made a single mistake, he's all mighty jingles after all

[@andyreid7274]

@@skillnotfound7354 I see triple shifts in the salt mine in my future.

[@martinalbur4470]

BRING BACK ARMORED WARFARE!!!

[@anonnymousperson]

Flambass showing why he's called the Quackenmaster

[@kentlindal5422]

He used to be Quackenapprentice.

[@VerrueckterKerl85]

he‘s just lucky most of the time. 🤷‍♂️ don‘t get me wrong, he‘s a decent player but mostly he‘s just a max range sniper or a camper, if the rest of the team doesnt fit that stupid gameplay, he‘s fckd like every other solo player.

[@Bonde7280]

@@VerrueckterKerl85 Yeah i guess that's why he wins 70% of his games. Potato logic right here.

[@VerrueckterKerl85]

@@Bonde7280 he plays a lot of games in a division! not an effort to have more than 60% WR then. and he hasn‘t 70% WR. ;)

[@ford890a]

@@VerrueckterKerl85 having watched him for 4 years this is total bs.

[@raptor4916]

4:00 Look at the Atlanta class originally designated as a "destroyer leader" [Edit: Actually a flotilla leader which really isnt a ship class per se but more like a role to be fulfilled.] later reclassified [retasked actually] as an Anti-Air Light Cruiser (CLAA)[also never an official USN hull number designation] and given a CL number [always had a CL hull number] for another example.[Almost everything is wrong here mea culpa, the atlanta-class are still really nice ships] Big thanks to Ushio01 for calling me out, i blame fatigue it was 0000 where i live when this came out.

[@Ushio01]

Do you have a source on them being designated a destroyer leader? I can find them classed as flotilla leaders and using small cruisers to lead a flotilla of destroyers is pretty normal. The 1930 London naval treaty included a limit of 1880 tonnes for a destroyer any larger and it was a cruiser and the 1936 second London naval treaty continued that. The WW2 Fletcher class was the first US destroyer class with a standard displacement over 1880 tonnes at 2083 tonnes. Which at first seems wrong as the Somer class was a little longer but the beam of the Fletcher was a whole metre wider which over 115 meters of length adds the 200 extra tonnes of standard displacement.

[@raptor4916]

@@Ushio01 oops i made a boo-boo i crossed flotilla leader with destroyer leader in my head, i edited the top comment to fix my mistake.

[@Kackpuh]

" a ship class per se but more like a role to be fulfilled" A ship class is exactly that, a role the ship is supposed to fulfil on the battlefield (or outside of it).

[@prinzalbatross9526]

@@Kackpuh not quite. They can sometimes be pretty straight forward but there is a difference. Class tends to be determined by the characteristics of a ship, which in turn is influenced by desired role or function. A light cruiser can is a hull classification, but the role can vary. For instance the Omaha class cruisers and the Brooklyn or Cleveland class. All are classified as light cruiser but functions are different.

[@imjashingyou3461]

I love how World of Warships has redefined speed from history from being fast for a battleship and cruiser at 33 knots to ungodly slow.

[@InservioLetum]

You should try the murican battleships. Some of those are so slow they don't come with anchors.

[@petedardis606]

I remember watching Flambass driving his Gearing for Omni in KoTS back in the day, on the Atlantic map. He got torped into oblivion early in the game and Omni was out. I saw him on Twitch a short while later, playing Subnautica, getting his mind off his sad loss. He was diving deep in the PRAWN suit, so I got on the chat and asked him if he was looking for his Gearing, which got a good - natured laugh out of him. Always a fun show with Flambass. 😂

[@plutoidrepublic2765]

perfect

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

There's also Leone, the T6 Italian "destroyer". While Italy *did* reclassify the Leone class as regular destroyers, they were originally procured as "esploratori", AKA "scout cruisers", which were commonly envisioned as flotilla leaders for destroyers. Or the T10 Italian DD, whatever her name was, the "Capitani Romani" thing. Officially classed as a light cruiser, effectively a large destroyer.

[@tomriley5790]

The Riga got taken out right in the last second too. Saw this on Flambass's channel it was definitely a good game - his title was better though :-)!

[@zackakai5173]

I don't know if Jingles even realized the Ohio killed the Riga with like two seconds left 🤣

[@laszlokaestner5766]

If you watch Flambass' KZbin replay of this I'm not sure that he realizes either.

[@Tearnofear]

it wasn't necessary to win though

[@chaosengine4597]

@@laszlokaestner5766 he did

[@laszlokaestner5766]

@@chaosengine4597 Did he? Did I just do a Jingles? ooops.

[@chaosengine4597]

@@laszlokaestner5766 nah, Flambino did see the last kill is what I'm saying

[@hawkthorn33]

Have not played WoWs, in a long time now, (cv rework) but it is still nice to watch someone who is good at what they do.

[@hawkeye5955]

I find it much more entertaining watching the replays submitted to Jingles than playing the game. I haven't played the game since the CV rework either; not worth the frustration.

[@Spreadie]

The Tromp is definitely a meme ship in the making, but it looks like fun. I have enough coal saved so I'll be grabbing it in the next few days, when it pops up in the armoury... well, as soon as my resources coupon drops - no sense in wasting ~ 60k coal. Perfect Jingles vid - getting loads of things wrong and still as entertaining as hell.

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

I don't know if I'll be able to wait until the coupon arrives, I'm itching to unlock her as soon as she becomes available xD

[@Spreadie]

@@HeliophobicRiverman Coupon drop date is the same for everyone, right? Mine drops in around three and half days. I'd pay the full amount in coal if I was a bit closer to getting Bourgogne but, even with a coupon, I don't have enough steel for that beast.

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

@@Spreadie I'll have to check, for me it used to be around the 19th, but I think it has been brought forward a bit. Thanks for pointing that out, I might be able to restrain myself depending on when the coupons actually drop 😄

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

@@Spreadie I just checked, same time until the coupons drop for me. I think I'll survive waiting 😁

[@christophersmith9074]

I’m simple I see a jingles vid I click play then like quacken

[@serbreadboard8578]

Actually Jingles, @16:18 the stealth of the Lightning is amazing. Fully specced it's 5.5km. It's identical concealment to the premium Cossack

[@jannegrey]

Very good play by Flambass and quite adrenaline fueled ending. Not from the fight but from the danger.

[@fullmetalpoitato5190]

Looks like the strength of this ship is Flambass himself. His skill level is high enough to keep that steady stream of shells, torps and airstrikes coming in at just the right time to melt ships.

[@chrisbingley]

3:55 A good example of the line being blurred between a light cruiser and a destroyer can be best exemplified by HMS Bristol. It has the displacement of a cruiser, but was commissioned as a destroyer.

[@TheArmedPoet]

I watched this game live and I suggested that he send it to Jingles... very glad that he listened this was down to the wire!

[@mykeybarbee2587]

I play this on the PS4 platform, after almost 2 years of on and off play, I am finally about to unlock the Alaska. As an Alaskan resident, I want to represent.

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

Always a great video when Flambass is here!

[@jwilliams703]

Nothing better then the first sip of coffee and a Jingles vid in the morning.

[@Tearnofear]

Always a joy to watch that Flam-Guy play a DD =) "iirc he complimented Roon and Stalingrad"

[@warcrimebob]

The Tromp is the greatest ship in the world. No other ship has been as great as the Tromp. covfefe

[@hawkeye5955]

The folks at Faux News were fleeing the sinking ship.

[@kieranmccloy4716]

Thats the quickest I've came....to a jingles video...wait that still didn't sound right

[@lcarus42]

The game stopped working for me over a year ago. Constant lag spikes and ping spikes over 300ms, getting disconnected every single match. The game just stopped working for me. But I still click these videos the second I see it. Great content, keep it up!

[@ttrevino167]

It was me and the enemy teams ship, we were the last 2 and my team was in the lead. I remember a video from jingles that all you have to do is run. The enemy ship tried to bait me into attacking but I just pulled away trying to get distance and we won on points. No need to win harder

[@flanker27k61]

Best Tromp commercial so far. Congrats

[@brennanodea1878]

Sometimes I watch mighty jingles videos, and he does waffle on a bit. It's like if John Madden rambled on about a QBs shirt size or how many time a Kicker brushed his teeth before the game, or list all the stadium staff members who worked in painting the field. It's like, "hush up and commentate the game!!"

[@wesleykrol7226]

As a dutchman hearing that dutch of the announcers is so funny 🤣

[@johanmolendijk9811]

"In de lucht" said no Dutch pilot ever.

[@freetolook3727]

Destroyer that has a bomber group of planes? Yup, fantasy/science fiction sure works here.

[@rickwiggins283]

A few times a week I watch Flambass' stream up until he selects a super-ship, often the Eagle, then I tune out for a couple days.

[@projshopuk9670]

Take care Mr jingles you have and do help me through some rough times

[@biff647019]

Dammit Jingles, I only watch your warship videos and one or two here or there like once every few weeks and you just had to highlight the only video I watched other than yours two days ago.

[@emberfist8347]

Actually Jingles the Kuma is a light crusier as that is what is designed to be. Light cruisers in the IJN are also named after rivers and the Kuma follows that naming convetion.

[@488Knight]

It's always nice to know that you've seen a video that will be coming to The Mighty Jingles.

[@micheljavert5923]

A cruiser without a citadel? Man, that reminds of that time WG made an entire CL line of destroyers *with* citadels. Hahahah, what fun! Especially since the line has been wildly popular.

[@johnweir9447]

As an American, I appreciate that you used "the wal-mart version" as a euphemism for the Salem's radar...

[@neb1006]

Tromp is such a good dd, I love the air strike, slapping people everywhere with it Also the f Sherman has 3 guns

[@BushesDid911]

"I can't be sure which of the four destroyers his team sunk." Jingles, we watched him kill the Halland lol. Never change 😂

[@TheNecromancer6666]

Actually Jingles, normal German Destroyers, like Type 1936A, had 15cm guns as well. And they were Destroyers. Just massively overgunned ones. While ships like the Elbing, are actually based on a light scout cruiser proposal, the so called "Spähkreuzer 1938" (Reconnessaince Cruiser 1938) proposal.

[@stumpythedwarf8712]

Thanks Jingles and Flambass. Good times.

[@piotrk3829]

Finally, perfect video length, my Polish homies will know.

[@mgbrv8]

Can we please have some cold water!!🙏

[@Dukenukem]

4:10 meclenburg shooting at only tracers of AA and hitting :D the response of Flambas was great at that time

[@richarddyson4380]

He did a Notser Jingles, no matter how you dress it up. Another great WoW presenter, just like the Sailing Robin…. Who just posted a couple of new videos in the last couple of weeks.

[@andrewpulda7969]

Actually Jingles, those early KoTS were T8 and Flambass was in a Benson not a a T10 Gearing and yes he was part of the mighty OMNI clan at the time, but do go on... lol Never change my friend!

[@ParanoidCarrot]

i would not be surprised if we get missile ships in wows, that work similarly to the dutch bomber thingy

[@jaywerner8415]

Im kinda counting on it honestly. It would be something WG would do, depends on if they push into the 60s or 70s with their ships though, can't think of any 1950s Missile boats. Maybe some Anti ship rockets that work similar torpedos? As for the missiles, id imagine they would maybe be "line of sight" weapons unless they REALLY want to go full arcade and just make it an AOE blast.

[@ronaldthompson4989]

The Type 1936As are destroyers through and through, differing from the base model almost exclusively in the guns. The tier 10 on the heavy gun DD line on the other hand is a straight up scout (aka light) cruiser.

[@jackcrawford6078]

It was the best of times (Jingles vid with Flambass), It was the worst of times (I watched this match live). Rewatched it anyway for the Gnomentary.

[@greynorthstar]

Well even if Flambass would die, the team nailed the Riga in the last couple seconds, to it was a sure win

[@kyedavis1899]

3:35 I'll pop into my head 3 minutes from now. 6:45 Friesland.

[@ianwalker3922]

Go on there mreye I love this game but I'm still learning the game I've got qwite a few ships but there's lots to learn thanx for your video keep them coming and teach us how to play well

[@chipwhitely1490]

Good game, AWESOME NARRATOR.

[@Sira_Kackavalj]

Gronnigen may lack torpedoes.But is still an amazing gunboat

[@rya3190]

Lol, I know gunboat is correct, but it makes me imagine it floating down the Amazon or in the heart of Africa...

[@timbakker98]

Good to see wargaming finally put in a Dutch ship of which jingles can pronounce the name😉

[@emberfist8347]

I think the reason the Tromp is called a DD is that unlike other Tier X cruisers in this game, it is an interwar design from 1937 so they didn't want players to think it could a candle to post-war designs like the Des Moines.

[@InservioLetum]

Ohhh, like the Patrie? WHAHAHAHAAAAA

[@jeromethiel4323]

The Donald Tromp?!? Making light cruisers great again! ^-^

[@DropB3arZ]

The Tromp was actually Flotilla Leader, hence they can technically call it a Destroyer

[@PedanticGaming]

Ah Dutch ships, the experts at hiding behind islands and spamming bombers at you.

[@fnglert]

"This is a cruiser, isn't it" - technically, maybe? It was designed as a (very) light cruiser, a destroyer leader. But the armor on it is like 38mm over the machinery spaces. If this had been implemented as a cruiser, even Caledon would look at it in pity and seem incredibly heavily armored in comparison. So, implement it as destroyer WG did.

[@mynameiswritinwater]

WoWs has so many light cruisers masquerading as DDs, usually to their advantage .... Starting with the Russian Okhotnik at tier V , the Leningrads at Tier VII to the Kabarovsk, Elbing (and now the Tromp) at tier X.. which would not be so much of a problem if the DDs had the actual Citadels they had in real life ingame as well^^

[@emberfist8347]

@@mynameiswritinwater If they had citadels they wouldn't be playable.

[@imjashingyou3461]

@mynameiswritinwater the Palo Emilio is a never finished ship from a light cruiser class.

[@EdHunter55]

No the dutch called it a light cruiser for political reasons. I mean its smaller or comparable in size to the Tashkent and the Akizuki. her sistership was even outfitted with 10 10cm guns just like the Harugumo. So in all but name it was a destroyer. Role, Size, armament, cost etc... I mean the smallest cruiser from around the same time period that I can find is the dido class and it has literally twice the displacement. XD

[@asavita8745]

I've been watching your videos for about 2+ years now and just recently started playing WoWs. A few of my buddies who have been playing for a while, divisioned with me at my highest tier (5). I kept doing really good with 100kish damage every game in a Nicholas destroyer. They currently are under the assumption that i have been playing for a while and just haven't told them when in reality it's just because I've watched your WoW vids for so long 😂😂

[@Tearnofear]

i mean, Clemson and Nicolas are most-likely the best DDs on these Tier. But still, you figured it out fast than :)

[@asavita8745]

@@Tearnofear thanks 😉

[@russward2612]

This game brings an axiom to mind, a good driver in an average car will usually beat an average driver in a good car. If a good driver is in a good car, chances are they're going to win. Scritches and treats to the fluffy Ladies of Caer Jingles.🐈🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛👑✌️🖖

[@Pliskkenn]

Flambass and tactical beaching, name a more iconic duo?

[@jakegross9428]

Acktually Jingles, the Lightning can have its detection range down to 5.5 km

[@sinceRENEss]

just what the game needed.. DDs with airtstrikes -.- now we have it all

[@jjdends2648]

love you jingles

[@Markkedi]

Awesome holiday morning :)

[@chloehennessey6813]

Jingles. I got the Montana in Blitz and I like it.

[@luke_3_113]

Watched this before, but always good to see it with Jingles take. A significant issue with this ship, is it doesn't seem to be rewarded like others.... After everything Flambass did, his base XP was pretty low, I think this is partially due to airstrikes not scoring you as highly as direct shell and torp hits.

[@shiron1158]

Pretty sure the Z-23 is and was historically a true and true destroyer Jingles.

[@markfrank3307]

Good morning Mighty Jangles

[@vangurtgpvanheeringen3552]

Drear All Mighty overlord, the add I got was crap but I survived and ready for the next one

[@MrNicoJac]

To be fair, everything here in the Netherlands is smol. (except for the guys, lol) So it would make sense for us to build a light cruiser and the rest of the world saying "whoa weird destroyer you got there mate"

[@TheNecromancer6666]

Destroyers Leaders were, by french philosophy for example, large Destroyers. By Italian philosophy they were more like very light cruisers.

[@GunmadMadman]

Good way to start the work day

[@ConciseOxford100]

The Forrest Sherman has *3* 127mm guns, Jingles.

[@jasonparker61119]

Have your ever taken a tour on the Wisconsin in Norfolk Admiral Jingles?

[@CatOfSchroedinger]

I remember watching this replay over at Flambass'es channel. There is still something to be said about great games and the absolute necessity to send them to your channel. Somehow, it's still like being knighted or getting a fake lordship by Established Titles or better ;-) What ? Too soon ?

[@jamesbuckner4791]

Atlanta's are a good case for the DDL's that ended up as a CL

[@joshuapfaff5558]

I am consulting the gnome overlord with one question. (Not related to wows0. I have just downloaded world of tanks and am asking for your opinion. What is the best nation for a noob, like me, to start with?

[@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084]

Marvelous Qwackenmaster😂!!!!!

[@andrewjackson5127]

What are you talking about Jingles? Waffling and old man rambling? Hell, that's why I like your Channel. I mean it's a good Channel I mean it's not a great Channel and it's got some downsides that are pretty bad well they're not that bad I mean overall it's kind of but it's a great channel at times except when it's not a great channel, but it's it's okay. It's not crap. I mean it's great. LOL

[@gemmumma8354]

LOL, I JUST watched Flam's youtube vid of this very game.

[@glenr7393]

However, Jingles, he didn't see the island!

[@matko350]

Just wondering why this haven't ended on game of throws since there was few out there

[@MrNutt_]

Sir we're outnumbered and surrounded! Those poor bastards.

[@ChristopherSloane]

This game just keeps getting more fictional by the month. Here you have an Aircraft carrier and destroyer all in one. He can spew unlimited squadrons of aircraft that do massive damage while dropping torps and firing HE round every few seconds. The aircraft were mostly left intact before they hitthe target so they are very AA resilient. It's OP and kind of stupid because it's highly fictional.

[@jaywerner8415]

"Just look at the Nicolas at tier 5" Nice to know my Favorite WoWS Content Creator also loves the Nicolas, Its not a grate DD with only 4 127mm guns, 4 sets of 3 torps (2 sets on each side) with only 5.5km Range and it get ONE Flak cloud (as does the Farragut and the Mahan, dispite having MUTIPLE multipurpose guns. I really hate WG sometimes), and a reasonable detection range. Like all US dds she even gets the choice of Engine Boost or Def AA (DONT YE DARE LAUGH!, ye who do not know the power of Buffed Flak clouds.) If you know how to use her she will treat you well and take your damage numbers to places you wouldn't think possible (torpedo ambushes obviously), and she makes a good escort for your teammates.

[@virginiascurti5036]

I already watched this on his youtube channel.

[@leshinar]

ah yes. three minutes in, and Jingles.. Sherman has THREE guns, not two ;D

[@josryg]

A little later lightning is very stealthy (5,5)

[@raymondrogers9580]

Pretty good at almost everything get a gering

[@DogWalkerBill]

I see you mostly from my Facebook feed.

[@raddker1941]

21:37 video length cannot Miss that

[@testdriver3146]

That was indeed a master class on the seas.

[@pvdneste]

Well actualy... "Friesland" and "Groningen" are 2 adjacent provinces in the North of the Netherland. Culturaly very similar but... different. Quackenmaster is a Dutch player so to hear 🙂

[@skullcowboy9609]

The other thing about using an island to stop is that being next to an island plays Mary Hobb with the aiming lock on.

[@joeschmalhofer6109]

I wonder what the battle would look like if it was 10 Carriers on each side...... like the intro video...

[@Deathrising99]

-psa- to keep up with expectations jingles has reused the same title for the video for a third time. That’s 3 years in a row if your curious.

[@ddjay1363]

The Lightning has excellent stealth, 5.5km.

[@saltefan5925]

Speaking of light cruisers, the Tromp actually has better gun DPM than the Takahashi... yeah...