World of Warships - Loser

[@egileigengrau6637]

Here a rough transcript of chat, up to Zulu's last comment at 5:48, with all german sentences translated as good as possible. Unsurprisingly, grammar is rather atrocious at times. [MKW]Zulu2scroot: TO THE LOSERS IN THE GREEN TEAM [MKW]Zulu2scroot: LET US LOOSE [MKW]Zulu2scroot: or else this manipulated shit doesn't make sense [KHARE]_xjohnnex_: brilliant attitude [MKW]Zulu2scroot: four dd [OP]Moosealoob: ?? English? [FLDP]kainzii: spanish ? [MKW]Zulu2scroot: where everyone can stand 3. torpedo [KHARE]_xjohnnex_: speak german you …. [SOK]usainboat92: cualquiera [OP]Moosealoob: American? [FLDP]kainzii: jewish ? [MKW]Zulu2scroot: whoever created this shitpile of planes should on occasion [KHARE]_xjohnnex_: greek-orthodox? [MKW]Zulu2scroot: still played carriers [FLDP]kainzii: roman catholic? [MKW]Zulu2scroot: with this shit you can't fly Immelmann turn [MKW]Zulu2scroot: not even the germans could build bb hitting at 18km [SDW]FortangF95: WTF CV [MKW]Zulu2scroot: bb driving 60 again [OP]Moosealoob: cried in chat at the start....has a 24% win rate... [MKW]Zulu2scroot: hitting behind the mountain [MKW]Zulu2scroot: and the own ki [MKW]Zulu2scroot: let's be quiet regarding those apes [MKW]Zulu2scroot: of german assholes [MKW]Zulu2scroot: only capable of manipulating great games [MKW]Zulu2scroot: and then beeing upset because of hackers I can't help but think to remember the name Zulu2scroot to be featured in an older one of jingles' videos. Same game, same reasone to be noticed. Does it ring any bells with anyone else or is it just me?

[@TheLesserWeevil]

Thanks for the translation, but I'm still not sure what he's on about.

[@markcostello5120]

I didn't think incoherent was a language.

[@Benderkekekekekeke]

You're right. He is on The Great Flambino vid.

[@callHardmoor]

Proposed changes: Lass(t) uns verleieren = Let's lose (to avoid that it sounds like a command) wo jeder 3. Torpedo(s) abkann = where everyone can withstand 3 torpedos und die eigen(e) ki = and the own AI

[@arnoldwardenaar127]

Now that you mention it.... I actually can, and I also remember the savage beating Jingles have him in that video as well... A bit like in this video🤣

[@Kar4ever3]

A potato who tries is worth more than a unicum who doesn't.

[@darkrhino3206]

Agree 100%

[@Tclans]

So true!

[@bobmartin9918]

Thanks for saying this. I am one of these potatoes.

[@57thorns]

An average player (within the center 33% or 50% of players, depending on definition) is worth more than a bad player (definitely single digit worst player) that does nothing.

[@Micharus]

@@bobmartin9918 Me too Bob. However, even a potato can have a really good day ;)

[@FinlayDaG33k]

"The result of the battle is being manipulated" "yes... by you... the carrier that just suicided for no reason..."

[@spacedreamer9055]

... and therefore increased the likelyhood of us winning... XD

[@landochabod7]

@@spacedreamer9055 I'm pretty sure that was meant ironically. No matter how bad your CV is, you'd still rather have her in the game than not, for the spotting if nothing else.

[@noahf738]

@buffalo wt yeah I did the math. Without him they would have had about 2 point higher win percent

[@Thermalions]

Jingles: "You might remember what was arguably the worst player in World of Tanks. I featured him twice" Me: "Hang on, I don't remember being featured by Jingles"

[@durgan5668]

lol

[@doomboygammer6009]

NGL, I've had games where I could've been a red player on a jingles video and would've made the normal red players look smart

[@randolphphillips3104]

Was thinking the same thing. LOL.

[@grandadmiralraeder9608]

@@doomboygammer6009 and me. I have a 51% wr but im still pretty bad

[@littlekong7685]

@@doomboygammer6009 Yeah, some games you just blunder into a bad spot and feel like an absolute idiot later once you realize what you did.

[@martinlaver007]

Some say the CV player is so dense that light actually bends around him...

[@artruisjoew5473]

thats a function of mass/energy rather than density

[@gfr9109]

@@artruisjoew5473 And mass is a function of density and volume, so there's a positive relation between density and mass.

[@kieran3507]

@@artruisjoew5473 it was also just a joke not a paper published in the scientific journal.

[@MrCreamster20]

Jokes aside where's the waterless hole to the bottom of the ocean sucking in all ships and islands within a 1000km radius??

[@zoecornish]

Einstern would be proud of that comment rofl nice one

[@jaywerner8415]

OK, THAT is offically the BIGGEST memes in world of warships history, "Sir we sank the entire enemy fleet" and yet....they still win.

[@karthus006]

Imagine if that happened during World War 2...oh wait.

[@LackeysLack]

@@karthus006 Except they missed those three accursed carriers. OP ships be OP OPing. And the subs.

[@rooki3gunn3r40]

If i was in that game and died very early then see a victory report while I'm in port and to see a win with 0 ships I'd be extremely confused 😕.

[@ShawFujikawa]

They really need to get rid of the idiotic time extension. Make 20 minutes actually 20 minutes or make it explicit that games are actually a hair over 20 mins. The outcome at least worked out favourably in this particular video as the green team did have more points when time ‘expired’, but it isn’t consistent. I’ve had games where we were barely ahead when the time hit zero... and then the game kept on going for another 5 fucking seconds, letting the enemy overtake us in the overtime to steal an undeserved win. It’s the same thing in WoT and it’s completely unfun.

[@gamebotsonline]

@@ShawFujikawa It’s been a long time since I’ve played, but I recall WG games extends the timer every time a player is destroyed. Always been that way.

[@haraldhonk4650]

In case of the Richthofen: "Thats not stat shaming, that's animal research!" - A wise potato

[@desolater010]

Flamu

[@s.31.l50]

I grant the MVR the title of Sea Schraeder

[@neometallX]

Unfair Carrier, Kemp Ocean?

[@arkadeepkundu4729]

Admiral von Schrader

[@sirxamner]

Let us savour how appropriate it is to link the unfair plane to a carrier player. Hmmm. Yes. Perfection.

[@elliottmcnear8516]

@@neometallX nah it’s probably unfair carrier he kemp island

[@Zerknautscher]

Maybe even Great Sea Schraeder. Or just a Grade: C Schraeder? Hmm.

[@Camooses]

And this is why, my favorite insult for when people rage quit like this is , "And nothing of value was lost."

[@brianj.841]

The potato wanted a glass of whine with his pity-party while serenaded by the world's smallest violin playing a dirge.

[@kyneticist]

Imagine a not-too-distant future where AI backed apps, leveraging 'big data' about our lives, tell people their expected chances at succeeding or failing at various things - exams, making friends, matching with a partner, suffering an illness or tragedy... edit: Imagine that information somehow being made public.

[@InternetEntity]

Ever seen Psycho-Pass? Yeah, it's anime, which counts most people out. And a particularly dark and gory one at that.

[@57thorns]

We are there already. Apart from the information being public about everyone. Of course, while predictions like there are useful, they are only useful if you know how to use them. So, there is a 90% that candidate A will be right for the job going by the data, wile candidate B will be right for the job by only 80%, which one should you hire? Candidate A shows up for the interview in a smelly T-shirt and dirty jeans, because they know their stats are better than B. B on the other hand makes an effort. I know who will get the job. because B clearly want to make up for their deficiencies, while A will just sit back and do their bare minimum. In time, B will improve and become better than A.

[@tokul76]

Minority report. Imagine police making decisions based on it.

[@FluffyDragon]

Never tell me the odds

[@Forestmarko]

Black Mirror pretty much took that idea several times... scary to say the least

[@ASB117]

XVM & Matchmaking Monitor don't take into account the Hawethorne Effect - as soon as someone is aware of the experiment, the experiment becomes invalid. As soon as players are aware of their chances, the data becomes invalid because their play style changes as a result of knowing the data.

[@Biggles266]

Yep, I know mine did. I don't use it any more -- having to reinstall the mod after each update and reengage the site every 2 or 4 weeks is too much of a hassle for this filthy casual -- but when I did, I steered myself towards the less skilled players and kept myself the hell away from the very skilled players. Unfortunately, this never really worked out as all it did was give me a crisis of confidence every time someone with a better colour rating than me showed up. It made me panic, where as not knowing, you try your luck and you take your chances.

[@stuartthurstan]

On the other hand I find it invaluable to know which are the most dangerous players on the enemy team. That way I can pick my fights more carefully.

[@skewy21]

As a fellow german I am sorry for the inconveniences you the viewer or TheMightyJingles he may have caused you. Because even I could just understand maybe 50% of his nonsense he wrote in teamchat and damaged around 90% of my braincells, but still I know for a fact that the Manfred von Richthofen is still a very good ship.

[@kaltaron1284]

Yeah, Google translate did well. His grammar was off at times and he made some typos but that's not surprising in chat. He also complained about BBs hitting at 18 km which he claims the Germans couldn't do and that they can shoot behind mountains or something.

[@Pincer88]

That's typical that you as a fellow German feel you have to make excuses. As a neighbour (Dutch) I feel I have to convey to you, that many Dutch love working with Germans, going on holidays in Germany and enjoy the company of German friends. Trust me when I say: there are people out there who can think beyond the sterotypes. And well, whiners are among even the bst of people and there's really no excuse for that, other than a lack of self reflection or character. They seem to be an extended family that cross many borders and aren't specifically German. A heartfelt cheers from the Netherlands. Glück auf!

[@kennkoala]

@@Pincer88 Poms invented whining, made more noise than a 747.

[@EvoraGT430]

​@@kennkoala The Aussies then perfected it.

[@m000Theevilcow]

is he a german? might be Austrian, Swiss or even a seriously handicapped bot trolling the game pretending to be german, it really doesn't matter there are idiots in every country and it will be so as long as they aren´t taxed ;))))

[@TheKobiDror]

The irony in this: his winrate is now better 🤣

[@riquelmeone]

@Tobias Time Yeah, I find that crazy as well, just winning or losing shouldn't impact base xp that heavily. Should instead be added as a modifier afterwards.

[@Thermalions]

Yes 7% better in that CV, from just one game.

[@oloneus]

"To the Losers in the green team" . "let us loose" . "This manipulated shit makes no sense" - "nice attitude" Google translate was good so far xD

[@Unkn0wnIdiot]

And after that it was indeed not Google translate failing but the guy's grammar. I actually don't get what he's trying to say in half his messages.

[@jvccr7533]

I'm gonna be that Hans. *lose

[@fipsvonfipsenstein6704]

With this amount of misspellings, it must be a fourth grader who just missed his online class.

[@dieterjung4810]

sorry for this example of an bad player - your translation is good - and the IQ of this player must be under zero but not all of german players are like this one - thank god

[@maxmustermann146]

Just Jingles said: Let's loose ourselves... what the player wrote was: Let's loose this game... but thats the only correction that came to my mind :D

[@adamthethird4753]

"This is your brain...." "This is your brain on XVM" XVM...not even once.

[@SwordsmanRyan]

“I learned about it from you!”

[@secuter]

Back when I played WOT, it was quite helpful. As Jingles pointed out, it often did allow me to understand my opponent better. A took more chances with a poor player and was a lot more careful with a good player. That said, I never gave up a fight regardless of how little chance the XVM calculated for me - at some point I even disabled that feature and only kept the part where the players were color-graded as well as last known positions etc.

[@Battlemage15]

The GK and the Yamato at the end be like "Hey, I've seen enough Mighty Jingles vids to know what to do in this situation! We can still win! RETREAT!"

[@seanironfist8887]

Hearing Jingles laugh always makes my day, knowing he has fun doing these videos.

[@martinlaver007]

Can we all stop to take a moment and appreciate Moosaloob’s Karma points please.

[@tumppu1975]

IIRC flamu has several thousand points of positive karma on his eu account. So, I'd say that you can easily farm karma, if you are good enough, EVEN if you are a toxic potato.

[@Pepega_Ch]

Jesus Christ, he's just too fucking toxic

[@martinlaver007]

@@tumppu1975 or look at this way, guy who doesn’t have 100,000 subscribers gets a good proportion of karma points compared to one who does 😜

[@Dorkrust]

@@tumppu1975 Guy is fed his karma by his viewers, don't get my wrong I enjoy Flolo and personally think he's the best WoWs streamer to watch if you want to get better. Just yeah, padded karma isn't likely what Moosealoob has.

[@FMeyer-zg5mg]

@@tumppu1975 i played basicly only vermont since cpt rework til 2 weeks ago, and i lost +80 karma, if you hit 60k ish salvos you get report by the target, if it is a close game the team reports you because you cant teleport from A to C, i literally lost almost 100 points this year by having great games and being top of scoreboard most of the time, even on my 330k dmg record with kraken i had reports haha, wows karma just mirrors how many idiots or good people you met online, dont give this silly counter any value, cheers.

[@darkflesh3232]

i wonder how did Wargaming react to this Horror scenario? did they call a emergency meeting to discuss the fact that a CV died first? and did they figure out what buff CV need to make sure it doesnt happen again?

[@siriusczech]

remove a W key option? :D

[@kaltaron1284]

Cloaking device for the first 10 minutes? Sounds only fair.

[@not2tired]

@@kaltaron1284 Any damage to a CV within the first 19:58 is reflected 10-fold to the lightest remaining enemy ship

[@kaltaron1284]

@@not2tired That leaves a 2 seconds window of opportunity. Sounds quite generous.

[@theAessaya]

"This is not stat shaming, this is animal research." -- one particular ex-CC

[@TheGrandexeno]

You forgot "fucking" before "animal research" XD

[@theAessaya]

@@TheGrandexeno I was trying to keep it SFW :)

[@TheGrandexeno]

@@theAessaya it's already not sfw, too much Stat shaming in the video ;(

[@Halo1111Halo]

im curious where it originally came from, is there any clips of it around?

[@TheGrandexeno]

@@Halo1111Halo it's from an ooold stream iirc. Prolly worth asking in Flamu's disc channel

[@evelyngravatt3198]

"Unfair Seas, he camp smok"

[@HolgerDK2]

Fucking beautiful!

[@guidobolke5618]

Don't forget that he was able to drop the wr of 11 other players down to 24% in over 40 games. That's an extraordinary feat!

[@cinjonsmythe6318]

ooooof

[@RedXlV]

Well given how influential CVs are, having your team's CV suicide at the very start of the battle is going to cause your team to lose most of the time.

[@guidobolke5618]

@@RedXlV Yes, but there are 11 players left. And I am not sure how influential a cv really is. It's more annoying and destroying other people's games. Those 11 lose some spotting and some damage

[@blusafe1]

@@guidobolke5618 Depends on the team. CV can be nothing or a game-breaker. CV is OP because if you had a skill difference between the two players then it's painfully apparent. If there is a skill difference between two other ships, the overall effect on the game is not so influential.

[@Dorkrust]

That would be true if he played with the same other players every game of those 40 games, but he didn't, so he didn't. He did definitely bring a whole lot of players WR down in 76% of the games he played in MVR, but it would be fractions of % points for each of them given how many overall games we are talking :). Having said that, I don't want him on my team :P

[@Superuser009]

The thing is, if you run MM and give up if things look bad, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which in turn, distorts the stats MM uses to do what it does and reduces its accuracy. To paraphrase Jingles, you lose 100% of the battles you don't fight and give up on.

[@Enakaji]

I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your videos. Your battle reviews are allways fun and interesting to watch and are one of the main reasons I started playing WoWs last week. Your videos, together with the videos from Flambass and Flamu, really helped giving me a good understanding of the game and of the basic do and don't of the various classes and so far I'm really having a blast. I picked german DDs as my starting tech tree and so far I'm doing pretty well I think. I'm up to tier 6 since yesterday and have a 67% Random Battle Win rate so far, mainly because the infos I got from watching all those battle reports helped me avoid doing many mistakes a rookie would normaly do.

[@speedojamison9268]

As an American, I'm glad I stay up late enough for jingles to upload his videos in the morning

[@jaywerner8415]

same.

[@kurumi394]

Here his videos come up in the afternoon

[@demosearies7591]

Yeah I work overnights on the east coast.. so these are a welcom addition to my last break.

[@christophersmith9074]

same

[@speedojamison9268]

Also whoever already disliked this video, yall about to catch these hands

[@nazamroth8427]

And even so, the guy who suicided at the very start without doing any damage, still got more XP than half the enemy team.

[@57thorns]

The rewards just for winning is a bit too high me thinks. But sometimes if you soak up damage early on that actually gives your team an advantage, and the time used to kill the exp pinjata was definitely time the team could use to get into position and start doing damage to real players.

[@robinpcavery]

More XP than the FDR which nearly won it...

[@misspurdy27288]

IMO winning should have a huge boost to what you already make. IE if you do enough to earn a hundred, winning makes 200. But if you earn 0, you still get zero.

[@tumppu1975]

The xp and credit reward for winning and losing should be separate from the performance. Winners get 500xp/50000creds or whatever and losers 250/25000 (adjusted for tier). Then how you do would give a separate reward based solely on your performance and there you SHOULD be rewarded equally for damage, spotting, tanking, capping, defence etc. Nowadays the rewards seem entirely out of whack and the xp reward that cv received is a good indicator of it.

[@57thorns]

@@tumppu1975 The problem is that you either end up in a situation where you get "too much" reward just for winning even if you are bad, _or_ the game becomes a hunt for experience regardless if you win or lose. It is impossible to have both. Honestly, I think the games (tanks and warships) are pretty decently balanced given that a good performance in a wininng team gets a bigger reward than a mediocre perfomance on the winning team. A bad performance will never get a decen reward in either game.

[@AlanJG178]

“You have to walk the walk before you can talk the talk” - Full Metal Jacket

[@andrewcipriano2890]

Pretty sure the Vampire II is just the HMAS Vampire currently floating about at the maritime museum in Sydney

[@bfrobin446]

Correct. They call it Vampire II because there’s an older HMAS Vampire in the game at tier 3.

[@michel-auf-abwegen76]

Jingles, as a german...your translation is well allright. his german has shortened sentences...and of corse, my english issnt as good as yours...but you understand him.

[@zoecornish]

All hail the mighty Google lol

[@korbell1089]

OMG, didn't even make it through the video before I was laughing so hard, my cat was worried! The ENEMY team was telling the friendlies to report their own CV for suiciding.

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

D11 is an actual ship, she is HMAS Vampire, a Daring class destroyer of the Royal Australian NAVY and is currently a museum ship at Darling harbor maritime museum, Sydney Australia.

[@MrCreamster20]

I like these kind of endings; down to the last second and many win/loss conditions happening at the same time yet the replay shows a win. No allied ships alive yet they win on the buzzer because of points coupled with reasonably smart players trying there best to disengage from a carrier and 2 cruisers. GG to them for a hard fought win.

[@kurumi394]

The title popped up as my professor said the lowest score in my course was a 22 and I got a 26 I feel personally attacked

[@Hassy171717]

Wonder if being on YT while in class has something to do with it?

[@kurumi394]

@@Hassy171717 It was a recorded video lesson but thanks for rubbing it in mate lmao

[@JackG79]

Thank you for this Paul & Rita!! Love to see a good underdog story play out!!!

[@gkgameplaycz]

XVM and win probability - I remember playing and our top tier light tank said "3% win chance fuck you all" and suicided. We won that game.

[@FuelrIce]

I've been in a few matches like that.... ;)

[@Reysan7]

Which is why I didn't use XVM after WoT, as it brings out the worst in players. Best way to win is to coordinate together.

[@plektosgaming]

I had a match like that the other day. I don't run XVM, but it was clear that we were outgunned. The remaining three of us managed to get on the cap and win, with shells flying all around us from the other team's 8 surviving members.

[@keith6706]

@@plektosgaming The problem with people relying on stats is that people don't understand how stats actually work. The old, introductory level example with a coin flip demonstrates this: a fair coin will, over a large enough number of flips, average heads 50% of the time. That doesn't mean that if you get tails on your first flip, you must get heads on the next, or even if you've flipped tails 99 times in a row that the 100th has to be heads. People not understanding this is how casinos make money. Stats like those produced by XVM are predictive over a number of games. If you have a 40% win rate, if you play 10 games you'd expect to win, say, 3 to 5 of them. Those stats don't necessarily tell you anything about a _single_ game. As noted, everyone has seen games where everything works just right, and a team that normally would be expected to have lost utterly curb-stomps the opposition. I don't get to play WoT or WoW very often so I'm a pretty mediocre player, but back in March I was playing a game with my Hellcat. Pretty blah, one kill, some other damage, but then there was just me and the arty against 6, three of them with multiple kills, so not complete potatos. I pulled back into cover overlooking the cap, he was jammed in the corner as far back as he could get. Unlike some arties that would scream at me to go spot, he was the one saying to wait. If they'd rushed us at once, we were screwed. If _two_ had rushed at once, we were screwed. Instead, they came one at a time, so if I needed multiple shots to take out one tank, even if it spotted me there was no one to take advantage. In two and half minutes I killed five of them, for the best result I'd ever had in a game. I should have killed the last one, but I had to come out and to fight him since he knew where I had to be and I fluffed what likely was the kill shot, he killed me, but then the arty nailed him from behind at close range for the win. My arty had only fired two shots in that entire end sequence: the final one, and one earlier when I'd tracked a KV-2 with a fair bit of health and we had to take it out before the next tank showed up. He wasn't interested in farming damage or claiming kills, so he deliberately held fire, even when he had the shot, when it looked like I was handling the tank I was engaging. Even for the last tank, when I had it clearly spotted and it was in one place playing peek-a-boo with me, he held fire and instead moved into position so he had a clear, close range shot into the enemy's ass about two seconds after I bit it. In probably 99 games out of a 100, we'd have lost. Both the arty and I were average players, we were outnumbered and outgunned. But because of the map we were on, the side of the map our cap was on, the way they spaced out their attacks instead of waiting and moving at once, the damage they'd already taken, the fact I'd pumped up the view range on the Hellcat so could see them first, that their artillery didn't try blind-firing the usual spots where we'd likely be (and were) and instead rushed forward for a share in the glory and, probably most importantly, the fact the arty player wanted to win more than he wanted to improve his personal score, we won.

[@anthonyhoward4743]

@@keith6706 Had A few games where team m8s say loose 29% chance and we have won 15-0. Been TK because of my stats a few times. dont get the logic of killing a team m8 and think your win chance will go up. even a ffk player can contribute

[@Opiuth]

I always love when “underdog” doing his best wins! Thx for the replay Jingles, needed it especially today o7 ❤️👍

[@theironlukeve5544]

The Dunning-Kruger window in effect everyone... That carrier player is of a special intellect .

[@travelwell8098]

You know, Jingles.... gotta say.... with all the drama... and the tight game play... this is your best video yet... (from what I've watched over the last 2 years). Great Story!!! Good game.... despite knucklehead.....

[@peterarnold6747]

OH WOW! My old ship. I had a cabin under Yankee turret :)

[@Thirdbase9]

What? A ship that actually existed. I thought that wasn't allowed.

[@scrubsrc4084]

I love watching a 20% team hype themselves up in chat and work at a team to become a steamroller

[@TheGonkDroid]

As long as you give it your best that's all one can do. That's why I stopped using xvm, started having better games once I stopped caring about stats. Especially since recent statistics can very wildly from what's shown. For example my friend's overall stats are like 50% wnr but in the past 1k battles he averages like almost 60%. So you never really know

[@ShawFujikawa]

I don’t think all the communication in the world would get a full team of 20% players to win anything.

[@scrubsrc4084]

@@ShawFujikawa I was in that team, I was in an at2 and the only player not utterly red on xvm

[@Frost_Saber]

@@ShawFujikawa 20% is not 0. its 1 in 5

[@ShawFujikawa]

​@@Frost_Saber That's not how that works. 20% would be their chance to win in Random Battles, with random teammates with random winrates and skill levels. The premise of stacking 15 such players on one team meanwhile is definitely not random.

[@Picolinni]

As far as I understand, my uncle served upon HMAS Vampire II (D11) as a CPO, and a radar tech. One of the few times I have a familial connection to something, and it is in a game I can no longer stomach playing.

[@tacitus6384]

5:17 - 6:29 Time to give the audience motion sickness!

[@humphrey10-88]

Yeh what the fuck is that. WHO PLAYS LIKE THIS. God damn that was annoying

[@ThomasKrKr]

@@humphrey10-88 me : *profusely sweating*

[@Arisudev]

It's called situational awareness... He was inside smoke screen, capping. There might be enemy torps heading his direction

[@humphrey10-88]

@@Arisudev you dont need to zoom in and out every two and a half seconds to have situation awareness.

[@Arisudev]

@@humphrey10-88 considering inside smoke screen most torps will be spotted late, I can say his actions are understandable

[@drakath794]

Gotta love hearing the Grand Admiral Jingles laugh. Always brings a smile to my face.

[@veratisu]

Amazing. Once you remove Zulu from the calculations, his teams odds of success jump to 48.35. Assuming they had a slightly above average player to replace him (55% or so) They almost make 49%. That means that the margin of difference under those circumstances could be equalized by a lucky citadel or poorly timed fire.

[@michaelsmith6420]

Excellent video. Reminds me of the video shown about a year ago of a "confirmed looser" who came out in a Mass (I believe) and proceeded to sink 5 and win the match.

[@acer8123]

Zulu2Scroot after he singlehandedly brings down the class average bellow 50% and killing himself: *Signature look of superiority*

[@tyvernoverlord5363]

I just don’t get that kind of person

[@axilleastsoulas1036]

@@tyvernoverlord5363 Funny thing if he's actually German, his forefathers tried to eliminate such retardation with rather extreme prejudice 'bout 80 years ago

[@tyvernoverlord5363]

@@axilleastsoulas1036 indeed

[@trostorff1]

Man, that match at the end had me as on the edge of my seat as any movie or tv show I've ever watched. Great job by the last two bb's to disengage and try to win on points.

[@dabj9546]

He was actually complaining his planes didn't do this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immelmann_turn Yes. He actually wanted his WoWs planes to do a complex aerial combat and aerobatics maneuver.

[@briancreegan827]

mamy IRL pilots can't do a immelman well. why should the AI pilots do better? If Captain incompitent wants his planes to do Immelmans he should be playing WarThunder or Flight sim.

[@axilleastsoulas1036]

And how would this avail him in any way?

[@iannichols8393]

Thanks Jingles, yet another worthy replay, keep em coming listening to your comments and watching the replays helps make this more interesting to play, and Ive learned how to enjoy it more. Well done.

[@stormshadow_6477]

German is my first language and I had trouble understanding what that *lovely person* said...

[@deltavgaming3447]

a jingles laughter a day makes my depression go away

[@ItsAboutToBeLegendary]

When your team is statistically behind the enemy team by a lot, the best thing to do is to put your man pants on and to fight even harder! This kind of mods should encourage you to play better, not to give up

[@Notmyname1593]

That has been my usual answer to the XVM whiners as well.

[@robertshelley2522]

I don't even play this game but I always watch these videos. Good job jingles on your commentating ability

[@Shoehandler1142]

Who needs sleep when the rear admiral sounds the video alarm

[@elliottmcnear8516]

Hands to viewing stations, hands to viewing stations!

[@olafruiter4604]

Hi there Jingles, have been watching your vids for a little wile now. Apart from the content, which I enjoy and is teaching this novice wow player quite a bit, the thing I like the most about your video's is when you laugh out loud. Puts a smile on my face everytime. Few people with more contagious laughs as you sir. Brilliant!

[@TheAngryPuffin]

Don't care what your WR is, if you're trying and communicating effectively, I can't fault you in-game. Seen plenty of amazing top-table performances by players with deceptively poor stats. The attitude however... most mouthpieces in-game are dreadful (anecdotal but seen it enough times to almost predict it).

[@LittleJohnAB1]

Reminds me of the phrase 'Never Tell Me The Odds'

[@chimpboy12345]

Actually Jingles... a 7% average WR difference between teams means an almost certain defeat. People have done large scale statistical analysis on the MM. 0-3% difference in average WR is reasonable good chance for either team to win. 5-7% is almost always a loss for the worse team. Note that I don't run MMM and I always tryhard. I'm just saying. If the MM wasn't broken there should never be a gap like that between teams.

[@bruceyboi96]

At 4:50 and bouncing with excitement, he’s telling us the tale of the infamous Schrader!

[@angelplays3842]

I've had team mates give my location before to the enemy team, due to not doing what they wanted me to do. When it comes down to gaming in todays world, nothing is shocking anymore. It's just expected to have a twat or two in your team. This however was brilliant to watch :D

[@sgtrpcommand3778]

That guy is the physical manifestation of the Principal Skinner meme "Am I the reason I lose? No it's the team who are wrong!"

[@patrickmundhenk-koch7407]

Next: CV's posting their PayPal link to get donations from their team or the enemy team in the battle chat. Depending on which team pays more, they suicide or not.

[@pinguinposted990]

I should reinstall, create a new account and do exactly that. Regardless of the ship type I play. Even in WoT... But I assume I am not a good enough player that someone really cares. :(

[@sarahsmith840]

I suspect WG will ban you for that, no matter how hard they have to stretch the TOS to do it.

[@connorgramer6334]

@@pinguinposted990 some might, for then you stop being a vessel the enemy team has to worry about.

[@MoA-Reload...]

Slight correction @The Mighty Jingles - THERE IS something like XVM in World of Warships. It's bundled in a particularly popular mod pack that isn't Modstation and almost does the same job. I came across a player that called my WR and PR out right at the start of a game and instructed his team to focus me out. Thing was he called it out really quickly after I'd been spotted and took half his HP so I got curious and did some digging and sure enough, there is an integrated Stats Mod doing the rounds. I installed it to give it a look and what would you know it, it shows WR to the left of the players name and PR to the right right over the sodding ship! They even colour coded the bugger with Red-Green-Blue-Purple because it was such a great addition to WoT and caused no problems what so ever😂 Did manage to test and confirm, simply set your Account to private and hide your stats and the mod can go spin so at least that's something. WG also changed how Private Stats work. You have the option to allow Clan mates to still see it so they aren't hidden in clan section. Look for the check box if you're changing it on the site.

[@raweggs6540]

"Never tell me the odds kid". lol

[@Scarheart76]

An excellent example of a match where you just don't give up. Anything can happen in World of Warships.

[@stiimuli]

That was one hell of an ending to an interesting story O_O

[@PointyHairedJedi]

"Unfair plane" Oh man, that takes me back...

[@paulvamos7319]

It looks like the only looser was the CV player that quit from the start! If you quit, you never win. GG all and good night.

[@SeiyuRavensong]

Very much enjoyed this video. This sentiment is echoed across the many games i play.

[@sirtemeraire1574]

As an Austrian: It's not "let's lose ourselves", it's "let us lose" Translator seemed to have messed up with the word placement because for it to be "let's lose ourselves" it would've to be sth like this in German: " lasst uns uns selbst verlieren" Rest is correct, at least sensewise.

[@tobiasreinhold7642]

"lose" = the opposite of winning "loose" = the opposite of tight

[@sirtemeraire1574]

@@tobiasreinhold7642 uff me, thx

[@lukenukem1164]

That's the biggest Jingles chuckle I've heard in a while 😄

[@Axonteer]

Jingles actually knowing that switzerland speaks German (beside French and italian and "Rätoromanisch") deserves kudos - Most people dont know that or just ... forget about switzerland while they talk about something that is a speciality of the swiss people or nation :D So to that end, dear jingles - as a swiss, i salute you... from the top of the mountain with a SIG 550 in my hand ;-) And yes jingles, his grammar is really bad - typical for a german ragekid i have to say. And that comes from someone with not the best grammar himself :D

[@Matthew10950]

Who doesn't know that Switzerland is heavily german? I would be amazed to meet someone with half a brain that didn't know that. Also, what is ratpromanisch

[@CMDRSweeper]

No no! Switzerland doesn't speak German, they speak switzish, a language based on the famous cheese full of holes! :D Oh and secret bank accounts too!

[@Matthew10950]

@@CMDRSweeper and strict neutrality in the face of nazism

[@holycrusader3336]

That's actually the first video I see from you and I gotta say, I am subscribing for your soothing voice and your amazing laugh! Seriously you make me laugh too.

[@noobflyboyx3301]

My usual greetings from the States, Jingles. Looks like my ruined sleep schedule does me some good these days.

[@JumpOverYourShadow]

Win of the ghost division is a rare but magnificent sight to behold.

[@prospectrontv5518]

Guide to understanding stats of players below 40% - stay away they may torp you 40-48% generally are mostly non-serious players they just wanna have fun or new player trying to learn the game 49-53% who are good but not consistent have times brain farts but generally doing the right thing 54-60% above players those who play around their teams' randomness these guys can adapt no 1 likes to lose but some1 will we all need to be gentlemen about it.

[@ShawFujikawa]

What about above 60%?

[@prospectrontv5518]

@@ShawFujikawa its the last point as i said 60 above

[@Taliyon]

What a rollercoaster! Thanks for the ride!

[@TheMouseMasterYT]

a 7% difference in win rating between teams of 12 players is actually quite huge, from a statistical standpoint. Not that that justifies any of the baby rage. As you stated earlier, you lose 100% (mostly) of the games you don't play, and one of the best ways to lower your own W/L is to simply throw matches. I mean, at least save the bitching till the end of the match ;p

[@genericpersonx333]

Mind, it is interesting that you see quite a number of these matches where there seems to be some major stacking of the odds somehow against one team. Be it all the radar-ships being only on one team or all the players with under 50% win-rates being on one team and all the players on the other averaging over 50% WR, the MM for these MMOs are clearly capable of grossly uneven matching. Really makes one wonder what really is going on behind those closed doors of companies like Wargaming and Gaijin.

[@dominicmcnamara]

Jingles, from the bottom of my heart......THAT WAS RARE GOLD. Thank you.

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Lmao, Schrader. When you said, "Famous World of Tank Player"

[@j.thomasroulain8122]

Excellent video. This was one of the best and most entertaining videos I've seen from you. Thanks much for the upload, Jingles. o7

[@ThraceVega]

Uh oh, better be careful Jingles, might get removed from CC for 'sTaT sHaMiNg' :P

[@hardkur]

so true , also he talk shit about CV its a biggest sin u can do in WG eyes

[@TheGrandexeno]

Uh oh.

[@Fadamor]

2:39 "He hasn't launched any of his squadrons, and he's not going to." Jingles keeps up his string of being wrong: 3:16

[@anonnymousperson]

Does that stat thing look at your win rate in that particular ship? Because if everyone else on his team had 50% win rates, the presence of the carrier with his 24% win rate is enough to drag the teams average win rate down to 47.8%.

[@siriusczech]

You can see it in the end, it does both- avg in playing ships AND avg. per account(s) in general in next collumn

[@EliteGeeks]

I start most matches with " Ok Team Potato, lets try to not fuck up... "

[@Kuolonen]

17:55 "He is out of radar range of the Petropavlosk" *Petro* *at* *8.5km* Damn I heard WG was going to nerf Petro but I didn't think they'd give it a DD radar. That's brutal.

[@Formulka]

it was so sad when he found out he forgot to launch the last torp and had to wait the full reload

[@richard_darwin]

I speak german--his grammar is atrociously bad

[@TheSalamander_]

I have not played world of tanks for 2 years. I have not watched a Mighty Jingles video in two years. Four videos is all it took for me to redownload world of tanks and world of warships >.> Congratulations on being very inspiring good sir.

[@Dynasty0612]

5 views 23 likes Go home KZbin you’re drunk

[@larswhitt1549]

The amount of wisdom in this video... thank you so much for sharing it all including your comments. Should be mandatory watch for all wows players, atleast once a day.

[@jimmyjimjames8498]

You would think that Jingles would know German by now.. yet here we are

[@BringerOfD]

It's always the person who's dragging down the bell curve.

[@wildcraftone]

I always look at the players to see if I somehow got roped into a video for something dumb I've done 😂

[@mjxw]

I live in mortal fear of it, tbh.

[@amisunbalanced7207]

I live for the day Jingles calls me a potato on KZbin.

[@hectormorales4090]

Video: very nice. Commentary: priceless...

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

24% winrate in that CV, and he is complaining about his team being bad? ... Cue the Robert B. Weide music

[@Capitainetim]

I always love to see a full dead team win, it's funny XD

[@reftouswarships6731]

an op cv is bitching about mm lol me:....i expect cvs to be buffed soon

[@countrytownify]

That team score screen is amazing

[@chrisbennett467]

Another amazing video jingles keep up the amazing work. 👍