World of Warships- Tromp First Impressions: All Gimmick & No Bite?

[@javasrevenge7121]

Great that you give attention to a dutch navy ship. My grandfather served on many navy ships before WW2. I am dutch. Thank you for uploading.

[@lightbluewaves5526]

Welke schepen als ik mag vragen?

[@rjdeseijn]

Haha, the former US president in the thumbnail of this video. While actually, Maarten Tromp was an admiral of the Dutch navy in the 17th century fighting along side admiral Michiel de Ruyter against the British and the Spanish.

[@lightbluewaves5526]

Also what makes her unique is that she is so far the only Dutch ship in game that has torps

[@simselmore5625]

I was about to say Groningen but then I realized that Groningen doesn't get torps lol

[@donramax4409]

@@simselmore5625 A configuration was tested on the Friesland class Amsterdam with british mk20e torpedoes, so hopefully we'll see that version in the tech tree one day.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

And here's hope if WG releases USS Salt Lake City (Pensacola class) has torps before the USN removed them.

[@saxonian6634]

Having played it for a couple of days now, I think the guns are a trap. Conceal is really good. Torps are actually really strong, with good reload (if very few) and airstrike can be brutal. I therefore actually find it most fun to play the ship from stealth and rely on torps and airstrikes to effectviely be throwing out damage that doesn't get me spotted whilst leveraging the concealment. With how many ships like to island camp these days, those airstrikes, delivered from stealth, can be really rewarding. Sure, fire the guns when you can get away with it, but trying to play like a Kleber or Khaba just feels like you're playing a bad gunboat, rather than something a little more interesting.

[@notmyrealname8064]

Interesting looking at your review vs the review from PQ. It looks like this goes from a 7/10 to an 8-9/10 if you are good with the airstrike aiming. Also note that you could have taken the airstrike module, which is a substantial buff to the one unique ability of the ship. Overall, it seems like you built and played it as a gunboat, where I think it truly is a unique enough ship to have a totally distinct playstyle. It will be interesting to see if your prediction about not being in competitive holds out as well - I think it looks like it has a huge role if you are consistently good at leading those strikes.

[@NoName-wi8xz]

Yeah it feels like a meme ship, something like yolo emilio

[@MrArkwel]

I had the same feeling watching other KZbinrs. Some of them have massive fun with the airstrikes. One french guy was really good at aiming with it and was using it all the time in addition of torps. He was saying that your torps are your shepherd dogs to guide your ennemies before airstrike them... More an airstrike boat than a gunboat due to the lack of heal, Armor, speed, saturation...

[@TheRealBlackivy5486]

And it actually has ASW dc's ...😏

[@mikeconnor7394]

I used XP & Dubs to get it - My commander is 19 - I did 90K my first game - I really enjoyed playing it - it felt like my Smaland with "airstrikes" its a great fire starter - it is slow in speed I coordinated with others and it worked well - Airstikes are much easier with 10 second lead - I like it - a good "interesting DD" thanks for the review!

[@gameover_477]

Liar. You're a liar and you know it. Tromp is the best ship, it has all the best shells. No other ship has better shells, believe me. It has the best shells and the best speed, you wouldn't believe it. they told me "It's impossible, it's too good!" But it is, folks, it is, and you'll get tired of winning. We're gonna do so much winning, believe me, you're gonna get tired of it. You're gonna say "please, Wargaming, it's too much! We're winning so much with Tromp we can't take it anymore!" But you're gonna keep winning and it's gonna be awesome, and we're gonna build a great torpedo wall, a beautiful wall, with the best torpedoes, and we're gonna make War Thunder pay for it! And we need the wall, because the enemy team isn't sending us their best. They're kill stealers, they're trolls and some, I believe, may be good players. But we can't take them. It's a scam, folks. So we'll build a torpedo wall, the greatest torpedo wall ever.

[@zlpatriot11]

"The oranges of the investigation"-The orange cult leader probably 🤣

[@kingofcastlechaos]

I nearly choked on my breakfast reading this. Perfectly presented.

[@Smenkhaare]

This is spot on stuff 👏 Very good 👍 You have the cadence down very well.

[@jackala2783]

It burns real purty while sinking.

[@jammers195]

Should have a skin where it's orange and has a bad blonde tupe on top

[@zlpatriot11]

I can already see this ship creep into CBs.

[@texas_airways7128]

If it is used in CBs it’ll probably be extremely niche

[@richardchampion4826]

Amazing Dutch CL makes it all the way to tier ten. A tier 4-5 ship is what it is. Oh well that's world of warships.

[@richardcutts196]

According to the WIKI 238k coal. Tromp - Dutch Tier X destroyer. A large destroyer leader armed with 150 mm guns, officially listed as a light cruiser in the Royal Netherlands Navy.

[@princeofkernow9875]

So we got carrier with planes, battleships with plane, cruiser with plane and now dd's with plane.... submarines with planes next? At that point it's going to become a World of Pain

[@firestryche]

Yes. France and Japan had carrier subs in world war 2. Surcouf and I-400 respectively.

[@BlackHearthguard]

@@firestryche I'm expecting both to wind up being premiums.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

I wish Modstation was more like Aslains in regards to being able to get up close to the ship details. I used to think that WG wanted us to stay back a bit due to resolution, but that is not the case. The other cool thing is being able to zoom out and look at the ENTIRE PORT instead of just where the ship is anchored.

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

Makes me wish the Yubari would become a destroyer in the game instead at higher tier since it has the speed and torpedos and also 140 mm guns to make it unique than other IJN DDs.

[@raginasiangaming910]

I find that a lot of players just don't play the Tromp well. It's basically a CL with excellent detectability and should be played as such. However, I see way too many players that want to sit behind an island all game, playing with airstrikes. I play my Tromp in the open water, using my detectability to spot for my BB's and CA's. I use the airstrikes to punish smoke cloud farmers and island campers. Staying in that 10-12km range, the guns are very solid as well. You can't win a gunfight against dedicated gunboat DD's, but you can take them when they are half health or lower with ease. To me, Tromp is all about positioning and spotting in the early game, while using your airstrikes to support your BB's by deterring island/smoke camping. In the mid-game, you start to play more aggressively, hunting opposing DD's with your heavier guns. I also run with a Shimakaze and he'll smoke for me, allowing me to sit back and farm early game and if you get that scenario, you top 100k very easily in this boat.

[@thesleepyweasel3775]

Just picked it up this week for free using the "Festive Tickets" to grab a couple of Santa Containers. I'm enjoying the airstrikes, but hadn't actually looked at the fire chance on them.

[@dzello]

Her only major issues are her anemic depth charges and her anemic anti-air. It is unfortunate because if she had good depth charges, you could run the slot 4 airstrike module and improve them even further to get rid of submarines; and if she had good anti-air, she could fight against planes with her defensive anti-air fire consumable. Her special commander is also especially bad on destroyers because they lack one of his enhanced skills. This skill would be extremely powerful on Tromp, especially if it had better anti-air as I covered.

[@rabidlemming3680]

They have valued the Tromp at over 38,000 dubs, thats more expensive than the Napoli B, in fact it is the most expensive ship for dubs in the entire game. I suspect the discount for free XP is a con, either that or this ship is going to available for close to 400,000 coal.

[@seanmoss9510]

It’s more dubs because you get a 12 point commander instead of the typical 3 pt commander.

[@CORV3TT33]

I think they confirmed it would be normal T10 coal price, so about 240K

[@seanmoss9510]

Once it goes for coal (238k) you will only get a 3 pt commander instead of the 12

[@ALEXANDER1318]

If they removed the torps it could have fit in the tech tree at tier III as a light cruiser, allowing them to remove one of the paper ships (preferably the hideous Celebes) from the line.

[@Cedric8486_1]

I am not a DD main by no means, but she looks fun. gunboat DDs are what I like, so I may go for this ship. someday great review as always

[@sargisshirinyan207]

Giving DFAA to a ship with 3.5km AA is like giving a blind man optical glasses

[@ConcealedWeapon]

Well, most good DD players keep their AA off until they are detected by enemy planes, so, on Tromp you can keep it on all the time and just activate the DFAA when the planes are on you.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

As I understand it, IF you buy it now you get a 12 point Capt., Just something to be aware of.

[@nimay13]

You gotta build that wall…

[@williamwiese9963]

Love mine, great video

[@sleepygryph]

These things were so annoying to run into while in testing. The coming weeks will be very trying, can you imagine running into a div of these? Well we probably won't have to, I'm sure some of our favorite YT will but just imagine you're a BB and all of a sudden you have 216 bombs being dropped on you and after your DC runs out you get another 216 dropped on you.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

Cant wait for her sister ship to be part of the tech tree . still unfinished at the day of the invasion finished in england with alternate guns as the fire control system was not yet installed for her Bofor guns. so refitted with 10 104 mm dual purpose destroyer guns in twin turrets. The Callenburgh class will be interesting ships as well as one was salvaged by the germans and used as ZH1 and the other isaac sweers still needing firecontroll systems refited her 5 bofor 120 mm guns for 6 104 mm dualpuropose guns with 2x4 torpedo tubes.

[@naval76legends15]

I think they should just do away with the torps and buff the AA speed and its good steering gears

[@djvidi1976]

Tromp..lets make dutch great again!!

[@sardaukerlegion]

Why take a CV if you can take Tromp?🤔🤨

[@BlackHearthguard]

coz airstrikes don't scout?

[@sardaukerlegion]

@@BlackHearthguard But DDs do.

[@BlackHearthguard]

@@sardaukerlegion sometimes... we must have both been in matches where the DD is just trying to get back to port as soon as it can.... zooms into cap, shoots at other DD, sinks. I'm sure there must be someone out there teaching that this is the correct way to DD, it happens so often... (saying that, I'm no fan of CVs or SSs).

[@sardaukerlegion]

@@BlackHearthguard Trump's plane have only 10 km range, so those will get closer.

[@motaz1975]

so basically play it like a german gun dd with no smokes.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

Still faster than Forrest Sherman. Nothing like a DD that can be run over by some BB's in game.

[@Frankon81]

Its coming in 2 weeks... not in 2023 ^^

[@jonathanbaron-crangle5093]

I picked Tromp up earlier today, for Coal. Torping & bombing people to death sounds like fun, right? Those guns? Oh wow. High fire chance (11% base) good balistics, & IF you want to build into them, how does 18.4km sound? (module-6 & 4-point captain skill combined) I haven't built into the guns like that (went with reload, plus just a 10-point captain) but it is kinda tempting (maybe a 2nd captain for that)

[@merafirewing6591]

Is Tromp an Elding clapper?

[@WildesWombat]

Ships looks intereting, probably going to get it for coal when its available

[@flfar3445]

How much does it cost total? If you don't mind

[@AdrianB_]

Tromp will destroy current capture fight, if you going in division with long range radar or stealth radar, you can punch him out easily from the capture, ignoring if where is behind the rock or mountain

[@tomr1630]

Did you say the Tromp does have smoke, or doesn't have smoke?

[@sealordmountbatten]

Does not

[@tomr1630]

@@sealordmountbatten Thank you, I'm sorry, I would have seen that when I played it to the end.

[@billwalker9509]

Two gameplays you said. Don't know how useful the second was at about 30 seconds in length.

[@sealordmountbatten]

The first match showed the Tromp and her abilities quite well. I saw no need to stretch out the review for another 10m just to show a second game

[@billwalker9509]

Can you point me in the direction of the Indonesian Ocean? Its not one of the seven I am familiar with. 🤔

[@BlackHearthguard]

ROFL

[@sealordmountbatten]

I believe I meant to say Indian Ocean

[@BlackHearthguard]

@@sealordmountbatten happens to us all mate, lol

[@sealordmountbatten]

@@BlackHearthguard India, Indonesian, close enough right? Lol

[@BlackHearthguard]

@@sealordmountbatten All start with Ind and looks much the same from Australia, lol

[@rebelsoldier8013]

nice thumbnail lol

[@ralphbennett8575]

Dont I know it, over powered

[@scousersuk]

lord have mercy my ears.......please use that patreon money for an upgrade appreciated

[@jabaited]

Insert Trump jokes*

[@jamesmorgan7699]

should load the airstrike mod instead of engine mod

[@tent7014]

Tromp MAGA !!!

[@Mithril_Antimarr]

Find it difficult not to dislike the ship just because of the similarity of names to the Fmr US Pres. Is it wrong that I really enjoyed helping to gun down one of these in game yesterday in my GK?

[@sickone86]

Wrong no sad yes.

[@gr8oone007]

Is Tromp worth 1 million Freexp + 30 million credits? That's more available to me than coal since I still need commanders and F Sherman.

[@CCM1199]

Tromp is a Joke. I played all day yesterday and seen all these whales lose within the first 3 minutes of the match. The bomblets do very little damage. the only thing that makes her dangerous is the torps as they hit hard when they hit successfully. however those torps are slow. I Dev struck a Tromp with HE from an Alaska and I literally spit out my coffee and laughed so hard.

[@Jim-sh7bp]

First here and hey you're aweesome keep it up. The tromp seems interesting but not for me.

[@donosprey8754]

I was super excited for this ship that I dropped the $150 on the spot. Don't make a video telling me to regret that 😂

[@jasonmariani1258]

It runs ranked battles. Runs them. Owns them. You see a tromp you’ll get bombed relentlessly fires up the ying yang, smoke, tormpedos, you name it WG have it to this ship. It’s cheating. Full on cheating

[@marconadal1412]

This game use a matchmaking cheatted because the F2Players have at 90% poor loss team and pay players have better team for easy winns. I did my last 50 battles and i losed 47 of them and i'm 90% first 3th place and this is certly algoritm p2w matchmaking. Every match ends with my team in 3 versus 9 or 10 enemys but not one, but not 2 on 4 or 4 on 8 but instead every and repeat every battles each battle the same as the one before and repeat, my team was outmatched 47 times out of 50 and this slaps mathematical probability because is cheated because is p2w matchmaking in algoritm.

[@Verbal_DEU]

So an other bullshit ship ruining the gameplay

[@cutterbacon]

Cost your soul to buy so hard pass.

[@Spalpeenz]

sounds too much like trump f-that I ain't buying it

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

Possibly THE Silliest reason not Not o buy a ship.

[@nicobruin8618]

You're autistic

[@uwuthanizeme5462]

My guy. The ship is named after Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp. The guy that commanded the dutch fleet during the battle of Duins where he destroyed over 60 spanish vessels and 15.000 spanish personnel, while only losing a single ship. Equating Trump to that is just an insult to Dutch history.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@uwuthanizeme5462 "Equating Trump to that is just an insult to Dutch history." I am LOATH to bring politics into WoW, (Politics ruins everything). I don't understand the Hatred of Donald Trump. What Exactly has he done to engender TDS?

[@Cryogen69]

Donald Tromp sorry