world's 1st TWO blade track saw 👀 Festool TSV 60 KEB

[@tykennedy5304]

Festool sure knows how to take my money.

[@batesto-mebel]

I want it !!

[@jessejohnson1557]

I’d get this in a heartbeat if it was cordless but I’d imagine it’d drain the batteries SOOOO fast, I’ll stick with the latest cordless keb for now :)

[@aberba]

They really think ahead of what customers needs. I give them that. Truly innovative.

[@Stefan_Van_pellicom]

I assume the V stands for “Vorritzer”, the German word for the small scoring blade. In Dutch it’s called “voorritser”, probably derived from the German word. (Edit : removed an l, Dutch speaker with one year of school-Deutsch)

[@Marcus_pePunkt]

You are nearly right. it's called "Vorritzer" - without l. It can usually be found on panel saws as an optional feature.

[@kevinotoole885]

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh natural assumption

[@jbrnds]

Yeah also sometimes called a voorloop blad or “walker (loper) in front (voor) blad (blade)”. So a blade that walks in fro nt. Ritser is also something like zipper. “Fore-zipp-blade”. Gotit?

[@TheMasterMief]

Although "Vorritzler" sounds very funny, it actually is "Vorritzer" as well in German.

[@marcomobson]

It's called "Vorritzer"! There might be Swabians calling it "Vorritzler", but they're famous for not being able to speak correct German... 🙈🤣🤣

[@awperk3620]

My makita track saw has a scoring preset that only lets the blade drop about 1/16th. Works great on melamine but does require two passes.

[@marcusmihai5638]

What the model number of this Makita you have please?

[@JBSeymour]

Yeah works great

[@georgenewlands9760]

It is so quick and easy to set the plunge depth on a Festool that an added scoring function is hardly necessary. I set the depth to 2 - 3 mm and pull the saw backwards, mimicking the scoring function. This does mean two passes with re-setting the plunge depth for each pass. That isn’t a problem for a hobbyist like me but I can see it being a pain (not to mention time waster) for a pro doing it for a living.

[@aaronoconnor606]

If you have a fresh makita max efficiency blade on the track saw you don't even need the scoring function. this is a highly specialized tool for a cabinet shop. Its alot cheaper then a 12 inch panel saw with a scoring blade. So its a good place to start. For me personally i would take the TS 60 over this saw

[@2chipped]

​@@marcusmihai5638every Makita tracksaw,36v,40v ,electric

[@pwisc2115]

Totally recommended this saw guys. Especially now that is on sale!! Only for $40K

[@covakoma1064]

WHAT?!

[@covakoma1064]

Its 1000£

[@pwisc2115]

@@covakoma1064 hahahaha. It's a saying man because even a pencil from Festool is insanely pricey.

[@covakoma1064]

@@pwisc2115 i know its pricey. Just because of that i thought it was real and shocked 🤣

[@pwisc2115]

@@covakoma1064 hahhahaha. Man, when I walk into stores and see the tools I want to buy one really bad, but as soon as I see the price tag I don't want anymore hahaha.

[@mustafaonyl3246]

Mafell AG made since 2010 plunge saw mt 55 cc, which has “Vorritzfunkltion”. Ideal for laminat plate and hartwood

[@Marcus_pePunkt]

Right, but you have to slide over the piece twice.

[@jvisser4662]

i have a mafell and its awesome

[@an2thea514]

you are the second guy in this comment section to add an l to a german word without reason.

[@riba2233]

old makita has scoring option and it works really bad on maffel

[@samsonacc8081]

​@riba2233 works great on mine, cnc like cuts, or should I say exactly the same as router cleaning pass. And that is with old blade which has cut tone of construction grade osb, ply stud work etc and never been sharpened. New mafell blade doesn't even need scoring function even on the weakest and cheapest of melamine.

[@michaelpayne8102]

Anyone that has used or owns a sliding table panel saw with a scoring unit will appreciate this, won’t be as fast but will be cheaper and take up less space and power requirements.

[@wummerG]

Brilliant. This would save a ton of time. I'm still stuck on a circular saw I have to manually adjust to score. I thought of eventually upgrading to a track saw that quickly switch between two depths, but this is even better.

[@acarpentersson8271]

This will probably be a huge success and be in every saw after this. I say this based on my past experiences of all the other times when I saw something that seemed ridiculous but everyone else loved it and 3 years later I give in and start using it myself.

[@WhangaFish]

So initially I wasn't so jazzed about this saw. The CXS and TXS yes, the Recip saw yes, but now I'm working with an edgebander with out premill... and now Im thinking yeah, I do actually need this more than more drills ha. Of course Im stilling getting the new drills tho

[@LukePighetti]

FINALLY we're getting corded brushless track saw with a brake in the USA. And with the scoring blade it makes it even better. So glad to see this upgrade. Does anyone know if it's running the 1.8mm blade?

[@StripLV]

Yes! 1.8mm

[@Fives501]

The TS stands for Tauchsäge (dive saw) and the v is for the word Vorritzer, which translates to precutter

[@SuperDeinVadda]

Tauchsäge = plunge cut saw (plunge saw)

[@Fives501]

@@SuperDeinVadda danke, wieder was dazu gelernt

[@justinsmith6995]

I like that they are making this. Before I would just set the blade 1/16 deep and run it backwards then set to final depth and cut like normal no chips.

[@Aladinscave]

👍🏻at no extra cost 👍🏻

[@nomadicgodking]

V stands for Very Expensive!

[@Official-nb6vb]

😂😂😂

[@jimknowles5483]

How much

[@patjohn775]

Very likely to break

[@moritzd3713]

Actually TSV stands for "Tauch Säge Vorritzer" wich means "Track Saw with Scoring blade" in german

[@ztoob8898]

There are fancy industrial table saws with scoring blades ahead of the main blade, too.

[@jesper1406]

No shit, Sherlock?! 😏

[@taylorhickman84]

and this thing costs as much as one.

[@LuisCasstle]

Ya, that's where they got the idea from.

[@warrenwerks]

@@taylorhickman84 not even close those table saws are 10k and up

[@taylorhickman84]

@@warrenwerks it was a joke, like festool pricing

[@TheRealGOTdurrrred]

I needed this video. I have OCD and I'm always going crazy trying to make everything perfect

[@janiksell2894]

"What's cool about the blade is that you can turn it off"

[@ahdam82]

I recently bought the TSC 55. I’m in love. I was going to buy the TSV 60 but they didn’t have it in cordless.

[@WillLeingang]

They are innovating like crazy right now!

[@jbbresers]

They have to, 2024 is the year the domino patent expires - expect copies from everyone.

[@WillLeingang]

@@jbbresers 😳 that’s worth a video alone! Come on creators!

[@milkod2001]

​@John Breslin that.s great. Can.t wait. Not in the mood to pay 1000e for domino 500

[@Tunfy]

Milwaukee innovates more .

[@agdtec]

I own 2 tracksaw they are great. But back before track saws I used tape over the cut line and a circular saw and straight edge clamps worked great

[@sjakie0420]

would making a scoring pass with the regular blade and then the actual cut produce the same results?

[@williamroozenboom3269]

Id like to see the actual scoring blade. How big is it? Is it proprietary to Festool so replacements are hard to get & expensive? Or is it some universal size? Also - would love to see results compared to a two-pass scoring setting saw (like my old Makita). That info would help consumers decide if this new version is right for them.

[@leozmaxwelljilliumz3360]

The 1/16th stop on my makita is for that reason. Takes 2 passes, but much cheaper. Gotta keep people buying festool though😂

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

Unreal that you went from a small channel to a leading source of tools in a few short years. That’s quite the accomplishment

[@LuisCasstle]

Not hard with tool companies backing you, just like the toy channels that try to look like families.

[@woodshed_moments]

That’s a really good idea, if you’d really cheap and substandard materials, yeah, splintering it’ll illuminate, but does that mean the saw is a bad idea? Actually, I think it’s brutal because there are really soft woods and other materials that a scoring blade would help considerably. Particularly as a guide with rare woods.

[@debandmike3380]

let's hope the scoring blade doesn't do all the chipping before the main blade has a chance to cut. my 55 does not chip don't know if it's wise of festool to suddenly show that the 55 chips I guess they'll do anything to promote the latest greatest. two blades can introduce misalignment and ledging. every solution introduces a new set of problems. a score depth lock like makita has would be nicer, you can modify the 55 with a stop pin.

[@kettelbe]

It s festool.

[@chriskelvin248]

I have a TS 55 as well and it doesn't chip...regular wood. It's melamine that is almost impossible to cut perfectly day in, day out- no matter your method. You get better results with higher-quality melamine, but the material cost of your project goes up too. This tool professes to make ultra quality cuts on standard grade material.

[@samsingh2042]

I've been waiting for this for ages

[@mustangjim4951]

I gotta say it is awesome

[@tanelve9]

That edge is storming crisp

[@abelgerli]

Actually that's why the makita has a scoring cut knob. First score 3mm deep without splinter then do the full cut. Ok this needs two cuts but you don't need it every time.

[@Alexander0011]

Just like some old rabbit planes have the little knicker in front to help tare out, pretty genius to put that same idea into a track saw.

[@lotus_8773]

I love when people new to using tools think they found the first of its kind, I've used a dual bladed track saw for almost 20 years now. score cut makes a huge diffrrence

[@JeffDM]

Why the permanent cord on this one? I thought this brand uses a plug on their tools so the user can swap the cord between tools easily, to strap one common cord to the dust collector hose.

[@wittworks]

I asked the same question. Their answer was power related. They can deliver more power somehow with a permanent cord. Don't understand it but will dig more for understanding.

[@loochan325]

​@@wittworks Festool has a weird thing for 1200W max for most tools, not all. This one is spect 1500W total power draw. But realy is similar to the old one, coz the old one has 1200W motor and 1250W plus 20% for the electronic driver on the new one = 1500W, so only 50W more for the motor. Mafell has 1400W motor and scoring mode. But yeah, a second blade for scoring is something else, I've been looking for this for decades...

[@Rupain]

@@loochan325 Power consumption (circular saw/scorer) 1500 / 190 W, for some reason both versions on the GB website 110 and 230v show a plug it cable which is odd since its combined power is over 1600w which is the cutoff for plugit cables due to safety concerns

[@w2ttsy670]

@@Rupain there will be a higher amp load in the US due to 110v power. UK/AU/EU markets with 230V power can do 2400W on a 10A load so well within specs for a standard cable. Hence why the 240V model comes with plug it connector.

[@KrazeeKraftZ]

Nice idea, although it costs more than the total for the last 4 cars I've owned and 1 of them I purchased brand new with a final cost was about AU$30K, the other 3 cost less than AU$10K in total!!

[@aaronshort5389]

Finally festool came out with a $19k tool.

[@JohnnyTheMonkey]

You can duplicate that result with your standard track saw by making a shallow scoring cut and then finishing with a full depth pass. Clamps are needed.

[@darrenalmeida1382]

Here we go, more Festool goodies for the wishlist! Looks like a good investment.

[@planespeaking]

The blades go in opposite directions for those saying zero cut is the same, saves time that will one day pay for the festool premium 😉

[@coreygroves7313]

Damnit festool I'll take 4 of them.

[@TeoPriceputul]

Nice tool

[@cpwright82]

I'm a bit surprised that they didn't use a plug-it on this tool.

[@StripLV]

Of course it has Plug It!

[@cpwright82]

@@StripLV At 0:24 they say it has a permanent cord, and show it affixed to the tool without the socket.

[@StripLV]

​@@cpwright82oh sorry. The German version has it. I don't know why US doesn't.....

[@dalephilpott2009]

They do, perhaps its just US version

[@user-hd6wi812]

say all u want…. i just paid up for the Cordless Kapex…. theres no other comparable saw that does what this side does forit size weight in ergonomic work ability and I’m not the guy that has $20,000 worth of fess tools. I also have one of their track saws and I love it

[@agent7agent759]

I would definitely buy this saw!!! Hey festool if you read this make it available to North America please

[@sorenludwig3978]

that can be hard, even the regular ts 60 is and will not be available in north america. But i heard, that there will be a cordless version of the ts 60, which technology translates better to the the 60 hz/110 v. Maybe there will also be a cordless tsv 60.

[@Daxelinho9]

Couldn't you just set the main blade on your normal saw 1 or 2 mm, do one cut (in the opposite direction) and adjust it for your desired depth? Of course it's more work but I bet you need a lot of cuts to reach break even. At least that's what I would do.

[@gregtrimble7113]

How much heavier is it than the 60 with no V?

[@nathanbroise9020]

How is it cross cutting wood veneer plywood ?

[@ghostface8649]

Does this saw make angle cuts?

[@StripLV]

Yes

[@chekhov1860]

What about just turning the sheet upside down? Tell me if I’m missing something.

[@acerjuglans383]

You're missing something.

[@chekhov1860]

@@acerjuglans383 Okay, I’m missing something. I should have been more explicit by then asking, what exactly am I missing? If I want to avoid breakout I’ll turn the workpiece over and it seems to resolve the problem. Cheers.

[@nathantaylor9829]

How does it compare to a router?

[@josvandiepen3425]

The V stands for Vorritzer. German for scorer.

[@justintharp5508]

Way beyond anything I'd be attempting. But still very cool to have. I couldn't justify the spend tho, just my shop though.

[@ryananthony4840]

DAMNIT!! I had that idea and was seriously going to make one

[@kylehowie5744]

Could have used that a few years back on a job, nothing left if chip free, not even routering

[@richardberryhill718]

Awesome!

[@Ste2023]

Great laminate, kitchen worktops

[@evzone84]

I'm pretty sure the V stands for very expensive. Amazing tools.... that I'll never be able to afford.

[@fernard8985]

The cut always looks better on one side. I never get tearout on one side even with a 20$ blade. Make a full cut through the material and show me both sides

[@FunDumb]

Where in canada can I but this?

[@Version135]

Impressive results.

[@Bigdog1787]

Now how many $1000s did they stick on the price tag.😎

[@Zamboni-0805]

Makita tack saw already has a scoring setting that works perfect

[@wittworks]

don't know price. seems like May release date.

[@AaronGeller]

@@Zamboni-0805 it’s not the same thing. It’s a scoring pass than a scoring blade

[@deoromodularworks421]

Is this available in the Philippines?

[@iamswright1853]

I need a 3rd blade just because it’ll be the first!

[@davebasch5995]

Same thing can be accomplished by first doing a scoring climb cut ( pull saw toward you)at 2 mm deep- never more than that!!, then a full depth pass. It takes an additional 10 seconds

[@54oddrod]

Sets current festool saw to 2-3mm runs saw backwards, sets saw to depth i need runs saw forwards, as if by magic no chips

[@markjarvis9780]

Mafel has a score option with only one blade 🤔

[@ahobimo732]

It makes sense for someone whose employment involves working with a lot of laminated sheet stock on a regular basis. If you need to make perfect cuts in But for the average DIYer, it's about as practical as buying a nuclear submarine, and probably has a similar price tag.

[@heyimamaker]

Why the permanent cord?

[@Timothylaing]

This is cool.

[@hamptonmanufacturing3566]

Damn! I just bought a Dewalt otherwise I would be so looking to get one of these

[@unclefester4626]

Awsome!

[@bobdebouwer7835]

You can make this on any track saw. Just get a mini circular saw and fix it in front. No need to sell a kidney and turn green

[@chriskelvin248]

Not to be simply contrary or just mean, but this is ~$370 more than the regular TS 60. That doesn't seem excessive if you could get a lot of use with this kind of tool. You cannot design, develop, build and warranty yourself a reliable addon for that price. If you don't like Festool brand tools because you dislike their higher price and don't believe they deliver commensurate value, that's certainly none of my business.

[@bobdebouwer7835]

@@chriskelvin248 Good point. When money isn't tight it's a nice buy.

[@chriskelvin248]

@@bobdebouwer7835 Yeah, I just bought a TS 55 FEQ F Plus six months ago and for the amount of melamine cabinetry work I do, this new saw won't pay for itself. Folks would rather buy something premade from IKEA or WayFair and meet 75% of their requirements.

[@bearlemke]

That’s awesome

[@graphics80]

Permanent cord? What did happen there!!!

[@graphics80]

No permanent cord in europe! Perfect!

[@roadracer247]

Is this going to be available in the US?

[@StripLV]

Yes

[@sargeinamerica]

Reverse the blade and use painters tape works for me

[@micssticksnpipes]

Permanent cord???

[@danthechippie4439]

Until now there has been no substabute for a pannel saw with a scoring blade. Those pannel saws are fantastic at cutting melamine and other fragile sheet goods, but they are huge and expensive. They can rip a 3 metre long sheet no problem so you can guess how big a space you need to house one. This saw looks like a portable version that takes up no space and is portable to the job site. No pannel saw can do that. I don't know how much festool is charging but I'm interested

[@chimrichalds1422]

I suppose if it saves you from chipping a top and having to replace it would pay for itself pretty quick.

[@theyard6958]

Its cheaper to just purchase a laminate cutting blade, rather than a fine tooth crosscut blade.

[@davidhodgson4075]

Scroll cut blades have been around for decades and decades. Just set your tracksaw for a sub 1mm pre cut to break the surface then plunge full depth. There - just saved ya £1000 👍🏼👌🏼

[@manayconstruction5861]

👍👍👍👍👍👍exactly what i do sir.

[@DavidLee-cw6ci]

Oh do you do that in one pass then? Are you being deliberately obtuse it can you really not see the utility of this?

[@davidhodgson4075]

@@DavidLee-cw6ci haha. Two passes bud.

[@chriskelvin248]

This is ~$370 more than the TS60. When they offer it to US market.

[@WoodcraftBySuman]

Can I even afford to look at this?!

[@agent7agent759]

It's not much just 100$ admission fee ,150$ to touch it ( must bring your own white velvet gloves) or you can purchase from festool for additional 50$ 😆 🤣 😂

[@Nobzu]

First one with dull blade. Second cut with wood blade. Last cut with laminate blade. Why would you need expensive saw if you can buy good blade for current saw ;)

[@felipereinaldo9573]

Onde compro aqui no Brasil???

[@chasematthews1661]

Maybe they should worry about getting other track saw models back in stock rather than worry about coming out and having to produce a hole new track saw.

[@iliqnmarinov9814]

Do you have cordless

[@steffengrossmann169]

Sharp blade in the “normal” Festool tracksaw does the same job. Or you just run it twice with different depths 🤷‍♂️

[@realprojecttools9127]

next question is why not cordless?

[@57z]

Probably Amps/torque required would either drain the batteries quickly or just not perform well.

[@loochan325]

​​@@57z With 2 x 8Ah you have up to 3168W, 2 x 18 x 88A, so double the needed power. With 2 x 5.2Ah you hae up to 1656W, 2 x 18 x 46A.

[@a..d5518]

This saw will undoubtedly create a lot of dust/sawdust so you’ll more than likely have a corded vac running in support of the saw. My question is: why a permanent cord? Guess Festool wants you to pay for the labor to replace a damaged cord. Seems a cheap/underhanded tactic considering what they charge for the saw.

[@StripLV]

I guess because this saw is meant to be used in the shop. But maybe a cordless one will come in the future. I know that the TSC 60 will come for sure. I also hope for a TSVC 60....

[@StripLV]

It will be a niche product. So battery powered is questionable...

[@wwh2694]

Will this be released in US and when?

[@StripLV]

Yes. In Europe in May. I don't know when in US but it will come to US

[@AB-ot3bc]

You still have to have a good blade no matter what saw you use.

[@Salamibro]

a tool like this wanst needed 40 years ago and today only a small amount will need it mainly trades that build kitchen or work with other coated materials for many just the normal ts55 or 75 is good as is not even the kickback protection is needed if you work carefully with it

[@jesper1406]

Germany have Festool, Mafell and others. They smash it out of the park constantly...

[@melonlab80]

Not a fan of the permanent cord, I think the detachable cord on their other saws is better

[@funnyharleyman]

How much?

[@ridelpages5275]

Where buy it ...

[@brianmonroe488]

The V is for Very Expensive

[@wittworks]

🫢

[@bdm1000]

@@wittworks the "V" stands for "Vorritzfunkltion" ("scoring function"). Remember, in German a V sounds like a W. ;)

[@Anglo-EgyptianMan]

Will there be a cordless version?

[@michaelpayne8102]

Not any time soon the 60 series without the scoring unit already blows the battery power curve.

[@fabian3265]

Why would you ever want this on battery? You need to collect the dust anyways…. The extra power cable doesnt matter then

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@fabian3265 Sometimes dust is not a concern, also, Festool has a cordless dust extractor.

[@Therealphantomzero]

Permanent cord? Why the change

[@wittworks]

more power.

[@adammoore6594]

Great thanks festool my bank account loves you

[@joachimhans4432]

Unbezahlbar

[@JustTony72]

Don't understand the move to permanent cable.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

I can't even imagine what that's going to cost. Still, it's cheaper than a panel saw.

[@deanmiles8421]

Love the rail saws but they just sound so rough, sounds like it's going to break down.

[@stevestead1792]

I just cut finished side down