World’s Fastest Bass Raider!? 4 HP Outboard Speed Test

[@cowbyupnow1]

Pull your trolling motor up out of the water... it creates a lot of drag and effect your top speed ..especially against the current. Plus it puts undue pressure and stress on your trolling motor shaft.

[@TallFisherJ]

Sounds like common sense but I never thought of that... thanks!

[@chiii2399]

I love these little boats. I haven’t seen anyone that isn’t damn proud of their humble little rig.

[@TallFisherJ]

Yeah man I’d agree! I don’t see many of them out on the water though, but they’re awesome little boats!

[@bradhuskers]

@@TallFisherJ i have a suzuki 6 hp. it only weighs 52 pounds. do you think the pelican can handle it? if I don't go full throttle?

[@jeffro1005]

@@bradhuskers 4hp and 6hp weight is the same just different carbs.

[@wokeamerica142]

​@@TallFisherJI have never seen any where I live , a bud and myself each picked one up so well see if any more pop up on the water lmao

[@MrSirPhase3]

Can you post the shaft length on your motor that you are using with the bass raider?

[@micclay]

I am thinking upgrading from my hangkai to one of these. Was curious how it would do. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

[@sutv6754]

great setup. I'm almost there. Have you taken this setup out on any rivers. I only do rivers and I'm a bit worried it won't truck upstream. The Rivers in PA are not that intense but they surely have a current.

[@TallFisherJ]

Yes you will be able to, but won’t win any speed contests if your set up is similar

[@terrykannedy8154]

I pick up to about 8-10 in the ocean with my Pond Prowler 10 with just a 3.5 Merc. You should have gotten more out of that 4hp. It looks like your troller was deployed, so maybe that hurt things. Plus these boats love it when you're perfectly centered front to back so it can get up on plane. I get from Mission Bay San Diego up to the La Jolla kelp in 45 minutes when it's glassy and no swell and that's a good 9-10mph average. If I'm loaded with my lobster gear or my teenager, I lose 1-2mph. Plus if you've got the Short shaft, you're probably ventilating too. I have the long shaft.

[@THUF007]

Thanks for the review, did u get the 15” or 20” shaft? 👍🏻

[@BKBOutdoors]

I've go a 6.5hp mud motor with a 7 inch prop on mine, I've got it up to 11mph fully loaded

[@coopsoutdoors2428]

I like your boat set up. I have a 3.5 Mercury on mine, get about 6 mph. Yeah, pull your trolling motor out of the water, it'll do better.

[@crosstiesbeagles]

How is the trim set on your motor?

[@intrceptor]

I was thinking the same thing. I doubt these will get on plane like an aluminum boat, but trimming it back just a little will get some of that bow out of the water and run faster. Too much and I'm going to guess the steering will suffer.

[@midcoflyfishing]

Bass Raider is all about chill vibes. Please always wear a PDF. Personal Floatation Device. Especially on open water. We have all felt the pain and sorrow of loosing a loved one. Better to be safe than anything else. Lost a physically fit friend to going over board. It happens. So be safe. Glad you put some carpet down. Looks fresh. I wanna catch a bass on the Raider

[@TallFisherJ]

No worries Kathleen I have it on board I just have to get used to wearing it 😅 I’ve actually put it on a few times when it’s been really windy out... the bass raider is just so stable it makes me feel too safe lol

[@timholt3139]

Would like to see how you addressed the transom flex with that stronger motor and does the front end rise when wide open. these are the issues im seeing with my bass raider.

[@fishingwithvance]

Good information. I enjoyed it. Have fun and Fish on!

[@Max-eg6ps]

Hey what kind of shaft is it ? Long or short ? Wanna buy a tohatsu mfs5 on that boat and don’t be sure 😊 thanks for help

[@TallFisherJ]

4 hp suzuki short shaft

[@derricknero5672]

Thanks man I have the same setup and I was scared to put my 4hp Merc on it, and I also have the 45 bulldog. For the front

[@mfuckgoogle3273]

@Derrick if that bulldog is the transom mounted foot control one, I'll buy it from you.

[@frugalfun4817]

Ever go out into a bay? How does it do in chop?

[@TallFisherJ]

HIGHLY do not recommend in heavy chop unless you bring a scuba suit lol

[@aa6zi]

Nice. I'm looking to do the same thing. I'm running my 12 ft alum boat with a MinnKota trolling motor and it does the job but can only go 3-4 mph.

[@bradhuskers]

i have the suzuki 6 hp, it only weighs 52 pounds. do you think the pelican can handle it? if I don't use full throttle?

[@TallFisherJ]

Yes it shouldn’t be a problem

[@3beltwesty]

With my Hanhkai 6 HP the transom flexes down at before it is at full throttle. So somewhat below 6 it flexes. By flex i mean the transom part is buckling the plastic and it returns back when running the motor not wide open. My boat is a used boat.. i have no idea if the past owner used a large motor or not. Anyway to use my rig at its full 6 HP I need to build a brace to handle the torque of the 6 HP Hangkai. By torque i mean the force of the propeller times the shorts shafts propeller to transom distance is causing the transom to buckle on mine. When it buckles the transom goes through the bulk of its angular change when you reach the point it buckles. It returns back at lower HP.

[@tellrich29]

I’m thinking about buying a small outboard to for my pond prowler which is similar to your raider. Any advice on whether to go full hp size of 5hp or was 3.5 hp good enough. Did the boat track well with the motor or is there lots of resistance

[@TallFisherJ]

I wouldn’t recommend more than a 4 unless you reinforce the transom. And i personally don’t think anything over 10 mph is safe sense your center of gravity is so high up with the way these boats are designed Just my opinion :)

[@jamesbeal8934]

I have read several articles on the 3.5 and 4 hp motors on the 10E. some have said they had flexing issues with the transom..Have you noticed anything with yours??

[@TallFisherJ]

Yes there flex with an outboard! You’ll need to reinforce the transom if you plan on putting an outboard off any size in my opinion

[@jamesbeal8934]

@@TallFisherJ did you reinforce yours?? If so can you post some pics of how you did it??

[@fordfairlane1955]

is this a short or long shaft outboard ty

[@TallFisherJ]

Short

[@fordfairlane1955]

@@TallFisherJ thanks

[@jakes8545]

Haha I have a sun dolphin 8.5 and a 05 mercury 2 stroke 3.5hp and top speed for me is about 6 but I have a lot of wood decking and carpeting on it plus two 12v batteries

[@TallFisherJ]

That’s not bad for the weight! I got wood decking to, but I think the extra .5 hp helps… I’m not too worried about the speed, it’s just nice to be able travel a lot further being gas powered

[@jakes8545]

@@TallFisherJ I actually was thinking about putting a 5 or 6 hp on it this summer cuz I was looking to get 10mph+. If you watch Zoefringers (excuse my butchering) videos you’ll see he actually did that but has very little video/details about it. But also has a vid with the 10e and a 9.9…. But modded stern

[@CBostic92]

Is that the version with the alternator to keep your battery charged? If so how you like it?

[@TallFisherJ]

Motor doesn’t come with an alternator it’s a Manuel start... Battery is for the trolling motor and depth Finder!

[@CBostic92]

You can get the alternator for these motors it’s an option it’ll still be pull crank but while it runs just like when your car runs it’ll charge your trolling motor/aux battery the 4 and 6 both have that option everything higher I think it’s standard feature

[@TallFisherJ]

Thanks, I didn’t know that! I’ll have to look in to it...

[@CBostic92]

Yeah it’d be a nice feature to have if using a trolling motor and the motor on the same boat.. trying to get me one ordered but apparently Suzuki has them on back order till august tho 🙄😂

[@LTM_Outdoors]

Great Video!

[@EMSBallistics]

Nice!!! I started with a 2.5 suzuki, way too slow lol. I have a suzuki 6 on it now, and its perfect.

[@TallFisherJ]

Awesome man! Yeah if I could do it over again I would gotten the 6 as well

[@bradhuskers]

did you build support when using the Suzuki 6 hp?

[@EMSBallistics]

@@bradhuskers Nope, The transom flexed the same as the 2.5. No support needed for me. 4 stroke 6 hp has a slow power band, So it doesn't really slam, It's a slow power climb.

[@bradhuskers]

@@EMSBallistics Thank you! Plus, I don't really want to go fast, I am happy only using half throttle. So thank you for your valuable insights!!

[@bradhuskers]

@@EMSBallistics I'm really looking forward to using my Suzuki 6hp Thank you for your valuable insight

[@RedfishInc]

Lol, I guess that you didn't see the video of Zoffinger putting a 9.8hp on his Bass Raider. I think it's pretty safe to assume that was the fastest Bass Raider so far. He was afraid to run it above half throttle cuz it was too, "squirrely ", lol.

[@upstate3153]

My man j rob. Cool dude Fr seem like you would be fun af to fish with. If you ever come up to ny we got some good fisheries I could show you. Great vids then bro keep at it 🙏🏾💪🏾

[@TallFisherJ]

Thanks bro, just let me know where ya at and if I’m ever you’re way we’ll try to make it happen!

[@upstate3153]

@@TallFisherJ I’m in upstate ny by the fingerlakes

[@Mister_Y]

There doesn’t seem to be that much more significant speed over the 2.3 or 2.5 motors. Also it most likely weighs more. Curious why you chose this over the smaller engines?

[@TallFisherJ]

My boat fully loaded weighs about 500lbs (with me and all equipment) ...my main thing was having enough power while I’m in heavy current because I fish a lot of rivers and creeks... if I were just doing lakes and reservoirs then 2.3 would be plenty Thanks for the question!

[@brianb.975]

White Claw? Come on J!

[@TallFisherJ]

Lol! I was a skeptic at first man, but I can’t lie to myself... they’re good 😂

[@2204thientai]

Lol. I tried 5hp and it fly!!! But end up have to reinforce the transom.

[@TallFisherJ]

Yeah transom flexes pretty bad but the outboard makes a ton of difference

[@lnash2569]

The boat is only rated for a 2.5 HP outboard. With a 4HP you are putting to much stress on your transom.

[@TallFisherJ]

I actually modded the transom to withstand more thrust. My 4 hp doesn’t even flex the transom

[@lnash2569]

@@TallFisherJ Sorry. I just watched it again and I see that now. Great👍

[@bradhuskers]

​​@@TallFisherJ can you tell me what you did in the transom modification to support the suzuki motor for less flexing.

[@kelseydavis-roberts7473]

Nice

[@TallFisherJ]

No, you

[@Budget.bass.fishing]

Lift your front motor up that’s way unsafe and slowing you down .

[@LTM_Outdoors]

You can do it for free because I want to help your channel out!

[@TallFisherJ]

Alright my man sounds good. Feel free to shout my channel out if you’d like!

[@LTM_Outdoors]

@@TallFisherJ Thanks!!

[@TallFisherJ]

Anytime buddy!

[@redfish-vg9dj]

Are you kidding me, you're trolling motor was dragging the whole time, number one: HORRIBLE for the transome you have the trolling motor on, and the trolling motor Number two: your speed would have increased SUBSTANTIALY, without the trolling motor dragging in the water!!!🤦‍♂️

[@robstone7325]

No need to go any faster than 5 or 6 mph in these boats, there not ment to have any thing bigger than a 3.5 hp. Im waiting for somone on youtube to put a jet motor on this boat. LMAO!!!