Also I used your discount code with crimson talon and essentially got 6 heads for $56 after shipping. Thanks for all the amazing reviews
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Nice. Those are quite the value!
@bishoparchery5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video and comments John! Awesome!!! Thought the review was more than fair for this niche type of North American Big Game head. Firstly, just to clarify, while we have harvested big game with compound bows in prototypes for six years and the 315 grain works great for compound bows, I have primarily used this 315 grain with 22 inch arrow/bolts for crossbows and my traditional archery bows. The 315 is my personal favorite for North America Big Game with my Crossbows and my Traditional archery bows. Secondly, unlike the awesome serrated stone points and Magnus heads in our collection that I adore over the years...there is no cutting device between the planned mechanical cutting like on stone points, a Magnus, or a SteelForce. (There is no cutting device between the planned mechanical cutting by design and it does not exist in the prior art). Thirdly, just as lightweight sub IBO 5 grains per pound micro diameter arrows and high FPS thin bladed broadheads will always penetrate the best in friction based arrow stopping mediums such as ballistic gel, layered foam targets and cardboard...... but not so much so in big game, we have yet to fail to get a passthrough on North America Big Game over the last six years with the Jumbo 3 in 100-315 grain prototypes. That record will end with a knuckle or femur, I am certain...but even with my little 45 pound Shrew longbow = 100% passthroughs on numerous big game over the last six years. Fourthly, 315 geains is not for everyone, but check out a milder version of the Jumbo 3 in 125 grains for North America Big Game that is more geared towards compounds. Fifthly, check out my free e-book The Edge Bevel Integrity Continuum at Bishop Archery. Lastly, God Bless everyone and regardless of the brand of broadhead or bow 🏹 you shoot from a longbow through a crossbow - praying 🙏 for nothing but passthroughs for you all as at the end of the day we are a passthrough driven R&D outfit and for North America Big Game this Jumbo 3 tested 100 percent passthroughs on humdreds of animals over six years. Though keeo in mind femurs and knuckles of even deer can stop even our 600 grain single bevel sometimes. Check out that free E-Book over at Bishop Archery, normally $7.99 but right now free at Bishop Archery. God Bless You All, Sean and family over at Bishop Archery 💘
@LuskArcheryAdventures3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Toe_Knee_695 ай бұрын
I read about your surgery a few weeks back. Hope everything is well!
@bishoparchery5 ай бұрын
Can't really get into commenting on these chat boards very much, as just like vanilla or chocolate ice cream 🍨... everybody is passionate about the flavor ice cream they eat, or brand truck they drive etc. However, it is not debatable as tough as our Steel Footed Arrows and 100-600 grain broadheads are....this guy John Lusk is tougher....one of the toughest and kindest hearted human beings on the planet 🌎 and one of the best adventure bowhunters to ever live. Rest up John, we adore you and are praying for you ❤️
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I wish I could say I’m all better now, but it is going to be a long road. The physical therapist said it would be 8 to 12 weeks after the surgery before I can shoot a bow.
@chevyhorsepower5 ай бұрын
Remember your smooth stones brother. I’ve been praying for you from Reno. Our heavenly father is always faithful. Thank you for your faithfulness to him and for all your broadhead videos!
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Thank you, brother :)
@frankgulla87825 ай бұрын
Wow, this head looks like a beast! I would think a 150gr, 1.5" version would be a better all around broad head, but thAt sucker looks indestructible!
@garnerakin13725 ай бұрын
They’re releasing a 125 grain version
@garnerakin13725 ай бұрын
At 1.6”
@TheArrowBuilder5 ай бұрын
@@garnerakin1372 I won their contest to try them out. I got one 125 head that has been "in the mail" for about 2 months.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of the 125 grain versions. They look really wicked. As soon as my back heals, I will start testing them.
@garnerakin13725 ай бұрын
@@TheArrowBuilder I’ve got a pack of 12 pre ordered as well. Looking forward to deer season with them!!
@MetalWingIcarus5 ай бұрын
You can really tell how big of a hole these punch with the steel plate test! I got a good laugh at that point in the video. Those square cuts into the edge really do change the cut pattern. I am tempted to machine some channels like that into a more reasonable weight, one piece head like an Annihilator XL or something similar. I would assume the results would be the same. Great video John!
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
They are coming out with 125 grain version. I have a bunch of them to test and I’m eager to do so, as soon as my back heals up. They sure do look cool.
@kip.k5 ай бұрын
That sure would increase FOC! I saw they also have a solid 125 grain head. That may be more practical for most applications.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yep. I’ll be testing that one soon. I have some already and they look wicked!
@chriswigington15724 ай бұрын
I like your shirt!
@LuskArcheryAdventures4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Funny; I’m wearing it right now. It’s my favorite :) It’s made by Bow Adx.
@georgewashington16215 ай бұрын
John, if you dont mind telling, how many shots into the cinder block does that arrow you're using for tough shots usually survive? Or does it survive all of them and you're still using the same one? I've run into a situation where i'm travelling with a suitcase and i cant bring any kind of target with me, but i bring my disassembled recurve bow and arrows with me. I've thought about getting some really tough arrows and just shooting them into a side of a hill for practice, i wonder if a set up can be made where the arrow will survive being shot into the dirt with rocks in it. What do you think about that? My recurve pulls around 50lb at my draw weight and isnt the fastest so energy wise its probably half of your compound bow at best.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
I can typically get about 20 shots into the concrete. The arrow rarely breaks, but eventually the insert comes out. I often glue it back in and keep shooting it. If the insert gets too loose, then I shoot it into concrete, then sometimes the arrow will break. That’s really the only time that the arrow breaks. They also make an arrow called the GOAT that would never break. I use those for my crossbow bolts.
@Jsfea015 ай бұрын
Great video! I’m confused by this broadhead. Has the weight that you would use on the biggest animals on the planet, yet has a cutting width that would limit you to smaller animals. I don’t see many deer hunters using a 315gr head nor do I see dangerous game hunters using a penetration-limiting massive cut head. Also, not saying they aren’t worth $67 a piece, but they really should be closer to 200 on the sharpness tester.
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
It’s definitely a niche head. Some people like to hunt deer sized game with very heavy set ups-just to put them down on the spot. They also plan to come out with a lighter weight version that would be more commonly useful.
@southfloridanick5 ай бұрын
Short range wild hog head all day
@garnerakin13725 ай бұрын
They do have a 125 grain version as well I believe
@jonah-n8l5 ай бұрын
Most ranch ferry queens put 300grains up front so they should eat this one up!
@dougkeiser94065 ай бұрын
@@jonah-n8lit’s not single bevel though lol
@frankbrowning3285 ай бұрын
That's a monster! Wow! I'd really like to see how this performs on a deer
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Yeah, me too
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yep
@timothyhall9635 ай бұрын
Iron sharpens Iron absolutely correct brother.
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
I love that shirt.
@timothyhall9635 ай бұрын
@JohnLuskOutdoors me too I've watched many of your sermons when you resided in Iowa.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Thank you. You can watch them in Dallas as well: DFW East Worship Center on KZbin
@blessedvetoutdoors5 ай бұрын
That's a tank of a broadhead! Definitely as you suggested a no nonsense head. You'd have to be chasing some deadly game for this chunk.
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Yep
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yes sir
@bobstoddard17965 ай бұрын
Could you do the entire test with the crossbow. Would really be interesting to see how the penetration is
@LuskArcheryAdventures4 ай бұрын
I may do that in the future. There is a growing crossbow audience for sure. That’s why I included the crossbow this year. But most of my audience are vertical shooters. So I don’t want to leave them out. I will see how it goes in the years ahead. Thank you for the suggestion.
@bobstoddard17964 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures if I donate the heads would you do them with a crossbow?
@lukeaday5 ай бұрын
Have you seen the Edgetac 775 grain single bevel? 0.2inch thick blades and 2 inch cut
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
I’ve not seen those. Thanks for sharing that.
@willc33845 ай бұрын
Finally! A broadhead for hunting humvees.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Haha. That’s a good one.
@garrettschienschang78985 ай бұрын
Didn’t penetrate great but hit with quite some authority. Would be a great turkey head but I’m not sure about penetration on large game unless you have a very heavy bow/crossbow
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s only designed for a very niche market. It’s for those who use a very heavy set up, like around 1000 grains or more. They generate enough momentum to really drive. Even this Broadhead deeply into a deer size animal.
@jameswilson55625 ай бұрын
U could hunt tanks with that lol. Great video
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Haha. Right on
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yep!
@Steve-mz5uv5 ай бұрын
A three blade version of the Magnus ser razer
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
There are some similarities. But also quite a few differences-materials, dimensions, construction, etc.
@True_flight7774 ай бұрын
Hammer of a broadhead 🔨
@LuskArcheryAdventures4 ай бұрын
Yep.
@FruitJuice925 ай бұрын
well it's impressive sharp despite the thickness but i don't know, it's so much but it still gives so less, i don't know how good this can be in 99% of every hunting situation, the drag it has is so big that i think this could only be really good when shooted out of a 100lbs bow or a very powerful crossbow
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is a niche head. There are people who hunt deer with very heavy set ups, just to put the deer down fast. They’re also coming out with a lighter version soon.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yep
@jolookstothestars63585 ай бұрын
Just started the video and can say already the blades are way too thick and that serration is no good. Magnus did that also and it just collects hair and brings it into the wound. If it penetrates 5 and a 1/2 inches I'll be surprised.
@jolookstothestars63585 ай бұрын
Looks like I was right....only 5.25 inches of penitration. Make it about 200 grains without the serration and I'd take a look.👍
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
That was actually greater penetration than I was expecting. It definitely demands a lot of momentum to make it effective on an animal. It’s designed for people shooting very heavyweight set ups like around 1000 grains or so.
@feralgrandad44295 ай бұрын
Think I'll try a 750 (ish) grain build with a 200g spine arrow and shoot it outs my 82lb OG PSE Omen. Even at my Hobbit 26.25 inch draw i recon it'll rock 😁😁
@LuskArcheryAdventures4 ай бұрын
:)
@aronslaght66395 ай бұрын
Sharpness was poor. Penetration was poor. Accuracy was good, not great. How does it score >90?
@tommurph44965 ай бұрын
I think the accuracy was decent because of how slow it was going, if some of these heads were tested over300fps they would be like throwing curve balls.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Just look at the score sheet in the video description. Same parameters I use for testing every head.
@austinhayes39015 ай бұрын
It’s cool and all, but in all seriousness why do you need a 315 grain head?
@DIRTISTERRIBLE5 ай бұрын
For that awesome penetration you get with very heavy setups...... Supposedly
@jonah-n8l5 ай бұрын
Exactly! You don’t even need a total arrow weight of over 400grains tbh
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
It’s a niche market. I’ve used Broadheads that heavy for very heavyweight situations, like Cape Buffalo. Bishop even makes a 600 grain Broadhead for that very purpose. Some people like hunting Whitetail with over 1000 grains, just to give them incredible momentum with a very large broadhead, so they can put the deer down immediately. People do that especially in suburban areas where they don’t want the deer to run in into someone’s yard, or in very thick areas where tracking would be a huge challenge.
@rustinpeace746619 күн бұрын
For all those complaining about the price they are 12 for $250 at the moment. Split it with your buddies and try them out.
@LuskArcheryAdventures17 күн бұрын
:) and now they’ve come out with a 125 grand model that is really intriguing. They’re back at my house in Dallas waiting to be tested, but I’m stuck in Denver recovering from a pretty serious back surgery. Hopefully I’ll be able to test them in the early part of 2025.
@rustinpeace746616 күн бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Can't wait!
@tolt17765 ай бұрын
Single bevels are the only broadheads that continue rotation while penetration id happening. All others dump energy and stop spinning. "Pushing" through if you are using anything other than single bevels. Try stabbing shit with your arrow by hand and see if you can twist it through any medium.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yep. That’s true-for whatever gain might be had by that continued rotation.
@tolt17765 ай бұрын
@LuskArcheryAdventures the gain is gaping huge gashed out lethal wounds vs slits and cuts!
@tommurph44965 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your testing, I go to your videos anytime I’m considering a new broadhead. I really pay close attention to the accuracy test. I noticed your xbow bolts are over 600gr which slows down the bolt a good bit. Is it possible to add in a lighter bolt so that your speeds are over 300fps? A lot of us shoot faster bows, and some of the heads don’t do well over 300fps, it would be nice to see that in the tests as well.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
I chose that weight so I could get a speed of right around 300 ft./s. That way it is a very comparable test of the aerodynamics at a compound bow speed. I understand there are other variables like Aero length and spine and so forth. But from a share speed perspective, it is very similar. to test them at 400+ feet per second would not be of any value to my compound bow audience, which is the vast majority of my viewers.
@jonah-n8l5 ай бұрын
Steel force saber tooth
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yeah, they use a type of serration as well
@arodriguez27072 ай бұрын
What happened to the holy trinity? Their website looks like the company is in trouble...
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
The company is just one guy :) But he’s an amazing guy. He knows he’s not so good at marketing or websites :)
@arodriguez27072 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I see, an updated review or broadhead battle would be good for those. The reviews you have for them are kinda outdated.
@cenccenc9465 ай бұрын
yea, kind of seems for something you don't need a pass through shot.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s a very niche product. There are a number of people who prefer an extremely heavy set up for Whitetail. They like to aim right at the shoulder from any angle and they want the deer to just drop. I know people using well over 1000 grains for Whitetail for that very purpose. This head could certainly, work well for them. For the average Hunter, they really is not much use for this.
@elncalls5 ай бұрын
Hmm… getting a little silly these manufacturers.
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
It’s definitely a niche head. Some people like using a really heavy set up for deer-due to hunting in super thick cover or even suburban areas-and they want to put them down fast.
@oldfatnugly5 ай бұрын
everything bishop makes is outrageously overbuilt
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Bishop makes super high end, extremely durable stuff. It’s just a guy in his basement who loves to make quality archery gear. Very niche market. But their stuff is extremely well made.
@scottcampbell80115 ай бұрын
Maybe it being so darn think would allow me to shoot it into anything 20 times before breaking
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Well all of Bishops heads are that way-they’re just geometrically and materially as durable as they come.
@feelsgooddoit5 ай бұрын
Get a 3d hv shaft with a titanium insert and make the craziest foc arrow ever
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
:)
@Deerpoo225 ай бұрын
That sucker looks horrendous. Combine the huge cut, thick blades, already not very sharp 60° bevel, plus the serrations, along with that awful angle of attack, and I see one of the worst penetrating BHs on the market. No way, especially at that price
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s a very niche broadhead for a niche group of people. There are some who like to use super heavy set ups for Whitetail. Like 1200 grains. Or people shooting crossbows that want an extra heavy set up. For them, this could be, good use. But it is certainly not intended for the mainstream. They are coming out with 125 grain model, that I already have, that looks really cool. I’m eager to see how it performs as soon as my back heals up.
@fredfeed47665 ай бұрын
I give this broadhead one year on the market and then vanishing.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
It’s a niche market that it appeals to. That’s what Bishop is, fundamentally. They have a few other broadheads that are similar in that regard. They’re not trying to target the main stream.
@littlewoody55395 ай бұрын
I don’t think the head being so thick specially S7 tools steel it would be better with thinner blades .
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Well, the thicker blades are, the wider the “blade” part of that wound channel. That’s a pretty wide path each blade is leaving, not to mention the overall cutting diameter.
@douglasvaughn95305 ай бұрын
Does anybody actually buy Bishop products? I'm surprised they are still around to be honest. I'm sure they make quality stuff but I seriously dought many people are willing to pay what they ask when there are much cheaper products that work just as well or better.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
They have a very niche clientele; not unlike saying, “Does anyone still buy Lamborghinis?”
@omarcurbelo53425 ай бұрын
Defenitely not intended for passthrough.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Haha. Well, for the people that are shooting well over 1000 grains on a Whitetail, it may still get a pass-through, especially with a crossbow. Honestly, I was surprised it penetrated as well as it did in my testing.
@omarcurbelo53425 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures makes sense. Im only shooting 640. So I guess that those really heavy ones might make it happen. Looks cool. Not for me but looks solid. Either way keep bringing content. I like to watch!
@jasonard72275 ай бұрын
cool head but whats it cost like 4 grand lol
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Well, a lot less than that. Definitely a niche market.
@MikeyWoomer5 ай бұрын
What's this lol?? The next line of 500 dollar broadheads from bishop? Pass.. don't even need to see it .. but will always leave a like and we'll see the next one! Peace and love
@LuskArcheryAdventures4 ай бұрын
Ok. Thanks Mikey
@oakpuncherlast26725 ай бұрын
One of the worst broadhead designs I've ever seen
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Ok.
@markb83605 ай бұрын
Judging by the comments, this broadhead is a HUGE marketing and engineering FAILURE.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Well, comments are one thing; performance is another. It’s definitely not a head for most; but for people with very heavy set ups wanting to put a deer down fast, this will do it.
@timbow505 ай бұрын
Just a little over the top. I’ll pass on this one. My 62# DW wouldn’t even get this thing airborne.👍👍
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
:) It’s definitely a very heavy weight set up.
@Fshnmndan955 ай бұрын
How can he justify charging what he does for his products. It's absolutely asinine
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
It’s the cost of using all US steel and machining and hardening, of S7 tool steel. He could go to China and make a similar head for much less, but is die hard on using all US stuff. Many broadheads claim to be all US made, but get their steel in China.
@stephenferguson63635 ай бұрын
Exactly I absolutely refuse to use anything made or produced out side canada or the usa
@Fshnmndan955 ай бұрын
@@stephenferguson6363 ok that's not what I'm referring to at all. It's like $300-$600 for 3-6 broadheads. And around $800 plus for a 1/2 dozen arrows. The dude is smoking crack. I love this channel but the bishop company is is insanely overpriced. Read his bio. The dude is VERY proud of himself and will let you know.
@stephenferguson63635 ай бұрын
@Fshnmndan95 very true I get it.... I'm more of a vpa archery kind of guy around 80-100$/3 American made but won't break your bank account
@dougkiefer70735 ай бұрын
Or Magnus all American Made lifetime warranty and a great price
@josephfolsom20305 ай бұрын
Nah!
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
:)
@leafinitup13 ай бұрын
Bishop may make good products, but their website is absolutely horrible. It's the most confusing and un-user-friendly website for hunting gear. It's a shame.
@LuskArcheryAdventures3 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re totally right. And Sean, the owner knows that full well. He’s got a young family and works as a principal full-time and knows his gift is not in marketing. But he doesn’t have the money to hire somebody to do it for him. He is just pure passion and experience and research and knowledge and intelligence, like few others in the archery community. he does everything himself, but knows his strengths and his weaknesses quite well.
@dougkiefer70735 ай бұрын
Basically it’s a Massive QAD Exodus with a bit of Magnus Buzzcut 🤔🤷♂️ not very innovative imo just a copy of others ideas
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Haha. That’s funny. Neither of those have even close to the same dimensions, materials, or construction. But other than that, they’re similar :)
@inthemountainswithmeachum32565 ай бұрын
A Broadhead you need a second mortgage to pay for General generic tool steel nothing special Oz per ounce is dam near near more expensive than gold
@JohnLuskOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Well, to get that size of S7 tool steel-all bought and machined and hardened with a proprietary process in the USA costs a lot. Many heads say they’re made in the US, but are not.Everyone has different budgets; some can afford it, most cannot. But it sure is intriguing.
@deanbrantley5 ай бұрын
Kinda reminds me of that Big Cut 3. I’m amazed it flew so well.
@wolvesnight5 ай бұрын
Alot of copy cat in that head....but hey that's business I guess....😊
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
:)
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
:)
@scottm22445 ай бұрын
Completely useless lol. You need 90lbs limbs to get that arrow moving 250fps to penetrate 3 inches lol.
@LuskArcheryAdventures5 ай бұрын
Well, there is a niche group of Bowhunters, who like to use very heavy set ups, in order to put the animal down very quickly. There are also crossbow hunters who like to use a very heavy set up for the same reason. In tissue, and with that much momentum, I think the penetration would surprise you.