World’s Smallest Cross Kart Build Pt. 2 | Building SIMPLE DIY Front Suspension!

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In this video we show you how to build simple front suspension on a go kart. This is our Zongshen 190cc 5 speed Cross Kart, aka the world's smallest cross kart, and yard kart destroyer. We wanted to build a vehicle to be the same general size as a simple yard go kart, but have full suspension, a powerful engine, and a 5 speed transmission.
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[@CarsandCameras]

I'm so excited for this build!

[@devivoman]

I really hope this thing sets an unbeatable c&cgp lap time!

[@ianitusluminous8937]

#teamseas..........................

[@TowMaters]

Turning out good... keep up the good work...

[@HighlandViking78]

Loving this build, why not use hand controls instead of pedals? 2 brake levers on the steering wheel for throttle and brake.

[@mrdeathscrn]

With all rights! Looks like it will be able to tear it UP! Hope it lives up to it!

[@shelbykingnfs7216]

I know its been said many times already, but Charles is such a great addition to the C&C crew. Heaps of enthusiasm and energy

[@puddlerat]

I enjoy his childish mind set because its much like my own… Isaac is cool but way chill… john is cool but like laid bad on his humor… Charles is I’m gonna roast you and compliment you in the same sentence and make it funny

[@CiLyXx]

What happened to the other guy?

[@davidkuhn3058]

I've noticed John and Issac have laid back on the humor. Earlier episodes they were a real Hoot! John had that hilarious laugh with Issac's cut up. Either way they are much more serious because its a full time job pitting this great content out constantly. Charles brought back that much needed humor and together the 3 are a sensational KZbin video riot. Absolutely love the show

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Shhh there was never any "other guy". Not after the concrete foundations were poured. ;-)

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Ike and John don't really have the same sense of humor. Charles knows how to talk crap in a joking way, like Ike does. Effectively. This smooths out a lot of err.. awkward. Not saying John don't have a sense of humor. Just not so skilled on the sh*t talkin'. ;-) For that he's a very technical boy and is the major reason we even get to see what them crazy 3 are up to.

[@maxgardina3266]

We race Microsprints here in Pa. We all use a hand shifter with motorcycle type clutch lever attached to it, right foot throttle pedal and left foot brake pedal

[@raysplace6548]

" When Isaac goes to West Virginia, this is all he wears"...😂😂😂.. Charles was such a cool addition to the channel.. Nice work gentlemen.🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Meifesto]

Happy I stayed for that xD

[@joakoc.6235]

22:28 The gap welder certification was really needed there XD

[@thomasallan509]

You should just have brake and throttle peddles on either side and for clutch use a lever attached to the shifter

[@dylanzrim3635]

No.

[@TheRealKoolguy007]

I did this on my go kart, and it works great until a panic brake situation. It's great for steep hill take offs too.

[@MrVein5.0]

@@TheRealKoolguy007 i know that not many care about this but brakes should be dimensioned to be able to overcome the engine power, in case of the worst case, gas hangs and cluch breaks.

[@diegootero1686]

@@dylanzrim3635 Yes.

[@2strokejunkie686]

I second that.

[@haroldsmith1531]

Thank goodness that intern isn’t there anymore. We love Charles!

[@shawnmcintyre4773]

Content & Personality’s 1000000. subs … Here from the beginning, happy for all of you ! Thanks for sharing with all of us .

[@ChangingAperture]

The clip of Charles being Charles at the end was awesome!! That dude is great!!

[@johnreis1872]

Charles is such a great addition to an already amazing channel! Thanks for all the wonderful content and ideas!!

[@200mmonster4]

Some people think these wicked machines are so easy to build . WRONG. ITs trial and error alot of the time. This is a cool build from scratch.

[@yodasbff3395]

Charles is a very likeable and talented kid. 👍👍👍

[@kylefirth7958]

I'm not sure if anyone has said this, I almost thought that front shock system was going down the cantilever suspension route which would have been pretty kool but I love this build!!!!

[@lennym1273]

Same...

[@elesjuan]

I was thinking, if you need room for a pedal box, why not mount the shocks parallel front to back up high and use cantilever linkages..

[@tkskagen]

Charles is the best decision for the Shop & Channel! We need a "Charles in charge" (or "is charged") C&C Long Sleeve Shirt. Because he is usually wearing a long sleeve shirt...

[@wtbeecher]

Ooooooo Charles N Charge! T-shirt needs to happen!

[@BB-iq3xt]

Charles is a great addition to the C and C team

[@VinzClorthokeymasterofGozer]

Charles pops up like a Muppet from behind the toolbox. That got me to watch the whole ad.

[@gerekappo]

Charles was a great addition to the team!!

[@jacobduryea8030]

The ending with clips of Charles is royal gold! 🤣

[@tomlenza2768]

Hanging in there like a hair on a biscuit! Says Isaac! I love these three guys watching them cheers me up if I’m having a rough day. They all came such a long way in their builds. Keep it up guys you’re awesome.

[@tommydmot7725]

A friendly tip for you fabrimacators 👨‍🏭 use cooking spray or anti spatter to keep the metal bb's from damaging your machined or finished surfaces like the ball in a heim joint. We use it all the time here at the steel mill to protect hydraulic rams or even threads 😁 im really stoked to see this bad lil rig shred! Good work 👏

[@peterbayley6793]

Honda Odyssey style steering/throttle/brake setup would eliminate foot pedals with the clutch on the gear lever, more safety also to have wrist restraints maybe??? Would then just need some foot rests instead of the pedals, easier to brace yourself in the seat also, great job on the build so far its going to be a sweet ride.

[@thesuperjank6109]

I agree, controls on the steering wheel would be very handy in this situatioj

[@bhadventures3248]

I really think the Honda Odyssey setup is ugly they should try to figure a way out with pedals

[@Tyresong]

how about a hydraulic handbrake.. Rally car style, copied by drift dicks. Save the left pedal for the shift mechanism

[@jeffmoleskivintageiceracin5935]

Anybody else have to do a double take at Ike’s drawing on the white board? 🤣. Keep up the good work guys. Love the builds

[@lifeononeweel3008]

MORE SNOWMOBILE CONTENNT!!!!!

[@dragonslyer74]

I completely agree with adding Charles to the crew 👍 he's such a good guy and I know I could have a beer with all of ya'll super easy.

[@ridgesteele7103]

Congrats on the 1 million subs.

[@chrismacdonald8846]

When Ike Mentioned buster that brought me back to my childhood watching myth busters thank you ike

[@tkskagen]

Y'all have come a LONG WAY from working in John's parents garage! And MANY new tools to your advantage. The Welding Table set-up and the Rouge-Fab Bender have proven to be the tools you cannot live without. 👏 CONGRATULATIONS 👏

[@joeyrutherford1790]

You guys should do a build off!!!! Keep up the great work.

[@jakesizemore5885]

I like 👍 this group of guys way better than before looks like they have a great time keep up with the good work

[@stylze5767]

I love the brainstorming

[@WreckedRevival]

Dang that thing is going to be awesome! I just got a kids 4 wheeler for free from a buddy that I've been thinking about chopping up to do something like this.

[@stonedrooster8391]

Charles looks like a baseball player

[@FoolOfATuque]

I placed an order with your sponsor and man was it painful! But I’m happy to support a Texas business even if they’re in Dallas. 😂

[@RJDCR]

...This week on Orange County Cars & Cameras......koolest build ever

[@x_ghost_ll4637]

I don’t know about anyone else but I like it when they include their thought process or when they brainstorm ideas it makes the video longer and I like it because I understand what’s happening and how they do it

[@antivagabondbuilds369]

Is it just me or is Charles really good and funny with making small part of the videos

[@nybergsgarage]

not just you, he's a naturally comedic fellow, and entertaining to observe.

[@ernestthomas3965]

LOL🤣 The frame was flexing more than the suspension when he was bouncing

[@smiles4miles208]

Steering wheel gas and brake just like an odyssey✨😜

[@edwerts7096]

This thing is turning out to be really cool! I look forward to the next video.

[@Knee-ko]

Love how Owen gets to do the hard yards during the Bespoke promo. 👍👍🤣🤣

[@jonathanjames1864]

Just an idea, use a handlebar for the steering, brakes & the throttle. It might solve the pedal fitment issues.

[@g_compo8639]

That would make it very hard for steering all it needs is brake peddle and a throttle pedal. Then hand shifter with clutch. If any crashes happen a steering wheel is far safer due to your legs wont be trapped under the handle bar and risk snapping a leg if you shift out the seat or risk them puncturing your body if the crumble from a roll over. Handle bars belong on bikes dude

[@BradVentureAZ]

I'd love to see you guys build a snow blower engine !! They are a little different because of the recycled hot air system, and a couple other little things I'll let you figure out. A good 9hp snow blower is pretty cheap, or I bet one of your viewers would donate one, and then I'd love to see you guys do a COMPLETE engine build. Port and polish, valve honing, big bore stroker build !!!!

[@lukecombs5242]

Boy that engine is going to be warm on your legs and balls 🤣and I’m very interested to see what y’all do with the exhaust beings that you have very limited room but it’s a cool build 👍🤙🏻

[@kieranmorrison4348]

I love the Charles episodes!

[@sandmanbub]

Charles is like; "Ok, any way you want it, I'll make it work".

[@kevinsellsit5584]

I got really excited when Isaac said "torsion bars". I had a 1/4 midget with beautiful simple torsion bar front suspension, circa 1950/60s. It was super clean and still worked well when I sold the kart in 2008.

[@thedr309]

I wish you guys would PLEASE do some research on shock angle and how coil springs work........ PLEASE

[@monstermanx1223]

I was thinking the same thing… But it’ll be fiiiine

[@Root_T]

Why? what do you think they don't know?

[@thedr309]

@@Root_T sir if you can't see the things wrong maybe you should do some research as well, wrong angle, wrong placement, wrong springs, use the right springs and the right shocks mounted in the proper location would vastly improve the ride, and the durability of the shocks and springs.

[@FarmerFpv]

@@thedr309 If you think you're going to get a plush ride with Go power sports fixed shocks you're in for a surprise. They have no rebound or compression adjustment on the upper or lower. Yes, I agree it will help with longevity having the correct angles and also help with the correct lax rebound unsprung and sprung sag but they will also need better shocks as well. You have to remember these guys are bush-hippie-engineers which is why i get a kick out of watching them, lol. All in all, it will work and still be fun. They will feel the back pain when they're in their 40s though, lol.

[@thedr309]

@@FarmerFpv I never said a thing about a plush ride I know all to well what they are working with but correct placement and angle would be a huge improvement I never expected a professionally engineered chassis but I do expect some thought to be used been watching these guys for a long time

[@nothuntersmith]

the one clip w charles testing the suspension for the first time i think was my favorite card and cameras moment ever. good guy and good mechanic

[@carbide1968]

The brainstorming sessions are great even if the results are Ridiculous 😀

[@Scott-Ferguson]

Can't wait to see this thing run.

[@danielkerr4100]

I love this channel so much. 🇬🇧

[@randbradbury]

The crossbar you'll be welding between the front suspension towers will be PERFECT for lights & cameras!

[@christophermorin9036]

Yes, it's begging for a GoPro Mount.

[@sandmanbub]

Bet you could use a jack shaft with sprockets at both ends to power the wheels of an independently suspended rear end... Love to see you create something I suggested . One other thing, I love your commercials lol. You guys make watching advertisements enjoyable. Whoop!

[@FJ80Coop]

John,you could be making extra jack by using that plasma table to design and cut out bracketry for the subscribers at an honest cost foe their own builds... Most one off brackets or pair of brackets would cost a person well over 100bux from any welding/ fab shop and lots of subs cant afford that kind of money for a few brackets... You'd be doing folks a solid as well as helping yourself out if you simply doubled the materials costs,and your time to lay out and hit start and be saving people a chunk while helping them realize their goals and builds...

[@carlowens3424]

These are the best videos new builds I love this!!

[@JohnHill-jm7tm]

You got this Old Man excited. Looking forward to seeing the completion. Love your videos. 🛵🧔💝💝💝

[@richardsteele6776]

Working the magic. You guys are awesome.

[@rwbnatureadventure3876]

Lol Ike’s drawing on the white board looked like a twig and berries when he started hahahaha

[@Nuchols_]

Charles needs his own channel

[@freethinker750]

A cars and camera's limited edition production cart for market would be awesome👍👍👍

[@patrickhartman6818]

This cart is going to be in the top 2 on the grand prix times

[@joewoodard2513]

Cantilever Suspension would be SICK.

[@davidstephens8247]

I love your all builds

[@g50stang72]

This project is looking good. You guys should make three identical karts and have a race day.

[@RCLAND771]

You guys should build three of these. And I don't know maybe have a race?

[@gsfriendlytreesmmj1165]

That is an excellent start I can't wait to see what you all do with this frame

[@joshuaborchardt4355]

3:52 that’s a LOT of flex right at the Jack shaft

[@joshkelly1939]

Bro I literally watch u guys everyday before bed. U guys r awesome ppl. The knowledge is awesome. The projects r creative. Like super cool all around.

[@livinginavandownbytheriver2349]

That ending was hilarious!!!!!

[@P8FPV]

I have missed out on welding until around 6mths ago never to old to learn to weld I'm 42 today 😉

[@ezmac622]

Another great video. Thanks guys!

[@tjnucnuc]

What a cool little build.

[@antoniorivera6187]

Its looking awesome guys can’t wait to see the finish product 👍🏻👍🏻stay safe guys see ya on the next video 😁

[@bretwill9417]

I've been watching yall for years and I finally figured out who Ike reminds me of.... Will Ferrell

[@jacobbreazeale1816]

This thing is gonna be so good in the corners. It's gonna be a ripper!🔥🔥🔥

[@nashguy207]

Congrats for achieving 1 Million subscribers!! That is great guys!!!

[@LouDog-bx1ep]

This is a really cool build, I'd like to see a similar mini crosskart build but witth IRS

[@darrellkelly7614]

Ingenious how you 3 work together.

[@the_gang223]

The frame binds like crazy

[@RearEngineShop]

This is a cool project! It’s looking good guys. 🤘

[@stephenhuber1079]

In that bespoke box the first thing you opened was the "weekender". I used to carry my cqrpentry hand tools and such back in the '80s in a bag just like that except mine was ivory colored. I still have it and store carpentry tools in it.

[@loosescrewlab3605]

its goin to be awesome!!!

[@coltonupchurch4368]

Right on right on broz

[@colincummings1954]

you guys are crazy!!! i could never do that!!! amazing!

[@adamnahtankyoulol3499]

this thing is goin to be sick!

[@EJ-74]

Can't wait to see this thing rip Good job guys 🔥👍✌️

[@isaacvicentegutierrez3874]

Buster for hire and currently studying for welding for hire all I need is food for pay😃👍👍

[@newbornlog2789]

You guys need to trade Greg (rbg) a CNC for a Siegmund weld table. Only reason I say that is his frame making abilities have multiplied exponentially

[@RattleCanCustoms]

Oh this is awesome!

[@user-vf7um3nd8d]

I watch each issue with great pleasure

[@r.j.7898]

Looking forward to it!!

[@48vdcwrld]

Looking good guys...

[@PunkCoverMoose]

Man, I was on the fence about this build the 1st episode but I love where it’s going now. I really think you guys should consider a top A arm for the front suspension. I would also delete the live axle and do (my Terminology might be off) 2 trailing arms in the back. run 2 chains on each side for each rear wheel off that jack shaft. You know it would be sick if this little guy had independent suspension!!

[@jamesmcgee9279]

The front and rear suspension has a unique design to it. My only concern is in the rear. The mid-chassis allows for the main chassis frame to drag below the mid to rear suspension frame. With a hard enough landing, you could do some serious damage to your lower back and the chassis. Alas, I hope it holds up.

[@LAKERAT_YT]

This kart is so F-ing sweet! I WANT ONE LOL

[@cliffpalermo]

Love this build!

[@coryraynor8393]

Luv the build

[@desertratstoys]

I cant wait to see this one on the grand prix!

[@tybchance6918]

I’ve been watching you guys for so long and your still here it’s crazy I’m a senior in high school now and I’ve been watching y’all since I was in 6th grade

[@richardmoll5618]

same dude, these guys have been a favorite of mine since then.

[@thomasmccall1076]

The shock angle on those front shocks wow

[@dangerousepower24]

I’d love to take a trip out there and build a mean machine with y’all

[@michaelsimmons6138]

It looks badass good job men keep up the good work 🤘