The Age of Tiwanaku: What They Aren't Telling You

[@Hemrahban]

some of the comments of unchartedX videos say stuff like: "i love your calm and mindful explaination" while that guy is rambling on, verbally waving his jazz hands in my face. i love your calm and mindful explaination... of historical data, resulting from methodical and empirical study

[@bujfvjg7222]

Yeah computer studies, he hasn't been in the field you momo.

[@hedgehog3180]

He comes off as unbearably smug and condescending to me and I don't just say that because I disagree. There are debunking channels like Professor Dave that I don't particularly enjoy for similar reasons though at least Dave has some justification for his annoyance.

[@glenhayman8722]

thank you for trying to maintain integrity in a world that believes in the fiction over actual science

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

Where's the integrity. He claims Uncharted X ignores the last 50 years of archaelogical research, then cites Uncharted X talking about archaelogical research from 2012. This man is a liar.

[@AdamMann3D]

Hey, normal person just passing through. You're doing good work. These ancient aliens people Joe Rogan is elevating are making everyone stupid. Keep it up.

[@jeffconway1953]

As someone who had in the past been taken in by the con artist I very much appreciate your work. All I ever wanted to do was learn new things and the con artist took advantage of that to line their pockets all the while making their audience more ignorant in the process. Being an agent of ignorance is a crime against humanity and your work is the proof not just they are wrong but that misleading people was and is their specific intent. Thank you and please keep it up.

[@jeffconway1953]

@@wag0NE Why do you presume that I haven't formed my own opinion based on the available evidence? Is that a gas light?

[@stevefaure415]

It's an old, old story. People have been taking advantage of our innate yearning for some greater, more mysterious truth from time immemorial, either for fame and attention or else to bilk them of some money. They say that in the time of Jesus there was a messiah on every street corner. UFOs, Alt-History, giants, sea monsters, the list is endless. It's sad that in our quest for a greater mystery we dismiss the incredible accomplishments of those who came before us. It's good there are some channels like this that not just present the history we understand but directly refute the claims of these snake oil salesmen.

[@MarvinMonroe]

Who conned you? Did you actually give the person money?

[@sidneyleejohnson]

@@MarvinMonroe Time is money...and when we watch youtube, youtube gives them money....its an indirect scam. That said they do sell tours and the folks that join the tours are certainly directly feeding the artists...

[@isutrikanda]

Yup, you are right Jeff. Its the "Con way". 🤣

[@wenkeadam362]

Thank you for sharing this thorough analysis. At 78 I'm old enough to have seen countless examples of how fast younger people forget about the ingenious technologies of the very recent past, even from 50 or 100 years ago. It seems to be very easy to underestimate the skills and knowledge of dedicated craftspeople and the power of the passage of time. The many "mysterious ancient" explanations found in KZbin videos are seductive at first sight until someone like you comes forth with serious facts and recent investigations that make sense of it all. Without having to resort to aliens, giants or more advanced civilizations from outside to explain what very capable local people have done. We must continue to combat ignorance and racism whenever and wherever they continue to appear. Thank you again for your tireless efforts.

[@hervigdewilde3599]

So true... There's a video on YT that showed how, in the 19th Century, analogue computers were used to calculate (using integration!!!) the timing of tides at different locations around the World. Gears, wheels and levers doing complex calculus - who'd have thunk it...?!? "It must have been aliens..." 😀

[@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191]

Excellent take down! I'm tired of unprofessionals with their twisted agendas! Thank you for your considerable efforts that should never have been required.

[@Rockstarjerry]

Thank you for continuing to make videos in the myths series. I was brought to your channel because I was curious what the "mainstream" evidence is on many of these topics. I had first watched unchartedx channel before yours. I really appreciate your claim by claim rebuttal of unchartedx. As well as your straightforward explanations of the counter evidence. I am a nuclear engineer and am generally frustrated by the emotional reaction of the general public to a technology I very much believe in based on the available scientific evidence. A heart felt thank you for helping me avoid being taken for a similar ride with respect to the historical record. I really appreciate the work you're doing here and in all your videos.

[@1lightheaded]

The general population useing amaizing technology to slag technology is hilarious.

[@toniwilson6210]

Just a poor college student still, but I always make sure to leave a like and share on these videos. I love any academics out there who are sincerely helping to combat sensationalized and propagandized historical accounts.

[@erinmcgraw5208]

Amen to that! 💙

[@juniorballs6025]

+ 1 to that sentiment 😎

[@Chris.Davies]

You mean the lies, the frauds, the scams, and the weaponised falsehoods. They have absolutely nothing to do with history, and everything to do with making money from the despicable KZbin algorythm, which promotes the lies used to extract money from ignorant people. *sigh* Dr. Miano should be publishing much of his stuff on Curiosity Stream: it is certainly of high enough quality.

[@juniorballs6025]

@@Chris.Davies if you've not done so already, you should make that curiosity stream part a standalone post 👍 It would be great if the Doctor was rewarded upon the quality of his videos (impeccable pretty much absolutely) rather than the whims of an algorithm 😎 Take care

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

"poor" in money rich in Knowledge and Critical Thinking...

[@podemosurss8316]

9:04 As a native Spanish it's enormously funny hearing him say that while he features those two signs as background. Specially the one in the left. I'll just give a translation: Left sign: Tiwanaku The capital city of the Tiwanaku Empire on its classical era constituted a densely populated centralised estate with a superior command chain, under which artisans and farmers that supplied a diversity of goods harvested from different ecological strata CHRONOLOGY: Rural Period (I and II): 1580 BC - 133 CE Early Urban Period (III): 133 - 374 CE Classical Period (IV): 374 - 900 CE Imperial Period (V): 900 - 1200 CE Right sign: Pumapunku The biggest Tiwanaku temple found up to this date can be seen to the east. Inmense polished blocks, the biggest of which weights 132 Tons. 3 platforms built on top of ashlars, a superior platform with U-shaped floor colored in ocher red, sewer canals joined with copper strings and an inferior yard. So for me hearing him say "there has been considerable controversy just around when they were originally built" while the image portrays a picture that reads when they were originally built got me thinking like "bro, just check the freaking sign, it's written right there"...

[@rotflolextreme]

The controversy is ABOUT the dates on the sign. Those dates are not what other people have speculated, therefore, the controversy is in the disagreement about the dates.

[@AloisWeimar]

“Bro just watch the freaking video, it’s all right there”

[@iexist.imnotjoking5700]

@@Ge1Ri4 It was the other dude who claimed there was controversy over the dates. Don't comment if you didn't watch the video, or the part of the video.

[@podemosurss8316]

@@AloisWeimar I'm watching the video. I just found funny that he said there was controversy over the dates while showing a sign that includes the consensus dates.

[@unrealuknow864]

@@rotflolextreme nobody worth listening to disputes the dates, or support Uncharteds suppositions. He is a clown.

[@TurtleTube123]

It's really alarming to see how the general distrust people have towards authority is leveraged and converted into a distrust towards academia and science. At least that's how I interpret this phenomenon. I must add that yes, we should question authority, and we should question the scientific consensus. But, both endavours require critical and careful thinking, combined with as much factual verified data as can be obtained. Without that, we inevitably quickly adopt the most comfortable and indulgent fantasty presented by the first person in line to take advantage of us. Thanks for the video

[@StoneInMySandal]

That’s exactly what’s going on. Pseudoscience and pseudohistory both leverage the innate distrust authority to advance a narrative of victimization. The people promulgating lost advanced civilization/ancient astronauts ideas portray themselves as the oppressed, just like ‘you’. Perhaps most concerning is that what they’re doing feeds back into anti-authority sentiment in social matters. Followers of radical political ideologies almost always also adhere to pseudoscientific and pseudohistorical beliefs. A phenomenon brought to its most extreme conclusion in the interwar and WWII eras.

[@TurtleTube123]

@@StoneInMySandal Belief is a pricable commodity... the priests got that first lol. Easy way to make money. Now we have so many kinds of them, guising themselves as 'science' often times, but selling the same basic things: what people want to hear and is attractive to believe in. That's the first thing a real scientist must learn, to resist his own particular inclinations and desires when it comes to discovering anything about the objective truth.

[@jacqueslemiere]

academic science is no an "authority"..as ANYONE can challenge it..and "become" it. i don't know what actually alarm me... it appalls me.. I think people" actually distrust politicians.. and as science is often publicly funded.. they throw the baby with the water of the bath. and i n a sense they are right science should not be funded with tax money.. there is a risk there..

[@dmandork]

It's warranted. Have you heard the Alzheimers plaque research was faked and billions wasted on alzheimers research because of it??

[@stephenphillips4984]

@@TurtleTube123 How about also resisting the prevalent paradigm in which his professors taught him to think and interpreting the data for himself? Archaologists never do that - that's why alternative archaeology arose out of a disgust for mainstream research that forces everyone to conform to the same view of ancient history even though there are plenty of artifacts that do not fit it - in fact even contradict it.

[@bref5532]

Damn! I really enjoyed the UncharteredX video, but I enjoyed your video with explanations based on up to date research even better. Thanks again.

[@valritz1489]

Honestly, what's most fascinating to me is how this video demonstrates the "evidence" selection process conducted by people who otherwise present themselves as reasonable and rational actors. The most believable figures and diagrams are snipped out of more outlandish publications, aligned with a pre-existing antipathy for the "intellectual elite," and then presented as a hidden body of evidence. UnchartedX's quoted description of his being a "middle way" position speaks to the motives underlying this practice. By positioning the mainstream and the ancient aliens crowd as two diametrically opposed and equally wrong poles of equal weight, he's presenting his ideas as the reasonable approach. The problem is, empirical data doesn't compromise. It can be revised, retested, recontextualized, reinterpreted, but there are certain things that the data cannot support. One person claiming the sky is blue and the other person claiming the sky is gray does not automatically mean that the sky is slate; it can mean that one observer is colorblind, or that the data for one observer was collected in Seattle. EDIT: Okay, just got to the end and his rationale for dismissing the mainstream evidence, and it's... The biggest reach imaginable. Definitely didn't stick the landing if he's trying to claim that the rate of carbon decay is more falsifiable than painting a bullseye around a solstice.

[@Eyes_Open]

He probably produces some very tasty cherry pies with his extensive picking.

[@turtleboy1188]

Based

[@Eyes_Open]

@@turtleboy1188 ?

[@colinhay1666]

I haven't watched the whole video, but I would warn against a full cloth belief in "empirical data." Many people seem to think that that means the data completely, objectively true period. On science, you have to control variables that exist or could exist that may alter the data. Scientists eliminate as many variables as possible when coming to an ultimate conclusion. However, the more we learn about the cosmos, especially via quantum physics, the more it seems that the conditions and complexity of phenomena and matter in the universe can manifest in nearly an infinite amount of ways. Therefore, in any given experiment, the number of potential variables is nearly infinite. We simply can't know what they all may be or how or if they affect data. And we certainly can't control for all of these variables. So even things in science that seem super true, are really our best possible guesses so far, given the available evidence. I think it's important to contextualize things in this way, rather than commiting to the belief that a scientific fact or theory is objectively true. Otherwise adherence to the scientific method becomes exercise in faith. Which I believe is a dangerous road to go down, given the stated goals of the scientific method and all disciplines that derive data from it. I hope I described that clearly. Just something to think about.

[@valritz1489]

@@colinhay1666 While yes, it's never going to be possible to actually reach "objective" truth, we definitely can tell that there are certain hypotheses that are further from it than others. You are correct in a technical sense, and certainly on a worldview level. Trust me, I'm a rhetoric major. Eventually you have to stop having an existential crisis over the revelation that there is no such thing as "true meaning" in language, that no utterance can ever actually cause the unaltered transmission of ideas from one mind to another, and accept that humanity will continue to make do as we always have: making ever-more-complex ooga-booga noises until the pretty girl ooga-boogas back.

[@philthycat1408]

I’ve started just to wait until you’ve made a video of a subject such as this ,to watch anything else to do with the subject. Saves me hours. Thank you so much.

[@lastofmygeneration]

Dr. Miano!!! This is, by FAR, the best video I have ever seen covering this fantastic site. Bravo sir!

[@almitrahopkins1873]

Whenever I see one of these “ancient civilization” videos, I am always reminded of a favorite quote from Neil DeGrasse Tyson when asked about aliens building the pyramids. He said simply, “just because you’re not clever enough to figure out how they did it doesn’t mean they weren’t clever enough to figure out how to do it.” Whenever you look at things through that filter, you start looking at how you would do what they did with what they had, instead of trying to say it was impossible without modern tools. That makes dismissing aliens or a missing high-tech culture rather easy.

[@Slipperygecko390]

Its like me saying and F22 raptor can't have been made by humans since I can't make one.

[@str.77]

Tyson? That's replacing one pseudo-historian with another.

[@amosbackstrom5366]

​@@str.77 ??

[@RUcookoo]

Yes and monkey wrenches do rot in thousands of years floods and all ;)

[@J_Z913]

Love this video. I visited Bolivia when I was a kid and have been fascinated with their history ever since. I think the point you make at the end of the video is by far the most important. The native Aimara and Quechua peoples have long been overlooked, exploited, and denigrated. It is important to study and credit these people with their own work, as simple as that may sound. For some reason, many of the ancient high technology folks seem to focus their attention on places that aren't in Europe or where white people built. Although I doubt that these people are active racists, I think it's fair to say that they are preying on racist attitudes prevalent on our society. This is why videos like this are so important. You expose the lies, and explore the truth. That's how we mend past crimes of archeologists, of which this is but a small part. Thank you for making this video.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Many thanks to you!

[@drunvert]

I completely disagree with your belief in racism and that white people consider ancient things being built to have been built by white people. That's just nonsense

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@drunvert Um...what are you talking about?

[@drunvert]

@@WorldofAntiquity responding to JZ. A post.

[@drunvert]

@Philosophy_First philosophy over reality.

[@jellyrollthunder3625]

Dr. Miano, I often sleep with your videos playing on repeat, lol. Your last video on UnchartedX absolutely changed my life, I can't understate that. You do amazing work, thank you so much for shining light on these guys for their audiences to see. I spent so many embarrassing years reposting videos from UnchartedX, Ham Grandcock, and others. I came damn close to starting my own channel (which I still might do), but I feel so much better armed to do so thanks to your videos, Stephan Milo, Ancient Architects, and others. I'm also THRILLED that Matt from Ancient Architects actually responded to you and updated his views and tactics. I always knew he was one of the real ones. Keep up the good work!

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thanks, Jelly Roll!

[@jellyrollthunder3625]

​@Ryan I was just completely hoodwinked by a bunch of sloppy tactics that I should have immediately seen right through, but I had been such a lover of ancient history and archaeology that these overly romanticized interpretation got me accepting things that i probably would not have ever accepted otherwise. So 5 minutes into Dr. Miano's last UnchartedX debunking video I was going through every single one of my coping mechanisms and conversation stoppers until I was just plain embarrassed that I was so caught up in this "there's an academic conspiracy to hide the truth" bullshit that it took me more than an instant to just consider the counter-evidence and stop just looking for a wild interpretation that "feels good". Science isn't for the hyperbole addicts or the cataclysm junkies. Unfalsifiable theories are intellectually dishonest. Hancockian dogma produces an innate intellecual distonesty about one's theories and a disgust for the academic establishment effectively preventing them from ever looking into any of the counter-evidence whatsoever. It's carefully designed that way.

[@yewtoob2007]

"Ham Grandcock" [mic drop]

[@joearchuleta7538]

@@yewtoob2007 "Ham Smallcock " (second mic drop)

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@joearchuleta7538 Graysham Hack-crock {:o:O:}

[@chikensaku]

So happy to see a new video! Thanks, Dr. Miano!

[@krisphidelity]

I love your style. When academics ridicule, scorn and dismiss the alternative history folks it only reinforces the ‘mainstream archeology doesn’t want you to know the truth’ trope. I find the archeological story to be far more interesting than the alternative historians can suppose.

[@bujfvjg7222]

Anyone who calls themselves Doctor simply because they have a doctorate, is an egotistical bafoon.

[@roan2288]

I´m doing a masters in geology, hearing the geological claims made in this is like nails on a chalk board. Dating erosion like c´mon man extremely difficult and you ain´t gonna do it by looking at a rounded rock.

[@bujfvjg7222]

Dating erosion, isn't erosion pretty much all there is to learn about rocks, well apart from their formations and compositions...

[@chuckdoom9653]

@@roan2288 what do you think about Louis Agassi?

[@chucklearnslithics3751]

It's obviously a ton of work, but I love your history mythbusting approach. I think you're carving out a nice niche in history communication on YT with it. Keep up the good work.

[@htlein]

@chucklearnslithics3751 "It's obviously a ton of work, but I love your history mythbusting approach." Suggest you look at the referenced by Protzen! He suggests that he and those before him found an incredibly complex form of templates for building blocks. What is NOT mentioned is the fact that the medium used was an incredibly hard basalt rock. I suggest that you look at some of the UncharteredX videos with the same "myth-busting approach" you seem to adhere to!

[@HOBBITSODYSSEY]

@@htlein UncharteredX hahahaha

[@MossyMozart]

@@htlein - Wishful thinking on your part, not critical thinking.

[@htlein]

@@MossyMozart" Wishful thinking on your part, not critical thinking." Can't reply to this since there was no reference to any comment i had made.

[@Eyes_Open]

I was just looking up this info earlier today due to comments in the UnsupportedX channel.. Great coincidence. Thanks for providing (again) some good learning!!!

[@Eye_of_Horus]

We seem to frequent the same channels and have similar names. Keep wondering if I already know you. Lol

[@Eyes_Open]

@@Eye_of_Horus Yes we do cross paths often on awesome sites. But this is really my first account name so unless you also reside in Canada, I think you would not know me previously.

[@TheAntiburglar]

As an archaeology student right now, it's always amazing to me how hard people have to work to deliberately misrepresent the disciplines of archaeology and history, particularly radiometric dating. Uncharted x is certainly well practiced in spreading misinformation, but it would be nice if someone with that many followers would use their influence more positively.

[@jellyrollthunder3625]

but that's not as profitable

[@thelastone9803]

If he doesn't milk that cash cow who will?

[@gregrhodes565]

So you do not think Randall Carlson’s theory of a Catastrophe between 11,600 years ago and 12,800 years ago created a huge earthly flood that may have raise C levels up to 400 feet worldwide...???

[@spinnymathingy3149]

I think Uncharted X is completely positive in his message, whereas the presenter in this video only ever makes negative videos, never “adding” to contribute at all. I’d have more respect for this chap if he actually added to history and science

[@joeblow8982]

@@spinnymathingy3149 you're actually tarded

[@ragnarosthefirelord8662]

I love learning about pre-colonial American cultures, such an underexplored topic in typical history education. Thanks Dr. Miano! edit: It really is appalling how pseudohistorians reiterate harmful racist pseudoscience in their willful ignorance. I appreciate that David highlighted how the site has been appropriated by exterior powers from the Incan Empire all the way to the recent Bolivian government in ways which disregard the prowess and dedication that such a site reveals about the people(s) who built it.

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Miano in Spanish means: "My anus". Facts

[@customsongmaker]

You love the racist idea that brown people built all these structures and then just forgot how to build more.

[@NotAnnaJones]

The harmful stereotypes are created by those that are desperate to deny reality to virtue signal.

[@NotAnnaJones]

Here’s the problem. Your researchers are starting from the premise that the natives in the area built this within the last 2500 years. They do not allow for any other evidence to point to anything else. Like the fact the is no known way for the natives of that time to construct these massive blacks of rock with such precision. They also didn’t have the science and math to engineer the complex. There was obviously a much earlier civilization that built the complex and the natives found it much later. AND the native people say the same thing in their stories. So you are being raciest by not believing them when they say they found the complex and that the complex was built by the “gods” (the advanced people before them).

[@MossyMozart]

@@NotAnnaJones - You have copy-pastaed this several times now. Multi-postings will not make it true. If there are alternate hypotheses AND you can provide evidence for the same, archeologists will study your data and if they are bona fide, will welcome them. --------------- Your problem is that the claims so far seem to be antics that fly in the face known evidence. If you want to prove something so outré, it is up to you to provide iron-clad proof. You have a big, uphill climb. Do not blame scientists who have worked for years to prove what is now known because your claims are so eccentric. Hush up and get to work searching for that iron-clad evidence, if you can.

[@PoliticalFuturism]

Another fantastic video. These videos are informative in many ways - debunking the cranks, and propagating the facts. Thank you Dr. Miano!

[@SunnyE_Mechwarrior]

Again Bravo, I love how you show that modern archeology and new dating techniques and the process that they much have overlapping evidence such as radiocarbon dating, obsidian hydration, thermoluminescence, dendrochronology, historical records, mean ceramic dating, Stratigraphic dating and pipe stem dating has lead to more precise and supported dating of sites. The old days of Heinrich Schliemann , Sir Arthur Evans or Howard Carter did bring amazing discoveries and pushing forward Archeology but many were more treasure hunters than archeologist and did as much harm as well as good. We see it as a challenge today, between Biblical Archeology vs Academic Archeology as it has a clear biases that can influence findings and interpretations.

[@nox5555]

well some of those dating methods are pretty much bunk science... Radiocarbon dating does not work well and all fiddling around makes it much worse. we use C14 to monitor sooil health and have destroy any chance to date anything in the last 200 years with it. It also only dates the last time somebody was there and not when something was build. Luminescence is much better for dating and cheaper, but for some reason we dont get much data published... we also dont get even more advanced DNA based data. ITs very impressive what eDNA can do with a bit of old dirt.

[@chris93122]

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate seeing such good content on the subject on KZbin. I remember looking at subjects like this 5 years ago or so on KZbin and it being pure craziness. You are a really incredible presenter in addition to knowing the facts so comprehensively, and I learn a lot from your public speaking style.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thank you. I appreciate hearing that!

[@unrealuknow864]

@@WorldofAntiquity many of us greatly appreciate your videos. This one particularly was so detailed and gave so much physics evidence to support the dating. Thank you for the hard work.

[@OdysseyofEmpires]

Really thorough academic insights are gold....

[@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg]

The words 'mainstream' and 'orthodox' to belittle others is an immediate red flag.

[@1lightheaded]

Assholes with no accredication spreading missinformation is two red flags .

[@stephenphillips4984]

The "mainstream" (i.e., the academic world) is facing opposition from non-mainstream research because people became impatient and disgusted with the dishonest way in which university researchers passed off feats of precise stone work as the product of copper chisels and stone pounders, when five minutes of conversation with a professional mason or engineer would have persuaded him that only a powered machine tool could have done the job. So debunkers of alternative archaeology continue to gloss over huge problems that their discipline cannot explain by nitpicking their competitors, hoping to discredit them, but, instead, missing the mark every time.

[@laurentdrozin812]

I find it remarkable that many on the Internet use the word "mainstream" as an insult. Why is that? Mainstream is vetted by many, and shown to work. I want a mainstream plumber and a mainstream brain surgeon. Why not a mainstream archeologist?

[@AloisWeimar]

Everyone always wants a Mainstream Lawyer for some reason, even pseudo-intellectuals. Graham Hancock sure loves his Mainstream Investment Portfolio and his Mainstream Bank Account. His sure like to be paid in Mainstream Currency for some strange reason too, weird! no?

[@ecta9604]

I think that there’s a political split developing between establishment and anti-establishment groups that’s similar to the left-right divide, although this split it doesn’t necessarily break down along left-right lines.

[@noodlesmetal]

I don't trust mainstream plumbers. Always trying push the narrative that water flows to the lowest point. That's what the government want you to believe but I watched a youtube video that shows this is false.

[@TheMoneypresident]

Allows under educated to feel smarter. If their wacky interpretation is possible they feel great. They are more likely to get suckered into a tour.

[@AllistairNeil]

Very true. Problem is the aha! moment whenever there is a glitch in the mainstream, immediately sensationalised. Reminds me of the Tesla fire hazard glitch. It was actually Chevrolet that had a battery problem but when one or two Teslas catch fire it's all over. Enormously funny when most people are driving around with controlled explosions under the hood and a tank of highly flammable liquid on board!😅

[@Sp4mMe]

The language UnchartedX used in this video honestly is very telling. He seems to absolutely love using words like "must", without any argument presented as to why he perceives a conclusion as absolutely necessary: just stating a claim very strongly seems to be sufficient for him. You can right away tell the difference to "mainstream academia" who even when 99+% sure would "likely" use words like "probably" or "approximately" or "as current evidence seems to imply", "within the range of error" etc. Absolute certainty you only get when you've made up your mind no matter what (or are a Sith, which at this point those fake history youtubers might as well start believing in as well).

[@ayushgaurincredible]

Always admired the way you put valid research and debunk the myth all around the globe.

[@nicholashurst780]

Thanks to this narrator's accent, I'm suddenly reminded of the youtuber Cogito who when talking about the pre-colonial history of Australia said a desert seemed to be defined as a place Europeans couldn't grow wheat and sheep

[@garethmartin6522]

It amazes me that these conspiracy theorists can imaginer a vast, orchestrated campaign of denial by academia, and yet not realise that this "mysteries of the unexplained" stuff is a huge publishing industry that must rake in billions of dollars every year. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@nakoma5]

When Ben dismissed carbon dating for the complex but then used it as evidence for the age of other things just did it for me. Like, helloooo??? xD Seriously enjoy these debunking videos and also longer formats. You have a nice balance of shorts and long videos.

[@stephenphillips4984]

If I carbon date a ham sandwich 1000 years after a visitor to Stonehenge dropped it, do I get a reliable date for when the site was built? No, all I get is when the sandwich was dropped. Ben correctly dismissed this form of dating of the erection of STONE megaliths as inaccurate because stone cannot itself be carbon dated. However, he does take it seriously when the organic matter that was carbon dated obviously appeared at about the same time as the associated buildings, etc. So you are guilty of sloppy thinking - just as archaeologists are when they assume that the people who left the carbon-dated organic matter were the same people as those who built all the temples, etc. NOT SO!. They may have migrants who merely discovered them left in ruins by a previous people.

[@NickanM]

Finally, _I'm so happy to see debunking channels pop up. These "Forbidden Archaeology" channels has done a lot of damage during many years, I remember seeing some as early as 2005. Thank you so very, very much for your work!_

[@surfk9836]

I read Chariots of the Gods in the 70's. This spawned the whole Ancient Aliens craze. It was crap then as it is today.

[@vincent080888]

KZbin needs more of this type of presentation.

[@merfishsandwich691]

I love how the old "archeologists" ignore completely that the European explorers and colonists who went to the region hundreds of years before them basically wiped out these cultures. Of course they have scant populations who have forgotten or abandoned their ancient cities and technology. They're probably the descendants of people who lived in rural areas that weren't affected by the disease and violence of the European conquest.

[@customsongmaker]

I'm glad the Europeans freed the people of South America from the slavery and cannibalism that had oppressed them for all of their history.

[@895599]

It is so nice to hear clear and articulate thought presented rather than finger pointing and assumption presented. On the subject of cultural destruction (ie they couldnt have possibly built this they are not intelligent enough) thank you for your point of view it really made me look at it from the builders piont of view.

[@Endominius]

Thank you I really enjoyed this. Your careful and considered style appeals to me, so much better than the flashy TV history we get. And thank you UnchartedX, I never got a recommendation for Dr. Miano's channel until I told YT to stop recommending yours to me. :D

[@MossyMozart]

@Endominius - And I love the humor with which Dr Miano approaches his video shorts. ^_^

[@robisonwells1]

I love these videos that take down pseudoarchaeology. Keep it up!

[@rockysexton8720]

Drinking game rule #1: Take a big drink of Chicha every time someone leaves a negative comment which clearly indicates they didn't watch the video.

[@daveandgena3166]

I picked a bad week to stop day drinking.

[@rockysexton8720]

Week ain't over yet. I've got a six pack chilling for when the dullards start bringing up Posnansky while ignoring decades of research conducted since C14 was developed.

[@Eyes_Open]

@@rockysexton8720 I just dont understand how Andes glaciation allows any serious belief in Posnansky. Anyways, I feel sorry for your liver.

[@rockysexton8720]

35 years in anthropology enduring an endless stream of nutjobs with alternative theories and my liver is well conditioned.

[@daveandgena3166]

@@rockysexton8720 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@IndigenistVoices]

Thank you for making this video combating many of the sensational misapprehensions regarding Tiwanaku, and even shedding light on the complicated environment of the site. On the matter of combating those modern-day myths, the linguistic peer-review works on the Puquina language has provided historical clarity, and at times a more direct approach. Particularly the toponymy of places from Titicaca to Cuzco, which not only highlights the connection between the Tiwanaku upper-class (~1000 AD) and the later Inca panacas, but reveals hints of the complex history that gave rise to the Inca Empire.

[@danjohnston3395]

I absolutely love this video .... Love the way David debunks these outragious claims. I find it hard to believe that Ben (UnchartedX) would go through all of this and never pick up a book from more modern studies ... or, studies that might not agree with his position. It goes to show that Ben only cares about his little money making venture by duping the masses. Who does Ben go on these trips with?? Graham Hancock, Brien Foerster and Randall Carlson. Soon Ben will be a scammer of the first order. And David will continue to debunk .... at least I hope he will.

[@stephenphillips4984]

What tosh! Is your idea of debunking just throwing mud around and hoping that it will stick? Debunking people's work by misrepresenting it is totally unscientific.

[@larryd9235]

Brilliant David, just brilliant in your rebuttals, using your knowledge sharpened by logic and reason. I now try to emulate your method of observation and application of such logic and reason, with the understanding that there is no substitute for established research and the tried and true principles upon which this field is built upon. In short, very, very professional.

[@mcgie2002]

As always rock solid argumentation and extensive research and documentation. It’s like an academic class every time… I am beginning to run out of words to express how passionate i came to feel about this channel. It is a gem in YT land which will no doubt grow huge over time. Thank you so very much for all that work ❤️

[@ronniesunshine1115]

Thanks so much for this video Dr. Miano. It is often difficult for people unfamiliar with the archaeological literature to know how to evaluate the content of the alternative historical literature and videos. And thanks for your citing of sources and providing links, this greatly aids personal research. I regard the Alternative History and Ancient Alien movements as religious phenomena, and their reasoning methods and interpretation of evidence are forms of religious apologetics, rather than historical and archaeological investigation. Alt-historians use history and archaeology for the purpose of justifying beliefs, but don't really contribute to genuine understanding in the disciplines of history, anthropology or archaeology nor of the peoples and cultures of the past and indigenous peoples today whose monuments these are. Alt-historians seem uninterested in the peoples and cultures of ancient sites, only in the size, precision and orientations of monuments. So thanks Dr. Miano for connecting real people and cultures to the sites. Their stories are more interesting than The Story alt-historians tell about mysterious ruins of a lost Golden Age.

[@Alex-ys2dd]

Well said. An excellent summation of the Alternate History and Ancient Alien movements.

[@cal4837]

Miano with another banger of a video. Keep making positive contributions to the ever-expanding cloud of craziness that is the internet Doc!

[@lucianoarosemena9699]

I am Peruvian and a fan of history in general. I hope you read my comment. Fist of all allow me to express my thanks for the effort you put in every video. I find them engaging, spicy, well thought, and packed with interesting information. I would like to point out something out though. I think one of the reasons that alternate history fans and classic historians talk past each others is that classic historians pay more attention to the clues derived by what is found on the site, and not from the buildings themselves. It makes me wonder what should have more weight: i) What the people that lived in the buildings tell us through their art and other remains, or ii) What their buildings by themselves, through geology, astronomy, mathematics, etc, tell us. When I look at the history of Peru. I see many cities, Cuzco, Puno, Trujillo, even Lima, where people are actually living among the ruins of previous civilizations. The Huaca Pucllana for example, is located right in the middle of a what is today one of the most expensive residential areas of Lima. You see the same in so many cities and towns in Europe, where modern buildings coexists with constructions made hundreds and sometimes even thousands of years ago. Is it not possible that we are actually looking at in Tiawanaku is exactly the same process? Maybe the actual core construction of the site, at least of the Pumapunku site, is older. Not just hundred of years older, but thousands of years older. Like the Huaca Pucllana is to Miraflores, or the Roman aqueduct is to Segovia. Maybe we are making the same mistake that future archeologist would do when they analyze our remains. Dating everything as from today because we are unable to separate the cultural remains from the much more ancient buildings. Even though Pumapunku has engineering feats that surprise everyone, those, by themselves, may not be enough to support a much earlier construction date. But its when you start paring this new perception to other unexplainable facts that it gets tricky. Facts such as the rain erosion of the Sphinks, the appearance of Gobleki Teppe, the incredible astrological alignments and mathematics of the pyramids, our current updated knowledge about the ending of the ice age (much quicker than originally thought), flood myths, etc. It's when you start taking these other facts into account that the idea that some of the buildings may be much older starts making sense. I think alternate historians look at this other facts in the same way that you look at the pottery or the metallurgy of a site, and use them to complement their historic view. I still believe that the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis is only that, just a hypothesis. But you should be open also to the possibility that it might eventually transform into a theory. If that ends up happening, I hope the academics end up having a peaceful way to solve their disputes, and we don't end in the trails of Salem or the Inquisition ;). The fact that the first war of the global world has started in the most educated continent of the world doesn't give us to much hope ... :(

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thank you for your comment. I tried to make it clear in the video that the construction dates of the Pumapunku and Akapana are known. So no, it does not seem even remotely possible that the actual core construction is thousands of years older. Also, there is absolutely no connection between Tiwanaku and the Sphinx or Gobekli Tepe. They are far from each other in time and place, they were built by different peoples, and they have no distinctive resemblances between them. They are not linked in any way. Moreover, Gobekli Tepe and the Sphinx are considerably less advanced in building technique than what we find at Tiwanaku.

[@customsongmaker]

@@WorldofAntiquity And the tops of the walls are considerably less advanced than the base of the walls, but you still claim they were built by the same people at the same time.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@customsongmaker bigger does not equal more advanced

[@lucianoarosemena9699]

@@WorldofAntiquity thank you for your answer. I am not mentioning gobleki tepe arguing a link between it and tiawnaku. I mention it to show that it is possible to encounter high arquitecture and advanced constructions much closer to the ice age. I write my comment more as a general critic. I do believe that archeologists should put more effort into explaining the buildings and the construction methods per se. Most of the effort is put into explaning the remains but not the building. I know it because on my history classes in Peru I spent hours learning about the different styles of ceramic but cero minutes trying to explain the construction methods of the sites, which remain unknown. I do believe it is time for archeology to incorporate other sciences and be ready to listen to what they tell us. Archeology is still in the best position to answer our history questions. But if it countinues to deny what other sciences are telling us about our past, it might start loosing much of its audience.

[@lucianoarosemena9699]

@@WorldofAntiquity Also. Isnt it possible for archeologists to incorrectly date remains tying them to the building they are found when this buildings are repopulated? Like in the case of many cities? If a cataclysm occurs, and the city of Cuzco is completely abandoned, what methods would archeology use 5,000 years from now to make sure we do not assign the modern buildings of cuzco to the city’s early past? Many of the houses in cuzco have Incan foundations. How would we be able to identify the many cultures that lived in the site and separate them? What are the methods that archeology uses to avoid this potential mistake. I would aplreciate you explaining that. Thanks

[@cameronmitchell3057]

Excellent job again, Dr. Miano. I think one word sums it up : SNAP!

[@UnitSe7en]

Uncharted will call into question the accuracy of C-14 dating when it doesn't fit his opinion, but when it does, it's always unquestionably correct. According to Uncharted, C-14 dates from 1,500 years ago are more inaccurate and more likely to have suffered from variable decay rates than his favoured dates from 15,000 years ago.

[@stephenphillips4984]

That's a misrepresentation. Ben does not base his favoured dates from 15,000 years on any kind of carbon dating. He was simply quoting figures that Posnanski came up with, based upon his mistaken astronomical calculations.

[@mistyhaney5565]

omg, when I heard him say, "water finds its level" I was afraid he also claims the earth is flat. I do love that those who so confidently question "academia" don't do any of the calculations involved in the science they claim nullifies the consensus of people actually working at these sites.

[@guysmiley834]

You have honestly changed my mind in regards to most of the misleading “ancients high technology” myths out there. Thank you for your expertise and content. Sometimes you can’t see the “Foerster” before the trees.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

So happy to hear that, Guy!

[@backalleycqc4790]

I'm at the 4:55 mark of this video and after listening to the original video it's almost like his saying "How could these people live here without a Walmart and 7Eleven, it seems inconceivable!"

[@dororo101]

I would drink when he says “precision” but I’d like to live to see tomorrow.

[@Skibbityboo0580]

Or "mainstream archeology".

[@dororo101]

@@Skibbityboo0580 lol

[@AncientPuzzles]

I watched uncharted x vid and I knew sooner or later this had to happen LOL. I always thought it wouldn't be a bad thing to dig deeper and see what is found, but I understand this most likely would be a waste of time. Great vid👍🏻

[@anitapollard1627]

Thank you, Dr. David ❤ egg-sell-lent as usual!!! I started reading the first book you referenced immediately upon finishing this very well done video presentation! Thank you for that also 😁

[@michaelsmyth3935]

I tend to mutter because Science when I occasionally view alternative history videos. When Ancient Aliens was first hitting it big, we would gather in the main room to exercise laughter as we viewed. Brown Velvet Suit guy, nuff said.

[@studioMYTH]

So much will power is going in to me not commenting on uncharted X's videos about how problematic and ignorant his "sources" are for information. I would have a very hard time addressing his arguments in such a collected manner as yourself. Love your videos ! Keep it up

[@Eyes_Open]

You would be blocked from UnchartedX channel if you challenged too directly.

[@davidinmossy]

When i see these ancient cities i always imagine what those people did what was their day to day routines. What things consumed their thoughts. What did they think of life/esistance.

[@fredriktomte80]

I love that you do this, both for the interesting fact in themselves, but also that you take your time to contest the flood of misinformation! Keep up the good work, man! ❤

[@cuevob]

As an Engineer, I wondered if anyone measured the exact position of each astronomical feature of the observatory? If it's not accurately placed than error should have a wide range plus/minus. If they were all exactly the same error in the same direction, then I think their argument would be stronger.

[@Kerbheros]

Yes, engineer too here :-) same though came to me ... how is the tolerance on the exact (theoretical) position for each stone could be plotted ? if all errors goes in the same direction it is not the same as position errors going in random directions. And even if all go in the same direction, there maybe still be small variations between each angles, which could lead to calculation of an "average error of the full assembly" and not just one stone. Also, what is this 18 minutes angle represent on ground in terms of position ? is this a few centimetres ? or tens of centimetres ? at the stones ? at the observer location ? or can it translate in a number of days of errors when taking the sun position reference for solstice ? I would tend to believe that a few cm of offset from the exact (theoretical) position or a single day error is an acceptable/normal construction error for the time ... (not even talking of the visual references used at the time , this is not an optical instrument with a precise reticle, so what is the cue / reference they used and the error on it ? ) ... at the very least, a proper error analysis work should result to a +/- uncertainty associated to the resulting date

[@customsongmaker]

I don't know, but I saw a video where a scientist measured the H-blocks with a precision laser. The blocks measured .999 meters, 1.001 meters, and 1.000 meters.

[@andrejkalamar4484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5elo4OBiJ6Ui5I Finally some comment that is not just praising what it hears last. Here is this video. I can not find an explanation why 1m, that measurement didn't exist at that time. Can you 2 as engineers explain that? I bet mr scientist cannot! With these sites precision is the smoking gun, but I'm no engineer and archeologist are even worst engineers than me :P

[@ddkapps]

Excellent rebuttal to the equally long unchartedx video, which I somehow watched in its entirety, all the while getting more and more annoyed that it was mostly just a recapitulation of Posnanski's long discredited astroarchaeology work and contained basically nothing really new from a science perspective. It's heartening to see a well done point by point rebuttal that essentially mirrors most of what I was thinking as I sat through the unchartedx vid. Nice work, especially since you're fighting such an uphill battle against the seemingly unstoppable flood of online misinformation.

[@ccreel64]

Great video! In all fairness, for many of these modern amateur researchers, the question is less when than how these structures were built within the constraints of the material culture in which they are said to have lived. Advanced technology doesn’t necessarily mean modern technology, as evidenced by Roman architecture. I would argue that the Romans were an advanced technological society without modern technology. The same applies to Tihuanacu, the Olmecs, and other American societies. The question of how has not been adequately addressed by archaeology, only the when. Hence their disdain for academia. Add to that, until recently academic papers have been more difficult to access for most people and that lends to an impression of hiding truths from the general public. By and large the amateurs are extrapolating ‘fact’ from what information is readily available to them which is older research and books. I don’t say that they are correct in their assumptions. But I have to wonder why other scientific disciplines such as engineering isn’t trying to discover how these monuments were built.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Good points, but I would say that, for these researchers, the question of how these structures were built is merely a vehicle through which they can posit a lost advanced civilization.

[@ccreel64]

@@WorldofAntiquity I agree that many lost advanced civilization hypotheses (because that’s what they are) run too far with very sparse support, and too much cognitive bias. Thank you for your reply. Your videos always give me something meaty for my brain to chew on.

[@WendyDunham]

Another intelligent and careful analysis, including fair and grounded challenges to the unconfirmed speculations of others, who often claim academics are hiding or ignoring “the truth”. Clearly, academics DO consider all the evidence as they attempt to unravel history and lift the veil obscuring our past. Kudos.

[@elguapo2831]

Most notable of this site is the reconstruction in the last century. Just like Stonehenge, another mans interpretation of what it could have looked like to attract tourists. What is interesting is that the only fresh water sea horse lives in Lake Titicaca. (Flood?)

[@AlbertaGeek]

"In this video, we look at the evidence presented by UnchartedX to see how well it holds up." Spoiler alert: it does not hold up.

[@p.mrtynjy]

yes but the drill holes and perfect 90 degree cuts on Andesite make one wonder

[@przemog88]

@@p.mrtynjy Are these cuts really 90 degree? Sorry, once I saw how "Ancient Aliens" tried to show that and they failed miserably.

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@p.mrtynjy Try exercising a modicum of skepticism and _not_ simply believe whatever pseudoarchaeology sources tell you.

[@MirzaMughal86]

I'm so glad I found this channel. All the screaming at the screen I've done in my head watching these ANCIENT HIGH TECHNOLOGY youtubers is available on this channel in well researched video format, WIN WIN for common sense!

[@casparcoaster1936]

Really beautiful, even if I knew nothing about it, which I do, but, still, no time wasted on this channel

[@nektu5435]

What's hard for me to understand is why someone like UcX would go to all the trouble to make this documentary style video of his, put in the work to make sure he at least represents the sources accurately that he finds valuable and for what end? Is it a con? Is he consciously trying to mislead or deceive people? Or does he see himself as some sort of rogue scholar that's misunderstood by academia? Whatever the case is it seems strange to me for someone to be, IMO, wasting everyone's time and especially his own. Idk, the internet makes people do weird things.

[@TheGahta]

Yes its a con

[@brankobelfranin8815]

money and easy grifting

[@tomalexander2710]

Love your work on the Americas, it’s something we don’t learn much about in Europe (or at least I haven’t)

[@SHDUStudios]

I will say that the tangents about Bellamy and others could be interpreted as “poisoning the well” instead of addressing their actual arguments related to Tiwanaku. Just a thought I had.

[@exittomenu]

Another banger video, your longer ones are easily my favorites A binge of them got me through a 26 hour shift driving across Wyoming yesterday Thank you for your work

[@aclearlight]

A lovely and important contribution, thank you. I greatly appreciate the expertise and scientific depth you brought to this project as well as the generally patient and respectful tone you kept to. I think this matters. I am a scientist (physical chemist) with a number of very enthusiastic, bright, curious but also pseudo-science-loving or at least -adjacent friends, and some of them present publish their opinions and intellectual edifaces around in various venues. It's a tricky business opening a useful dialog sometimes when I am asked for guidance, opinion and critique. Of course the issue of teleological reasoning comes up a lot, and frequently with cherry picking of sources as the prime and most prominent "red flag". Finding a way to correct glaring missteps productively without wounding and discouraging well-intended, curious folks can be quite a challenge. I find that success depends a great deal on the maturity and integrity of the receiver. One of my friends does make revenue and achieve influence from his work, and this does seem to make him especially refractory towards seeing the hand of teleology in his reasoning. My efforts frequently fail, but not always and I've kept the interaction flowing and productive by learning to just let some things go by. In your mission with Uncharted X, however, you have a tougher job to do and call to make. It would be so very easy to go "full snark" since indeed, spreading public ignorance is not a victimless crime (despite the ubiquity). I'm glad you don't give in; the public's too-frequent perception of professional scientists as being sharp-tongued finger-wagging buzz killers is just too easy to reinforce if we allow ourselves to be as conversationally direct with struggling amateurs as we might be towards our grad students. There's an important "ambassador thing" going here with what you're doing, and I salute the kindness and respect with which you deliver your message.

[@NShomebase]

Thank you for touching on how these advanced civilization theories have so often been rooted in racism.

[@davemi00]

A sort of Modern Western Obnoxiousness. That older non white civilizations were somehow Less than us. Then hiding the True Evidence, that they were Not. We’ve gone soft and now fighting Globalists Oligarchy. Becoming modern slaves.

[@bujfvjg7222]

Haaaaa, the Egyptian authority are racist in being completely unable to accept black people had a chance of being king of Egypt, and all those missing noses lol, maybe the ancients did a lot of coke. Oh on that topic, were the COCAINE mummies ever explained? Didn't think so....

[@dmandork]

You really are something special to believe that.

[@NShomebase]

@@dmandork Ignoring the evidence right in front of your face?

[@probablynotmyname8521]

When i hear unchartedx i strap in for an endless stream of “bwah… but how did they do anything… they were so primitive…” i would take unchartedx far more seriously if he had just one argument that wasnt rooted in incredulity.

[@stephenphillips4984]

But the incredulity is directed towards mainstream archaeologists who can ignore glaring anomalies and other scientific problems, such as the inability of copper tools to slice through huge blocks of granite or bore 10 inch circular holes two feet deep in solid granite blocks. I would take mainstream archaeology more seriously if it could provide one plausible explanation of how all the masony was made. But of course it can't - and everyone knows it can't. And that's why many of us - educated at university with postgraduate degrees - are turning to more honest investigators who care only about the truth, not about their career prospects or what their colleagues think about them.

[@probablynotmyname8521]

@stephenphillips4984 you are woefully misinformed and under informed. The answers to all of these anomalies is a simple google search away. The m9re interesting question is why you haven't been searching for the answers?

[@sebastianoursin8076]

Im really grateful that people like you exist! Your argumentation is logical and respectful and i hope very much that that balances out (at least a little bit) all the emotionally charged and scientifically ignorant stuff on youtube!

[@cattymajiv]

As Tony Wilson said below, don't forget to comment and especially to like ALL of Dr Miano's videos to boost them!

[@vladimircharvat7331]

Chavin de Huantar is really great. Have visited it in may this year. There were just five other turists at whole site... At Casma valley no turists at all...

[@richard-cf8ce]

Your channel was like a breath of fresh air for me. I don't think with the available knowledge anyone could put out a better documentary. Thank you for your work

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Wow, thank you!

[@daveshrum1749]

Love your work as always. I am hardly any kind of historian, I'm just an interested lay person. Frankly you don't even have to know about the exact history to debunk most of this guy's "work". They don't seem to understand how basic logic and Common Sense works. And every single time they say "there is great controversy" about whatever. What that really means is they disagree with all the actual scientists and historians across the Spectrum and they really want to just go with Ancient Aliens. Same thing when they say we don't know how whatever was made. 90% of the time we do or we have a really good idea. Again they just don't want to accept it. They'd rather go with the pyramids were built by levitating the giant stones with sonic waves provided by our alien godmasters. Lol 😆. Once again thanks for the education and the laughs. love your sense of humor .

[@kraz007]

It seems alternative history appeals to people who view "locals" around the world as inferior. It's a part of an ideology that ranks races and as such represents acceptable racism.

[@thehappycamper7360]

If ever there was a more “woke” answer

[@thehappycamper7360]

Pat on the back for you

[@JonBrownSherman]

Dr. Miano bringin us some of that good good stuff

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Hey, thanks so much, Aethelwulf!

[@Erlrantandrage]

This is my favorite series because it exposes all the argumentative loopholes created by those arguing from a fixed position.

[@adamroodog1718]

gday dr dave ive got a question about the rebuilding of these places. ive noticed that in a lot of the old photos the structure of not just this site are pretty degraded. mostly just mounds. who decides how to reconstruct the walls for example? and when did they rebuild them? early on? and how sure are we that the reconstructions are like the originals?

[@Eyes_Open]

There have definitely been some misguided attemps at reconstructions at that site in the past.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Check out the paper on how they reconstructed the Pumupunku. I have it linked below the video. It will give you an idea.

[@adamroodog1718]

@@WorldofAntiquity thanks mate

[@adamroodog1718]

@@WorldofAntiquity oh yeah i had an idea for you as well. could you use your academic credentials to contact different museums curators to get a tour of their collections or you could even just focus on one piece. i think that would be cool because alot of people dont get to see that stuff 'up close' sort of like your travel guides but just in the usa. im glad to see that your pushing on toward 100k subs, thats a pretty big lecture hall in comparison.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

@@adamroodog1718 Check out my Artifacts series.

[@AncientAmericas]

Hey! hey! What do we have here? What a wonderful surprise!

[@Qytrh]

The issue is instead of forming a conclusion based off the evidence; they have a preconceived idea, which they then look around for evidence to support it. When they don't have a good enough scientific or philosophical reason to give that idea preference over all other evidence.

[@stephenphillips4984]

But archaeologists do exactly the SAME. The history of all the archaological sites in the region that they learnt during their Ph.D studies brainwashes them into conformity so that their research never rocks the ideological boat for fear of damaging their careers and reputations. Their conclusions are as much (if not more) guided by the paradigm they have worked in as by any evidence they find. That's why they ignore evidence that blatantly fails to fit their paradigm. And that's why people like Ben refuse to accept all the contradictions and anomalies one finds in Egyptology and elsewhere.

[@zacharymorris4504]

I was so much more enthralled by the footage collected by unchartedX and other background footage of the sites in question, especially shots of their farming and agricultural terraces. it's really impressive. No wonder after these peoples figured out how to raise food supplies like that they sprang up into major civilizations there. I'm not even sure what unchartedX was talking about in some parts because he sounded like he was rambling and I toned him out.

[@TheMeritCoba]

UnchartedX approach to a puzzle is to collect the pieces that match his preconceived idea and discard the pieces that won'f fit. What is left is a mess with holes.

[@j.c.3800]

So does academia and always has! I studied Anthro in college 53 years ago and it has been turned upside down since then!

[@thomasnaas2813]

Great respect for your work. Always civil , but obviously concerned about all the sheep dip salesmen that only seek to profit from the credulous and are unwilling, (or able), to do the intellectual heavy lifting required to do legitimate research.

[@mikeshem7665]

Definitely a refreshing change to see a video that actually checked facts and data collected on a site. It is definitely an impressive civilization no doubt. Great video Brother 👍👍😎🤟🤟♒️

[@exllbee4820]

Once I hear the word 'pseudo-scientific", I know I'm going to hear a lot of bullshit!

[@UnitSe7en]

Oh dear. Uncharted used that most painful of parrot terms: "Water finds it's level."

[@kitchristophermaromahony3391]

A great series. Not just a rebuttal of misinformation but an education for all. Great fun.

[@ullupdrost4740]

please continue your series on debunking of uncharted x, its stellar work. Much appreciated !

[@bujfvjg7222]

He's not debunking fuck all when he doesn't himself explain how these people constructed this place.

[@amlanmohanty1233]

Please keep doing videos about Ancient India! I am particularly fascinated by the "proto-republics" you mentioned once.

[@rumplespewskin6718]

It is amazing to learn from an academic that loves teaching, and doesn't mock someone trying to learn, only ones that mock the study of history itself. The side of academia that I interact with does not give me the same great feeling.

[@OdysseyofEmpires]

This guy Ben from Uncharted X just had a right go at you online for this... He is obviously frightened of his New Age career

[@WorldofAntiquity]

He did? Where?

[@OdysseyofEmpires]

@@WorldofAntiquity he took it down, I can't find it.... He said he was furious... People like you. Trying to destroy his 'research' the links are gone on his social shares

[@melrichardson7709]

@@OdysseyofEmpires Just out of curiosity, as I may have missed this in other videos, what are this Uncharted X fellow's actual academic qualifications / practical experience to enable him to comment on archaeological sites across the globe? 🤔

[@customsongmaker]

@@melrichardson7709 he's been to the sites, which is a basic qualification that World of Antiquity lacks

[@melrichardson7709]

@@customsongmaker Oh, you mean he's a "tourist" ! Well why didn't you say. 😂 I've been to many archaeological sites, but untill I've read the latest up to date archaeological reports and matched them to what I've seen or what I'm actually looking at then it is very easy to arrive at the wrong conclusions. Uncharted X may have been to the site, but he ignores the more recent data, unless it can be used fit in with his claims. Eg, he will discount C14 dates at one point, then rely on them at another. He can't have it both ways.😉

[@simasjermosenka6870]

I find your videos very informative and at the same time very entertaining. The comparison between an amateur and a professional! Ignorance is bliss when you have no accountability for your statements. I am engineer specialising in transmission design and if I ever venture into the "forums" where people are venting their ideas on transmission design, I simply want to scream into a pillow! Your videos are a good example of a profession specific language which can only be learnt by putting a lot of hard work, studying, learning and working in that actual field. You should do a video about the ooparts!

[@normlman]

Wow, I used to love Uncharted X. I will never watch it again as now I definitely have doubt. Thank you

[@jamesboaz4787]

The guys your calling out here definitely speculate at times but I truly do believe that men like Graham and Randall and even Brian are absolutely on to something. To simply discredit them with the wave of your hand because they have and do speculate at times is just ignorant. There dealing with stuff from beyond ancient times. Who the hell os alive today who really knows? All we have to go on are our ancient ancestors stories handed down and some old stories that were written down. Robert and other have shown beyond any doubt the Sphinx had to have bin carved at least 10k years ago. It's beyond clear that we definitely had a global civilization before and during the last ice age. The Hopi tribe tells us this great cataclysm has happened 4 times before and it will happen again. And where is the link to the original video you said you'd leave down below?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

*To simply discredit them with the wave of your hand* If I waved my hand, the video would be 30 seconds long, not over an hour of detailed evidence. Same with all the other videos. *There dealing with stuff from beyond ancient times.* Most of the time, they are not. *Who the hell os alive today who really knows?* kzbin.infomugfV8zY8h0?feature=share *Robert and other have shown beyond any doubt the Sphinx had to have bin carved at least 10k years ago.* Beyond any doubt? What do other geologists say? kzbin.info/www/bejne/epKtiHigntKYeq8 *The Hopi tribe tells us this great cataclysm has happened 4 times before and it will happen again.* Didn't you just say, "Who the hell os alive today who really knows?" *And where is the link to the original video you said you'd leave down below?* Thanks for reminding me. It's there now.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

*_"The guys your calling out here definitely speculate at times but I truly do believe that men like Graham and Randall and even Brian are absolutely on to something. "_* "You're" calling out. *YOU'RE!* Why are all the saps who swallow all this bilge always so under-educated and sub-literate? Speculation is not evidence. They are on to nothing but an easy way to make money out of gullible fools who are genuinely interested in the ancient past but don't have the critical thinking skills or the specialist background to see that they are being scammed by charlatans and frauds. *_"Robert and other have shown beyond any doubt"_* 🙄 *GROAN!* Schlock talked a load of old crap about the age of the Sphinx, it STILL rains heavily in Cairo even today. Not very often, but when it rains it POURS. 4,500 years is more than enough time to show the erosion we see, much of which was actually due to wicking and salt formation, not simple run off. {:o:O:}

[@stevefaure415]

Thanks for this very thoughtful and thorough video lecture. You're providing a good service. It's nice to see that this channel is starting to get the attention it deservers with viewership. It's kind of difficult to figure out the motivation of Ben at UncharterX because he at least seems like he's not afraid of real research and putting in some amount of time on his subject, unlike the mindless parroting that goes on in so many of these alt-history channels. And yet he is either oblivious to the sound arguments against the claims he makes or else decides to ignore them without even making an effort to refute them. I guess, no different than the others, a healthy dose of cynicism will answer the questions of why.

[@leandrodrace]

Great video, I never saw anyone explaining such places in depth like you did. Thanks for sharing.