Yoh: A New Branch of American Heavy Tanks

[@edriancontridas3.14]

Oh cool, more hulldown tanks, now with _Reserve Tracks™_

[@MakMak02]

Keep crying bot, these tanks are balanced, or do you prefer a tank as useless as the rinoceronte?

[@williampaine3520]

I mean they seem strong but doesn’t make the play style more interesting

[@happygnom27]

can t wait for the tier 8 russian heavy tank with autorealoder double barrel v shaped hull and reserve tracks

[@kingstoler]

They look balanced. They have weakspots and reserve tracks are pretty much meaningless. A new american heavy branch is actually something the game has been missing for years.

[@sceligator]

The T6 is faster than the medium and better armoured than the heavy of the same tier. Do you see an issue there WG?

[@happygnom27]

m6 has no armor and sherman isn't a fast med + it has 0,42 accuracy on a 100% crew and top gun yeah op

[@lephaytheo3098]

@@happygnom27 bad dispersion isn't a balance mechanism, it only make it frustrating : when you fire and don't hit when your supose to, or when you receive a shot that wasn't supposed to hit. To understand it better I will lunch hammers to your face, since I'm not likely to hit you, their is no reason that I don't.

[@happygnom27]

@@lephaytheo3098 yeah and speed of a vehicle also isn't a balance mechanism, it only makes it more frustrating to go into your position by the same logic

[@lephaytheo3098]

@@happygnom27 speed is normaly given to light vehicule, light vehicule are underarmored and/or underarmed so this balance them, bad dispersion is compensate by, wait for it, nothing. If you want to balance a gun you change the reload speed and damage, that way smal gun do small damage but reload fast and big gun do more damage at the take of a slower reload. Penetration would be harder to balance but I am not working for wargaming so I not going to spend 10 day a mouth to find a way to. I just thinks that a higher penetration could be balanced by a lower reload speed, you know more chance to inflict domage but an overall of less dommage. But maybe stick to the role of the tank, it doesn't make sense that a recon vehicule can easily penetrate a heavy front, but if this vehicule has been designed to be double used as light td it make sense that even a relatively armored medium could be in great danger.

[@happygnom27]

@@lephaytheo3098 tanks meant to fight close range tend to have higher dispersion then sniping tanks it's not made to just make the game more frustrating, it also helps new players find the role of a specific vehicle, if it can t hit anything from long range maybe it's supposed to fight up close

[@salzstange6341]

yay. another bunch of hulldown 10° Depression monsters. just what the meta needs. at least no Autoloader...

[@Marci001]

360 alpha lol, its almost balanced

[@sunbear1310]

Imagine playing a tank game and being upset about how tanks are designed.

[@matthewyang7893]

American superconq line

[@jakublukac9348]

it can have about 3600 dpm eith the small gun and if it has good terrain resistancy than its basically a kran without an autoloader

[@kingstoler]

They've been a part of the game for a decade. Having good hulldown capabilities mean nothing. Just another bunch of cry babies 🤣

[@hanifloka130]

Friendly reminder that the Yoh tanks and their reserve tracks are once again, things planned by H.L. Yoh. These weren't made overnight in Sprocket, its not a concoction of Wargaming; everything was designed, planned, and submitted to the Army by H.L. Yoh.

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

Glad to see that comment! You can also find out more about the Yoh Tanks Project in our historical articles worldoftanks.eu/en/news/history/yoh-tank-concepts-part-1/ - Dwigt

[@ravazoid469]

Ok no problem, now start explaining the origin of the chinese tank destroyers, the czech heavies, the entire italian tech tree, and the high tier polish tanks. I don't care if they make tanks up as long as the game is balanced which they struggle to do with fantasy tanks.

[@GalioTheColossus]

@@ravazoid469 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂genius

[@hanifloka130]

@@ravazoid469 now that I can't explain. They are made up I admit, but you can't point fingers at Wargaming for making the Yohs, they're implementing something historical. You can blame them with as you say, the balancing factor.

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

@@ravazoid469 We do know that not all tanks in our game existed in real life or even on paper. Some of our tanks are inspired by existing projects like the CZ heavies for example. We do however try to keep them close to reality and most of all we want to add interesting and balanced mechanics so they can fit into the game and add more diversity. - Dwigt

[@Anriandor]

4:03 "It deals impressive single shot damage" = 320 Alpha VKs, Skoda, 50TP, Defender....: Am I a joke to you?

[@happygnom27]

impressive for a tier 6 lmao

[@matthewyang7893]

This is a tier 6 tank lol Ofc joking cause t150 has 300 alpha at tier 6 in actuality

[@Anriandor]

@@happygnom27 My timestamp is literally the TIER 8 tank, did you even watch what I LINKED?

[@happygnom27]

@@Anriandor sarcasm bruh also now i will point it out 50tp is tier 9, 53tp or 50tp prot is what you meant

[@glatchikit]

1:22 how it feels to play M6 in 2022

[@Dutchginger1138]

Haha,

[@strategicmind2652]

I was thinking that maybe they should add a British small caliber light line that follows the crusaders playstyle, or hybrid drivetrain for the Porsche tanks.

[@warchipe]

THE YOH TANK ! WITH THE TRAAAAACK MECANIC, DAMN !

[@may4real134]

The Tier 6 is pretty much just a Medium with decent armour, and alright damage, I don't know why they made it fast lmao

[@marco_1000]

Another hull down monster with excellent gun depression! Whoooooo, Wargaming has so many nice ideas!

[@cz82al]

Fv4005 and problem is fixed

[@happygnom27]

would way more rather face this tank then the tanks already in game

[@peterose3390]

I think this line is cool and quite decently balanced for the game. Atleast the turrets still have penetrable cupolas and/or other weakspots.

[@kaszas272HU]

Yap there is no absolute armor there are weakspot no 1000 damage clip in 2 sec brutal dps and things like this even the tier X hase a weaker turretring so you can pen it . Mybe a little bit stronger than an E5 and i would say its like a Obj.277 for the american branch but not at a lvl of a Vz.55 .

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

@@kaszas272HU These tanks are not using the autoloader mechanics. Cheers! -DelhRoh

[@kaszas272HU]

@@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel yap i know but thanks for the info anyways 👍

[@devastik3097]

What I like about the new mechanic is the longer repair of main track if you are moving - you should add a similar mechanic to wheeled vehicles, so that they have to stop for their wheels to repair.

[@thaibinh99]

Quite long time to see techtree better than premium tank.

[@BestCoachOnEarth]

wait for softstats, only tier X will be good in beginning, so idiots will use free XP and gold to get faster new tank. I forget idiots allready spend free XP and gold in auction for stupid skins, but its ok, can buy more gold, this year allready in january😉

[@thaibinh99]

@Daniel Barbarossa the cupola is just stupid with m iv y which make everything else are meaningless. With techtree tank, at least fewer people will try to pen the cupola.

[@wolf17181]

And in the next episode of ranked battles here what we have prepared for you i first hull down position we have KRANVAGN and in second hull down position we have the new YOOHHH tank (aka cement mixer) and who of those almighty hull down monsters will have the glory to penetrate first all of this and many more you can watch on the next episode of RANKED BATTLES

[@immortalist3071]

Cement mixer lmfao

[@ravazoid469]

In fact, you can even experience this excellent feature in the random queue. *Rock music*

[@AwesomeEpicGuys]

Yolo tanks!

[@hiroli7720]

The JOE tank with the TRACK mechanic

[@iffi_master2286]

ngl, I'm suprised that wot can make new lines that are kind of balanced to every other tank

[@ME262MKI]

4:42 imagine trying to beat one of those things hulldown on your obsolete E75

[@takhirha8077]

I'm still waiting for rinoceronte buff lol

[@Spkz]

Wargaming: Please participate in the sandbox and common test and leave your feedbacks. We care about your feedbacks so we can shape the game together. Also Wargaming: Welcome a brand new branch of hull down tanks, without any public testing whatsoever. Did we mention we care about your feedbacks?

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

We don´t have plans for a common test this time. You can always leave your feedback after playing with the tanks directly into the game or later in future public tests! This time it was just an exception as more public test servers will be available in the future, so if you don´t want to play with them now you can always wait till the test public server! Cheers! -DelhRoh

[@kutyaszar]

Add flying tanks next time

[@GreenLeafUponTheSky]

2090

[@shiro5769]

reminds me on the Kranvagn

[@nimrodrovo440]

did they just put a heart on your comment? you probably forgot to mention that it reminds you of the kranvagn bc its just another hull down tank

[@tobiasL1991]

Like everything, how big their weakspots are really gonna be and how bad their gun and track soft stats are gonna be is everything.

[@samilkarip1391]

fantastic

[@immortalist3071]

I like this line, especially the 2 gun choice

[@liloton4651]

Exactly what nobody needed. How about to undo the HE "REWORK" and "REBALANCE" the current Meta? Aka: Reduce combat-capacity of hulldown brawlers and maybe add proper weakspots to these vehicles like giving them lower reverse speed and horrible dispersion values. Instead of adding more fantasy B.S. to the already pathetic and hilarious Vehicles in the game. Or actually change the ecconomy system to reward good games based on medals and experience and penalize very bad results or selfdestruction harder so Bots will no longer be able to finance games over T6?

[@MakMak02]

Yes undo he rework to make bots like you hit 500dmg he on your 60tp, definitely a good idea.

[@liloton4651]

@@MakMak02 I dont have the 60TP but ok. Sounds fair to me. Punish hulldown campers for siting still and not taking cover as everyone else has to. Simple the only way to kill these buggers since even prem ammo cant pen their turrets. I now its unconfortable to loose you favorite foolish no skill requiered playstyle but how about to get gud and actually "play" the game and not stand still and click a few times with the 2 Button slammed trough ur table.

[@kaszas272HU]

@@MakMak02 i would still take endless HE spam with my Spall Liner than not having any way to damage other hulldown 60TP and Chieftians and such . HE was not a real problem its just all the tryhard f s didnt give up on the Gun Rammer or something to counter the HE so insted they cried until they get what they wanted .

[@MakMak02]

@@kaszas272HU Yeah, that explains why you are a bad player, even thinking about using spall liner... Going hull down in a useful position without over exposing requires a 100 times the skill compared to shooting he like a bot anywhere in the tank and hit for 300-400 damage... But y'all bots never accept that, you get destroyed by a good player in a hull down tank and instead of thinking what you could have done better you just cry about your HE or whatever.

[@liloton4651]

@@MakMak02 I dont event want to know how bad your stats are in your Meta tanks since your biggest fear are 60TPs in the game ... lol

[@__BLXCKOUT__]

Ahem.... THE YOH TANK!! WITH THE TRRRRACK MECHANIC! DAMN!

[@lukeskywalker9221]

FINALLY MORE IMPENETRABLE TURRETS

[@purpleskald8130]

I swore I'd never play the French armored cars. Now, everything has changed. Time to fight fire with fire

[@ravazoid469]

Bring it on bro.

[@vermas4654]

"Y" actually fits the line very well. Y in the name of all that is holy do these tanks need to be in the game?

[@yenneferofvengerberg0]

Wait is tech tree tank better than the premium Now that's illegal

[@IFear_Naught]

yet another hulldown beast with no weakspots. smell that powercreep keep rolling in.

[@cartersmith9632]

So see those cupolas? They are massive, especially on the T7. A well handled gun can pen this with ease. When the gun is raised, the cupolas on the M-V-Y and M-VI-Y will be a harder shot, but still very formidable. The Russian heavy armor is just as good in the higher tiers. And the Swedish heavies will still be the best hull down in the game.

[@nimrodrovo440]

@@szoszy8916 nyugi ha túl sok lesz a nem orosz op tank akkor azok is kapnak egy pontos ágyút mert ugye az oroszoknak kell a legjobbnak lenni ebben a játékban

[@benjaminkang-mj9fz]

AwesomeEpicGuys be like: “THE YOH TANK WITH… THE TRACK MECHANIC! YEAH!”

[@WotKamera]

good up to ten

[@VanSolus]

I want my T57 line buffed please!!!

[@ravazoid469]

Why not just nerf the op tanks?

[@heenthousiast383]

me, a Blitz player: _"I am 4 paralel universes ahead of you"_

[@heenthousiast383]

@@tomn.9987 why is that? i say the completely opposite, because both the tier 9 and 10 have completely broken guns. sure their gimmick isnt as good, but when do you need to go "forward" to "retreat" anyways?

[@Acorbet86]

Why do wargaming insist on constantly releasing make-believe tanks whilst neglecting actual real tanks!

[@mnh1270]

Yoh tanks are actually a thing.... at least in blueprint

[@Acorbet86]

@@mnh1270 yeah but there were actual tanks in service that are completely missing. And there's a big difference between a blueprint and even a functioning prototype.

[@mnh1270]

@@Acorbet86 The way I see it Wargaming won't put all existing tanks in the game, but they will put new tank line that has the same characteristic, like swedish ht line ( autoloader), 277 line (fast heavy) etc.

[@volimcvarke8437]

Nice job wg good idea to let the players pick the gun they want :)

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

It was among the popular requests when we announced the tanks on the Supertest! Thank you for those suggestions! - Dwigt

[@klayed]

very great

[@starejmyrda5460]

Yes finally Kranvagn 2 even more OP

[@ravazoid469]

It doesn't have a clip so its not peak toxic.

[@N22SY]

These tanks have weak spots that you can hit easily the Kran doesn't

[@SU-100Y]

Blitz 9 here 10 tier m-v-yoh why?

[@antalpoti]

Blitz is a different game with different dev team.

[@SU-100Y]

@@antalpoti Thx for info

[@sonomos]

That turret in that colision model is looking like Jar Jar Binkse's head from star wars with tongue out riding on frog with tracks at 5:43 xD

[@artyditu]

The competitor to the kranvagn is here

[@kurtlagon2023]

Still at least the m-iii-yoh has a auto-reloader in blitz...

[@THEParadoxTNTKILLEUR]

dont give any ideas to WG, we dont need more autoloaders/autoreloaders on PC

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

But does it have the Reserve track mechanic? hmmm 😎 - Dwigt

[@kurtlagon2023]

@@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel yes it has

[@N22SY]

@@kurtlagon2023 lmao

[@3.14name]

they look like some engineer put a rugby ball on the miniature prototype and said this is it

[@ACertainAccelerator]

Looks pretty cool thx for the video ♥

[@Stardumz]

Wise man once said :"There were enough drawings on the toilet paper to create a toilet paper roll."

[@scarflower6838]

the copula .. soo scary to grind

[@ice_bananix.-2907]

Another Tank with good armor, good mobility and good gun depression aaaaaaand with a reserve track. Finally something new! Oh wait? what are you saying? We already have for example the Kran, Stb-1 and yada yada yada... I mean i`m happy over a new line but pls Wargaming think of something new

[@MoltenEQ]

How about using those mechanics for tanks with 4 tracks? Like T95, Obj 279e and AE Phase 1? Of course they would need to be rebalanced, but I think it is a dumb idea to waste it if you guys already developed it...

[@kaszas272HU]

Its ok at AE Phase 1 but dont boost further the Obj.279e or the turtle that already hase a pretty good winrate but yeah there would be a great idea to implement new mechanics to the already existing tanks .

[@spiritfire9197]

T95 is too heavy to support a tank on those extra tracks it takes all 4 double heavy duty tracks to move that bunker if a track breaks it will not move. Those reserved tracks cannot work on such a heavy tank.

[@kaszas272HU]

@@jp18449 nope its needs all 4 tracks to move yes its an even more armored t28 but its so heavy its need all 4 tracks no question asked and there is 4 and not only 2 cuz its so heavy the tracks can get easily damaged by its own weight and it was esier to repair snaller tracks on the field than taking down the whole thing .

[@kaszas272HU]

@@jp18449 also at that time they didnt have any better solution for that but to use 4 tracks cuz they needed 4 from the strongest and best tracks at that time .

[@spiritfire9197]

@@jp18449 i bet you never actually looked into why it got called T95 did you? Let google explain it : The T28 Super Heavy Tank was an American heavily armored tank/self-propelled gun designed for the United States Army during World War II. ... It was re-designated as the 105 mm Gun Motor Carriage T95 in 1945, and then renamed in 1946 as the Super Heavy Tank T28. So in 1945 its first name was T95 and in 1946 thats the next year it was renamed to T28 superheavy . Now its literally in the name that the tank is super heavy , That means you cannot use medicore tracks on such a tank and for that reason the secondary tracks will not work. You can install them but they will break total waste of money.

[@TheLPN05Fan]

I can't wait to test them. On the Test Server. Pawlack looks like straight up Powercreep. M-II-Y has too good Pen, 180 would be better. M-III-Y is gona be straight up meta, weaken it's lower hull and give it a bigger cupola. M-VI-Y seems reasonably balanced, I definitly would drop the DPM so the Conqueror doesn't get pushed too much in the shadows, otherwise because the two massive Weakspots it gets a thumbs up by me. M-V-Yoh is gona be meta, too much DPM again, and the Weakspots can easily be hidden. I also do hope a Turbo doesn't increase the speed you can drive with reserve Tracks!

[@happygnom27]

turbo will increase the top speed with reserve tracks and also top tier yoh won t be meta it's far weaker than kran

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

The new line arrives tomorrow at the game. There is no test server this time. Cheers! -DelhRoh

[@gillespriod5509]

When a buff to the real tanks Who you keep Power Creeping?

[@pheeelz]

Can me someone explain why this tier VIII Yoh tank is like 1000 times better than some other tanks (f. e. even premiums - yes, I'm looking at you, T26E5/Patriot) and why are you still ignoring this fact Wargaming? It really doesn't make any sence and that's disgusting to be honest...

[@mauroscarinci3851]

Bussines are Bussines...thats why...

[@pheeelz]

@@mauroscarinci3851 yeah, I know, because we can definitely see it this/last year as well, that WG are pushing the marketing to the limits and almost completely forget about regular players/FTP players and simply they are putting a middle finger to all of these players and that's so disgusting, you know...

[@mauroscarinci3851]

@@pheeelz I agree 100%. Is not a good situation for regular playes Who get a lot of years ago (in my case) premiun tanks like T26E5 for example)

[@BOSs-1313]

The tier 8 one seems to completely outclass the t32

[@mnh1270]

Bruh the T32 is underwhelming anyways

[@igoryst3049]

So do most other tech tree heavy tanks

[@MetaFuryTank]

Good mechanics, now share it with TD's

[@randompersonwhocomments3645]

Differences between blitz and main game: tier 6 tank doesn't exist, reserve track is not there, tier 9 and 10 tanks switch tiers

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

The PC Yoh Tanks do not have the autoreloader mechanics like Blitz - Dwigt

[@klayed]

nice 1

Yu-Gi-Yoh

[@NoobMicesters]

All the peoples comments complaining about how broken these tanks will be didnt age well

[@shadowreverse9067]

Bruh if you want to add toy tanks go to WoTB

[@cramezzon]

It was actually put to WoTB first like 4 or 5 months ago...

[@jean-lucpicard5510]

My Strv S1 was taken out at long range by a Pawlack tank, despite it's bad accuracy. I think Wargaming is lying again!

[@Shorjok]

well at least they're not yet more autoloaders

[@Ozymandias_Knowledge]

let's make op tanks with microscopic weak spots and let RNG decide if it's gonna be pen or not pen

[@kaszas272HU]

Its all about the RNG to aim a microscopic weakspot is yes hard but "get gud lol" the crap part is the RNG even if you aim at it it will miss and even if you hit it you get a low pen roll and will not penetrate it .

[@thomasd5386]

There is no code in the video ...

[@synec7597]

This is just getting worse

[@SUNSETRETREATSXM]

Awsome

[@smiley1804]

Trop coool !!! :D

[@manuonblitz]

I play wot blitz to and is same like there the tanks and new system for wheels, but there tier x is M-YOH and is op have 2 guns one have 3 shells and one 2 .

[@danwhalin866]

Still wish the in game store would work on steam deck

[@NynkeFdejong]

still i like the sherman then the pawlack but oke i am impressed

[@Maceej]

M-V-why....

[@lpopzz]

i would wrather see new nations tank line

[@ΔημήτρηςΚαραμπετσος-π6ψ]

Dan u guys remove the cupola of t110e5? It rly needs that to be playable

[@MakMak02]

E5 is a strong tank even with the big cupola it has. Maybe if you learn to play you will play it better

[@lephaytheo3098]

@@MakMak02 the problem isn't the cupola on itself its that almost all of its opponent don't have one !

[@IceCornelius]

So, when this tech tree line will be available for grind?

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

The new line will be added in game tomorrow morning around 6 AM CET after the micropatch is deployed eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wot/hot-issues/10762/ - Dwigt

[@Roymyboy-di8rg]

Welp. This tech tree was an absolute flop looking back 😅

[@janmielczarek3371]

nice

[@littlebraziliandaddyinunde8441]

Omg finaly a New hull down god Edit.: Use the like in This comment as a dislike botton

[@Stricek_Jura]

Sorry, but last tiers (IX and X) look like Jar-Jar Binks, and that is a popular character 😆

[@nikku879]

They are already in wot blitz and the line is pretty broken....

[@masterkaljami6822]

BT-42 that can drive faster on hard terrain without tracks when?

[@nimrodrovo440]

dont give them ideas they will make it tier 2 and have the stats of the normal tank with higher speed

[@radiskubis]

I wanted to ask why do I still have the wrong players in the team and have to lose? I've had it like this for 5 days

[@n1kolamaxxa05]

Soo should I grind t1 heavy?

[@HOMEP_1]

Yes

[@adammoore251]

You should of started months ago when it was announced.

[@jerryisgaming6571]

Anyone knows how much XP we need on the T1 to start with the tier 6?

[@n1kolamaxxa05]

@@HOMEP_1 ok thanks

[@n1kolamaxxa05]

@@adammoore251 sorry dude i didnt know

[@fuzzie_4732]

Question here: How does track assist work against these tanks? Do you have to shoot down all it's reserve tracks or the normal ones are also fine?

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

The tank needs to be totally stopped to count some assist damage. Cheers! -DelhRoh

[@igoryst3049]

Ratte was not even seriously considered while those tanks are already more real than many tanks in game

[@AndyChipling]

so where are the codes in this video then?

[@jean-lucpicard5510]

"New tanks" 00:22 That is a T-57.

[@MrLayerCake1]

Wargaming starts to heavily destruct the complete WOT-era! :(

[@SmartenSVK]

OOOOh i will have cripling depresion form this.

[@adasd9494]

Well well.... Sorry WG, but why not focusing to fix the existing problems, before creating new ones ?

[@MrGilla]

Im playing this game for 6 years and its still fun to play. Maybe you should add DUTCH tanks!

[@ravazoid469]

Or how about they make the game "even more" fun by listening to the community?

[@pavelsoukup3095]

im tough boy, but this thing, it scares me

[@kingstoler]

Nice!

[@Josh_5511]

Alr the line is different on blitz huh

[@vexboo4250]

forgot to run it through test servers tho

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

No, we did not have the need this time. You can always research the tanks directly in-game and we´ll be more than happy to listen to your feedback! Cheers! -DelhRoh

[@wotnl8581]

starts this line after the T1-Heavy?

[@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel]

Exactly! Tier 6 will be the Pawlack Tank - more info here worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/brand-new-yoh-tanks/ - Dwigt

[@theguardlorenzo5898]

if it was russian they would had removed the commanders hatch

[@mauroscarinci3851]

Jaaaaa is true !!!!! Great comment !!!!!

[@nimrodrovo440]

@@jules55284 it would have another 6 reserve tracks and if you shoot them down they could just fly away

[@unbekannternr.1353]

We found the blueprints on a cornflakes box in an abandoned 1952 nuclear fallout shelter...🤣

[@viochrys]

Just a word from WoTBlitz player. *Goodluck*

[@slk979]

Whatever, rng decides which team wins anyway. None of those has no chance against lootbox tanks, n Bourasque will bounce them all ez. xd 💶+💴+💵+💷+💳=🍀🎲

[@remonrampage7136]

Maybe WG thinking if they do the Yoh's just like the wot blitz, the game will completely ruined, think about it : M-III-Y and all the way up will have autoloader with at most 3 shells, and 300 alpha dmg

[@bobkowalski7655]

5:45 Who the hell likes these tanks??

[@ady6022]

320 alpha at tier VIII and they call it impressive lol

[@thebearman7595]

Yeah - MIVY does the same with 360 alpha, they're not even trying to hide that tech tree tier 8s are only for getting the t9 and nothing else