Worlds Cheapest Off Road SPEED Build! ZD Racing Pirates 3 RC Car

It's not going to be the Worlds Fastest Off Road RC Car, but it's probably the cheapest! How fast can we go on a Budget?
This is not a cheap build, but it's a lot cheaper than most of the big players out there with their Arrma's, Teknos & Hobao Off Road Speed Monsters! I'm aiming for around a $300 Build!
Discount Code:BGSEP9021
Buy the ZD Racing Pirates 3 Kit here:
www.banggood.com/ZD-Racing-90...
120A Surpass Hobby 2-6s ESC:
www.banggood.com/Surpass-Hobb...
150A Surpass Hobby 2-6s ESC:
www.banggood.com/Surpass-Hobb...
1900Kv Racestar Motor:
www.banggood.com/Racerstar-40...
GPS Speed Meter (SkyRC GSM 020)
www.banggood.com/SKYRC-GSM020...
Cheap 25kg Servo :
www.banggood.com/DSSERVO-DS32...
Cheap Badland Style Wheels / Tyres:
www.banggood.com/2PCS-17mm-Ty...
DumbRC Controller:
www.banggood.com/DumboRC-X4-2...
Pinions:
www.banggood.com/5PCS-M1-5mm-...
ZD Racing Centre Diff (46t):
www.banggood.com/ZD-Racing-46...
My KZbin Tool: www.tubebuddy.com/youtube000
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[@KevinTalbotTV]

haha cool project might have to do a budget speed build myself. Update the app and you get the big speed reading :)

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... do a budget build 😉👌 Updated the App about 10mins after making this video haha, much easier to see now!

[@theaveragejoebody]

@@TomleyRC love this budget build great information and Kev you should absolutely do your own budget build. You guys seriously are a big part of this community. Appreciate you 🙏

[@martin3288]

Kevin Talbot yea do it

[@DaddyMakesCoffee]

Haha you watch other rc channels, cool!

[@TomleyRC]

@@DaddyMakesCoffee He only watches mine haha

[@miyamotosan972]

I got my pirates 3 buggie yesterday!

[@emiliorosa6402]

Definitely a budget build. I own the kraton 6s and the outcast 6s and I paid almost $830 out the door for each. That's why this is my favorite rc channel. Great job.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, agree.... some will see the $300 bit as say it's not cheap! But you try building an Arrma for less than $300 haha

[@emiliorosa6402]

Impossible. Repairing the $300 build would be a lot more affordable. I haven't run my arrma's. I'd rather crawl. Absolutely love hiking with my trucks. There's nothing like it to me.

[@ianmangham4570]

That's nasty

[@thepilotxproject4035]

The best RC project I've seen in 2020. Cheap, cheerful and really nice!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@thepilotxproject4035]

@@TomleyRC Keep up the good work!

[@O.L.D_RC]

Nice! I like the direction you've taken on this build mate. I love taking something somewhat capable and making it badass. Cheers!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers mate, yeah, I like to try different stuff

[@darrenrace7121]

You have changed my mind about these. they look loads of fun

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, hoping as we increase the speed it gets even better!

[@dennisnothstein1311]

Thanks for the great video again. It's nice that you're doing a budget build. Most videos I've seen the motor/esc combo is twice what my budget is for the whole car.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes Dennis... ESC's that cost the same as this car!

[@emiliorosa6402]

I pray that you don't take this the wrong way. I don't wish to be considered for the contest. I would like for it to go to someone looking to get into the rc world. God has blessed me. And I can get 1 myself when I get it on my list. Wpl has stepped up their game,so I'll give them my business again. You're up there with the best brother. Keep it up.

[@TomleyRC]

No...we are good mate. That's kind of you

[@emiliorosa6402]

You're welcome brother. I've been watching for a couple of years now so win or lose I'm staying. Lol

[@piston_7]

Just love this channel

[@JesseBMotors]

Can’t wait to see more on this build 👍🏁

[@TomleyRC]

Me too lol!

[@rcuintheshed6981]

That was impressive the way it handled one of the cool things about this hobby change an existing platform slightly and what a difference.... love the channel man always good content.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Mark. I try and do lots of different stuff for all :)

[@Blackspike85]

I'm really excited about this build. Looks like a good platform to work with.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes me too! New gearing arrives today... so I can get on with phase 2

[@miyamotosan972]

Kev really spends very much money on his RC's but he still makes great vids.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, he makes some entertaining stuff

[@christopherbautista6998]

Best part of the video is the montage.Really like it! Now looking forward for part 2!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@skipperstan]

Really love your channel Tomley, you are a really down to earth kind of guy, not at all big headed. Keep up the great videos!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate... I don't try to be any different than I am in real life and I'm sure those that have met me will agree. In fact, I'm probably a bit louder and more annoying in real life than on here hahaha

[@skipperstan]

@@TomleyRC You and I would get on very well. We are both the same generation, UK based (I'm in Cornwall) and both made about RC cars!

[@piston_7]

This car is blooming fast

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, it will be even faster next time!

[@piston_7]

@@TomleyRC yh man

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Cool build, great run

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate 🙃

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Check all the metal to metal screws, front suspension steering hubs, center drive shafts can jam use tubing as a spacer. All and all mine ran excellent and fast happy with it.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, agree

[@jayc2108]

Nice video mate. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Jay

[@TroyDagley]

That’s absolutely awesome, definitely is a great build for a great price, keep up the good work mate!

[@TomleyRC]

Thank you Troy 🙂

[@filiped7298]

Dream build 😲😲

[@RCSomething]

Kek, that Austin Powers doll made me smile. Nice build tho. "Power by name, Power by reputation"

[@TomleyRC]

haha... he's ready for a scale build I'm doing

[@bobmann8817]

I was sure something had to be wrong for the price and the amount of aluminum on that thing. And once again this is what I'm talking about you basically are our option to try before you buy. Now I've seen you run it I won't hesitate so much to buy. Thanks for another great vid.

[@TomleyRC]

No worries Bob

[@bobmann8817]

@@TomleyRC I don't want to be a bother but I had a question for you since you are a fan of WPL do you or have you ever used the internal wheel weights? If so have you seen any positive or negative effects I would think that since it is moving Mass instead of stationary that it would be harder on the motor brake.

[@tahayt6142]

Na it's not to much its 250 for the RTR version

[@rcclan]

Glad you did this be really cant wait to see the difference now when done

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@Fonzierc]

That's is something I would buy great build imo . loving the cheesy jocks😂

[@TomleyRC]

I like to build this sort of stuff.

[@dexterbeattie7884]

Arrgg!! I like the look.

[@rogueFactor]

my man... nice edit. great progressive house track yet again! (I'm not an intl dj but I play one in real life)

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate. Music is always an issue... some like it, some don't.... others like rock... etc....

[@user-tv1vy5ce6t]

Love the old videos

[@MarkBryanRC]

I'd call that a success too, Phil! Love the rig, you did a great job mate - looking forward to the upgrades! All the best, dude! :))

[@rcpd3157]

Seems like a great plan! Great video.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@1Himiko7Toga]

That looks nice

[@brucetheukuleleteacher9008]

It was good to see you at the skatepark that day. Looking forward to part 2. 👍

[@TomleyRC]

And you mate! Cheers for the heads up about the Backies, going to have a trip over there next week sometime

[@brucetheukuleleteacher9008]

Hit me up if you’re out and need someone to help film you 👍

[@sustorres765]

Looking forward to part 2 this was a great episode, quality info cheers

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude. Hopefully part 2 will be out next week

[@sustorres765]

@@TomleyRC wow can’t wait 👌thanks for the reply

[@rcflashcars]

cool! 👍

[@GDotz172]

Recently got the pirate 2, 150a esc, 2050kv motor, same servo and a dumbo Rc transmitter... definitely was cheap compared to 1/8 alternatives!

[@GDotz172]

Also zop power 3s 4500mah 45c £21 on ebay

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

Sweet looking forward to 👍👍👍👍

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@steveclough6794]

your best bet is dhk zombie or maxinmus not without there problems but plenty of spares and pretty darn cheap if you go used on ebay

[@piston_7]

I wish i had an rc car. I love rc cars wish I had one 😭

[@dylansarna8750]

Buy one

[@piston_7]

@@dylansarna8750 kk

[@keepitscalestupid]

Hey man, since 2016 I could only wish as well but got my first rc car this summer a Red Cat stock car, it's slow but I'm happy you'll get there too ok don't give up ✌️

[@piston_7]

@@keepitscalestupid thanks man

[@DroneMee]

@@dylansarna8750 wow what a revolutionary idea. Almost like there may be a reason they can't huh. If you dont get it then just understand it... right?

[@tomshetty7992]

mowing the lawn with thing and leaving track marks!😎🤙👍

[@TomleyRC]

haha..yeah, it was quite funny leaving circles over the field

[@jhawk1985]

When you run this car with the bigger wheels you will like it better. I have a Hobao SS Truggy with 6s and Its so much more fun with bigger wheels and tires. Wheelies like crazy and jumps and lands so well

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, but this is a Speed build. 😎👍

[@PakWahyu]

really nice bro🤩🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍👍

[@angelteamnolimit624]

Ima get one just to put a mmx8s small 4050 tp motor and standing backflips here we go lol and if you wanna go speed build wheels grp or foams and drop her down would be interesting

[@TomleyRC]

haha.... RIP

[@TBO207]

Surpass hobby motors are great but if you can get ahold of even an older 6s castle esc it really wakes them up and allow for alot wider aray of tuning options

[@rjourdan161]

Lol the 300$ 1/8 rc challenge. We can put it up against the redcat landslide. Lol .

[@yendra_efendi]

Nice Vidio friends 👍🤗

[@stormycannon8904]

Coolio bro I need to do this to my brushed typhon it’s just so slow,especially after the wltoys buggy omg so much better and fun as well you know!!!!!!!!🤓🤩

[@gonzodetroitify]

Jubbly😉😎🏁

[@janvio]

To have a clearer view of the gps results you can always take a screenshot of them via your smartphone then insert it during the edit ;) Nice rig btw

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I usually do that. Although just updated the App and now it's a nice big 'Top Speed' display :)

[@camrowdrone6497]

Let’s see it driving with the stock wheels 👊🏻👍🏻

[@modelnutty6503]

might be with those shorter tires it'd be really happy with 2000kv for 4S and do 38-39 mph with the same pinion gear. the shorter height is nice, GRASS usually always grabs and rolls an RC and this is super resistant to that, it'll have no problems like that on a dirt track.

[@icabodpsillycyberman414]

Looks like a lot of laughs-looking forward to pt2! How does the pirates 3 compare to the jlb cheetah (120A)?

[@TomleyRC]

Once I get better gearing in I think it will be more comparable. But I’d say it is built a little tougher

[@gamebosan5965]

How performance for zd truggy

[@Del350K4]

Well, you´ve proved that yiu´ve built a very stable platform with no obvious vices - it´ll be interesting to see what it does next...

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, although not the cheapest build I've done, it's easily half the price of an equivalent Arrma build. And the low, wide stance will hopefully help it stay on the ground!

[@Del350K4]

@@TomleyRC I have great faith!

[@stevec821]

I thought you’d farted 😆 had to rewind to see you’d knocked something off the table 👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

hahahahahaha

[@EJ-74]

Ya need to make ya a few cross over connectors to run your batteries with different types of connectors Cool build mate ✌️

[@TomleyRC]

I'm not a fan of adaptors. They're ok for smaller stuff that doesn't draw much current, but bigger stuff needs a decent connector for the heat

[@tomstc]

Beat me too it, looks good

[@TomleyRC]

Looking fprward to seeing yours

[@tomstc]

@@TomleyRC cheers, just going for as it is out of the box see what dies. Got the DUMBORC transmitter during the week, trouble is bit poorly at the moment so can't make vids

[@TomleyRC]

TomsTube Chan Hope you get better soon mate. I’ll watch out for the video to drop 😎

[@dannywalker6279]

Nice video I'm thinking of getting the kraton exb do you think it would be worth it to use these electronics or similar inexpensive ones or do you think it would be worth it to just pay more and get the proven name brands thank you

[@TomleyRC]

I'd probably get some better electronics...it deserves it lol (but nothing really wrong with stuff in this)

[@beypudd]

Hello I've just purchased this kit. What oil do you recommend for the difs?

[@alastairgoddin5195]

Are the mechanicals the same as the ZD racing 9203 short course truck you had? Not sure how much is shared between the zd racing stuf - diffs, chassis, shocks, shock towers?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes pretty much... although the shock on this have beefier springs , and the arms are longer etc... but I'd say it's all compatible

[@lukedavis4213]

I'm looking at these or the JLB Cheetah as a bit of a basher, got some friends with Arrmas and these seem a cheaper way of being able to join in!

[@TomleyRC]

JLB Cheetah is a good choice.... or the Bison V3

[@skyekaptain8010]

The quality of these isn't comparable to bigger brands,at least not for big jumps,all the hinge pins bend,and shock pistons break in any decent amount of bashing

[@xKevmachinex]

Great video, I hope your truck is holding up. I have the exact same one and got around 20 hours on mines. However now I am in need of help and im hoping maybe you can help me if ya don't mind. I can't figure out what the part number or name is but on the center diff there are these cup like things where the t bone arms go into. I guess from driving it hard or just wear over time not sure these cups are getting chewed up and now theres some cracking going on and I fear it won't be long until one of the cups on the center diff simply breaks off. are these cups the same as the cups on the rear and front diffs are are there specific ones for the center diff if you know thanks.

[@TomleyRC]

Seems to be holding up ok for now! The easiest thing to do is buy a compete centre diff. They are not to expensive.

[@craighallett5007]

Great video! I really like the truck. How do you set that speed control? No manual with it.

[@TomleyRC]

Plug & Play pretty much mate

[@johnsalt19]

Hi t.g that suzuki carry truck i was off to ask you on that vid but you said it messes things up for the comp so i came on here to ask you what was the truck chassis off that you used

[@TomleyRC]

Hello mate. WPL B14 Chassis 👍

[@ianbudgetrc2574]

With such power the center differential cups could strip quickly. The dogbones will destroy them in the long run. But still really fast! I converted mine to 8s and only managed 53mph coz Its so unstable

[@TomleyRC]

I got my SC-8 up to 52mph on 6s.... hoping for 60mph with this. Hoping it will last a couple of runs at least lol

[@OctaneFever]

Great build, what servo and transmitter housing did you use?

[@TomleyRC]

Cheap 25kg Servo from Banggood. And a DumboRC Controller. Links should be in the description

[@danielmarskell1387]

What a car

[@geevintv6689]

This truggy is a lot of fun. Wish I had one. They just don't come cheap here in the Philippines😭😭😭😭

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, it's not cheap... but cheaper than the competition

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Faster than a 100000 dollar Tesla nice. Handling is the sway bars.

[@TomleyRC]

Way faster lol

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

@@TomleyRC I have a Pirate 3 MT I put a 3670 2260kv, and surpass 120amp ESC. Yes very fast on 4s. Roller cost 199, motor esc 65, reciver 10. Worth it.

[@billy3650]

How'd you get the power bar for your battery ?

[@felixmella5817]

En donde compraste los aros ?

[@lutgardis613]

Would these wheels handle jumps?

[@joefranklin7345]

Wow very cool!! Hey I ordered a servo like that to use in a slash. Didn't realize when I ordered it that it's a 270° servo. Do you know if it really matters that it's 270°?

[@TomleyRC]

As long as you can set the end points you should be good

[@joefranklin7345]

Hmm... Don't think I can. Thank You!!

[@justinfahn6615]

Hi kev

[@TomleyRC]

Phil

[@user-mz8uc9sc1o]

Wels diff Öl hast du drin?

[@jonthomas8487]

Do the ZD vehicles still have center diff issues? Thoughts on that subject? Maybe just put thicker diff fluid in the center diff

[@TomleyRC]

My SC-8 has never had an issue. Although I did take it apart and put thicker oil in

[@jonthomas8487]

Tomley RC could be the deal

[@MahirAlom-f1e]

The wheels are sold out any where else I can grab them at ?

[@skyekaptain8010]

Don't jump it lol, but still a sweet build.💥🚀

[@Hirthirthirt]

How does .the Surpass-products hold up? Bought a 3670 motor from them and would like to get an ESC as well.

[@TomleyRC]

I've had good experiences with them. Hopefully the ESC's will hold up to 6s!

[@martin3288]

Tomley RC i would change the connector first before running 6s, deans/t-style connectors is really only for 2-4s

[@robsrcjourney970]

Gutted I sold mine was awesome on 3s and stupid on 4s. Straight out the box. Only sold because parts are all bangood aliba etc.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, always and issue with parts. Worth getting a few bits in ready for when they break lol

[@rainstorm5245]

🤪🤪🤪😳😳😳👀👀👀...WOWWW... No need for a lawn mower...👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@IggyBiggy]

will this fit a 540 motor?

[@philthyco1]

I thought about getting the on road kit with out the electronics and doing the same ..It's under $180..Good idea bro

[@philthyco1]

The truggy is nice!!!..Make sure to adjust the preload this time bro lol..My ZD SC-8 came with that King Kong 120 amp ESC and the dumbo rc 4 channels transmitter and 6 channel receiver..The ESC seems good and programs with OCday or Gool RC programming cards

[@TomleyRC]

I replied on your video.... your SC-8 has better (stronger) springs than mine, hence I had issues ;)

[@philthyco1]

@@TomleyRC Lol!!..I was just giving you shit brotha lol..I was waiting for you to watch it lol..Yes, the new version seems to have better springs,ESC and Transmitter than the previous version..I ordered the same pinions that you did on this build for the SC-8..Do you still have the SC-8?

[@TomleyRC]

PhilthyCo RC Yeah haha...like I said on your video... I can take a hit haha. But seriously, my shocks springs were terrible. Had to put some heavy oil in and wind them right up to get it to sit properly. This one... silky, as you can see 😎

[@philthyco1]

@@TomleyRC Lol..Yea The new set up is much better..It's good to see that ZD is upgrading as they go

[@robsrcjourney970]

How's the arrma Nero 6s transformation doing Phil keep following the channel and waiting for it but never hear anything. Sad I sold it so if it comes available please let me know.

[@TomleyRC]

I move dit on mate. It sat on the shelf in bits for so long, I decided to let someone else have it. I'm hoping a 'NIB' one will come up at some point!

[@carloshnunez]

It even cut grass 👍👍👍

[@TomleyRC]

lol yeah

[@emiliorosa6402]

Quick question. How's the sg12 ripsaw knock off? I'm about to pull the trigger. You know for pictures with my t-rex chasing it. Lol

[@TomleyRC]

Awaiting upgraded electronics. Hoping to get it done ready for the winter!

[@emiliorosa6402]

Did you see that Eachin came out with an orange version that comes with lights in the front as well as on top. I don't like the color.

[@TomleyRC]

Emilio rosa Yes I did. Not sure if they upgraded anything else on it?

[@emiliorosa6402]

No they didn't just the 2 lights in the front come on. I have to get 1 very soon. I have 2 project trucks at the moment. Definitely not getting the orange 1.

[@Ziggiep09yt]

Hi

[@TomleyRC]

Hi

[@Ziggiep09yt]

👍🏼

[@joshchatwin8179]

I’ll be getting one of these to add to my collection

[@bradburybadboi]

Whats so bad about deans connectors? Genuine question.

[@ShadeTree_RC]

150a esc deans connector rated for 60a....no go 😁

[@andrewedward3839]

Why when you know it's getting hot and can't handle it do you carry on and smoke the motor??

[@treykardum3378]

Has anyone got a link for good ties

[@fransrcgarage6997]

I think i ll get one of these, Are they durable Because i can’t find all of the parts

[@fransrcgarage6997]

Can i bash it anything more than medium ( 20 feet high) without apsolutely killing them?

[@TomleyRC]

20 feet is pretty high dude... as long as it's on grass

[@coledaddy818]

Is this still worth the money as of now?

[@GyuHobbyRC]

I enjoyed a great video let's be friends 😁😁🤩🤩🤩 우리 친구 해요~~~~^^

[@smitheshn6637]

500K in the rear is too much.. rear should be much lighter rite?

[@TomleyRC]

I want traction, so thicker oil is good. If I was ‘bashing’ this then I’d go for a lighter oil

[@asiacuisine4869]

How the hell it makes that on-the-spot spinning??!

[@TomleyRC]

Wide stance...small wheels.... good diff oil!

[@justinfahn6615]

I was saying hi to kev in the comments I said hi to kevin talbot

[@TomleyRC]

Ok, you should have said it on his comment. He’d maybe see it that way 😎

[@chrisglennon9409]

Any chance of a link to the GPS device - love it? Thanks

[@TomleyRC]

It's now in the description. Forgot to add it :)

[@chrisglennon9409]

@@TomleyRC Many thanks - loving the channel

[@TomleyRC]

Chris Glennon No worries mate 👍🏻

[@Grubbet]

even a big budget is a budget lol

[@TheBestOrion]

4th

[@Appel007]

Everything is more expensive now? It seems like it is.