Building the UK's Fastest Off Road RC Car! - [On a Budget] - 6s FAIL! Part 2

Part 2: 6s Speed Run Fail! This Cheap RC Car build is getting expensive! The Total build cost is now around £300... but still...
....it's a lot cheaper than most of the big players out there with their Arrma's, Teknos & Hobao Off Road Speed Monsters!
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[@brandonmathis1335]

Found you when I was looking for an rc fix between Kevin Talbot videos. Glad I did. Love the content presented with a positive attitude. Keep it up!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers mate. I like to try and get some variety on the channel. Thanks for the support. I can’t do entertainment as well as Kev, but I have fun with these type of projects 😎👍

[@marsbase3729]

@@TomleyRC appreciate your effort mate. You've got a good take on RC's and make it fun. 👍😎👍

[@TomleyRC]

@Marcel Schuller Thanks dude

[@THYC]

"We could have a fire on our hands here, but let's keep going!" 😂😂😂😂👏

[@TomleyRC]

Hahahahaha

[@Ekzt21]

I am an artist , and see you working at your garage just showed me that what really matters is enjoy what you are doing, I always knew that , but something clicked this time. Thanks

[@TomleyRC]

Thank you. For me it's not always about fancy edits and studios.... it's about making stuff and having fun

[@TX-ml2pk]

amazing i agree u have no idea how fortunate u r to have life like that doing wat u love and just enjoying it hope u the best

[@jameswilliams2633]

Awesome content again buddy! Laughed at the "Kev" style drop off the table 🤣. Look forward to the next one. Stay safe mate

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

If youre using the 4068 racerstar 1900kv, i had issues with mine straight from the start, try the surpass hobby motors

[@craigpoer]

This is fun. Anyone can build a stupid fast car for $3000. Doing it for $400 is the real challenge. Different motor might get you there. Great video

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Craig... I like to do little projects like this. Easy to throw the best of everything in and go from there. I like a challenge!

[@piston_7]

Love the look of this rc car

[@RCModSquad]

It does look really cool. I’ll be watching to see what happens next. 👍🏻

[@DomsRCs]

Very cool, I like how you do more budget and cheaper reviews sometimes as it is In the price range for all. I like kevs vids but I kinda prefer your style of videos, dont tell him though lol

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate, I like to do affordable stuff. Kev’s nailed the entertainment bracket... I’m more for a bit of informative & mild entertainment 👍🏻

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

This. When I wanna veg out and watch without learning anything, I go to Kevin. If I wanna learn I come to Tomley

[@lyricalcoma1979]

I might get rid of my kraton 4s and get this one instead, it looks super easy to work on and super fun to bash, nice vid

[@TomleyRC]

4s Kraton is a nice truck. This is more inline with the 6s range

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful car, dude! Looks much better with those wheels! 😃 Didn't go that well on 6s, but... Who needs 6s? Just put a higher kv motors in there. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

I have a bigger motor to try.... so will gear down and see how it copes.

[@seb.9775]

Looks epic , the rear end looks jacked up a bit , it would be sick with hoons on it

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, front has been set lower on the droop screws to help keep the front down at speed. I may have to do a 'Hoon' Street Run with it

[@rcmindset2876]

It looks good! Cool video idea!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@gbraadnl]

The difference with the ESC is likely that they added a MOSFET which therefore increases the current they can switch. Most MOSFETs do 30A for each... hence the increase from 120 (4x) to 150 (5x).

[@ernestcoker6665]

I done did with a redcat gen 7 5200kv brushless motor 120amp esc dumborc 6x with a slipper clutch

[@stevenmillar8810]

mibby the new solid diff is putting to much stress on the motor no give

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah possibly, although I'd have expected it to be ok at speed...and only cog at low speeds. I'll throw the other one in when I change the motor and try it that way first 😎👍

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Amazing, amazing video and truck!!! Congrats Bro!! Yeaaah!!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@TheNathan643]

Slick looking bro really is... 👍👍👍

[@RCunexttuesday]

BuT LeTs KeEp GoInG!🤣👍🏼 We had the 4076 motor turn up this morning, going to have to keep an eye on it now cheers tomley😤😂 we stuck that 150a esc in the Maxx, unprogrammed it made that thing move🤯

[@TomleyRC]

I suppose it depends what you are putting it in. The gearing on this was not ideal lol. Was fine with the 13t Pinion. I have a cheap 4585 Rocket motor that I’m hoping will fit... it’s a monster!

[@britishrcplayground4929]

I think Kevin Talbot would win this off-road thing with his off-road arrma typhon 😂

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah... how much has he spent on that haha. Could he beat me with a $350 Budget 😉👌

[@TheCatapultHunter]

No but it will go triple times as fast 😉😉

[@stevemoon2136]

*3 times as fast.

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

Hes reaching around 80 is the highest ive heard so far

[@joshchatwin8179]

I’m sure kevs one has hit close to 90

[@michaelfear4801]

I absolutely love the look of this one,

[@rcmindset2876]

It would be good tosee those two speed controls taken apart and see if you see what components are different on the boards that allows the 30amp difference. It would interesting.

[@ELValenin]

They're probably submerged in epoxy for waterproofing

[@malurt112]

EL Valenin You're right. Tried to take mine apart. Broke all the screwheads off, since they were stuck in epoxy.

[@rc_kars_beat865]

Just the look of the rc car is sick

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, agree.... it looks awesome!

[@gerardvailoces646]

man this truggy looks good!

[@filsdedieu100]

I like your videos .

[@gamebosan5965]

Love this design

[@Fonzierc]

If there is no fire it's okay 😂 shame about the motor . this is a great build

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, a fire would of made for a bit better entertainment 😎

[@Fonzierc]

@@TomleyRC Lol 😂 obviously

[@carloshnunez]

You should try to install dual motors and esc with big pinions and 6s

[@TomleyRC]

Trying to keep costs low on this one

[@carloshnunez]

@@TomleyRC Ok but if you want the world fastest one you have to try something like this, maybe if you find a different motor you can swap, also the grass is given allot of drag

[@DoRC]

Gearing down refers to reducing the overall gear ratio. Gearing up refers to increasing the overall gear ratio. Using the terms to describe changing physical gear sizes is ambiguous because youcan increase one gear or decrease its mating gear to achieve the same purpose.

[@DriftomaniacsRC]

11:28 you're right that didn't sound nice, I'm thinking twin power hobby turbo fan on the motor, and a single power hobby turbo fan on the esc would help a lot, if it's cooler it'll run more efficiently. Although I'm thinking bigger esc and new motor! Stay safe my friend

[@TomleyRC]

I have a big 4585 1580kv motor that I’m hoping will fit! That should move this along with all that torque!

[@ScarpeonlineOrg]

I like your experiments :D

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers mate. I really enjoy doing these kind of builds

[@BigBRC]

Not bad at all for the budget 👌

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, although not really cheap, it's about half the price of the big names

[@malurt112]

Damn, I was hoping it could take 6S. I have the Pirates 2 V3 monster truck and had the exact same issue. 4S no problem. 6S cogging inconsistently, in the middle of a cogging pass I suddenly had full 6S power. This was with 30mm axle extenders and E-Revo wheels on, 11 tooth pinion and the stock 4074 orange motor. It ended in a severely grinded pinion which locked the car at 40 mph, and that was the last time I ever tried 6S. And anyways, the crazy balooning on 4S, pretty much meant the massive Louise E-Revo tyres would have caught each other at a speed, I'm not wanting to try my luck on.

[@malurt112]

The ESC still works a year later, having a great time in a Slash 4x4 never exceeding 3S on the stock Velineon. I really want to love the Pirates truck, but it takes alot of maintaining compared to the Slash. But when take the price into consideration, I had to get it. It was my first Banggood product, delivered in less than a week, RTR for 170£. Very impressive, but the stock wheels was the lowest possible quality and broke on the third jump, which was no more than half a meter.. My truck have always had a grinding metallic noise(not gear mesh) and on it's last outing the front diff had to throw in the towel. It's now sitting on a shelf waiting on parts, so I'm guessing next year.

[@TomleyRC]

Pretty sure the motor is the issue. Have a bigger motor to try next

[@malurt112]

Tomley RC I look forward to that video and hope you’re right. I really like the handling of the Pirates truck when the wheels are reduced to 100mm diameter. I have not given up on it yet, cause when I drive it, I love it. But now in the shed, it’s just sitting there, constant reminding me of banggood shipping times😩

[@neilwalmsley79]

Sticking 25.2v through a 23v max crappy Banggood motor. To be expected on grass even though you’re not quite maxing out the RPM. You’ll get more out of a higher kV 4s rated setup using motors from bangers. 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Big boy motor going in soon. Should handle the power 🤘

[@luigibellantoni6828]

Go for the 1700kv 4076 of you want to run 6s. The 2000kv is definitely pushing it at that voltage

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

Tomley, i run the 150a and 2250kv 4076 surpass on 15t pinion and i get 47 running the pin spike truggy on a curved short run, running 2 2s 5000mah 45c, its a capable system

[@TomleyRC]

Good set up 👌

[@marsbase3729]

Awesome car, but wow that esc fan is loud. It's like an off road hoover. 😆

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@thierrymaillard820]

It’s quite a special design 👍

[@RCSomething]

C'est moche. Mais c'est drôle :)

[@shanemcclain8562]

When are u running this again I think it's still got more in it and I love watching ur videos like this

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

If i couls get the 1/10 scale zd zmt10 diffs holding up i think it could break around 60 or 70

[@randomrc4198]

Can you make a full metal wltoys a959 brushless

[@TomleyRC]

Maybe :)

[@ScarpeonlineOrg]

I love the A959 it is a little demon!

[@randomrc4198]

@@ScarpeonlineOrg yeah I'm wait for all the metal parts to turn up for mine and I'm putting a 1/10 motor in mine

[@gbraadnl]

Got several, like A949 (narrow), A969, A979 (9 in total). Only use a metal bottom plate on most. The rest is unnecessary, unless you put an oversized brushless motor in. I would expect it being heavier and hard to handle nonetheless. So far, I didnt deem it worthy .

[@randomrc4198]

@@gbraadnl Well that's the best thing about this hobby if the motor is to powerful I'll put a smaller metal one in

[@scot0811]

Brilliant video! Edit: I would like to ask , at what stage did banggood start to send rcs to you for review ? Looking to start from my c241

[@TomleyRC]

About 2yrs ago mate. Had around 1k subscribers

[@scot0811]

@@TomleyRC Thanks mate!

[@xKevmachinex]

got the pirates2 with a 2200kv and 120 amp. things lasted about 20 runs so far. only issue was a screw on bottom tray came out just replaced it. always check tires too make sure they are good this thing has a habbit of losing from time to time. my only real complant is ya cant drive mine on roads with rocks or small stones. drove on gravel road and slightly bent one of my rear T axles a rock got jammed up. could make some home made gaurds to help. i only run large 3s. 8400 mah.

[@Thebramforpresident1]

try Caster Racing ex 2 6s which cost about the same with ZD

[@rcalltypes8230]

I’d replace that motor, with something like a 4092 1600kv Or at least a 4082 size motor. 4068 is to small, for a Truggy doing the off-road speed runs. 4068 (1512) 4075 (1515) 4082 (1518) A cheap 4092, will get you good results on 6s off-road. With a budget in mind. Cheaper then any 50 series motors.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I think I have a 4082 I can try. At least I know the cheap ESC is good with 6s 👍🏻

[@rcalltypes8230]

@@TomleyRC Definitely try the 4082, if you have it. Keep up the good work 👍🏻😎

[@levestercornelius6630]

If you put a Cat-Pak on that 150A SurPass ESC it’s a MONSTER on 4s haven’t ran on 6s I have had 2 of them blow 🎉

[@sch0neDK]

Nice. i have the same car. Running it with a 4068 2650KV on 3S. Stock gearing. its only 50Km/t, but i think its plenty fast :-)

[@keyleengarcia4987]

Its the mortor not the esc i think cause the mortor doesnt take 6s from my experience

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it was the motor. New video coming soon. Big motor!

[@filiped7298]

Nice looking car. It could look even better with the biggest tires you can get

[@TomleyRC]

I will be doing a video with the big tyres 👍

[@M14armorer]

The Surpass Rocket motors are excellent, many times their lower end econo motors are little more than junk

[@TomleyRC]

I have one on order

[@benwainwright8458]

It's your motor . I run the same esc and 22t pinion on my 1/7 scale king motor rally car with no problem. I have a 4076 rocket motor and hit 60+mph with no over heating. I'm waiting for my roller to arrive it's the same so I will let you no how I get on . I have bought one of the 16s esc s of alliexpress for £175. So wish me look

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds a decent build! I have a couple of motors to try (still cheap so within the budget lol)

[@rchobbiesuk9492]

Great video!! Was this filmed on a gopro? It looks flawless!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, Hero 9 (4k 60fps). Although the little intro bit at the beginning was on my proper camera not a GoPro.

[@rchobbiesuk9492]

@@TomleyRC I thought that im still trying to get the right balance, my gopro 7black if I go 4k 60fps its only wide (fisheye) dose your 1 do this?

[@TomleyRC]

@@rchobbiesuk9492 Yes a little, but I crop it down a bit so it’s not as obvious. I also have a 7 Black... really good cameras 👍🏻

[@Cannabis_Connoisseur]

Seems like the Kraton 4s is only about 50 bucks more and a lot faster and better parts availability. I still wish I could get stuff like this just to experiment with in the US. Either shipping times are unreliable or the few company's that have them in stock try to mark them up so much an arrma ends up the same or cheaper and the places that sell them never have parts. Still love your content and thanks for showing some other options.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah the 4s is decent. But this is more comparable with the 6s range, but less than half the cost.

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Regardless 49mph is impressive on grass 50+ would be pavement. A 4076 2000kv the way to go with fanned heatsink

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, it is actually pretty fast! I think there is 60mph in it.... new motor going in soon

[@darrennixon1986]

Get the surpass hobby 4076 motor

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Could be motor over heating get heatsink and fan, at least 20000rpm fan

[@christianwornall1047]

Well just took my vxl rustler out up the field for a top speed run 62mph stock geaing and then put high speed geaing in got 77.5 MPH on the grass this thing is bonkers 62mph is enough 😜

[@jblflexyt8142]

whats the size of the esc? aliexpress says its 16cm by 10 cm by 6cm😂 i am trying to find a cheap 1 8 system for my 1 10 rc

[@rickwest9764]

Won't upping the kv of the motor fix it I use 4370kv on 3s and its doing similar speeds

[@TomleyRC]

Got to get the right balance between KV & Gearing/load. Lower KV higher gearing would work better

[@MauzyrockRC]

So was it the perhaps small looking can? or friction from diff? It looks like a mean machine...

[@justinjones5281]

Doesn’t push full 6s properly. What do you think. Seems as though this esc maxes out just over 4 s

[@smashrc8481]

Try a job chetah on 4s that would be cheaper and faster

[@gsxrfreak666]

Diffs are real poor quality on that car destroyed 5 diffs in 2 months

[@adopancia7445]

Nice! Do you remember the diameter of these wheels? I am trying to make some maths about gearing...

[@carbonara7246]

Hi again

[@TomleyRC]

Hi again :)

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

Hmmm never heard of a 120a esc being 6s capable. 150a yes. Hobbywing 120a only rated 4s.

[@TomleyRC]

I've not dared to try the 120a on 6s lol

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

Good thing! Lol. Good video 😁

[@gamebosan5965]

U should get motor 4076 2000kv 6s..

[@TomleyRC]

I have a pretty big motor ready for it

[@gamebosan5965]

@@TomleyRC nice. I hope it can archive 100mph

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Use a Redcat Kaiju 6s ESC or Arrma

[@TomleyRC]

Gotta keep the costs down. Even though I have a spare Max6 & an Arrma 185 BLX... I want to keep it in line with the concept of ‘budget’

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

@@TomleyRC Good deal Chap 4076 can be had for 30 usd

[@slysplasteringsly1012]

What speed was it with the big tyres. ?????. Just out of intrest

[@stevemoon2136]

I wonder what's the secret diff sauce...

[@rafinijean-michel2425]

Hello I received the truggy, the pinions and the differential ordered with your links I just ordered a Surpass 4076 2250kv motor and the big 150A ESC the big motor for the next one What is the pinion you would put with this motor and the differential ? Children will ride in 4S with this truggy The next buggy in 6S Unfortunately the wheels are no longer available

[@TomleyRC]

I’d go with maybe a 15 or 16... see how it goes

[@rafinijean-michel2425]

@@TomleyRC Thank you for the answer. Do you find the truggy solid?

[@tharunyadav4429]

Hi my frend you have any rc pats

[@kevinbernitz6580]

Would be interested in how fast this build goes on 4S with the original wheels too...

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I will be doing a run with the stock wheels at some point

[@fran.6496]

Will it be more of this car?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes 😎👍

[@mikelalkorta870]

1.900 kv .motor is not in stock. Can i have 2050kv? Thanks

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Need surpass 4076 2000kv

[@RockHash]

It looks nice but I gotta see the specs

[@TomleyRC]

Link in the description

[@mikelalkorta870]

Hello. Link to god batery ,ñlease? T,xt?

[@litrc7194]

Just keep it as a 4s buggy

[@TomleyRC]

I will once I've got as much speed out of it as possible

[@draganblastovicz7487]

Pretty worrying knowing you’re an aircraft electrician.. May I ask on witch airplanes you worked?

[@TomleyRC]

Why is it worrying? I’ve been one for 23yrs. I’m currently the Senior Wiring specialist for 4 different Aircraft types. I’ve done everything from Small Military Fast Jets to Passenger Aircraft. These are Toy cars... 😎

[@540_god.p5]

Hi

[@TomleyRC]

Hi

[@jaredstlouis5435]

It's your battery voltage dropping because your gearing is off. Lvc

[@toddwidelitz48]

Put that esc/motor in a better vehicle.

[@TomleyRC]

What would you suggest?

[@mikelalkorta870]

Can you put KZbin to translate other lenguaje.?tha ks

[@mehimrc1314]

Unfortunately that was a big fail,shame as your kev talbot only rival or so I've seen so far. Come dude you've got to do better,I know you've said budget but you'll have to dip in somewhere. My little cheetah out paces you on 3s just mind with 80amp ESC 15t pinion.

[@TomleyRC]

I’ve got a big ‘Rocket’ motor in my limitless... I’m sure it’s only about £40, that should be man enough. Next hurdle will be tyres

[@mehimrc1314]

@@TomleyRC sounds like a plan if the shoe fits why not. £40 is still budget,you'll probably need a new ESC and your wheel could be bigger. I lose a lot o speed when I drop from 140mm to 100mm wheels. Good luck with your tires

[@RockHash]

My BLX is a 185A and would never risk a 8S

[@TomleyRC]

The BLX185 are 150A

[@alantaylor2136]

Hi are your pinion mod 1 thanks in advance

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, Mod 1

[@FlyingPhilUK]

Not a 6s motor: Max Voltage: 23V(1900KV) 6s = 25.2V Fully charged

[@EG-vy2lm]

The motor died because it’s rated 4s. The 1900kv would have been perfect for that setup with 6s

[@keekay_cg32c7.r2]

Try a Castle system the Mamba Monster X with the 1515 motor combo is really good if not try get up to Kevin's level with the Mamba Monster X 8s and 1717 combo and run 8s ;)

[@TomleyRC]

‘On a Budget’ 😅

[@mikelalkorta870]

Sorry for my english

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

Looking forward too.. 👍

[@ohiovalleyboy8340]

Was it,... silly putty... it will break down over time, needs refilled every so often!! Il never use anything else!!

[@gsxrfreak666]

Why are your hands so high when driving the car looks weird

[@TomleyRC]

Checking the car is in shot on the GoPro 😅

[@DronePlayground]

💪👍👀🇭🇷

[@joshchatwin8179]

Them esc are junk bro motor is okay for price

[@TomleyRC]

Motor is the issue here. To much load on it. ESC seems ok so far

[@robertwhite_overton8898]

Jlb cheater motor

[@joshchatwin8179]

Sorry it’s not the fastest off road cuz kevs is

[@gbraadnl]

Did it? So far only seen part swapping

[@TomleyRC]

Kevs is also about 3 times the price. Purpose of this video is to do it on a budget... not to beat Kevin 😎