Worlds Fastest Zelos 36 (108mph) vs the original Zelos 36 w/ tech tips.

[@MrMad2424]

Watch the full unedited run of the Worlds Fastest Zelos 36 of any color here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYKmYo2Zd9-Hgrs

[@shaneswick7346]

Ok. I keep finding your videos and comments on places like rcgroups.com.... Your helping me learn my new boat. Thanks! I am a details freak, and I want to make sure everything is right before I take this thing to the water. I have completely gone over the boat out of the box. I snouged up several of the fasteners, inspected inside of haul with mirror, made two EC5 series jumpers for my four 5200 3S 80C hardcase packs, pulled out flex shafts and greased with marine grease. You told me in previous post to reinforce I/D where top meets sides (I saw pics on rcgroups.com of the one that split open). What product did you use? Resin or something? Also, I noticed the rudder had a nylon screw below the stainless one on top. Is this correct from factory? It didn't have nylon nut or anything hold it in??? I thought maybe the nylon is some sort of shear pin if it catches on something under the water. Thanks man!

[@shaneswick7346]

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[@shaneswick7346]

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[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! The nylon bolt is a sheer bolt and it should have a small nut on it as well. It's designed like that to break if you hit something. I used a very little two part marine foam and that's it.

[@shaneswick7346]

@@MrMad2424 Thanks. They forgot to put a nut on it!

[@rcsky775]

What a wonderful boat! 💯👍 Did you buy the 100 Mile Club sticker separately?

[@MrMad2424]

I made the decal on my cricut vinyl machine

[@rcsky775]

@@MrMad2424 Nice Bro! cool boat cool sticker

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks!

[@mildtowildrc7343]

Love your Videos

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks!

[@treyrahman]

Great video 👌🏼🤙🏼 just bought a Miss Gieco and been watching since the OG Zelos days 👌🏼🤙🏼also, what props are you using from Dasboata ? I will be purchasing and doing your zipwire tip 👌🏼 do you ever grease the shafts ? Thanks Brother.

[@MrMad2424]

Thx! Super geico props from dasbaota is what I use for this boat. Yes need to grease the shaft after ever 3-4 runs.

[@kruzbrown414]

Good info thanks man

[@MrMad2424]

No problem!

[@arnoldchildress8053]

Two beautiful bad to the Bone boats

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks!

[@DigitalCarAddict]

I have both as well. Love them. Just ran the Miss Geico 36 yesterday. GPS 78 mph 100% stock with stock props, no adjustments, on only two 3s batteries. I got 71 at first, then moved the batteries a little further back and got the 78. Only thing I've heard about there being differences in the hulls is just that the miss geico hull is a little thinner

[@MrMad2424]

Great boats. 78 is Awesome for an out of the box run.

[@DigitalCarAddict]

@@MrMad2424 what forum were you on again man? I know you're the expert and I'd love to get your opinion on some questions/concerns I had with these boats.

[@MrMad2424]

@@DigitalCarAddict www.rcgroups.com/racing-boats-electric-57/ forums.offshoreelectrics.com/forum.php

[@DigitalCarAddict]

@@MrMad2424 thanks man! What's your name on there?

[@MrMad2424]

MADRCER

[@OGPAPERBOY77]

I just built one since they are discontinued And only place i could find the struts was in the UK Love this boat Mines the Slowest on the planet Im not trying to wreck it Thats what my blackjack 42s are for 😂

[@MrMad2424]

Lol !! Thanks for watching!

[@jasonlafromboise839]

Wish u would do more building and tips. You r the only really good source for rc boats. I got a miss geico v3 29. All I can find is speed runs.

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks. I wish I had more time to do those videos on boats as well. Its hard having a real job also.

[@abigailmartinez1451]

Thanks to you I am now a proud owner of a zelos 36😎😎

[@MrMad2424]

Nice congrats!

[@mildtowildrc7343]

Man after trying to break 90mph this weekend on my Miss Geico 29 and flipped it.Popped to motor mount and made go ahead and order a MG36❤️👍Looking forward to getting it this week and playing with the beast👍

[@MrMad2424]

90 with a single 29 inch cat is a tough task. The 36 is a great boat.

[@GAPreviewsAtoZ]

Preach bro big facts let’s get it 👍🏾💯 Rcfam4life

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Big Bro!

[@miguelsalami]

Mr. Mad Is The Boss 👍👍💙

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@miguelsalami]

@@MrMad2424 ♥

[@jasongooden917]

Eagle Talon vs Mitsubishi Eclipse

[@MrMad2424]

Lol! Yes.

[@WhiteEagleMichigan]

I respect YOU so much. Thank you for putting up these videos. Cheers!

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks man. Appreciate that.

[@nikhoihodge3437]

Going to buy this boat next week. What do I need to get to get those kind of miles?What to I need to buy and where do I get it?

[@MrMad2424]

You have to tune the boat for these speeds. get your props from Chris Hoffmann [e-mail] is his email. He knows what you need.

[@valentinconstantin8070]

GREAT.'.m one of your subscribers. It will be GREAT if you make a video with your retriever RC boat.Lot.s of boaters have this issue....boat stall somewhere in the lake and...cry about how to get their babe to the shore. Thank you.

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! I might make one soon.

[@daiciuapostol79]

🙏First time youdo that, we appreciate 👍😁

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@kidonnitro]

Love watching your videos and getting the guys who can't do it all mad lol

[@MrMad2424]

I really appreciate that Bro! Yea sometimes the comments are better than the video...Hahaha!

[@kidonnitro]

@@MrMad2424 love it every time!! Scrolling through the comments is comical. But congratulations!! Wish I could get mine there lol

[@rcadventures4342]

Awesome love my Zelos 36, all your vids are great and informative keep up the good work...

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! Appreciate that.

[@pitbikecookracing3324]

I had a guy take my information as a joke about those flex shafts . The jokes on him . Thanks for looking out. You can’t beat experience . You have been there for. That means a lot brother. 👊

[@MrMad2424]

Bet he's buying new cables now...Lol. Thanks Bro!

[@AnthonyMaybrier-eo1dy]

The c Hoods are different zelos has a scoop

[@MrMad2424]

yes the old one has a scoop, other than that they are the same. Same size and both are interchangeable.

[@TheRCMaster]

These is something about that Geico paint scheme I really like, great side by side comparison and awesome video 👍

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro! Appreciate that!

[@az954rr]

What are the differences with the V2 lime green Miss Geico? Or are all the lime green Miss Geico Version-2? thanks

[@MrMad2424]

2 versions of miss geico. v1 and v1. the yellow zelos was the original zelos.

[@az954rr]

@@MrMad2424 what are the specific differences from V1 to V2? To me, all I see is Tx & Rx. V1: Tx Spektrum DX2E 2-ch, Rx Spektrum MR4000. V2: Tx Spektrum SLT3 3-ch, Rx Spektrum SR315. From what I can tell, motors, ESC, drives, and hull are same?

[@scooty8877]

Totally awesome .... It looks like a real water speed record boat. Love it. Thank you for sharing. Fabulous location too.

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks man!

[@pcooper985]

You've got a lovely pair Bro.

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@pcooper985]

@@MrMad2424 Mark it's killing me waiting for the Zonda.

[@MrMad2424]

You'll get it soon and it will be worth the wait.

[@rcsfinest1883]

Yes sir great job with both boats keep them speeds coming Mark

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@UDRC85]

Great information and awesome boat brother. 💯👊🏾🔥

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@bigpoppapaulsradiocontroll2724]

There actually is nothing cooler than rc powerboats 💯💪

[@MrMad2424]

Love them Boats! Appreciate the comment Bro!

[@bigpoppapaulsradiocontroll2724]

@@MrMad2424 no worrys bro love watching your stuff I've only one boat 6s spartan and love it but you take them to next level 👍

[@MrMad2424]

Appreciate that Bro! I give it my best.

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Awesome boats nice tips

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks Bro!

[@jevymorris5909]

What 6s battery would be ideal for the o.g zelos

[@MrMad2424]

I'd run 4-3s packs. Revolectrix are good packs or some good quality high c rated packs in the 5,000-6,000mAh range.

[@paulchamberlain3359]

Can you show your tuning

[@MrMad2424]

depends on water conditions and what prop i'm running. I run 4-3s 5000mah packs though.

[@BitcoinGTR]

Lets go bro! You're too legit!

[@MrMad2424]

Appreciate that Bro!

[@fveestudiosdjfrankiefedora5475]

Thank you for sharing. I have the old Miss Gieco 29 great fun boat, those boats must be amazing go run. I also have the Traxxas Spartan & traxxas m41.. I never ran them , my next boat will be 1 of yours shown. Thank you

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! The Yellow Zelos has been discontinued

[@fveestudiosdjfrankiefedora5475]

@@MrMad2424 ok. Thanks for info. I have two boats I am hoping to take them for there first run this thursday. On long island in New York it's tough to find a great spot so may just run them salt water. More options.

[@fveestudiosdjfrankiefedora5475]

@@MrMad2424 I had my 1st run yesterday with traxxas spartus.. was great. It flipped though. Took in alot.of water. Ran it after but kept taking in alot of water. What you think. Please see my video on my page

[@GrimLotus]

Same hull, but I noted the coolant exhaust is a different configuration.

[@MrMad2424]

Yes it comes out the side of the yellow one and out the top of the new Geico version.

[@veedubin187]

Awesome Run!! Did you ever upgrade the flex shafts in this boat at all anytime? Also, where did you get that 100+ mph club sticker? That's gotta add some HP

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! LOL! I made the decal on my cricut vinyl machine. Stock flex shafts on both of these boat's are great. That's what I run on these.

[@TonysRcTechboom]

Awesome info about the boats bro. Awesome paint Job to. So so Fast , really enjoyed every minute of this video bro 👍🇺🇸😎🇬🇧👍

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! Bro Appreciate that!

[@AtomicFrawg]

I love the videos. I would be awesome to hear your tech tips and setups for your different boats. I recently bought a sonicwake and 2 weeks later bought a Miss Geico for more speed. Im hooked!

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks man! Appreciate that I wish that I had more time to do those type of videos.

[@donaldkeathleyjr.9434]

You have your flex shafts running in upside down V facing forward /\ correct ?? So did you switch rotation on motors ?? My Geico came with opposite. Right motor turning ccw, left cw. Shafts are \ /looking from back.

[@MrMad2424]

To make a "V" facing foward correct. No didn't switch rotation.

[@donaldkeathleyjr.9434]

MrMad2424 out of the box my Geico was set up with left \spinning cw, right CCW /. Yours are opposite. At least that’s what I’m seeing in vid. Am I missing something here. Up close your right shaft looks \ . I enjoy your vids of your boats and speeds.

[@MrMad2424]

That's correct. Looking at the back of my boat my right shaft is \ that means the motor spins counter clockwise.

[@MrMad2424]

Left shaft is / means motors spins clockwise.

[@knutroald5332]

Quick question Mark😀 the bottomsurface of the zelos hull should be flat right? If you put a ruler across from the left sponson to the right the ruler should lay flat in the area where the ruler touches the hull right? There’s not supose to be uneven or gaps? My hull has a gap on the sponson side faceing in towards hull centerline.

[@MrMad2424]

For the most part yes. However, mine does have a few areas where you can see daylight around where the water intake ports are at.

[@knutroald5332]

MrMad2424 i see. In my case the gap is 1-2+mm along most of the pad(from alittlebit behind where the bow cuver flattens out and back to halfway onto the rear pads. At the very rear edge of the rear sponson it changes to both surfaces being slightly sloping to the same side . Kind of hard to explain. I have couple of testruns now, where i have exagerated strutangle and cg in an effort to observ the behavior.

[@MrMad2424]

@@knutroald5332 Mine's not like that.

[@knutroald5332]

Also the rear sponsonpads are not 100% paralell to each other in the lengthdirection. So if i set the strutangle by placing a ruler on the rear pad the strutangles end up slightly different

[@MrMad2424]

@@knutroald5332 They will be tolerances due to them being man made. It's not too big of an issue with the handling. The sponsons if they have "dips" or aren't square when laying a ruler on one sponson (in the center of them) then this causes porpoising but that can be fixes by blueprinting them. Most RTR have some of these but not worth fixing unless it's causing you major issues. Then you will want to sand and glass them over again

[@hunterspivey7527]

What mm up do you run your drives with stock props ? Super cool how well you get these boats running. Your vids pushed me to buy the miss Geico and I think you have sold me on das boata props too! You bring the miss geico and the prop guy to the surface for many people with these you tube videos, they should appreciate you!

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! Appreciate that. I only ran them one time I think the drives were around 2..5mm gap from them your straight edge on the bottom of the boat. Boat ran 80 with them like that with 4 3s lipos.

[@CoachD386]

Yessssir! Great info fam, boat coming soon not sure how soon but it’s coming! #rcfam4life™️

[@MrMad2424]

Can't wait! Appreciate that Big Bro!

[@MarkHahn]

I installed the motors from the Mis Geico 36 in my OG Zellos 36. I have been getting conflicting stories about the speeds. Everything else is stock besides the new motors. Its a lower KV motor but will I get faster runs? I haven't made it to the pond just yet this year. Im getting worried that the replacements aren't any better than the Zelos 36 original motors. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@MrMad2424]

The new 3674 1900kv are way more powerful than the 3650 2000kv motors. Way more power. Can spin a bigger prop without over heating as well which leads to more speed.

[@MarkHahn]

@@MrMad2424 Thanks man! You just made my day. The 400 dollar upgrade was totally worth it then 👍 if I can get my boat just half of what your pushing i will be a happy guy. Again, Thanks for the reply. Looking into those dosboata props now. I have the UL -19 and its a great boat as well. I may get one of these stronger motors for it. Its already too fast and hard to keep on the water. Im going to put some weight in the nose like you suggested. Im going to shoot for that 100mph club sticker 👍

[@MrMad2424]

Nice! If you don't go for 100mph then you'll never hit it. GO FOR IT!

[@SebastianLong]

I asked you probably a year or two ago about the difference between the two, but seeing it visually gives me a better understanding. The cooling definitely would be useful even though I've not seen temps higher than 123°. Looks like I could just swap out motors to make it as fast as the Miss Geico with the stock props. Like I said in the comment I posted a year or two ago, I'm not looking to go 100 mph, BUT it would be cool to hit it just once. Even though I probably won't ever try. I do want a better set of props though. I was told I'd be ok polishing and balancing my stock props, but I was interested in 3 blade with a little taller overall diameter. Anywho, Thanks a lot for visually showing the difference between the two. It's hard to differentiate between the two on Horizon Hobbies website.

[@MrMad2424]

No problem. Thanks for the comment!

[@ericfleckinger1449]

You should make a video and give us a breakdown on the strut set up

[@MrMad2424]

I'd really consider that if the haters would act somewhat civilized...LOL! I might do one sometime another, but now I got some new boats to run and test, so not much time at all for me now days.

[@bobaque70]

Your the man Mr Mad2424

[@MrMad2424]

Appreciate that Big Bro!

[@robbomber984]

So I need 53 more out of my impulse 32 ,I've got 55 si far on on that girl.

[@MrMad2424]

Nice!

[@Peviputguy90]

Amazing video, my rc boat worked well until the battery exploded, that made me feel so ANGRY $210 rc boat wasted

[@MrMad2424]

Thanks! Man that sucks on your boat.

[@Peviputguy90]

I know right now I don't have an rc boat anymore

[@MrMad2424]

that really sucks.

[@Peviputguy90]

It was my birthday present too,What should I do?!😶🤔

[@robertbrown5887]

what are the battery straps on the Geico? i did a bit of a cartwheel yesterday and the batteries tore off the straps and punched one motor off center enough to shear the flex drive. lucky i have foam fill which stopped the batteries exiting the hull.

[@MrMad2424]

They are the stock straps that come on the boat. I do have one very long one to go around them as well. But the stock ones are like 20x250mm I believe

[@robertbrown5887]

@@MrMad2424 thanks, i think i might have to look for tougher ones with my driving

[@MrMad2424]

@@robertbrown5887 Check out the RJX hobby ones with the metal buckle. amazon or ebay has them 250mm should be good to secure most 3s packs.

[@robertbrown5887]

@@MrMad2424 thanks I'll check them out

[@outdoortherapy6596]

Just placed an order for the super geico props, can't wait to get them. Can you explain what you did to stiffen up the hull or batteries trays?

[@MrMad2424]

check out rcgroups.com I posted some pictures on the geico 36 thread.

[@roady1710]

Just how would you know you're the fastest Zello on the planet you would claim that you're the fastest that anyone has ever advertised that makes more sense

[@MrMad2424]

Show me one faster and I won't claim it...That simple.

[@rattlecanonlexan836]

Great video. What would be the best way to get more run time. The lake I go to is nowhere near as big so no speed runs for me....full throttle is abt a second or 2

[@MrMad2424]

Appreciate that Bro! If you keep the Sonicwake on plane more it will get a lot longer run times. You and Big gap were letting the boat rest in the water too much and having to take off again. That's an amp drainer right there. Any Fast electric boat will only get around 5min run time without killing your packs. It's just the nature of the game.

[@rattlecanonlexan836]

@@MrMad2424 aaaah ok ok. Got tip right there. I appreciate that

[@MrMad2424]

@@rattlecanonlexan836 You bet Bro! You know where to find me at as well if you need anything else.

[@pcooper985]

Run your batteries in parallel instead of series. Boat will be a little slower but will run longer.

[@bobaque70]

Wonder if they/Horizon will put out another zelos 48 electric rc boat

[@MrMad2424]

I'm not sure.

[@demetriusd2812]

Any prop recommendations for the Zelos? Looking for a bit more top speed without killing the runtime. Thanks!

[@MrMad2424]

1815-17-45 might be what your looking for if you have the Miss Geico or 1715-17-45 if you have the Yello zelos.

[@nienepro477]

What makes the Geico 36 go faster than the OG Zelos 36? I can see the difference in drive strut length, but is that what makes the new Zelos go faster?

[@MrMad2424]

Geico version is faster because it's got more powerful motors.

[@kjd5777]

This is use garmin action cam?what about GPS?

[@MrMad2424]

GoPro Hero 7 Back and I use Garmin vivoactive and Canmore gps devices.

[@kjd5777]

@@MrMad2424 thank you my friend for your answer

[@knutroald5332]

If one might pickup a zelos, would it be possible to get in touch with you and get some guidance in setup and prop choice?

[@MrMad2424]

I will do my best. I'm on the rcgroups.com / OSE forums from time to time. Chris Hoffmann for the props [e-mail]

[@knutroald5332]

MrMad2424 cool🤘🏼😃 is your nick MrMad2424 on the forum to? And to adress things you mention in the video, by all means make "long boring" videos🥴 some of us(me) likes them👍🏼😌

[@knutroald5332]

One additional question: zelos 36 or the similare sized Zonda cat?

[@MrMad2424]

@@knutroald5332 Yes the Zelos is 36" hull and Zonda is 41"

[@knutroald5332]

MrMad2424 based on your experience with both, wich one do you prefer? Do either of them have any negative sides?

[@pedromonteiro2941]

What is the meaning of OG in "OG ZELOS" ?? Great run ! Cheers

[@MrMad2424]

Abbreviation that “used to mean Original Gangster.” or the first of something....Meaning in this video that it was the first Zelos to come out. Thanks!

[@outdoortherapy6596]

Whats the Garmin GPS you are using?

[@MrMad2424]

vivoactive

[@ijanmotoclubijanmotoclub9039]

omg that faster sir,can u share what prop u use n what size tq sir 💐💐

[@MrMad2424]

Sure! Dasboata Super Geico prop. Email him at [e-mail]

[@frankwilliams1981]

@@MrMad2424 great video, super gieco props for speed runs, what about some dasboata props for good speed and battery runs. Thx man. Also my batterys r on the small side. 6000mah gens ace 100c. Thinking of using a bigger battery as in weight. Maybe revolix bats. Do u use heavier bats for added weight in the front. Thank u sir.

[@MrMad2424]

@@frankwilliams1981 abc 1716-17-45 I just use standard sized batteries all good name brand are about the same.

[@frankwilliams1981]

@@MrMad2424 thx man appreciate it as always. Some body told me to use pour foam for miss geico hull. Thats if I'm intimidated to try inlays. Did u reinforce hulls on the zelos 36's.

[@Ktm250f]

I have the regular zelos 36. I got upgrade props for it and im struggling with keeping her on the water. Ive been gradually adjusting the angle of the struts downward to compensate, but do you have any tips or ways to help keep her on the water?

[@MrMad2424]

Run 4-3s lipos and add a little more negative angle on the drives.

[@tommurray8312]

@@MrMad2424 i run full negative, but its run at the beach, so theres often waves and bullshit going on

[@bobaque70]

Mines OG yellow

[@MrMad2424]

Good boat right there Bro!

[@roady1710]

I will definitely admit you have great speed runs they are great but you also state stock boat right out of the box but come on man they're not you did a prop you did a battery upgrade you did something otherwise everyone's gonna have one right...,?

[@MrMad2424]

Not unless they know how to set up a boat they're not going to be as fast as mine. Also no hobby grade boat comes with batteries.... My boats are all stock with just a simple prop swap.. The same batteries and props I run can be bought but no one still is getting the speeds I get so I would say no to your question that if someone else puts on theirs what mine has it may not do same as mine does.

[@roady1710]

@@MrMad2424 and logically mads that doesn't make a bit of sense there's something amiss there's something skewed in that statement come on man another thing I find funny is there's never anyone with you to verify exactly what you're doing but hey if no one else is interested in boating like you are you can't help that

[@MrMad2424]

@@roady1710 Ok man you win....I'm lying on all my videos🙄 ....Sorry you can't duplicate my speeds so you feel like coming on here talking crap....thanks buddy for the comment anyways..

[@roady1710]

@@MrMad2424 mads you're quite welcome guess what I don't have any of your boats all's right with the world

[@DavidReese2ndA]

The TFL Zonda is faster..

[@MrMad2424]

Yea my zonda at 113mph i'd say is.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5mzh5qmha6mZ5o

[@rcboatfanatic6807]

I missed the release

[@MrMad2424]

Geico been out for about a year and the Yellow one has been discontinued now.

[@fveestudiosdjfrankiefedora5475]

If anyone from long island New york or close by let me know where your running with no club. I will try eisenhower park .that's a nice lake.

[@MrMad2424]

good to know.

[@atlas-x5717]

Decks are the same. Don’t know about the hull being the same.

[@MrMad2424]

Did you watch the entire video? Don't think how I could show them any better unless I measured the entire boats on video. Horizon sells or sold them as "Zelos 36" RTR boats.