How Do WWII Reenactors Know If They've Been "Shot"?

[@untitled4542]

I'm "shot" whenever I can't be bothered anymore and want to take a nap. Seriously.

[@Adelina-293]

Me too.

[@jd3689]

Literally what I did at the last event I went to. I also made sure to take my hit in a nice shady spot against the treeline the GIs were hiding in at the expense of them shooting their rifles over my body. Still had a nice nap tho

[@TryPuttingItInRice]

based

[@the_Jimmyest_of_Jim]

If I ever get into reenacting, in a battle I'm goin' to walk out of cover, dodge a bullet then immediately get shot in the head. To show the audience that cockiness can get you killed very quickly.

[@markbuschbaum4151]

In civil war reenacting we’d do it whenever we were broke and wanted to save money on gunpowder and caps

[@Pigness7]

"you two run out there and get shot" now that's realism

[@lightning_11]

I was just coming here to comment on that hahaah

[@Rockbot-Inc.]

Yes

[@prawduhgee8834]

So basically it's the same rules that I used for "cops and robbers" as a kid. Of course you're always going to have that one kid that "dodges" or has a "bullet proof vest".

[@AmBlueMan]

Exactly

[@Ganondorffi]

Wait hold on you guys had "guns" in cops and robbers as a kid?!

[@lobsters12111]

​@Ganondorffi .... You didn't?

[@malthe236]

What is cops and robbers?

[@prawduhgee8834]

@malthe236 A game kids (used to) play where some kids pretend to be robbers and some other kids pretend to be police and arrest them. Now banned in some schools because it involves pretend gun play eg. Pointing a finger gun at someone and saying "bang bang, you're dead".

[@randoms2222]

i am a WW2 re-enactor. i am also a medic and i do say that some get "hit" like they really took one. i liked this video because i get this question from my family, and now i finally have an answer for them, thank you Mr. Wisdom.

[@YourAverageAbrams]

How would I join reenacting? It sounds pretty fun and I was thinking of getting into it

[@randoms2222]

@YourAverageAbrams see if there is a local re-enactment near you, they can usually be found at parades or just go to events. Sign up for one and start collecting a basic uniform, I'd recommend M43 stuff which is gonna cost some money but it's worth it. I got mines from at the front. Now I assume you want to be a riflemen, so gather stuff slowly, you'll also need a pistol belt, suspenders/belts, and a helmet of course. Ask your unit what patches you guys use and ask/buy one. Buy good shoes. I made the mistake of not buying them from a good source and they wore down in 3 months. So buy some from a source you could trust, don't forget to dub them. Have fun!

[@YourAverageAbrams]

@@randoms2222 thanks for the tips You go and have a good day Thank you

[@randoms2222]

@YourAverageAbrams thank you

[@MOLEY-v9x]

is it safe for me to assume you play medic in TF2?

[@Scarfy397]

In American Civil War, depending on size we usually determine on our own whether or not we'll go down with a volley. Officers will let us know if we either need to start taking hits or if we should slow it up. We try to time big hits involving multiple guys to cannon shots when we can, too. With tacticals it can get a little more complicated. Usually something gets brokered ahead of time between officers in regards to how many men go down per volley, based on event size, and how long until they can return to their unit as reinforcements.

[@danieljosiahcotton]

Well said.

[@westernstudios2484]

My group we eait gor the cannon ann all take the hit

[@robertlewis8295]

In my Civil War unit (when I was active) at one point the captain says "Larry, next time they shoot, you take a hit". A single soldier shoots at us and 2 guys wildly separated in the formation drop. After that we numbered the Larrys, so he would call out "Larry #3, take a hit on the next volley".

[@gordonlekfors2708]

what's the fun reenacting battles in which everyone dies like muppets?

[@gmodrules123456789]

Medic Gaming (civil war edition)

[@EchoesOfThePast_]

Behold. A reenactor's most asked question has been thoroughly answered.

[@Liamtrestuser_1456]

Bro I've been watching you since I was 6

[@SovereignRose]

Is that a real fire, food, water out weighs how do ya know if youve been hit

[@EchoesOfThePast_]

@Liamtrestuser_1456 glad to hear it!

[@deathsheir2035]

I even heard one reenactor say: Public re-enactments are for the purpose of the spectators. Add the oocassional screams of pain, when you're shot. Play wounded, but gauranteed to die. And for the truly morbid ones out there, if you find yourself dying close enough to the spectators, stutter, gurgle, and gag, for your mommy, or sweet heart back home, before going quiet.

[@jve-q6i]

That would traumatize the spectators😂

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

​@jve-q6iIf the goal is true historical re-enactment, then you don't want to make it look fun, lol

[@imoffciallyback..]

Your last private Reenactment was an absolute banger, please upload more content like that! I liked that it really showed the depths of how close you were in battle with Germans during ww2 and shows what they had to live like

[@boston9228]

Exactly. Would love to see more content like that.

[@WorldWarWisdom]

Thank you! I was really happy with that video too, and I have more like that coming soon.

[@imoffciallyback..]

@@WorldWarWisdom Lets Go Dude! For some reason it just gives me the feels of nostalgia even though I wasn't in the war lol

[@Lurch-Bot]

With modern technology, you could have a system for registering hits. You use a computer to calculate where a soldier's bullet would have impacted if they fired a live round and have a highly accurate local area tracking device on your person as well as sensors in key areas of your body to determine precise positioning of your body at that moment. The rest is relatively straightforward computer science and math. You don't even need to leverage AI to pull it off. You could even have several squibs on each soldier so if the system registers a hit, say, to the leg, a squib goes off on the leg. This would also enable a level of realism never before attained in reenactments because you would have the appearance of the real thing, from the spectator's perspective. Everything could be concealed. You don't have to use light. You can make an RF system. It is a bigger challenge than laser tag but one that can be solved in 2024 by a tech nerd or two. The difficult part would be the coding. There is no need to modify any guns or equipment because we have the technology to make cheap, small sensor devices of myriad types. You could find places on weapons to put them without modifying the weapon or, worst case scenario you have some small part you change out with the sensor in it but maintains the outward appearance. Such a system would also transform reenactments from pantomime to sport, which would really give the whole institution a shot in the arm (no pun intended). Currently, it is like watching a scene in a war movie, with worse special effects. Make it an actual sport where the winner isn't predetermined and it would go mainstream. You could still reenact specific battles to teach the history. This would be something in addition to that which would draw far bigger crowds. Make the event 30% living history lesson and 70% sport. Reenact part of a historical battle for your opener and then you have rounds of competition after.

[@lynxbelow6922]

I'll never forget the story I read where they were doing Napoleonic line battles. It was an honesty system where it was kinda up to the guys when they wanted to bite it. Apparently a line of like 10 dudes all decided to go gently into the night, and were all dropped by a single shot from a single musketman 😂

[@-ZM_Gaming-]

That rifleman did some crazy collateral hits there

[@ThePsh07]

2:45 this line got me. 😂 “Eh, my feet are tired.” _(Acts out getting shot and slowly lies down)_

[@danieljosiahcotton]

As a 20 year American Civil War Reenactor, I appreciated the way you articulated why we don't use airsoft, paintball or lasers. Very well said sir. I have gotten that question many times but never answered as well as you did here.

[@huntclanhunt9697]

That being said, unrelated to reenactment, I hope airsoft muskets become a thing soon.

​@@huntclanhunt9697I've always wondered if someone's ever gonns invent any way of making hits easier to register, there's gotta be one right?

[@Glassofmilkwithcookies]

Me doing the math to see how old you were when you created your channel: 🤔🧐

[@danieljosiahcotton]

@@Glassofmilkwithcookies 35. Started reenacting when I was 15.

[@Drake_Aedus]

I don't really do it anymore. But is used to reenact colonial era battles from Australia. The best way I figured out how to tell when i was shot, was counting. So I\one time, I counted the number of total shots, our side and theirs. Once the number in my head hit 250, i waited for someone to be aiming at me, or near me. Hear the shot, and take a fall. The best time was i hit 250 in my head, then saw the canned we called "Big Bertha" aimed at me, just seconds before the deafening boom of her shot. I loosened my joints for the impact, and flung myself backwards around a meter? I can't quite remember. Anyway. I landed next to the medics, who having heard the boom, and saw me flying through the air... Promptly turned away and focused on other people. 10/10 would get shot by a cannon again.

[@attorneyreel1181]

I'm a Civil War reenactor. We only shoot powder charges in our cannons, muskets, and revolvers, but are rarely close enough that anyone could perceive being wounded/killed by a gunshot. More often, before the reenactment battle, our officers designate a certain number of specified soldiers to take "hits" at a specific point of the battle. We are trained to fall FORWARD because you don't know who/what is behind you, and not sideways because you are more likely to be a broader obstacle and more likely to get stepped on by advancing/retreating troops.

[@BobNorton-vr9zk]

As a long time Civil War reenactor I agree. However at large national events (Gettysburg for instance) before the battle, during inspection, an officer may slip a red or black cartridge into a cartridge box. If the soldier pulls a red cartridge he will fire his rifle, then take a wound. If a black cartridge, he will die.

[@Beans244]

As someone who's going to try reenacting next year, your videos have helped me understand some of the nuances behind events, gear, etc. Keep up the great work!

[@lesterwei2299]

The wildest thing you can hear in a war is “GUYS STARG DYING”

[@DCS_World_Japan]

The tactical side is pretty similar to airsoft in certain situations. In many situations you know when you're hit, but in others you're not due to adrenaline or simply the BB losing velocity by the time it gets to you. "If in doubt, take the hit." Two huge drawbacks with WW2 airsoft is that the selection of weapons is extremely limited, and their effective range is also quite limited.

[@Adelina-293]

If it's too hot or cold or you just don't feel like dragging around the BAR you just fall down. It's that simple.

[@kennagel8088]

Or if you partied too hard the night before.

[@ghostwarrior0329]

0:32 You had me for a second with that white line around the next video pop up

[@braphog63]

The wound cards sound pretty neat honestly, sounds great to add some uncertainty and like a little script for an opportunity to a little acting right there in the moment.

[@TheTrueDoomSlayer]

4:53 a good reason to you also probably fell down during that time it's because the two of the people that were in front of you also got down so it would only make sense that you probably wouldn't make it either.

[@Parrotrooper]

Great video! I get asked this question waaayyy too many times now and frankly just can’t be bothered to answer properly any more. From now on I’ll just refer people to this video.

[@RakkSoild]

I was in the army and faking battles is something we do all the time for training. The miles system you mentioned uses the crack of the blank to activate a laser, Each soldier where's a WW2 style chest rig with tiny little sensors. I will say with todays tech it could prob be made to be invisible and cheap at least for personal battles. More importantly for casualties What the army does if makes alot of casualties cards and hand them out. You don't look at them until you get hit. Then you open it and hit will say arm blown off or sucking chest wound. The army needs it detailed for training but yours could be dead or wounded, maybe even lightly wounded. Also that way the organizers can influence which side is winning by handing out more kia cards.

[@RakkSoild]

lol I paused to type all that 1 Sec before you brought it up

[@SusCalvin]

The Delta Green LARP rules actually used a simple version of combat cards. Hits were described as locations and hp lost with some effect like unconcious or limping if needed. In their version, a sort of skill system combined with chance influences hits. It sounds a little backwards, but a Delta Green character with firearms training does not get better at hitting people. Their sound cards have a smaller chance to produce casualties.

[@RakkSoild]

@@SusCalvin yea for us the CAS cards were more for training the medics and us having normal medi training.

[@SusCalvin]

@RakkSoild The cards are used in general emergency response training here.

[@SusCalvin]

@@RakkSoild One of my mates who was hired as a simulated casualty during an exercise had one to present to the EMT trainees. They had read it and was even instructed in how to act out their injury, and presented the card to the trainees as they checked them.

[@Jbdunham]

I was at a public event in Waxahachie, Texas a few years back. My unit charged an MG42 nest over a bridge. No one briefed us on taking hits, but I knew I was going to have to get hit as I was in front

[@theboi5411]

What an informal 30 second video! Thanks, man!

[@CR7Prod7]

The screams😂

[@Dennis-131]

He screams bc if u get a bullet in your body it’s like it’s burning or sm and it does very painful and he tries to recreate that

[@edithmays2296]

Watching this video has made me decide that I wanna get into historical reenactment

[@johnbarnett7092]

Do it, We have all historic wars and even groups ...example Best Years of our Lives, which is the Post WW 2 era 1945 1950 time frame.

[@BSAP1896]

This is the number one question people ask when they learn you do reenacting.

[@FrankDad]

19:29, in airsoft, we say “Real World” or “Blind man”, but “Real World” more often than not instead of “Corpsman” it is better than “Emergancy” imo.

[@danieljones2183]

You were very thorough and cleared up a lot. Thank you

[@DoggoDoesStuff]

I love your videos!!

[@blackwillow7342]

14:22 could also make the point that sometimes in wars a small squad would face insurmountable odds and beat them unrealistic but a crowd might like to see that kinda story be told

[@303Gunsmoke]

In New Zealand, 3 short blasts on a whistle (carried at least by all officers/ NCOs) stops that battle, (public and tactical) either at the end or earlier if there is an actually an emergency. No one is allowed to fire after a 3 whistle blast. Any other whistle use must only be 1 long blast eg 'going over the top' in WW1.

[@rockapehistory]

I actually have only ever done Airsoft events as a People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN, NVA is cringe and wrong!), and it's honestly such a double-edged sword. It is fantastic and *better* to be able to actually take the hit physically, but the lack of actual battle sounds is such a drain on immersion. Something that affects almost every reenactment set before the 1960s that essentially kills the prospect of using Airsoft is the need for eye protection when using projectiles. Luckily for Vietnam, you can get plenty of "vintage style" safety glasses from companies like Duluth Trading Company. And if you're doing anything from the late 90s on, you can more often than not rely on whatever issued goggles you're using to be rated for higher impacts than airsoft BBs can provide. There is no commercially available repro or even historical analog for anything before Vietnam. Nobody wore impact-rated goggles during the American Civil War, for example. Even for Airsoft Tacticals for Vietnam, it looks pretty funny to see an entire battlefield filled with a bunch of 4-eyes lol.

[@yosarianilivestech4018]

Have you checked out op santa fe hosted by mars before? Feel like you would really enjoy it

[@kakuwave]

Airsoft Peak is GBB only battles with blank grenades, I was lucky enough to do this twice in my local cqb field

[@JohnnyReb-y7v]

As a civil war reenactor I just die when I run out of rounds 😂

[@squidward1975]

Having a reliable hit system might actually ruin the reenactment. For example if the side that's supposed to lose gets a bunch of legitimate and obvious hits it would be difficult to justify the intended result

[@bruisedvi0let]

i love listening to him talk about whatever. he's so interesting

[@QuilloManar]

18:13 - One thing I think should be added to this is to use the ATC/Military method of actually declaring an emergency, to yell the word three times in a row. "Corpsman corpsman corpsman!" Makes more sense in my opionion. "Mayday mayday mayday" is even better of course.

[@Star_Wars_Nerd_6J]

If I were reanacting I would just spend the whole time flopping around and pretending to die

[@Chevsilverado]

Even in airsoft it can be pretty ambiguous to know if you got hit. If you’re wearing a shirt, jacket, and plate carrier you really cannot feel an airsoft round hit you. You can only hear it, and it’s usually not loud enough in intense situations. If you’re running, people are yelling, and you’re in the zone it’s extremely easy to not notice if you get hit, so you have to rely on intuition. If someone is obviously spraying you down in the open but you don’t feel a hit you should just call it. The difference being that the airsoft guns are usually pretty quiet if they’re electric so you may not even hear them shooting at you.

[@onequisse4935]

What we do with my group (for public reenactment) is just plan ahead who's gonna die, like "we need someone to die other there, someone there..." and then pick a few volunteers, or randomly decide who's gonna do it.

[@jindrichburian3946]

"Im just a history nerd." Love it

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

I do wonder if there have ever been any reenactments where the enemy won despite not historically. Probably a blast. Considering the possibility that the fight could have occurred in a fairly similar way.

[@LendriMujina]

I've wondered the same thing. I can definitely imagine there's at least some instances where not everybody's on the same page and things snowball until it stops making logical sense for the historical result to occur.

[@kamikazemelon787]

this was exactly my question after your last tactical video - it’s basically what I thought! thanks for the answer. Seems like hey, if you got yourself in a bad area when the shots go off, maybe take a lil breather ;) seems like a buncha chill guys having a lot of fun in the woods

[@tommy2064]

I love that abrupt ending in the beginning of the video 😂😂😂

[@2ShotProductions]

Thanks for making this incredibly informative video!! I watched your D-Day reenactment video before this and it got me interested in looking into local events!

[@codyhudson4681]

I’m a Revolutionary War re-enactor, and this was totally new to me. Soldiers in the line battles that I witness (I’m a teamster, so I’m not usually in the thick of things) don’t typically “die”. Overall this was a great video and it was a new thing for me.

[@GrubGrubGrubGrub]

8:47 the pov without sound look like stepping on a mine and watching a leg fly through the air

[@Knedlik48]

I know how it’s sometimes hard, because I am reenactor from Europe. So thanks for video

[@HandlesAreDumb002]

hey man love your stuff!

[@SusCalvin]

A LARP system used in some games just gives each side as many casualties as there are weapons. Side A pulls guns on side B in a room. If side A has more guns they control the scene. If side B decides to escalate to shooting, they go down but if they had three guns up they inflict three casualties on A before they do. It is not meant for military or tactical situations.

[@not.danimal]

i cooked, first 23 seconds it was posted

[@Bigjim-fx5gx]

💀

[@thejeremymotley]

congrats?

[@andersnandersen]

A MILES vest (laser vest) costs about 1000 dollars per user.

[@johnvorhees443]

You make good videos It was good meeting you back in October at the ww2 reenactment in Lima

[@QuilloManar]

What's Lima?

[@johnvorhees443]

@ a city in allen County Ohio

[@QuilloManar]

@@johnvorhees443 Lima balls

[@marckoolwijk2913]

You would be an excellent spokes person for any commercial company. I am not into any re-enactments but i watched this all the way through.

[@MrBulbasaurlover]

I guess my next question is what if too many people are "shot" at once? Like say in the D-Day reenactment, what if a third of the US force keels over at once? Are medics/refs able to "revive"?

[@Historyseal]

Thank you for the info

[@AndrewDailey-qm8dn]

I literally want to come to one of these reenactments just to be a part of a group of guys running and then just the fall and start screaming like I got shot. I don’t care if I’m in it for five minutes that is the reality of war men trained for literal years to literally see battle, and that be the last thing they see

[@harrisonseeley7712]

I had the thought that if two US platoons were in a tactical game you could pretend that you were at the Lousiana Manuevers or other stateside training to make a referee make more since

[@xDead2Ux]

Thanks for providing answers to questions I never asked.

[@Dysfunctional_Vet33]

This looks fun as hell

[@whattabirb637]

Another big disadvantage of paintball and airsoft that wasn’t brought up is the amount of damage that would cause to garments. Some of that stuff is genuine world war 2 era gear that would be ruined by paintballs.

[@travislarue8738]

16:33 Blud said on purpose

[@just_a_hampa]

An officer telling one to get hit is one of the ironic things ever.

[@PrestonFuqua-f4r]

This video came out at the perfect time because a was questioning how you die in a reenactment

[@Dekarria]

Napolionic reenactor here from germany, i diden't knew that you guys have an acutally code word for when someones is acutally hurt usally when something does go wrong in our era we carry them to the actally medics or they walk themself to the medic like i did at the battle of waterloo. Was feeling dizzy and such so i walked to the medic tend (it were really hot that day and even tho i drank lots i still were sick).

[@darrellitobeard4440]

First video I've watched of this man that isn't a short.

[@urmemeg0d]

usually when the 'enemy' is far il say they miss the first shot

[@tenuunariunjargal7646]

I act like that guy that lost his arm from the start of "Saving Private Ryan", completely confused but obvious that i've been shot

[@janendrych6863]

It's called "shellshock"

[@HURRIC4NEyt]

thanks a lot, I've been wondering this for so long

[@gamingborger]

tacticals just sound like good practice for the actual show

[@ginomctony6773]

the first reenactment i ever saw was a civil war one on a small scale, i can understand the ideas of airsoft and paintball but for many reasons they wouldnt work and you dont have the same sounds, one of the best things about reenactments are the SOUNDS it sounds like a battlefield and its nuts, if it didnt have that effect then people wouldn't watch. i would also assume that anyone who goes to that extreme to stay in the fight don't get invited back next time. only thing i could see as like an excuse is "well they fought till they were overwhelmed" but you still have to admit when that is.

[@janLipija]

honestly my first thought of “how do you know you’ve been shot” is less about someone not going down when they should’ve been shot and more about too many people going down at once, if you’re at a public event and people in the crowd can clearly see two people go down from a single shot kinda thing? i also wonder how feasible a system where theres an earpiece or similar (maybe smth haptic that can go under clothes if the visual of the earpiece might cause issues) tells individuals when to fire and when to die to make sure everything lines up in a scripted battle? i’d guess this might be more effort than it’s worth but idrk

[@EdinRondic]

wow great video. although i cannot be bothered not to ask what model of typewriter that is in the background.

[@TheTomconroy]

19:13 we used to use No Duff prior to any actually real information outside of a training exercise. Calling in an actual casualty in the radio would be "(call sign) no duff no duff no duff message" etc Is all of RAF thing

[@TryPuttingItInRice]

I would've guessed it's scripted hence the name "reenactment".

[@TunableFall662]

Well my immersion is broken. I thought yall were really killing each other out there

[@nipuniperera9918]

This is probably a silly question, but what happens if there is a wildlife-related resurrection (someone falls down, sees a spider/snake, and shoots back up)?

[@MrSnowmanFR]

I'll keep all that in mind since I want to get into reenactment

[@-szterben-]

What is the name of the movie from that 1 second clip where an armless knight kicks the other

[@PBI45]

Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

[@jamessharpe406]

I'm retired Army and have used MILES. It sucks. I haven't met a soldier that actually likes it. Most units (outside of basic training) just use paintball guns for CQC training.

[@Kevin-gg2bl]

I'd love to reenact. And I think I could do public shows well. In stage acting, I was pretty good at throwing myself around in believable ways. So I could do a "fall" that would probably make some people think it more real

[@Baker2779]

Oh my God wait, you’re basically historical theater kids

[@Averagetubbie]

My brother went to the Ohio d-day

[@Lin-ij9vk]

an interesting idea I've heard some reenactors do (mostly with colonial/muzzle loading types of reenactments) is that their death is based on how much ammo they have. specifically if their round has a specific mark, that's when they're supposed to die (i.e. you die after you fired 4 shots). I doubt it works for more modern reenactment but it's an interesting idea nonetheless

[@Billy-jo3bt]

You have earned my like for the monthly python black knight reference.

[@Pitchlock8251]

Ahhh Monty Python. A man of culture i see👍👍

[@mavbishh]

I play airsoft and we usually use "real world" as a code word for an actual injury

[@echostar034]

I really wanna get involved in Reenacting but I have NO CLUE where to start and I work way too much

[@AkiUwUx3]

I can just hear a cartoon bonk after someone stood up and then just _flop_

[@BladeLightsteel]

You blinked so little in the start that it scared me

[@EchoNest3721]

Or instead of dying you can fall to the groudn and do a blood curdling scream like you got shot in the leg

[@MrpeeppeepGaming]

This is so cool!!❤ thank you🎉

[@Ramash440]

The title can be answered with another question: How do movie actors know they've been shot? They don't. Because they're acting. It's in the name, same for reenactment. You can have whatever systems you want in place, it's still just acting and not a battle. If you want a battle, you play airsoft, paintball or use simunition (A WW2 battle with wax bullets would go so hard). If I were an organizer I'd just give everyone cards saying "You live" or "You die in X minutes" for the hell of it. That said, if you wanted to gamify a reenactment you'd need to do what real armies used to do for war games before MILES was a thing. You have an umpire calling the shots, if he tells you you're dead, you're dead. But those events were there to train officers, not individual soldiers, so the umpire might just let both sides keep shooting while taking count of who they think should be dead.

[@Ramash440]

I posted this before he mentioned the "wound card" system. I mean, of course the people who actually reenact came up with a bunch of systems before I did right now!

[@fealubryne]

I've only done LARPing and medieval reenactment, so I figured the rules were pretty similar but was curious anyway. Nice video, it's sort cool how familiar it is compared to other unrelated reenactment.

[@ShellShock11C]

I'm super into collecting WW2 kit, and I'm "in" a 2nd SS reenactment group (never done events with um), but I'm not sure I could ever do events. Hate being a public spectacle. I mostly get drunk with friends and wear it by the bon fire lol

[@kilts1100]

then why wear it at all?

[@AssassinAgent]

Live ammo is an (illeagal) option, hits definetly would be called. Tho, the effect is bit permanent. So, I don't think many people would be interested in re-enacting D-day with live ammo...

[@kaynebartholomew2994]

I've been to events with refs. I didn't much like having them, only having one per side kind of meant they had to be everywhere at once. But we did use wound cards. I prefer the cards and honor system of taking hits at private events. But we also had "artillery" (just words over a radio, no simulated firing or anything) and the refs were mostly there for calling that; and they did better when they were concerned only with that, less to worry about and all. If there were more refs, maybe a couple per side but like I said, honor system and wound cards worked the best. We often had an aid station to take wounded and dead back to for respawn. At least on the allied side. Not enough people doing German medical for them unfortunately, I know that would add a lot more immersion for them.

[@matthewweitz1949]

Also Simunitions hurt like hell!

[@RustyMuscle1]

The real question is (for tacticals): why are you putting yourself into a position to be shot?

[@dragonscholar7]

It’s for the effect. The goal isn’t to not die, it’s to reenact what it was like back then to the most accurate form.