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Siemens Charger: Locomotive of the Future

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@normansilver905
@normansilver905 Жыл бұрын
I know an Amtrak engineer. He told me the new Siemen's is a real winner. He is hopeful the entire Amtrak locomotive fleet will be this well designed piece of locomotive power.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen Жыл бұрын
Siemens is not a possesive or even a plural, it's just a German family name: _Ernst Werner Siemens (von Siemens from 1888; English: /ˈsiːm.ənz/ SEEM-ənz;[1] German: [ˈziːməns, -mɛns];[2] 13 December 1816 - 6 December 1892) was a German electrical engineer, inventor and industrialist. Siemens's name has been adopted as the SI unit of electrical conductance, the siemens. He founded the electrical and telecommunications conglomerate Siemens._
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A Жыл бұрын
I like the Chargers, and they even make sense for dual-mode - as NJT and even MBTA prove every day.
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A Жыл бұрын
And what about Metra? There - like the NEC - has both caternaries and diesel.
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A Жыл бұрын
At some point, I am expecting MARC to wind up with ACS-64s of it's own because of the Brunswick and other noncaternary interchanges at DC Union Station and Baltimore Camden Yards.
@inerdt
@inerdt Жыл бұрын
@@KaiHenningsen the correct possessive form is Siemens', at least in German.
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
The Brightline Chargers don’t usually operate at the same time. It’s usually one engine pulling/pushing the consist while the other is there to give HEP. When the consist gets longer (8 cars) they will start using both engines.
@damnimloomin
@damnimloomin Жыл бұрын
I was thinking what a waste 2 engines for barley 80mph
@adamknott7830
@adamknott7830 Жыл бұрын
@@damnimloomin it bothered me that he said higher speed rail service when talking about brightline. As you said its 80 mph for them and thats really slow
@damnimloomin
@damnimloomin Жыл бұрын
@@adamknott7830 they are already testing high speed service to be fair I hope they’re able to resolve the level crossing issues along US 1 so they can go the top speed! But yeah 80 is how fast people go on the highway in Florida lol not that appealing on travel time.
@adamknott7830
@adamknott7830 Жыл бұрын
@@damnimloomin they dont have a high enough class of rail either if im not mistaken. They built themselves into a max speed of 80 mph which i think makes me more made than the actual speed itself
@brandonbloomquist3267
@brandonbloomquist3267 Жыл бұрын
@@adamknott7830Brightline bought the extra power for their latter phases of service. It's a 79 mph limit in the metro Miami area, or Miami to Palm Beach; a speed that's pushing it for how many people and grade crossings are in play. From Palm Beach to Cocoa, the restored dual track of the FEC is being set up for 110 mph, and the new track from Cocoa to Orlando is set for 125 mph. Their PPTs show a 150 mph design speed for the Tampa extension.
@TrainsandAdventuresTV
@TrainsandAdventuresTV Жыл бұрын
I hope Amtrak will give the P42’s a farewell run just like they did with the AEM-7s
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions Жыл бұрын
It would be silly if they didn't.
@rivertownproductions
@rivertownproductions Жыл бұрын
I just hope some get preserved!
@Cal90208
@Cal90208 Жыл бұрын
How are they supposed to do that? AEM’s ran on one like, P42s are everywhere and have already been completely replaced in some parts of the country
@ronal8824
@ronal8824 Жыл бұрын
based on how long the f40ph lasted I doubt that will be anytime soon
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A Жыл бұрын
It will depend on who and where - B@O will get at least one from AMTRAK - because the Smithsonian has no annex.
@zacharylegaspi7594
@zacharylegaspi7594 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the chargers is how the original platform was properly adapted and modified for use in the US resulting in having a lot of the unique features that give American railroads its own character instead of just simply being a European export with a bell slapped onto it
@farmerdave7965
@farmerdave7965 Жыл бұрын
I like the nose on the VIA chargers best. All Chargers should look like that.
@maymayandajjackson7349
@maymayandajjackson7349 2 ай бұрын
The train is cute
@creaturexxii
@creaturexxii Жыл бұрын
Aesthetically, I like the VIA Rail SC-42 over the Amtrak ALC-42 as the VIA Rail one just looks sleeker and better looking IMO. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as most of these Siemens locomotives are good looking.
@gamerfan8445
@gamerfan8445 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you
@jfp3earth357
@jfp3earth357 Жыл бұрын
I thought via rails Chargers were classified as scv-42s
@gamerfan8445
@gamerfan8445 Жыл бұрын
@@jfp3earth357 they are I think
@kennichdendenn
@kennichdendenn Жыл бұрын
Quite frankly, at least from european view, north american rail isnt exactly a story of design hits - most of the equipment looks bulky at best. And thats not just the safety regulations - I feel like its just not an important point. The new brightline trains look way better though!
@gamerfan8445
@gamerfan8445 Жыл бұрын
@@kennichdendenn because it was designed by Europe.
@KaijuForceNeo
@KaijuForceNeo Жыл бұрын
As a former passenger of a super liner pulled by one of these engines, it’s safe to say that the charger locomotive shows a ton of commitment to a great future for Amtrack!
@pauly5418
@pauly5418 Жыл бұрын
In December 2022, the Ontario government ordered 3 Siemens Chargers along with 3 Venture trainsets. This is for their Ontario Northlander service.
@mygins5820
@mygins5820 Жыл бұрын
I definitely would be cool to see a railroad review of Metro North or Long Island rail road, Long Island being the busiest commuter rail in the country
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife Жыл бұрын
I can't remember if he did Metra or not, but in theme with your suggestion I'd hope he does an in depth video on Metra given it's the third busiest commuter rail operator in the country. It'd be even cooler if he did Metra and South Shore Line together given that they (including Amtrak Midwest as well) serve as the primary commuter and extended commuter services for the Chicagoland metropolitan area. I also hope Metra gives up on it's stupid crusade to keep only EMD powered locomotices in it's fleet just because "it's used to working on them." This goes against their multiple claims to wanting to reduce harmful emissions and create a healthier environment for ridership. Given that we are set to replace all of our Nippon sharyo and bombardier Bilevel passenger cars with modern Alstom Coradia Multilevel passenger coaches, it would make a lot of sense to match them with well built, new dedicated passenger locomotives like the Siemens Charger. And yes, I'd miss the F40s, but man are they barely hanging on by a thread even with multiple rebuilds and fantastic maintenance. It's just time. Though I will admit that like most other state funded transit systems, funding is tight and margins are razor thin. So it's understandable. But frustrating.
@maas1208
@maas1208 Жыл бұрын
​@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife The Chargers suck in Chicago's winters and The Freight Companies are being assholes
@stephenmairs8366
@stephenmairs8366 Жыл бұрын
These Siemens locomotives are very pleasing to the eye, handsome and thoughtfully designed. It would good to see these on our Irish networks, both NIR and Irish Rail. We have some incredibly old GM locomotives still in service, they have outlived everyones expections, a great testimony to the company and their designers.
@otherguyfrombloodandbrews7150
@otherguyfrombloodandbrews7150 Жыл бұрын
I test all these locomotive variants at the manufacturing facility definitely the coolest feeling being the one of the first people to start the engine and drive these locomotives with the long lives they will have. It was awesome when 301 came to be the lead engine to take 313 and 314 eventually making their journey with 301,309,313 and 314. Great video I love seeing the appreciation people have for these vehicles!!
@AnalytiKroll
@AnalytiKroll Жыл бұрын
Sadly as a Metra rider we won't see these until every last EMD locomotive is used up by them.
@erikgustafson9319
@erikgustafson9319 Жыл бұрын
They need emus not chargers
@danielchou5895
@danielchou5895 Жыл бұрын
@@erikgustafson9319 they dont need emus
@mbrproductions160
@mbrproductions160 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good thing
@truedarklander
@truedarklander Жыл бұрын
@@danielchou5895 They do. They need something like Stadler KISS or CAF/Alstom Renfe S-450
@danielchou5895
@danielchou5895 Жыл бұрын
@@truedarklander No they don't...
@toadscoper4575
@toadscoper4575 Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is why many mid-distance and commuter railroad operators are purchasing long distance locomotives when it would be far more economical and efficient to operate multiple units on high-frequency shorter routes (intercity DMUs are a norm in many parts of the world). Perhaps Siemens should consider making hybrid multiple unit sets for regional operators based on the ALC design standard.
@truedarklander
@truedarklander Жыл бұрын
I mean, its a whole different beast, considering long DMUs have several smaller engines and are usually DEMUs rather than DMUs. And Siemens only has the Desiro series in that, and its not that good compared to the chargers. Stadler, CAF, Talgo and Alstom are far better choices for DMUs/EMUs/BMUs
@Scottish_Transport_Explorer
@Scottish_Transport_Explorer Жыл бұрын
Ikr, DMU's and EMU's are far better for the task in hand, at least Caltrain understands because they're getting new EMU's
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 Жыл бұрын
Like most things wrong with American infrastructure, it comes down bad regulations. I'm 100% in favor of good regulations that improve safety, but we have a lot of regulations that are there just because that is how we've always done it, with no flexibility granted for new and improved technology.
@mikeblatzheim2797
@mikeblatzheim2797 Жыл бұрын
@@truedarklander Agreed on the DMU front, but honestly, Siemens builds the best EMUs out there (though Stadler does come very close). Especially noteworthy are the regional Desiro HC, which is an absolute rocketship with a huge capacity and a design top speed of 200kph, as well as the Velaro high speed trains.
@tzarcoal1018
@tzarcoal1018 Жыл бұрын
The issue is reguilations. Trains in the US must be beefy enough to take some damage in a crash. In Europe the thinking is different...focus all regulations to avoid crahes. So most light-weight DMUs / EMUS are impossible to certify for the American market, at least when they run on the same route as freight traffic. There is actually a German DMU operaring somewhere in the US but it is classified as light rail...in Europe it would be a typical train for a regional rail that has low utilistion.
@gb9727
@gb9727 7 ай бұрын
MBTA should order some, even though their motive power trains are 9 years old
@ghosttrain312
@ghosttrain312 Жыл бұрын
A good majority of operators went with the Siemens chargers. The only operator I know that didn't go with Siemens is Metrolink here in Southern California. Metrolink(and only Metrolink) purchased few EMD F125 locomotives leaving them the odd one out.
@tatecarlson
@tatecarlson Жыл бұрын
When I first saw the charger locomotive I was absolutely despised the design, but overtime, this locomotive has proven to be my favorite Tier 4 locomotive
@TheRuralUrbanist
@TheRuralUrbanist Жыл бұрын
I love the charger and this was a great overview of the many orders. Maybe I'm alone with this, but I find the battery/dual-mode versions super frustrating. Diesel + caternary makes sense for anything past NEC, but the battery really doesn't make so much sense especially if it's replacing third rail. I wish we'd just electrify more lines!
@kennyr3751
@kennyr3751 Жыл бұрын
I agree the electric lines are better.
@Mgameing123
@Mgameing123 Жыл бұрын
@@T_Hoog But battery trains weigh alot.
@aoilpe
@aoilpe Жыл бұрын
@@T_Hoog It’s just stupid of CSX and others NOT to electrify! And don’t say “the country is too big” or “They couldn’t run double-stack containers anymore “ because it’s BS. The Trans-Siberian in Russia is electrified (9288km/5771ml) and the Dedicated Freight Corridors in India are electrified corridors for double stack trains. European railways show also that it IS possible to run by green electricity ⚡️ Electric locomotives are able to provide reliable services for more than 50 years, if well maintained, with less inspections needed.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
@@aoilpe Maintenance of OLE in remote areas is a problem, so are tunnel and bridge clearances. Electrification is better for passenger than freight; it's also prohibitively expensive for the length of rail line in the US
@aoilpe
@aoilpe Жыл бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 Electric locomotives are the best for high power in low speed operation ! Quite all diesel locomotives are diesel-electric ! Overhead rail in tunnels take less room than a normal catenary . Electrification is costly at first but save money at the end. Less maintenance for locomotives, possibility to run trains with “green energy”,less dead weight to transport (fuel) ,fewer engines needed for the same weight, recuperation breaks to generate power while breaking, service life easily over 50 years….! Just start somewhere! Switzerland is 99,1 percent electrified since the sixties beginning in the 1910’s. I remind you,some lines were electrified and dismantled since ! Start with the most important routes !
@SunRailMV
@SunRailMV Жыл бұрын
My favorite Siemens Chargers were Brightline, VIA Rail and the Amtrak long-distance trains, I can’t wait to see Brightline along with Amtrak’s ALC-42 chargers that are coming soon in Florida!
@Distress.
@Distress. Жыл бұрын
My favorite is also the bightlines and vias. They look "modern" and fast
@ericschwartz3559
@ericschwartz3559 Ай бұрын
I’m happy that metro north went with the sc42dm for dual-mode a variant of the siemens charger instead of a classic emd locomotive like the f125 that’s in service with metrolink.
@AndrewTheRadarMan
@AndrewTheRadarMan Жыл бұрын
Shame Amtrak didn't order streamlined locomotives like Viarail. I think more people would be inclined to use the trains if they looked more modern. Alot of people see the antiquated Amfleets and freight-based engines and compare them to Europe and Asia's high speed rail.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen Жыл бұрын
The sprinter and charger are direct relations to the Siemens ES64U4. ÖBB called these "Taurus", and the one numbered 1216 050 (and later renumbered 1216 025) has the world speed record for electric locomotives at 357 km/h (222 mph) on 2006-09-02. (If you google it, I'd say the stylistic relation is pretty obvious.)
@AndrewTheRadarMan
@AndrewTheRadarMan Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I could see where the design is similar. Although the Taurus has a very interesting sound when accelerating. The ACS 64 doesn't sound like a saxophone playing a scale
@Neuzahnstein
@Neuzahnstein Жыл бұрын
@@KaiHenningsen additionally the via rail concept is based on the öbb service railjet.
@mikeblatzheim2797
@mikeblatzheim2797 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewTheRadarMan The sound is due to how the AC power gets generated and delivered to the motors, and Siemens engines from the early 2000s in particular developed this sound. The technology has become simpler and more efficient since, but at the cost of the wonderful sound. This even includes the Taurus; whilst the first two series play you some musical notes when accelerating, the third series, sharing the same bodyshell, doesn't.
@D2Kprime
@D2Kprime Жыл бұрын
At first, I wasn't feeling the SC. The more I see it in action, more I have started to like it. I live in Milwaukee and yesterday when I was coming out of the grocery store, the Empire Builder just so happened to come whizzing-by. It was a perfect-shot. I was able to see almost all of the train at the same time. It had an ALC-42 as the lead locomotive, but it also had two GE-P42DC locomotives behind it. It only had 10 maybe 15 cars at the most so I was kind-of confused as to why it needed all those locos. After looking it up I guess it's normal for the Empire Builder to have that many.
@itmkoeln
@itmkoeln Жыл бұрын
A little minor correction they are more eurosprinter. Yes Siemens Mobility has built Chargers on Vectron. But afterall Vectron/and the single Current variant Smartron started in 2010. The Vectron itself was based on both the EuroSprinter (electric) and EuroRunner (diesel)
@nathantzhang
@nathantzhang Жыл бұрын
Knew this was coming after the scary lack of chargers in the last episode
@michaeltb1358
@michaeltb1358 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Europea designed locos are taking over in USA passenger service. In the UK US designed and built locos have taken over the cargo market.
@tzarcoal1018
@tzarcoal1018 Жыл бұрын
really? That means you guys have mostly Diesel operations? It would make sense most since European Loco makers have deprioritized Diesel a bit, in the US Diesel is still undisputed King in the freight market.
@michaeltb1358
@michaeltb1358 Жыл бұрын
@@tzarcoal1018 Many UK passenger lines are electrified, but not so many of the lines that carry freight, especially branches, so diesel is used more for freight.
@CrackedAmoeba24
@CrackedAmoeba24 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a Siemens Charger B Unit for the long distance trains!
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
3:30 Good lord! The curve of that track!!!
@csernusgergely1612
@csernusgergely1612 Жыл бұрын
@FPK Chicago, 333 North Canal St.
@Jeragon186
@Jeragon186 Жыл бұрын
I like the look of the ALCs over the SCs, but the ditch lights aren’t synced at all (unless it’s the typical camera shutter speed not matching the LEDs). Y’all can see it in videos of the ALCs.
@catdemon922
@catdemon922 11 ай бұрын
Its so nice to see that north america is finally getting modern european trains
@denzzlinga
@denzzlinga Жыл бұрын
I wonder, with all the experience with the Cahrgers in the nord american market, will Siemens maybe one day build a freight engine too? And try to attack EMD and GE in their main market.
@petrfedor1851
@petrfedor1851 Жыл бұрын
I don´t how how different conditions for passanger and freight trains are in America but here in Europe they serve both pretty well. Taurus locos (Vectron predecesors) were primary developed for freight train.
@herzschlagerhoht5637
@herzschlagerhoht5637 Жыл бұрын
@@petrfedor1851 In the US freight trains are much longer and heavier than in Europe! Siemens has to create completely new engines. They can't use their existing European models for that.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 11 ай бұрын
North American freight locos are absolute monsters compared to anything out of Europe due to the extreme length of trains in the US and Canada. Heavy haul locos in the US run 6000hp without the need to divert power for HEP, and they run 3-6 per consist depending on weight and dynamic braking requirements. and remember that's 6000hp with 70mph freight gearing so they can pull some absolutely massive weight with only the 8500hp gas turbine locos of the late 50s and 60s and the Challenger and Big Boy steam locomotives being able to pull more weight.
@einstein3100
@einstein3100 5 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 Europe is mostly electrified (except smaller regional lines) that is why there are no powerful diesel trains. But electric Locomotives are most of the times stronger then diesel ones: for Example the standard Siemens Vectron has 8600hp
@fluffnose3386
@fluffnose3386 Жыл бұрын
The ALC 42 Es sound really really cool.
@paulwarner5395
@paulwarner5395 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound of the big GEs not a truck sounding motor of the Chargers.
@fluffnose3386
@fluffnose3386 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwarner5395 I’ve not actually seen one in person. But I feel the same way. Trains shouldn’t sound like trucks. This is why I hate British trains so much lol
@tropicalsimonthirty2283
@tropicalsimonthirty2283 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwarner5395 I thought the train systems and their futures mattered- Welp roll out the sound based trains siemens!
@maas1208
@maas1208 Жыл бұрын
​@@paulwarner5395I like the Screaming of the F40s better
@tholei11
@tholei11 Жыл бұрын
As of 2022 , approximately 1728 European Vectron locomotives built , all types and 774 options .
@AussieGunzel
@AussieGunzel Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the EMD F125 (the locomotive meant to rival the charger)
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
Please no, far better to do one on the MPXpress series, the actual rivals to both the Genesis series and the Chargers
@Century636
@Century636 Жыл бұрын
A couple corrections: Caltrans is operating 24 SC44s and Washington State operates 8.
@johntherailfan3754
@johntherailfan3754 Жыл бұрын
A truly crazy thought would be a freight charger, made by Siemens to compete with EMD and GE Tier 4 offerings.
@jfp3earth357
@jfp3earth357 Жыл бұрын
I loved the fact that CT rail will actually get chargers as well but what will they be classified as will they actually retired the p-40s and the gp40s and replace them because I'm starting to think that the p-40s and gp40s are just temporary unless if CT rail is planning to use all three locomotives which I doubt because the other two don't comply to tier 4 emission standards. Do you know if CT rail will purchase Venture coaches and cab cars as well or will they keep the mbbs that were given by MBTA and Mafersas from Virginia Railway Express
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
I heard they were debating whether to get chargers or electrify their small network and get more EMUs
@andrealauer4493
@andrealauer4493 Жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of taking the empire builder with ALC 42 #300, the very first one delivered, about a month ago. It was beautiful in person and definitely noticably quieter than the adjoining Genesis
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Жыл бұрын
It's also more fuel efficient than the Genesis
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 11 ай бұрын
If I recall the Genesis locos are still 2 stroke diesels.
@justinbourget1560
@justinbourget1560 Жыл бұрын
Exo here at Montréal in Canada but also the charger from Siemens 🙂
@therailfanman2078
@therailfanman2078 Жыл бұрын
I actually like the look of the chargers. I like the ACS-64 and charger engines.
@frederickmoller
@frederickmoller Жыл бұрын
I just read that the government of Ontario will be aquiring 4 sets Push/Pull locomotives with 2 coaches in each set for it's Ontario Northlander( my go to railway) for it's Timmins to Toronto run. The previous Lieberal government cancelled this vital train service in 2012, our current Conservative government is reinstating it! YAY
@sweiland75
@sweiland75 Жыл бұрын
We will see. I am skeptical.
@devvydoesstuff
@devvydoesstuff Жыл бұрын
I heard the chargers failed when Amtrak was testing them in cold weather due to their large vents, it could be possible for the via chargers to suffer from this same problem
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Жыл бұрын
They should make smaller vents
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the Brightline trains have much larger vents and larger radiators to deal with the Florida heat.
@sgtdebones
@sgtdebones Жыл бұрын
Even though MPI MPXpress are my favorite passenger locomotives, Chargers are my close 2nd
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Жыл бұрын
These are my favorite diesel locomotives, but the ALC42s? Definitely my favorite Amtrak locomotive of all time
@jbreezy101
@jbreezy101 3 ай бұрын
amtrak needs the dual powers too for ALB-NYC service. looking most forward to the one that uses panto/ battery with diesel for service to Roanoke, Springfield, and Newport News. Why the heck didnt brightline go panto and why did they decide to go with crossings on new track?
@MrMarshmallow26
@MrMarshmallow26 2 ай бұрын
Because Brightline doesn't own the track except for the segment between Orlando and just north of Cocoa.
@lamborginiandbuses
@lamborginiandbuses Жыл бұрын
Would love NJT to get some SC44 or SC42 Chargers
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions Жыл бұрын
I have mixed thoughts on these locomotives. Whilst I don't mind the ALC-42, I think the SC-44 and SCB-40 are very ugly (as it stands now, I'm indifferent to the Via Rail variant) and I also think the SC-44 is over-rated.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
I think the SCB-40 isn't too bad and the Via Rail one is decent, but I don't really like the ALC-42 or especially the SC-44
@R262SubwayTrain
@R262SubwayTrain Жыл бұрын
Siemens Charger are the Best And IDGAFS If you don't agree
@gdrriley420
@gdrriley420 Жыл бұрын
24 not 22 for California, the last 2 were leased. split 10 northern California 14 southern California.
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 11 ай бұрын
I rode the Via variant to and from Ottawa last month. Faster, smoother and quieter than the old stock.
@supericeman1
@supericeman1 Жыл бұрын
I saw a charger on the empire builder on my way back from seattle to fargo, my train had the p42s and the train going to seattle had the alc-42 chargers
@TheDURWAS
@TheDURWAS Жыл бұрын
Hey pls review India's Semi fast train 'Vande Bharat' Thanks.
@Neuzahnstein
@Neuzahnstein Жыл бұрын
Charger platform could be as well interesting for freight railways, in special the dual mods ones for some areas.
@tzarcoal1018
@tzarcoal1018 Жыл бұрын
only in the nieche market sadly. Electrified Freigth is not really a thing in the US, so dual mode makes little sense. Siemens does not offer a Diesel option that is powerful enough for freight traffic.
@sweetwater88
@sweetwater88 Жыл бұрын
North Carolina DOT may make an order on the diesel only models soon for the Piedmont service.
@herzschlagerhoht5637
@herzschlagerhoht5637 Жыл бұрын
As always, super interesting video from you! ;)
@Rovan84127
@Rovan84127 9 күн бұрын
I’m sorry, were those MARC bilevels all the way out in Colorado at 2:56???
@fredschmitt456
@fredschmitt456 Жыл бұрын
It's about time American freight trains make the switch to Siemens Chargers, if only for the cool name!
@chariseaustin-lucy2039
@chariseaustin-lucy2039 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video. The Siemens Charger is one of my favorite locomotives, but mostly the SC44 is my favorite.
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Жыл бұрын
My favorite is the ALC42
@andrewtabatabai9590
@andrewtabatabai9590 Жыл бұрын
Next Siemens venture
@JermaniBurroughs
@JermaniBurroughs 7 ай бұрын
Tbh the SC-44 is the Diesel Verison of the Vectron Electrics, The SCV-44 & SCB-44 Chargers are us the Diesel verison of Taurus. & the ALC-42 & Arios are like the Diesel Version of the ACS-64
@jantube358
@jantube358 Жыл бұрын
Next: Passenger Wagons of the Future
@dennisthebrony2022
@dennisthebrony2022 9 ай бұрын
I think those EXO locomotives would be called the SC44-R, the "R" standing for Removable Nose
@mygins5820
@mygins5820 Жыл бұрын
Metro-North will definitely need to replace their pl42 AC'S that they're getting rid of for the port Jervis route
@danielchou5895
@danielchou5895 Жыл бұрын
NJT owns the PL42s.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
I thought the NJT PL42 fleet was getting replaced by ALP-45As
@_SP64_
@_SP64_ Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewreynolds4949 they are but not all of them
@R262SubwayTrain
@R262SubwayTrain Жыл бұрын
Bro PL42AC Are Good Locomotive
@f.b.1614
@f.b.1614 Жыл бұрын
Nice locomotives, does anyone know where the Chargers are built?
@RestrictedProceed
@RestrictedProceed Жыл бұрын
Sacramento, CA
@kavik2825
@kavik2825 11 ай бұрын
Only 7 operate on the Cascades. Initial order was only for 8, and one was totaled on madden voyage, flew off the tracks from a bridge. WSDOT has ordered 2 more since.
@MrMarshmallow26
@MrMarshmallow26 2 ай бұрын
We won't see the two new Chargers until the Airo sets though, at least close to that order.
@davidgertz1317
@davidgertz1317 Жыл бұрын
The Chargers have little front-end protection for the operating crew. This cab design is not an issue on the NE corridor because there are no grade crossings as there are in cross country service. I would not want to be in a cab of a Charger in an unavoidable collision with a semi-truck stuck on a crossing!
@Century636
@Century636 Жыл бұрын
They have done very well against tractor-trailers, heavy farm equipment, and high speed airborne derailment.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick Жыл бұрын
Idiots in Florida keep ignoring signals and driving across brightline tracks, so there have been many real world tests of the Siemens charger performance in a vehicle collision, and for the most part they come out of it fine.
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse Жыл бұрын
I wonder how that's working out for Briteline, where they seem to have multiple track incursions per week. One report I read said it was the preferred method of suicide in FL, surpassing opiate drugs. I wonder how long until Briteline is banned! 😉😅😅😅💀💀💀
@mikeblatzheim2797
@mikeblatzheim2797 Жыл бұрын
They follow the European design philosophy of incorporating a crash structure that deforms in an impact as well as an extremely strong survival cell to protect the driver/engineer. Trust me, they'll do just fine.
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A Жыл бұрын
How much grief does The Borgata get from guests that sleep on the windmill side? (I ask because the REVEL also had one - when it was the Hilton Atlantic City, then the Atlantic Club - and I stayed there myself - on the windmill side - on purpose - slept like a brick - during a blizzard.)
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see exo's charger fleet.
@gloria6229
@gloria6229 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, some P32ACDMs will be kept on Metro-North as protect power in case a Charger on MTA breaks down.
@bhoneydew
@bhoneydew Жыл бұрын
Great video
@TheTrainMan570
@TheTrainMan570 Жыл бұрын
Talk about a rolling brick? They can’t come up with something more aerodynamic ??
@YaoboyProd2K15
@YaoboyProd2K15 Жыл бұрын
The new face of North American Passenger railroading.
@RdgRails2102
@RdgRails2102 Жыл бұрын
Whenever the Chargers start appearing more often, my question is what type of Amtrak units will operate the Pennsylvanian from Philly to Pittsburgh, that type of Amtrak train isn't long distance.... Wonder if they'll use the Dash8s for the Pennsylvanian
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
Leftover P42DCs probably, if not more SC44s and ALC42s
@haweater1555
@haweater1555 Жыл бұрын
11:37 EXO is the commuter rail agency of Montreal.
@JeffFrmJoisey
@JeffFrmJoisey Жыл бұрын
KZbin is destroying your video by putting in ads EVERY 2 MINUTES!!!!!
@davidfrischknecht8261
@davidfrischknecht8261 Жыл бұрын
uBlock Origin is your friend.
@richarda996
@richarda996 Жыл бұрын
You have the option for subscription, other wise 😂😂😂
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse Жыл бұрын
All videos
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! Well Done!👍
@eddylagrand7762
@eddylagrand7762 Жыл бұрын
May be there will be an opportunity Siemens’ Mireo Plus H hydrogen train soon to enter service in Scotland as with new IRA subsidies may lead to lower operating cost & emphasis on green energy in the future
@AlexanderPerez-hv4nu
@AlexanderPerez-hv4nu Жыл бұрын
When Metro-North Railroad gets their Siemens Charger locomotives and retire their P32AC-DMs, the train sets will no longer be called “Metro-North Genesis”😢. I wonder what will they be called with the new locomotives in the set?
@Romario922
@Romario922 Жыл бұрын
Considering the future of the ACS64 is up in the air do you think you’ll maybe do a video on potential places they could end up whether that’s to Septa, MBTA, MARC NJT
@truedarklander
@truedarklander Жыл бұрын
why is their future up in the air?
@BIoknight000
@BIoknight000 Жыл бұрын
@@truedarklander The new ALC-42E Charger-Venture trainsets are meant to replace the ACS-64.
@justahillbilly7777
@justahillbilly7777 Жыл бұрын
@@BIoknight000 They’re meant to replace MOST of the ACS-64’s which I still find to be surreal given the ACS’ are still relatively new. I think there’ll be a small fleet of ACS’ kept around to handle the long distance traffic that the electrified lines see, as well as work trains and other miscellaneous tasks.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
@@justahillbilly7777 I predict there will be a relatively large fleet left, and only a few of the bi-mode units. It's a stupid idea to get rid of so many new units given the very limited market for electric locos in North America
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын
Something tells me Siemens will buy them back and use them for parts for other Charger units (I know the mode of propulsion is different, but many other parts are in common.)
@trainglen22
@trainglen22 10 ай бұрын
The Via rail ones are definitely nice
@rontroy3843
@rontroy3843 Жыл бұрын
1. Does anyone know if LIRR still plans to buy these DM's? 2. Does anyone now the dimensions. Specifically, will the be low enough, etc. to fit into LIRR's 63rd Street tunnel along with the other tunnel segments leading to Grand Central LIRR?
@TheWarrior1256
@TheWarrior1256 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@thesquirrelthatwentupurass7920
@thesquirrelthatwentupurass7920 Жыл бұрын
I don't get the disgust sentiments toward the SC-44. It is personally my favorite of the platform. Oof, Coaster's chargers? Slap. Imagine if we got all blue chargers. Like in a Trimet blue. Fuck.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
It's the nose that looks ugly to most people
@ReadingAreaRailfan
@ReadingAreaRailfan Жыл бұрын
MTA needs to keep the NH unit, even if they replace the GE fleet with Siemens
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 Жыл бұрын
That's what museums are for
@NorthAtlanticRails
@NorthAtlanticRails Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@powgames
@powgames Жыл бұрын
So the alc42-e are going to be the same locomotives as the dual mode ones which the mta ordered, just with a different passenger car as power source attached to it?
@danielchou5895
@danielchou5895 Жыл бұрын
no
@nicolasblume1046
@nicolasblume1046 Жыл бұрын
4:44 what station is that render of?
@casbrowne9055
@casbrowne9055 Жыл бұрын
I believe Miami Central
@sled57
@sled57 Жыл бұрын
These haven't taken over squat as there are well over 200 GE and EMD units still in service compared to a couple dozen Chargers just beginning service in the last couple years. All new locomotives have teething problems to work out, and Siemens is no different.
@kainhall
@kainhall Жыл бұрын
i know the Empire Builder is running these new locos..... . sometimes 2 locos at the front.... sometimes 1 changer infront of a P42
@letsplaybaseball3072
@letsplaybaseball3072 6 ай бұрын
11:57 will this be a 6 locomotives cars to come to Metro North
@BorisLu
@BorisLu Жыл бұрын
Great video! Good day! Greetings from Ukraine!
@alimehdi3684
@alimehdi3684 Жыл бұрын
My experience with the Chargers on the Illinois routes is that they are noticeably quieter, the acceleration is brisk and smooth and you can barely smell any exhaust fumes. I am looking forward to seeing the chargers on our Chicago Metra routes.
@maas1208
@maas1208 Жыл бұрын
Relience on EMD prime movers.
@peterforan5982
@peterforan5982 Жыл бұрын
Well done Florida ❗️
@trainsmachineryldegmtrains3509
@trainsmachineryldegmtrains3509 Жыл бұрын
Super video, good work! Thumbs Up & Subscribe Greetings from Romania Andrew
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 Жыл бұрын
At first I don't really like these engines yet I like the European Euro-sprinter, Herkules Diesel, TRAXX and the Taurus
@gloria6229
@gloria6229 Жыл бұрын
Maybe all P32ACDMs will be converted into Non-Powered Control Units.
@adamknott7830
@adamknott7830 Жыл бұрын
I hope these companies dont invest in battery tech and realize that overhead wires are just a better route to take
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse Жыл бұрын
Modern lithium batteries are cancer. Wires are the only logical way to go.
@jeroen2535
@jeroen2535 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't Siemens just introduce the proven Vectron in the USA adapted to USA standard. And why the Charger doesn't cabins on both ends?
@Genius_at_Work
@Genius_at_Work Жыл бұрын
IIRC, the Charger pretty much is a Vectron. They just can't use the same Body because Crash Safety Standards are much stricter in America than in Europe. The Charger also has a Cummins Engine instead of a MTU, but I'm not sure if MTU has an Engine Factory in America; that might explain the different Engine Choice.
@tankman_tv9332
@tankman_tv9332 5 ай бұрын
​@Genius_at_Work I think MTU does, because ferries that run in the bay area use MTU engines, and the BL36PH trains in Florida use their engines as well. Or maybe I might be wrong.
@ronparrish6666
@ronparrish6666 10 ай бұрын
Why does the Via ones look better than the Amtrak ones is it the paint job or am i missing something
@Eaglescout217
@Eaglescout217 3 ай бұрын
nose cone design along with the snow blade on the front does make a bit more stylish
@MrPedroramos8911
@MrPedroramos8911 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see them in Metro North
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Brightline is not a "higher speed rail" operator. The speed limit on Brightline's entire current line is 79mph, and their trains never even go above 70mph. After the new extension is build they will have a large section of 110mph in addition to their current 79mph trackage and a tiny, 20 mile section of 125mph trackage. So after the upgrade you could say that Brightline will become a "higher speed rail" operator. But they aren't one currently. Right now, Brightline is 100% a conventional speed operator.
@Neuzahnstein
@Neuzahnstein Жыл бұрын
And it is working, example for more corridors?
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@Neuzahnstein Anything works with enough taxpayer subsidies. Brightline is very clever about extracting up to 90% of government funding and then claiming that they're "privately funded". As soon as the taxpayers realize how much they're subsidizing Brightline, the tap will close. Plus, hasn't Amtrak already done "highER speed rail" on the Wolverine, Lincoln service, and a few other corridors. How come Brightline gets the credit for copying something that Amtrak has been doing for over a decade?
@ACA_cyclone
@ACA_cyclone 7 ай бұрын
0:00 is that amtrak Coach new?
@MrMarshmallow26
@MrMarshmallow26 2 ай бұрын
New? Hah, never!
@kainhall
@kainhall Жыл бұрын
if AMTRAK could get some new cars..... something with WIFI, more 110 volt outlets, bigger TVs, ETC i think it would REALLY help them . right now.... it feels like a trip to 1994 on the Empire Builder...... . like, you cant even charge your phone unless you go to the lounge car and their isnt THAT many outlets in their either! . . free satellite wifi..... a 110 outlet next to every seat.....something newer than a 240P CRT in the lounge car ya know.... bringing them from the late 80s to modern day (and improving safety... as seen with SEVERAL deaths in recent years) . again, that would REALLY help sell tickets
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Жыл бұрын
Well, Amtrak is considering new cars for long-distance services and they could have all of this
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