Is The Black Bay 54 The NEW Black Bay 58? | Tudor Black Bay 54 Review by Zach Weiss

[@jimclean2]

Out of all the reviews, this is by far the best. Awesome work capturing the nuances of the 54.

[@wornandwound]

Thank you!!

[@_sr]

I love traditional, old school, smaller watch sizes. Much comfortable to wear and much classy. With a "nothing to prove" attitude. Cool .. !

[@thomasreed49]

Nothing to prove nothing to show off to anybody just to know that you have a top quality unassuming Watch On your wrist is enough for me.

[@turnbasedtoddy7664]

My favorite watch of the past 5 years. It’s so hard to find a small dive watch and this one kills. I love Zach going into these in depth reviews, more of this please!

[@laimejannister5627]

20 years later...Tudor Black Bay 12

[@jamiewood8352]

Your review was the deciding factor. Just ordered it. I better love it 😅

[@williamcoolidge9884]

This is, by far, the best BB54 review I've seen on YT. And I've watched nearly all of them as I own both the black BB58 and blue BB58 and was considering buying the BB54. This video convinced me it's worth the leap and I have a BB54 on the way. If it turns out the way I expect the BB58's will be sold and the BB54 will become my primary dive watch. I like smaller vintage style watches so this is right up my alley.

[@relosapulso]

Did you end up selling the bb58's?

[@dannyg6592]

Zach, this is the best review of the BB54 I've seen. Very comprehensive. As a BB58 owner, I appreciate what Tudor has done with the 54. However, I love the red triangle and will never sell my 58. Cheers!

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching, appreciate it!

[@michaelriera6277]

I love the gilt dial, the distinctive coin edge large crown (reminds me of a Rolex Big Crown), and the Snow flake seconds hand. All these wonderful characteristics have been watered down in the 54.

[@patrickhartmann1540]

I own both. My wrist is 6.5”. The 54 wears amazingly, but it doesn’t really say “diver” in its presence. It actually reminds me of an Explorer 36mm (that’s to say, a smallish and elegant tool watch) I also love that it is a more true homage to the subbies of yore. So when I want to have a diver on wrist, 58. When I want vintage styled tool watch (that happens to have a dive bezel) it’s the 54.

[@austinzizzi1142]

It calls back to the time where field watches were just starting to turn into the first divers

[@robertdukes4420]

Perfectly put

[@williamgoggin3633]

Couldn't agree more perfectly put

[@ShashwatShukla10]

You must be rich!

[@patrickhartmann1540]

@@ShashwatShukla10 If it was two Pateks, I’d have to agree. But two BBs equal one new Speedy, so I’d not say rich.

[@mybrainlikesthings]

People are often at a loss for words to properly communicate the watch qualities, including sizing. But you nailed it!

[@anthonystevens8683]

A great comparison video Zach. I've yet to see the BB54 in real life but from what I have seen I'm quite impressed by it. I have the BB58 and find it interesting that the BB54 is not just a reduced version of that watch. There are some things that I prefer on the BB58 though, that little red splash of colour around the lume pip and the snowflake seconds hand. I think I do prefer the non guilt bezel markings but might miss the minute index markings but this is true to the watch that the 54 is paying homage to so not a big deal. At some point I'll visit an AD and have a look, probably to see if it's different enough to live along side my 58. Currently I'm not sure that they are different enough but we shall see. The Pelagos 39 is a watch that could live along side the 58 though as it's different enough, that mild sunburst dial and bezel, flat crystal and full modern tool watch look being all brushed titanium with the T-Fit clasp. For now I have no intention of selling my 58.

[@aleksandarkuraica3229]

54 looks better to me than the 58 in person. You need to see them in person.

[@GrumblingForesight]

I’ve tried both at the AD a couple of times now and I 100% agree with this sentiment. Its elements feel more consideredly designed to my eyes. Oh and the thiness makes it feel sublime to wear in a similar way to a 5 digit Datejust reference.

[@wintermute8315]

100%. It looks way more refined.

[@Klavaturdeswahnsinns]

I Own a 58 Bronze and the 54. Both awesome. Both Great size, but i trink the 54 is just perfect

[@michaelriera6277]

I found the straight lugs to wear bigger than the curved lugs of the 58.

[@alsaeedm]

Agreed.

[@AdamMacFarland-i7z]

I'm glad you pointed out the width of the individual lugs and that the 54 has a boxier look. That's exactly what I like better than the 58. And I do like the 58.

[@pwilkinson714]

The W&W review of this watch blows Hodinkee's review out of the water. Fantastic work, Zach!

[@wornandwound]

Thanks!!

[@RedwoodAggie]

"Welcome to my brain." 😂I think you're the first person to really reasonably explain why the BB54 doesn't wear as small as it should on paper. Unfortunately I still feel it's too small for me, but I'm kind of on the above average side of wrist size and an edge case on height. You brought up some interesting points about where the BB58 fits into the lineup. I personally am not tired of the Tudor Black Bay divers with gilt, but the gilt matching on the bezel of the BB58 works best in my mind, even if it's not true to the original (I think). Maybe it's the fact that Tudor matches the lume up so well and the overall look is so well done. My AD rep said the 39mm watches are definitely Tudor's bread & butter, so maybe that's why they have so many watches in that size. 🤷‍♂ I do wonder IF they refresh the 58 or just change it up altogether for a different model. Snowflake markers might overlap the P39 a bit. Of course, if they did those markers on a refreshed blue 58 I'd be all over that. I'd love blue in a P39 as well. Tudor just needs to give us one of them and it's my next big watch purchase. Thanks for the great video!

[@Eric-i1r]

I have 7.25” wrists. A 58 looks a little small on me, perhaps, but I love it. I will definitely get a 54 as well. I love the vintage vibes.

[@alexanderslowinski2054]

I have the same size wrist, do you think a BB54 will look good on us? The bracelet on the 54 tapers down to 16mm if I am not mistaken?

[@mrautomatech2329]

Favorite vid in a while. I really appreciate all of the details regarding dimensions/observations that really help us out.

[@ilmostro16]

I still prefer the 58 with the wider hands, red triangle, thinner bezel line weights, and overall better case/lug dimension balance. But it would be nice to have a new 58 with the same dial treatment as the 54 (looks like a subtle black sunburst) and the updated bracelet with t-fit clasp. When that happens, I’m finally buying a BB58.

[@stu632]

Have you tried the 54 though?

[@michaelriera6277]

Yes and the 54 wears very nice. However, aesthetically I preferred the 58. Love the gilted bezel, red triangle ( Rolex Big Crown), the unique snow flake hands second, and the large coined edge crown that matched the coin edge bezel. It’s the sum of the these characteristics that make an otherwise boring watch special.

[@UnseenHero]

Thanks for the extensive comparison to the 58! I would want to see the 54 in person as I really like thin watches. I agree that I'd like to see a model without the gilt on the dial. I'm pretty sure over the next two years we'll get more color ways as well as all Black Bay models getting the T fit clasp. Now to wait for the 5 link bracelet to make its way to these watches

[@bpeterfi]

This is the most comprehensive BB54 review out of all - I've seen many - and I also like that at the end you made a clear conclusion supported by logical facts. Everyone else just says if you like smaller, take the 54 if you prefer larger take the 58. Thanks:D But as someone who can't really decide between the two, after this video I'm convinced.

[@wornandwound]

Thanks!

[@michaelriera6277]

The 58 in black/gilt is so dynamic and pleasing to look at and wear. There is a warm charm to the 58 coming fromh the gilt bezel. It has a nice pop of color from the red Triangle that is also found on the Rolex Big Crown. The 58 design borrows cues from Rolex/Tudors of past without being an exact replica. Also, at 39mm it sits comfortably on most wrists. A lot of that charm is lost with the 54.

[@jicalzad]

although i agree, some people prefer a more subtle/subdued look. To me, i would prefer the 54 mainly for the clasp.

[@michaelriera6277]

For sure, the clasp is functionally superior.

[@stevem3556]

I thought so too on paper and photos. But, I went and tried both on and found the 54 is noticeably slimmer and compact (in a better way). And the absence of the red triangle and 15 min track bezel gave it a much cleaner look. I do wish they kept the big crown of the 58, but to each their own.

[@altanongun2804]

The review I’ve been waiting for months👌

[@DeanoTXR53]

Love this analysis. Goes to show how the diameter is not the end all be all, but how all the little details influence the way our brains perceive objects. The 54 seems like a bit of a design masterclass. Thanks for breaking it all down!

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching!

[@stu632]

Great comment and agree!

[@ron5545]

Nice review! This is the best comparison of these two watches I've seen yet. There are aspects from both watches that I wish I could combine like the overall size of the 54 with the aesthetic and shape of the 58.

[@cousineddie3302]

Both are excellent. I own the 54 and i really love the watch. Bezel action is fantastic. Super accurate -1 a day for me. T fit etc etc. i love both just got the money when 54 came out and bought it. No regret

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for sharing!

[@muzaffer3]

One of the best reviews i have ever seen 🙌🏽

[@wornandwound]

Thanks so much!

[@gabigolz]

I was able to get the 54. It’s amazing

[@nate.or.nodate]

I love Zach reviews. Always on another level when it comes to the details. Bravo as always!

[@wornandwound]

Glad you like them!

[@jonskeggi6132]

I really like the more square-ish proportions of the 54, I'm hoping for a revamp of the 58 with all the new improvements at the 39mm size.

[@simadologist]

That's! I really liked your "semi coherent rambling" because they made a lot of sense to me, and particularly because I have a recently bought BB58, which I am considering selling or exchanging for a BB54. I have tried on the BB54 and I like how it sits on the wrist. But I should also mention that I have started paying attention to the BB54 AFTER I picked up the Rolex Explorer 127240, which is a 36mm watch. I just can't getnover that size and that's what makes the BB54 so alluring. Thanks again for an excellent review!

[@jsnyder0512]

Great video Zach. I didn’t think the 54 was enough to trump the 58, it is.

[@olatundeogunmefun5136]

Great video and interesting take on evolution of the Tudor catalogue. Also I must say, as someone who has been following Worn and Wound for years, your presentation style keeps getting better and better Zack, can tell the work you put into it. Phenomenal job!

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for sharing!

[@robertofresard134]

Great review. Keep up the good work sr.

[@mitchmatic8029]

Great vid-and analysis of proportion. I can’t unsee it now. And though a large wristed 58 owner, really drawn to that larger, squarer, end case now. Thanks a lot! lol

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching!

[@chasekemp4982]

With the 54 bringing the crown in and slimming that big slab of steel on the side of the case fixed all the issues I had with the 58.❤

[@gregnatividad8345]

This is how a review should be. Very comprehensive! So the 54 still doesn’t have the ceramic lume right?

[@u.u.u9969]

I finally tried one on my 8in wrist and it looked great. Blew my mind. Just were it loosely below the bone.

[@gonzo0626900]

I have tried on the 54 recently and it wore very well. Given the similarities beteween the two, that you pointed out, I am wondering why Tudor released the 54 in the exact same colorway than the 58. You could do a dark green-ish bezel or something that isn't offered anywhere else in the catalogue to differentiate.

[@ExpeditedProductions]

The 54 is a gorgeous watch. But it is too small for my wrist. I have a 7” wrist and it just looks silly. Would it have looked silly in 1954? No. There was no other option. I own a 41mm Black Bay, GMT, and Chrono and that size is PERFECT for me. While I can appreciate how smaller wrists can appreciate the smaller sizes and I think that design and construction is superb, I am glad Tudor still makes larger pieces as well. The 54 shouldn’t be looked at as better or worse than the 41 or the 58, it should be looked at as Tudor listening and providing for a wider audience. There will never be a perfect watch (but Tudor is getting close). Wear what you love!

[@gamesgeargadgets]

I guarantee it doesn’t look silly on your wrist. A 7” wrist is a normal wrist, it’s not a giant wrist. A 37mm watch will merely look more svelte or classier.

[@Goldendoodle.178]

Agree with you that the 54 is nice but not on a 7 inch wrist. As a Tudor GMT owner I love all of the things about it that others hate. I’ve tried to wear 39mm watches and they just don’t work for me. Love 40mm and slightly above. The Tudor GMT hype has died down but it’s a future classic. I haven’t taken it off since acquiring it two weeks ago, it’s that good and has replaced my Sub as a daily wearer.

[@blairphelps7215]

Great review. As I have the blue BB58 I am not likely to run out and buy the BB54. If I didn't though, the 54 would be on my wrist as we speak.

[@Vader965]

@10:31 is that a defect on the 9 o'clock marker? ...

[@Neoxenon]

I wasn’t expecting to like this review, but let me say that it is awesome. Thank you for covering the design nuances that very few reviews go into… I really appreciated the research and analysis. You’ve got a new subscriber and fan…

[@wornandwound]

Glad to hear it! Thanks so much!

[@sarahgoldfarb913]

We love you, Weiss.

[@I-Libertine]

One of the best and most helpful reviews I've seen. Subscribed.

[@wornandwound]

Awesome, thank you!

[@TheWatchOut]

Loved the review. Very comprehensive and informative!

[@wornandwound]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@markjonz]

This watch is just so cute. The proportions of the case and bracelet are perfect, and all the detail changes are nice refinements.

[@wornandwound]

Glad you like it!

[@darkeye77]

I have thought this since it came out, but couldn’t put it into words. Really appreciate this analysis.

[@briane1116]

I have both (and a 7 1/4” wrist) and I prefer the Fifty-Eight. I don’t mind the older clasp and actually prefer it, since it’s a little smaller. There’s just something about the Black Bay Fifty-Eight that hits all the marks.

[@PeteMcConvill]

Neither is a watch Im into but found myself fascinated by the analysis - great job zac

[@DomaDful]

Nice review and comparison..what is the wrist size here ?

[@RebirthBeyond]

Excellent review and appreciate that you measured the mid-case.

[@rikkidee]

Love the 54 it's the perfect size. Came across this channel by accident. So glad I did, ( yes I subscribed. ) enjoy your no BS review and style of content looking forward to more. Is it true you're doing a Black Bay 54 give away, but only to new subscribers in Australia ? Can't blame a guy for trying. Regards Rikki

[@richardwarren2024]

As always, Zack, your reviews are absolutely excellent and very detailed. Thank you.

[@wornandwound]

Glad you like them!

[@ericknoerr1072]

Incredibly well done review.

[@wornandwound]

Thanks!

[@Jtjustintimberlake]

I love Tudor. My only issue with the BlackBay line is the lack of a date complication. Maybe the next 58 will have a date to differentiate between them

[@cristianosamble]

thats precisely what I love about the BB.... the no date, lol.

[@lucioledizerot196]

Best review of this watch I've seen yet!

[@wornandwound]

Thanks!

[@dc6895]

I got a 54 today, its the best watch for 3900€.

[@floo4235]

i was always on the fence about getting a 58, but when i saw the 54 there was no question i had to get it. been my daily driver since and i love it

[@b_altmann]

Great review. We’re now so used to big watches that this 54 is very unusual, especially for a diver. I like a thin watch.

[@watchin-stoof988]

Great review. Now Tudor, please, bring out a thinner BB Pro. Amazing design, but god do I hate the thickness of it

[@scottflowers8601]

Everything you mentioned that you would want in a new watch is on the Pelagos. White markers, ceramic bezel.

[@MrZanzibar123]

Great points as always, Zach, thanks!

[@AmazingMaxStuff]

Great review! One question: are the markers really rose gold? I always though they were brass as the hands

[@MaleGolfer]

This is a really good review and comparison of two watches I am very interested in. I have to say, Zach, this is one of your best presentations. I watch a lot of your stuff at W&W, and usually you seem a bit stiff and scripted. On this review you seem much more natural and conversational, and your personality comes through. Maybe you're just getting more use to being in front of the camera. All in all, excellent content.

[@wornandwound]

Thanks so much!!

[@ClassicChevyC10]

I'm disinterested in the gilt dials. I wanted a BB41(no bezel) identical to the old one except for the new clasp and the in house movement with a long power reserve. Instead we now have a shiny black dial with gilt accents and a jubilee bracelet. Great to have the option but we lost the closest option to an Explorer (at least a modern one).

[@hunderskunder2596]

Best watch under 5K easily.

[@diegoeffio]

Best review I've seen of this watch!

[@stu632]

God in depth review. Great watch. I got one in addition to my 58. Different animals.

[@wornandwound]

Right on!

[@frank327]

Brilliant in-depth review 👏👏👏

[@wornandwound]

Thank you kindly!

[@MadA-qc3to]

Hi, would you prefer yellow markers on the bezel to match the dial, or white ones?

[@kart182]

Love the script and thought

[@winternimbus]

Great review. Really great. Thank you 🎉

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching!

[@pierremartin9048]

Excellent comparison

[@vantage789]

I still haven't come across the 54 at any shops but would love to do a side by side comparo with the 58.

[@hobi.jardine]

Will definitely get it at some point! My skinny wrist is very happy. LOL.

[@FrancisBaconthe3rd]

This is an amazing review. Thank you!

[@wornandwound]

Glad it was helpful!

[@psgamer388]

When I tried a 54 on I was surprised it didn't feel much smaller than a 58. It is much thinner but it felt boxy to me and the ratio of the dial to the bezel felt off to me vs the 58.

[@danielmeier8321]

Extremely cool watch, Extremely cool video.

[@wornandwound]

Glad you liked it!

[@Klingard]

58 is for the people who can’t buy the Rolex Submariner, 54 is for the people who like vintage style watch.

[@mrautomatech2329]

Where the hell can I take a look at one of these in person? No one seems to carry them anywhere.

[@nottherealaaron]

Does every BB54 have the lume pip off center of the triangle?

[@maksmara]

Spot on wrt the guilt dial. Tudor, we need that 54 in a more contemprorary black and white dial similar to previous bb36 with the smile dial.

[@drpeterolsson]

Excellent video!

[@wornandwound]

Thank you very much!

[@drkesrf]

I own the 54. The way I describe the difference is the 58 feels more bulbous. Has a thinner bezel with coin knurling, and the lugs seem way bigger. The 54 feels more flat with more aggressive and thick knurling. The proportions of the 54 are far superior IMO.

[@vianouche1]

Very good review, thank you

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching!

[@EastCoastDigs]

I like both I really wish the 54 had a larger crown. My sausage fingers love the corn on my bb36 and hate setting my dj. This one feels more like setting the dj

[@azhadmohammad7810]

would love to see you make a review for Tag Heuer Carrera 36mm, love your videos though

[@wornandwound]

Thanks for watching!

[@peterstorey9000]

Lovely looking watch but way to small for me at 37mm I’m team Pelagos it’s perfection 🔥

[@teaparty54]

I wish they launched this one with a more interesting color - say, a drab olive / military green.

[@KeepingWatchUK]

It’s a nice watch but it’s tiny. I prefer the OG 58 overall anyway, and even that is on the modest side in terms of sizing.

[@homeboi4159]

Almost perfect. I want a 36mm diver.

[@WatchesnguitarsDK]

You can find 36mm Tudor Submariners for reasonable prices. And Longines Legend Divers, too.

[@RA-yc9fb]

Id love a new 54 with white print. Enough of vintage inspired patinas. Let the new watch be new already

[@MountieHoo1105]

I bet the Tudor Ranger bracelet would fit on the BB58.

[@Dialandhands]

I really wanna get this on wrist! Well now that I think about it probably won’t be a good idea because I’ll probably fall in love and over obsess over it until I can purchase it🙈🤣

[@GrumblingForesight]

That’s exactly what happened to me

[@fabriziopizzanelli7035]

I love the balck bay 58 and 54 but they would look even better with the rose logo on the dial. It's such a cool nod to past Tudor models.

[@lomadonkey]

The rose is on the crown now while back in the days on the crown was a crown ;)

[@fabriziopizzanelli7035]

@lomadonkey that's true hahaha but it would still looks great on the dial like the older black bay 41 models

[@rajm6494]

Will there be a blue version in the bb54

[@wornandwound]

We hope so!

[@ceejaydeesoozaa]

MY DREAM PIECE: BLACK BAY 54/58 WITH BURGUNDY BEZEL, GILT ROSE SMILEY DIAL AND NON RIVETED BRACELET

[@sts265]

Bb54, for me is the black bay perfected. Vintage inspired all the way without modern upsizing

[@michaelriera6277]

After the 54 hype train comes to a halt, people will realize how dull looking this watch is and how super the 58 was.

[@SpektrikMusic]

The simplicity is why the 54 is great, it's such a versatile watch

[@DapperProf]

I love this new size, but Tudor needs to get more creative with these smaller watches. The standard BB58 (and the 54) are fine, but too simple/boring. I love my SnG Black Bay GMT, but really wish they do something like that at these smaller sizes. Browns, red, two tone, etc.

[@adamz2242]

Random passerby but I think the sound could be improved with some room acoustic treatment

[@wornandwound]

Noted!

[@JLJLJL-h7n]

Keeping the same lug width at 20mm was most likely a business move to keep costs low. No need to manufacture smaller bracelets and rubber straps. Luckily it works because it does make the 54 look more robust. Can't wait to see what what colors come out next. Probably blue but I'm hoping for other options since brands are being more open-minded about colors these days.

[@jimmymichaels18]

The depth of your review is fantastic. I'm sold on the 54 - I like the proportion and it feels dressier because it appears more understated while also having that vintage look.

[@wornandwound]

Glad it was helpful!