Worse Than I Thought...$900 Can-Am DS 650 Quad (Part 2)

I reassemble the 2000 Can-Am DS 650 Quad to make sure all the parts for the top end are here for it. I work on getting spark. Will This quad run? #650cc, #Fix, #CanAm,
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[@2vintage]

Well what do you guys think so far about this quad? Who thinks it's going to run? Please SUBSCRIBE and LIKE if you enjoyed! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my new projects on Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for all the support!

[@GG-cw1er]

When is the race with the tacate and the 450 r

[@2vintage]

@@GG-cw1er soon

[@robertausdemore7855]

You will get this running! You’ve gotten pretty good at diagnosing and fixing. I have one of these it’s a Beast but smokes badly. I’m going to have to go through the top end this spring. Very excited to see this build!!

[@angel-if7pc]

are you gonna post another video of the 1986 Honda fourtax 250 anytime this week?

[@2vintage]

@@angel-if7pc yes Friday!

[@powerpit48]

It is going to run, you are not the type of guy to give up on it.

[@slabdaddy4209]

Good luck getting that quad back together I'd be scared to death I only know 2 strokes!!I'm sure you'll figure it out👍

[@helplure]

it's not hard at all dont worry

[@checkforfleas9452]

Hell 2 smokers are hard man. More power to ya lol. I can’t own them. I only know four strokers

[@fatfightingbros9639]

So why did some people say 2 strokes are harder to work on and some say 4 strokes are hard to work on

[@jovanemontes80]

@@fatfightingbros9639 id say 2 strokes and 4 strokes are both easy to work on. Then again i rebuild huge ship engines for a living.

[@briankennedy5578]

@2vintage , I have a DS650 I aquired as a basket case. Was in a severe accident. It also had no spark . You are likely correct about your ground. Look around where the rear subframe bolts to the frame (bottom part) There is a spot where the grounds connect together. The battery mounts in back on subframe. So battery ground connects to subframe. There should be a ground wire that connects the subframe to the frame and frame to engine. Your issue might be that you didnt have the engine bolted in. Thats my guess. Have to have good ground from engine to battery. Best bet is to connect a large wire from a bolt on engine to the ground connection at subframe. Sounds like everything is working like it should. The ac voltage from stator will increase with rpm. Its not low just turning too slow.

[@everydaymechanic4657]

Hey Joe pull all your connectors apart and make sure the pins are not bent or pulled up through the plug .(people tend to pull plugs apart by the wires and end up pulling the pins back)👍

[@MrPunkrocker2012]

Had this happen on a cam sensor

[@benperl1833]

Definitely keep this quad man you HAVE to. Such a dope piece to the collection

[@nickpierce4228]

It's a bombardier..it's complete junk

[@benperl1833]

@@nickpierce4228 it’s more of the aesthetic for me

[@302mustanggt8]

@@benperl1833 sorry to disappoint but I don't believe he would keep a quad just for its looks when it doesn't perform good

[@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K]

Nick Pierce Have you ever rode one to tell lol these things whooped raptors back in the day on the dunes.

[@benperl1833]

@@302mustanggt8 but it was In atv off-road fury 4

[@Thelifethatimlivin]

I had the 05 X package. Awesome machines. The DS has a dry sump oil system. The oil tank is in behind and just below the headlight. I believe that oil line you were confused about goes to the under side of the oil tank.

[@colestella7856]

Good job I am impressed. I am working on a four wheeler myself and yours is going better

[@2vintage]

what four wheeler are you working on?

[@jessetippett8639]

Same haha I’m working on a Kawasaki bayou 300

[@Esclamato-zl3lj]

@@jessetippett8639 I have one and its the best atv for around the house and some light trail riding

[@Blue04Z71]

My last Bombardier ate 3 cdi’s. After i put the 3rd one on I sold it. If battery voltage got too low from sitting and you went to start it the cdi popped. Sticking with yamahas now haha

[@finster7582]

Tip- check the heads w a straight edge (top n bottom) to make sure theyre not warped..weird that it came w/ 3...😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@2vintage]

Yeah good idea! Idk why it came with three, very strange

[@Thehighlander123]

Its 11pm in Scotland and I’m working in the morning but need to watch part 2 dude.

[@chrisjones7869]

You have the patience of Job. I would never have the mindset to dry fit everything like that. Awesome job man. God bless.👍🇺🇸

[@insiderate]

So lucky to find stuff like this. In my area this will be worth 1700 not running

[@charlesdarwin4780]

What I've learned about wiring small engines. If you can't find it, replace the pulse "box". Almost always works unless a wire is split.

[@nlesnippets7214]

Awesome video I have a 2004 ds650 they are really nice bikes and are very fast keep up the good work!!

[@newenglandlife978]

I’m working on an 01 now and oh boy these remind me of bmws. This machine definitely takes patience!

[@sugashizane]

Btw.. good job good video, keep it up bud, your learning the ways, and it will only get easier every project. I've seen that stock bike win $500 racing a Corvette one night on a float trip. Great bike!

[@hubvill284]

I would check all of your safety circuits or bypass them to see if you can get spark. I few places I would look: Throttle safety - some atvs need a 1/16' play in the throttle - one way to test this is slightly hold down on the throttle and then test for spark. Key Switch Run Switch Ignition Coil Any other coils in the ignition circuit Fuses (but you already check those) Test resistances at your ground. Should be very low.

[@andrewarsenault4062]

Good stuff joe looks like u got a great deal especially with all those extra parts

[@user-fi3fx5my2s]

Your doing an amazing job with all these beasts! To bad your clear acroos the country, we could do some good business together. Ive got another 10 bikes and quads, to pick up and bring in some salvage some not to terrible bad. A couple old Artic Cats that i don't really want to mess with but im sure i will, once Brian gets back from MMI, Im gonna let him pick a few to fix up. Im sure he'll want the Kx's and RM's from the early to mid 80's. Found an ATK, Thats gonna be fun, missing some critical components. But we may have them in back.

[@wesleyoos71]

You have yourself a solid business. Start up with a little ad saying yoy can do repairs start small and work up. You have more knowledge about this stuff than most people that say they have been machanics for 30 years

[@rickyparrish2570]

I wouldnt let this guy fix a bicycle

[@wesleyoos71]

Why don't you learn to ride one, training wheels don't count. Maybe you should watch another channel then. Negative comments are best kept to ones self.

[@rickyparrish2570]

@@wesleyoos71 Did that insult sound good in your head before you typed it? I've been riding dirt bikes my entire life. I rebuild dirt bike, atv and utv engines for a living. This guy got confused over a 3 piece cam chain tensioner and you think people should pay him to work on their stuff. And only positive comments are allowed? What is this a safe space? Lol

[@wesleyoos71]

I don't give a fuck if your a rocket scientist. I don't need to here about all your credentials. All am saying is for someone who is farely young he's on a good path. Life is a learning experience meaning we are always learning no matter how old or how wise.

[@gtisid]

have similar issues with a ktm lc4 changed the cdi at great expense still no continuity through the harness. so many stupid parts on modern 4 strokes that prevent start up just frustrate me to death trying to work out electrical issues on them😤

[@davehouston1410]

God I love your videos . I hope you become a rich man with all your hard work.

[@burnheretic3950]

Going to go look at a 87 yamaha warrior tomorrow. Running driving, plastic is good. Lights even work. Guys asking 600. Looking to pick it up for 500. The good buys are out there in my state, just have to be patient. Probably going to sell my 98 500 scrambler for around 1200 in a month or two.

[@rickyparrish2570]

Ive never worked on a can-am quad before but im 99% sure there should be a spring on that cam chain tensioner. My guess is someone meesed with the engine, timed it correctly but failed to put the spring back on the tensioner. This made the engine jump time and valves hit piston. No one who has built engines before would think that tensioner is complete as you have it.

[@shanekelley7807]

Its a hydraulic tensioner. No spring

[@Josh-Rc-more]

Make sure ur battery is good I had a 650 ds n itd run for a bit without battery but ones it died it would loose fire until the battery was charged fully again

[@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K]

Yeah mine was like that it would sound horrible when bump started from a dead battery. But once a new battery was put in it would go back to sounding the way it’s suppose to sound

[@hunterkamp64]

Your garage is getting full joe! Time to start selling again😂😉

[@melindamailloux2637]

Like your method of trouble shooting . Never easy when you start with a basket case . Good job .

[@Coltonm8994]

Great video. Could you think about making a video on how to diagnose problems for people who have mechanical knowledge but not as much as you.

[@brknpropfpv3899]

I’m sure you will get it running, the question is it a keeper? Enjoy the content keep the videos coming. Would be curious what kind of compression it has. 😎🤙🏻

[@checkforfleas9452]

Puts the head on with no gasket lol

[@user-fi3fx5my2s]

Head, check. Bolts, check. Dont go nuts, gonna need to get it together. Dont burn yourself out yet. Would set timing yet either. Cams are good, dont jinx it...😮

[@jamescoute4653]

Look for a polaris outlaw or preditor build

[@mj-7444]

I figured it was probably a bad thing lol because these cost so much money too restore dude

[@eugenesbackyardrepair4593]

Hopefully even if has issues you can sort them out. Mine was so powerful it would about rip u off the seat and was scary fast. Should eat up ur 660 raptor np. Good luck with ur fix

[@evoantz7342]

What ended up being the issue for no spark?

[@briankennedy5578]

If you dont have a lid for the air box you need to modify the carb slide. If not it will run like crap and probably ruin the starter sprag by backfiring. Ask me how i know. If needed i can give you more info on modification. It's very simple.

[@23FABILA]

Is there a special tool to loosen the oil bleeder inside the oil filter housing? It’s larger than a #10 standard screw driver and extremely tight and I don’t want to damage the slot.

[@DaltonScharberg]

Have a good one!

[@jaydentycholiz1309]

How is this the top comment 😂

[@julianburbano807]

I would appreciate if you make a Maintenance video (change oil, service) I can't find it! Thank you!

[@alekrudewicz7255]

You need to buy a renegade and repair one of those I think it would be a sick video!

[@0ptimal]

I'll trade you a motorized wheelchair that only needs carb cleaned for that kerosene heater. 😄

[@kerrjason8537]

Spark plug boots go bad too

[@Pittsburgh-412]

Have you ever had a Yamaha warrior? Those are amazingly reliable quads

[@2vintage]

Yes I have

[@Blue04Z71]

Agreed, warriors are solid just not really fast haha.

[@drewdew6874]

He fixed one up. Not to long ago

[@Yamaha350w]

I have an 01 warrior its bin good just not as fast as i would like 👍

[@kevinhumphrey932]

To time that engine there is a bolt that you have to remove that on the underneath side of the engine you'll need to grind a bolt to a point and install it threw the case into the crankshaft the crankshaft shaft has a self centering v cut into the crank that holds the crank solid

[@evanwilliams2602]

Check the gap on the PICKUP COIL

[@user-fi3fx5my2s]

Rectifier charges battery.stator feeds it.

[@MAD450r2]

You should do a small garage build remodel. Insolate then that little heater will warm a greater area in there not just 6 or 8 feet in front of it

[@SimplyTubing]

I got a 03 raptor 660 SE for 1000. Big bored, modified intake. Everything is just balls to the wall maxed. I just needed to buy a swing arm and axle and it’s a beast

[@racequad9]

Does it currently turn on? That's a smoking deal!

[@SimplyTubing]

@@racequad9 yes it works now, It works very well

[@racequad9]

@@SimplyTubing nice man! What state do you live? You can't any quad in Florida for under $1,000....even if it needs work

[@SimplyTubing]

@@racequad9 louisiana

[@ben0047]

I need u to come to my house and fix my quad ur so good at it lol

[@sugashizane]

Sounds like a bad stator.. or cdi.. if coil test good? And pick up is working testing good just needs cut and re-soldered. Doesn't it need a battery?

[@briankennedy5578]

Yes it does need a battery. It will not run without a good battery connected. Some will. Ds650 will not. Wont have spark without engine bolted in either. My guess is once he gets it put back together there will be spark.

[@978twostrokegarage2]

Stay tuned for part 3 start n rip 😎

[@manuelalfonso7590]

Yo Estoi armando un motor de eso pero quiero ver cómo va la parte del cloch como biene todo

[@matthewdeberardinis6403]

Don’t forget to put those metal triangles in front of the motor they’re motor mounts.

[@2vintage]

Yep!

[@michaelbosko4643]

Can you get a 1999-2007 cr250 or 125

[@evanwilliams2602]

What your pointing at at the first part of video is the pickup coil

[@hunterkamp64]

Dotn forget that corrugated washer for the thermostat, you will need that

[@hunterschaferoutdoors0219]

What was that part hanging down you move out of the way in the first bit of the film? It’s got two sensors on it, the radiator hose hooks to it

[@chrisfairs4332]

Do you not have to ground both the spark plugs at the same time to get spark

[@eliloomis7860]

not sure where you find parts for it because i couldnt find anything so i sold mine was a awesome bike tho

[@RagdollRacingInc]

If you burn it you could make your money back from views if it doesn't work hahahahaha👍

[@dublinbikereire]

Joe I have a 99 Cr 250 that is street legal,just wondering if you know where I could pick up a kickstand anywhere because leaning it against walls and trees is a pain ?

[@ayookb4338]

Can you tell me where your rpm wires are connected too? I know ones to the coils

[@bigbeef8935]

I just picked up a total barn find 2003 ds650 Baja, what’s the way to test the fan? I wanna give it all a once over before trail riding

[@kyleames370]

I have a four wheeler that I took mudding And then I did an oil change and whenever I give it a lot of gas doesn’t want to Rêve Up it stays running so I don’t think it’s the carburetor and I took it down the road full throttle and it has barely any power do you have any idea of what may have happened

[@allmotorz1345]

That voltage signal part is called the trigger

[@juansanchez842]

You think you can help me to figure it out what's wrong with my DS650

[@keithparady2594]

What’s with the two spark plugs

[@stevedustin6666]

Hello how r u I have a ds650 2005 I put a new carburetor runs in idle but push the gas its skips what can be the problem

[@trevorsmith6833]

I know sometimes low or no oil pressure can cause spark issues.

[@stevemikel7352]

Do these bikes have a choke they have to I thought being their carbureted right? I can’t find mine can someone give me some info on this?

[@michaelatkins2154]

Love the vids man. Keep up the great work!

[@burnheretic3950]

Get some feeler gauges to check distance between stator and pickup wires. U said its supposed to be .030 thou of a inch. Edit: would it not be more precise to locate TDC with a dial indicator.

[@dublinbikereire]

I’d get rid of them ugly front fenders if your keeping it

[@2vintage]

Haha we will see! Makes it unique. That's for sure!

[@hayestucker1040]

They are stock I think are the only bike that has those

[@burnheretic3950]

I would think you would covered in shit after even a quick rip around the yard if u take them off.

[@josepena2024]

never take them fenders off to be honest your lucky to even get one with them still intaked. those fenders are iconic for sure.

[@jose_xavierjx1954]

I like that beast and can you do a restoration on the cr250 that thing need it badly we could do like a money rise so you can restore it

[@Cal_Sned6]

I'm excited for the first ride😁

[@Stay_active100]

What was the intake clearances ?

[@nickwilliams2462]

Yo bro I got 3 of these, just letting you know that the tensioner is hydraulic doesn’t tighten until the the motors running.

[@D0P3Y70]

Can someone tell me where I can find a ds650 motor or do I have to rebuild it myself

[@shartne]

your getting it done.

[@nou943]

if all else fails you should swap a 250 2t motor into it

[@mmaaddict78]

It’s way too heavy for a 250 2t engine. Those DS quads are tanks.

[@zacklamers1734]

Yo so your from my area and my budget for quads n bikes isn’t too high and I’d like to pick up a project quad/bike, but I stg every good deal I see on marketplace ends up on YOUR KZbin CHANNEL, how many bikes and quads do u have now? Is it enough yet?

[@charlesyates6687]

Need a iol heater then you can heat the garsge with oild motor oil

[@blazeM19]

Hey man about a year ago I crashed my raptor660 its been sitting and I have no time too figure the issue out im a new dad im 22 too a 1 year old its doing the same thing I get no spark it sat for a little while and wouldn't start up I just truly need help from someone out there any tips I truly want too ride again

[@racequad9]

Make a video about it. Better advice is given when they can see, and hear, the issue. Good luck

[@ventura9513]

I wonder how hard it would be to turn a quad into a Radio Controlled machine,,, would be a lot of work but i reckon the results will be quite satisfying...... maybe an idea for a future project mate

[@jonmelvin5682]

I guess no cam sencer. You will get stick with it also if motor not grounded maybe why bo spark

[@killianmurphy5278]

I've pw 80 there lost spark after hitting massive puddle cant get it to spark again anyone any idea be sound

[@fullsend5304]

What GoPro do you use and what mount brand do you use also were can I get it I'm trying to find one

[@jaredvandemark1554]

Hello, do you have any utility quads? I am looking for a recon 250, or a fourtrax 300. I am interested in making youtube videos riding quads. I have a trx125 that needs a carb clean and new fuel filters. I enjoy watching your videos and I have learned a lot! Keep up the good work :)

[@PopVtecZ]

How come you didn’t put the chain guide in? I think I missed that part

[@janisgrava111]

It looked like u didnt even put gasket between cilinder and head😲

[@spencersargent9120]

Yea he didnt haha

[@loganhusk3862]

did you have the ground for the starter grounded when testing spark? most quads have starter grounds, that one may not but ,most do.

[@chasemadness5927]

I need help timing my ssr 189 can u make a vid on how to time a dirt bike pls and thanks

[@allthrottlemotors4963]

Hey would you sell one of those heads? I need one for mine

[@keatonferrier4945]

unplug the rev limiter.. I had the same problem

[@GxCarter]

Thought a standard atv stator should be putting out 14-18volts. You said 4 volts, id check that

[@kadenreynolds3137]

hey guys. i’m going to look at a 2004 yfz 450. it does have the oil mod done to it. anything else i should closely look at? or in general?

[@dharveshsahadeo9369]

Love the videos keep up the good work

[@jodyhakamaki5602]

You just found your electrical problem.... The engine has to be grounded... That means bolts in am tight... The engines not grounded if there's no bolts In the motor Mounts....

[@briankennedy5578]

You are correct. These are prone to ground problems. Mine switches randomly from no spark , no crank , no lights , and no cooling fan. Clean the grounds and its good for a while.

[@damienchaisson3364]

Does those ds 650s have a clutch?