Worst MMO Ever? - League of Angels: Pact

[@citrus459]

Imagine being an divine angel thousands of years old, and then some dude with a sword comes along and now you're forced to work a 9-5 job.

[@capadociaash8003]

“Hey, Miss Angel of darkness. You haven’t completed the merchant guilds tax reports. I need those by Saturday”

[@ericlamb4501]

Didn't some monks write a book about that or something like hundreds of years ago? 🤔

[@ela-811]

​@@capadociaash8003This sole sentence sounds more interesting and engaging than the entire League of Angels Franchise.

[@darkpixel1128]

@@ela-811 there is almost certainly a manga with that plot - office drama in heaven

[@Geospasmic]

​@@ericlamb4501there's the Ars Goetia for giving jobs to demons, I'm sure there's one for angels too.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

I'm actually shocked that these games exist at all. I always assumed they were just sexy pop-ups that lead to virus downloads.

[@bob93561]

They're MUCH worse than a virus, there are fools being baited into spending 1000s of pounds and hours (most of it automated) on this shit.

[@lexnight8345]

It's a virus... for your brain 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheSpeep]

Arguably preferable.

[@brunop.8745]

that would've been better than this

[@whineyhoe]

The same kinds of people to click on ads like these are the one that click links on obvious phishing emails. There is always that one dude thats dumb enough to believe its a rich prince from some or other oriental country thats in need of having somebody to give excess monies to.

[@raptor152]

While you were going through the UI for the game and all the systems, I could literally feel my brain turning to mush.

[@brunop.8745]

Well, they're literally designed to do that, so really can't fault you

[@BigThonk999]

I've played games with excessive amounts of systems and UI clutter but even looking at this garbage heap of a game killed my sanity

[@dosbilliam]

@@BigThonk999 Same here; I remember every single currency Destiny 2 has gotten rid of in the past few years and even before that it still paled in comparison to that list. 😱

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The last time I played a game half the amount of systems, it was a f2p mmo that had already 10 years of updates behind it. This is worse than Raid Shadow Legends, which is actually a decent game, if you want gacha, but european fantasy instead of anime, and if you like turn based combat. (And I know that only because a streamer played it on occasion and showed the actual game instead of what the ads claim)

[@zephdoesthings]

This! I was just listening, and I could feel my brain slowly melting out my ears

[@AlwaysANemesis]

I used to do a _load_ of deep-diving into LoA, Wartune, and the myriad of other hilariously copy-pasted Korean grinder "MMOs" and the companies that make them. And let me tell you, the amount of subsidiaries, rebrandings, company websites that don't link to other associated company websites so it's back to Google you go, the entire market is like getting lost in the Millenium Puzzle but with more plagiarism. At some point, I was reaching singularity points where these companies were seemingly stealing content _from each other._

[@Toksyuryel]

LoA and Wartune are actually Chinese.

[@AlwaysANemesis]

@@Toksyuryel To be honest, it's hard to tell, as the supposed company headquarters as the IPs changed hands and "changed hands" ranged from all across the far east. But now that you mention it, China generally makes the most sense, as it's least likely (read: never) to pursue international copyright issues.

[@alchemicalvapour8950]

i used to play wartune many many years ago, i unironically have a nostalgic fondness for it. it was only after i started playing other mmos (many of which are dead or dying now) that i realized that there were other games of much higher quality out there. wartune, crystal saga, elsword. yea... fond memories in fun guilds

[@izmonster8459]

@@alchemicalvapour8950 oh god you mentioned crystal saga, my first ever youtube video as a child (because we all wanted to be youtubers back then) was about crystal saga 11 years ago. I was 8

[@DerlChur]

me too i spent waaay too much into wartune lol@@alchemicalvapour8950

[@HarvestBrook]

Prediction: the next League of Angels is going to use AI art. It just seems to be the trajectory this whole weird series is going, and I bet no one would even care given how little attention the developers expect their players to give the game anyway.

[@Darkprosper]

Automating one of the last non-automated parts of the game... Eventually AI will be advanced enough to program those games over and over on repeat, linking to the same bank account for the store purchases, and we will finally have the first game programmed by AI, played by AI, with micro-transactions paid by people.

[@kwayke9]

Bold of you to think Pact doesn't already use AI, hell, it's perfectly possible its predecessor has AI art

[@isadoracostahamsi163]

@@kwayke9 I guess they wouldnt steal manually if they could steal efficiently aka AI art

[@Echiewel]

The inconsistent lore already smells a bit like AI writing. The details that were not in the prompt could be what's inconsistent between the sisters.

[@Sorain1]

@@Darkprosper I'll be honest, I'd market that as 'A game by AI for AI you can host yourself'.

[@zavos5659]

I started watching this video as main monitor content. After about 20 minutes of psychic damage, I realized that, however indirectly, this game is most safely experienced as second monitor content.

[@onomatopoeia7505]

I think this "game" is best not played on any monitor.

[@tedferkin]

I fell asleep as Josh described all the features.... Even the review is second monitor background sound to lull you to sleep (this is not a diss to Josh, his voice is lush and I'm jealous)

[@Kris-wo4pj]

Its my listening while driving to work vid i know better at the first 2 vids on this game.

[@UmbraFaux]

It's 3rd monitor content for those of us without a 3rd monitor. Best to listen with the window minimized.

[@RockingRavine]

I did se same, here.

[@Aldourien]

The epic music after 2:18 is taken from 'Two Steps From Hell' and their album 'Battlecry'. It is called 'Cannon in D Minor'. They compose a lot of these soundtracks for various uses, mostly trailers; The Avengers, Harry Potter, Inception, Pirates of the Caribbean, and so on. Quite prolific and recognisable. For anyone wondering why this style is so familiar, listen to 'Heart of Courage'. You'll know immediately.

[@sunblade704]

I immediately knew it was music from Two Steps from Hell but couldn't remember the song, thank you for the title 👍

[@FranNyan]

I just spent 15 minutes searching through my music library to find that, thank you for beating me to it.

[@Aldourien]

No problems. I listened to Battlecry enough times to remember the songs. :)

[@WibblyLever2]

I've had Cannon in D Minor in my favourite songs playlists across multiple music streaming apps for almost 10 years. I got so excited hearing it in the wild!

[@HelasHandProductions]

came here to say this haha

[@risel56]

Man, you know a game is bad when Josh doesn't even give it a rating.

[@grandmasterofthrow6238]

Harvey Birdman Bear! 😮

[@Dyanosis]

"Just another shit expansion out of 10".

[@Marcimio]

New Feature unlocked out of ten

[@sanfransiscon]

He couldn't rate it because it didn't let him play :p

[@FuelDropforthewin]

Isekei Demon Waifu was the other one I can think of off the top of my head that he refused to rate.

[@normanmai7865]

21:46 The discrepancies CAN technically be explained. Josh states that their parents dying in both the Battle of Sanctuary and the Grace Star war is an error, but it could be that the Battle of Sanctuary was a singular event during the Grace Star War; they died in the Battle of Sanctuary during the Grace Star war. And about Glacia being born 1800 years after Mikaela despite being older, in Greek mythology, Hesiod begins with Chaos, Gaia, Tartarus, and Eros. Despite Eros being at the beginning, he is the son of Aphrodite, which makes Gaia either his grandmother or his great great grandmother; his mother didn't exist yet, depending on which source you want to believe. This means that, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THE STORY OF MIKAELA AND GLACIA IS A MYTH, IT MAKES SENSE IN SOME SORT OF WISHY WASHY HOCUS POCUS MYSTICAL SORT OF WAY but I'm betting the writers of League of Angels: Pact never even thought that far. Or they even had writers at all.

[@MikkoKuusirati]

Yeah, I was gonna comment on the battle < war thing myself. OTOH, that Hesiod made the same error just means Hesiod made the same error, _not_ that it isn't a nonsense error. :)

[@StarboyXL9]

one word explains it: Time Travel

[@miaouew]

how much autism did you smoke this morning

[@captc0ck5lap60]

Exactly correct at the battle and war point. If you had a great uncle that died during WW2 and died at the battle of Stalingrad, both these things can be true.

[@JarethS]

The cameo had me rolling, good stuff. For real though... just watching you break down the ui nearly gave me a headache, I don't even want to think about how much of a pain it was sorting out and actually explaining it all to us.

[@slvrshore5300]

you might be ok with featuring fascist dogwhistles, but not all of us are ;)

[@slavengineering8344]

@@slvrshore5300 Since when is hbomberguy a fascist dogwhistle? o.o

[@TheKirkami]

When "Worst MMO Ever" was mostly about decent or even good MMOs, it came back to it's roots

[@matthewanderson1916]

Yeah holy shit, it's kinda crazy that the original might genuinely be the worst Bro right it right the first time 😭😵‍💫

[@Argumemnon]

*its

[@TheKirkami]

@@Argumemnon English is my second language and I'm not a social person

[@Markcus003]

@@Argumemnon thanks my dude, that definitely help.

[@Howardax]

​@@Argumemnon *ist

[@zencoyotegrimgrin]

"if you sift through enough dirt, you will eventually find a cool looking rock."- JSH, loved that line

[@Towton72]

Words to live by!

[@pippepo]

38:36

[@0uttaS1TE]

I love how Hbomberguy has become a kind of angel of wrath against plagiarism. He just...appears now, or is at least referenced when anything relating to plagiarism is touched upon

[@arcanealchemist3190]

yeah this isnt the only cameo he's done in other people's youtube vids and i love how they date a video. you know for certain this came out after his video because of its appearance. its youtube history!

[@rapdactyl]

That video is seriously legendary, I haven't watched movies in months but I watched that masterpiece at least twice (more if sleeping to it counts...)

[@cactuss33ds]

his videos are such insanity. it makes whatever his next video might be absolutely terrifying. you think you're settling in for a 4 hour video essay about Arx Fatalis, and the next thing you know you have an irrepressible hatred for a man you've never met, never cared about, and is about to become the face of internet controversy after being completely unknown for 22 years.

[@f3rny_66]

@@arcanealchemist3190 or you know, you can just check the date under the video lol

[@0uttaS1TE]

@@cactuss33ds His mother must be very proud

[@ciCCapROSTi]

"Sexy angel themed fireworks" sound like a really apt description.

[@sirknightowl2306]

The song in the trailer at 2:22 is Cannon in D Minor (no that's not a misspelling) by Two Steps from Hell, an outfit that mainly produces stock music for trailers and the like. The style is often called "epic music" as a category, so the "far far too epic" comment is really spot on. I suspect they blew a big chunk of their music budget on licensing just that one track. edit: Assuming, of course, that they did actually license it.

[@rosalindcormier4384]

They probably didn’t considering the amount of plagiarism this game has done already

[@cjthecomposer02]

I knew I recognized it!

[@christallh24]

As I listen to TSFH daily, I recognized it immediately. Came to the comment section before replying to see if someone had already done it so I didn't have to.

[@LilyPenguin123]

Listen to em a lot. Came to the comments to remember which song it was haha.

[@RhelrahneTheIdiot]

I recognized it immediately lol, they produce some good fucking audiofood in that regard.

[@mrmistmonster]

Feature Creep isn't the right term for this sort of nightmare. It's more like their whales spent money to max out a system, so they have to create a new system for whales to dump more money into. The currencies have to be new so that the whales can't use their existing resources to max out the new one.

[@blakksheep736]

Indeed. Feature Creep implies that it gradually became like this. This is the intention.

[@thesobolan7480]

wow I actually have no words for this just wow its so sad

[@northstarjakobs]

The idea that there are actually whales for this game horrifies me.

[@spit.or.swaIIow]

The 50 gems not being used for the revive mechanic but is actually for skipping the cooldown blew my mind

[@ShiveringEroticKingBanana]

Yeah the game isn't pay to win. Seems kinda fun might give it a try.

[@AutumnWynds]

​@@ShiveringEroticKingBananawhat video did you watch 😂

[@xbon1]

@@AutumnWyndsthey’re a corporate shill

[@AshernCaelia]

I had to go back and look at the gem count in the sheer hope that maybe either it didn't actually cost gems to click those buttons or that the gems were automatically deducted but nope. "Too impatient to wait a couple of seconds? Spend some premium currency and you can skip the timer!" smh

[@ShiveringEroticKingBanana]

@xbon1 no genius it's called sarcasm. You're watching jsh and you don't understand that?

[@RG32822]

This game really respects it's player's time. Why do so many games waste their players time with things like gameplay and story when you can just let the game play itself? This gives gamers so much more time to accomplish more and play multiple games at once.

[@firstreality3867]

it really gives me the feeling of not playing video games, and i like that

[@xchronox0]

It doesn't even do a good job at being automatic because of all of the menus you have to click through to actually be strong enough to proceed.

[@Nerobyrne]

Wow imagine if you played like 10 of these 😂

[@tipips]

Or just make a game you dont have to afk in to have fun

[@Oesterplayer]

24:39 Are we not talking about how Rocky created the Guild Balboa?

[@brianbarrett2487]

The real chad LoA needed.

[@solidghost4525]

I appreciate the microphone in the mug. I’ve seen it in other videos but just now realizing what’s going on there, I just thought it was a weird microphone. Very nice and thoughtful humor to those who watch all your mug holding videos. I’ve learned that if you want to really look like you know what you’re talking about….hold a mug while you say it. And wear a vest.

[@DirgeTV]

Its the modern look of "Sophistication" (When you cannot be bothered with that Top hat nonsense).

[@NivMizzet13]

The music from the opening steam page is actually 'Cannon in D Minor', by Two Steps from Hell. A company whom make their own music for awesome epicness.

[@kclulu]

THANK YOU, i felt like i was losing my mind trying to remember who made it

[@oneoranota]

I recognized Two steps from Hell instantly. Would not have been able to tell which one, though.

[@FrantisekPracak]

Thank you, more people deserve to know this! Such epic music.

[@Kairos_Akuma]

So I was right in assuming it was from Steps... Shame their amazing stuff get used by these....I dont want to call them Devs..

[@diamond_h0us]

Hey Josh. Love this series and hope you never run out of worst MMOs to cover.

[@Massivecow1337]

As long as there are greedy corporations and devs with ambitions well above their ability, there will never be a shortage.

[@protostar5946]

Lmao he should do The Day Before, surely *that* one will be the worst. *OH WAIT-!*

[@brumby92]

I'm impressed he hasn't. By now there's just Eve online and a handful of others

[@zncon]

I think they're making new ones faster then Josh can make videos about them.

[@Purriah]

Yep. If he made one of these every month he would still not run out. @@zncon

[@tornadoawe]

Finally Josh is catering to the 2nd monitor audience... By requiring you to have an additional monitor to keep track of all the things he said in this video.

[@raynmanshorts9275]

I am more convinced than ever that I played LoA or LoA II when it was on Facebook. My memory of it was that people primarily used it as a chat room to hang out while they were bored.

[@_Banjo_]

I love the reverse image search part of this. All detective....then just throwing it out there in the video

[@shneancy220]

Josh, the music in the trailer is Two Steps From Hell, "Cannon in D Minor" the exact clip appears at 2:15 in the song. TSFH is famous for their epic music appearing in trailers/soundtracks for the big names like many Disney films, Marvel, Interstellar, and many others, they even got played at some big sports event at some point. Looking at the other accounts of copyright infringement I'd say it's a cherry on top for the upcoming lawsuit. Also check them out, their music is simply fantastic, I recommend listening to Black Blade, Molto Piratissiomo, Star Sky, El Dorado, Impossible- and I could go on like that for a while but that should be a good start :D

[@Ignisami]

A TSFH rec isn’t complete without “To Glory” and “Winterspell”, imo.

[@michaelcalvin42]

Pretty bold of them to so blatantly use copyrighted materials that they do not own the rights to (I also doubt that they licensed them). Even if it's a temporary upcoming feature advertisement, it's still illegal as hell, and they're frankly lucky none of the copyright owners know about it. Also welcome back! It's always a good time when a Josh Strife Hayes video drops.

[@MinoriGaming]

The company who churns these games out is Chinese, so going after them is pretty much impossible because China's copyright laws are all sorts of jank.

[@mistandfog5442]

Chinese copyrite just means it's fine so long as it's been copied right.

[@Milktube]

We need a separate internet for the Chinese and one for the rest of the world.

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

@@MinoriGaming Oh idk if tencent is that kind

[@Zorothegallade-rpg]

Look on the bright side, they could have used AI-generated art. (shudder)

[@jasonfrazier6215]

WELP. This was a trip down memory lane. I remember one day, in my youth, just seeing an advertisement for this when it was in it's early days. I was one of the early players, early enough to be a non-paying player that was successfully in the top 100 in it's arbitrary ranking systems, but despite my achievements, I couldn't care for more than two days. Seeing it again...I just remember the comic I was reading more than the game. Ozzy and Millie, by the way.

[@mayuri4184]

I find it funny that you remember the comic you were reading when you first saw League of Angels. 😂

[@KamilDrakari]

Yo, Ozzy and Millie is great! I should reread it again sometime

[@MrRoisu]

I really appreciate the direction Josh is taking in these reviews, especially the 'live presenter' moments, it adds something new and unique to the usual KZbin formula and I'm here for it

[@TG-ge1oh]

These and Josh's escalating insanity in the shorts is going very well with me.

[@stellarlight1387]

The menus in this game is like a horror story where a door just opens to an impossible space

[@landvaettir_actual]

My brain fried within the first 10 minutes but I've sat through the whole ordeal out of sheer respect for your sacrifice, Josh.

[@sasu6094]

I turned around to pet my cat for a few minutes in the middle of you talking about the shops, and was surprised when I turned back around and you were STILL talking about the shops, this is incredible

[@johnmichaelbushman]

Hbomberguy jumpscare was not what I expected in this video. Also, welcome back Josh.

[@slvrshore5300]

just because youre ok with fascism, doesnt mean all of us are ;)

[@ekki1993]

Hbomb appearing in a cameo as the new Nick Fury of the British Cinematic Universe was gold. Good thing the UK isn't real.

[@kerianhalcyon2769]

Just a friendly reminder while looking through all of this - art theft should absolutely be criminal. It's great people tracked this down, and I really hope that the company that made this...app? Interactive video? What even is this kind of game?...receive the consequences they deserve for it.

[@cattrucker8257]

We must be grateful to whoever is making these for letting JoshDryFace revisit his roots. Back where it all began. Truly epochal out of ten.

[@demonsangells]

I have never touched or had any interest in this, or any other, game in the Worse MMO series, yet I've watched every single one of them, often multiple times and love it!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I played like 3 of the games in the series, and was okay with it. Played none of them for any length of time, but I had my fair share of f2p mmos to have a general gist about what to expect and how to judge them, depending on how many thongs they throw at me within the first hour. The more free stuff and redundant systems, the worse.

[@cypherdk85]

Not all of them are bad, I've played quite a few and enjoyed myself. Like Age of Conan, Lord of The Rings Online, The Old Republic and a few more.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@cypherdk85yeah the older being AAA mmos are fine tho they did get ruined when the publishers tried to make it "hip" again to get some money. All the anime ones are terrible.

[@GoDLordBeerus]

@@cypherdk85Agreed Guild wars 1 also really comes to mind

[@totem95]

I played Vindictus regularly between closed beta and the release of season 2. I stopped midway through the S2 story. When Josh reviewed it, it was only a shell of what it once was. "QoL" had removed the need to engage with the overworld, more cash shop and reward & character power creep

[@TiaCosm]

The “pay to skip the timer” simultaneously shocked me but was also completely predictable. I assumed it was pay to continue, until you said “guess what happens if it counts down” and I immediately knew. It’s just too perfect, just like those games that make you pay to open chests faster (Elder Scrolls Blades)

[@Dyanosis]

To be fair, this is one of the only games I've seen that's a "pay to skip the timer" that doesn't reset your progress if you don't. Most other games reset your progress or make you fail the event because it's a "pay to try again/continue".

[@Seth_Is_Here]

I just wanna say thank you for making this series, this series is super funny & really entertaining to watch! You put a lot of work into each video not only that but have to risk your mental health playing unholy bad mmo’s! Thank you so much, I love this content so much! 🧡 it always lifts up my day

[@iamlegion3093]

“The Unleash my Bless” line was such an underrated joke and I definitely had an audible laugh at that 😂

[@minisnakali]

"Ive had four years to learn how to make better youtube videos and you've had four years to learn how to make a better game" I died, my soul has left my body, I got an unreasonable amount of joy from this joke it just hits all the right spots for me

[@drakensong9953]

He had 4 years to add patreon supporters just so he can put them all on 1 screen instead of scrolling them

[@ShadowTasos]

I discovered (ugh) League of Angels through a Facebook banner ad that advertised the game using a picture of Foxfire Ahri (the League of Legends character, and literally just the picture that you saw IN League of Legends of that skin) with some very minor edits like wings. The ad I saw for this one, Pact, was just an edited version of Morgana (another League of Legends character) that made her look golden instead of purple. It's not even plagiarism, I'm pretty sure this "game" is just an amalgamation of art ripped off from various sources by some devs in a basement somewhere in China, modified slightly occasionally, with random "game" systems thrown in there to distract you from the fact that you're paying for literally nothing. Like the gall to rip off one of the most popular online games out there is just insane, shows you how little they care about anything.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

It surely is made for the mobile market. The fact that every single UI element is in a vertical snipped in the middle of the screen shows that they just expanded the "play" area, but not the interactions or expositions.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@HappyBeezerStudios The quality difference in mobile games is staggering. Some are actually good, even the gacha ones, but most of them are League of Angels.

[@HoopleBogart]

Yeah i've absolutely played a version of this at one point or another.

[@alluriusmusic]

@@HappyBeezerStudios From what I know about Pact, although it was published by a company named "Game Hollywood Games", the game wasn't actually developed by the main company behind League of Angels itself... In fact, League of Angels Pact was the only game of LoA that the company published from what I saw on the website of theirs... The only redeemable game I noticed on there was Game of Thrones, well... the P2W nonsense on for the GTArcade Launcher... Edit: GTArcade is based in Hong King, while "Game Hollywood Games" despite its name, is based in Spain... :/ Anyway, the GoTs game that was on the website was the 'Winter is Coming' version Edit 2: Also, if you look at GTArcade's website and look at the list of games they have, you'll painfully notice how it does not list Pact as a result, which means it wasn't one they officially made themselves, since they didn't offer ways to download it from their website, or the dedicated launcher for the computer

[@BraUnY74]

@@Ellebeeby Several works Hayes showcased are from Chinese artists, so this particular company just gives no shit, they will steal from Chinese, from other Asians, from Westerners, heck, if they had access to Space Internet, they'd probably steal from aliens too.

[@SethJV]

"I unleash my bless" Well done Josh, well done.

[@doktorwyvern2883]

not sure if anyone else noticed, but the audio jingle for popups in this game is from City of Heroes, it's the Enhancement Found notification. 25:41 for an example, but it's constant throughout.

[@ku0n-zo5uf]

As someone already said, the song on the steam page trailer is Cannon in D Minor by Two Steps From Hell. I encourage you to listed to it fully and if you like it check out: - Victory - Blackheart - El Dorado - Norwegian Pirate - Hope - Nero - Sky World - Protectors of the Earth - Star Sky I would say that is a list of scentials by Two Steps From Hell/Thomas Bergersen

[@cheezdoodle96]

I don't know what a scential is, but add _His Brightest Star Was You_ and _Strength of a Thousand Men_ to that list and we're talking.

[@Kude1707]

Would also like to add Heart of Courage to this list

[@benjaminwatson543]

The best part of these videos is always the rapid-fire shade throwing you do at the very start.

[@twiderechan]

I think this is my new favorite Worst MMO Ever? episode now. For some reason, I absolutely LOVE whenever you breakdown all of these different currencies and systems!

[@denizkaragullu6239]

Demon lord Herb was what sold it for me

[@jackalo34]

​@@denizkaragullu6239same

[@quentra4304]

Christ that cameo was gold, great work putting out this videos for us to observe in real time the degradation of human sanity

[@zephyr8072]

Hbomb being AntiPlagiarism Man is the superhero arc we should all support.

[@spartan2867]

Great to see he's doing this. I've also seen him in Tomskas vid

[@mouse9831]

lost my shit at it

[@spartan2867]

​@@mouse9831she its my shit till I lose

[@marcelinereid]

I've seen so many Hbomberguy cameos in videos recently and I'm all for it Also congrats on the images you made for this game Tommy Talarico I'm sure his mother is very proud

[@sirderpington7704]

also fun fact. I used to translate for these things. the reason letters get cut off is because the programming there is a character limit. usually its enough for Chinese languages but when it becomes english you have to come up with creative words for it so it doesn't blow the word count. that's where words like top up and stuff like that comes from.

[@Azguella]

Hbomberguy felt a tingle in the wind when you started the foreshadowing explanation

[@jeffreeds4003]

This game had countless discord bots infiltrate a myriad of discord servers, including one for a phantasy star online blue burst private server. Completely insane

[@OccasionalGoof]

Watching you describe the UI, I felt like I was watching some kind of horrific car crash in slow motion. That's what this game's design comes across to me as. If halfway in the video you had stopped and went "Kidding. I made this up, it's satire of how bad video games can be" I would have not been surprised. It's made entirely out of red flags of game design.

[@v.m.9198]

I only know about these games cause a huge banner for it jumpscared my mom and she couldn't get rid of it. She had to call me over cause the "big tiddy angel lady" wouldn't leave her browser window

[@ConnorJaxk]

It's been 4 years... bloody hell... GGs on the success dude!

[@zygardegodslayer4750]

"Foreshadowing is a literary device which-" *Ad starts* One, damn you youtube, I hope my adblock defeats you in that endless race to get priority again soon. And two, damn that was good timing.

[@LunaSolarys]

20:00 im gonna go out on a limb and suggest that all Lore was created via AI considering that would EASILY explain the drastic inconsistencies and relatively drab writing

[@LunarSoul255]

Hey, to be fair, it could also just be badly written and thrown through a machine translation. Or both. Actually? Probably both.

[@CombatWombat1001]

Josh Strife Hayes x hbomberguy was such an unexpected crossover but god damn did it make me smile.

[@MegTheWarpsmith]

I start laughing so hard

[@pepsicola4718]

Me too bud.

[@None.of.Your.business.98]

I don't like the guy, though it was entertaining.

[@bjork_casper]

Just recovering from a cold, hbomberguy had me in a coughing fit combined with laught

[@NotYourNhaama]

I almost died trying to keep my laughter in cos my husband is napping onthe sofa XD

[@blitzmensch_9k774]

Dude, I just started watching and in 0:35 sec I can already see stolen dungeon from World of Warcraft: Legion (Halls of Valor/Trial of Valor), now I have to watch it all

[@guisantos2934]

Doesn't the Bounty Boss artwork at 32:16 look like Syndra from League of Legends? I've come to look at the comments to see it anyone pointed it out but I haven't seen anyone mention it

[@7JMJB11]

I’m almost certain that the bounty boss shown at 33:25 is syndra from league of legends painted over

[@warriorkr]

Yea it is, or some fan art

[@seiliaD]

thank you for the very clean audio clip of you saying "Dailies" for me to add to my soundboard!! for a game about angels it sure does seem like pure EVIL!! laughed out loud at the hbomberguy cameo, very good as always!

[@DespadaPlaysGames]

The Hbomberguy cameo made me so unreasonably hyped. It made me realize that you've gotten super big now, and as a fan, it feels so good! :D

[@eddythefool]

He dropped into the path of exiles stream last month after the plagiarism video was released so he had to be on his best behavior

[@diamondhamster4320]

More like Jumpscare.

[@Sorrelhas]

"you've gotten super big now, and as a fan, it feels so good!" 🤨📸

[@fronthal157]

He's an insane communist

[@luminatron]

pause

[@mmoenjoyer-vd3gf]

Started watching whole playlist recently, quite fun content. I would like to mention MMO i played decade or so ago "Warspear". It used to be amazing game for its time, saw it going on steam recently and figured why not check it out once again. And oh boy from relatively f2p it went all in on p2w over the years quite sad. But still the world was amazing, combat well, i think it was ok? 5 spells at the beginning can expand later, target and rotate spells, there are roles heal/dps/tank for dungeons and raids. Itemization u had standard head to toe equipment. there were 2 factions at the beginning opposing each other now there are 4 i think each faction with unique classes that makes total of 16 i may be wrong haven't checked that too thoroughly. Story well i didn't know much English back then so yeah I'm lacking there too. With all that i think it may qualify for this series, thanks for amazing content sir.

[@synonymdave]

Nice video. I love it when on a KZbinr I like to watch, another KZbinr I like to watch makes a cameo. It’s like: „Hey I know that guy!“

[@LoZander]

I have come to the conclusion that one of the rings of hell is just neverending shops, currencies, upgrade systems and in game purchases. This is truly horrifying

[@ringring8938]

Why such a game exist? To cater a very specific group of players who actually enjoy this sort of games.

[@LoZander]

@@ringring8938 i mean that's fair. If someone likes that kinda stuff, that's cool. People are allowed to like whatever they want, ofc

[@NellahWonders]

HBomberGuy's cameos in recent internet videos... the HBG Cinematic Universe is unfolding before our eyes.

[@Justadonkey]

Ugh

[@fvjisinferno207]

Sherlock Holmes bad

[@ekki1993]

Too bad the UK isn't real. Imagine if british people existed in the real world...

[@foxyfoxington2651]

I love how he puts more thought into these games than their own designers did.

[@artaizen1613]

3:15 me at elementary school doing the listening test "how to write that... discom-" "next, pretentious" "oh no, p r e -" "next, laboratory" " **sobs uncontrollably** "

[@mafiousbj]

So I saw Josh uploaded a new vid yesterday. Waited until today to make myself a fancy dinner and watch it after work and before the weekend. These videos are events in my life now 😂. (Also super happy Josh got to feature H bomber guy in his vid, hopefully a collab is coming and more people can discover this amazing creator)

[@blakksheep736]

2:39 the music he's pointing out here is giving me INTENSE vibes about those point and click detective games where you have to find like a key, a magnifying glass and a birdcage in a very cluttered study or something. Is it just me?

[@khoinguyen5004]

Also, that splash art for the boss in the new feature. That's Syndra, from LoL

[@genevievegreene4684]

You are my background for building legos and have been for years since the neverwinter days. I am now, as a productive, potty trained individual still building legos and watching your videos. Never let this series die. 💚

[@Laternater]

Wholesome

[@glik11]

What you building

[@some-replies]

He's only been making videos for 6 years. Sure do hope you're potty trained. Neverwinter was two years ago

[@PInnHeAd]

I love how more and more youtubers who know eachother create a kinda lore of jokes between them! Have a small feeling of older days of content creation for some reason!

[@DustMan2704]

This pains me, all these asian grinder games have such pretty effects and stylistic graphics but all this talent is wasted on a garbage cashgrab and it happens so freaking often.

[@vietnamgamer9490]

It’s true that the art is pretty good, but it’s a lot lazier than you might think. It’s rather easy to rip and reuse the same designs, and oftentimes they aren’t the ones who made them in the first place…

[@coolness4098]

i know i tried so hard to figure out how the art for the areas was made because the game seems so effortless, it couldn't have been AI because LoA was released in 2013, but it also has a hitbox map so there was at least some effort put into the map. i just don't understand how all that ended up being overshadowed by the rest of the game that sells itself as if it's some popup ad scam

[@Isabelle-mp8rk]

I do love how hbomb is reading the Celluloid Closet, really a throwback to his video

[@khandimahn9687]

From minutes 6 to 12... a list of buttons and functions... a mind numbing amount of buttons and functions... you have my respect compiling and presenting that list to us.

[@ABrassLeaf]

Yo Josh, will you ever do one of these on City of Heroes now that the Homecoming server is licensed by NCSoft? Love the vids man, you've provided me days worth of entertainment, I still think about how amazing your Otherland series was.

[@rusttryhard5639]

33:24 Btw the "bounty boss" upcoming feature art (the last one you showed while talking about these) is pretty similar to syndra's desing in leuage of legends, maybe is a copy not of the splash art but of the LOR version or a colour story but i didnt find the extact art the stole it from (i didnt research a lot though).

[@tarasouthwell6132]

You said the word "shop" so many times it stopped sounding like a word lmao There are so many systems I felt like my brain was melting. You deserve a frickin medal for enduring this man, for real. And the plagiarism is downright obscene. I hope those artists sue the crap out of them

[@2DTrashTMCR]

This setup for monetization and mechanics looks to be based on that commonly in browser-based H-games. The fifty currencies and absurd prices, especially. It just happens to have a nicer mmorpg visage over it. But this is definitely on par with the mechanics and price structure of the H-games you play in browser using a burner email

[@Georgeveen]

Josh saying to look at him from a few years ago and how he was young has the same energy when Ron Swanson shows pictures of him at Mulligan's steakhouse, arriving at the last telling that he was just a kid but looking almost the exact same.

[@aprilsgarden.]

I really wonder if they just hire someone to specifically make the UI and menuing like an actual maze

[@bigsisderpina]

This game is *exactly* why people make fun of mainlander Chinese players in their MMOs. All they want is big numbers, pretty explosions, and no communication needed, all without choice other than to grab that credit card, and the League of Angels games captures exactly that. Having watched the entirety of the Worst MMO Ever series, I forgot the bar could be set even lower 🤣

[@goodmusic4673]

Living in that country you would propably also want a way to kill your last remaining braincell xD

[@chase5298]

nothing quite as based as judging other peoples harmless pass-times

[@bebobo1]

@@chase5298 the harm is happening to the player's braincells and wallet.

[@chase5298]

@@bebobo1 That would happen to these kinds of people either way. Fact remains they aren't hurting anyone.

[@bebobo1]

@@chase5298 they are causing harm to me by bringing the worst videogames in history into existence, which then create advertising that i have to make an effort to ignore.

[@ThomasHermJr]

33:00 I think Dark Realm Boss and Bounty Boss both come from lost ark; DRB especially looks like a promotional material they had for a boss, and bounty looks like an artwork for brelshaza, but it's been a while since I played, so i may be mistaking my characters

[@litera_cj]

Josh: "The music of the trailer is far, far too epic." Me: How dare they use Two Steps from Hell music!!? >:O

[@kiwipotatoe2424]

I'm at a point in my life where a new main series video by JSH gets me more excited than Christmas or Birthdays.... and I'm great with that

[@wcs792]

Hbomb showing up genuinely jumpscared me.

[@adalwolf8328]

This is what the humans from Wall-e would play in their little hoverchairs.

[@shanematthews1985]

You missed the part where the "bounty boss" at 32:16 is LITERALLY syndra from league of legends

[@mr.freebus]

Best series. As a long time mmo fan i love making fun of the garbage they try to trick us with ot finsing hidden gems.

[@Azryu09]

I was hoping Josh would reverse image search the gameplay level art and find something. I have to imagine they'd steal that too

[@Dyanosis]

They did steal it - from their other games.

[@zeross39]

one of the character looked a lot like garren to me@@Dyanosis

[@Lycaon1765]

1:27 this just proves my thoughts that all british people know each other

[@azenitor]

The power of tea and crumpets unifies us all

[@galuhadityaf8686]

Damn my head is dizzy from information overload.. I hope you are keep staying healthty, making this kind of videos for us, Josh.

[@sagenod440]

I remember the poll you put out for whether to put your patron name list rolling credits-style or every single name on the screen at once only getting smaller and smaller. The fact that you’re still doing it is just… it’s magical, really. You’re a magic man

[@xcl0udx]

What I really don’t understand is just HOW these games even make any kind of money. Like, yes I get that there’s probably lots and lots of whales playing but they could just as much spend that money on a slightly more good and playable game. It feels like plain stupidity to spend money on something like this, at least to me… @-@ Like always a great vid! it was really fun to finally catch the premiere.

[@StrunDoNhor]

To _waaayyyy_ oversimplify the complicated psychology (and exploitation) of it: never underestimate how much a game can make by catering to "whales." It's the 80/20 rule, on full display.

[@hypotheticalaxolotl]

To some people, simply being The Best is what they want, even if it's The Best at something nobody else cares about and would judge them harshly if they knew the details. Small pond, big fish. That kind of thing. It's not the only reason, not remotely, but it is one motivation for some people and it's one that sticks out to me.

[@BJGvideos]

​@@StrunDoNhorBut how does it even attract them? There are so many better games to whale for.

[@vinceb8123]

Plain stupidity is the reason for a lot of things in our world 💀

[@dankmemes8254]

A man just spend 50k$ on a softcore of Charlie from hazbin hotel recently

[@mw8246]

I've never been more excited to see a little cameo tastefully placed. Well done.

[@ejsuperstar]

Watching this video at the end of my birthday. I genuinely love this series and im happy to see it continue, and explore its roots

[@sageauditore]

2:22 I was wracking my head thinking where the hell did I hear this song before. It's a Two Steps From Hell song called Cannon in D Minor. I guess it must be royalty free.

[@lifeisraph]

It is hard to express just how much I missed the series :) So glad that it is back! :)