Carbon frames are a petroleum product, so go for that anti-oil KOM on a steel bike at least
@AirwaveMustang3 ай бұрын
Smooth roads are also an oil product.
@larrylem35823 ай бұрын
Petroleum has many uses. Just avoid burning it as a fuel if possible.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
To be clear, I drive a hybrid gas car, and live in the same society that's run on oil as everyone else. That doesn't make anyone a hypocrite. The solution to environmental problems (from oil, bike lanes, and even diet and health) isn't to hope that people will inconvenience themselves to make responsible choices--it's to go big picture and make those options more convenient, cheaper, etc. You wouldn't take your car if public transportation was cheaper and faster, for example. Sierra Club's work here locally (and in their other chapters) has had real impact and we need more of it.
@kevinkeenan96073 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t for oil you wouldn’t have the conveniences that you and and the rest of us have in our daily lives lives and as for electric cars they are worse for the environment and because nobody’s see what is done to make lithium batteries therefore nobody is complaining about electric vehicles.
@lacyclist783 ай бұрын
@@kevinkeenan9607 Good point, and since our supply of oil is finite, it makes sense to cut back on using it where ever possible, otherwise all these "conveniences" will go away. Lithium batteries are obviously not perfect, so why not keep looking for a better choice instead of just reverting back to outdated choices that are no better?
@DanBrim3 ай бұрын
I grew up on the border of Redondo Beach and Torrance, less than two miles as the crow flies to an oil refinery. It used to belong to Mobil, I think it has been sold since. We could see the flame from the gas flare from the playground of my elementary school and you can still hear the emergency drill sirens from my parents’ house. On days with the right wind (especially in the 90s), the air smelled like chemicals. Thank you for the work you are doing with the Sierra Club. While I and my family have not dealt with any direct consequences due to living close to the refinery, others have, and as you cite it disproportionately impacts people with lower incomes. I don’t think people from outside LA know how intertwined it is with the oil industry.
@larryt.atcycleitalia57863 ай бұрын
While I was a child there both the Mobil and Chevron refineries blew up! Didn't escape until 30+ years old, I'm amazed I'm still alive at nearly 70 considering the crap I inhaled/absorbed/etc. during those decades!
@robertwaldren62063 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the messaging here, and in this context I appreciate what the Sierra Club is doing. I also have a real problem with their history of advocating for almost no access to trails for MTB or gravel riders. I wish they would follow the lead of a group like the Surfrider Foundation, which has combined excellent environmental work with highly effective advocacy for responsible access to public lands and natural spaces for a wide variety of users.
@panaliga3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and to Phil for sharing with your audience! Such a great experience to share this with you all 😎
@adamweb3 ай бұрын
I honestly had no idea there were so many oil refineries in the middle of LA... 99% higher cancer rate is sad and insane... reminds me of Corpus Christi, TX.
@michaelmarsicano13153 ай бұрын
Sierra Club does a lot of great work but man, it's really hard to look past their awful stance on nuclear power.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
I hear that. Sort of the way I feel about it is it's inevitable, and someone has to push against it to keep it done right and to keep renewable energy still on the table, which is very much viable and supplies the majority of the grid in the California already. 54% on average, some days 99% when conditions are good. With more work, we might not even need nuclear here
@michaelmarsicano13153 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever Excellent points Phil - appreciate the well thought out response!
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
xo. Thanks for being open minded
@Beesno3 ай бұрын
Great vid. Saw the comments are pretty ...uh... feisty, but wanted to jump in and say thanks. Loved the guy from Sierra club who showed up on an all-steel bike. I've found that the person who shows up on steel is very rarely the weakest rider in a bunch. 🤣 And Factor? If you're listening, there are a bunch of us out here who would absolutely love a weight-weenie steel bike frameset (steel fork included) from you all, if you're up for making one.
@panaliga3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro! Steel is real!
@Pigpen12023 ай бұрын
I really hope we reduce our need for oil. It would be a lot easier if we took the money out of politics. When corporations can give millions they will get what they want and that sucks for the rest of us 😢
@noahthomas773 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil for coming to LB and making it out to be a toxic wasteland so no one will come ride here!! 😝 Our favorite Thursday ride is called the Tour de Sewer (or the 3 rivers loop) depending on who’s leading! 😝 I live 3 miles from the top of signal hill. My favorite spot if I only have an hour to ride, I’ll go do repeats there. Some days it just smells like oil! Maybe we should give it back to the Tongva people, they would know how to take care of it!
@smoothmtb3 ай бұрын
Thank you Phil for making this vid!
@alexgilles97783 ай бұрын
Impressive you were able to get the KOM even with doing complete stops at each stop sign:) funny edits
@lorenzmeier22283 ай бұрын
thanks phil for using your platform for this. It was very interresting, keep up the fight, everyone
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
xo
@oOoACFREEMANoOoАй бұрын
Thanks for make awareness
@PaulAngeloff2 ай бұрын
The guy talking about gas plants rides an argon. 🤔
@roryhartong-redden66123 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! This is great
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
xo
@jodyrawles9993 ай бұрын
Phil, so glad you did this episode. Proud resident of Long Beach since 1998 so really glad you came down to the south bay and road the "Tour de Sewers' as we like to call it. Love the environmental advocacy and promotion of the Sierra Club. Just one complaint: its the LONG BEACH AQUARIUM not the LA Aquarium. Ride safe, -jrawles
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
ah dammit
@Bazn3XB3 ай бұрын
"I did not run that stop sigh" had me LOL
@noahthomas773 ай бұрын
And why not, everyone runs that stop sign going up and down the hill!
@mtbkrdon3 ай бұрын
So wait, the state that has some of the strictest environmental regulations actually has oil drilling in the city? WTF
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
it's bad, and makes you wonder what goes on in other places
@robertwaldren62063 ай бұрын
Much of Southern California has extensive oil drilling and refining, which started 100+ years ago. Look up historic photos of places like Huntington Beach, which used to be a literal forest of drilling/pumping rigs. SoCal is a very heavily industrialized region, built on things like oil, aerospace, transportation, and other highly polluting industries.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
I was in Huntington Beach the next day and noticed a lot of that...same thing with the pumps right next to homes and public beaches.
@robertwaldren62063 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever- Yep. Most of those homes filled in over the years in between the rigs. HB High School even has a drilling rig on their logo, and the team name is the Oilers. That history is a big part of why it’s such a working class town, mixed with multi-million dollar oceanfront homes…next to oil wells.
@gerrysanabria68653 ай бұрын
There’s an oil drilling rig in the Huntington Beach City Hall parking lot.
@edubeezye96243 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is still in effect, but when a buddy of mine bought a house in S.H. he had to sign a health waver that he couldn't sue the city or companies of he or his family got sick from the pollution.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
wow
@JohnTwa3 ай бұрын
Maybe you should talk to Stefan about cutting his methane emissions….
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
hahaha thank you i just did
@Boomeranger3 ай бұрын
That’s my superpower!🤷♂️
@BillDeanCycle2 ай бұрын
@@Boomeranger This Video brought me so much unexpected laughter! Stefan I must admit your toxic contributions are why I burst out with guffaws! You are a great guy and terrific teacher/mentor to less experienced track riders despite being a danger to follow in a pace line due to your possible toxic exhaust! 😂
@Boomeranger2 ай бұрын
@@BillDeanCycle I prefer to think of it a jet power. How are you, mate?
@BillDeanCycleАй бұрын
@@Boomeranger Doin' Good - riding' inside these days
@stevedouglas39752 ай бұрын
The speed you are going up a 6-7% climb is around my speed on the flat...
@bobfoster6873 ай бұрын
Phase out oil drilling? Rubber tires! Plastic helmets! Plastic cleats! Plastic bar tape! Plastic break hoods! The hypocrisy here is amazing!!!
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
dude wants me to ride a bamboo bike wearing burlap and hunting/gathering on my organic farm or I’m a hypocrite for living in society
@cbkenison3 ай бұрын
Dude no one is drilling to make petroleum based goods. Yes we probably need some of that stuff, but it only accounts for 6% of oil consumption. We can obviously phase out a ton of wells and stop future drilling without affecting the ability to produce these things. Get a reality check on the facts before you think we're going back to the stone age
@SteveSchmitt-n4u2 ай бұрын
@@cbkenison - the data I've reviewed indicates it is more like 15-20%, and it's growing as a result of EVs
@ValachKnightАй бұрын
@@worstretirementeverYes, you are a hypocrite. How are you not getting the idiocracy of being offended about being asked to walk the walk?
@ValachKnightАй бұрын
@@cbkenisonAbsolutely, we don't drill for OIL to make OIL BASED products. What stupidity is this?
@srant2 ай бұрын
Ports are always toxic downwind... basically everything adjacent to the port of LB...
@blond3393 ай бұрын
as a kid (70's) it was normal to come home from zuma beach with blobs of oil on your feet
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
sheeeesh
@williamroberts69373 ай бұрын
The LA basin is brimming with oil and lots of it gets to surface naturally (think the La Brea tar pits). There are lots of offshore oil seeps due to natural fissures in the seabed and that's most likely the source of the beach tar
@MorganBrown3 ай бұрын
All the oil seeps off the coast of California are 100% natural
@PaulAngeloff2 ай бұрын
Sheeesh on that Phil
@zf4hp242 ай бұрын
@@williamroberts6937 The Coal Oil Point seep offshore of Santa Barbara is one of the largest in the world and emits over 100 barrels of oil per day, along with 40 metric tons of methane. Platform Holly's operations reduced these amounts, but since production ceased in 2015, the amount of seepage is up.
@nerigarcia71163 ай бұрын
Living in LB I travel those paths/roads often. I pretend the power plant is a castle on the river like in Ireland. Helps me get through the ugliness. 😉 But I love Long Beach.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
Super nice area
@Bazn3XB3 ай бұрын
I work in downtown long beach and I take that route home every day!
@josorzo113 ай бұрын
Let’s buy more oil and pay $10 a gallon 😂😂
@stevenmeyer96743 ай бұрын
We export and import crude oil depending on the profitability. Believe it or not. In some cases it is more economical purchasing foreign oil than it is using ours.
@cbkenison3 ай бұрын
The true cost of gasoline is much more than what we're paying rn
@brucerutkoski3 ай бұрын
It's so bad that even Jethro & the Hillbillies left Beverly Hills & went back to Appalachia . And they made their fortune in OIL !!
@CRITESBIKER2 ай бұрын
Hey i want to see a bike trailer thats a camper like a roof top tent built from an aluminum ladder that has a false bottom and then pops up to climb in.
@alexklotz39803 ай бұрын
So embarrassing for that guy in the blue jersey who wanders through the scene checking his phone. Really glad that's not me.
@colinricketts14153 ай бұрын
Setting an reminder to see how many 'you are woke' comments are here in a weeks time 😶 That looks like a really interesting way of learning about the area you live in, warts and all. I think I may end up spending the next few evenings reading articles on the Sierra Club website
@mogulmayhem3 ай бұрын
I just want to know why the guy in the white helmet doesn't use glasses. EVERY time I leave home without them a bug flies right into my eyeball.
@RaymondOlgado03 ай бұрын
These are the areas where I ride my bike. 😬
@SnaxNoCo3 ай бұрын
Thanks for speaking the truth, Phil!
@JimmyDozer5 күн бұрын
Remember when Phil loved bikes vs….
@brucerutkoski3 ай бұрын
As pollution is certainly a global issue, who is holding China responsible for the 95% of all new coal power construction in 2023?(Global Energy Monitor data)
@pingpongballz59983 ай бұрын
Nobody will.
@cbkenison3 ай бұрын
The US has more cumulative emissions, and that CO2 will be around for a hundred years
@Fehr2703 ай бұрын
I thought there weren’t supposed to be stop signs and traffic lights on segments?
@sergioramirezsergioramirez3 ай бұрын
WORST ENVIRONMENT EVER
@utube79303 ай бұрын
Underated comment
@bobfoster6873 ай бұрын
Let’s shut down power plants while simultaneously buying more electric cars!!!
@angelessierraclub18323 ай бұрын
that's not quite what we're saying...
@pingpongballz59983 ай бұрын
Ew no!
@aryehrosenberg42893 ай бұрын
What's asphalt made out of? What are your sunglasses made out of? Do you use plastic at all?
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
"IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE." so sick of this thoughtless troll comment
@aryehrosenberg42893 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever Nothing is stopping you from living in the woods and not consuming fossil fuels. You could align your actions with your principles. Only in an energy abundant country would someone ever take your perspective. Go tell some family in India not to consume fossil fuels and stay poor so that it your conscience stays in tact.
@2WheelsGood.013 ай бұрын
There's a balance to everything.
@PedalToProgress3 ай бұрын
Why are you hating on the guy in red 💁🏻♂️😅
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
I only hate on people I like
@PedalToProgress3 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever is that what the person you hating on feel? I realize it is just a short video with cut scenes, but it felt more mean than playful to me. Love the videos and love the awareness of these important topics - keep up the good work! 👌🏻
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
Yes I'm sure that Stefan is laughing with us. He saw the clips before I published it
@Boomeranger3 ай бұрын
@@PedalToProgressRed jersey guy here. 👋 I’m good. If Phil ever actually pissed me off, I’d just stop opening his jars for him. 😈
@PedalToProgress3 ай бұрын
@@Boomeranger hahaha glad to hear it!
@buzzman48603 ай бұрын
Its obviousn that they shouldnt be drilling in populated areas and fault lines.
@justliberty40723 ай бұрын
Carbon bikes, asphalt roads, styrofoam and plastic helmets, synthetic clothes, petroleum-based paints, plastic lights, synthetic bike-bags, synthetic seat covers, plastic water bottles, synthetic shoes, plastic sunglasses... and un-scientific aspersions citing "cancerasthma" clusters without accounting for differences in income, diet, and other factors. Way to go Phil.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
next time I'll take all of those dirt roads in long beach, drink from the bladder of a dead cow that I fashioned, and squint instead of wearing sunglasses. Thank you for missing the point and putting me in my place
@jordanvanicek48413 ай бұрын
The irony of it all. Attacking oil while using products derived from oil/petrochemicals (carbon fiber bike frames, plastic helmets, Lycra clothing, plastic water bottles, etc.) So what is the message here? You like oil, but just not where you live? Confused…let me know if you want to come ride in Houston and get an alternate perspective.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
Please see my pinned comment and response there
@jordanvanicek48413 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementeverI agree with you about public transportation in your pinned post. This country is awful in this regard, and Houston is definitely a laggard. Again, if you want to come to Houston to ride with energy professionals and understand what the oil industry is doing to cleanup methane emissions, converting from integrated oil companies (IOC) to integrated energy companies (IEC) through solar, wind, hydrogen, etc. just reach out. Would be happy to show you around.
@alewis58363 ай бұрын
did you watch the video?! There's also an important and intersecting social justice, equity and human health intersection here. Transition away from fossil fuels isn't instantaneous, we live in a society, and these are collective problems. Phil is evidently seeking to shed some like on a range of these issues, and specifically in relation to his community and the outdoor recreation around it. After all, there's no fun bikes, KOMs or outdoor recreation on a dead planet. So there's work to do and a million different ways to start. And leaving the oil industry to take on the clean up, remediation or transition is just foolhardy, we know they aren't actively interested in it and will continue to pursue a die-hard profit model to the last possible moment. Impacts on communities be damned!
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
@@jordanvanicek4841 keep up the good work and someday I’d love a “cleaned up” Houston video. I wish there was more being done here
@enriquejimenez71733 ай бұрын
The oil fills and refineries were their first, prior to house is being built next to the refineries or oil drills
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
The native Americans were also here first. Something tells me you're not on their side
@johnkasza23153 ай бұрын
All the housing on signal hill was built years after the oil wells were in..they knew they had a pump outside their window because they have a view.of the city... always entertaining to listen to grown men whining.. EVERY PERSON THERE DRIVES A CAR I BET and uses electricity..do as i say, not as i do
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
Did...did cancer write this comment?
@johnkasza23153 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever nope, just stating the obvious..give up your car, dont fly any longer or unplug your TV,,then ill listen..i have 3 cars a boat and an RV...the sierra club must hate me! Does invis have any evil oil in it????? You might as well have chevron on your jersey..
@CheapHomeTech3 ай бұрын
Pollution is a serious problem. Cancer rates 99% higher than elsewhere should be a national issue discussed in presidential debates. However, I got queasy seeing your t-shirt and I quit watching when you said "climate is an existential threat". I'd expect this nonsense from Greta. Not you.
@worstretirementever3 ай бұрын
What's wild to me is that I assume you can look around and see an entire society built on setting fire to fossil fuels, look at the exhaust coming from cars and power plants 24/7, none of which is natural, but somehow not think that this could affect the temperature of the planet and have environmental repercussions. I just evacuated by my house in Big Bear due to a wildfire (the size of these wildfires is not natural), and there are over 100 deaths from a hurricane in Asheville, which is nowhere near an ocean last time I checked.
@EstebanDVO3 ай бұрын
Even if you don't believe in climate change, are you saying you are pro pollution? Don't you like hanging out in nature and enjoying outdoors activities? Why would you admit pollution is an issue but immediately say it's not that big of a deal? That's called cognitive dissonance.
@CheapHomeTech3 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever Last I checked our planet has had 2,000 to as much as 10,000 ppm of CO2 for over 99% of its existence over billions of years. Not the 400 to 500 ppm it is at now. Life on this planet developed and flourished with much more CO2 than we have currently. Yet we are told of tipping points at around 550 or 600. Once a tipping point is reached that our planet will become another Venus. They actually believe that and don't look at history. Then there is the idea that there are more wildfires or hurricanes. Any look at past history will show you the wildfires are down by about 99% of what they were just 100 years ago. Hurricanes? The frequency and intensity has not changed for the last 200 years. Sure we have pundits on TV screaming absurdities but we don't have to believe them. If they do capture your attention then you should do some research. The temperature has risen a little bit. Because we are coming out of an ice age. Like a rising tide that happens a couple times a day. Things change and we have to change with them. Like we should not fight against the fact we are not as fast as we once were on a bike.
@CheapHomeTech3 ай бұрын
@@EstebanDVO Please read what I wrote carefully. In particular I said pollution should be a presidential debate point. I also said the climate is warming.
@alewis58363 ай бұрын
@@CheapHomeTech just because it doesn't happen to be an existential threat to YOU doesn't mean that it isn't to others, while also being a significant material threat as well. There is a greater level of empathy and solidarity that needs to be cultivated here. The looming reality of climate catastrophe affects many people in different ways. The social justice aspect noted in the video is an essential component that intersects with these other aspects.