Worst Sonic Show Yet? | Wade (& Knuckles) Series Review

[@RebelliousRobot]

So that’s where the budget went. The licensed music.

[@israeljones6028]

i was thinking the same thing

[@BlackFlash09]

Knuckles is my *favorite* character from the Sonic series. And just like other game characters, he has his share of flanderization. From Jerk Sonic, Obsessed Amy, Coward Tails, or Idiot Knuckles. Anyways, I'm a 90s kid and I wanted to see more of the character. So, in middle school, my parents bought me a subscription to the Archie Knuckles Comics. Of course I didn't know the meaning of the words quality or incest (Julie-Su) yet. Movie Knuckles by far is the best portrayal of the character. He's an echidna warrior, super powerful, and a bit naive. I don't hate the Knuckles show, but it definitely needed more of the title character. And I like the supporting cast of characters. I didn't think much of Wade before this series, but he's grown on me and I hope he adopts Knuckles as his younger brother and keeps those mechanical gauntlets. Wendy is the most endearing character. As for Wanda, unless they fix this character, I want to see less of her. (You owe Chris Thorndyke nothing, Wolfie.) As for Jack, I'd like to see him return with Fang the Hunter. At this point, I'm used to media exclusive characters overshadowing the game characters. I've read the Archie Sonic Comics. 😉 I don't care what anyone says. I *LOVED* Episode 4. It's off the walls crazy. I loved all of the game references and especially the Sonic '06 references in the rock opera. And I'm so happy to find more people who appreciate this episode. Not going to lie, Knuckles definitely should've made a physical appearance at the bowling tournament to support Wade. And we don't have to worry about people freaking out about his appearance. At least two people thought he was a costumed mascot. Overall, I've learned to genuinely love the Knuckles show for the messages it sent its audience. Friendship, loyalty, betrayal, and victory.

[@cybersonic8472]

It wasn't a bad show but it was a bad knuckles show

[@Calmoose415]

Hopefully, if there is a Tails Series in the future, it'll actually be about Tails.

[@Arcany]

they fr made knuckles a side character in HIS OWN SHOW

[@DaveMan1K]

Just like Disney have been doing with all their legacy characters, but people bark and clap like seals for those shit shows. At least Knuckles is still cool in this show and wasn't shit on.

[@bluefirekid]

This seems to be a common occurrence with Sonic adaptions, [non-game] characters that are introduced in said adaption more often than not ending up eclipsing the original game ones in some way plot-wise. Each execution and reception of it varying. (And if more Sonic characters are introduced passed Sonic 3, I imagine it's going to get harder and harder trying to balance the live action humans with them.)

[@mememanorama]

SONIC SHORTS VOLUME 9 HAS COME OUT

[@amarachibigelow8178]

The only show I would be ok with humans interfering would be Shadow because they are in his story and I would like to see what Maria was like before she died.

[@MarioLuigiBros-64-DS]

Yo, Sonic Shorts Volume 9 Is Out.

[@redstreak9430]

All they would have had to do is call the show Wade & Knuckles which would have been more honest but also been a good reference

[@landonhulett2119]

I won't say the Knuckles show is the worst of the Sonic media, but it is a letdown. It's baffling that the trailer, the promos, and the sneak peak clips are all false advertisement. The show should've been called Knuckles & Wade or vice versa (Wade & Knuckles). Episode 3 was definitely the worse with Wade's sister, Wada Whipple being THE worst character of any Sonic media to date, I truly hope she won't make any appearance in Sonic 3. The show also felt a bit rushed as Agents Mason, Willoughby, and the Buyer aren't given much development making them uninteresting characters. Which is honestly a miss because Paramount could've had Willoughby to be an apprentice of Robotnik who seeks revenge against the Sonic characters for what happened to the doctor after Sonic 2. Or Mason and Willoughby could've been the SCU'S (Sonic Cinematic Universe) Scratch and Grounder, Boco and Deco, and/or Orbot and Cubot. There's a lot Paramount could've done with the human antagonists, but they squandered it. I will say I do like some moments with Wade, such as in episode 4, Him willing to have her sister killed (cause she deserves it), and him assisting Knuckles in the final episode. The show's main theme: The Warrior is a catchy song (though Paramount NEEDS to stop using licensed music too much), and of course; the references and easter eggs. The ONE thing Paramount DID right with this show: Is that they release all episodes at once at launch. Imagine if they release each episode weekly. Think of the responses and reactions after episode 3. My overall verdict: 4/10

[@stitchfan08]

I liked the show for what it was plus I think the strike that was going on might be the reason for some of the choices made in the show

[@Max-ws9kh]

I though this show was ok. Not great. Just ok.

[@sapphirezx315]

You had valid criticism

[@SiberianNinja-Jin]

Yup, that sounds about right for you. I didn't agree with some of the things in this review but that's okay. What matters is my thoughts about the show and whether I enjoyed it.

[@wovercomet9412]

I expected like a boxing match or a wrestling match, but it's a bowling match... Oh well.

[@Ronniholt25]

I think you hit the nail on the head with this review.

[@alyssamenjivar8796]

I personally loved the ending to Sonic Prime, but Knuckles was truly a bit of a let down. Focused way too much on Wade, BUT the ending of episode 5 and the beginning of episode 6 made me SOB!! The 1st episode being the only one I really liked.

[@Right_Bumper]

This show was false advertisement Prime was just.......boring and did absolutely nothing unique with it's idea I might say this is worse tho but the bar's not been set very high

[@DaveMan1K]

Knuckles has Prime beat by default, as all time and investment wasn't spat back in our faces. If people are gonna apologise for Sonic X, then they're gonna have to do the same thing here. And at least with Knuckles it's one Sonic character vs several human characters, not one human character against several Sonic characters. They also could've given Knuckles the Picard or Disney+ treatment; shit all over him to elevate the "new and better" (9/10 self-insert) character, but they didn't. Those who claim Knuckles was barely in this show (Kotaku) are all filthy liars. Given the budget Paramount likely gave them, he was in here more than I thought he'd be. Prime wasted a whole year of my life that I'm never getting back. This was harmless fun that could've been a lot worse. Easily better than any of the crap on Disney+.

[@t.dmattocks6119]

Cap.

[@RedTygon]

Is it me or can Knuckles never catch a break? First with Chaotix and now this!

[@smugsneasel]

Clearly this was an inside joke around the" & Knuckles" meme so Knuckles wouldn't get the most attention.~

[@Ironica82]

Wade in Sonic 1 was a good amount of screen time for him. Having him in 2 was more of a, "hey, let's see what Wade is up to" moment. Havent watched the show but Wade is not a character to be a lead.

[@Razer14yt]

#WolfieSquad

[@superjacked1225]

Ima need to watch the show again so I can side with u, Wolfie

[@stevefox1200]

The show seems to think that bowling is a hilarious pseudo-sport and that the concept of having a tournament with coverage is funny. ESPN has been covering bowling since the 80s.

[@myleskrisg]

I can honestly say that this show made one of the biggest mistakes in Sonic History and that’s making the human a/the main character. It’s one of those things that makes me question why the movie universe had to be live action to begin with. Just let cartoons be cartoons. As much as I love the Sonic movies I still have my ups and downs about some of the concepts. I didn’t watch the show, but hearing how disappointing it is and that it’s not even about Knuckles kinda takes me out.

[@DaveMan1K]

Sonic X was about Sonic. Don't see people up in arms about that.

[@myleskrisg]

@@DaveMan1K yeah I’m aware. Just saying that there’s no point of giving a character a show or movie if it’s not about the character. Not just for Sonic, but other franchises in general. Making a side character a main character is usually not a good idea. Although Sonic X wasn’t all about Chris, he was still heavily apart of the show which was an issue to many fans.

[@DaveMan1K]

@@myleskrisg Knuckles likely had budget constraints preventing more of Knuckles himself appearing (was still there more than I thought he'd be). X was entirely animated and ran for 78 episodes; what's the excuse there?

[@myleskrisg]

@@DaveMan1K I know that. I'm not just referring to the budget, but also the writing and character usage. Going back to what Wolfie said earlier in the video, if they wanted to they could've done an animated miniseries series or what they did similar to the prequel comics. If they wanted to make it more about Knuckles they could've done that but because the movie universe is live action of course they're gonna limit his screen time because CGI cost money. That's why the writing ended up being more about Wade and less about Knuckles. I don't mean to confuse you, but that's basically what I wanted to point out. The writing could've been better if they went another direction.

[@amarachibigelow8178]

I am glad that you gave a review of this show.

[@rfswolf4173]

I watched it myself I did not like it at all except for the first episode and maybe Episode 2 but It did not go well I give the knuckle show 👎👎👎👎 What a disappointment of a Knuckle show

[@fernandoisaacaburtoochoa9231]

honestly i think this show was just for clickbait material while we wait for the third movie, where im guessing is where the whole budget went to but yeah this show was disappointing, not bad just disappointing. i think after this Paramount won't make a Spinoff series about the Sonic Movie Universe ever again, man does Sonic TV Shows not have been really good lately besides Sonic X and Sonic Boom. i just hope someone makes a Rewrite video of what the Knuckles show could have been.

[@maxmatthews3443]

It funny. knuckles had so little screen time that when he showed up he looked great

[@loiiysailor1177]

I thought the Knuckles series was okay, still I hope this isn't rise and repeat of Sonic characters getting sideline for someone else otherwise these spin offs aren't worth watching,but with Paramount meger with another studio and with the third movie success , then maybe they'll get more budget for the CGI scene's

[@crcoghill]

Both are not bad. Don't rope Prime into this.

[@prahaladramkumar7668]

Yeah, I didn't liket the show that much either. The first 2 episodes were pretty good and funny. Second one being a little mediocre but there were definitely times where the antagonists were stupid, they made so much unsecure exits, and missed lots of opportunites to deliver blows. Starting episode 3 it felt like "what am I watching". Sonic Prime was actually really good, it was amazing, and Knuckles was very enjoyable in all universes but this knuckles was not so much.

[@demontropolis7742]

You did explain your background on saying why you don’t think the show is funny, but I think you were too harsh overall. Yes, the show was falsely advertising what it was about, but Wade being Knuckles’ main foil should’ve been enough to ground expectations IMO. I thought this show was really endearing and funny, though like you said, it is subjective. Even if Knuckles wasn’t on camera 24/7, the show still carried its weight (I’m also one of those ppl who will get more attached to characters if they are funny moreso than sappy). Thus, Knuckles and Wade had a great dynamic together that made each of them a better person (IMO Wade getting the bigger focus is because he actually needed it more than Knuckles, who already had a big arc in movie 2). I will also counter your argument that Knuckles was static in this show; he did have an arc of his own, even if it was smaller than Wade’s. Knuckles’ arc was the opposite of Sonic in movie 1: it was about loosening up his warrior ways in everyday life (he still taught Wade how to be an echidna warrior, but moreso in spirit and willpower than in strength), and by hanging around Wade in a lower-stakes adventure, he could more easily invest in Earth’s culture and make friends with others. By the end, he’s happy enough on this new planet that he’s ready to call it home and protect those that he cares about, having achieved a purpose beyond the Master Emerald. It may be minor, but IMO this was necessary to give him better motivation in fighting alongside Sonic and Tails going forward.

[@excalibursonic1925]

W comment, dude. Tbh, I still liked the show and had fun anyways regardless of how it turned out, even though I do think it could’ve given Knuckles a bit more screentime than what we got, but it was a short journey that I enjoyed. And your perspective on Knuckles in this series makes me wanna revisit it again to see if my stance on it remains the same or not. This perspective quite challenges the fanbase’s views on this show, so I’m gonna revisit the show again and find more appreciation for it. Thanks for providing that comment btw ^^

[@demontropolis7742]

@@excalibursonic1925 No problem, dude, haha. The Knuckles series struck home for me because it felt like it carried its own weight as it’s by far the funniest outing, but still felt at home with the movieverse style. We finally see Knuckles eat not just grapes but a whole lotta other things, too. And he still has cool action like that candle fight scene. Plus it introduced me to some of the movies that inspired it, like Happy Gilmore and The Big Lebowski. There was a clear love and passion put into this show by people who genuinely care, so every time I see people of the fanbase whose YT thumbnails or tweets say something like “we deserve better” or “this is the WORST Sonic media ever,” that comes off as ignorant, judgmental, biased, or even all of the above.

[@FinicProject]

You know this reminds me 0f 90 like Happy ending ... I think they focus on SM3 because it big deal since Shadow is big star and mine favourite i think Paramount is saving for the best . I hope they dont mess up that movie but .... Keanu that is huge . any way Sorry for Knuckles Show . Yea i a;so was hoping for more his history but ... bit lame . like more Wade show ...

[@reggielacey2235]

i never cared for knuckles so i didnt mind it. i liked it. ep 1 and 3 were the best. also i like wanda. also please dont use the " as a black man" card again

[@Pan-cackes]

This series sucks but it doesn't change what the films are. They're not perfect but they at least gave us a much better look at the characters than Prime which is just ridiculous and cringe. Knuckles is a mighty warrior in the movies while he's just an idiot playing sports in Prime.

[@joshuasilva3728]

I'm going to be honest I did a enjoy the show what it is

[@eddieboston6540]

a show that treated him with respect and not some dumb guy. kunc was a warrior who completes his goal of turning wade into a warrior. kunc also finds a place to belong something he didn't have in the beginning of the show. kunc isn't a gray stu he needs help because he underestimate his foes. wade has a complete arc and becomes kunc best friend. wade is what kunc was treated like in the main series but kunc gets him early game self back. we even get kunc background in a fun musical so the show can have kunc looking great the whole way through. this was a great show for movie kunc

[@chaos_sonic2.0]

Can you please play sonic mania

[@HeyFamily5283]

Well, idk what to tell you, I surprisingly like the show, I didn't even notice that until some mention knuckles weren't in it much, I can understand the limitations of the ken stuff and I think that's where I can forgive it. Wolfie, you going to read this amazing book Lara-su comic, Ken finally has it out.

[@maxmatthews3443]

Listen you guy chose sonic to be live action so saving budget not much of an excuse

[@NKL3085]

lol knuckles is such a shit character, he got upstaged by paul blartt

[@MrGamer07100]

Knuckles name was no doubt used for marketing draw purposes. I don’t wanna believe it was anything malicious per se. Just misleading to get the movie universe/Sonic franchise fan viewers. And they succeeded. The defenders really misunderstand why this series is underwhelming from a mis potential lore growth perspective. No offense to anyone that really likes this to show. The literal expectation is that the show is all about Knuckles, and how they could have expand Knuckles world. We always knew Wade would be heavily involved for a buddy comedy adventure. But what no one expected was the plot being centered all around Wade, and that is the core issue. Knuckles was literally reduced to a sideline small character in his own series, whereas Wade is the literal star of the show. And the whole plot comedy around his character brought nothing new or interesting to this universe. It’s all subject to personal comedy tastes, and how much you care for Wade in the first place despite being such an insignificant character. All this show did was made Wade more relevant than he ever was until now. Your opinions were very fair. Honest, and not all hate. That’s all one can ask for most here.

[@Peasham]

God I love how people only now are complaining about everything bad with the movies through their complaints with the show, I've been complaining about flanderization, bad writing, jokes only being pop culture references and the human focus since day one and I'm guessing the next movie's gonna have all these things but no one's gonna complain cuz Shadow's gonna be voiced by big chungus wholesome Keanu Reeves cuz no one's gonna realize all these criticisms apply to the movies as well.

[@DaveMan1K]

Prime was guilty of all those. But because there's no humans it's an instant classic...

[@Peasham]

@@DaveMan1K Prime doesn't have any pop culture references, does the opposite of flanderization, as you said has no human and I wouldn't say it has bad writing at all. I'd say I'm mystified by the hate for Prime, but Sonic fans hate decent media, so I'm really not.

[@DaveMan1K]

@@Peasham Prime makes Sonic into an idiot, has all variants be nothing but one-note caricatures, drags the story out to fill the allotted episode amount, and renders all time and investment moot by resetting everything, so nothing from that show mattered. The biggest sin of any TV show is rendering itself pointless. Shame to have such a great cast wasted. And with what we know now about the writers ignoring the lore management team despite that show being declared canon, only makes it worse. That's why people hate Prime; it's a complete and utter waste of time.

[@crcoghill]

But the more movies we get the more of Sonic and the cast we get. We literally had multiple fight scenes in Sonic 2 with just Sonic and Knuckles. The humans shared like 3 scenes at best.

[@Peasham]

@@crcoghill There was an entire subplot in Sonic 2 around two humans getting married that was pivotal to the plot, with James Marsden's character being pivotal to Sonic's character development to the point where Sonic abandons the fact that he's proven himself as a competent hero because Marsden told him he shouldn't be one yet. I don't really care about mid fight scenes.