Worth it? The Most Expensive Levi 501 Jeans ($260)

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I forget who asked BUT today we are reviewing the Levi 501XX 1947 LVC jeans! LVC stands for Levi's Vintage Clothing and the name is what it sounds like, Levi's vintage reproductions of their classic fits and clothes! They don't just do jeans BUT these are raw, unsanforized, and selvedge of course, they are NOT the STF model though...however they still are STF so I hope that's not confusing. LVC also does shirts, sweaters, socks(?) you name it. Cool stuff? Yup! But what about the quality? Are they worth it? Are they worthy? Find out!
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[@privat4988]

Man, these are the Cadillac of Levi's Jeans. 🎉

[@TheIronSnail]

HA! They for sure are!

[@ejcandrin]

These are the Cadillac of clothing reviews. You are a very funny person, Mr. Iron Snail.

[@9407south]

Thanks for this. I'm just now getting into this vintage denim thing. I'm 54 and 501's were a staple of life for a teenager in the 80's. **If only I had this information back then!** Gonna subscribe so I can keep up!

[@MarcoMoralesF]

I'm learning a lot about clothing from you. My main language is Spanish so I don't understand everything you say, but I enjoy watching your videos! Saludos desde Perú!

[@TheIronSnail]

Hey thank you! So nice to hear!

[@nathandkreosote9917]

Yo deseo travelir a Peŕu

[@billtodd7693]

Lots of very interesting info here, so thanks! My guess would be that the cost driver was most likely the profit margin they're looking for rather than production cost. I was disappointed that we all have to wait another week for the big announcement. I want to get at the front of the line for orders (please make sure not to forget those of us of the short, stout persuasion).

[@TheIronSnail]

I think a lot of it is margin too at the end of the day sadly. And don’t worry next week I’m announcing it! Not dropping anything yet BUT getting closer and don’t worry, will do!

[@jeffrittenour8202]

very informative video. and yes, it is borderline pretentious how levi's has basically zero info on their website. don't they realize we like to know about what we're buying? as a denim head of almost 15 years, i have nothing against levi's, but at this point i'd rather give my money to the "mom and pop" jean brands. my top 3 favorite fits are rgt stantons, railcar spikes, and tellason sheffield.

[@ryanr6240]

Thanks for your website suggestions. Do selvedge jeans come hemmed? I imagine they come long so you either need to roll them or tailor them. I'm leaning toward the Tellason Elgin

[@jeffrittenour8202]

Elgin is a very nice fit. Yes, they will come with a hem. Selvedge denim jeans generally come long because most people want to cuff them, but there's no rule. I would suggest wearing them cuffed for a few months before you decide to hem them shorter.

[@sholihiniwansetiawan8225]

Bought my first LVC pairs few days ago. 66’ 501 Rigid. Cone Mills. Bartack. Big E. A bit tapered. Since I don’t own a tub, I soak it with cold water for 25-30 mins. Shrinking a bit, but fit good on me. Truly a legendary pair from legendary brand.

[@TheIronSnail]

Ah so cool!

[@virtual_self]

I got a pair and went with 1 size up. Soaked it for 30min and they barely shrinked 😅😢 I don't know what to do now 😅😅

[@l.cressey6806]

@@virtual_selfdid you soak them in hot water? If not, that’s probably why they haven’t shrunk too much. It’s also possible you bought a pair of sanforized or pre-wash jeans.

[@Himothy278]

Great video! you should do a fade update on the 1947 lvc if you still have them . I’m curious to see how they held up compared to standard stock 501’s

[@Thomas-je5rj]

The Warehouse and co 1105 is the best 501 I ever have, just a pajama. So much confort, so much details. The denim is made with Zimbabwe Cotton, like the one Fullcount make - because this cotton has the same specifications as the american cotton in the early 30-40’s. Love this Jean, wear it as much as I can ! Thanks for your content, very good intro haha

[@Thomas-je5rj]

After checking not sure for the Cotton, well sure for Fullcount but not Warehouse. Still a great denim haha

[@bobbydavis5119]

FullCount 1101 feel just like 501's. I have a 501 pre lvc made in 🇺🇸 and a FullCount 1101, you cant tell the difference

[@user-vx1xm9cd8g]

Full count is trash. I bought a pair, and they have huge leg twist in one leg where the selvage seam is over the top of my foot. Super uncomfortable. They say it's part of high quality, but levis has figured out a way to not have leg twist. Full count sucks

[@parson2006]

Uniqlo also uses Kahara Mills for their raw jeans and sells the jeans at roughly 40 USD.

[@gammondragon8080]

Having owned both Uniqlo and LVC raw denim I can safely say that the LVC quality is lightyears ahead. I'm lucky if a pair from Uniqlo last a year of moderate wear without falling apart whereas the LVCs are still going strong today after being purchased in 2012 .They had 2 years of almost daily wear with minimal washes and get pulled out semi-regularly nowadays.

[@chrisp5526]

They look great on you. Nice fit. Unless they’re uncofortrable, I wouldn’t sweat it. Now, you may have wanted longer legs to roll the jeans up, but you can still pull it off with this length. Me personally, I do not roll my cuffs, unless the jeans are too long. At least you have an excuse to buy another pair!

[@jurgenbrandt642]

Never imagined the fabric to become heavier after shrinkage. Didn't mind LVC STF bc of the 'lightweight' fabric. My models will be the 1933's and/or 1937's.

[@TheIronSnail]

Yeah pretty cool! The 30’s fits are awesome

[@qmarkett]

I have a pair of Levi's Raw Selvedge 501s. They're 100% cotton. I also have a pair of 505s I wear a lot that are 100% cotton but pre washed and treated. Not dyed in the same way or build with the same care. You can still walk into the store and find 100% Levi's for ~$60 but they don't compare to the Raw ones.

[@keotte5234]

The editing is fantastic.

[@TheIronSnail]

Ty ty ty!

[@treygreenleaf7878]

Brooo. The editing. So good.

[@TheIronSnail]

Ty ty ty!

[@lickingaborrachero]

You seem happy. I love to watch your videos just to enjoy your happiness.

[@TheIronSnail]

Well hey thank you! That means a ton

[@FrownyMascot]

Sooo much information, I love this

[@TheIronSnail]

ty!

[@daniellebohannon4476]

Fantastic a thorough LVC Repro education & comedy ! Your funny so…. IM IN 🔔

[@313ha]

My favourite KZbin channel of all the times in the history of time including reincarnation of all the universes

[@Rebelbanker666]

Just bought one. Awesome look, fit and feel.

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

I have learned that lesson with my levi's! I always get them one size bigger, because if you wash them, if you wash them regularly! They tend to shrink. My jeans i wash them like every 3 to 4 months depending on the use of them. But that's good to know!

[@TheIronSnail]

Agreed!! One size up is the way!

[@NorroenirMenn]

Recently shrank my 1947 (USA made cone Mills) and I’m upset I didn’t get as much leg twist as you 😂 hopefully with future washes! Also as far as price you have to add in R&D as well when talking about reproducing replicas which brands like buzz ricksons does on basically a molecular level 😅 not saying LVC goes so far but still! Anyways awesome videos man love seeing you more often keep it up 👏🏼

[@TheIronSnail]

Thank you so much! And yeah Buzz Rickson goes nuts!

[@CarterHewins]

I could see you getting popular! I like the editing, the name, etc... doing good!

[@TheIronSnail]

Well hey THANKS!

[@snapcult464]

They might be using the LVC line to maintain trademarks on the models. Similar to how they still manufacture 10% of their red tabs blank, to keep the trademark on the red tab, and not just a brand name logo.

[@LucaPS3]

Great review! I always wear W34 in standard 511’s, or any other brand. Will I be fine with W34 in these? Thanks!

[@kthughey]

do you size your regular, non-LVC 501 STF the same way: additional 2" in the waist and 2" in the inseam?

[@JoeyDecay]

Thank Weston from rose anvil for me subscribing. And do fly out to Utah. That would be awesome

[@CameronO]

These seem to drop Fridays post work. Beer in hand. Solid content as always!

[@TheIronSnail]

Looks like we have a similar upload schedule! And ty!!

[@yifanzheng1999]

hey good to see you here

[@domjeanmbasquiat1529]

@@TheIronSnail its kia-hara ( i believe)

[@kobeldc3760]

It’s been years since I wore Levi’s and these are definitely a good look

[@angelacunasantaella4684]

Grácias. Me visto de blue jeans desde 1951...el 501 es mi preferido,los uso mucho los lavo poco, y con agua fría...duran más y su precio no sube mucho aunque venden más...Levi's es mi preferido para cualquier ocasión. Es económico llevar puesto un blue jeans

[@denindenim]

LVC pricing can seem really out of hand but it's a wild west because it's all ready been made. They aren't making anything in US or with Cone Mills denim anymore.

[@TheIronSnail]

Yup 100% agree!

[@nicorzr6346]

Michael, what was the colour code of this garment ? Could you please share it ? And thank you for your cool videos, I really love them and can't wait for the new releases !

[@virtual_self]

Portugal? Amazing work!!!

[@Woozer73]

In the UK 2008 LVC 1947s were about £120-140. In 2010 they went up to £220 ish. The reason I was told of the increase was the cost of cotton had doubled, if not more. I'm guessing Levis just never readjusted the price to reflect the cost of cotton.

[@richardcartwright5019]

man those were the day's when buying a pair of LVC meant you didn't have to sell a liver or remortgage your house. Sadly they will never go back to the £120 mark. I do remember before covid in 2019 they had a big LVC sale. Not seen that since 😢

[@JensPeder27]

Good video 👍 , but does anyone know if a 33 leg on a pair of 501 new ones are a collector item as it's a miss cut because they should be 32W32L

[@stephan384]

Last time I checked, Sugar Cane 1947 were 455.00 U$D..!!! Might as well go for the legendary Iron Heart!

[@j_gate]

6.15 made me a fan! 😂 ❤️

[@couchbanter]

They make these in a black selvedge as well. Will those also shrink?

[@darkdeepred6577]

The ~$290 1947 STF on the Levi's site are actually made in Japan

[@samuelholly3116]

36 does in fact exist i have many lvc 501's my favorites are probably the 1955 as they have the highest rise (and then have the legs tapered by a levi's taylor)

[@TheIronSnail]

Ah! I’m mistaken then!

[@JonathanGrandt]

My favorite Levi’s 501’s is the whole world were really old and very amazing. They had an incredible slim fit, super dark, just amazing. I was at a house party and some kid bumped a big red candle over and the wax went all the F-K over my jeans. Don’t wear your favorite vintage jeans around chilllllldreennnnnnnnnnnnnn

[@TheIronSnail]

Oooooooooof!

[@wilsjane]

The wax marks would make them look more authentic, Back in the days when they were worn, most Levi's would have had candle wax on them, along with marks caused by embers from lighting the wood stove and ash marks from using them to stub cigarettes out. These days, people wear their Levi's for going out. Back then people changed into smarter pants and some trendy bars had a no jeans dress code. Here in the UK, no one would have worn jeans going out for a meal or to a nightclub. Wearing jeans for fashion was first associated with the USA, followed by France.

[@sul_6448]

They brought back the big e on the tag that’s a pretty cool detail

[@sul_6448]

Also you should read ametora it has a decent chunk of the history of japanese denim

[@TheIronSnail]

A detail i forgot to mention! And deal!

[@blueband8114]

TCB do a early Levis copy, can get them on some sites for about $150.

[@TheIronSnail]

TCB is one of the best repo brands!

[@michaelfierman3256]

I do wish I had believed them when they told me on that camp sleepaway that even the farthest part of that metal grill part would be very hot. It was.

[@TheIronSnail]

“How can that be hot it’s so far away”

[@rubberlover666]

Having seen the movie, if all you got from sleepaway camp was a grill burn, consider yourself lucky.

[@christianc3422]

Dude I just watched the milk denim. I’m digging the content lol

[@TheIronSnail]

Hey thanks!

[@christianbarros1580]

After watching this vid i don't feel so weird anymore. Thanks.

[@jamescooper7957]

Take a looksie at Mr Freedom clothing. They have a bunch of cool, vintage, naval themed designed jeans/pants as well as being assembled in the good ole US of A.

[@TheIronSnail]

I LOVE Mister Freedom! I really want one of their leather jackets but they come in so short

[@ussrsurvivorreviews4549]

Great video. I kinda surprised there is still hidden rivets. I was sure, and told, that during ww2 they stooped using them to save metal. Speaking of price, i have LVC Studio Taper, made in japan, they has 284$ retail. And it still fraction of a price for some designer denim, or hi-end luxury brands. I have G-Star raw with retail of 430$ made in India of all places and it makes almost no sesnes, cuz "true luxurious Italian jeans" can be found at 500$ or less. So price is all over the place. They also, afaik, mark up at least 50% up from "real retail price". Aka it still profitable with 50% off, so they can sell it to other stores, and stores can sell them even with discount keeping the profit. Holy damn, my English is worse than usual today.

[@TheIronSnail]

The English was SPOT ON! Rivets actually came back on this pair! They were slightly after the war

[@wilsjane]

@@TheIronSnail While rivets were dropped altogether at some points during WW2, the hidden rivets were introduced a few years later following some bars and restaurants banning people from wearing riveted jeans because they scratched the chairs. A few years later, a new bartack was introduced.

[@sf2explus184]

i find in the LVC 1966 model you can go for your regular levis 501 or lee jeans waist size but for the 1947 u only need to size up one. sizing 2 up will always mess with the fit. the length u must have atleast 3 inches extra.

[@virtual_self]

I'm a 30/30 and got a 31/32 but after soaking them for 30m in cold water I got almost no shrinkage 😅😢😢 I'm nervous lol spent a lot of money and now I have some jeans that are way too big in the silhouette, the waist not that much though.

[@sf2explus184]

do a hot soak your mistake was doing the first soak with cold water. u use cold water to minimise shrinkage. do a second soak with hot water and hang dry in the heat@@virtual_self

[@virtual_self]

@@sf2explus184 will do that thanks

[@virtual_self]

@@sf2explus184 already did and got the same results. Also did a 30° wash in the machine and it still isn't good...this is the 1st and last time I buy something to shrink to fit lol complete nonsense tbh. Had a 30" and dismissed it because of the so called shrinkage. smh.

[@sebwrafter]

Love your vids man! Just got the 1954 501's Rinse in my normal size (31),. Definitely a bit tight in the waist and will need to size up. Do you have any experience with LVC's rinse models?

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh sweet! I do not! Maybe one day though

[@johnjuarez8005]

Did the 1954 Levi's have four buttons before the top one??

[@b.e.2382]

Great content Michael! Are you gonna do an update video on your Freenote Cloth RJ-2 jacket?

[@TheIronSnail]

:/ actually sold it! The bald patches on it were really getting to me

[@b.e.2382]

Bummer! I’ve been wanting that jacket but That patchy thing has me on the fence.

[@TheIronSnail]

I actually spoke to another guy that has one and he LOVES his AND he has no patching on it so I think mine really was a fluke

[@b.e.2382]

I’ve run into my fair share of lemon products, not fun. It still sounds like a great coat though. I’ll probably pick one up at some point. Thanks for the response man!

[@_The_Worst_]

Ok, makes sense...🤘🏼💯✔️

[@shirayasha]

Cone Mills Loomchatter = Drop it like it's hot. I can't unhear or unsee that. Love all your videos. The mod at malefashion is probably seething at your success.

[@TheIronSnail]

It’s all we want! And ty!

[@virtual_self]

My jeans were made in Japan and I got the leg twist too 🤓 now I just need to soak them again for 30m, because the 1st time they barely shrinked 😅 Shall I soak them in cold water again? 🤓

[@mikesilva5085]

You can size down on 1955 LVC 501’s as they have a boxy loose fit around the seat and thighs. For 1947’s you really should size up 2 inches as the thighs are so fitted.

[@TheIronSnail]

Agreed!

[@seyersadat1799]

Are you thinking someone should size up 2 inches for the shrink to fit raw 1947s or size up 2 inches for any other non raw wash which would mean someone should then size up 4 inches for the raw shrink to fit 1955s.

[@rokkstar64]

I used to work at a Levi's and we always got random returns from the online store. The heart break when a guy dropped these off and i could not fit them.

[@TheIronSnail]

Now that’s a modern day tragedy

[@Tomleey]

good video, but do this a shrink to fit, should i go 2 size up than my normal size???? thanks

[@TheIronSnail]

Bahahaha yes!

[@stewartwallace5741]

Please a link to the ones you’re wearing

[@rileyelliott8063]

Wish they offered modern cut and made levis with the quality of these (leather patch, selvedge etc).

[@TheIronSnail]

Yes I totally agree!

[@nathanwenz921]

levis made and crafted jeans are nice, they have selvedge and leather patch and some have even have big E👍

[@davidmay5082]

Like your channel man, I'll stick around. Hey I'm whipping up a few sample pairs of jeans. Into it?

[@TheIronSnail]

Yes!

[@william07122]

the BEST LVC 501 was back in the time when they were made in Japan, those were 100% original retro by using the machines from 1950s. Nowadays 501s are made in Turkey, not as good as the Japanese made. But, still something worthy to own.

[@TheIronSnail]

Still amazing jeans! Hearing about all the different iterations and locations is cool though

[@william07122]

@@TheIronSnail no doubt, I love my 1954 501. If you really want to feel the original 1950s American denim fabric, try Momotaro. That denim material is no joke.

[@TheIronSnail]

I love Momotaro! Haven’t had a chance to get any of their denim yet but I totally will soon

[@william07122]

@@TheIronSnail bro, you will notice the difference! Their material is too unique

[@TheIronSnail]

Let me grab something from them then!

[@uknowminho11]

Where can I get the cape cod sweater? Looks so nice

[@TheIronSnail]

I believe I got mine at a store called “Soft as a Grape”!

[@shaf3006]

Waist 29, I have one 1944 reproduction of the same size produce in 2002 and my waist now is 31/32

[@jcolt84]

I had no idea that leg twist was from the process you were stating in the video, and always thought that it was from poor quality Manufacturing.

[@latetodagame1892]

The missing bottons probably had to do with them needing the brass for bullets!

[@jakeround6702]

I bought the 1954 501s a few months ago and went two sizes up to a 30 and they’re still tight on the waist so got some new ones (different wash) in a 32 fingers crossed they’re right, or maybe I’ve just gotten thicker

[@TheIronSnail]

Hahaha no no it’s the jeans! They are tight for sure

[@xjunkxyrdxdog89]

I just got a pair of samurai denim's "musashibo benkei" jeans, and they're heavily inspired by the wwii era levis including the painted on arcuates. I do wish they had they waist cinch though... I feel like it would help hold up these 25oz monsters.

[@TheIronSnail]

25oz holy…let check these things out

[@xjunkxyrdxdog89]

@@TheIronSnail here's some info on them. www.okayamadenim.com/blogs/news/the-samurai-s3000vx25oz-mb-musashibo-benkei-25oz-selvedge-jeans

[@dudewuttheheck]

What is sad is that these are not actually the most accurate reproduction of a Levi's 1947 501. Unfortunately for Levi's, there are Japanese brands that do actually make more accurate reproductions of older Levis with Conners Sewing Factory being the first that comes to mind.

[@TheIronSnail]

I'll have to check them out!

[@dudewuttheheck]

@@TheIronSnail I'd also suggest Warehouse for that category. CSF is hard to get, but Warehouse is much more readily available.

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh I actually love warehouse!

[@dudewuttheheck]

@@TheIronSnail ok I figured you would be aware of them. CSF/One Piece of Rock is more obscure. Freewheelers is another one that does some solid Levi's repros, but CSF is the most accurate down to using only period correct sewing machines. I have a LVC triple pleat that I love, but sadly their accuracy is not actually very good despite them being Levi's

[@hugosoberanes8309]

What are you planning to do with the jeans since they don’t fit?

[@TheIronSnail]

Burn them! Jk I was planning on doing a video where I go over allll my denim and then i was gonna sell or give these away

[@GabobStrulli]

I bought these Jeans. I like the denim of these. But I like the fit of the regular 501s more

[@TheIronSnail]

Yup that makes sense to me

[@GabobStrulli]

@@TheIronSnail but with these being my first selvedge denim piece, they opened a whole new world.

[@jdupuis4829]

for the price Bravestar are hard to beat!

[@TheIronSnail]

They are definitely a steal!

[@jizzio82]

I second this. I’m currently wearing an amazing pair of White Oak Cone Demin jeans by Bravestar that were about $80. Quality on par with the Naked and Famous pairs I own. Also, Uniqlo makes a great affordable selvedge jean

[@seymourbutts2010]

OH WOW I LIKE THAT FACT

[@the3oclock]

“Hi I’m Michael, and I have a Theo-ry (and Harris)....”

[@TheIronSnail]

HI ITS MICHAEL AND I HAVE A THEO AND HARRIS!

[@wyattserviss992]

I bought some 1947 501s and sadly they’re too small after shrinking and I’m heart broken

[@MrAnymeansnecessary]

Leg twist is called skew

[@timotheusn.h.nakashona1001]

What are this 501s made of to fetch that kind of money.

[@markb1935]

I bought three Levi Jeans today, one of the them are made in Egypt, the other made in Vietnam, and the last one made in Pakistan 😆

[@TheIronSnail]

Haha geez!

[@virtual_self]

Can anyone help, please? Soaked them 30m in cold water and they didn't shrinked. Soaked them again in warm water and got the same results. Washed them in 30° and Nothing again... I'm now stuck with a size 31" and need a 30" 😔 =((((((

[@ronnie2467]

Do a review on the rick owens selvedge denim

[@TheIronSnail]

Okay!

[@hugosoberanes8309]

Very nice

[@ChiefSnoop]

I’m sure someone told you but the fire that plagued San Fran was in 1906 4 years after Levi Strauss died

[@sneaky.vampire]

Do you think the painted archs could have been an inspiration for the brand Evisu? Do you plan to get the other Levi repos? That Sugar Cane denim peaked my interest, maybe I'm just bias towards because that Type 2 denim jacket that you persuaded me to get is the one of the bet jackets I own but I digress. Also, I think the next video with another 501 is, for you to marinate in a river for a day to see the shrinkage. lol

[@TheIronSnail]

Hahahaha out at that last sentence And interesting with Evisu! I could 200% see that Also i do plan on getting more repos! The Sugar Cane Type II is an all star of a jacket so I’m excited to see what else they and other repro brands have!

[@sneaky.vampire]

@@TheIronSnail That $200 price point for the Sugar Cane is very approachable for a repo imo.

[@TheIronSnail]

@@sneaky.vampire agreed!

[@MaurizioBunkus]

3. Details chapter title screen had me cackling

[@TheIronSnail]

My only goal!

[@ChobyMusic]

why do you think one should get their levis a size bigger? will they actually shrink that much in the water?

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh yes! I’d say around 10%

[@ValFinale]

But they then will stretch back

[@saulrabiela4862]

Man do you have to come to Mexico

[@dannyluong8881]

Not the toe curl in the beginning lmao

[@TheIronSnail]

I think i started this one with too much sauce

[@EMCUEAY]

Really good video. GG

[@TheIronSnail]

Ayyy GG!

[@emkim2685]

good hair cut this time👍🏻

[@TheIronSnail]

Ayyyy!!!

[@Ian-bq7gp]

Id get portuese cotton its good quality

[@marcp.1752]

My oldest 501 (black) is from 1993 - and guess what? The fabric is still spot on, albeit serveral times of courses being repainted, recolored with black color, because you do know...the sun, uv and the color is fading...over time. But the quality back then was there, still. Not like the 70-80s...but still great. Nowadays ?!?! A 501? Nevermore that long lasting, ever. Fabrics are thin, and easily being ripped apart after some time...because it's very thin, compared to decades ago. Scheduled obsolescence, it is...sad, but true.

[@ASLUHLUHCE]

Just ordered a used pair for £29 ($36)

[@thelongman6002]

You wanna hear a funny thing? From R&D to manufacturing and sewing everything in LVC is done in Turkey, but as far as I know and see there is not a single Levi's store that sells LVC in Turkey, Not even the official website... I live in Turkey and only time I have found a LVC chino pants was by coincidence. I gotta look into this, maybe mail Levi's directly.

[@philromeo9481]

Unbranded 21oz can’t go wrong with them only 126$

[@TheIronSnail]

Agreed 200%! Also side note...Chance!

[@rubberlover666]

Meh. If you ask me, the price is to justify LVC's marketing budget. Kaihara also supplies Uniqlo's selvedge denim and they are Japan's largest denim manufacturer. Cone Denim IS still around. The White Oak plant closed but the Cone Denim company (and looms) moved like a town or two away in NC and have been concentrating on making their own denim. If these were USA made and produced in smaller quantities, mayyybeeee they could justify $260? But, like you said, the selvedge market is so wide open right now with boutique manufacturers who will make you much better jeans for a much lower cost, I don't know who the market is for these? I actually have a pair of their White Oak jeans that I found in a thrift store a few years back and were no great shakes so I turned them into jorts. The ultimate insult!

[@TheIronSnail]

A ruthless jort conversion! And yeah I agree on that 100% the more I learn and read it seems like Kaihara can just handle the volume. Plus yes! I deleted it for time but Vidalia mills is right around the corner! I was thinking they used the transition as a cost saver?

[@rubberlover666]

@@TheIronSnail It makes total sense that the largest denim brand in the west would source their denim from Japan's largest plant, but to act like this is somehow special when you can buy the same denim at Uniqlo for $60 is nuts! I forgot that Bravestar actually uses Cone Mills denim in most of their jeans. And they do all their manufacturing in America too. AND their jeans are $99?! I know they don't have the overhead Levis does but, $260? For real?

[@TheIronSnail]

So true!! Bravestar also has so much cone mills it blows my mind, they still are doing runs with it! + their prices are the most competitive I’ve ever seen! Always blows my mind they can sell them at $99, makes me wonder what markups are with other brands

[@rubberlover666]

@@TheIronSnail Also, I'm sorry for shitting all over your LVC's. They are nice jeans but as very, very cheap person - the markup makes my blood boil!

[@brooksholley7356]

i got a pair of the made in usa versions from eBay for 130. i love eBay.

[@TheIronSnail]

A steal!

[@adamlevoir6939]

I was very disappointed with my regular Levi 501's They are alot more expensive over here in the UK and can't really compete with Nudie everlane etc. Just priced themselves out of the UK market

[@TheIronSnail]

Yeah I actually heard regularly priced Levi’s in the UK are crazy expensive! It’s insane because I wouldn’t spent more than the $50 they charge now for a regular 501 STF but for some reason the UK is super super high

[@johand3004]

Are they the same quality though? In Europe the jeans are called premium and the tag is sewed on nicely.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

Don't pay it. Get original cowboy denim from wrangler cheaper and harder wearing

[@xiaojingchang9475]

How tall are you?

[@tomwaller2111]

Which colour model are these?

[@TheIronSnail]

Rigid!

[@DoubleUs6]

Wait they don’t make them in a 36?!

[@wadbanna2219]

very beautiful

[@TheIronSnail]

Ty!!