COD Vanguard - Changing History to fit a narrative?

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@WorthABuyreviews
@WorthABuyreviews 2 жыл бұрын
This video was originally scheduled to release on the 9th of November just before Armistice day, but due to a high work load and breaking my arm I've had to release it later so forgive me for saying Armistice day is next week as it was at the time of recording. I also mention Activision as the developer when clearly they are the publishers, I would correct this if it wasn't for my broken arm but I'm just going to have to leave it. The whole point of the video is to highlight how our history is being hijacked to suit a particular narrative and in my opinion all it does is sow division. I personally agree totally with Morgan Freemans comments at the beginning of the video.
@Archangelusbe
@Archangelusbe 2 жыл бұрын
Small correction: Armistice day is celebrated on 11 November to mark the end of WW1 (11/11/1918), not WW2.
@Gruntvc
@Gruntvc 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know WW2 was won by a small squad of Time traveling millennials that were pretty much a pc version of the A-Team. All those history classes, texts, movies, documentaries, etc were wrong!? Such a complete lack of respect for the setting. A shameful display...
@zacherynuk842
@zacherynuk842 2 жыл бұрын
You're good pal and all is forgiven hope yer mam and arm are ok too
@pasullica
@pasullica 2 жыл бұрын
YEah, the movie Glory was clear example how to portray black heroes without being WOKE. For the past 6-7 years the movie and AAA games industries has fallen so low I can't even describe it.
@bigwoodbear4192
@bigwoodbear4192 2 жыл бұрын
@Frenchmans fury its because its very subtle programming to change history.
@guitaroso
@guitaroso 2 жыл бұрын
This is why Band of Brothers is so appreciated by the vets - the creators didn't change a thing and checked in with each character in real life...they told it exactly how it happened, and it's still the best WW2 show to date
@Ben_Mayall
@Ben_Mayall 2 жыл бұрын
Band of Brothers and The Pacific will always be my favourite mini series’ about WW2. They virtually went down to the tee with everything. Nothing was altered just to fit the current woke agenda.
@chrismoeller4517
@chrismoeller4517 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a gem for sure, though I relatively recently learned they dramatized at least one thing: Blithe. He was portrayed as a coward, in the Carentan episode; the fella who was blind, but got better after speaking with Winters. The episode ends with him taking point on a patrol, getting shot in the neck, and later lying on a hospital bed. The end credits state that he died in the successive years due to that wound, but he didn’t. He actually re-upped and was dropped into Korea. Winters himself cleared the record in his interviews with the senator. Great series, but they didn’t do right by everyone.
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 2 жыл бұрын
The war was horrible on Eastern Front - fink massacre, just watch movies like Come and See(Soviet/Belarus movie) or Stalingrad(German movie)
@diskopartizan0850
@diskopartizan0850 2 жыл бұрын
Band of Brothers not a perfect representation of what happened. It contains errors and embellishments and should not be seen as a source for factual information. Yes it is 'based on fact' and is one of the greatest TV shows ever made but no historian is citing it in their books or articles.
@diskopartizan0850
@diskopartizan0850 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismoeller4517 yes the show's treatment of Blithe was poor. Liebgott wasn't Jewish. Lieutenant Dike was awarded two Bronze Stars for actions during the Second World War, he was wounded in the shoulder during the attack on Foy forcing him to stop, he later served in the Korean War. I love BoB but knowing the true story makes me question the makers of the show.
@sensur1
@sensur1 2 жыл бұрын
Mac, you're reminding me of the Battlefield 5 campaign where a little girl singlehandedly did Operation Gunnerside in Norway. As a Norwegian i was deeply offended that they didnt bother to portray it accurately and they literalle threw their actions and efforts right in the bin in the favour of scoring some woke feminist points. The brave commandoes that actually did Operation Gunnerside were: Joachim Rønneberg Knut Haukelid Fredrik Kayser Kasper Idland Hans Storhaug Birger Strømsheim Leif Tronstad All of them heroes.
@stupidrainbo
@stupidrainbo 2 жыл бұрын
That's terrible... this shit is everywhere nowadays.
@ghadabad
@ghadabad 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this! I posted above as I couldn't remember the story. It's all so strange! Why? What is achieved by this bizzare rewrite?
@KingNothing100
@KingNothing100 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was disgusting a 16 year old girl, body slamming Wehrmacht troops with ease was a bit too much.
@ghadabad
@ghadabad 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingNothing100 but like why?! What's to be gained from this?
@TheCurtainLift
@TheCurtainLift 2 жыл бұрын
Much respect to Norway, I'm from Canada and we always show respect to your countries history over here.
@DarkLife3074
@DarkLife3074 2 жыл бұрын
Their "fictional history" is far worse and less interesting than the actual history of these guys in WW2. What a waste of great stories. The families of the soldiers "portrayed" in this game should sue for defamation of character.
@jaydenlee9431
@jaydenlee9431 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my great grandfather was in Tobruk. He'd roll over in his grave over this honestly.
@macblackadder93
@macblackadder93 2 жыл бұрын
I know Jonas Sibini's family sued them once for potraying him as an utter madman.
@choochootrain2145
@choochootrain2145 2 жыл бұрын
Ok it's disrespectful but literally no one's name is being slandered. You're a bootlicking statist fascist if you genuinely believe people should be financially extorted by the courts over this... It's a fucking vidéo game story, bro. Relax
@DarkLife3074
@DarkLife3074 2 жыл бұрын
@@choochootrain2145 I can tell either you didn't watch the video or you didn't listen to it. Can also tell none of your family members have served if you're ok with the way the real people are portrayed in this game. Also the fact that we can sue for defamation against these large corps is because we aren't a fascist state, if we were we couldn't do shit. I'd say you're closer to a fascist than I, considering you don't want to hold anyone accountable for misrepresentation of the heroes who fought to protect this great country.
@choochootrain2145
@choochootrain2145 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkLife3074 WHAT? IM A FASCIST BECAUSE I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE GOVERNMENT TO SUE SOMEONE FOR MAKING AN ALTERNATE HISTORY STORY ??? WHAT??!? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS?
@AllajchaSibir
@AllajchaSibir 2 жыл бұрын
For a group of people going on and on about cultural appropriation they sure do take a lot of liberty with other people's achievements. The sad thing really is that it doesn't really surprise anyone anymore. It's become the norm.
@jdleon5712
@jdleon5712 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Medal of Honor Frontline used actual war footage for their loading screens and actually provided the historical context of what you were about to do and actually happened.
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 2 жыл бұрын
music in that game was amazing. I loved Arnhem Knights track
@Leo-pz5ge
@Leo-pz5ge 2 жыл бұрын
Medal of Honor: European Assault also has a very good opening theme.
@emperorkeemy1458
@emperorkeemy1458 2 жыл бұрын
Cod world at war had an actual execution in the first cutscene when they had balls
@richarddunn7017
@richarddunn7017 2 жыл бұрын
Got chills when you read the paratroopers story. Why the hell couldn't that be in the game? You gotta run messages behind enemy lines. Sounds f'ing intense!
@bulletkingaming2808
@bulletkingaming2808 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if only they atleast made real historical events close to the truth, it would have been a good fictional WW2 story.
@S....
@S.... 2 жыл бұрын
When the real story was better than ficiton, why invent fiction?
@thevlaka
@thevlaka 2 жыл бұрын
Because wahmen
@FitzChivalryFarseer2
@FitzChivalryFarseer2 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough power fantasy and shooting even though it's way more action packed and dangerous as fuck
@barrymccaulkiner4232
@barrymccaulkiner4232 2 жыл бұрын
and at the end of the mission it would say, "What follows is frontline combat. You are not expected to survive." and then charge across the bridge after being wounded 4 times only to be blown up by the Germans. That would have been a hell of a mission.
@Karter_Blackpaw
@Karter_Blackpaw 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother is Japanese and was a toddler in Japan when the nukes fell on her country. I have had 2 family members in the Japanese Navy die during WW2 and my great grandfather on my dad's side fought for the US Navy (thankfully survived). We are in the final years of WW2 veterans, we need to make damn sure to get their stories down before they're gone. Changing history and making up shit to fit this modern day narrative is insulting and angers me like there's no tomorrow! Show some damn respect to those that fought in the war regardless of their side!
@Manu-rb6eo
@Manu-rb6eo 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a family member in Japanese Navy, a zero fighter, he had 3 or 2 kills + 2 but unconfirmed (so don't count). He never did bad things but his duty like everyone else. These stories could also be told (with a Japanese and German side stories so a COD game could be longer than just 4h lol). Modern gaming (and cinema) don't care to have good stories and they're not interested to make something new......
@Karter_Blackpaw
@Karter_Blackpaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Manu-rb6eo Yeah i'd love to see some stories from the Axis' side of things. Something like Letters From Iwo Jima, or Oba The Last Samurai. It's sad that the only game that was able to give the Axis some slight even ground was Rising Storm\Red Orchestra as it didn't demonize everybody who fought in the war.
@ReinatakaharaVT
@ReinatakaharaVT 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was in the interment camps and my great uncles were in the 442nd GO FOR BROKE . She told of stuff they did to the Japanese amercians. Yet she bore no hate toward the American guard or anyone . She said it's the past it's forgvien . Nobaru shinto was my great uncles name .
@mattclements1348
@mattclements1348 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome,
@ScaryAppul-114
@ScaryAppul-114 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had to leave Tokyo because of firebombing my grandpa was too young to be in WW2
@FuhqEwe
@FuhqEwe 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather survived storming the beaches of Normandy, and survived The Battle of the Bulge. If he was brave enough as a young man to fight in WW2, then fighting to maintain historical accuracy is the least I can do.
@Ther_Bear
@Ther_Bear 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking sad
@danielschmidt7153
@danielschmidt7153 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was in France 4 days after D-Day, said it was a grotesque sight to see all the blood and bodies, him and his platoon were then ambushed in a village that was never cleared by the airborne corp
@danielschmidt7153
@danielschmidt7153 2 жыл бұрын
@The Badderman ignorance begets ignorance, enjoy living under a stone in a field of dying crops
@alexis1451
@alexis1451 2 жыл бұрын
@The Badderman Germany was wrecked by the Great Depression (and the effects of that greatly contributed to the Nazi's and Hitler getting into power). "Thriving" - good one!
@oliveiraluis3540
@oliveiraluis3540 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Respect to your grandfather. Thats all we can do to keep mankind in shape, is to be honest and tell it like it was.
@ElPigeonMan
@ElPigeonMan 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how sick in the head you must be to swap around identities because it doesn't suit your agenda. Vile company, hope bad things happen to the people who made this game.
@chickenlegs5061
@chickenlegs5061 2 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more fck the wokes who are doing this
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully something bad happens to those people so others can make up a fake version of their story so they can feel insulted when they're older.
@chickenlegs5061
@chickenlegs5061 2 жыл бұрын
@@dillonc7955 couldnt agree more
@mindyourbusiness1811
@mindyourbusiness1811 2 жыл бұрын
He gon cry in the car
@SkyFlaks
@SkyFlaks 2 жыл бұрын
dont blame the developers, blame the writers.
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 2 жыл бұрын
This game is literally revisionist history, if it didn't claim it was historically accurate and said maybe that it was alternate history it wouldn't have been such a big deal, this is simply a hallmark of fascist and communist regimes and advocates.
@deonte9014
@deonte9014 2 жыл бұрын
To be frank, I remember it being said that it was an alternate history and not historically accurate. Maybe whatever it was I saw or watched wasn't the truth or maybe in just incorrectly remembering idk, but I remember clear as day
@WoAS_Necksus
@WoAS_Necksus 2 жыл бұрын
Price to disrespect history: minimum entry $59.99 Price to be reminded of real heroes and how their stories would have made a better game? Somehow free, yet utterly priceless. Thanks WaB.
@DevilDaRebel
@DevilDaRebel 2 жыл бұрын
What a comment, DAMN. LMFAO!!!!
@kayagorzan
@kayagorzan 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment indeed
@EthanAdey
@EthanAdey 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@chickenlegs5061
@chickenlegs5061 2 жыл бұрын
Wait whats the game i need to play it
@mr_noobx3009
@mr_noobx3009 2 жыл бұрын
What's WaB?
@bricktop.
@bricktop. 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother spent the war making blankets for soldiers and also later did a bit in the munitions factories. She never mentioned that she single handedly defeated the Hun. Odd. Maybe it slipped her mind.
@PsychoHam
@PsychoHam 2 жыл бұрын
they get so forgetful at old age...
@theodorerooseveltsantlers270
@theodorerooseveltsantlers270 2 жыл бұрын
As an American I knew this game was a joke when: 1. I saw Sam Maggs was the writer. 2. Saw that you couldn't play as British Armed Forces during a WWII game lol. 3. In multiplayer it says "My Team" and "Enemy Team" as opposed to America vs. Germany. The Political Correctness is wonderful lol. Activision obviously didn't hear any of the backlash EA got with Battlefield 5 being a woke disaster, so they had to create their own disaster.
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Maggs is the writer? HAHAH it all makes perfect sense now. WTF happened to all the old COD writers that made Modern Warfare, Black Ops and World at War. Bring those guys back
@brndonlu9635
@brndonlu9635 2 жыл бұрын
I mean at least BFV did had some redeeming quatlies
@chickenlegs5061
@chickenlegs5061 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallybigmistake prob in respawn or something
@wwiiinplastic4712
@wwiiinplastic4712 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Battlefield V wasn't real Wokism. Real Wokism hasn't been tried yet. But CoDV will be different. You'll see.
@chickenlegs5061
@chickenlegs5061 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwiiinplastic4712 lol
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm Jewish." HAHAHAHHAA! The ultimate dodge. Very convenient. Of course, he is oblivious to the fact he can pass as white any day of the week.
@MadRobexe
@MadRobexe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes when it comes to pushing multiculturalism on others they say "Hello there fellow whites" and when you ask them about who Israel exists for and how can live there they cry "racists anti semite" As the old saying goes: The J cries out in pain as he strikes you.
@christianbethel
@christianbethel 4 ай бұрын
THIS!
@irish7460
@irish7460 2 жыл бұрын
When telling the story of the past, especially something as brutally monumental as a world war. You have a resposibilty as the story tellers to tell the absolute truth.
@jchan8539
@jchan8539 2 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to your comment. This is a videogame, it's entertainment. It doesn't have to tell the absolute truth. However it's based on a very important event where real people made sacrifices and lives were lost. The responsibility they had was to show some respect. I think it's clear, the devs had very little respect for the source material.
@irish7460
@irish7460 2 жыл бұрын
@@jchan8539 I get where your coming from. I love creative license. But I also beliveve EA and Activision, time and time again take too many liberties. We should tell the truth, no matter how offensive or dark it is. It is a fact, our ancestors fought and died for. Revisionism is wrong.
@praevasc4299
@praevasc4299 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jchan8539 Even then, if they want to tell a completely fictional story as entertainment, they could have chosen completely fictional characters for that in an otherwise historical setting, then it wouldn't be a problem. The problem is taking actual real life historical men and then changing them, pretending to tell their true stories.
@Jay-gf8tm
@Jay-gf8tm 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, historical events shouldn't be made into fantasy. It should be portrayed as close to how it actually was. I believe they are willingly obfuscating history to enforce their agenda at this point.
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@jchan8539 It changes when you decided to start using real places and real men in your story. Then it's more than just entertainment. It's the legacy of people who came and went, many of whom died bloody deaths. There is a responsibility to not flagrantly change everything to fit your ideological desires.
@Harrythepot
@Harrythepot 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in the British army during WW2 and he was awarded a MBE due to his bravery saving his squad. He spent most of his time in Burma during the war. He was a legend and there was so many ex servicemen at his funeral. Activision and the developers of vanguard need to go back to school regarding the war. I totally agree with Mack. Fun fact my grandfather was given a kukri by one of the gurkhars he saved. We still have this to this day.
@gamebrain
@gamebrain 2 жыл бұрын
@The Badderman exactly the rich leaders dont give a shit about "heroic" soldiers. Donald trump called them loosers for dying
@polyfission2776
@polyfission2776 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamebrain “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ― Henry Kissinger, a zionist jew.
@V_2077
@V_2077 2 жыл бұрын
@The Badderman ah yes just let the Nazis win and take over our countries... Use your head mate
@TurtleGamers1
@TurtleGamers1 2 жыл бұрын
@The Badderman Russian troll. Go away.
@teddyhornibrook5352
@teddyhornibrook5352 2 жыл бұрын
Your grandad and my grandad might have bumped into each other 😮 My grandad served in the grenadier regiment out in Burma as well.
@joeseabreeze
@joeseabreeze 2 жыл бұрын
The past few years, the world has been brushing history under the rug. It's sad and absurd, particularly for the people who died because of past events (like you said). "When memory fades, history repeats itself and flows based on the generations".
@user-eu5ol7mx8y
@user-eu5ol7mx8y 2 жыл бұрын
The woke is a lot like a cult. They are extremely commited to denying reality so they can keep believing in their preconceived dogma. A religious cult would at least promise an afterlife or something like that. The woke cult promises nothing and stands for nothing except destroying anything of value. They're hinilists.
@Allen.Christian
@Allen.Christian 2 жыл бұрын
Most recorded history largely swept facts under the rug to fit the narrative of those who wrote it to begin with. Half the history you cling to is based on fabrications or distortions.
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-eu5ol7mx8y They even encourage people to cut off friends and family who don't believe the same things the woke are pushing. It's not just a lot like a cult, it is a cult.
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@Allen.Christian But we still make an effort to find out what is true and what isn't, this is why we still study history instead of just accepting assumptions of what is true as fact. We can see how they are knowingly altering a retelling of a historical event, an event we have plenty of documents to have reasonable understanding of what happened, to suit their narrative, and not the truth. Handwaving that away because other people weren't faithful to the truth is only contributing the corruption of history, and you wouldn't be helping anyone.
@Allen.Christian
@Allen.Christian 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamintherogue2421 Except that this is explicitly a fictionalized account. I agree it's a fairly shit way to do a fictionalized account, but anyone getting their history from video games is a moron.
@Zazee
@Zazee 2 жыл бұрын
Wokeism, sjw's, crt, whatever you wanna call it these ideologies are incredibly racist and bigoted in every way. Kudos for calling out disrespect as you came across it. More people need to stand up and call these things out to stop people from thinking that their modern forms of bigotry aren't actually bigotry.
@FerreusNRG
@FerreusNRG 2 жыл бұрын
this is actually just capitalism...
@matthewa6027
@matthewa6027 2 жыл бұрын
@@FerreusNRG yeah this is more just a Hollywood attempt to make more sales.
@javierortiz82
@javierortiz82 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things I disrespect the most is that those corporations create divide in order to sell more stuff, nowadays it seems that being male, or white, or even worse, both at the same time, is a war crime and you're reprehensible because of the information your genes carry. I care about people being decent human beings, that's what I strive for, and I find it disgusting that they create artificial narratives that suits their interests to be more marketable.
@FerreusNRG
@FerreusNRG 2 жыл бұрын
​@@javierortiz82 I know right! Having a girl, or black dude, in a video game is super hateful and divisive! Cant we just go back to the good old days when only white men played lead roles :( I dont see race or gender, ofcouse.
@wtice4632
@wtice4632 2 жыл бұрын
@@FerreusNRG you missed the point. Work on your reading comprehension you racist dolt
@joshsquash9917
@joshsquash9917 2 жыл бұрын
“Everything that’s woke turns to shit” Truer words have never been spoken
@mindyourbusiness1811
@mindyourbusiness1811 2 жыл бұрын
What’s woke?
@yosefyonin6824
@yosefyonin6824 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindyourbusiness1811 the sjw bullshit is called "woke" because these idiots believe society is "finally waking up to the systemic racism"
@shiriese
@shiriese 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindyourbusiness1811 this game
@PSXman9
@PSXman9 9 ай бұрын
@@mindyourbusiness1811 a extremist form of progressive activism and identity politics.
@mindyourbusiness1811
@mindyourbusiness1811 9 ай бұрын
@@PSXman9 oh ok, like a insurrection to reverse a election right? That’s extremist right?
@DjLakey-S
@DjLakey-S 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review and I couldn't agree more. The fact that they didn't just allow you to play as the people who actually completed these missions is hugely disrespectful and I imagine it must be devastating for the families of these people, knowing that their grandfather, father etc.. Sacrificed so much but yet they aren't credited with the job they did because it doesn't fit the ridiculous narrative in 2021.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
What is amazing is how he complains about culture being subverted, yet still thinks its the good guys that won. When its the supposed biggest victims of WW2 that are pushing this divisive shit. Same as they were doing in Germany in the 20's. And dont take my word for it, check Sarah Silverman gloating about how they dominate hollywood in seths late night show, when talking about her vulgar subversion of Christmas in Santa Inc. Which is probably not a coincidene a single letter away from satanic.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Noticer. What is amazing to me that some will realize all this yet they don't look one layer deeper to notice it was all pre-planned and the creeps behind the curtain controlled both sides which they still do.
@polyfission2776
@polyfission2776 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Noticer. Absolutely correct. People in general have a hard time believing that a cabal of people are "running" the show. Its seemingly deep in conspiracy theory turf. But the thing is, its very likely true. Or at least, ALL the bad actors who control western medias all happen to be followers of that religion. But this is what happens when a philosophy or religion instructs people to regard non-adherants as less than humans, merely insects to be enslaved.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 2 жыл бұрын
@@polyfission2776 It's all by design. The enemy wants us to focus only on one of their many branches.
@varmastiko2908
@varmastiko2908 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmills6489 They always need their boogeymen. China is one of them now and obviously in on the scheme just like all nations on earth.
@Lord_Wedge
@Lord_Wedge 2 жыл бұрын
This pisses me off. My grandfather was IN Operation Tonga. He was in the First Canadian Parachute Battalion which jumped in preperation for D-Day and would have been part of the group defending the southern flank of the guys portrayed in this game... They are shitting on that history and the men that my Grandfather fought beside just to fit their own narrative. Disgusting.
@andrewl8514
@andrewl8514 2 жыл бұрын
Stop trying so hard to be offended. You're just standing on the gravestones of dead people when you use them for this kind of fake outrage. It's a video game based on historical events. It's just source material for them to use. This is not created as some sort of memorial to people that died in the war, there are already thousands of those. This is a game where you shoot people, go play Mario if that's too much for you.
@Zezezeze69
@Zezezeze69 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewl8514 exactly. These people are ridiculous. Its a fucking video game.
@stephenphillips1545
@stephenphillips1545 2 жыл бұрын
Your right, let’s make a video game about Ancient Rome but really make it about traveling through outer space as a Wookiee from Star Wars.
@andrewl8514
@andrewl8514 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenphillips1545 Let’s make a strawman argument because our point is too stupid to substantiate
@royalhistorian5109
@royalhistorian5109 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewl8514 Umm, how is it stupid? Because this is about respecting history, Vanguard claims that they are respecting history...when they aren't , in fact, they are spitting on history. They could used so many interesting stories from veterans but instead they when completely off the board. This is exactly like what Battlefield V did and well...let just say that it didn't end that well. If they wish to write something up then go ahead but please don't push it as fact. Like try to respect the thousand of soldiers that died within the war and don't disrespect the real people that took part within the operations. The reason why people are mad on Vanguard narrative is that they trying to say that all of this that we are saying is true...when it isn't and are disrespecting the real people.
@Ludendorf01
@Ludendorf01 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that they had so gruesomely modified a true historical account. I assumed it was simply a racially/gender diverse fantasy set in WW2. To take a real event and then manipulate it to fit an SJW agenda is just disgusting. These writers have no shame. Truly embarrassing.
@erraticuk
@erraticuk 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind them telling a story, just don't appropriate other peoples when trying to make a point. Example: a Korean fought for both the Japanese and German army. Blacks also fought for Germany. Now imagine a WWII film where every single nazi is black or korean.
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 2 жыл бұрын
It happens all the time, and got Battlefield into trouble a few years ago for the same reason. They take true events/wars, and then just throw a young girl into it and craft their own narrative, or whatever the hell they feel like doing this Monday. I personally don't agree with the 'simply' racial/sex swap for real-life characters at all. The character needs to be the 100% same as whatever he was when he was alive. I don't tend to like whitewashing or blackwashing of film, but more so if it's based on real-life. It also doesn't make any sense if like 99% of heroes in WWII were white men, then you just turn them into black men and women, etc., given how statistically wrong that is -- very simple maths. That's history, that's the West, that's war. Nothing anybody can do about that. If you want a story set around lots of women being forced into war, then they should make a lovely little game about the slave-state/Communist police state of North Korea, they have lots of female robots in their factories and frontline. If you want freedom and truth -- in the West -- then you should stick to reality: white men were at the frontline, and pretty much nobody else (unless you were in the East, then the Indians of British India were fighters in WWII, among other cases). Naturally, Europe is 90% white, and 90% of everybody in war is male, so you do the maths on that one. We also have enough leaked missions and public missions and reports from WWII and almost every other war that you can easily create an accurate game based on real events/war without having to ruin it at the level of narrative/story/history.
@0Leonx0
@0Leonx0 2 жыл бұрын
@@erraticuk and there have been some Samurais who were European, now imagine if every second Samurai was portrayed as European, because that is what they are doing with these war stories and other things regarding Europeans. Every solder is black or woman.
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 2 жыл бұрын
@Classic World, every single facet of entertainment in our lives now (even outside of entertainment for that matter) is pushing some kind of an agenda. And it all revolves around the same things: >feminism/men bad >critical race theory/white people bad >America bad >open boarders >communism good/capitalism bad >Christianity bad/every other belief system good >white people nazis >poor jews had it bad Blah blah blah it's all the same and I'm so tired of it. If people can't blatantly see there's an agenda here it's truly amazing. I've never seen so many of the exact same sociopolitical messages being bombarded onto everyone all at once from all directions. It truly is a psi op.
@wedgeantillez
@wedgeantillez 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea people got their history lessons from video games. No one has ever said to me “I know it happened for real because it was in call of duty”
@K_-_-_-_K
@K_-_-_-_K 2 жыл бұрын
Bfv was very similar, they just forced in "diversity" when it could of been done very accurately like female Russian snipers or po2 pilots for example
@brndonlu9635
@brndonlu9635 2 жыл бұрын
Though at least BFV had a german story
@paolowerewolf0186
@paolowerewolf0186 2 жыл бұрын
True. But " At least" I can Play ad German,as England, as everything. Sure, Women were not there, but in the General State of WW2, I prefer Women and men Together than LIES
@siras2
@siras2 2 жыл бұрын
Airborne troops were some of the toughest and most highly-motivated soldiers in the British Army. The merest suggestion that they would have been wimpering about their own safety is both ludicrous and insulting. As for so-called "accuracy" British paratroops did not use reserve chutes - not much point when you're jumping at 800 ft.
@AmazonWebService98
@AmazonWebService98 2 жыл бұрын
they do now
@siras2
@siras2 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmazonWebService98 .. point taken, but that wasn't the case back then.
@fooknagga9560
@fooknagga9560 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is just a really big problem with writers in the gaming industry. Games have become so much more narrative focused but a lot of the writing has become worse because of it. I honestly see gaming as a place where people who can't make it as professional writers, anywhere else, turn to.
@charmingpeasant9834
@charmingpeasant9834 2 жыл бұрын
It's because professional, talanted writers get cancelled, like Chris Avellone or simply get gate kept, while hack blog writers and ex-games urinalists get hired through cronyism as writers for major games, like Sam Maggs.
@jared.mohammed
@jared.mohammed 2 жыл бұрын
@@charmingpeasant9834 Chris Avellone has not been cancelled. He is still working in the games industry. He was a writer in Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, Into the Breach, Prey (2017) and the upcoming System Shock game. And as a narrative designer for Pathfinder: Kingmaker and Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous.
@TanukiDigital
@TanukiDigital 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't failing as writers they are succeeding in doing exactly what they intend... subversion. It is intentional.
@charmingpeasant9834
@charmingpeasant9834 2 жыл бұрын
@@jared.mohammed He was dropped by Techland immediately after the now proven false MeToo accusations against him. He's currently blackballed from most of games industry that is cow towing to radical feminism, only with smaller projects available for him. Also he was only a writing consultant for Fallen Order, not a writer.
@vladimirdan1959
@vladimirdan1959 2 жыл бұрын
Writers who can't make it in Hollywood get into games and wrestling, both have been going downhill in terms of storylines
@PortfolioPL
@PortfolioPL 2 жыл бұрын
Both of my grandfathers fought on the Axis side and they were the same as the typical Allied soldiers: peasant boys pressed into service to fight and kill people they know little about and cared even less. No matter what people think of them and what they did they would not have wanted someone to lie about their story.
@zarAK471
@zarAK471 2 жыл бұрын
BASED
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
If they made a movie about that German pilot that escorted that damaged B-17 out of German airspace, the pilot would probably be cast as a black man
@PortfolioPL
@PortfolioPL 2 жыл бұрын
@@finkamain1621 A black, gay, jewish man not understood by his peers - a Netflix original
@patriotenfield3276
@patriotenfield3276 2 жыл бұрын
@@PortfolioPL my toilet's brand name is netflix lol
@MrSTVR
@MrSTVR 2 жыл бұрын
This game was made by Activison Blizzard, so that should tell you everything you need to know about virtue signalling.
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Rommel Corporates capitalists seem to love communists and vice versa. Must be some type of horseshoe effect or bell curve similar to Pac Man, where you leave the screen on the right side of the screen and you enter from the left side of the screen
@treett4268
@treett4268 2 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Rommel - Didn't they also have some sexual harassment allegations?
@chuckEcheddarcheese
@chuckEcheddarcheese 2 жыл бұрын
@@treett4268 indeed they did, twice.
@VintageWarfare
@VintageWarfare 2 жыл бұрын
We are reaching the point where before stories in games about, as an example, the Harlem hell fighters (an all black unit in WW1) was actually interesting and different. It has now gotten to the point where just depicting what actually happened is more controversial to a minority of people but heavily desired by most people. Most people that fought and died in WW1/WW2 were Asian or white people. Many units like the code talkers or the red tails were huge stories and really awesome ones at that. WW2 games haven’t depicted WW2 in years. BFV did do a campaign story from a Germans perspective and it was ridiculously interesting to see. COD WAW did a story of a Russian fighting to Berlin. That was interesting. I’d like to see a Japanese or Italian side story too. But let’s be real, this is them making political propaganda. So it’s not even about what people want.
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
They'd probably never make a movie or game based off the black or Indian SS divisions because the Germans always need to be portrayed as white even if they were 99.99% white. Allies on the other hand being that same percentage, but they have to change around the races and sexes for everything to make non-whites and women seem like the were the saviors of these wars. It's sickening
@tonyjones1560
@tonyjones1560 2 жыл бұрын
IJS, my great-grandfather was a Harlem Hellfighter during WWI. My grandfather was a POW camp guard during WWII. Joachim Piper's SS men committed another massacre besides Malmedy, the Wereth 11, all these soldiers were black; they surrendered when the SS told them they'd level Wereth and slaughter the townspeople otherwise. There was a unit of black GIs at D-Day that raised barrage balloons over the beach (at Omaha, I think) that kept a badly decimated Luftwaffe from strafing the landing US troops. Merrill's Marauders (the forerunners of the US Army Rangers, they wear the MM unit patch as their regimental crest today) recognized that black supply troops kept them alive in the field and would take them to "whites only" spots, buy the beer and dare anyone to complain. No one did...it was a GREAT way to get shot. I've read that there was at least one black Wehrmacht soldier killed at Stalingrad and several others during the final defense of Berlin from the Red Army. The bravery of black soldiers in the "great wars" has been, mildly, under-publicized. That said...I agree with this video. There's no reason to "make shyt up." The truth is far more interesting...
@VintageWarfare
@VintageWarfare 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyjones1560 that’s kind of the point. I’m not taking away from contributions made by black men in WW2. In fact they had wild success stories. But let’s be honest from a historical perspective. That was 0.5% or who fought and died. Many astounding feats were achieved by many people. They have been published in every video game for the last god knows, 3 battlefields? 2 WW2 themed CODs? That’s 5 games over the span of half a decade that focused on those stories. There are stories other than those that aren’t talked about, namely, the Japanese, Finnish, Italians, I could go on. The problem is there is a very clear revisionist focus here. Battlefield 1 was the only game to actually cover an all black unit accurately and with class that really gave respect to the Harlem hell fighters. BFV did one on a free French black unit that was pretty good. But other than that, it’s just made up bullshit. Hell even BFV completely revised a story in which all the commandos involved died, and replaced them with a Norwegian girl and her mother. People need to relax when it comes to thinking speaking from an obvious historical standpoint is racist or sexist. It’s not at all.
@tonyjones1560
@tonyjones1560 2 жыл бұрын
@@VintageWarfare I agree that twisting history to fit an agenda is 1000% a bad thing. I personally think it's frightening on several levels. Staying on topic, though, in the USA the valor of black soldiers in under fire has been too often been downplayed or covered up, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They might have been a small percentage of the frontline combat troops but even these men often didn't get their due. Many years ago, an internal US government study of Medal of Honor recipients concluded that many worthy black military men didn't get The Medal because they were black. One particular former officer received the medal for his actions in Italy decades earlier; he was nearly 90 and dying of cancer. My Hellfighter "Grand Al" was buried with his "doughboy" helmet and his Croix de Guerre when he passed away in the early 1970s. The Hellfighters were "seconded" to the French because American commanders thought they were too skittish, stupid and unruly to function effectively in combat. All that said... it's a bad thing for anyone to be allowed to think that a video game is historically accurate. Being, myself, the last of 5 generations of veterans and one of two to have carried a rifle on a front line IMO, the least we owe these men and women is the truth... regardless of the context (video game, movie... even history textbook).
@MidasMakeItRain
@MidasMakeItRain 2 жыл бұрын
BFV also took a lot of stories that were about white people or men and rewrote them to be about non-white people or women. For example, they completely buried the commandos of operation gunnerside in favor of some nonsense mother daughter story.
@nerderuption26
@nerderuption26 2 жыл бұрын
It`s straight out of the marxist playbook. As Orwell said - " “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
@kejuanbanshwera9732
@kejuanbanshwera9732 2 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with Marxism ? Lol
@nerderuption26
@nerderuption26 2 жыл бұрын
@@kejuanbanshwera9732OPen a history book or two. Woke marxists are rewriting history in order to suit their political narrative.
@kejuanbanshwera9732
@kejuanbanshwera9732 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerderuption26 Doesn’t that happen with facists / authoritarian regimes and people on the opposite side of the political spectrum.. also ?
@kejuanbanshwera9732
@kejuanbanshwera9732 2 жыл бұрын
What you are doing is exactly what you have originally commented Pushing your own political agenda because you don’t like a certain other one.. it’s ignorant and rude and highly facist 🤡
@nerderuption26
@nerderuption26 2 жыл бұрын
@@kejuanbanshwera9732 Yes absolutely, but in this case it is motivated by a woke marxist agenda. Whomever uses this tactic should be called out for it.
@ggzii
@ggzii 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandad was in Arnhem and was captured as a POW, we have a bottle with a bullet in it that was used to shoot him. The fact these companys do this is appaling frankly. I know CoD isn't there for "realism" but come off it, you can't be doing this kind of stuff.
@bricktop.
@bricktop. 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the actual real human beings involved in this absolutely horrendous conflict are unaware of the modern day gaming versions of their heroic actions.
@awakeandwatching953
@awakeandwatching953 2 жыл бұрын
my grand father was on the cruiser prince of wales sent to support Singapore which was sunk by the Japanese (we lost 2 cruisers sent with no air cover, just another part of the disaster that was the fall of singapore) he spent 2 years in the hell of a Japanese pow camp, theres no hope now for ww2 to be treated with respect by the big entertainment companys.. if i was a cynical man i would think they waited for most to be dead before they shat on their memory's
@wakeup2theNWO
@wakeup2theNWO 2 жыл бұрын
Out of pure interest how did you get the bullet that killed him?
@ggzii
@ggzii 2 жыл бұрын
@@wakeup2theNWO It didn't kill him, he was shot in the leg.
@wakeup2theNWO
@wakeup2theNWO 2 жыл бұрын
@@ggzii Ahhh I see silly me, I hope he led a good long life after 👍
@Simte
@Simte 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite unfortunate that for some children of new generations this kind of revisionism is passed as history. As a teacher I am truly worried about this because knowing our history is one of the things that makes us human. Most people are distancing themselves from books towards most immediate and biased sources of information.
@hedged-valley1148
@hedged-valley1148 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve legitimately seen so many teens in my school who wouldn’t know hitler from Mussolini.
@comradetonk8280
@comradetonk8280 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this makes me even more angry. These greedy game devs not only don’t give a shit about the quality of the game, they don’t give a shit about the damage they are doing. No I’m not gonna blame the devs, I’m gonna blame the greedy bastards who directed them to do this.
@21Arrozito
@21Arrozito 2 жыл бұрын
All history is revisionism, it just comes in different flavors and at different times. All generations were/are taught some revised version of history.
@deonte9014
@deonte9014 2 жыл бұрын
L o fucking l. Are you mad? Vanguard isn't being passed off as history. There are certain historical elements and locations and some people, but on the whole? Lmfao. That's like saying that Nazi zombie movie overlord is being passed off as history just cuz it's a ww2 setting.
@Simte
@Simte 2 жыл бұрын
@@21Arrozito Indeed, but one of the many tasks of education in hypermodern societies is to guide people construct their world views with a wide variety of information out there, quite unfortunate is that most people stick with the first thing at hand.
@blitzkrieg1098
@blitzkrieg1098 2 жыл бұрын
Still can't get over the reflex sights in the campaign, never ceases to piss me off when WW2 games feel the need to add them.
@Abensberg
@Abensberg 2 жыл бұрын
younger generations cant aim properly and need some help nowadays... ironsights? damn thats a bit tough :(
@Smigsmacker
@Smigsmacker 2 жыл бұрын
White people backing down on the race issue doesnt seem to be working out for us too well. Seems to me like we're going to have to stand up for ourselves.
@DrettiAndDaleHaveNoDad
@DrettiAndDaleHaveNoDad 2 жыл бұрын
You know… it’s a great amount “white” people pushing that god awful woke-left agenda aswell. So it’s obviously not about skin pigmentation. It’s about being morally correct to these weird people, so much so they would use the diversity card to show how much they “care” about skin pigmentation. Also, you’re promoting the ignorance of tribalism. There’s so many ethnic groups within caucasians and just like the woke-left, you dumb them down to “white people”. People like you are also apart of the reason why the woke and the left feel justified to push lies and bs.
@Smigsmacker
@Smigsmacker 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrettiAndDaleHaveNoDad say that same thing you said to me, but say it to the jews at the ADL and I will consider your points sir.
@danielblank9979
@danielblank9979 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather fought in the battle of Stalingrad. My great grandma lost her entire family in ww2 and she survived the ghetto. This is abysmal that such heroes are portrayed incorrectly only to match the modern agenda.
@marko-1987
@marko-1987 4 ай бұрын
My nana lost 2 or 3 of her brothers during ww2, awful point in history.
@grandplus946
@grandplus946 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually kind of disgusting that they feel like it's okay to just rewrite the legacy of the heroes who gave their lives to rid the world of an evil fascist regime. It's a massive middle finger to them and they would be turning in their graves.
@Gruntvc
@Gruntvc 2 жыл бұрын
It gets worse as BFV already did this too in its campaign a few years ago. Activision just ignored it...
@Pyappers
@Pyappers 2 жыл бұрын
It's called communism.
@OutOfNamesToChoose
@OutOfNamesToChoose 2 жыл бұрын
They want to rewrite history to aid the creation of their own new fascist regime. It won't suit them to teach people about freedom and racial cohesion. Ideologists don't come to power by telling blatant lies, but from mutilating the truth just enough to be fraudulently passed on.
@GeneralDread
@GeneralDread 2 жыл бұрын
Rewriting history is kinda their MO
@Drain_Life_Archive
@Drain_Life_Archive 2 жыл бұрын
The Germans were not fascists though. They were racists. They called it "national socialism" but this was a misleading title. It was really racial socialism.
@TacticalProjectGaming
@TacticalProjectGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I am more shocked about the lines at 12:00 than anything. "We ain't exactly in the credit-getting business" That's so cheesy for a war game lol
@Vlamyncksken
@Vlamyncksken 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the woke lingo nowadays. What does he mean, that if he had met a negro before then he'd get credit for things the black man did? Seems so...strange...
@assassinaria
@assassinaria 2 жыл бұрын
I think what they wanted this to be like the Avengers but as WW2 organizations. I'm down with that but putting coloured/women crossed the line tbh. Both the women and coloured people had their struggles and to ignore them and pretend they were allowed to fight in the war is insulting to them and the white men who died in battle.
@kameradin8964
@kameradin8964 2 жыл бұрын
In the campaign at least the black soldiers is accurate, the 93rd was a real unit and was made up entirely of black people,and yes they did take part in combat operations. Of course I could also mention the various colonial forces of Britain and France as well, but no apparently acknowledging or showing non-white soldiers is disrespectful.
@Vlamyncksken
@Vlamyncksken 2 жыл бұрын
@@assassinaria Colonial forces did Force Protection duties, didn't they? I heard they were found to be unreliable frontline combatants
@blizzardgaming7070
@blizzardgaming7070 2 жыл бұрын
They were in the credit taking business.
@Harryhas26
@Harryhas26 2 жыл бұрын
Something I've never understood. Why do a WW2 game if you're not going to respect the event and keep it accurate? Unless you clearly state that it's an alternative history then why rewrite things? Battlefield 5 did the same with Norwegian commandos being replaced with a little girl on raid to destroy a hydroelectric power plant . That would have been a great opportunity to shine a light on the free Norwegian forces war effort but instead it's rewritten. I've got no problem with a diverse group of characters & stories as long as they actually existed, it's not like WW2 is lacking in diversity anyway, 2 million Indians served, over a million African soldiers, Soviet female fighter aces & snipers. So many people were involved in WW2 that there's millions of stories both told & untold. So much incredible drama there to chose from for video games, films, books etc, it doesn't need to be rewritten if it's already epic. The Paratroopers being too scared to continue is an absolute farce as well, all British Airborne units were volunteers, 6th Airborne had been training in the UK for years eagerly waiting for action. They were beyond motivated men, seen as the cream of the crop, they wouldn't suddenly become cowards upon dropping in. If you don't want to respect the event and the people involved, don't make your game based around it.
@PsychoHam
@PsychoHam 2 жыл бұрын
"it's not like WW2 is lacking in diversity anyway" MFW i realize WW2 got cancelled in 2021 because it had too many white people in it...
@thekingsown10
@thekingsown10 2 жыл бұрын
sorry that is just not true , there might have been a million african soldiers "drafted " but in reality only a tiny % actually left the USA and out of those who left 90% of them were assigned to non combat roles..
@Harryhas26
@Harryhas26 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekingsown10 I'm not talking about the US? Those would be American soldiers. I'm talking African soldiers who would have served in French & British colonial divisions. The British African divisions served with distinction in Burma.
@thekingsown10
@thekingsown10 2 жыл бұрын
@@Harryhas26 That is in stark contrast to their "heroic" behaviour in Italy while raping and murdering the civilian population for fun. Funny how no game is made about that ... The colonial troops were an absolute disgrace.
@Harryhas26
@Harryhas26 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekingsown10 Hate to break it to you buddy. But rape & murder happens in war, by all sides. By your metric there were no good guys at all. Trying to diminish the sacrifice & effort of millions because of the actions of a few is a strange move, but I imagine it's driven by an alternative motive from issues you're end. I could write off the US war contribution because of the 15000-20000 rapes across Europe I suppose.
@THEXGreaverX
@THEXGreaverX 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so honest and real. Thank you for giving so many real life examples and not letting woke companies change history for political gain. As a disabled veteran, I appreciate everything you do.
@vigilantslacker6039
@vigilantslacker6039 2 жыл бұрын
The gaul of game creators to construct a video game about one of the largest human sacrifices in history can only be offset by a commitment to accurate storytelling. I’m all for freedom of speech and creative liberty, but there is a right and a wrong way to handle stories that construct the cultural values our societies have today.
@fabioborges5183
@fabioborges5183 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t expect a game that has world war 2 weapons fitted with reflex holographic sights and acog scopes to be historically accurate…
@ShaneMcGrath.
@ShaneMcGrath. 2 жыл бұрын
True, But then they should not use real life characters then. Did they even ask the relatives for permission to portray them in game, Or pay them some money? They make millions in profits off of others hard work and in this case sacrifice then the least they can do is honor them in game accurately. Would you like it if it was one of your ancestors being used for profit and not even portrayed as the person they were? If they want a fantasy WW2 game that's fine but don't use real people and milk them for profit.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 2 жыл бұрын
Don't butcher ww2 history and pass it off as authentic then.
@cyber_swordsman4633
@cyber_swordsman4633 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, lazy and uncreative this game is
@Kongjie57
@Kongjie57 2 жыл бұрын
Saw that pickup weapon for an STG with a 3.5x scope literally in this video at one point
@medovk
@medovk 2 жыл бұрын
its like they had taran tactical as army gunsmith, ridiculous.
@NADGEN
@NADGEN 2 жыл бұрын
First two minutes in and; 'here-here!'. Growing up I had several friends from Pakistan, a friend from the Philipines, a couple of friend from Nigeria, friends from poland, Ireland and then the rest were english lads. We never once even considered each others skin colour, we mostly cared that each of us was cool and kind and liked pokemon. Or when I got older, Gears of War!!! This modern thing where people are being taught to see skin first is frustrating because I think we were close to martin luther kings dream of being judged by the content of our character, for me and my friends - we were there. But these modern people want to thrust us back to the dark ages. So annoying! and frustrating.
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
Philippinos are pretty based. I had a friend from Taiwan and one from South Korea and they'd always hang out with us at lunch, despite the language barriers
@sheraznisar4833
@sheraznisar4833 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Pakistani in Ireland who had Nigerian,Polish and Filipino friends
@TomLehockySVK
@TomLehockySVK 2 жыл бұрын
I've read a few great comments on the "Everything Wrong With CoD Vanguard" video by Dartigan, let me paste the comments here, they describe a scene when German soldiers capture the main characters: SpringHeeledJack of the Gurdians: The history in this game is beyond insulting, but the premise of this game alone makes no sense as a nazi policy at the time of the time was to kill all allied special forces found within occupied territory, they would be all executed during the scene the SS Officer captured them and found none of them had a name they could ransom or use for a propaganda victory. Reply: GentlemenZay: Yeah that was something that got me from the moment they got captured. Berlin is literally burning down around them and the Red Army is barely being slowed down the by mostly children and elderly conscripts that make up the bulk of the surviving German military at this point but for some reason main bad guy and his underlings feel it’s important to hang around and interrogate some random Special Forces team instead of just shooting them and fleeing the city. Reply: Alin Bobaru Or use them as bargaining chips to get better terms when they surrender to the Americans which would be way better than surrendering to the Red Army. Reply: Helmut Kogelberger Especially as the smart ass leader of the outfit could not resist boasting with his rudimentary knowledge of the German language and trying to humiliate the SS officer in front of his subordinates. This would have speeded up their demise. Note from a retired career officer: When you are captured by the enemy try to be humble and cooperative. You might live to see the end of the war.
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 2 жыл бұрын
CoD is basically Hollywood at this point
@uptheworker
@uptheworker 2 жыл бұрын
@@DakotaofRaptors you could see this in COD: WW2. When the train crashed and you could smell Michael Bay sweating.
@sheepywolfanimations
@sheepywolfanimations 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the soldier's brothers in arms who have been there and seen it with their own eyes, seeing this crap... and never being able to see their friends again because they were blown up, gunned down, torn to shreds, etc... And being portrayed as cowards on screen. I've never known anything more brave and heroic than those who pushed into the face of death so we could wake up in the morning, eat cereal and live free (sort of). How disrespectful indeed!
@teresazbikowska7094
@teresazbikowska7094 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the way equality is used now, universalism and pacifism too, to undermine male and female relationships by setting the sexes against each other because the West needs to be more progressive i.e regressive. This is because they see unequal outcomes and want that corrected with diversity qoutas, green new deal and feminist sexual revolution "attitude" to transplant beliefs of bodily autonomy, promiscuity, pleasure and convenience onto all people to undermine the family unit. Since if everyone stops caring about pair bonding we are liberated from a male dominated culture or something like that. They justify it as freeing women from white supremacy, racism and patriarchy, when it's really its just an attack on old fashioned traditional values.
@soldat5160
@soldat5160 2 жыл бұрын
If a movie like "the Longest Day" that details June 6th from a variety perspectives (including German) were made under today's woke cultural milieu, it would be juvenile, ahistorical garbage with simple one dimensional characters and too many Michael Bay like action sequences on the beach, very similar to COD Vanguard. Fortunately, there are games like Hell Let Loose (a multiplayer game) that are made by Indy devs, which respect the time period. Games don't need to inset steam punk or fantastical nonsense and current day politics to be relatable. Verisimilitude is enough to convey and portray the experience of that time.
@vlweb3d
@vlweb3d 2 жыл бұрын
Mack, you should know by now. These developers and games DO NOT RESPECT history. They PARODY history. This is exactly why you should never take these games seriously. These games are nothing but a money making joke.
@Daft_Lad1994
@Daft_Lad1994 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on comment that is why youre supreme emperor
@jasondclark
@jasondclark 2 жыл бұрын
Morgan Freeman is a great man and I am on his side in that debate. Thank you for sharing the actual history.
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc 2 жыл бұрын
A great actor too, in some great movies. Se7en being one of my favorites, along with Shawshank .
@robertstan298
@robertstan298 2 жыл бұрын
So the way you fix problems in life is also pretending they don't exist? How TF did you make it this long in life?
@berserkerhoshigaki727
@berserkerhoshigaki727 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertstan298 Missed the point. Morgan is saying a black history MONTH is a fucking joke. We (black people) are made America. If u keep bringing up race, it implies a difference. If it’s no big deal. Then no need to mention it if we’re all equal. Instead these cheap months they out to minorities but NEVER themselves
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertstan298 Yeah, lets spend all of our time talking about how different we are, instead of talking about the things we share in common and the hobbies, stories, and goals we all share. That'll definitely be a better use of time that won't lead to endless animosity, right?
@arx3516
@arx3516 2 жыл бұрын
He's right, historical events regarding sub-saharian Africa and sub-saharian african people should be integrated in the main curriculum and put in their chronological slots. It would be interesting to know how sudanese people ended up with a style of sword almost identical to the european arming sword.
@unik9018
@unik9018 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's feels like every AAA game nowadays have to be like this
@Gabriel87100
@Gabriel87100 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Brazilian Expeditionary Force (FEB) invaded Italia during WWII to fight the Nazis with the help of American troops. The Brazilians had white and black soldiers fighting alongside and treating each other as equals, much to the American troops surprise, which helped instigate the same feelings on American soldiers. To this day the brazilian troops are still remembered in Italy in annual ceremonies due to how kind brazilian troops were to the local population, who faced starvation and were sometimes sneakingly assisted by the troops who sometimes sacrificed their own rations. In fact, even the Germans themselves buried 3 FEB soldiers in graves marked as "Three Brazilian Heroes" after they died in a last stand that lasted as long as their ammunition did. The amount of wonderful stories that happened during WWII and are just waiting to be told is insane, yet these corporations will only disgrace the memory of those who died fighting barbarity.
@Freak-px9uk
@Freak-px9uk 2 жыл бұрын
What a load of bullshit, where is your source? I'm a brazilian myself and never heard about this crap, brazil was the least country in the world to abolish slavery, you're trying to dodge facts about how brazil was and still is one of the most racist countries in the world where most black population are poor living in favelas.
@Gabriel87100
@Gabriel87100 2 жыл бұрын
@@Freak-px9uk "I'm a brazilian myself and never heard about this crap" yeah, that says a lot about you. If you really want to look it up yourself and not be an insufferable idiot, you can Google the following, because KZbin allows spam bots to post links freely but deletes my comments in under 10 seconds. "O que a FEB ensinou sobre diversidade racial em plena 2ª Guerra Mundial" - CNN Brasil; "Cerimônias em homenagem aos heróis da FEB na Toscana e na Emilia-Romagna" - ADIEx ITÁLIA; "Em Pistoia, Itália homenageia heróis da FEB que lutaram bravamente" - DefesaNet; "Os Três Heróis Brasileiros na Segunda Guerra Mundial" - Fatos Militares. Now, kindly, fuck off my man.
@Psyopcyclops
@Psyopcyclops 2 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, banter is not only not a form of hatred, it’s actually a form of bonding. Banter between Aussies and Pommies is like 2 brothers playfully trying to offend and make fun of each other, but there’s no malice in it at all. Banter is healthy. There’s always respect first and foremost.
@Zenstudent105
@Zenstudent105 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to comment again after watching it. I came for a rant about blue haired feminists and shit and got a poignant, painful history lesson. This was well worth the wait and my gratitude for what brave men did is renewed tenfold by this video. I’m going to call my WW2 vet grandfather. Thank you, sir! You always produce great work but this was a cut above.
@sixtyinsix
@sixtyinsix 2 жыл бұрын
Easy boycott on a AAA game. Yet Again. For years now. Screw the AAA gaming industry.
@YouRSmalltime
@YouRSmalltime 2 жыл бұрын
Revisionist history /historical revision lets you establish or manipulate narratives. Its essentially like rewriting canon in star wars fiction. The actual past didn't happen if you can convince a bunch of people including the "loudest" current generation to accept their netflix and videogame fictional narratives (whic are precisely calculated) as truth and historical fact.
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 2 жыл бұрын
See , this is what i fear , keep repeating a lie and in time it will become the truth . These people keep burning real history books and pumping out game like these which children is easily to be influenced , i wouldn't be surprise if one day my grand child said Russian female sniper fighting along side with African french troop in Berlin .
@jona826
@jona826 2 жыл бұрын
If you use lies to try to fix racism all you will end up with is more racism.
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Mao tried to remove 3,000 years of history back in the 1950s. He said that it was to ensure that the Chinese people did not remember the past; otherwise, they might be tempted to revolt. You cannot fight for what you do not remember. Likewise, the Nazis either completely re-wrote German history or massively corrupted real Germanic/European history, coupled with bringing back pre-Roman Germanic insanity (such as 'collective guilt' for entire families for the crime of one family member, akin to what horrible crime bosses do in Latin America, or what the Japanese was known for in WWII, to some degree). Orwell also wrote something clear on that in 1984: 'Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.' We already see that right now in the far-West. Everybody does what the Party says, Laws are created based on the Party and its core followers, and the most extreme voices, and there is no clear mention of the past or future outside of the context of 'the Party is always right', just as there is no individuality or freedom, only your allyship to the Party and fellow supporters, lest you risk your status and likelihood. Morality is from the Law, and the Law is from the Party. Pure collectivism. Nothing else exists for these people, no God, no religion, no family, no social clubs, no personal values, just the Party and man-made system. This is clearly the case with things like 'cancel culture' and the whole 'woke' movement. It already exists as we speak in the extreme in China, North Korea, Venezuela, and Russia to some degree, along with Sweden, France, Scotland, and elsewhere to lesser degrees. Not to mention the other Communist-like stats right now, such as Laos, Cuba, and Vietnam, and some African and Latin American states. Of course, many Middle Eastern states are a bit like this, but in the context of Islam. It's worth noting that a number of countries have major Communist arms of their governments or just very popular elements (such as Nepal, Sweden, and Japan), along with a number of Communist organisations, such as BLM (self-declared), Antifa, Internationalism, World Revolution, Internationalist Communist Party (Italy), and Communist Workers Organisation. (Not to mention the fact that many studies have proven extreme liberal-bias across all of the news outlets and social media since 2011 or so. If you look at film, you can see clear narrative bias, anyway, and it's been that way for years. Now, it's finally hitting video games, board games, and otherwise. In 5 years, everything will be biased, corrupt, woke, post-modernist, feminist, socialist, and so on. Absolute nothing will be left untouched. They already got their hands on sports such as F1 and NFL, and now even entire religions and major charities have been corrupted by CRT, etc., such as the Catholic Church and the Salvation Army, as both recently reported that 'they are racist. White people are racist. Christianity is racist'.)
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
Call of Duty 3 got myself, my best friend, and my brother in WWII history. Most of the game was historically accurate but I can't imagine some kids playing Vanguard and thinking that everyone back then used reflex sights and that black and female soldiers were super common. If they get interested in the history, they might be in for a shock when they find out that you can't fit a P-51's reflex sight on an MP-40
@brianfidler1123
@brianfidler1123 2 жыл бұрын
This is why this will be the only Call of Duty that I will never buy. I agree it is completely disrespectful. Go woke go broke.
@Desh282
@Desh282 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. When I saw battlefield 5 butcher the heavy water raid story I was livid. They said they were gonna bring to life real life stories and spat on the graves of men involved in that mission to promote a woman. Stolen valor! Didn’t give a single dollar to bf 5 And don’t want to give it to vanguard.
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 2 жыл бұрын
WW2 a war fought between European Men is not "Inclusive enough" for our modern sensitivities. What a slap in the face and an insult to my grandfather and all my great uncles who fought in the war.
@ghadabad
@ghadabad 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't the battlefield series do something similar with the Norwegian commando raid? Swapping out the team of men for one woman or something to that effect
@hectatusbreakfastus6106
@hectatusbreakfastus6106 2 жыл бұрын
Activision is literally the worst video game company out there, for many reasons. You are right, this is completely disrespectful to the heroes that fought and died so we could have freedom. Glory is a great movie, highly recommended! Seen it dozens of times.
@Bulbman123
@Bulbman123 2 жыл бұрын
People shit all over Gearbox, justifiably in a lot of ways, but they REALLY did their homework with Brothers in Arms Road to Hill 30, and it's still IMO one of the most "authentic" feeling WWII fps games I've played
@jonny_apocalypseii1051
@jonny_apocalypseii1051 2 жыл бұрын
mp40 with red dot sights. . . enough said on historical accuracy
@richardrichardsnotface6229
@richardrichardsnotface6229 2 жыл бұрын
The irony of sweeping one of the worst forms of Fascism in our history under the carpet to increase the appeal of this game to the current Fascist movement is not lost on me.
@optima-nova772
@optima-nova772 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Mac! War is just a "thing" to these people, a thing that can be rewritten with ease. Remembering and honouring those who fought, and yes on both sides just feels like the right and well humane thing to do. They have devlaued the cost of war and dehumanized and disregarded the lives involved. Disgusting indeed!
@ch3rt.
@ch3rt. 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why, ladies and gentlemen, Kingdom Come Deliverance is one of the best RPGs ever.
@toddmichaeljohnson7139
@toddmichaeljohnson7139 2 жыл бұрын
Your commentary is right on! I played the COD WWII campaign three times and I think it’s pretty good. However, World at War is my absolute favorite. The things I’ve been hearing about Vangaurd’s campaign really turned me off, but this is the nail in the coffin for me. It’s super disrespectful to the real history and those who experienced it. Also, Glory is a masterpiece.
@Trve_Kvlt
@Trve_Kvlt 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the new world of historical revisionism in the name of diversity and protecting peoples feelings.
@gazzaroony
@gazzaroony 2 жыл бұрын
Its just a game, however the current political situation reeks of the begginings of a dangerous future. We are in the fingertips of a closing red fist.
@minimundus1712
@minimundus1712 2 жыл бұрын
It will never came but i wish we would have a campainn on the german site start with poland to normandy, showing a young lad who is motivated but after seeing people die, he looses his faith, and makes this a remembrance for all the german soldiers who just faught for there country and not idiology
@djmandrick
@djmandrick 2 жыл бұрын
All I've witnessed is life around me get diluted and watered down to the point where a trivial inconvenience by most is an actual life crisis. Life is easy street compared to back then. An actual hard life. Where sacrifice, accountability, a moral compass and an understanding of treating those around you with respect was a given. How things have changed.
@CommanderLongJohn
@CommanderLongJohn 2 жыл бұрын
Everything seriously just fucking sucks now... Video games, movies, clothing, music, politics, the news, social media, architecture, even simple little things like advertisements in a store, at best it's just lame as fuck and uninspired, and at worst it's fucking terrible and-or full of propaganda... I'd much sooner take a hard-NORMAL-life over what basically amounts to living in the Twilight Zone 🥴
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@CommanderLongJohn I'm so glad I was born in the mid '80s. The '90s was the last chance to enjoy this stuff before it all went to hell.
@james87367
@james87367 2 жыл бұрын
The people who made this game are a disgrace.
@baronburgamot243
@baronburgamot243 9 ай бұрын
Great critique as usual. Games now are political statements more than they are games now and while this has always been prevalent (the MGS series has always been hugely anti-war) it was done well and it fitted with whatever narrative and characters well. Now its something else, it's obtuse in the best cases, obscene and outright disgusting in the worse examples as yet another political agenda is shoe horned into a game narrative that never needed it to satisfy the SJWs and Woke crowd. It permeating everything like a plague. Cant even enjoy spiderman without having woke agendas stuffed into every orifice of the game.. And Vanguard well... what a surprise they took an amazing story about amazing people and absolutely butchered it to tow the ever insipid and cancerous BLM party narrative (a narrative most Black people don't want or even care for), dude was already a fricken hero without them pandering to the woke agenda. You're bang on the money pal with your comments. Well said.
@hillson418
@hillson418 2 жыл бұрын
if they adhered to the history books then they wouldn't need to bother coming up with their own narratives. its almost as if ww2 just wasn't enough for them.
@Rob-fn1kp
@Rob-fn1kp 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, that Morgan freeman clip is great… and that interviewer… imagine that he’s got through his career with that mindset…. And to immediately go to “I’m Jewish”.. what an absolute disgrace to think that’s a piece of Ammo to use to come back with
@johnbowman3630
@johnbowman3630 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm white until it's no longer convenient, then I'm Jewish" 😏 The way he immediately straddled that fence was both typical and amusing.
@TheOrangeRoad
@TheOrangeRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Its nice to see Jewish folk acknowledge they don't consider themselves white
@SansAppellation
@SansAppellation 2 жыл бұрын
Great intro. I know you are a fan of the French, so I'll refer to a conversation I had with a Parisian professor. He was bemoaning the fact that term racial had re-entered the French discourse as it was seen as a backward view of the world and something that had long been resolved in France. Some might be shocked at this because of "the racial divide" in Paris. Well to that, another Parisian friend of mine, who is a POC, commented that Paris' issues are not racial, they are based on ideology (religion) and economic imbalance. Constantly having to address this backward American discourse is extremely tiresome and not reflective of the rest of the world. America has its problems, as does every country, I just wish they would stop constantly trying to export them. Morgan Freeman is on point with his views.
@hinglemccringleberry9389
@hinglemccringleberry9389 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this is nothing new. BOTH COD and battlefield have taken that stupid turn to pander to being woke. Remember the "hard water" mission in one of the newer battlefield games? That's a classic example of changing history to be woke
@RaySparkz
@RaySparkz 2 жыл бұрын
You do realized those are video games right? and fiction?
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 2 жыл бұрын
In the Russian female sniper storyline inspired by Lyudmila Pavlichenko the main character for some reason always hates on the red army, never fights alongside red army soldiers and is happy to leave on a plane full of gold together with Americans and Brits after the war is over???
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is not to piss off the SJWs who bitch about the USSR being "red fascist". Yes, leftist politics is a hell hole.
@RationalLlama
@RationalLlama 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that was disgusting about the game was the inclusion of an Indian female soldier Padmavati in the multiplayer. The trailer literally says "Padmavati hates imperialism" as she is mowing down Germans. This is a woman who lived in British India and is freeing British soldiers from the Germans because she hates the imperialism of the Germans. As if the British weren't guilty of it in India. The lack of history knowledge in this game is just baffling. In reality, the Indians were sympathetic to the cause of Germany as Germany wanted India free from British rule.
@jimmyrustler8983
@jimmyrustler8983 2 жыл бұрын
As are the Dutch, French, Belgians, etc... And they were all occupied by the Nazis during the war. Seems fitting.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 2 жыл бұрын
India would have been under Japanese Rule and well we saw how Japan treated their close cousins China. It's always nonsensical , Japan would off brutalised India on a scale not seen, Indian's might not like Churchill, but he saved them.
@RationalLlama
@RationalLlama 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidrenton whether or not Britian was better than Japan is irrelevant in this case. This doesn't change the fact that at the time, India supported Germany over Britain and Indian generals met with Nazis to form the Indian legion to overthrow the British. I'm just disappointed with the poor portrayal of history in the game.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 2 жыл бұрын
the difference is Japan would off R***d and M****rded it's way through India like they did with China, India was not Germany concern's. It was never intended to be conquered by Germany but Japan. So India General's meeting with the German's , mistake number 1. Again look what happened to China and multiply that. the Japanese R around half a million women in Nanking, so don't even compare the Brit's and Japanese, there is nothing comparable even the Soviets didn't go as far.
@SpottopsNL
@SpottopsNL 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidrenton Same in Indonesia, the Indonesians supported the Japanese when they drove out the Dutch but the Japanese were just as brutal if not more brutal than the Dutch. That support was very short-lived.
@jasonissel217
@jasonissel217 2 жыл бұрын
"Never in human history has so much been owed to so few people", they would fly and fight and bailout of their planes and the next day be right back up there, the Battle of Brittan inspired me, an American from a young age reading their stories in a history book.
@ML-eq4rx
@ML-eq4rx 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think English was your strong suit in school
@alphatucana
@alphatucana 2 жыл бұрын
Deconstructivism, I suppose: undermine our real heroes, so they can be replaced with some new cardboard cut-outs that will train the next generation to be weak and compliant. The same thing happens in movie remakes and sequels.
@kingscrump
@kingscrump 2 жыл бұрын
Man the game would of been amazing if we did the historically accurate version and it would of been respectful to history buffs, vets, and progressives. What a missed opportunity.
@DarknessProphet
@DarknessProphet 2 жыл бұрын
Soldier 1: "Okay, we're on the same side and we have to push through now." Soldier 2: "Sure we do [insert an insult here]." Soldier 1: "Are you for real mate?" Soldier 2: "Yes, now cover my back as I advance slowly, you little [insert another insult]" Soldier 1: "Oh, I've got your back alright..." * Here lies soldier 2, he died three seconds after the war started. Nobody knows how the enemy got to him, but somehow he got shot in the back *
@charmingpeasant9834
@charmingpeasant9834 2 жыл бұрын
They butchered the Lyudmila Pavlichenko inspired campaign too, turning the playable character into a MG-42 wielding super soldier, it's just ridiculous.
@TheFatMob
@TheFatMob 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the mandatory talk about muh misogyny.
@ploppyploppy
@ploppyploppy 2 жыл бұрын
Must've been hard for him charging across the bridge dragging his two heavy steel balls. I'm sure if you showed all those heroes the world today they wouldn't think it was worth it.
@KapnRich
@KapnRich 2 жыл бұрын
Many didn't think it was worth it. A decade or two ago I spoke to a couple of WW2 veterans who thought the "rudeness and entitlement of today's youth" was not worth the horrors they and their friends faced.. It's sad..
@chancemcclendon3906
@chancemcclendon3906 2 жыл бұрын
Normally I don't really care about changing history generally for story like adding people and telling there fake story but if you going to show real events make it faithful these people gave there life for us. Gezus.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 жыл бұрын
The whole issue on racism was on its way out in the 90s, so why did it have to be made into a huge issue again? Modern media: "You see this? This is race! See this race stuff! All you need to pay attention to is race stuff! Why aren't you making race your whole life!? RACE! Race, everything's gotta be about race! There are too many whites in the world, crowding out all the minorities!" randos: "but European-descended peoples are only like 16% of the whole world's population..." Modern media: "SHUT UP! That is the wrong race you need to think about! You need to think of the MINORITY races, like the Chinese or Indians!" Modern academia: "But those are white-adjacent!" Do the media and academia elites really want a unified white identity movement to form? \Because that worked out SO well in the 30s...\
@themurphy7507
@themurphy7507 2 жыл бұрын
When a journalist says "This is the most immersive and historically accurate WW2 game", I knew that it's not immersive and historically accurate at all.
@agentooe33AD
@agentooe33AD 2 жыл бұрын
2 things Mack. First, thanks for the respect to WWII vets, which includes my late father. There's a lot of stories that don't get told, not only because they're not saucey, but also because vets often times don't tell their stories to anyone other than guys they served with. so when I see crap like this in modern media, it really makes my blood boil. Second, thanks for playing that Morgan Freeman clip. I've cited it many times as to the agenda of destroyijng race relations in the west. God bless brother, hope you're healing up ok.
@tanos857
@tanos857 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Maggs was the writer for this game, a well known SJW activist. She'll be writing Star Wars KotR Remake and Wonderlands. Everyone who loved Star Wars KotR is worried about her involvement with the remake since the dev's mentioned "a modern take" with the remake. You can thank her for the bad writing in Anthem and Mass Effect Andromeda.
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chambers36TheEnterAnd because of that, SHG has always been the worst CoD developer. They made Vanguard, WWII, Advanced Warfare, and the shifted Cold War onto Treyarch to finish. They don't even know how to reload a bolt action with a scope, yet they live in a country with the most guns and the easiest access to them through museums, collectors, props, shops, etc. so it's no surprise when they have no merit to create a historically accurate and non-buggy game
@sgtskysyndrome
@sgtskysyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
Dartigan made a really great point in his game sins video for this game. His point was that, in this game, the Nazis are depicted as racist...which they were. However, the prejudices that plagued the Allies at the time are completely ignored. In attempting to appeal to the SJW crowd, the game has inadvertently created whitewashed propaganda that paints our enemy as bigoted and us as without fault. My country had very few units that were integrated during WW2. It wasn't until 1948 that President Truman issued an executive order integrating the US Military, and even then integration of combat units didn't really happen until the Korean War. In addition to disrespecting history, games like this cowardly avoid any of the difficult stories and themes. Many of the compelling war movie narratives confront this head-on with a bigoted character who is forced to set aside his prejudice by the end because he realizes that the person he disliked has suffered and fought beside him. These are the compelling narratives that show the pettiness of man and the realities of war. In WW2, many racists went off to war and fought bravely. It stands to reason that the number of racists who went off to fight this war FAR outnumbers the amount of racists who came back (many of them died to be sure). Many of the racists who left had to confront the incongruities their wrongheaded beliefs produced. When I was in the military, I commanded quite a few white men who claimed to have never even seen a black man, in person, until they enlisted. The military has a funny way of teaching life lessons, and this game seems to refuse to deal with any of this. If there is any comfort in this, it is that the men you discussed in this video were hard men who bore up under the struggles of this war. They were men among men. Whether they are depicted accurately in a COD game never meant anything to them. It didn't matter when they showed their greatness, and it never mattered any time after that. The problem is that children, who are not being taught the truth about these men, will not know or understand their true greatness.
@benjamintherogue2421
@benjamintherogue2421 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, I'm friggen sick of hearing about racism. What is a racist? It's a person with a bad opinion. Most people who are racist aren't psycho killers, they're just that, regular people with bad opinions. Plenty of racist people can have their mind changed, it's not like their racism is a permeant never-changing feature. It's an opinion. If we talked about all of the things we shared in common, all of the things we share a love for, that'd do more to end racism than this never ending screeching about who did who a dirty and should pay for it forever.
@sgtskysyndrome
@sgtskysyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
​@@benjamintherogue2421 That's true. Look at people like Daryl Davis, a black man, who has convinced hundreds of Klansmen to give up their robes. People can always have their mind changed. The arc of human history is bending towards liberty and justice...or at least it was.
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 2 жыл бұрын
Calling Germany full racist is ignorant to what Germany actually stood for which is dangerous because that equal to putting Hitler in a monster box and writing it off and not thinking about the greater chaos the man stood for. If Germany was completely racist, then how do you justify every race serving in SS units right up to the end of the war? Germany at this time certainly had a superiority complex but I wouldn't call the nation straight up racist and "let that be the end of that subject" as one would say.
@sgtskysyndrome
@sgtskysyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seriona1 I initially drafted a reply to you, and all this time later I am surprised to see that it has been removed. I will reproduce it to the best of my ability. I never said that "Germany" was full racist. I said the "Nazis" were racist...which they were. If you dispute that, which it sounds like you do, I don't know what to tell you except, "read a book." Most of your comment after that flows from a false premise. Additionally, I would like you to cite one source that establishes that all races served in the SS. Under Himmler, the SS candidates were required to show Aryan genealogy going back over a century just for entry into the SS. Many criteria, such as number of dental fillings, height, and vision requirements, were relaxed to expand ranks, but the racial identity of the SS was preserved for its entire existence. Himmler allowed "people perceived to be of related stock" into the Waffen-SS, and they certainly conscripted from occupied territories, but those foreigners were not considered part of the actual SS. Another obvious point here is that the Waffen-SS was still comprised of white people. Cite evidence that "every race" was represented in the SS until the end of the war. You can't because it isn't true.
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgtskysyndrome If
@claude5520
@claude5520 2 жыл бұрын
This was just so bad Not only the guns are historically inaccurate, even the story is historically inaccurate. It's insane ! I only played vanguard to see what the story was like, I was so tired of skill based matchmaking. And then we get this !? The story was just so stupid One of the biggest things I disliked about this game is they didn't even portray D-Day properly. Like wtf ? So we'll just forgot the hundreds and thousands of soldiers who died for our freedom !!?? It's so stupid !!
@leedobson
@leedobson 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the Para Corporal wearing WW1 webbing and a WW1 Cavalry/RHA leather bandolier...the kit accuracy in these games blows
@themysticalmovementsoftheu19
@themysticalmovementsoftheu19 2 жыл бұрын
Is nobody else insulted by the tactical red dot site on an mp40? Why would they make sure the story is accurate when they can't even be bothered to get the equipment right.
@stupidrainbo
@stupidrainbo 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a single GD game written with a right-wing perspective. Like Far Cry 5, except instead of the cult being far-right nationalists, it's a bunch of far-left Antifa people that want to 'tear down the system'. lol
@MadRobexe
@MadRobexe 2 жыл бұрын
Go watch Murdoch Murdoch.
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is that most antifas aren't taken seriously even by leftists. It would be better to have a game set in the Russian civil war so that you can play with the perspective of whichever side's your favourite. And back then, anarchists were actually taken seriously.
@xeviphract5894
@xeviphract5894 2 жыл бұрын
WWII contains the complete human experience, but they'd rather write fiction than honour the memory of those who were there. Read your history books and you'll find extraordinary tales of courage and professionalism from across the globe. There's no need for fabrication.
@axelmilan4292
@axelmilan4292 2 жыл бұрын
The title says it all. This is an attempt at revisionist history.
@nitricoxide5899
@nitricoxide5899 2 жыл бұрын
I think, from a historical standpoint, having the entire battle of Stalingrad portrayed as it was in Vanguard is just as egregious. Not only in that Polina actively ignores what she was trained for and sets off on some personal vendetta against the Germans, but also in just how the campaign plays out. Stalingrad falls in the same day as the Germans show up, when in reality it lasted two to three months for the Germans to get into the inner city. Later, it isn't the bold resilience of the defenders in the city followed by the encirclement by the Soviet Army: no it's just Polina rallying the Soviet Soldiers and partisans to take the city back. Apparently, exploiting flanks and bitter fighting isn't as good as the strong independent woman. There would've been so many other, equally good opportunities. 1077th Anti-Air Regiment, who were in large part comprised of teenaged girls, that were at the outskirts of Stalingrad. Untrained for combating ground targets but remained at their posts for two days and held off several battalions. Or a dozen other frontline services (machine gunners, mortar operators, pilots) rather than just a medic who abandoned her training to go be a stand-in for Sam Maggs' power fantasy.
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 2 жыл бұрын
Or they could of used several account of Soviet female tankers and snipers who fought for their nation loud and proud.
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seriona1 or night bomber regiment 588
@scottdnb6816
@scottdnb6816 2 жыл бұрын
Glory is a great movie. Made a few careers if I remember right. Great video Mack. About time someone called this crap out.
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a non white person that did grow up in a mainly black environment, and even I am getting annoyed when I see random "people of colors" crammed in in setting they don't belong to just for the sake of woke virtuesignaling. What anoys me is how patronizing and dishonest that shit is. Do you think we'll see POC in a chinese setting? Do you see we would see white people in an african setting? Of course not, but for some reasons, EVERY SINGLE WHITE SETTINGS is now automatically a meltingpot where whites are just "one small part of it", be it in modern setting, medieval setting, medieval fantasy setting (which is based on medieval setting btw), scifi, hell they are even shoving in in mythology now where the MCU Asgard is somehow ultra "diverse" or in god of war where for some reason they had to have a black woman in the middle of the north pantheon. And what annoys me the most about all that shit is that THEY made ME annoyed about it when I wouldn't have been before, because they keep doing it too much and for malicious intent, to the point that any legit black characters in the proper setting feels annoying for no reasons, and what's worst is that these people clearly dont have any respect for the actual REAL black peoples, preferring instead giving them handmedown from white people rather than giving them their own real stories. Edit: Also HOT DAMN that Morgan Freeman clip was straight up pure fire and needs to be spammed every time some dipshit grifter bring up racist history month.
@viruk78
@viruk78 2 жыл бұрын
I think if they make a story fictional, then they can go their hardest with whatever storyline they like. Using actual history as a basis for a game, movie, book etc. is okay, but there is a responsibility of the creator/s to get it right as far as historical accuracy is concerned, especially with regards to something like Op. Tonga. These Red Devils were many things, but cowards was definitely not one of them.
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 2 жыл бұрын
Better be careful , last video I saw like this " Battlefield V : Historical Revisionism " by American Krogan resulted in his channel being deleted by KZbin for offending the woke folks.
@rogelioi.h.1556
@rogelioi.h.1556 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they had the audacity to state that the Red Army at Stalingrad were MOTIVATED by a woman sniper to retake their city really grinds my gear...im sorry theres probably something i don't know but the fact that they she plays the center of that battle...no im sorry but not sorry, no...Im fascinated by the Battle of Stalingrad that to this day i continue to research the battle because it draws my attentionand to this day i have heard nothing about an inspirational woman sniper like this sniper. Yes snipers, most notably female snipers, and women soldiers were present at Stalingrad and im not denying that but the fact that this lome FEMALE sniper was the inspiration for what basically amounts to Operation Uranus really grinds my gears it really
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