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@particularplaypaint5384
@particularplaypaint5384 2 жыл бұрын
My immediate reaction to seeing the new minotaur picture was. "OH NOOO"
@EnReaper
@EnReaper 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure we will now class one as a race with that curse-thing that makes people half animal (less or plus). And one as the real Minotaur
@magyker
@magyker 2 жыл бұрын
OH MOOO*
@romantheblack-cat
@romantheblack-cat 2 жыл бұрын
Me: spider cow, spider cow, does whatever a spider can
@anthonyhernandez7799
@anthonyhernandez7799 2 жыл бұрын
Same bro!
@junthemaledicted
@junthemaledicted 2 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar as a cow
@thepanzerofthelake732
@thepanzerofthelake732 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck did we go from Asterion: The Beast of the Labyrinth to Bessy: The Wet Nurse
@chad3166
@chad3166 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, even the first official source for Minotaurs as a race "Guildmasters guide to Ravnica" even the friendliest Minotaur is still a hulking monster, look up the art for boros battleshaper
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 2 жыл бұрын
I blame human bards slowly altering the genes of the minotaur population.
@thepanzerofthelake732
@thepanzerofthelake732 2 жыл бұрын
@@IrvingIV I hate how... Your theory actually makes sense.... Too much of it for me to be comfortable
@tjoris9
@tjoris9 2 жыл бұрын
Asterion is probably too scary for some D&D players, because we always have to cater to the easily upset crowd.
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjoris9 apparently this is just a version of minotaur that exists in certain places, much as we say "tree" to mean many different things
@Merlinstergandaldore
@Merlinstergandaldore 2 жыл бұрын
What they've done to Minotaurs... that's a load of bull! 🤭
@MonkeyDM
@MonkeyDM 2 жыл бұрын
x)
@Cooleye_YT
@Cooleye_YT 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyDM I when I see whoever did this I would say "Can somebody call a stableboy, cause I think I found a pile of horse manure!".
@catscentral
@catscentral 2 жыл бұрын
Hey hold you horses that pun was awful and I love it
@emilbroseliger8506
@emilbroseliger8506 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@dragonhearthx8369
@dragonhearthx8369 2 жыл бұрын
You made me scare my cat with laughter.
@danielvasquez7951
@danielvasquez7951 2 жыл бұрын
I and my barbarian minotaur who was the only to survive a almost TPK, refuse to acknowledge this change
@yvesdado9545
@yvesdado9545 2 жыл бұрын
What change i did not see anything.
@danielvasquez7951
@danielvasquez7951 2 жыл бұрын
@@yvesdado9545 the aspect of the minotaur
@Ousolers
@Ousolers 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielvasquez7951 its a joke bruh
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 2 жыл бұрын
if the minotaur looks soft, the survival is more impressive; but i catch the drift
@Knyex
@Knyex 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a change. The old Minotaur art is still present in Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica and still canon. The *entire* point of the book is to highlight the fact that "hey, don't let your creativity get limited by common tropes, these races you're used to can also exist in ways that go completely against said tropes"
@7isAnOddNumber
@7isAnOddNumber 2 жыл бұрын
Actually looks like someone’s fursona
@darioidk2508
@darioidk2508 2 жыл бұрын
eww
@carltheoneeye9353
@carltheoneeye9353 2 жыл бұрын
I feel attacked lmfao
@azertyuiopqsdfghjklm
@azertyuiopqsdfghjklm 2 жыл бұрын
@@darioidk2508 eww u
@Redmeer411
@Redmeer411 2 жыл бұрын
Thats probably not far off the truth, cant run the risk of offending anyone especially after the whole orc situation from a couple years ago.
@zioqqr4262
@zioqqr4262 2 жыл бұрын
@@wiimaster6421 Orcs are often stereotyped as stupid, tribal, brutes, intrinsically evil etc. This overlaps with a lot of racist thought, so many people are uncomfortable when writers use the "this race from a far of land is intrinsically bad so its okay to genocyde them". Esp when writers take elements from actcal, real-life societies (most commonly, ideas of shamanism/voodoo) and tack them onto orcs. Just leaves a lot of people with a lot of questions/discomfort.
@alexpratt8533
@alexpratt8533 2 жыл бұрын
Me reading the Monsters of the Multiverse: I recognize the council has made a decision. But given it’s a stupid-*** decision I’ve elected to ignore it.
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
Even though that fact has been a thing since 2nd edition
@raylenn4444
@raylenn4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerp5259 they were gentle giant,no bessy the cow since 2nd edition. Now that new art is just pure bull.
@wizardswine
@wizardswine Жыл бұрын
@@tylerp5259 Compared to the monster? Sure, but tbh they were basically just huge orcs but Baphomet. Even in 5e they were still hulking 7ft tall beasts made by the demon lord of beasts.
@therickerofrolls3586
@therickerofrolls3586 11 ай бұрын
Yep
@namethefifth7315
@namethefifth7315 11 ай бұрын
Oh god especially with the lore they did for goblenoids and what they did to lizzardfolk, removing cunning artisan and alien mind making them a lot less unique and borring. And oh lord, what they did to kolbolds is simply unexeptable. Like removing pack tactics. All for the meager benifit of being able to do grovle cower beg as a bonus action and now it doesn't make since and you get give yourself advantage at range. Like have you seen kolbolds, how on earth are their voiceboxes able to let them do a dragons roar to distract opponents. Like they probably aren't distracted from fear or how loud it is but probably just from laoughing at how stuipid you look trying to do a screachy cry lamo. Like come on wizzards of the coast what were you thinking
@jackwriter1908
@jackwriter1908 2 жыл бұрын
😂 _„Hello I'm your new friendly neighbor, the Minotaur.“_ *„Piss off, I want the old one. That guy at least had the Scare Factor for him going.“*
@nameless_milk_1624
@nameless_milk_1624 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the quotations like that
@jeezuhskriste5759
@jeezuhskriste5759 2 жыл бұрын
@@nameless_milk_1624 This one confuses me even more than capitalizing every word. Are there really keyboard out there that out floored quotation marks at the beginning? Edit: Apparently, most of eastern and central Europe do it that way. Weird.
@jackwriter1908
@jackwriter1908 2 жыл бұрын
»we often have this as well in books« „but that is more normal in a normal setting“ "this is rather rare and mosten seen in english speaking countries as far as I am aware"
@bannana422
@bannana422 2 жыл бұрын
Your face at the end just said "what can you do?" to me. Appropriate since I was crying.
@cpl.targrein1793
@cpl.targrein1793 2 жыл бұрын
This change isn't "meh" it's straight forward "bruh".
@setanta236
@setanta236 2 жыл бұрын
When you finally unlock the boss as a playable character
@MrBracey100
@MrBracey100 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@spaghettieggs
@spaghettieggs 2 жыл бұрын
It went from Minotaur, Monster of Crete and a blight upon King Minos’s reputation…. To a Firbolg with horns.
@emilbroseliger8506
@emilbroseliger8506 2 жыл бұрын
If “meh” shoud ever be in a video, this is the one D*mn that cow looks like if it’d jump out of a childs book. It’s rather a Disney-cow than a monster. I want that character as a plushie now xD
@ShinobiBoyfu
@ShinobiBoyfu 2 жыл бұрын
My first reaction to the "new" minotaur was "WHAT THE FUCK IS THAAAATT!?!?" genuinely, wtf WoTC... whyyyy? Why would you do this to something that looked so badass and make it look like a guy got plastic surgery to look like a cow...?
@eliluttrell7637
@eliluttrell7637 2 жыл бұрын
Look how they massacred my boy 😢
@SgtObvious115
@SgtObvious115 2 жыл бұрын
Yea lol the minotaur looks like a whimpy rogue now
@sewpkan1297
@sewpkan1297 2 жыл бұрын
it is a rogue, so look out for missing items and dead bodies.
@martinsvec1851
@martinsvec1851 2 жыл бұрын
This makes the gnome wizard look jacked.
@nessesaryschoolthing
@nessesaryschoolthing 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there should be a variety within races where they look different from one another. Some minotaurs are going to be slimmer and more agile than others, after all. It does make me think that most of the 4e art had the right idea of including like 3 examples of each creature in an exemplary piece of art. Imagine this twinkish looking one next to a bigger, brawnier, barbarian-y looking one, next to maybe an older, grizzled one that's a spellcaster or something. That would give a much clearer idea of the potential varieties of minotaurs you can play or use as npcs.
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj 2 жыл бұрын
So the ones who are more tribal and fight each day vs more civilized who chill in the grass lands
@Meowthix
@Meowthix 11 ай бұрын
Not sure about 5E but this is precisely why older versions had alternate racial traits. Still. The Minotaur has been depicted as this British half man half bull for hundreds of not thousands of years. There’s zero reason to change it. Like I cannot think of a single reason to change it. Like there’s a dozen races that can cater to a “twinkish looking fighter.” Not every race needs a version of it. Because there’s already options there.
@Meowthix
@Meowthix 11 ай бұрын
Brutish* just can’t edit on phone.
@nessesaryschoolthing
@nessesaryschoolthing 11 ай бұрын
@@Meowthix You know who else has been depicted as a brutish partially-human beast for centuries? ... ... MY MOM!
@francescoparretta5729
@francescoparretta5729 Ай бұрын
Yes, variety Is Always a good thing. Not every human fighter Is the same as another.
@thedudemiller1200
@thedudemiller1200 2 жыл бұрын
Minotaur more like minor-taur
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj 2 жыл бұрын
Lgbt and furries: mmm yes
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj 2 жыл бұрын
Furries and lgbt like: mmm yes unlimited life sentance
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj 2 жыл бұрын
Are my comments getting deleted?
@fero_zetta
@fero_zetta 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I could totally brutallize the second minotaur and I'm thinner than a spaghetti!
@proxy90909
@proxy90909 2 жыл бұрын
*cook is the word used for cowd
@WillTBear1
@WillTBear1 2 жыл бұрын
We already got those, too... They're called Firbolg.
@volk551
@volk551 2 жыл бұрын
I consider 5th edition firbolgs an insult to Irish people in past editions Firbolgs just looked/acted like giant Irish people.
@slayeroffurries1115
@slayeroffurries1115 2 жыл бұрын
Firbolgs are nothing like minotaurs. Firbolgs are descendants of the giants and protector of nature, and minotaurs are normal people transformed partially into bulls through demonic rituals
@zbuchholz10
@zbuchholz10 2 жыл бұрын
They have never been cow people, Matt Mercer making a mistake one time doesn't erase years of Firbolg lore as GIANTKIN
@drizzmatec
@drizzmatec 2 жыл бұрын
5e Firbolg are one of the worst lore changes that they have ever implemented. How do you go from fierce but honorable warrior race of Giantkin in tune with the elements, to ugly pixie but big?
@riastradh
@riastradh 2 жыл бұрын
@@volk551 as an Irish person, *please* don’t be serious
@robertpopescu7196
@robertpopescu7196 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think they did do some good stuff like how they improved air genasi and gave the earth genasi interesting stuff but they kinda steamrolled any diveristy with the spell stuff
@thecyberrabbit1440
@thecyberrabbit1440 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god that’s awful. Worse than any nerf they could’ve done to the stats
@damanman.
@damanman. 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@maximumforce8275
@maximumforce8275 2 жыл бұрын
The boss when you fight him vs when you play as him.
@stevenporter7065
@stevenporter7065 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just started DM'ing and have set up a dungeon around a Minotaur and I'll be using the old one thank you very much.
@oberynsand4859
@oberynsand4859 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry bud, you HAVE to use the new one or WotC is gonna send a beholder after you
@Dimitrishuter
@Dimitrishuter 2 жыл бұрын
The minotaur monster hasn't been changed, at all. The art being shown is for the player character option. Which... Yeah, player's always could make their characters look different.
@stevenporter7065
@stevenporter7065 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitrishuter ik, but I ain't using no week looking Minotaur. This boi gonna rampage!!!
@raylenn4444
@raylenn4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberynsand4859 they can try, but i'll just use my japanese beam to make that beholder into a gazer waifu.
@whitesaintatarmaon5766
@whitesaintatarmaon5766 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitrishuter I think the biggest issue is that if a new player gets the book and sees the Minotaur looking like that, they'll think that most minotaurs will look like that ...Which is honestly sad to say the least.
@goldnightcatreyes1704
@goldnightcatreyes1704 2 жыл бұрын
Eyy, if the neighborhood cow can still bench press my butt to oblivion, he still a legend, just one in the making.
@melchiorg13
@melchiorg13 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the art is just an example, you can have your hulking fighter minotaur with hatefilled eyes, but you can just as well have your friendly peace seeking cleric. I see no harm in that
@AMPMASTER10
@AMPMASTER10 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest a character I already made a while ago is minataur barbarian...that is just dairy farmer forced into adventuring due to a drought and needing to help support her family. However I never played her...because I mentioned her to a non dnd friend...and they started making jokes about her being...a "milk" cow. I was trying to make wholesome Mother character that occasionally makes cow jokes, but not THOSE kind. Now I'm afraid to play her. So point is wholesome cows were already a thing for some.
@emmanuelcapociama6141
@emmanuelcapociama6141 2 жыл бұрын
Minotaur cleric = Holy cow
@blitszina2570
@blitszina2570 2 жыл бұрын
....that drawing looks exactly like one of my minotaur dnd ocs not gonna lie XD Granted I do somewhat agree but in the end its up to the players to decide what they look like
@xyeona9624
@xyeona9624 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is cool, it expands the roster of what a minotaur character can be. Could just be a random cow boy (pun not intended), or the massive champion of an Arena who smashes anyone daring to challenge him
@Meowthix
@Meowthix 11 ай бұрын
It’s not cool. It’s lame AF. There’s a dozen races that cater towards what the cowboy would accomplish. That’s why there are all these races and racial variants. It wasn’t a needed change and it honestly just makes it he hulking brutish badass that was the Minotaur looks flimsy and lane. Imagine if a psycho pomp tried to lead you to the boneyard in a tutu carrying a magic girl wand. Doesn’t really fit thematically compared to the hooded winged entity wielding a scythe.
@OneTrueNecromancer
@OneTrueNecromancer 2 жыл бұрын
it's a good metaphor for the relation between 3.5 and 5e
@svenabel2987
@svenabel2987 2 жыл бұрын
friendly cow? That's already another race *upset Firbolg noises*
@lordmars2387
@lordmars2387 2 жыл бұрын
"B******* medium minotaur, but a real big boy."
@ssorayaya
@ssorayaya 2 жыл бұрын
i like the friendly neighborhood cow to be honest
@rantdmc
@rantdmc 2 жыл бұрын
what they've done is taken it out of Theros, where it was still a terrifying strength based beast, perfect for martial characters, and made it just a multiverse dude, so it can play any class, which fits with Tasha's rules for putting your ability scores wherever you want. it's now just a cow person
@dannykimes2323
@dannykimes2323 2 жыл бұрын
Still kinda had tashas rules for racial stats. Gets rid of fun race class combos like ork wizard and shit like that.
@dannykimes2323
@dannykimes2323 2 жыл бұрын
Hate not had
@thebro6204
@thebro6204 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't you play a monstrous strength wizard and stop being a baby about it
@AliceIsSleepy
@AliceIsSleepy 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebro6204 Right? I'm currently playing a gnome wizard with 18 strength. It's absurdly funny.
@rantdmc
@rantdmc 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebro6204 ummmm... why are you upset? I was just making a comment about the changes
@norricommander
@norricommander Жыл бұрын
Oh hell nah, now my mino paladin has a new drive for his oath of vengeance
@jasonscott2443
@jasonscott2443 2 жыл бұрын
That new minotaur looks like it gives a kindly worded request to exit their dungeon. It's like the minotaurs respectful Canadian cousin.
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how strong a Minotaur should be as long as thier horns don't get in the way minotaurs would be amazing with large scale war bows
@boxofmadness2511
@boxofmadness2511 2 жыл бұрын
Put ballistas on their horns if they are too big and throw goblins at the enemy
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 2 жыл бұрын
@@boxofmadness2511 in picturing something like the elcor in mass effect "with heavy weapons mounted on our backs, mixed pride and shame our enemies called us living tanks as well as names less flattering"
@humannomore7759
@humannomore7759 2 жыл бұрын
"In my opinion" You're right. Objectively right
@DeadBayt
@DeadBayt 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like turning the kraken into just a normal squid
@tineresnt5505
@tineresnt5505 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not like you can’t make a more classic Minotaur but this broadens the scope of what a Minotaur can be. Now rather than only being big intimidating beasts they can also look more friendly.
@luisspragg1546
@luisspragg1546 2 жыл бұрын
From some of the changes I've read about are ok but wtf are they doing with this I'll probably just revert back to the older minotaur stuff
@lovelyyolk9066
@lovelyyolk9066 2 жыл бұрын
No one is forcing the appearance of the minotaur, but they are a race of humanoids and therefore each one looks different. The old minotaur exists too, we have 4 different arts for the minotaur and each one looks like a whole different class, we have the og that is a barbarian a fighter what seems to be a cleric and the last one is probably a bard or a rogue
@bumblebot2458
@bumblebot2458 2 жыл бұрын
It just looks kind of odd though. Official art for these races is kind of supposed to show what the race's whole *idea* is, not throw it out for no reason. At least the Hobgoblin art (and I say this being someone who doesn't like the new Hobgoblin at all) *kind of* leaned into the military idea with the guitar thing also being an axe weapon, but really not much.
@Knyex
@Knyex 2 жыл бұрын
The point of the art in the book is to say "hey, not all members of a given race look the way most people commonly depict them as, check out this thin dextrous Minotaur, and this orc wizard" They're not forcing you to use the new appearance.
@coregrip1
@coregrip1 2 жыл бұрын
I get that this might be a bit dramatized but Minotaur is a race… Every race not every member of it is going to look as it’s stereotype
@electricangel4488
@electricangel4488 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck that i am human my brains works on that way. Mental systems and scema are just a think. Every member isisnt gonne fit one page
@haydes1285
@haydes1285 2 жыл бұрын
From bull demon to cow man
@OliveTheWitch
@OliveTheWitch 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great change It showcases that the race can be more things Like you said that's what everyone instantly imagines anyway, so showcasing something else can get the creativity juices flowing And that's what I think the whole book is about, making the exotic races more customizable, that's for instance why they fully embraced chosing the ability score increase
@jzoobs
@jzoobs 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, gives some variety and imagination to the race. Just like there are many shapes and sizes of humans, seeing diversity in fantasy races keeps things interesting
@shadexvii3975
@shadexvii3975 2 жыл бұрын
:( poor Minotaurs. Gone from cool to lame in a single book
@rjh7101
@rjh7101 2 жыл бұрын
Gee just like DnD itself. 5E is a complete joke.
@shadexvii3975
@shadexvii3975 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjh7101 having not played other editions I can’t really argue against it, but I feel that’s pretty rude
@ultimate9056
@ultimate9056 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadexvii3975 it's becoming more and more true as WOTC continues to make decisions like this
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
“Despite minotaurs' general brutality, they had the capability to be kind and empathetic.” Is part of the racial text for Minotaurs from 2E btw. Just gonna leave that here
@raylenn4444
@raylenn4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerp5259 that has nothing to do with them going from bulky powerful bull pepole to misshapen cow pepole. So cut the bull.
@Vopadevas
@Vopadevas 2 жыл бұрын
I'm rolling back to AD & D
@Ghv5t
@Ghv5t 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the new Minotaur picture I was like “is WotC for real with this cutesy cow person it looks like the odd cousin of the OG Minotaur that is a hippie and is probably high half the time”
@julielineberry1852
@julielineberry1852 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t hate it. I like to think the badass version and this version coexist. Think about the extremes people look in appearance. This guy’s just a sweet dweeb that flunked gym class 🤷‍♀️
@aronsvanlaugsson5338
@aronsvanlaugsson5338 2 жыл бұрын
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyikes.... Love your vids/shorts tho! they're always fun to watch!
@MonkeyDM
@MonkeyDM 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@personsomeone2760
@personsomeone2760 11 ай бұрын
That Minotaur has way to many satrys in the family tree
@davidmaurer8664
@davidmaurer8664 11 ай бұрын
The bugbear with a natural reach got my attention.
@Cosmic_K13
@Cosmic_K13 2 жыл бұрын
Introducing Soy milk cows. If this isn't indicative of where we're headed in dnd, I dont know what is.
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
Mind you, “Despite minotaurs' general brutality, they had the capability to be kind and empathetic.” Was in their racial text in 2nd Edition, so it’s nothing new.
@Cosmic_K13
@Cosmic_K13 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerp5259 But now we dont even get the brutality. Also, we're not playing 2e, are we? If I wanted 2e lore in my game, I would add it myself.
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cosmic_K13 but you do? Nothing’s changed besides the fact that they can now be smart instead of super buff. You’re basically going “Humans are dumb now and unplayable” because they used Mark Zuckerberg as an example photo instead of Arnold Schwaznegger.
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
Their racial abilities didn’t even change. They’re still primarily a strength race unless you don’t want to use 2/3 of their racial abilities.
@tylerp5259
@tylerp5259 2 жыл бұрын
If anything they match Faerun’s Minotaurs better now because their 3rd racial ability (the only one that seems to have changed) is the navigating passive and not the intimidation proficiency they’d get in Ravnica.
@Thamer4life
@Thamer4life 2 жыл бұрын
"I bought Monsters of the Multiverse" you got scammed
@jasonkoyama6096
@jasonkoyama6096 2 жыл бұрын
Hence why I printed out a cool picture and gently covered the “friendly cow”
@lenerflenerius7808
@lenerflenerius7808 2 жыл бұрын
Boss vs. Boss being in your party moment.
@thatblueeyedwolf
@thatblueeyedwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Awww he's cute!
@KroVey
@KroVey 2 жыл бұрын
And that's the problem...
@Rick-oi3xm
@Rick-oi3xm 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't this just one interpretation of what a minotaur could be? Like everybody knows what the typical minotaur looks like and you can still be that. I think it's neat to show a variant so people realize they can imagine their characters differently than what's pictured.
@altoclef4989
@altoclef4989 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's nice to see someone sane in this comment section.
@MonkeyDM
@MonkeyDM 2 жыл бұрын
I would say yes, except that they removed the previous D&D books with other arts for minotaur. This means that this is their official look now. Everyone is free to do what they want at their table of course.
@AngelSaintCloud
@AngelSaintCloud 2 жыл бұрын
Probably to fit into the whole "you're not allowed to play as large races"
@ussxrequin
@ussxrequin 2 жыл бұрын
Which is dumb. Powerful Build isn't even that strong. It's just...cool, and fun!
@AngelSaintCloud
@AngelSaintCloud 2 жыл бұрын
@@ussxrequin it's due to a lot of mechanics. Including weapons. Attacks and abilities come from the size of weapons and extend to abilities. So a minotaur hitting for 20 damage on a single turn (as an example) doesn't come from the minotaur but from the weapon that the minotaur is allowed to use. As the size category increases so does that base damage of said weapon. This includes abilities like token blocking NPCs/players, grabble/tackling, or the fact that all aoe damage in most situations would nuke everything in site. There's ways around all of this "homebrew" but in terms of just regular DnD it doesn't work rules as written. Simply put for each category above medium you get an addition die for each size. So a lvl 1 with the exact same starting sword but of their size category to be proficient would be 2/3D10. So imagine if you will teaching someone how to play D&D there's a level one fighter and before they even understand what features they've done 20 to 30 damage on a single turn. God forbid they try to pvp and murder the party because let's be honest nothing can stop them.
@Asocial-Canine
@Asocial-Canine 2 жыл бұрын
I AM HERE FOR THE FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD COW, HE'S PRECIOUS 🐮🐮🐮🐮
@zombiemanjosh
@zombiemanjosh 2 жыл бұрын
"I just bought Monsters of the Multiverse ..." Translation: "I just wasted $30+ on a worse version of a book from several years ago."
@lovelyyolk9066
@lovelyyolk9066 2 жыл бұрын
Which other book?
@zombiemanjosh
@zombiemanjosh 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovelyyolk9066 Technically 3, but they're available for cheap and are more flavorful, unique, and don't have nerfed races: Elemental Evil Player's Companion, Volo's Guide to Monsters, and Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes.
@coolbo3141
@coolbo3141 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it doesn't seem that bad. I think it's just an attempt to make the minotaur more accessible for players to customize to their liking. I see ninreason why a player can't just reflavor their minotaur to be more traditional in appearance.
@limethefemboy5205
@limethefemboy5205 Ай бұрын
Me, a bard: "I mean I'd do both.."
@Aki_7376
@Aki_7376 2 жыл бұрын
Nah bruh we went from a massive bull that causes massacres if it felt like it to yes a “friendly neighbor hood cow”
@kingsting12
@kingsting12 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also not that big a fan of MotM. This has been the case for many of Wizard's reprints; it feel like they mainly removed 'problematic' lore and gameplay mechanics instead of adding new cool stuff. It's a shame. I have no real problem with them trying to separate D&D from the Forgotten Realms, but the fact that their tool of choice is removing & boiling down old content instead of replacing it with something interesting or flavorful just feels awful.
@DandDgamer
@DandDgamer 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Tasha's *already* did what it had to by saying you can legally make up your own ability score modifiers regardless of race if you don't like what's there. Now they remove those entirely so I hear, because we need to not have the barest hint of an idea that a massive bull is stronger on average than a tiny halfling. They're just canceling themselves at this point, and making lore less interesting. Because you know what? The world isn't fair. There aren't 20 strength women in the world- that is to say, the strongest woman was always been weaker than the strongest man. And don't get me wrong, that sucks. If you want to play a +STR woman or halfling or kobold or w/e at the game table, great! Now make it part of the story. In Mistborn, if you're poor (Skaa), you don't get the magic! Sucks to suck! Now you have a Skaa magic person - okay, that's interesting! Where in their bloodline did a noble have a kid with a Skaa? It makes you think and actually put effort into the RPG. Harry Potter has the same thing. Its one thing if the lore was this way from the start. But imagine if major book series decided suddenly nah... everyone gets the magic now randomly, everyone's the same, the world is fair and equal and there are no class or race struggles because we're in magical pixie land. That's what it feels like wizards is doing for me... and a perfectly fair world cuts out a lot of interesting underdog stories.
@Bryito
@Bryito 2 жыл бұрын
They said they were going to get rid of the lore because it hurts peoples feelings it’s the most stupidest thing that I’ve seen🤦‍♂️
@alexandermikaelson1154
@alexandermikaelson1154 2 жыл бұрын
Wha??!!
@nabilzouikri1116
@nabilzouikri1116 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's not the first time that's how it has been for a while now, it's just sad seeing everything getting massacred like that
@altoclef4989
@altoclef4989 2 жыл бұрын
That's not what happened.
@hewitttribe5536
@hewitttribe5536 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the minotaur art, kinda like the idea that there are different types of minotaur, like how you can have different breeds of Tabaxi (Like Sphynx or Himalayan cat). So having a cow-taur I kinda like, since both could exist in the same world :D
@piotrwojcik6277
@piotrwojcik6277 2 жыл бұрын
My brain the moment i saw the new minotaur: *cowboy*
@electricangel4488
@electricangel4488 2 жыл бұрын
To all the people that when on the "Evil races are bad game design" I blame all of you for this
@Wanderer4Hire
@Wanderer4Hire 2 жыл бұрын
Ay, mobile legends is getting some recognition
@princefoxv
@princefoxv 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice pirate fursona ya got there Wizards
@addisonkennedy7111
@addisonkennedy7111 2 жыл бұрын
He seems like a sweetheart
@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like they went to minotaur's mom and got a picture of him from a school presentation when he was 6
@richyofthevillagers
@richyofthevillagers Жыл бұрын
They actually doubled down on the whole "not making it a large size creature" thing. Im impressed by the dedication, but thats it
@chiepah2
@chiepah2 2 жыл бұрын
Went from Minotaur to minitar
@jro2020
@jro2020 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly neighborhood cow? Okay city boy.
@RudiMyDear
@RudiMyDear 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Asterius, you got mythically castrated.
@diablo7464
@diablo7464 11 ай бұрын
And then theres the centaur
@fallofspring7351
@fallofspring7351 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look, Firbolgs got a new friend!
@bouganhagain8131
@bouganhagain8131 2 жыл бұрын
Just like the picture for Firbolg, it doesn't apply to all of them, this picture was most likely used simply to show that a minotaur doesn't have to be a hulking beast, but that players can actually have more leeway with a race that is otherwise very cliche
@hhaaanneess4357
@hhaaanneess4357 2 жыл бұрын
The moment you fight the boss and then when you get the boss as a playable character
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 2 жыл бұрын
"I've recognized the council has made a decision, but seeing that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it." - Nick fury
@Adurnis
@Adurnis 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you were gonna talk about the mechanics. Minotaur was one of the few races with a natural weapon that already did d6 damage, like every such race now does. But instead of giving them something extra to account for that, they took away their extra skill and gave them advantage on some Survival checks. Minotaur really did get screwed over.
@embr4247
@embr4247 2 жыл бұрын
The new art is the Minotaur while calm. The old art is the Minotaur when you piss them of.
@GandalfMonkeyAnimations
@GandalfMonkeyAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's fine, I know it doesn't match the legendary threatening image, but since it's for the player race, I think it's meant to help show they don't have to be threatening if you don't want them to be
@DarkKnight6six6
@DarkKnight6six6 2 жыл бұрын
"I recognize that the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it."
@papadiogenes4674
@papadiogenes4674 2 жыл бұрын
Bessie, the minotaur bard. Im sickened but curiously invested
@tyriannlargeus2632
@tyriannlargeus2632 2 жыл бұрын
This i precisely the reason why i use the Theros Versions of Beast Races when playing dnd
@richardperea8163
@richardperea8163 2 жыл бұрын
Nah bro that's a mini-minotaur.
@skullsquad900
@skullsquad900 2 жыл бұрын
And they're still MEDIUM sized!
@Thrawnmulus
@Thrawnmulus 2 жыл бұрын
But we already had friendly neighborhood cow, Firbolg
@silversonome5360
@silversonome5360 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, so... They made the minotaur a literal *cow boy?*
@MonkeyDM
@MonkeyDM 2 жыл бұрын
so many puns x)
@Zerum69
@Zerum69 2 жыл бұрын
We went from Chad the Barbarian to Reggie the Bard
@davidhiguera3078
@davidhiguera3078 2 жыл бұрын
That's no minotaur, that's a cowfolk
@ThatOnePolyTheist
@ThatOnePolyTheist 2 жыл бұрын
That's a centaur not changing my mind
@mrtrash4128
@mrtrash4128 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's a damn good thing that this is a game where you can just ignore what wizzards of the coast does and just do your own stuff, beauty of DND is it can be whatever you want
@DaggersandDiplomacy
@DaggersandDiplomacy 2 жыл бұрын
We assume that Minotaur have many depictions. It is worth noting that we now have Labyrinthine Recall.
@stephenstonge7968
@stephenstonge7968 2 жыл бұрын
I guess they're Trolls of the Coast now.
@snow-in4zp
@snow-in4zp 2 жыл бұрын
The friendly neighborhood cow…. Sounds like someone was a little too friendly with her neighbor's to get that nickname.
@fatbean2000
@fatbean2000 2 ай бұрын
I'm going to pretend to use old lore and picture and I am going to pretend they are bigger in my head .
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