WOTM: The Surprising Rebirth Of Belief In God

[@jimschmitz4848]

I watch, I listen, I like what I see and hear. Thanks be to Brian...

[@Vadjong]

I just broke the 100m world record. Well, who needs a stopwatch? I feel proud of myself.

[@pauligrossinoz]

I can't wait for your new book: "The surprising way I broke the 100m world record" 🤣👍

[@sergehychko3659]

Justin's book should have been titled, "incels like JP, therefore resurgence". It would have been more honest.

[@kjmav10135]

This is priceless! This BrierIey guy is thinking what “he is starting to see” amounts to objective reality. I love your keyed comments. They’re hilarious!

[@merbst]

"The only statistics I cite are those that are contrary to my thesis!" I burst out laughing at this charlatan for minutes. Then, right after stopping, I started laughing again upon hearing him say the words "Jordan Peterson".

[@andrewede7154]

Reality and religion rarely occupy the same room.

[@moonshoes11]

They just cannot be honest, it seems.

[@TJ000]

1000 years of Christian rule : Calligraphy and proto bathrobes 300 years of The Enlightenment: Literally, everything else

[@condorboss3339]

Actually, we can credit Christianity - specifically Benedictine monks - for the invention of the modern clock. In his great _Connections_ series, James Burke described how the verge-and-folliot mechanism was developed by monks to regulate the clocks they constructed to keep track of the proper 'hours' for their prayers.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@condorboss3339 That is not the modern clock but it lead to it. Eventually.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@condorboss3339 Nor was it Christianity that did that. It was a need to know the time more accurately than water clocks could do. And the monks had too much time on their hands so some them decided to put some of that time in on the gears of mechanisms instead of their hands.

[@heruraha93]

"It was an educated wish"

[@misterdeity]

That’s a great line! Yours?

[@heruraha93]

@@misterdeity I'm not nearly that clever, it's from the new Deadpool movie.

[@81caspen]

I absolutely love your work. The world deserves many more laughs and these figures have got everything coming you dish out and more. Thank you! I hope you’re doing well ❤️

[@misterdeity]

Thanks so much for the kind words. I am doing much better. I still don't have the energy I did before the anemia. But my doctors are trying to figure that one out. Thoughts and prayers, right? LOL!

[@81caspen]

@@misterdeity, I am so glad to hear it! ❤️

[@NastyLittleBagginses]

I'm reminded of an old Lionel Hutz quote: "We have hearsay and conjecture. Those are _kinds_ of evidence!"

[@misterdeity]

The greatest legal mind of our time!

[@jakeimhotep4866]

"Jordan Peterson is in the same intellectual milieu" in the same way an infant banging two pots together is in the same musical milieu as Mozart.

[@bobmudge4836]

Wishful thinking isn’t evidence? I’ll be darned.

[@timwhite7127]

Religion, it's for those who haven't outgrown the need for a fairytale at bedtime in order to sleep...

[@magepunk2376]

Christianity isn’t about truth. It’s about dogma.

[@robsquared2]

Less of a sea of faith, more of an algal bloom choking out all life.

[@misterdeity]

LOL!!!

[@suicune2001]

😂😂

[@merbst]

Red tide!

[@josephbelisle5792]

Well said. 😊

[@CMA418]

@@robsquared2 To be fair, Islamic extremism is a real and growing threat. Having an army full of “Christian” soldiers would come in handy; it would be unethical(and possibly-ironically-sinful), but still very handy.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

"Well put, Jordan Peterson. I don't know why people say you're dumb.' 'Thank you... who says I'm dumb?' (with apologies to F Troop.)

[@misterdeity]

That’s a deep cut!!!

[@yinYangMountain]

Alright, Justin, let’s see it. (crickets)

[@pnwtreehugger806]

I am looking forward to Briierey's forthcoming book "The Surprising Rebirth of Witch Burning."

[@c.a.t.732]

I suspect "childless cat ladies" is a euphemism for witches and their familiars.

[@ushere5791]

@@c.a.t.732 exactly.

[@misterdeity]

I feel like we could come up with new titles for Justin indefinitely.

[@ushere5791]

@@misterdeity lol!!

[@Yanquetino]

His next book: "The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in Phrenology."

[@donaldnumbskull9745]

I myself have made an intensive study of phrenological anaesthesia.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

the ladybird book of second comings.

[@klodius8588]

There is a name for that Justin. It's called "wishful thinking".

[@moonshoes11]

Confirmation bias is another name.

[@jursamaj]

I never fell for Brierly's "neutrality" stance. It was always obvious that he heavily favored the christian side.

[@oscargr_]

For the _fundamental brass tax_ of Jordan's argument, the only relevant question is "what do you mean god" (Do, You and Believe are relatively well defined) And Jordan's answer is "the zenith of your hierarchy of values" Well, then thats a tautologie... Of course He believes in what he puts at the top of his hierarchy.

[@FrikInCasualMode]

When apologist starts with "I feel..." you can safely disregard everything that follows as an ass-pull.

[@InigoMontoya-]

It has to be based on feelings, because there are definitely no facts.

[@CB66941]

So... anecdotal experiences. And vibes. That's Justin's strongest point. Also Ayaan Hirsi Ali reminds me so much of Simon Magus, who was only interested in power. And yet Christians celebrate her, even though she doesn't actually believe in the core tenets of what we colloquially call Christianity.

[@misterdeity]

I have a couple videos on her coming later this month. You’ll enjoy them.

[@melbied6215]

Yeah. Unlike most apologists, I don’t pretend to read minds (you just wanted to sin), but I’m highly suspect of her “conversion”. I think she saw Jordan Peterson and thought “I can do THAT and not outright lie and make a ton of money.”

[@kellydalstok8900]

When she was still living in The Netherlands Hirsi Ali was always on tv, but by the time she left not so much. I think her conversion has a lot to do with the waning public interest in her, which is linked to the increased income it generated of course.

[@knarf_on_a_bike]

If Justin believes in a god with no evidence, it makes sense he believes in pretty much anything else he wants without evidence.

[@misterdeity]

Yes, that is the beauty of it. Want is primary! And thanks so much! I’m sending you blessings and indulgences.

[@rickskeptical]

I was two hard beers into the video and had almost missed the excusegist methodology of listing items. Had to rewind and it was worth it. Thank you so very much for helping me deal with leaving Mormanism for all these years. Your videos, sir, are a national treasure, not unlike pearls thrown before the christian nationalist swine. You have helped me laugh at my previously propped pernicious presumptions. Thank you from the bottom of my unbelieving heart.

[@misterdeity]

One of my favorite comments ever! Posted it to my patrons so they know that we're still making a difference. Blessings are headed your way!

[@ushere5791]

peterson's "reasoning" is so far beyond the pale that he has no business even attempting to use language because he clearly has no idea how language works. that clip sounded like a monty python skit in the making....

[@misterdeity]

Absolutely!!! LOL! ❤

[@TheAntiburglar]

My favorite thing about Jordan Peterson's absolutely pathetic attempt to obfuscate his way through a simple question is that, linguistically, the word "do" in that phrase in English is actually quite literally meaningless. It's called "meaningless do" and it's an element of a small number of languages, most notably English and some Celtic languages, from which English likely adopted it.

[@Stupidityindex]

It takes outrageous gall, ultimate audacity, to express knowing something of a deity. The great evil of faith is it serving as a mask for insanity & authoritarians.

[@LogicAndReason2025]

Religion is the original PT Barnum effect.

[@aubreyleonae4108]

I hope that Alex has recovered from this interaction.

[@simonhadley8829]

There are liars, damned liars and Christians.

[@Ex_christian]

Christian cultists…..

[@pefo1674]

"There are liars, damned liars and" religions... Fixed it...

[@BeenDownSoLong...]

Maybe he thinks the polls are referring to an increase in the number of Nuns.

[@DigitalGnosis]

The Surprising Rebirth is absolute copium. Guy who only talks to Theists opines about how he is talking to lots of Theists, so there are lots of Theists LMAO

[@misterdeity]

Love your stuff!!! Big fan. James too. The two of you together…? Absolute gold!!!

[@AssassinoJake]

It remibds me of when my dad was beratting me for being lazy. He told me "I spoke to someone you know and told them how lazy you've been and they said 'wow, sounds like he needs a boot up the rear'." At the time i was very easilly set off by harsh words and it made me feel so ahshamed of myself and i needed yo know who said that(because he fidnt give a name). When i asked who said that, he said "thats not important." Looking back at that, many years later, i cant help but realise he might have been full of poo. Like the apologists in this video.

[@misterdeity]

I would put money on it!!!

[@AssassinoJake]

Why can I never spell anything right in my comments here? XD

[@beaurex4756]

As recently as the early 1990s, about 90% of U.S. adults identified as Christians. In 2007 the share was at 78%. Today, that number is down to 64%. Since 2007, the share of adults who identify as religious “nones” has grown from 16% to 29%. - Pew Research

[@teleiosdawyz4044]

Your outro music draws me in so much that my head keeps up the trumpet untill the end of the bit. If there's a fuller version beyond the dozen or so notes in my imagination I'd like to hear it just to find out how chose l am.

[@misterdeity]

It’s royalty free music that comes with Final Cut Pro. I honestly don’t know if there’s a longer version.

[@rogernull6151]

Jordan reminds me of Bill Clinton. "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is." The real question is, define God. I realized that everyone's definition is unique to them. Which means: We all made up God in our own minds. That's when I became an atheist.

[@misterdeity]

Great point!!!

[@InigoMontoya-]

I have been reading “The Surprising Rebirth of Illiteracy,” and I joined the movement; but now I can’t finish the book.

[@misterdeity]

OMG!!! That is sofa king funny!!! ❤❤❤

[@poigntless]

God serves no purpose, but to embolden the indefensible, and allow you to feel that death isn't real.

[@InigoMontoya-]

Death is not real. No one has come back to dispute this.

[@poigntless]

​@@InigoMontoya- They don't believe in death. Their tears and fears are meaningless.

[@kellydalstok8900]

Death is very real. This weekend my cousin’s 26 year old son died. My (atheist) aunt asked me if maybe there IS something of us that survives death. I told her: how can there be when our thoughts and memories are made in the brain, and when that dies our essence gone. If that seems cruel to you, know that 10 1/2 years ago, almost to the day, my 25 year old son died. I miss him terribly, but have no problem with never seeing him again. The thought of having to exist a never ending eternity somewhere is the most horrific idea humanity has ever come up with. By the way, I also told my aunt that the dead live on in our memories. By talking about them we keep them alive.

[@poigntless]

@@kellydalstok8900 Thank you for your thoughtful reply. People really don't understand the eldritch horror they're subscribing to in order to deny death. I like to think of life as a static mark on time; we are not here to experience all of it, but our small presence is felt eternally, or at least until the heat death of the universe.

[@JHWH213]

Do they not realise how absurd they sound, or do they not care?

[@kellydalstok8900]

They really are clueless.

[@blahblingo7605]

Yes.

[@MrCyclist]

Poor Justin. The more he talks the sillier he sounds to critical critical thinkers but he is the cat's meow to non critical thinkers, i.e. Christians. They happen to be the ones to buy his silly books.

[@drawn2myattention641]

Justin Brierley is a chucklehead.

[@auldlangsign3179]

Amazing what some will cling to when their income depends on it.

[@blairmcian]

That ridiculous Jordan Peterson clip never gets old!

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

So,… let me guess: Brierley had a book deal and needed to come up with something, anything, to satisfy the contract terms? Unbelievable.

[@misterdeity]

It’s his contractually obligated book? LOL!!!

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

@@misterdeity Let me correct what might be a misconception: I’m NOT saying Brierley wrote this book to satisfy a publishing contract. I am merely speculating. I don’t know Brierley, and I don’t know anything about any book contracts. It just seems to me that writing something as ridiculous as this speaks more to economic necessity than any other motivation. The way recording artists sometimes put out music just to satisfy record company contract demands. That’s all.

[@c.a.t.732]

I love the "I Can't Believe It's Not Bulls**t!" looks on the faces of Alex O'Connor and the lady on the right in the clip starting at the 1:49 mark.

[@condorboss3339]

Yes, Alex was working hard not to scream.

[@KeithCooper-Albuquerque]

Great video, Brian! I so love your content!

[@misterdeity]

I appreciate that so much!!! ❤

[@eltullis]

Now I have to listen to get Alex’s take on this

[@TheOwlman]

Jordan Peterson, the epitome of obfuscation. If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance...

[@grafpoo]

at least jordan peterson knows what "in" means

[@marcdc6809]

I had a feeling he already gave up on that one concept of 'in' from his 7 dimensional outlook on reality :)

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i'm surprised he puts clothes on or agrees his name is jordan.

[@blahblingo7605]

​@@HarryNicNicholashe sounds like a sov-cit🤣 Fing insufferable.

[@jjerg]

Obviously. He has a profound understanding and connection with many 'ins'. In-competence In-sane In-consequential In-comprehension In-effective In-considerate In-appropriate and In-flammatory. 🤓

[@blahblingo7605]

@@jjerg In-a bottle of pills In-a coma...

[@nerfzombie6242]

That Peterson clip is truly one of the dumbest things I have ever seen/heard! I've seen the clip dozens of times, and it still leaves me slack jawed every damn time! WTAF!?!

[@Wertbag99]

Here in NZ, we had a census in 2023 for which the data is finally being released. The bit of good news is that religious affiliation continues its downward trend. People responding "No religion": 2013 - 41.9% 2018 - 48.2% 2023 - 51.6% Those declaring themselves Christian were down from 36.5% in 2018 to 32.3%, or 102,000 less total people. Other religions grew, but are small in total, with Hindu up from 2.6% to 2.9%, and Islam up from 1.3% to 1.5%.

[@robertlight5227]

Thank God! Lolol.

[@pauligrossinoz]

The sad part about those statistics is that the Christians will claim that "Islam is the fastest growing religion" (1.2 to 1.5, or +0.3, which is nearly a 16% rise in the raw numbers), and so press the panic button while blaming secularism for being "supportive of Islam". But tiny increases from a tiny base always show up as a large percentage increase. This is despite the raw numbers showing a much greater increase in number of people choosing "No Religion" - more than 11 times the raw number increase compared to Islam.

[@sbushido5547]

_"Intellectuals who are more sympathetic to Christianity, like..."_ Don't say Jordan Peterson. Don't say Jordan Peterson. Don't say Jordan Peterson. _"...Jordan Peterson!"_ Aaaarrgh...

[@RamadaDiver]

@@sbushido5547 Douglas Murray Ruchard Dawkins . Elon musk . Tom Holland. Etc

[@latheofheaven1017]

How on Earth is Peterson thought of as an intellectual? He's taking the piss surely? The only thing that's more ridiculous than Peterson himself is people who think he has anything useful to say about anything.

[@sbushido5547]

@@RamadaDiver So...more "anti-woke" losers? That's not better. But I do hope you're not implying that Musk is an "intellectual." (though I don't know about that Tom Holland, but if he's being grouped with the rest of them, it doesn't bode well for him)

[@darrennew8211]

@@latheofheaven1017 You need to listen to him talk about things he knows about, like helping people with problems. Don't listen to him trying to justify his brainwashing, which comes across terrible exactly because he's a pretty smart guy.

[@stevewebber707]

@@darrennew8211 I guess just make sure you don't consult Peterson if you happen to be gay? I know Peterson is no idiot, but that makes it that much harder to swallow his support of conversion therapy.

[@InigoMontoya-]

I am going to start writing books about the huge popularity of the things I like, just so people don’t think I am weird for participating. Wait until you read about how many people now practice and love clothing-optional power drinking at movie theaters. I interviewed myself for most of the data.

[@misterdeity]

I really need you on my writing staff… Which doesn’t actually exist. It’s just me. LOL!!!

[@InigoMontoya-]

On your writing staff? Is that a euphemism? …. I accept. You know what they say; “Once you try writing staffs, you’ll never have better laughs” - or something like that.

[@patrickmclaren4360]

Brierley book will be required reading in Florida and Texas probably this upcoming semester

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i was hard atheist until i heard that just recently there are talking cats and dogs in springfield ohio.

[@laurajarrell6187]

Mr.Deity, Brian, superb! Yes, I saw you've posted in my early privilege, but my phone is messing with me, so I'll still watch here, where I can comment. At least sometimes! So, has this guy taken into account it's not a tide so much as christofascists fearing the loss of their privilege? And the 'useful idiots' that carry water for them? Plus the mew profits, oh I mean, prophets getting a lot of coverage for their stocastic terror? 👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌

[@HarryNicNicholas]

the latest PRRI polls shows in the US the "nones" combined with atheists is now pretty much equal to christians.

[@Styphon]

"What does 'Do' mean?" Did this guy study Clinton?

[@misterdeity]

LOL! He comes from the land of the linguistically clueless - just like Bill.

[@maxdoubt5219]

What would I accept as evidence for your god? The same you would accept as evidence for a god _other than yours._

[@pauligrossinoz]

*Brilliant!* I'm going to use this from now on. Thank you! 😁👍

[@mcarp555]

More than a decade ago, we saw the rise of "new atheism", which was just a vocal outcry against belief that was never possible before, thanks to the Internet. The "new" atheists had the resources and connections to allow us to consolidate and share arguments, which scared and annoyed believers. So the "new atheist" label was applied to distinguish between the "old atheists", who were apparently fewer in number, less vocal and were frankly, steamrollered by the powerful voices of faith. What we're seeing now with people like Brierley is a form of "new theism", in which they start to exploit those same resources to try and unite other believers. It's a PR response to Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens (and now people like Alex O'Connor, Matt Dillahunty, Aron Ra and others). But the major difference is that they simply don't have any new evidence, ideas or validity to share. Someone who questioned the existence of a deity ten years ago could find support to bolster their suspicions; a "new theist" can only regurgitate the same old tired nonsense: the Kalaam, the watchmaker argument, fine-tuning and the like. Along with that perennial favourite, just say it until you (and those around you) believe it. Ultimately, people like Brierley and several other apologists are just the friendly face of Christian Nationalism; they provide the outward appearance of rational thinking, but right behind them are the people who want to put prayer in schools, the ten commandments in courtrooms, and their nosy little faces in our bedrooms. William Lane Craig looks like anyone's grandpa, until you realize that the day he thinks god commands him to shoot up a school, he will do it, no questions asked.

[@misterdeity]

SO WELL SAID!!!! ❤❤❤

[@chrisose]

Justin Brierley, jumping on the fact free apologetics gravy train with real fervor. Not like he has ever been an unbiased moderator on his channel, often putting a thumb, palm or one ton weight on the scale to favor the theist side of the debates held there.

[@FractalFire]

Lol his "evidence" is that he took a metaphor too literally. 😂

[@beaurex4756]

Faith: not wanting to know what is true.

[@kentjensen5216]

The biggest problem with religion is that each and every person belonging to a particular religion prays to their unique god which they believe belongs to their religion and that god then informs them that their religion is the only true one upon the Earth. In its most benign form nothing transpires which threatens anyone, in its most evil form, people fly airplanes into skyscrapers in New York City.

[@calasia7896]

Ah, anecdotal evidence.🤨 Sounds like wishul thinking to me.

[@fishhy9720]

Brierley loves his Christianity so much he wants it to be true, with or without evidence.

[@istvansipos9940]

a person in the 21st century? I think he just loves the fact that a myth sells well.

[@ritawing1064]

@fishhy9720 amusingly, Brierley has right-wing extremists on his programme, at least one of whom would have disqualified Brierley's own wife from her profession. She is a CofE vicar.

[@Gratefulapostate]

I guess that Ayan Hirsi Ali thinks we can't fight a stupid ideology without our own stupid ideology?

[@misterdeity]

You fight hell fire with hell fire!

[@canwelook]

Yeah. She wants to fight superstition with more superstition.

[@RustyWalker]

Rise of the Nuns? A horror flick in black, white, and green. Sympathetic to Christianity, or to secular and moderate Christians? It's the latter because everyone's sick of the fundies, evangies, and literalies.

[@CafeteriaCatholic]

Converts like Ali prove how dire the situation is for christianity. The church of the old days would have forced her to wear a penitential.

[@InfernalAlgorithms]

Will these two souls find divine enlightenment or get roasted in the flames of skepticism? 🔥

[@Wu-wei_Pete]

Brian..."Dude", if I may call you Dude, why are you not intensely famous? ...At least to the same degree as other "famous" modern day Philosophical Entertainers? Seriously. You should be up there on stage with Sammy Harris (we are good buddys, he insists that I call him that), Alex "How could you walk away from being vegan after having made the realization that we all feel pain and just want to feel love and understanding " O'Conner (yes there is a great deal of disappointment there)-Mr. Low Bar, Cranky Frankie Turek, Jordan "WTF happened to this friggin guy" Peterson. You should be up there with the Good Guys (yeah, yeah it's all subjective I know...but we super geniuses know it's true 😊) giving the "bad" guys hell 😂. You express yourself so clearly and in an amazingly entertaining way. Anyhow 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🧙🏽‍♂️🖖🏽🧠

[@anticommutative]

Agreed! I'm shocked he's not more popular!

[@misterdeity]

We are all in agreement! D’oh!!! thanks so much for the kind words.

[@Wu-wei_Pete]

@@misterdeity A Justice League for Philosophical Super Geniuses?!!! I see you more as the Batman in the group only because he is technically the "smartest" amongst us, and that would make me the Superman...after all I am amazingly Jacked (for a 63 yr old Kung-fu master who is 1/4 Vulcan, incredibly charming and handsome....oh and modest as well). We can fill in the rest of the team later...being Batman I know you know...people. When you figure out a plan let me know. Sincerely, Pete "Sparg of Vulcan" Doonis, A.K.A. "Master of Moderation"

[@andrewlucas744]

If Justin is convinced the tide of faith is about to come in at any minute, he might want to listen to David Voas, on why there is no way back for religion in the West. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6Wkg5KFfN-fmcksi=fbmfUdTobEsrVgjl

[@mikelaw8682]

I am definitely sympathetic to people who have delusional beliefs.

[@andrewanastasovski1609]

Nobody buys things like believers.

[@donaldnumbskull9745]

I think Justin's correct to the extent that there's a bit of a bandwagon that celebs, influencers and talking heads are jumping on, but there's no incoming tide of Christianity. Which is nice.😉

[@tomsenior7405]

Is Jordan Peterson French Canadian then? His lack of understanding of the English Language would suggest so.

[@richardb1949]

What the fuck does Jordon mean 😂🤣

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

He means that he does not believe in any god but stopped saying it in public after the first and only time he gave a straight answer. Are you a Christian? Do you believe in God? - Christie Blatchford I think the proper response to that is No, but I’m afraid He might exist. - Jordan Peterson

[@chrisgrill6302]

What do you mean by "fuck"?

[@misterocain]

@@chrisgrill6302 You beat me to it.

[@InigoMontoya-]

The post modern neomarxist manifestation of bovine excrement is overwhelming to aural recipients of the audibly verbal representations of Peterson’s interpretations of our societal norms and the fluctuations of moral hierarchies in a historical context, and our obligations to suspend disbelief in a being that represents our mystical yearning for domination.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@InigoMontoya- Perhaps it is a yearning for Geppeto and Pinocchio as JP uses the Disney movie to explain how boys should grow up. In a college class.

[@ZenWithKen]

You mean I just get to make shit up an not support it and it's socially acceptable and they give me money...sign me up!

[@pauligrossinoz]

No. There's more to it than that. Christians will easily part with their hard earned money to feel some sort of reassurance. That's the whole point of Justin's book. Justin finally understood the real point of the Christian con-job after years of hosting interviews, and now he's jumped on the gravy train! He's thrown honesty out of the window for that cold hard cash!

[@ZenWithKen]

@@pauligrossinoz So what you're saying, is he's following Jordan Peterson's path to riches. What do you mean by gravy? What do you mean by train? 🙂

[@pauligrossinoz]

@@ZenWithKen- haha yeah! They've figured out that Christians are desperate for validation because their religious beliefs lack empirical support, and so they'll happily pay for that validation. 🙄 Sad, really.

[@magepunk2376]

The sooner religion can be gone, the better.

[@Aristocratic_Utensil]

Kid lemme give you some advice. In life you will ALWAYS serve a master, and you have a choice of 4; God, Wealth, Impulse or the State. If you don't pick for the former; any of the other 3 WILL become your god. Most likely; the state.

[@oscargr_]

​@@Aristocratic_UtensilFalse polychotomy. There are quite a few other things that you can serve. And if you choose "god", a whole new book of options opens up for you to choose from. And there

[@istvansipos9940]

@@Aristocratic_Utensil "you have a choice of 4; God, Wealth, Impulse or the State" and from those 4, Homo Sapiens can demonstrate only Nr 2, 3, and 4. What is the g0d thingie / force / power / stuff / something you indoctrinat... I mean, religious folk keep ranting about? (NOT a rhetorical question) And why don't you mention any other deity? (rhetorical question. You special plead on a disgusting level, of course)

[@Aristocratic_Utensil]

@@istvansipos9940 Because in the absence of God you will worship man, who run on power... and you will be abused for it; look at the Soviet Union. Where do you draw your morality from? Materialism? Give me a break

[@istvansipos9940]

@@Aristocratic_Utensil since you cannot explain the g0d, let alone DEMONSTRATE the g0d, the absence of this g0d... thingie is the default position. It is like the absence of Zeus, Ra, Tinkerbell, or Kii'takkrah. For sane adults, that is. of course, once you manage to demonstrate the g0d stuff, mankind will be able to investigate whether morality comes from the g0d thingie. Then the exact mechanism HOW morality moves from the g0d into humans, etc etc etc. Currently, all the g0d fans are at step 0 in this process.

[@marshallmkerr]

Bueller has taken the day off, misterdeity. Carry on with the students actually in attendance!

[@misterdeity]

D’oh!!! That just makes me wanna… twist and shout!!!

[@timothymulholland7905]

Richard Dawkins didn't convert to anything. He said he was a cultural Christian because it pervades the culture of the UK. Peterson said other people need religion so as to have a source for morality.

[@misterdeity]

In his conversation with Sam Harris, he said that it’s the stupid people who need religion. And he may not be wrong.

[@tarp-grommet]

The Gallup data may shock anyone who thinks there is a Christian resurgence. Only 4% of Gen Z ( age 12 to 30) go to church.

[@misterdeity]

@@tarp-grommet In one of the Nordic countries, the percentage of young people who believe in God (I think it was 18-26yo?) was 0%!!!

[@jon-paulmattack1152]

To quote a philosopher from a famous historical documentary about the rise of a new religion, "He's making it up as he goes along!" The exact thesis if Justin's book?

[@Zahaqiel]

So, minor correction: a few people have died and then spontaneously come back independently of resuscitation efforts and after being declared medically dead. It's called Lazarus syndrome, there have been at least 38 cases since 1982. The record setting case was in 2008, a woman was clinically dead for 17 hours (including no detection of brain activity) before spontaneously re-animating. As far as I know however, there haven't been any cases of Lazarus syndrome involving gaping torso wounds and complete exsanguination though - as the Bible reports was supposedly the case for Jesus. Also angelic apparitions tend not to herald their re-awakening.

[@martifingers]

Interesting for sure. 17 hours is well short of 3 days of course.

[@Zahaqiel]

@@martifingers ...Three days? If you're executed Friday afternoon, and resuscitate on Sunday morning, that's not even 48 hours. Early Christians were apparently _very bad at mathematics_ since they say "three days and three nights" and then describe a situation which isn't even three full days and two nights. But yes, 48 hours is a lot longer than the record-setting case. And the Bible says he fully bled out. And he was supposedly capable of walking around on punctured feet/ankles for days/weeks afterwards with no issue. And people could shove their hands into the gaping wound on his side without causing him issues. None of those descriptions seem within the scope of Lazarus syndrome. Same goes for light afternoon zombie uprisings upon determination of clinical death - not a standard symptom of Lazarus syndrome.

[@misterdeity]

@@martifingersRemember what Mr. Deity told Jesse - it’s 36 hours tops. 35 if we do it the week they set the clocks back. And yes, I know setting the clocks back would make it 37 hours. But it’s Mr. Deity. He gets nothing right!

[@roqsteady5290]

Justin may well hark back to nineteenth century poets, such as Arnold (Shelley was another), because that was when biblical literalism lost it's respectability amongst rational people. Today, we laugh behind our hands, when people profess to such absurd beliefs, although it isn't politically correct to admit that..

[@istvansipos9940]

- Sir, do you think that at least 1 deity exists? - No, I do not. is the 2nd line of this dialogue the new or the old atheism, for fox ache? I just wanna know what type I "worship".

[@DawnDavidson]

“For Fox ache” 😂😂😂

[@alchobum]

What could be fun is pointing out that he is right as in the UK belief in a god is rising year over year. A god named Allah by the way. That could cause a bit of a reaction.

[@misterdeity]

I’m working on a video for next month with that point. I briefly touch on that in this one at the 6:17 mark.

[@paineoftheworld]

The point of tides...fekking hilarious.

[@BubbaF0wpend]

Oh JB 🤦‍♂️ 'Excusegist ordinaire'😅

[@markgordon5266]

It's waning dogs and cats...I mean, they're eating dogs and cats! Yeah, that's the ticket. btw, cool Peter Gabriel ref. At 74, he can still bring it without having to lower the original key of a song.

[@misterdeity]

Saw Peter and Sting together a few years back. They both brought it. One of my favorite shows ever! I’m still a huge classic Genesis fan.

[@markgordon5266]

@@misterdeity Man, now that's a dynamic duo! And Genesis were excellent, for sure.

[@mattfoley6082]

"Christian science"...is that anything like "theistic evolution"? On nights I can't sleep I sometimes watch tv and I see ads by Christian book publishers looking for writers. Yeah, just what we need more of. re rebirth of belief in god, they just razed an old Catholic high school near me that closed due to declining Catholicism.

[@roqsteady5290]

Christian "science" is an oxymoron.

[@autonomouscollective2599]

Christian Science is another Christian sect. They believe in the power of prayer and refuse medical intervention when they’re sick. And this applies to their children as well. So it’s just another weird and dangerous religious cult.

[@misterdeity]

Hallelujah!!!

[@M3Etasmania]

Thanks Me.

[@chagadelica]

I blame atmospheric lead poisoning from auto emissions

[@johndemeritt3460]

The tide of faith has gone out and this guy thinks it's coming back in. Hmmmmm . . . . Could it be that the ice wall of organized religion is melting around the flat Earth of his religious world and the tide of faith is pouring out over the edge? I wonder . . . . Oh, one more thing . . . Brian, you attributed the "Lies, damned lies and statistics" quote to Benjamin Disraeli (whose "Gears" album made Cream famous), and I have little doubt the British PM used it at least once. But when my wife went to Manpower Management school, those were the first words out of the instructor's mouth -- except the instructor attributed the quote to Mark Twain. I'll have to check up on that, and if I owe you an apology for doubting your research, I'll be sure to let you know! Publicly. Right here.

[@misterdeity]

I looked into the quote years ago and came to believe it was not Mark Twain. I’d been attributing the quote to him forever. It certainly sounds like him. Let me know what you find out.

[@jujjuj7676]

I wouldnt say rebirth, id define it more like pigs squeeling real loud before they die sorta thing. 😊

[@autonomouscollective2599]

Those fake book covers are a work of satirical art!

[@RobertTamlyn]

Thanks!

[@misterdeity]

Is that a two dollars with Trump’s face on it? LOL! Thanks so much!!! Blessings are on their way.

[@kenbattor6350]

Facts and evidence are the work of the Devil!

[@mistahtom]

Fun fact, the Hebrew word for opposition/adversary is satan. So you’re logically correct.