WOTM: The Bar Hits Infinitely Low, Part VI

  Рет қаралды 9,185

misterdeity

misterdeity

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 476
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
Due to the nature of this content, I'm unable to monetize this series of videos, so anything you can do to help out will be greatly appreciated. I also want to apologize for the somewhat lackluster performance. I've been suffering severe back pain with two slipped disks. On the upside, since the content keeps these videos from monetization, I've left in the harsh language - which I know you'll all enjoy! UPDATE: On top of the slipped disks, I apparently have some form of anemia which is draining me of all my energy (and will to live). It's possibly related to a bone marrow disease I have (Essential Thrombocythemia) or the chemo I've been taking for the last ten years to combat that disease. Trying to figure out the treatment. Your thoughts and prayers will be greatly appreciated, if entirely useless.
@LordSlag
@LordSlag 8 ай бұрын
I'm subscribed and always upvote and comment. I wish I had money to spare to give you.
@ChristopherCurtis
@ChristopherCurtis 8 ай бұрын
Hey Brian - I was going to make a snarky remark about you seeming upset at 6:55, but I'm genuinely sorry to read about your travails here. I don't watch every video but enjoyed what I saw of the Mr. Deity series and I'm glad you're still able to put in the effort. As I once heard Trae Crowder remark, "Existence is a nightmare, love ya like chicken." Best wishes.
@mcarp555
@mcarp555 8 ай бұрын
Bri, take a break if you need to. We love you and I will hope you improve and that your doctors know best.
@jdm5570
@jdm5570 8 ай бұрын
Take your time and find your health. Love your work!!!
@miguenzo
@miguenzo 8 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your pain. I will pray to the one true god- Zeus⚡️
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 8 ай бұрын
Imagine somebody bursts into WLC's house, brandishing a sledgehammer, and saying "God commanded your death." Do you think Bill would say "Well, if God says so…"? Or would he try to fight back?
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 8 ай бұрын
Craig addresses Alex O’Connor’s obviously profound and sincere discomfort with his moral claim not by approaching the problem from a different angle, or elaborating in some way upon what he had just said. You can’t even rightfully say that he doubles-down. He just simply repeats his position, almost literally word-for-word, I guess implying that Alex and the rest of us heathen moral relativists are just too thick or too stubborn to get it. It’s really beyond belief.
@moviesthroughtheyears
@moviesthroughtheyears 8 ай бұрын
WLC has always been a fanatic that could make himself sound like a thoughtful person. This shows him to be what he really is, a potential maniac who uses his language ability to make the reprehensible sound like the salvation of humanity
@katherineg9396
@katherineg9396 8 ай бұрын
Voltaire was right. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
@tomschmidt381
@tomschmidt381 8 ай бұрын
I applaud Alex for being able to maintain his composure talking to low bar Bill.
@ominous-omnipresent-they
@ominous-omnipresent-they 8 ай бұрын
I can only hope Bill never hears that same "command" in his head.
@hermione3muller674
@hermione3muller674 8 ай бұрын
„A fate worse than heaven“ - good point.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 8 ай бұрын
In other words genocide is a okay as long as his invisible sky wizard says so🤦🏿‍♂️
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
Isn't that what they all say?
@billmcdonald4335
@billmcdonald4335 8 ай бұрын
If I was alone in a forest, I'd feed Low Bar to the frikkin' bear.
@squarehead6c1
@squarehead6c1 8 ай бұрын
I listened to the full interview with WL Craig. I thought he had mispoken earlier about the "moral" of genocide. But he doubled-down in the most terrible way. I was left shocked. It was so disturbing. I have never seen any "better" example of the dangers of religious dogma.
@oscargr_
@oscargr_ 8 ай бұрын
Who cares about the babies, as long as "God loves Bill Craig"
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 8 ай бұрын
2:57 LBB says, in his theology, the children go immediately to heaven to be with God, Just where in the Bible does it say that, Bill? This is nothing but an attempt to sugarcoat a plain abomination.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 8 ай бұрын
and they we killed because they were sinners - how does that work if they wind up in heaven? this is the crappiest drivel ever.
@moodyrick8503
@moodyrick8503 8 ай бұрын
*Empty excuses for a corrupt God ;* Made all the worse by Bill's _smiling face & smug attitude._
@CharlesPayet
@CharlesPayet 8 ай бұрын
Best wishes for your physicians to find a solution soon, @misterdeity ! You’re a real treasure, and we want you around and healthy for a long time to come!
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
Awww!!! Thanks so much! You’ve made my fortnight!
@moodyrick8503
@moodyrick8503 8 ай бұрын
*Andrea Yates : **_A kind Loving Mother_** ?* (huge sacrifice) She killed her 5 young children to guarantee them a spot in heaven. _(powerful love)_ _The logic is unassailable._ (WTF ?)
@randallflynn3772
@randallflynn3772 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I don't know how to lower the bar any further with wild Bill's insane double speak in an effort to make the Bible not look like, well, the Bible.
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
Hitch bless you!!! Thanks so much!
@TM2086
@TM2086 8 ай бұрын
The "funny" thing is that Craig sounds like he would be a perfect apologist for people practicing the Moloch sacrifice and he doesn't even notice it or doesn't care.
@oscargr_
@oscargr_ 8 ай бұрын
- Humans sacrifice babies for god: bad - God sacrifice babies for god: better for the babies. That's professional philosophy.
@georgem2334
@georgem2334 8 ай бұрын
Low Bar Bill's idea of a loving sky daddy sounds a lot like how my abusive father used to treat my mother and myself. He loves us but if we talk back to him or disobey him, he can take us out.
@Giuvannuzzeddu
@Giuvannuzzeddu 8 ай бұрын
Repugnant and revolting doesn't begin to describe this sickness...
@moodyrick8503
@moodyrick8503 8 ай бұрын
*_You Gotta Be Kidding Me_** ?* How could anyone, (Bill), stand in front of a children's cancer hospital and happily proclaim, don't worry it's all good, _cause they goin' to heaven._ Who cares about "temporary agony", when eternal paradise awaits ? *_Prove me wrong_** .*
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 8 ай бұрын
There is a saint who said the exact same thing... "Suffering brings them closer to Christ"... which is why she never built the hospital she promised she would if she ever received the funds... To claim she doesn't have the money, she sent that money to the Vatican instead (this meets the legal definition of fraud).
@Nymaz
@Nymaz 8 ай бұрын
"Great work, gang, we finally caught the spooky Divine Command theory ghost that's been haunting all those genocides. Lets see who it really is!" *rips off mask* "*gasp* Why that's just old man Might Makes Right morality!"
@hail_satan
@hail_satan 8 ай бұрын
And I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling skeptics using their brain instead of just accepting my absurd claims at face value! And the dog, too.
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 8 ай бұрын
@@hail_satan, Why bring the dog into this!?
@hail_satan
@hail_satan 8 ай бұрын
@@aralornwolf3140 ruh roh!
@AlexS-pv4rn
@AlexS-pv4rn 8 ай бұрын
This is a god who clearly does not value fairness in any way, shape or form. Truly, a character that utterly scorns the very idea of justice and equity. No matter how you twist the definition of good or right, without that as a core component, that cannot ever apply to the god of the bible.
@skidmo
@skidmo 8 ай бұрын
With all the bending and stretching done, Cirque du Soleil should hire low bar Bill.
@itsjustameme
@itsjustameme 8 ай бұрын
Psalms 137:9 King James Version (KJV) Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones Against the stones.
@Mythraen
@Mythraen 8 ай бұрын
2:57 William Lane Craig casually, without recognizing what he's doing (I hope), just made an argument in favor of _all_ child murder. But, I'm sure he's against abortion.
@danieltempas6062
@danieltempas6062 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! i mentioned this just a couple of minutes before you did.
@Mythraen
@Mythraen 8 ай бұрын
​@@danieltempas6062 If it's a top-level comment, I'm afraid KZbin zapped it, my man. I'm honestly surprised they didn't zap mine. -I sorted comments by newest, and besides my own, the newest are 20 hours old.- I don't know what just happened, but that was not correct. Anyway, now that I've got it right, I still don't see yours.
@janmillerstopmotion
@janmillerstopmotion 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 7 ай бұрын
Thank YOU!!! Blessings are yours.
@81caspen
@81caspen 8 ай бұрын
I’m sorry. I started watching and I will probably finish watching this later, but I find I haven’t got the stomach for the simpering and plain mean-spirited mendacity of No-Bar Billy right now.
@msdaphne
@msdaphne 8 ай бұрын
I literally just put it on mute and let it run. Because I can't listen to the gruesome game.
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
Totally understandable. If you want, press play and then just walk away.
@msdaphne
@msdaphne 8 ай бұрын
This is so important, to take it all the way to the end. It's just so...ick
@AnnoyingNewsletters
@AnnoyingNewsletters 8 ай бұрын
​@@misterdeity I saw this comment on an Exmo channel and thought you'd get a chuckle out of it: nomadicam. 3mo ago _We use foremon but I want morphan to catch on, because when you leave it often feels like you were orphaned._
@SouthernMenace
@SouthernMenace 8 ай бұрын
Craig's got one shtick, and he'll take it to the grave, no matter what.
@karnobot9814
@karnobot9814 8 ай бұрын
Under divine command God wrongs nobody. At one time Alex asked: how do you know ? Low bar: That question is not interesting to me.
@boxcardboard5594
@boxcardboard5594 8 ай бұрын
Just note, at the time that story, the Hebrew faith and religious philosophy did not include the idea of “heaven”.
@chriswest8389
@chriswest8389 6 ай бұрын
Forgot about that. What bill doesn’t realize is that those poor Canaanite babies did not go to heaven. They need ‘ seasoning ‘,. The suffering theodicy in my opinion is the only thing that Christian’s can use to explain why God didn’t use his pre knowledge to avoid the fall. Babies need to stick arround this world till they can freely reject or except christ. Chances R- many R called few R chosen, most of em ended up in hell after they died( permanatly ) after the age of accountability.
@deafwhiterandy
@deafwhiterandy 8 ай бұрын
Perfect rebuttal to all this insanity Brian. Thanks!
@bananaslug.1951
@bananaslug.1951 8 ай бұрын
Would his idea that killing children is glorifying them not make abortion morally acceptable?
@rickparker4047
@rickparker4047 8 ай бұрын
So the BABIES were SINFUL enough to kill, but not sinful enough to keep out of HEAVEN?
@RickGaudreau
@RickGaudreau 7 ай бұрын
Can't blame you for being disgusted by Low Bar Bill. I find this man so disgusting that I can't abide looking at him for too long, he makes me sick. I am SOOOO glad I abandoned the Christian faith some 26 years ago.
@MichaelWizard-dt9ve
@MichaelWizard-dt9ve 8 ай бұрын
Low bar Bill keeps digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole the more he talks!
@hermungus1
@hermungus1 5 ай бұрын
The video being responded to was the nail in the coffin for me.
@hermione3muller674
@hermione3muller674 8 ай бұрын
Did anyone tell Craig that his divine command theory is just a theory?
@vinny142
@vinny142 8 ай бұрын
"He wronged nobody" Circularity; god can do no wrong therefor everything he does is good therefor he can do no wrong. 3:00 "if god wants to take a life, that's his right" Mafia boss/might makes right. 3:01 "and the children immediately went to heaven" Self soothing. All of this leaves us with the problem that we cannot tell whether something is good or evil because we cannot ask god whether he commanded it or not. If a man starts shooting up a school declaring that he's doing it on god's command, should we stop him because we feel it's morally wrong for him to do that, or should we let him do it because it might actually be a command from god? If Bill answers "stop him, obviously", then why did nobody stop the slaughter of the Kananites? Oh because they thought it was a command from god? But this guy says he's doing it for god... so is it a matter of how many people are convinced that it's a command from god? Majority rules? I would LOVE to see Bill talk to a psychiatrist and really drill him to see how much of this are his actual beliefs and how much is just a front to maintain his position in the community.
@jimmythebold589
@jimmythebold589 8 ай бұрын
excellent comment. WLC is clearly a narcissist, even more than his rockstar incarnation, DLR (who at least is talented and has entertained millions of people, including myself) , he obviously loves the sound of his magnificent stentorian voice (i'll give him that; he has a fabulous baritone voice), so he'd never do an interview with a psychiatrist and be exposed as the psychopath that he clearly is...
@archivist17
@archivist17 8 ай бұрын
Does Bill not understand how the words he says make him sound? Or is he just a complete grifting monster? 🤔 Okay, I think I just answered my own question... 😞
@yaceya
@yaceya 8 ай бұрын
What I've just heard is not refuting the thesis that he defends genocide. The guy was given a proposition several times and conclusively responded: genocide is good, if it is done on God's command. I strongly suspect that it can even extend to "it is bad and immoral not to do genocide if genocide was ordered by God".
@EarnestApostate
@EarnestApostate 8 ай бұрын
I really couldn't imagine how Alex could mask his disgust throughout this interview. His ability to just keep feeding rope to LBB so he could keep tangling himself up was impressive. He didn't get to take breaks to vomit at the ideas being presented.
@jommeissner
@jommeissner 8 ай бұрын
It's crazy how calm Alex did stay
@DenisLoubet
@DenisLoubet 8 ай бұрын
Not even an expression of growing horror!
@FakingANerve
@FakingANerve 8 ай бұрын
Anyone who tries to include slaughtering babies under the definition of "good" should *never* be allowed to call themself a philosopher. Ever.
@doctabaldhead
@doctabaldhead 8 ай бұрын
Remember kids. Low bar Billy is propped up as being one of the best apologists out there. If that doesn't tell you something about the whole enterprise then I don't know what will.
@Kohout33
@Kohout33 8 ай бұрын
This is indeed some sick fucking shit, to the nth degree.
@graladue
@graladue 8 ай бұрын
One must also note that "they go to heaven" is not an out for LBB. Since it would be *vastly* more moral to just bring them directly to heaven *without experiencing being murdered (or cancer, or starving, or whatever) first* .
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 8 ай бұрын
Well... um... let god have his purity test first, okay?
@jasonsabbath6996
@jasonsabbath6996 8 ай бұрын
All theae things are wrong, unless the guy I worship does it, then it's absolutely fine and good. This is psychotic! Absolutely sick and anyone who defends this position is heinous and desrves prison! They will do ANYTHING so long as their god tells them to do it!
@Anony3141592
@Anony3141592 8 ай бұрын
"it slaughters the babies, or else it gets the hose again" -- Bluffalot Bill Craig's god.
@TofuMystic
@TofuMystic 8 ай бұрын
Wait....the children had to be executed because they were evil, but went directly to heaven because they were innocent? Uh, which is it?
@miguenzo
@miguenzo 8 ай бұрын
They’re going to hell because they were the wrong religion
@ushere5791
@ushere5791 8 ай бұрын
yeah, ya think? oh wait, of course you do! it's lbb who doesn't think.
@jonovens7974
@jonovens7974 8 ай бұрын
You're not supposed to ask both questions at the same time.....that's not fair.
@robertmiller9735
@robertmiller9735 8 ай бұрын
Whichever sounds best in the moment.
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
@@jonovens7974 LOL!!!
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 8 ай бұрын
How anyone can hear Craig run his mouth and not immediately say, "that's such sewage," is beyond me.
@PaulOfTheNorth
@PaulOfTheNorth 7 ай бұрын
Can I upvote this about a million times?
@flowingafterglow629
@flowingafterglow629 8 ай бұрын
3:30 Bill just gave the Andrea Yates defense.
@kc7476
@kc7476 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I swear the man doesn't even listen to the words coming out his own mouth 🙄
@flowingafterglow629
@flowingafterglow629 8 ай бұрын
@@kc7476 He's dug himself a hole so deep that he has to say this stuff because otherwise, he could never continue.
@mickqQ
@mickqQ 8 ай бұрын
What Bill is saying leaves him morally blind , he can’t say anything is right or wrong
@FakingANerve
@FakingANerve 8 ай бұрын
6:45 Someone pointing out ghe subtext of the 30 day period, and it's not for grieving... it's to make sure she isn't pregnant, because we know what happens to the girls who have "known man." Dark shit, eh?
@tommyvictorbuch6960
@tommyvictorbuch6960 8 ай бұрын
William Lane Craig is simply a horrible person doing his best to look good.
@piesho
@piesho 8 ай бұрын
The sickest shit Craig has ever said in his entire life starts at 2:28 and ends at 3:33
@kenbattor6350
@kenbattor6350 8 ай бұрын
WHAT?! Are you telling me that it isn't moral to slaughter native peoples and take their gold and land? But God is love.
@jimscott9974
@jimscott9974 8 ай бұрын
Nausea always sets in when I listen to WLC.
@Deinonuchus
@Deinonuchus 8 ай бұрын
It's the smug laughter in his voice as he explains away the deaths of innocent children that really makes me sick.
@jimscott9974
@jimscott9974 8 ай бұрын
@@Deinonuchus Smugness seems to be a common characteristic among Christians.
@billytheadult6247
@billytheadult6247 8 ай бұрын
This entire series has been timely and on point. Keep it up
@twentyofseven
@twentyofseven 8 ай бұрын
So why does'nt bill go to be with god...right now!
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! A couple of times there, Alex looked ready to hurl.
@BlazarAzul
@BlazarAzul 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, W. L. Craig, for your excellent work defaming Christianity.
@drlegendre
@drlegendre 8 ай бұрын
This is almost unbelievable.
@manuelbaez7148
@manuelbaez7148 8 ай бұрын
EFFIN BRUTAL FACTS! thank you brother for speaking for all of those who have been hurt, are being hurt now & will be hurt in the future by ghouls like this who think his sky daddy can do no wrong
@dragonfiremalus
@dragonfiremalus 8 ай бұрын
According to WLC, God does not wrong anyone when he orders the deaths of Canaanites. This shows just how disgusting his morality is in all circumstances, as according to him there is never an ethical obligation to another person, only to a "moral authority." So if I go steal from someone, I haven't wronged that person, I've only wronged God. That's seriously obscene.
@mikechang6737
@mikechang6737 8 ай бұрын
Its literal Jihad logic. If God permits you to kill it must be moral. Its not in God nature to do anything immoral, no matter what logic, reality, law or intuition says about the morality of an action, it must be moral if God sanctions it. Bill is literally using the exact same moral framework as every suicide bomber. The only difference is that they have different ideas of what atrocities God wants. Its the exact same moral framework and justification. Every time Bill says God must have some justification for slaughtering the canaanites and we should ignore all moral intuitions and reasoning... just substitute that for "blowing up childrens school" and ule see there is no difference between Bill's logic and that of Boko Haram. Its a perfect example of the moral and societal dangers of throwing away ur brain im favour of religious dogma. How historically and currently there is no more dangerous moral framework than thinking your are doing Gods commanded objective morality. Where anything can be justified because God is on your side.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 8 ай бұрын
The bar isnt low, it just about fits the Bill. :) If you were doing the limbo your buttcheeks would be scraping the 7th layer of hell.
@theoutspokenhumanist
@theoutspokenhumanist 8 ай бұрын
Powerful stuff and I agree 100%. How sick do you hav to be to excuse the murder of babies, with a smile, and even say it was a good thing?
@bigmax4564
@bigmax4564 8 ай бұрын
Someone tell me, how does WLC know that the killed children go directly to heaven? Is that him just making up a feel good pill to help justify the terrible shit he is talking about?
@oscargr_
@oscargr_ 4 ай бұрын
If god sent those babies to hell for eternity, that's still gods prerogative. You can't make up the stuff a professional philosopher makes up to defend a theory he holds on to. In his theory, it would be perfectly in line with god's perfectly loving nature.🤢
@jameschapman6559
@jameschapman6559 3 ай бұрын
But if they haven't accepted Jesus and been baptized. They are going to hell. And that would be gods purpose and will for them
@VictorBush-cx7sj
@VictorBush-cx7sj 8 ай бұрын
Note that in the Deuteronomy passage about taking female captive as a war bride after a month (that Dennis Praeger finds such a beautiful passage (Go Devils!)) only applies if the captor finds the woman beautiful. Based on how someone like Low Bar Bill will state that only mentioning one angel at Jesus' tomb in a given Gospel doesn't mean there wasn't another angel means that if the captor views a woman as ugly and he's just horny, then this restriction does not apply and he can go ahead and take her on the spot. Such a wonderful religion.....
@Kruppes_Mule
@Kruppes_Mule 8 ай бұрын
Regardless of if god commands it of you or not if you truly believe that by murdering babies they all go to heaven then would you not have some moral obligation to (even if it sacrifices your own eternity) murder as many as you possibly can? It's like the trolley problem where I'd be a monster if I stood by and let a hundred people die because I wouldn't sacrifice myself. Only literally infinitely worse.
@fixpontt
@fixpontt 8 ай бұрын
_"if you truly believe that by murdering babies they all go to heaven"_ he did not say that, he implied they go to heaven if God commanded their killings, it is not the same, therefore what you wrote does not follow, there is no universal teaching in christianty that all children go to heaven automatically and there is a direct commandment not to kill by your own, so what WLC said is perfectly logical and the conclusion follows if you accept the premises, if you dont accept the premises (god does not exist, the bible is literature, the massacre did not happen, etc.) there is no case at all
@Kruppes_Mule
@Kruppes_Mule 8 ай бұрын
@@fixpontt He doesn't imply it he says it directly. "on my theology these children go immediately to to Heaven they go to be with God". While he doesn't say all children go to heaven here it's easily found elsewhere. He says "I agree with your answer concerning the salvation of those who die in infancy" when asked on his website reasonable (HA!) faith. Take it up with LBB.
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 8 ай бұрын
@@fixpontt If there is a God and murdered babies (whose murder is not commanded by God) go to Hell, then God is even more of a monster than the Bible makes Him out to be. So, I suspect you're correct is suggesting that murdered babies don't necessarily go to heaven. But then, what kind of loving God doesn't command the murder of all babies, if that's what will send them immediately to Heaven? Any way you cut this, your God is an absolute monster. Well done!
@johnhunter9115
@johnhunter9115 8 ай бұрын
Thanks BriBri, this was an important series. I almost wish YHWH was real so that LBB would have to stand in front of it and hear "WTF Bill? Seriously??"
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!! I love those British pounds! 😉
@Modern-gu2it
@Modern-gu2it 8 ай бұрын
The bar goes so low that that the only way to go now is up yet amazingly just when it couldn't get any lower he some how breaks new levels. Wow.
@richardgardiner242
@richardgardiner242 8 ай бұрын
I've never understood this idea that children who go to heaven are in a wonderful place. What happens to 1 month old in heaven? Do they grow up? They're non-verbal, have no concepts other than I'm unhappy (I need food, or my diaper changed, or I hurt, or ...). Or I'm happy (I'm full, comfortable, and can see my mother). Ok, so they're presumably happy in heaven (always comfortable, fed, no diapers, etc) but possibly no mother. So do they become more fully human? Do they learn stuff? What about all the experiences they've missed, love, sex, becoming a parent, etc. Heaven just seems to be an eternity of a god induced zombie state, where, as a baby, they don't even have a lifetime of memories to look back on.
@idesel
@idesel 9 күн бұрын
This channel deserves way more views than it currently gets.
@thomasperri5316
@thomasperri5316 8 ай бұрын
Does Mr. Bill mix his own Kool-Aid? He's really not well.
@DeludedOne
@DeludedOne 8 ай бұрын
WlC is of the opinion that children go to heaven by default if they are murdered presumably on the basis of them being children. This doesn't track with original sin and conflicts with the theodicy of soul or saint building. However WLC also says that these murdered children go to a far better life than they otherwise would have had had they remained on this "corrupt and filthy world". Which prompts me to ask if WLC would be willing to personally send as many children as he possibly can to this far better life in paradise rather than remain here in this current filthy world even if the act would cost him his own place in that "better life". Of course why it would cost him his place when he's actually doing these children the greatest of favors according to him is not clear. If anything he should be even more garunteed of it for doing so. But his god does work in very mysterious ways so I hear.
@robertmiller9735
@robertmiller9735 8 ай бұрын
I don't think he cares, and is only saying that to sound a bit more palatable. In other company he probably says things completely opposite.
@whlewis9164
@whlewis9164 8 ай бұрын
what a disgusting “thought process”
@vaughnrees8908
@vaughnrees8908 8 ай бұрын
So God sends a baby to be born only to have it killed and then returned to heaven. What a hipocrit.
@greengelacid2061
@greengelacid2061 8 ай бұрын
Let’s try and remember that these lunatics also think the rape victim should raise the rapists child…the moral goodness just oozes from these people…
@jakerz0
@jakerz0 8 ай бұрын
“God wrongs no one”?! Man this guy is a bullshit goldmine. 2:30 in and I’m already pausing to write a second comment. He’s saying god *definitionally* wrongs no one because he’s perfectly moral, just and loving. But when confronted with clearly immoral, unjust and unloving acts and commands of god, he reasons that this can’t be what it seems because god is definitionally moral. Talk about circular fucking reasoning. If you start with the presupposition that god is a priori perfectly moral, then anything he does is consistent with that definition even if it contradicts the definition of the fucking words.
@jakerz0
@jakerz0 8 ай бұрын
Like to an extent, Craig is certainly consistent in his commitment to the notion that god is “outside of” everything we see, experience, and know as humans - time, space, knowledge, truth, morality, justice, love. But how can anyone say god is the perfect *embodiment* of any of those things if our understanding of them can be directly contradicted by a god’s “perfect” actions and commands? If god is SO unintelligible to us, then how do we know anything about him, and what can anyone confidently point to as an assertion of his nature? All that we would point to could just as easily contradict god’s nature. It’s like Platonic Forms if Plato was like “My knowledge of and experience with spheres tells me there’s a divine world where there’s a perfect version of this sphere. And in that world, that perfect sphere has 7 heads, 10 horns, and 7 crowns...”
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 8 ай бұрын
@@jakerz0and you or anyone can never see that platonic shere ever. Well do you know it exists platonic sphere believer ? I had a feeling once. But not about the sphere about being love. OK you need therapy.
@theamateurconversationalis71
@theamateurconversationalis71 8 ай бұрын
All merciful and all just? Wouldn't that be a contradiction? So many problems with the proposition of an all powerful being. So glad Bill is around to explain things to us. His rationalizations and justifications for god's killing smack of the explanations given by angel-of-mercy nurses when found to be expediting the expiration of their patients. "I was just sending them to be with god." 🙄
@Maryfs1
@Maryfs1 8 ай бұрын
I don't know, I thought William did a great job... arguing for atheism.
@chriswest8389
@chriswest8389 6 ай бұрын
😂
@Gratefulapostate
@Gratefulapostate 8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t an all-mighty god have just beamed the children up to heaven? Why was having his followers butcher them the best idea he could come up with?
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus 8 ай бұрын
You are now my first Patreon subscription.
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 7 ай бұрын
Woohoo!!! Thanks so much!
@Loki-
@Loki- 8 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. Sorry about the health problems...
@GreyNimbus
@GreyNimbus 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I hope you keep this channel afloat for many years to come
@misterdeity
@misterdeity 7 ай бұрын
Bless you!!!
@clemstevenson
@clemstevenson 8 ай бұрын
Mr Craig is proof that people can always convince themselves that they are doing the right thing, no matter how sick that thing is. It is remarkable how these people consider Adolf Hitler evil, yet consider god’s extermination plan good.
@stultusvenator3233
@stultusvenator3233 8 ай бұрын
and Ignore Adolf was one of them and following the preaching of the church to quote "I am doing Gods work".
@clemstevenson
@clemstevenson 8 ай бұрын
@@stultusvenator3233 Oh, yes, the Nazis claimed that god was on their side. God has been repeatedly used as an excuse for committing war crimes.
@stultusvenator3233
@stultusvenator3233 8 ай бұрын
@@clemstevenson They thought that Hitler definitely had divine approval & protection, after surviving 14 assassination attempts, I believe.
@clemstevenson
@clemstevenson 8 ай бұрын
@@stultusvenator3233 Oh, yes, it's very easy to find god in a pattern that isn't really there. Christians are always looking for god in patterns that aren't really there.
@martinnyberg9295
@martinnyberg9295 8 ай бұрын
The new testament invented antisemitism and Luther wrote AH’s plan. The goddy ones never acknowledge that.
@micbroc6435
@micbroc6435 8 ай бұрын
So the Oklahoma City bombing included victims who were children and women who were pregnant. Is WLC saying that he would have been completely at ease with Timothy mcveigh if he had said that god had told him to do it?
@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues
@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues 8 ай бұрын
Well, if there was just one chance in a million … .😊
@soyevquirsefron990
@soyevquirsefron990 8 ай бұрын
One minute in, “absent divine command, this is objectively wrong” THATS NOT OBJECTIVE
@ushere5791
@ushere5791 8 ай бұрын
hear hear!!
@Fraterchaoraterchaos
@Fraterchaoraterchaos 8 ай бұрын
it is a tremendous blessing to go to heaven and be with God* *Disclaimer, this same argument does not apply to abortion
@Tambra333
@Tambra333 13 күн бұрын
1000 times Yes! Excellent point! Thank you 🤩
@MrCyclist
@MrCyclist 8 ай бұрын
Knowing that this scenario is utter fiction gets me to listen and ponder. But yet, it sickens me to listen to LBB sanction such genocide in the name of a god or goddess.
@randyhodges8782
@randyhodges8782 8 ай бұрын
10:00 . I think I'm going to be sick.
@pauligrossinoz
@pauligrossinoz 8 ай бұрын
2:34 was where I almost literally vomited my dinner. William Lane Craig is doing a great job of presenting Christianity in the worst possible light. As do most fundies.
@davidpatterson2178
@davidpatterson2178 8 ай бұрын
SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS BILL GUY. Imagine him as a world leader.
@zemorph42
@zemorph42 8 ай бұрын
Let's not, thanks. (shudder)
@fantasyscrambler
@fantasyscrambler 8 ай бұрын
"Christianity is a crime against humanity." Amen!
@AnnoyingNewsletters
@AnnoyingNewsletters 8 ай бұрын
*_Far from raising the epistemological bar I lower it._* -WLC 🤷‍♂️
@Letmebe_2363
@Letmebe_2363 8 ай бұрын
This the pro-life crowd?
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 8 ай бұрын
Listening to LBB, I keep thinking of one of my favourite lines from Die Hard: Man, why don't you try smelling what you're shoveling?
@InigoMontoya-
@InigoMontoya- 8 ай бұрын
I have a great idea for a crossover event that could potentially heal the rift in the Abrahamic religions. We will need a bunch of babies, some planes, some buildings, and at the end, a bunch of thoughts and prayers. I feel this idea was placed in my head by a god, so it is perfectly moral.
@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1
@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1 8 ай бұрын
Jesus makes me sick too Mr D... but then, he would be profoundly proud of himself that he started such a colossal cult that lasted so long.
WOTM: Stop The Steal, Part VI
11:49
misterdeity
Рет қаралды 9 М.
Хаги Ваги говорит разными голосами
0:22
Фани Хани
Рет қаралды 2,2 МЛН
Ozoda - Alamlar (Official Video 2023)
6:22
Ozoda Official
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
-5+3은 뭔가요? 📚 #shorts
0:19
5 분 Tricks
Рет қаралды 13 МЛН
WOTM: The Complete Cumulative Case Against Christianity
17:28
misterdeity
Рет қаралды 22 М.
Debunking Evolution - unedited version 😉
5:14
Answerman
Рет қаралды 13 М.
Trump's Plan for "Greater America" Explained
8:42
TLDR News Global
Рет қаралды 672 М.
How Pythagoras Broke Music (and how we kind of fixed it)
17:40
Oliver Lugg
Рет қаралды 1,4 МЛН
WOTMQ: First, Do No Harm
5:12
misterdeity
Рет қаралды 8 М.
WOTM: Low Bar Bill Destroys Christianity
7:18
misterdeity
Рет қаралды 10 М.
An Engineering Fairy Tale: Cascade Failure at the Super Kamiokande
22:21
Alexander the ok
Рет қаралды 645 М.
WOTM: Religion Makes Philosophers Stupid, Part I
9:52
misterdeity
Рет қаралды 9 М.
The Myth of Low-Serotonin & Antidepressants - Dr. Mark Horowitz
30:17