Would Barry Goudreau Ever Rejoin Boston? Was Tom Scholz Difficult?

[@mikedemott1720]

Barry is straight up. Great interview tells it like it is and doesn't sling mud.

[@scottchoate6987]

Tom, brad,barry,fran,and sib, were awesome live, seen em in 1978, was blowed away, as a eight year old kid, thank god i had a cool mother(rip), and a big older brother, who took me to these live shows, back then.

[@kenni123064]

Sib Hashian is "Boston's" greatest drummer ever! For Me it always will be Brad, Tom, Sib, Fran, & the great Barry This was the magical line up could never be beaten by any other! Boston is just simply one Of the greatest bands ever!

[@janalong2702]

I'm so happy that I saw them twice in 78, and once in 1988

[@john564holloway]

Definitely like to see Orion The Hunter back together for a reunion. Thanks, Barry, for your time. Thanks, John!

[@chrislestermusic]

2:53 Tom’s lawyer gets sent to voicemail.

[@OttoByOgraffey]

Thoroughly enjoyed this interview series. Huge Goudreau fan. Bought his first solo album and still have it. Even picked it up when they finally put it on C.D.

[@sarge6870]

Me too otto! "Memories" was a great track which got a lot of airplay.

[@dr.kenpetty5167]

I have enjoyed listening to this entire interview. It's one of your best

[@JoeRodriquez-qy9iq]

I absolutely love Barry !!! VERT TALENTED GUITAR PLAYER ❤

[@goggutube]

Thanks, awesome interview! Boston to me is, of course as usual, Tom as the leader and creative, Brad's voice, Fran's bass, Sib's drums. And Barry's voice, the harmonies he provided, were just sublime, and every bit a critical element in the fabric of Boston, as much as Tom and Brad, and just isn't quite the same original Boston without Barry. I like Third Stage a lot too, but the harmonies are not quite the same.

[@leeforrester466]

I learned how to bend the neck on an Gibson SG to get that whammy bar effect. After seeing Barry in 1978 with Boston playing his solo on Long Time.. I still do it to this day, and remember who I saw do it first..

[@stevenartascos2918]

Hey Barry, thanks so much for all the great guitar playing, the leads on long time and much more ,they where a huge influence on me, to push me to buy a les Paul ,and learn to blaze away,and learn these songs, love them all, great stylish playing ,rock on brother ...🎸🎸🎸✌️

[@neechee5150]

According to producer John Boylan when he heard the drum tracks and acoustic instrument tracks that Tom had done for the record, he said that they were "amateurish". Boylan then hired LA engineer Paul Grupp and sent him to teach Tom proper mic technique and how to properly record acoustic instruments. Boylan then gives Tom the directive to re-record all of the drum tracks and some of the acoustic instrument tracks. With one exception (Rock and Roll Band) all of the new tracks were played by Sib. The drums on Rock and Roll Band were played by Jim Masdea. Barry is watching what he says due to how litigious Tom has been. However, Boylan came right out and said that Tom was very autocratic a my way or the highway kind of guy and that Tom was hard on Barry. Boylan said that Tom knew that he could never even begin to approach Brad's talent and vocal virtuosity, so Tom did not give Brad as much hassle. What most people do not know is that Barry introduced Tom to Brad back in 1969, and as Barry points out in this interview series, he met Tom when his band held auditions for a keyboard player. I never knew why people thought the solo on Long Time was Tom in the first place. Tom always uses a Les Paul Gold top with PAF humbucker pick ups. At that time Barry always used an SG custom three pick up model. The guitar tone on the Long Time solo has a different sound and timbre and also the phrasing, vibrato and picking is different from the solos that Tom played.

[@whatsyurprob158]

"Used to bad news" When I think of iconic riffs, this song has always done it for me. 😍😍😍 Thank You, Barry!!!

[@sarge6870]

...as well as "Feelin' Satisfied" !

[@int53185]

The trio of solos on Foreplay/Longtime are epic!

[@fredstriker2042]

Great interview, AND thank you for having the courage to ask the question everyone wanted to hear. Regardless of the answer

[@JustTheFactsMan]

I received my autographed CD "The Road" by Barry the other day. Great music! Been listening to it everyday since I received it.

[@briangoudreau5793]

I don’t even have one ☝️

[@janlee3173]

Awesome! Love Barry Goudreau's stories!

[@AceAlive2]

Let's be honest. If barry's album was released as a Boston album while tom finished third stage, we wouldn't be here right now. Tom should have taken the help.

[@michaelreardon7667]

Hot damn! This is great stuff, keep it coming John

[@williamlangan5902]

Barry is very diplomatic, which is wise if you ever run into your old band mate.

[@bikersoncall]

Yeah, I think he was careful, but seemed to be pretty fair about with his comments.

[@deanladue3151]

And he's still receiving a share of the royalties from the first two albums. As much as Scholz attempted to get rid of that with his lawsuit against Barry.

[@themadmattster9647]

Amazing and underrated guitarist

[@dietslice]

If it wasn't for all the other Members from Boston except Tom, they would never have gone anywhere !!! Love your interviews Barry, and your music also, Rock On

[@skaboosh]

Really, he got lucky and joined a talented musician with a vision and a band and the know how to create a whole new tone to the rock idiom......

[@RandyFricke]

I imagine that Barry is as tired of talking about Tom Scholz as Ian Gillan is of talking about Ritchie Blackmore.

[@67marlins]

Good comparison. Both Blackmore and Scholz are unpleasant bullies.

[@owlperchedsilo3745]

there is a picture of Barry holding his SG pointed straight up high in a perfect 90 degree angle while still playing. he looked like a complete badass and did it better than Page or Van Halen ever could. he is a monster lead player as well. Love Barry.

[@rollinover]

@2:50 Barry ignoring a call from Tom. 😂

[@ntt2232]

Four words to describe him: Class Act Rock God

[@ButchA61]

I used to be stationed in Boston, MA back in my Coast Guard days, way back when... I knew of other guitar players, who knew other people, etc... and you know how it goes, word gets back down to us small, amateur dreamers. Perfectionist is an understatement. I mean, come on... EIGHT YEARS to make an album? Good God, man!!! 1978: Don't Look Back. 1986: Third Stage....

[@EitherEndofAugust]

Sure, but every Boston album after "Third Stage" has been terrible. The last album sounded like a bunch of poorly played and recorded demos of underwritten songs.

[@deanladue3151]

After Boston's tour finished up in late '79, Scholz was ready to start work on a third album, until he became caught up in his legal battle with Epic Records, that court case alone took about 4 years to resolve. (Scholz won the case) So he really didnt start up work again on Bostons third album until 1985. By then Boston had signed with MCA Records.

[@bb-gc2tx]

@@deanladue3151 3 rd stage was a good album but even in 1986 it sounded dated

[@janalong2702]

Right? I don't know that being a perfectionist gets one a better result These albums could have been 2 or 3 years apart

[@toddboothe1846]

These are great. I really like the stuff he did on his own.

[@chadbennett7873]

Problem with being a perfectionist is that to play live, you simply cannot play every instrument at the same time. Tom just can't seem to play in the sandbox well enough to keep great people. In my opinion, Team is always greater than I.

[@cuttingthechord1419]

I assume like Brad, Barry didn't spend a whole lot of time in the studio with Tom, thus he wasn't difficult to work with. And given Barry's chops, like Brad, he probably didn't need many takes to get his parts right. In my opinion, from a fan's perspective, the definitive article on life on the road with Boston is the 1987 Musician article. In that article, among other things, Barry and Tom were described as the city boys' Allman Brothers. And it talks about how Barry's experience helped him get through Boston's excruciating tour schedule.

[@billyboyce6249]

Miss you Barry. Luckily I got to see you in the early 80s in Memphis.

[@jwprimetime9795]

I’d love to hear an interview with the current Boston guitarist Gary Pihl. Seems like a nice guy-just like Barry!

[@cuttingthechord1419]

They are out there...and they are very interesting. Gary talks about more than Boston...for example, his time with Sammy Hagar, his origins in music (including his connection with Springsteen), and an interesting theory about the nature of Brad's death.

[@SixStringSteveDelivers]

I had submitted this question for Barry regarding his BOSTON days. "Did Tom S. allow much input from the other members when it came to the songwriting/composing process." I'm still hoping to see his answer and reaction. Waiting... 😆

[@owlperchedsilo3745]

good luck

[@mikal]

Tom has spent the last 40+ years suing everybody he has ever known or worked with. He even sued Barry MULTIPLE times, and Fran Cosmo simply because he didn't want promoters saying he's a former member of Boston. He also sued Brad Delp's wife for saying that Brad was afraid to quite Boston because he figured Tom would sue him. You read that correctly.

[@dynjarren8355]

Barry and Fran are the two last men standing from Boston. Yes, TS wrote the songs but without Brads incredible vocals he would only have a bunch of riffs. Boston was a band will actual musical chemistry. It wasn’t a one man band. Sibs great drumming and Frans bass were a part of the success. Barry taught Tom how to play the guitar 🎸 and not the other way around. I saw a video of Barry playing “Longtime” at a local show and his playing is smoking! He does not get enough credit. He’s a brilliant guitar player! Thanks for posting this! 😎👏🏻🎸

[@rodrossi9749]

Barry didn't teach Tom Scholz a damn thing. Scholz is Boston, without him there is NOTHING. As for the rest of the guys, all they did is play Scholz's original demo parts , I believe Sib only plays on 2 tracks on the 1st album. Known fact that 80% of the first album and the next one were nothing but Scholz.

[@bikersoncall]

Brad was an incredible singer, but to say without him is not much different than saying without a bass player or drummer, ''a bunch of riffs'', lol, I can't agree with that statement, at all.

[@Reed___]

@@rodrossi9749 could you share a link of the video where Barry is playing “Longtime” ?

[@janalong2702]

I tend to agree. Tom needed them as much as the band needed him. The chemistry of a band is key.

[@damnyankeefl]

dave currier? I know that name - who did he end up playing with?. of course i'm from the boston area so I 've heard of him for sure

[@Misticmyst73]

You would think that live music leaves room for error, it gives it that something that the album don't.. I guess Tom don't see it like that.. I like when a band goes off que live and does something diffrent..

[@DMDvideo10]

The guys that want perfection are always the ones taking the heat... If it weren't for them there would be no great bands...

[@kickinvideo333]

What about Delp & Goudreau? What about RTZ? Lost and Found in America?

[@davidhill3266]

What is that song you play at the end of your interviews? I sure like what I hear.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

I got that vibe several years ago when the June 1979 concert at the Meadow Lands was first uploaded on YT watching it. I said, everybody is walking on eggshells, it's all business and no fun. I was thinking, all of them are thinking, If we make one mistake, Tom the perfectionist, will be all over us after the show. ha Turns out, I was right. haha Fran was the exception and I would love to ask Barry if Fran was all gooned out on coke that day. The original headbanger ha At one point, Fran was so in the moment during the break in one of the songs he actually stumbled and Barry looked over at Tom like, Oh bleep. haha Tom, glanced over at Fran a few times like, This is your last tour. ha Then at another point, Fran is gooning out in front of Brad as Brad was strumming the LP JR and Brad looked very uncomfortable. If anybody doesn't believe me go watch the concert. ha

[@pnickerson]

Boston saddest story in Rock. God bless you Barry.

[@villageidiot6537]

Sib the absolute best Armenian Afro of all time!!!

[@67marlins]

There's a picture, surely you've seen it, of Sib in full Afro with a T-shirt that says, 'Armenian Power'.

[@gill2675]

Did you write used to bad news? And sing it

[@daleharapat4984]

Goudreau and Delph to me were Boston....I mean they had the voices that were equally as important as Scholz mechanical bullshit.....I think my favorite moment is the video of "Don't Look Back" where Barry smiles at Brad and they both recognize the magic they are doing on stage.....Goudreau was the lady's man....I want him to know that in the 1970's and 1980's early, no band packed a more powerful summer fun punch than Boston.....Too bad Scholz was such an asshole.

[@sarge6870]

Well said Dale !

[@bikersoncall]

Dale, you worked with Tom? I didn't , I can't say he was an a#####, he was a perfectionist, he was Boston, he hired great players, the best of which was Brad Delp, the others were great, but this was mostly about the best music that one guy could put together, from the start it was Tom's project. Is anyone an a333333 for wanting perfection? How much money did his bandmates lose working with Tom, how many of them wouldn't give their left arm to be part of Boston?

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

@@bikersoncall "Tom WAS Boston, he hired great player, it was about making the best music" Does that explain Boston taking a dump in the 2000s and crappy talent including hiring some fluzey woman that couldn't sing? Even Walk Ons Cosmo was good but not the same, just not as good as Delp.

[@deanladue3151]

Barrys guitar playing was very underrated and critical in helping to shape the Boston sound.

[@Reed___]

@@DickRileyTheConquistador - your name fits you very well, sir…. 🤨

[@rcpsammy7186]

Boston's guitar sound never sounded the same again, and the writing is terrible. Nothing after the first two albums are worth anyone's time, and Barry's first solo album is better than anything Tom slapped the Boston banner on after, Don't Look Back.

[@rodrossi9749]

To bad it didn't sell one /10th of what 3rd Stage did.

[@richardacevedo2710]

The label stopped promoting it that's why, and no tour ... What di you expect? "Dreams" was in the top 100 ( #76 at the time ) and "Mean Women Blues" was getting radio play

[@phoenixkarlaz]

Tom scholtz wrecked his band.

[@2kosher]

No dice. 😢

[@nothingfree3524]

BARRY WAS AND IS ONE IF THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF THE BAND , NOT THE SAME WITHOUT ! THE OTHER BAND MEMBERS AT BEGINNING WERE THE SAME AND MY OPINION SHOULD HAVE BUILT ON THAT AND CREATE MORE INSTEAD OF BECOMING A FLASH IN THE PAN ! BUT EVEN AS THINGS TURNED OUT BOSTON HOLDS A SPECIAL SPOT IN MANY MEMORIES ! 👍

[@laurar2406]

You Rock Barry, but to be honest, there is no BOSTON without Brad

[@First-gd7ci]

Let's be honest, after the secondd album, maybe the third, without the original members, the band was never the same. I think these guys, Barry, Fran, Brad, and Sib had a lot to do with the original sound. Maybe it was their style, maybe it was their influence, whatever it was, I think they deserve more credit than what Tom wants to admit. And the evidence is in the music.

[@marxter6]

I wonder if Bassist Fran Sheehan is still involved with Music?

[@sarge6870]

He's popped up on some KZbin videos. Try searching there.

[@scottshiflett3599]

I remember he was struck by a car either jogging or riding a bicycle but more or less lost the ability to use his arm.. at least from a playing standpoint.

[@briangoudreau5793]

He really doesn’t want anything to do playing music anymore

[@damnyankeefl]

dude just release this whole video. why the tease

[@TheHemiphil81]

Orion the hunter..need I say more..

[@charleswind8298]

I thought Tom S. Played all the instruments on the debut album, and brought in Brad Delp for vocals. The band was hired when it went on the road.

[@rapman5363]

He did,with the exception of drums Tom did play all instruments on the debut album.

[@mikeyroberts1252]

Tom didn't write it himself. Barry, Tom, and Brad started demoeing together by 1969. It was collaborative, but Tom reworked the finished product.

[@christopherharris3229]

@@mikeyroberts1252 Correct. The songs had been reworked from all the ideas that Brad, Tom and Barry had contributed from their former bands.

[@ericcook4665]

Boston ???? without brad Delp ???????

[@danielabilez3619]

Name three things Tom should have learned from Barry?

[@christopherharris3229]

1. How to be a decent human being 2. How to treat bandmates (Brad Delp) with respect and dignity 3. How to give credit where credit is due, because the truth will always come out in the end, and has 😂

[@newavatar2947]

Brad couldn't stand Tom it was well known. However there was so much money to be made he still went out to tour with Boston. The band should have released at least 16-17 albums if it wasn't for Toms stalling.

[@bradlee2594]

No, it is not well known. People "think" this, but very few, if anyone, actually knows how Brad truly felt about Tom. What we do know is that Brad never said a bad word about Tom - and in addition he was only complimentary of Tom in public. Big money was not important to Brad, so once again "thinking" you know may not be based on anything factual. And "the band" wasn't really a band when it came to writing and recording. It was Tom's project, and he did with it what he wanted - which was his right.

[@in2livinit]

Another Tom groupie ( Tom drone, Tom alt ID profile, yada yada ) playiing the same nattative over & over. For nearly 50 years.

[@jrpipik]

"It would depend on the circumstances," usually means, "Will you pay me enough to make it worth the headache?"

[@sarge6870]

Not sure if I agree with that in Barry's case. He has a lot of pride. Just money may not be the answer.

[@sarge6870]

Tom was the eventual failure of Boston. Things started to get creepy (to me) when Third Stage was released. "Hollyann" to me sounded over-modulated in the recording. Don't get me started on "Corporate America"! THAT was a failure. I got to see Boston many years ago at the Westbury Music Fair where only Tom & Brad were left as the original members. I walked out halfway through because it just wasn't Boston anymore. Tom allowing the band to split due to his inflated ego was sad. He looked for little to NO input from Fran, Sibby, Brad or Barry. I had an occasion years ago to make friends with Sibby on AOL. He refused to discuss the issues going on at the time. Nowadays we hear NOTHING from Boston. I had heard EVERY song from the original album on the radio at one time or another. Not many bands from even back then can hold that acclaim. Very sad! RIP Brad & Sibby. It could have been great...

[@CatholicTraditional]

Tom crashed his own spaceship...Boston would’ve been like the Stones or U2 otherwise.

[@JeffreyOakarPhotos]

Rolling Stone just released there new list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. Boston's debut was not on it. Travesty.

[@Bradmarg1111]

Rolling Stone who?

[@sarge6870]

@@Bradmarg1111 LOL...NO SHIT!! RS went by way of MTV and VH1 !

[@themadmattster9647]

Rolling Stone is a manufacturer of toliet paper

[@janandd1]

Tom's too much of a control freak & takes credit for everything @ the expense of the rest of the band...

[@consciouscoma85]

why would any one even ask the question ,,,would you ever join Boston again? it was a time and place from all of our past...2 are dead and the rest are old... remember,,dont look back.🎵🎶

[@kevinhullinger8743]

I know a few people that are highly intelligent but lack common sense which makes them their worst enemy.

[@Smileatlife37]

Boston isn't boston anymore rip (brad delp)

[@sarge6870]

...and Sib Hashian!

[@rodrossi9749]

The guys creep factor unfortunately overshadows his golden voice.

[@seeburg220]

Third Stage = Turd Stage.

[@EitherEndofAugust]

I wouldn't go that far. About half of "Third Stage" is at least okay. But the albums after that one...yikes. And they get progressively worse. Quite a feat.

[@alanlloyd9986]

All these ex-Boston musicians are indebted to Tom and they know it, so I don't want to hear them complaining🙂

[@glennyocklin2884]

What's wrong with perfection? Called pride in what you do. Said it a millions time tom scholz was Boston.

[@sarge6870]

Because his "perfection" was the eventual downfall of the band. Where is Boston NOW???

[@TheDogPa]

Bostyx does it better...just saying...

[@MycketKar]

Tom Scholz seems to be a nice guy. As for him being a perfectionist that's a good thing. I think Tom doesn't need anyone except probably Brad Delp but it seems he found a decent replacement.

[@67marlins]

Tom is NOT a 'nice guy'. Get that lie out of your head.

[@1970sRacing]

barry would be nothing without tom

[@sarge6870]

And Tom thinks the same and dwells on it. By the way, you got a crystal ball or something??

[@kingsethos5108]

Ok Tom. We all know it's you.

[@rodrossi9749]

No Scholz, no Boston. It's that simple.

[@JohnBowl14690]

Barry made Boston better.

[@richardacevedo2710]

No, it's the other way around