Would the Mass Effect Universe Survive Helldivers?

[@rougarabid]

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[@JayJohnson-ls3eq]

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[@bruhbruh796]

Can you do a would the old republic and the sith empire survive the helldivers 2 univers

[@P6lishB6kser]

Didn't you say on multiple occasions that there's nothing in the Mass effect universe that could pose any threat to the "Super Earth"?

[@yakine_azg7107]

It’s just like the Anime or more the manga of ( Zipang )

[@yakine_azg7107]

I recommend it

[@WandaKendrick-uy3iu]

Okay, watching this. The reaper indoctrination MAY be a factor purely because you KNOW super earth would want that juicy reaper tech. They would absolutely augment the helldivers with it.

[@theunknown1666]

Probably weaponary. But I wonder if they will keep using the same one all the time

[@theunknown1666]

Also consider their lifetime on battlefield. A lot probably die before 4 years pass.

[@corywilson532]

Super Indoctrination lol

[@Rangernewb5550]

They would absolutely tell everyone to ignore the disembodied voices and hallucinations, and accept the Reaper tech as humanities next great victory.

[@Emolt76]

So would a Tech Priest! "HOOK ANOTHER PLANT DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN STEM BROTHER!!" "RIGHT AWAY TECH PRIEST!!"

[@Danthepanman1]

I’d say helldivers win since the anti material rifle exists and most things are made of material

[@bpw102896]

I've made that joke more then once while playing

[@Ser-Vex131]

@@bpw102896 And it genuinely never gets old 😂

[@You_Explain_My_Comics_TY]

I like that one lol

[@Shoutatclouds]

It's housed by anti anti material

[@Ser-Vex131]

@@Shoutatclouds That sounds like a challenge to the brain boys of Super Earth. Anti-anti-anti material rifle.

[@zapp5916]

You are right, you do need a collab because you have had some massive inaccuracies the last couple videos. 1. The mass effect ships have ftl travel, it is just slower than the relays. The mass relays enable near instantaneous travel between relays. Written right in the codex. The helldivers do not use FTL either. They bend space around them, so they are not designed to handle the stresses of FTL travel, unlike the mass effect ships. 2. A projectile fired from a mss effect weapon would not make a door sized hole in you unless the projectile was designed to break apart like a hollow point. At those speeds with that force, that projectile is passing straight through a human body like a current bullet will unless designed to splinter and cause a bigger wound. 3. In your Star Wars vs. helldivers videos, you called the storm troopers clones while referencing the new hope timeline. Those troopers were not clones as per cannon. Palpatine could not trust the clones after order 66 and began replacing them with conscripted/volenteer forces of regular people therefore alot of the assumptions you made about training/resistence to fear/etc were wrong.

[@floofyboi2520]

Regarding your second point: the more energy a projectile has the bigger the exit wound and the bigger the internal damage would be

[@floofyboi2520]

Additionally for point 3: the number one reason palps swapped to conscripts was cost, not saying paranoia wasn't a factor at all, just that price is a bigger one

[@maplemayhem1988]

Jokers "1 well placed shot" was only the final blow, Sovereign spent the last 20 minutes before that being lit up by the most powerful fleet in the galaxy.

[@Shoutatclouds]

I was thinking the same

[@kuronanestimare]

That whole tangent about the Mass Relays not having an Off-Switch? The Off-Switch exists, and we call it The Citadel. In every other invasion, all of the space societies put all of their (Command) eggs in the Reaper's Basket. When the Reapers invade, they not only shut down the Relays, they also cut the head off of the serpent, so to speak, and also get their own Mega Mass Relay that can hit all of the other ones. Vergil told us this. That's why the Mass Effect timeline works: The Reapers didn't have a proper contingency if they couldn't get one of their own to control the Citadel, so the Mass Relays can still be used by the enemy. As to 'Why doesn't Super Earth destroy all the Mass Relays?' Uh... there's 300,000 Batarians that would like a word with you... if they were, y'know, alive after the absolute gravitational collapse that obliterated their entire Star System. As to the reverse-engineering thing... If anything, Super Earth would probably benefit more from reverse-engineering VI. Half of our Super Destroyer Upgrades are basically "Okay, but what if we automated this chore? How about we buy the Premium version of this Software?" Our Tier 5 Support slot is "Okay, the payroll system is automated, now HR can use the spare time to lube your guns." Super Destroyers would become so much more powerful if we had VI that could perform half of the tasks in the ship without needing like 12 people doing it.

[@codyraugh6599]

Shepard after committing mass genocide. "I'm not a criminal. I'm a hero, sure I talked to Cerberus, but I've never done anything to aliens like what they'd do."

[@diegocardenas6494]

I don't think the 300,000 can have a word

[@darkreflection9087]

I wondering how quickly either side could reverse engineer each other’s tech Edit Like Helldivers getting Biotics and Mass Effect getting better FTL travel

[@mark-zu1cz]

Likely helldivers, think it, the fact that the illuminate thing happened around 100+ years and so, that is way less time than the relay thing has existed in the mass effect universe, and helldivers have not only implemented it, but enhanced it in less than 500 years, yea, makes sense that helldivers would copy all tech in about the same time, and upgrading it in way less time

[@the0s0ph1st]

Also consider that canonically the Mass Effect universe has stagnated technologically because of Reaper influence.

[@michaelonak3356]

If the geth are working with the ME team, then the ME team can reverse engineer faster. The Geth can analyze and work calculations and theories at FTL speeds.

[@PuppyShooter]

@@michaelonak3356 Geth will also have a good time bringing automatons into the fold. Both are essentially sentient AI.

[@legion5737]

From what I know helldiver's would have to wait an entire generation in order to gain biotics because humans have to be exposed to element zero while in utero. Out of those that are only about 1 in 10 developed biotics and most develope cancers from the exposure.

[@corywilson532]

Super Earth isn't Racist. They're specist as hell, but not racist.

[@codyraugh6599]

I wouldn't even argue speciest. Unless you're arguing the bugs. But the Terminds seem more akin to animals with the strange intelligence that ants possess. The Illuminate are the only group that any "racism" claim can be made, but the Illuminate chose to keep themselves independent and not to submit to the "Democratic" rule of Super Earth.

[@motivationizkey6547]

More like xenophobic

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

A little thing you don't understand about mass relays, if they are destroyed, they release the same amount of energy as a supernova. This means that entire star systems are wiped clean of life by the destruction. Super Earth would do that once at most and then stop out of necessity. They would likely also figure out that the Citadel is the center of galactic governance and take it, then find out it controls all of the mass relays. They would therefor use the Citadel to shut all of them down in one go.

[@ammonford1122]

your missing one thing *helldiver have zero regard for their own lives* and will most definitely be willing to blow themselfs up for super earth, if anything they will weaponize this against the mass effect universe

[@mandude-w2z]

Hey btw the drives helldiver ships use are based on the alcubierre drive meaning the ships are not truely going faster than light they are bending space behind them so they are not strong enough to just go those speeds they bend space instead.

[@codyraugh6599]

Isn't that the same drive the Planet Express from Futurama uses?

[@mandude-w2z]

@@codyraugh6599 no idea

[@cheapthought9200]

While i do think Rouga is underestimating the effectiveness of reaper indoctrination, and given how super earth likes to take tech from thier enemies and incorporate it means they would actually be quite suceptable to it. However, i do still think the Helldivers would overcome it because the moment they realized this was a reaper power, i dont think they would hesitate to cull thier ranks of anyone who was exposed to reaper tech.

[@michaelonak3356]

By the time they realize, they are already indoctrinated.

[@leonardocastro410]

You forget, that they can do the sleeper agents route that they did with the Batarians. Also if the Leadership is taken, Super Earth will full endorse uploading to higher existence by become the Super Reapers.

[@cheapthought9200]

@leonardocastro410 ya i agree there is at least a possible route where the reaper indoctrination is subtle enough that they might convince super earth that they also intend to "bring democracy". the illusive man, Saren and several others were convinced the reapers were ideologically on thier side. Like genuinely it comes down to, can super earth be tricked like that. Cuz the reapers will be trying to convince them they are the path to True democracy. So it me... it comes down to how easily tricked are hell divers into believing things that arent true....... weeeeellll shit lol

[@Biotear]

​@@leonardocastro410 Yeah. Super Earth have enough racism and xenophobia to be useful against the Reapers, which isn't enough. The Imperium of Man would have a shot, but that's not solely because of their xenophobia. It's also because the Imperium is fucking massive and could afford to just glass worlds the Reapers infect (they already do this, just ask a Space Wolf their thoughts on Inquisitors). There is also the matter the Reapers probably just straight up COULDN'T corrupt all their leadership. Even if they somehow managed to get Guilleman and the Lion, the Emperor is more of a psychic entity at this point than he is a man.

[@zooomtoall1024]

I see where ur coming from but reaper indoctrination isn't as simple as "hes acting funny hes indoctrinated" or anything so simple. It can twist the minds of ppl of think they're out smarting the reapers into unknowing tools of the reapers like it does with the elusive man. And it can make weak minded individuals commit acts of violence at most any point it chooses and something tells me someone who believes in super earths propaganda isn't exactly the strongest minded individual. Honestly super earth is so cocky and mindless that i have no doubts it would only take a single conversation with a reaper for super earths government to fall. Helldivers may be determined but they quite literally have 0 defense against indoctrination. Ntm reaper soldiers r no joke basically the cyborgs but better with better weapons

[@destructionverse5557]

Just want to say the reaper in 3 was not killed by a satelite lazer but by an orbital bombardment from the entire fleet of ships in orbit the satelite was just giving them targeting information and they were also aiming at it's weakspot too

[@destructionverse5557]

Also matriarch benezia and her followers were shown to be indoctrinated in me1 and in me2 it's shown that a group of scientist working on a dead reaper fell to indoctination

[@wokeuplikedis1500]

It's also a destroyer class reaper, not nearly as powerful as a sovereign class reaper

[@jaylee9552]

I feel personally attacked by this video 😂.

[@Majin_Koolaid]

Yeah there's a few inaccuracies, mostly with him downplaying Mass Effect. Fun listen though.

[@markmulder9845]

Cant remember where, but someone did the math. Mass effect small arms are typically in the same ballpark of damage and hit power as modern large caliber battle rifles, but since the projectile is smaller, it has less stopping power and does damage over a smaller area. It's in the small power level as Halo firearms. The main reason mass effect guns are more effective against mass effect armor and shields is since the projectile is small, it's more force and a smaller area, leading to better AP. Additionally, in atmosphere, air friction is still a thing, and regardless of mass, a sand grain sized projectile at 1% the speed of light would melt mid air. Fairly, it would travel a good distance before vaporizing because 1% the speed of light is still extremely fast.

[@C00L_DUD31]

The main weapon in Halo is 7.62. So the primary weapon in mass effect is far better than the primary weapon in Halo.

[@markmulder9845]

@@C00L_DUD31 7.62 in use a better propellant than modern day. In the lore, it give the velocity of the halo 7.62, and its nearly twice that of modern day.

[@shrike6326]

What about general brasch he is canon to the helldivers and is basically master chief to the helldivers

[@darkreflection9087]

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[@SireAymeri]

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[@maplemayhem1988]

(Duke Nukem) Those Alien Bastards

[@Gaz918]

For Grimm (RWBY) VS Helldivers case: they are basically like Terminids, made out of shadows. Unlike Huntsmen, Helldivers don't have to rely on Dust for their guns and such they are much stronger and effective, countering their lack of Aura (unless they find a way to acquire it, even thought they are not natives). They'd be able to obliterate them no problem, no matter how armored Grimm are. Real challenge would be Salem, since she is immortal and can't really die, putting her down indefinitely would be a challenge for the Helldivers. Only hope would be reverse engineering Illuminate weapon being capable of molecularly disintegrating their victim leaving nothing to recover, preventing Salem from resurrecting again. Yeah, Super Earth would triumph over Grimm.

[@JoshuaEFinley]

What if the Reapers send out Democracy waves and play off of the heldivers' blind loyalty. Blind loyalty is a weakness. They might not even destroy the reaper relics if they are blasting out Democracy waves. They might even take some trophies onto their ships. Super Earth pulls a Deadspace and starts building Reaper tech and converting non democratic civilians into husks when the Reapers finally make their move.

[@mark-zu1cz]

For starters, they do not play diplomatic relations, illuminates try it and the ambassador was killed on sight, so that is most likely not happening soon, they will admit reapers after arresting them, studying them, then adoctrinatig (I think I misspelled that one) and only then letting it be possible if their blood or any other thing is of use

[@thefogg]

shit, i'm in chapter 3 of deadspace. did you say something spoiling? also, yeah to the blind loyalty. and they'd be creating collectors

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

@@thefogg Don't worry too much, it doesn't make sense without context.

[@Psub950]

Would These Medieval/Fantasy Characters Survive Game of Thrones? -Aragon (Lord of the Rings) -Apollyon (For Honor) -Conan The Barbarian (Comics) -Thorfinn (Vinland Saga)

[@FireCat14]

You should have politicians rather than fighters

[@Psub950]

@@FireCat14 the only characters that come to mind are from ASOIAF

[@paytonkraft7564]

Honestly, anyone with a good enough swordskill can make it in Game of Thrones as long as you don't go for the iron throne.

[@Psub950]

@@paytonkraft7564 the Mountain would disagree with you there

[@WandaKendrick-uy3iu]

Also it is a possibility that the salarians could pull what they did with the Krogans. Biophage

[@the0s0ph1st]

You really think a biophage can significantly affect a galactic government that has the medical knowhow to create stims that are basically super-meth that can heal any grievous injury? And also they can increase the stamina and resistance of their soldiers to the point that they become tougher and able to run so hard their bodies breakdown then use that super-meth to instantly heal them again so they can run again? Really? And how is it going to spread? And even if the biophage is effective, do you really think Super Earth would not just neutralize all people affected by it before it spreads?

[@michaelonak3356]

@@the0s0ph1st By the time they realize, its too late. Just like with reaper tech which they would be heavily attracted to. There was a virus in ME 2 specifically engineered to kill any species besides vorcha and humans. The genophage was a MILD form of steralization by Moridan's standards. And the salarians wouldnt care if it affects ME universe humans. The ends justify the means to them. They are literally the most ruthless of all races in ME. But so are HD. Its a good fight none the less

[@the0s0ph1st]

@@michaelonak3356 All Super Earth Citizens are required to apply for a C-01 permit to do any activity that could result in a pregnancy, which means close monitoring of pregnancies. There is no way in hell Super Earth will be caught pants down dealing with a genophage.

[@redmaxxs]

There is one thing I do want to factor in is dividing their resources. The hell divers will have to government both universes. Because since they're still fighting the enemies in their universe. They will have to decide where to put their forces. Also considering they use the bugs for oil. Will they have the proper energy to take over a universe with out of fuel source? Because we don't know what the Mass effect of the ships run on. Now if they bring them bugs to the Mass effect Universe that's definitely going to cause problems. Also there is a chance that the Hell Divers enemies might find a way to the Mass effect universe and give them info on the Helldivers.

[@Unknown-xr1iz]

As for the bugs. If it's after ME 3 timeline where krogans for the genophage cure. I don't see much of a problem. At least for the krogans

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

The ships in Mass Effect run on Helilum-3 primarily and for FTL use Element Zero, the very substance that enables all things related to the titular effect.

[@br3ndan538]

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[@LeastNationalistPole]

5:58 What about the canon in-game line said by the Democracy Officer?: "The final absolution of xenocide is a mellifluous clarion guiding our path."

[@ScpfAni]

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[@LethalG1523]

This video physically hurts me The inaccuracies on mass effect

[@rougarabid]

That’s not an argument.

[@darkshado124]

What inaccuracies? He's spot on and true to canon.

[@legion4902]

Hes not really. ​@@darkshado124

[@legion4902]

​@@rougarabid It is.

[@LUNA-zj5gy]

@@darkshado124the difference in tech and scale for the reapers was massively downplayed and indoctrination was also miss interpreted

[@chemicalwasted3450]

Love these vids. Keep em coming

[@joemammadeez]

given how the seaf bodies you find in helldivers have look to have the same type of armor without the facemask they a probably the same alloy 32:26

[@rexturbo10]

Great video, you forgot to mention the fact that mass effect shields only works against kinetic proyectiles, energy weapons can mostly bypass, mostly because lasers do not exist and only plasma weaponry was recently developed in that universe

[@陈凯文-n1h]

still though ME shields still have theyre limits even the sun (recruit tali ME 2 ) even overheats or overcharged it

[@codyraugh6599]

​@@陈凯文-n1h​that was a extreme radiation situation which well lasers are effectively radiation weapons of a different type. Now it shows a few things, 1) ME shields do """work""" against lasers but significantly less as even basic bitch radiation blocked by armor breaks them. And 2) it's actually going to be important for ME to restructure their layered defenses since as it is currently their armor is just a redundant layer against solid projectiles. But now they need energy resistance and other types of damage, even shaped ME rounds need specialized armor, and Helldivers will use different round types.

[@fuzclock8561]

Concerning ME shields : They do not stop energy weapons. Helldivers 2 shields do.

[@maplemayhem1988]

Sorta a mute point cause neither side primarily uses energy weapons

[@fuzclock8561]

@@maplemayhem1988 But divers still have energy weapons. A big orbital laser and, more importantly, actual laser/energy weapons for infantry. And once they find this weakness, Super Earth will capitalise on it.

[@maplemayhem1988]

@fuzclock8561 and mass effect can weaponize black holes without drilling into a planet first

[@skipping88]

​​​@@maplemayhem1988 Can they explode/turn a planet into a blackhole tho?

[@zooomtoall1024]

​@@skipping88 ur acting like superearth can do that again when they don't have the stuff that turns planets into blackholes anymore and they can't make it anymore. Ntm ur acting like that wasn't a week long venture at minimum

[@williamwillis6380]

The super earth and cerberus team up gonna go crazy

[@djashovel]

What if the UNSC and the Covenant meet the Galactic republic or the Galactic empire

[@victorortiz2323]

Please continue to make Hell Divers 2 videos, these are my favorites

[@animalazx7239]

sovereign had the entire human or citadel fleet bearing down on him the human reaper from ME2 was basically a fetus and was no way as strong as any other reaper seen and in ME3 had to combined the main gun of the Normandy (a weaker version of the reapers cannon) and the whole flotilla (the largest fleat in the galaxy) the creation of husks and indoctrination are different and the process of indoctrination does not prey on fears or weakness it starts by wearing down mental resistance then corrupts morality loyalty and faith to perceive the reapers as their saviors I know I sound like an reaper apologist but the only reason the reapers seem weak is because we don’t get to watch them fought in proper warfare only cheap shots and jumping them with stupid amounts of numbers if the helldivers and super earth don’t get a heads up the reapers would just shrug off everything thrown at them unless they get lucky and hit the weakspot their cannon that fires molten Iron-Uranium-Tungsten Alloy at at near light speeds

[@You_Explain_My_Comics_TY]

40+ minute video. Hell yeah. Hoorah I'm locked in

[@Idealgame806]

I gotta say this guy has downplayed mass effect, not by a lot, but he has downplayed it where it hits hard. Now i'm no hell divers, master lore so I can't tell you if he's down playing then or upscaled it, but for a few corrections, yes, it took 3 characters, the main character in 2NP CS to destroy an incomplete reaper. No, it was not a satellite that killed the. Reaper, it was just thousands of ships of an alien group. That were exiled from their home planet. All shooting simultaneously from thousands of ships. Not only that, but the reefers and mass effect head a win ratio of a of a million wins and zero losses, they have had a one hundred percent success rate and harvesting.All organic life

[@davidgray3061]

Commander Jane Shepard is already a Helldiver she is just in the wrong game.

[@CamPhillips-ll5tk]

Looking good rabid

[@dragonturtle2703]

I think a big advantage of the ME guns is probably that the ammo is so small. Not only can you lay down a lot of fire without having to reload, but also it is really small, so the force is really concentrated. Though, probably also means they have a lot of range drop off, less the long range rounds are larger than normal to help with that. I think that might be the reason combustion weapons were outdated (those guns needing normal sized bullets), but just speculation.

[@danielmorris-ruckett913]

A pointed note to Rouga's comparison of ftl speeds between the verses and their durability. In mass effect the mass relays see the ships actually moving at ftl and above speeds. The point of lowering their mass is to counteract that issues of a mass object moving that fast. Light is a massless particle. Thats why its unaffected by the negative effects that would entail going light speed with mass. In addition less mass means less energy used to get up in speed. In contrast. Rouga himself in I believe the Halo vs Helldivers video pointed out that Helldivers ships warp space for ftl travel. When you do that. The ship itself isn't moving ftl. Your contracting space in front of the ship then expanding it back to normal behind you. Part of the reason its theoretically allowed in irl with the laws of physics is because the ship and its crew never actually go ls or ftl. Casuality is maintained. No paradoxes. Because of this as well. Helldiver ships wouldn't experience ls or ftl strain. And so would'nt have that as a comparison

[@metadude1234]

Would be funny to see a what if of the Turians attacking a Super Earth held Shanxi; since the Turians idea of a slap would be met with an entire truck in response

[@fbisurveillancevan2254]

The strength of managed democracy cannot be defeated.

[@flynvascense9405]

33:00 I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Storm trooper core is not the main fighting force of the empire in Star Wars. It's the Imperial army. Which consists of mostly everyday citizens of the empire. The Stormtrooper core is a specialist group of the Army. That is engaged in more secretive, guarding, and law enforcement endeavors.

[@famsyrk8839]

Rouga!! Let's get it.

[@joshuamoore9875]

Starcraft vs helldivers

[@JustSomeGuy9]

Now starcraft would destroy the helldivers

[@felipedelrioalvarez6335]

​@@JustSomeGuy9 what faction whe talk about ? Protos probably if the helldivers dont make technology to destroy energy shield.... they have enough fire power to deatroy protoss Zerg? Terminds are same shiet and the helldivers have weapons againtz the biological monster Terran? They dont have enough people to fight A FRIXKIN GALAXY OF CRAZY MANIACS

[@someoneidk2804]

@@felipedelrioalvarez6335 do you actually know how crazy StarCraft gets in the lore or do you just know it from gameplay cus lore StarCraft absolutely destroys helldivers

[@skell6134]

@@someoneidk2804 I dont need to know shit if i know that any problem can be solved with 500kg and orbital laser

[@the0s0ph1st]

Nah Super Earth will wipe the Starcraft galaxy. Super Earth has a whole galaxy worth of manpower and resources. In Starcraft remember that no matter how fractured the Terrans were they could still win battles against the Protoss and Zerg with weapons and tactics Super Earth conceivably has or even better. Now if the factions of Starcraft work with each other, sure they could have a chance. But even then I can see many subfactions of Terrans joining Super Earth willingly. Remember that many Terran worlds were frontier worlds cut off from interplanetary governments, and I can imagine them getting enamored by managed democracy's brand of stability and liberty.

[@thefogg]

28:12 you could say that the reaper will say "i am democracy, we do democracy". you now have super earth instantly aligned with the reapers. you'd have heros then do missions that would be in a sense "liberating" and that would be destroying a planet in the ME series. what i am getting to is, the reapers would be creating what ME2 baddies are, the collectors

[@dragonturtle2703]

There are more people who are effected. There is that asari woman in ME 1, a Sylurian group at one point, and a group of humans where you blow up a relay to delay the reapers. Probably more. The big thing about indoctrination is, the faster it goes, the less subtle and the more damaging it is. For instance, that Sylurian team was given the fast route, and they were borderline zombies.

[@dragonturtle2703]

They did build a kill switch. It was just the citadel. I imagine the reason would be that, they don't want people to find that kill switch.

[@someoneidk2804]

Alright could a unified helldivers universe survive in the StarCraft universe?(it can’t)

[@the0s0ph1st]

Nah Super Earth would win. Even the fractured Terrans can win in battles against the Zerg and Protoss with weapons and tactics Super Earth definitely has or even have better. For example, Super Earth stims are way better than Terran stims since they also heal from grievous injury. And yet Super Earth has a whole galaxy worth of personnel and matériel. And remember that many Terran worlds are frontier worlds cut off from interplanetary governments, I can totally see many of them joining Super Earth's brand of stability and liberty.

[@cjbladesworth8049]

Update: Helldivers can resist being made into voteless by the illuminate spires and thus also can resist indoctrination Edit: Also, Super Earth. DOES have a navy, there are bigger ships than super destroyers so SEAF may have good assets

[@e.m.4738]

Imagine Multiple Galaxy's collide in the same time. The Star Wars Galaxy in the time of the Old Republic, the Mass Effect Galaxy, Warhammer 40k Galaxy, Halo Galaxy, Doom Ethernal and Helldivers. Could you make a Video on how they would react and how this situation could evolve?

[@phillipgeorge5909]

Reapers don't want to repair the mass relays so they don't turn them off

[@gorasul12]

From what I remember so did the Protheans fight well against the reapers, they lost because the relay network was shut of and the reapers took their planets one by one so the reapers are most dangerous when they work slowly 🤔

[@maplemayhem1988]

Super Earth has better FTL, population I'm uncertain about, but small arms are 100% in favor of the Citadel races

[@kenethernandez6246]

We don't have a specific population for super earth but he got the amount of helldivers wrong. In the second galactic war which started around 9 months ago helldivers have lost over 100 billion units and they are considered the elite force that makes up a minority of the super earth military so that tells you a lot about how large the total population and the rest of the military is.

[@noneedtoknow07]

It's been theorized by fans that Mass Effect Kinetic barriers don't stop lasers. Meaning the sickle and scythe guns would mow down most people while the heavier lasers would melt vehicles.

[@Protectorofchi11i]

Is this a confirmed thing or a fan theory?

[@noneedtoknow07]

@Protectorofchi11i I just look it up on the ME wiki there is a gardian laser in universe that bypasses kinetic barriers.

[@Yeetboisapprentice9676]

I’d really love an episode that’s attack on titan based like ‘could these characters survive in the world of attacks on titan’ or ‘could these characters stop the rumbling’ idk if you’ve watched the show yourself and idk anyone you could colab with but I do implore you to watch the show cause it is peak fiction.

[@pirateslifeforme7158]

Hi there Rouga. I have been watching your channel for a few months now. I enjoy your content. Listen I was wondering , when finish with this Helldivers videos and you come back to survival challenges can you add John Cooper from Desperados wanted dead or alive series. I don't know if you played it but it's basically a series of games when you use different type of tricks to kill people. What I found interesting about this one is the fact that John isn't superhuman,just a dude with a gun and a knife but he is super skilled at racking up huge body counts through guerilla tactics. And also he if from a relatively unknown game series so you put to light an obscure series. Love your work , and be safe out there .

[@JonthanWardlaw]

The hanar and rackni is getting squeezed for oil instantly. Also imigine if the helldivers figured out the biotics. Also the helldivers would just dark fluid a planet or use the battle station to wipe out a huge chunk of the planet. Also the helldivers could use the bug spores against the mass effect universe's. They were farming the bugs for oil for like 200 years or 300 years. All they gotta do is put some big spores into something and shoot it at a planet. Even if the middle doesn't make it planet side. The spores will still get there cause the spores travel by themselves from planet to planet. That just benefits the helldiver's. Gives them more oil and gas for the war.

[@JosephDarc]

Did my part.. Good luck!

[@rickwitt7373]

Rough, everyday I wake up in the army is a terrible day.

[@Reaperfighter04]

In ME2 you destroy a mass relay to stop the reapers from coming. That destroys an entire star system. Also the Krogan can repopulate super fast and some also have biotics as well as healing during combat. All Asari have biotics that are more powerful then any other biotic. Not to mention Mass Effect races have a habit of turning Asteroids and moons into weapons by putting thrusters and targeting guidance systems on them which can take as long as a day or two at most. Mass Effect ships don't need to use Mass Relays either they do have FTL travel the Mass Relays just give instantaneous travel. Also it is in the codexs where the Reapers wipe out entire citites like Hamburg, Adelaide and Fort Worth that have populations in the low millions straight away so they do have that power. Some ships in Mass Effect also have Silaris armour which is stated to be stronger thrn the titanium alloy of the other ships. Mass Effect species have also mastered Particle and Kenetic weaponry while making Energy weaponry obsolete it is only Plasma, Explosive, Cryo and Incineration weaponry that Mass Effect armour and shielding is weak too. For example 7.62 fmj is what the Alliance was using during the First Contact War was said to be useless by the Turians. Point is i think this war would end in a bloody stalemate or would go on for too long for either side.

[@roseerina]

SEAF troops have access to many armored vehicles, artillery that can straight up shoot out a mini nuke and SEAF bomber which is basically an upgrade version of our Stealth Bomber irl, that can carry tons of of bomb, even nuke.

[@rougarabid]

Sure. They’re still a military. But they don’t get destroyers or strategems which is what makes Helldivers so dangerous.

[@roseerina]

@@rougarabid Yeah, but I don’t think they will lose simply because they don’t have crazy shi like Helldiver’s. Their fire power is still strong enough to overcome their enemies defense. So IMO, they can still win the battle.

[@rougarabid]

They don’t have shielding which is a death sentence for them. It will take them a dozen shots to put down an enemy and one shot to be put down. Can’t undersell how invaluable a rechargeable energy shield is.

[@bastiangaete2419]

​@rougarabid SEAF troops are garrison forces, so I bet they can hold, and with the super destroyers and communications, I bet that by the time they breach the SEAF troops, they will have Helldivers landing on top of them. Imagine a position of SEAF troops been overwhelmed and then they see 4 exosuits landing and start raining fire on the Mass Effect troops. The biggest flaw of Mass Effect Universe is their lack of QRF(Quick Reaction Force) In Helldivers they get notification of a planet been attack and within 2 hours you have at least 10k helldivers already fighting, coming to defend from every corner of the galaxy. And don't forget SEAF troppers are mostly a defensive force, all their weaponry is base on a defense doctrine, they have their bomber, their artillery pieces, armored vehicles and since they have access to the same weapons as helldivers. Helldivers can win however casualties will be high but they have blitzkrieg on their side.

[@Majin_Koolaid]

Love your vids, but here you're completely ignoring what happens when you blow up a mass relay. It releases a massive amount of energy, and destroy a whole system, as seen with the Batarians.

[@rougarabid]

I’m not ignoring it. It’s just not a factor. I’ve said before Helldivers don’t care about their own lives. They would not care to destroy a system if it meant cutting off all travel from their enemies.. It would mean virtually nothing for super earth to send in one destroyer blow it up while they waits on the outside of the system. If they steal one which chances are they will to study it they will very likely be aware of its volatility and will know what destroying it will do.

[@GregoryDai]

dont stop this is amazing

[@pimpdemon9458]

So how do you know its the metal of super destroyers that is protecting the ship from mftl travel? This is something i always wondered about. 🤔 Second you have this very stupid problem of "oh because the guns are more destructive they most be better" The answer to that is actually no it doesn't work like that. You can have a weapon that is extremely powerful but will only do as much damage as like well a grenade. This is very much the case with mass effect ship weapons. Now i wont be like "oh mass effect ship weapons are more powerful than the space station" those stations are more powerful thats just obvious. However if we compare something like the main gun from like a Everest dreadnought to like the 500kg bomb mass effect fucking dominantes now what is the difference between these two? Well luckily for me i dont have to do some stupid, pixel calc thing or look at how big the explosions are, or anything like that, and the reason for that is we know how powerful both guns are. The 500kg bomb is well 500 kg of tnt its a 500 kg bomb which is like 2 billion joules or something if you convert it to joules. Meanwhile the Everest dreadnought main gun fires a projectile with enough force to generate 38 kilotons of force (yes this is stated in mass effect 2) Now than what is the difference in power between the two well the mass effect gun is about a 75 thousands times difference thats an insane amount of difference. And the reapers can survive multiple of these shots before going down. So to say a super destroyer, can instantly destroy a reaper that is blantly wrong. "but pimp what if they fired all Their guns at the same time at the reaper" well while that would increase the power decently i dont think 1 shot or firing from every single gun would equal a 75 thousands times fucking boost! Over time they can create that Much power but not like instantly. But you know what im gonna be super fair and say every gun firing is a 2000 times boost. Which is you know complete wank like just jerking off super destroyers fingering them to the ultimate climax! Now how long would it take the super destroyer to equal the power of 1 Everest dreadnought main gun welp if they fired a new shot every single second it take about 37 seconds to equal just 1 shot. So no helldiver ship weapons arent more powerful they more destructive but they arent more powerful stop this Bullshit of "bigger boom means better guns" its stupid

[@kenethernandez6246]

He got it wrong. The super destroyers don't actually fly across space at ftl. They bend space around the ship to warp that's why it's so fast but the ship doesn't physically travel interplanetary distances like in mass effect so I disagree with the point he tried to make about ship durability based on ftl travel. I agree with you as well to a certain extent but not entirely. The eagle airstrike is not a ship canon or anything of that sort. It's delivered by a jet basically. So it's not exactly a canon on the super destroyer. That would be something like the barrages and orbital rail canon strikes and lasers with the second 2 having no specific calcs in terms of their condensed power and as you mentioned yourself, bigger doesn't equal stronger so who's to say a laser or rail canon isn't more powerful than a 500kg? We don't really know so you're assuming but we know that a super destroyer has 4000 megatons worth of firepower on board and it wouldn't be remotely close to that with just eagle airstrikes alone so it's safe to say that the majority of that fire power does come in the form of the actual super destroyer canons aka the barrages, rail canon and laser.

[@pimpdemon9458]

@kenethernandez6246 well unless you can prove those other things are more powerful i think its simply better to make the assumption they are around the same level. And even if they are more powerful you run into the problem of how much powerful are they and thats because more powerful is such a vague term. Its actually 2000 megatons Worth of firepower which sounds impressive and it is however you have to realize that can simply be talking about the combined ammo the ship has aka the total firepower

[@wyatteason1876]

We got to get bricky on this

[@Voidsterrr]

The Democracy Officer literally days xenocide is good

[@SonicFrake]

You know those tips that appear when you're diving to a planet in Helldivers? One of them says only traitors are curious about alien artifacts. If there's a non racist explanation as to why Super Earth would deem you a traitor for showing even the slightest interest in another race I'd love to hear it. I'd understand if it was the Iluminate but it doesn't mention any specific alien race. You could find an artifact belonging to an alien race with the same ideology as Super Earth and if that interests you then you get a special seat at the next dissident execution.

[@OrderEternal]

"The cope is strong with this one" surely this is rage bait right? It wasn't a satelite laser, it was a targeting system linked to an entire fleet all firing on the Reapers one weak spot, and they had to fire salvo upon salvo. Even after allll that gun fire, it wasn't even dead yet. The Reaper combat downplay, is insane. If it only takes one Helldiver ship to beat one Reaper. Then the Automatons in Helldivers would be extinct by now.

[@rougarabid]

Show me a reaper surviving being hit with enough power to blow up a planet or moon. Show me literally any weapon in Mass Effect having that level of destructive power. If you can’t find it then any basic Destroyer could one shot any ship in the ME universe.

[@OrderEternal]

I can't find anything saying a single Destoryer has enough to annihilate a planet or moon with one shot. But if it does, I concede. All and all it wasn't a bad vid. Would be cool to watch you play ME if you ever want to get into it

[@rougarabid]

@@OrderEternal I’ve beat all 3 several times. Tried Andromeda. Didn’t finish it.

[@OrderEternal]

@@rougarabid based

[@bryany.ramosortiz6709]

Warhammer 40k vs helldivers

[@You_Explain_My_Comics_TY]

The gun technology is impressive thoo

[@Wisdombird]

RAAAAAAAAHHH IM BACK! And I didn’t hear MONSTER HUNTER in that collaboration list! But anyways hopefully you can get some since I enjoyed watching a bit of that war hammer collab

[@rougarabid]

Up to y’all. Only so much I can do.

[@Wisdombird]

Didn’t mean for this shit to be this long, so just read this if anything: There’s a shit ton in MH that may or may not be true and not all too many people to collab with. So although it’s cool and there’s many possibilities I 100% understand if we never get it to happen. Everything else down here is whatever: I love spouting about a possible monster hunter video in these comment sections since it is packed with all sorts of cool possibilities. Also scalers love making it absolutely insanely strong. MH is certainly full of very powerful things (even the basic creatures are like dinosaurs on steroids) such as the elders, but some people make it out a bit tooooo ridiculous. Even the shit that IS able to threaten entire kingdoms or all of humanity is exceptionally rare, it’s not something a common guy would deal with. Mainly it’s neat because of how based MH is in actual “grounded” biology and science, it would be interesting watching the hunters interact with actual magic and other characters deal with the sheer might of nature itself.

[@oranos2276]

think about it this way. helldivers technology is the reason the reapers use mass effect technology as a trap. the reapers dont wanna deal with that shit.

[@thefogg]

23:49 wait. in both games there is an issue. supply lines both games address it. now helldivers at first, didn't mention it. but now we have supply lines. its something as old as our current day of warfare. that can make either superior by cutting a line. Edit: ME3 only mentions them, its not so much a mission to secure a line.

[@talonus202]

You are vastly overlooking the threat of indoctrination. The "dragon's teeth" used by the geth is a form of their conversion tech and isn't part of indoctrination. This is also done on the reapers themselves and at a much faster rate. You are correct that there are a few different versions of indoctrination, though. The difference is all about the speed of "corruption" and the effect on target. 1. First is the long, slow method that makes sleeper/double agents like Saren and Illusive man. This is what you talked about taking years of exposure to accomplish. This makes agents that seem 100% normal until they activate to accomplish their mission, which could be months or years later. An example is Rana Thanoptis, an asari scientist (a neurologist, I think) working on Saren's Krogan project who you can let go in the first 2 games and in the 3rd game, she will assassinate major asari military officials and off herself afterward. 2. The next form of indoctrination isn't really official, but it seems to come up a bunch. I call it the "Cult indoctrination." It centers around reaper artifacts and takes effect in roughly a year. These artifacts are basically thrall bait left behind by the reapers to be found by people and put them under the spell to worship the Reapers and do their bidding as minions. Best example of this is the Alliance team from the Arrival DLC and Object Rho. They had that artifact for less than 2 yrs (the time Shepard was dead for) and that was enough to flip them from "lets destroy a relay and kill hundred to stop the reapers" to "I welcome our mechanical overlords. Kill Shepard." 3. The last is the shortest term in both exposure time and usefulness of the thrall. We don't really really see a good example of this one, but it is mentioned in the codex. Basically, this indoctrination takes as little as a few days or even hours but is so damaging to the brain of the victim that they are only useful for the most basic of task before their brain is barbecued and they are nothing but a husk. I like to compare this to the Marker from Dead Space and how some people can be reduced to howling psychopaths almost overnight. A final point I'd like to make about indoctrination is that it doesn't just play on your fears or doubts but on your desires as well. It used Saren's hatred for humans and his desire to wipe them out initially but then used his fear of the Reapers themselves later. As for the Illusive man, they used his desire to save humanity and destroy the Reapers and warped it into a desire to control the Reapers themselves. This is where I think the Helldivers would be in trouble as it wouldn't use fear or doubt to influence them it would use their rabid patriotism to turn them against each other. Seep into their minds through their propaganda or confuse their orders. We already have Chaosdivers amongst the ranks. Is it so hard to believe that a few whispers and voices could influence the manic patriotism of the divers?

[@the_good_frog]

we need more helldivers

[@forrestshull4643]

Next do 8 helldivers vs carnifix

[@Unknown-xr1iz]

Would Sera from Gears of war survive "X" invasions? As a possible video idea. You could maybe do multiple rounds for each era and a hypothetical if the locust and humans team up. I don't expect them to win. I just would love to see how the Nids from WH40K would interact with lambits.

[@shardinhand1243]

41:11 i like your thinkin!... higher mass bigger boom, also super earth would definatly order some of the mass effect biotic soldiers to be captured for study, theres no way you introduce such a tech to the helldivers and they dont turn it on you. now you have helldivers with super powers which sounds pretty damn cool, i hope the devs of helldivers 2 get on that.

[@michaelroy7754]

The reapers can turn iff the relays the controls are just on the citadel

[@evanblankenship5887]

Are you familiar with Roanoke gaming

[@rougarabid]

I’ve been told before that I remind people of it, but no, I’ve never seen the channel myself.

[@entei7958]

Will you do a survival chalange with xeelee sequence?

[@Baba_Lysaga]

idk I like the video but I really feel like you either dont know enough about mass effect or you are just really underestimating the universe

[@shardinhand1243]

my man rouga forgot general brasch and john helldiver sure wars arint won by single soldiers, but it would help.

[@tommytymesaame6624]

Misunderstanding the physics of how different firearms function and ignoring multiple whole ass missions about indoctrination i generally agree with the rest but as examples you dont have to have a big whole blow into you becuase the velocity of the projectile it can actually do less damage as it is in contact with the target for less time shortening the time for energy to transfer from projectile to target. And there are missions where a guy was studing repert tech for like 2 months and was totally indoctrinated it can happen pretty quick and its common for the indoctrinated not to know that they are

[@dirk903]

Haha when Terra Firma becomes a threat

[@edgelessuser5]

Each Helldiver is basically like Commander Shepherd the way I see it lol

[@dragonturtle2703]

It's a bit semantic, but the husk thing isn't indoctrination.

[@mateusznowak5805]

@rougarabid you forget super destroyers travels through supply lines

[@jarlalleouros7308]

I can already see ultra heavy armor lovers cheering for body slam attacks. Decrease mass, use jet pack, increase mass, obliterate objective. I mean, why don't they incorporate auto mass increasing tech in armors upon impact? Same volume, but increase mass, increases density. Higher density, even for a moment would make it incredibly difficult for weapons to pierce through. Law of inertia. So many loopholes and unexplored potential.

[@maplemayhem1988]

On the topic of Super Earth Xenophobia. I think many people assumed their leaderships evil traint to be more like the Imperium of man. Its is more of like real life.

[@thehermitman822]

I can see you getting along with MajorKill.

[@abbieee69]

Nah majorkill will see him as a onemindsnydicate sorta channel and just roast rouga for all his bullcrap he's spouted in alot or his videos ya see rouga doesn't play the games he does videos on he just watches other peoples channels and uses there information in his videos and most of the time he gets it wrong 😂

[@thehermitman822]

@abbieee69 tbh, they sound a lot alike to me.

[@entei7958]

Korekt me but aret the reaper indocrination isit radio/microławe?

[@SephirothXValentine]

Each helldiver ship can level africa. None of mass effects ships can quote that level of power en masse for millions of ships. Even the reapers ain't gonna do shit.

[@GamerGuy1619]

No the shield can recharge even if its taken down just make sure the machine doesnt break

[@ruweberiv]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence 😂

[@dravengarcia8658]

I just thought of a awesome idea how would characters such as raiden (pronounced r i den) from metal gear, ultron etc, do against the cyberpunk universe

[@dravengarcia8658]

(Ultron and raiden are the only two I thought about at the time)

[@ValiantInfamy]

yeee keep milkin that Helldiver train. I'm only here for the helldivers atm but hey maybe ill stick around after the wave is over.

[@thefogg]

the kill switch you speak of when it comes to the mass relays. they wouldn't put a kill switch. since they created the relays to harvest advanced organics. the reapers also dont have a infinite amount of energy/ezoo. jumping from planet to planet helps them in gaining ezoo after the harvest. at least, that is what i gathered. and you can blame EA on an incomplete game, story wise. since dark energy use was hinted in the second and then abandoned. to which it would make using the relays decay the galaxy. making the reapers essentially "the good guys".

[@herrfantastisch7489]

I honestly think this is such a good mash up that could go either way. Because every Helldiver is canon to its lore, so you have hundreds of thousands of Super Destroyers alone which is so insane. I think rough estimates of say, the Turian fleet, which is almost as large as a combined Salari and Asari fleet, is like 40k ships. Quarians have 50k ships, and everyone has much less. So Helldivers outnumbers them so much in just SDs, not even considering their other possible ships, but imo, Mass Effect ships are incredibly higher quality. So I think it could go either way. That, and ME makes up for tech for what Helldivers has in numbers and resources, but Helldivers and Super Earth are crafty as hell. Those dudes are definitely gonna steal that Reaper tech or get indoctrinated even more lmao

[@thefogg]

the number of HD SD i saw last night was 65K, before i went to bed

[@herrfantastisch7489]

@ True, but I usually count the peak players on that one day, which was 500k give or take.

[@johnarcher6150]

The high quality goes to living space enhancements, not combat potential.

[@dilldowd8877]

Re algorithm Re appease the machine spirit

[@ultraepicogamer7296]

Niw that i see the announce im worry now that you might not know how would a vs between Automatons and the CIS Droid army because that would be an amazing video

[@nathanevans3506]

SEF would still have decent armor, of course, but it wouldn't be top quality since you need to outfit millions of regular troops, same thing with weapons quantity or quality and would be limited to but that's not to say some of the soldier won't have some of the helldiver guns like machine guns, snipers, rocket launcher, and grenade launcher etc. SEF would probably have more armored vehicles to play with and heavy artillery dirt side compared to the helldivers. Helldivers are special forces designed to go behind enemy lines to f**k sh*t up, your cut off from the Frontline troops and there support so to increase missions success rate we going to give you a whole a** space ship to support you instead