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Season of Discovery is buzzing with PvP talks lately. The PvP aura weekend? Vibes were good, but we need tweaks on those hard-hitting abilities. Best and worst? New spells and rune system? Awesome! But balancing them? Meh. And don't even get me started on the alt grind. We're craving more endgame content too!
Mists of Pandaria Remix drops next week And Diablo 4? Season 4 is bringing some serious upgrades and Corepunk beta? Let's hope it's smoother this time around.
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02:43 - BEST & WORST Features In SoD
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17:55 - YOUR Top Comments!

[@TheComebackKids]

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[@Xlapus]

Re: ride kaiju. There is also a Ride Mech(Mek? Forgot how it's spelled) ability in the data. I would bet some new ungoro event or quest. Maybe pvp?

[@AmongRevenants]

What do we know about the Lava Lash situation? They lock us last Friday with free xfers butchering a very fun and friendly realm.... ...then unlock Lava Lash again after the weekend. While xfers are still free to CS and WG. Why would the devs fuck with us like that?

[@Coofies]

The vast majority of people calling for 20/40 man raids are not the ones organizing and leading them, reaching out to the same people every week making sure they’ll be there and trying to fill for them when they don’t show up. They’re not the ones recruiting and maintaining the roster. They’re not the ones having their time and efforts disrespected.

[@OrionP4]

Amen

[@Muranight]

thats ur problem dude, look for better ppl

[@Coofies]

@@Muranight "That's your problem." You're right, I'm just another random dude on the internet trying to put a raid together. I'm making it my problem. That said, the game needs people like me to lead these raids. If people aren't willing to step up and deal with it, raids never happen. I can tell you of the 20 people in my raid, 19 of them will not step up and put in the level of effort that I have. 9 of those 19 people are people I have been playing with for the last 3-5 years, and I can tell you if I stop raid leading, they'll just quit playing. It's not just my problem. The less people you have leading, the less people you have raiding. The less people you have raiding, the faster the game dies. You sound like someone who has never tried to recruit or lead a raid. I've been doing it for the last 4 years.

[@brandonwilson4740]

10 mans aren't raids. They're glorified dungeons. My guild has no problem pugging a few people each week. The hardest part of raid leading in sod is having enough space in your bads for all the crafting mats and boss items so you don't have to roll loot until the end.

[@Coofies]

@@brandonwilson4740 Having to PUG every week kills morale even if the raids are easy. I've always maintained a roster. Having the same people each week means people aren't just leaving with the best items. Maybe if Blizz decided to make more than one set of weapons actually viable and not contested to the point where half the raid is after them, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. PUGs are also a mixed bag and you never know what you're going to get. Maybe 10 man raids aren't the answer, but neither is increasing to 40 man.

[@strange.277]

I'm an "altoholic" and phase 1 was really really easy to play multiple characters (not just because level cap was 25). now in phase 3 i cant bring myself to even log on my main anymore because if i dont keep up with gold farming i have no good consumables or personal effects that i like bringing to a raid environment. it feels like a chore now. just going to wait for kharazan crypts raid

[@YumYumturtle-ck3uw]

I also really want kara crypts but I don't think it was ever officially confirmed

[@strange.277]

@@YumYumturtle-ck3uw it wasn't officially, no. but it was hard teased, and i will keep huffing my copium for that

[@aaronkeefz5815]

Yeah it's hard to keep up with consume prices

[@idkidgaf]

Problem is you can't exactly just "wait for Kharazan crypts" when guilds and even pugs will be requiring gearscore and parses. You'll need parses from the previous raid tier at least plus more or less full gear.

[@strange.277]

@@idkidgaf I'm a 90+ avg I'm not worried about that. And if I wasn't I have a guild anyway

[@Gotnosocks]

Blizzard is making moves and it’s bigger than we thought! Video: there hasn’t been official news release lately… 😂

[@DreuuRose]

He click baiting us like we won’t leave for the next big thing

[@edwinvermeulen8187]

At first the channel was good, but lately its full of blizzard sponsered propaganda.

[@dr00evoIX]

And crying about a healing spec being bottom dps don’t forget 😂

[@NFRSM]

crying for heroic dungeons so his 5 man guild can do something

[@Boumgty]

I mean he apparently hates incursion but a few weeks ago he was praising it so his opinions are kinda...

[@ddraig2833]

Its not because of Cataclysm its because they hyped up SoD and failed on promises. Making incursions give insane gold, xp (even after nerf) and rep...at 25 you can be friendly/honored before hitting level 50 which then you can instantly buy 6 pieces ready for ST...They did incursions so we dont spam dungeons which killed off most SM runs yet you get books from these old dungeons and priest needs pain supression from sm lib...Which is frustrating and Blizz contradicts themselvs as people are spamming mara for wild offerings and doing logout skip to spam it fast and ST is on a weekly lockout. You can also get 1k rep daily from incursions rep and pvp rep to point everyone can be exalted before 60 and classic relied on these factors for slow progression which means there is nothing to do except logon to do ST for an hour or two and logoff and all pops show now medium for both US and EU people will deny it but sod is dying fast. Also Aggrend stated the goal on hard content...He thinks players want easy casual and blast things so no we shouldnt have faith in devs...they let us down and pre patch cata is full of bugs which is same dev team as sod...No faith when they keep letting us down

[@nurotic3260]

The 20 man raid and people saying its hard to get groups together is because of the parse culture. The people saying that it is hard to get groups together, are looking for the best classes and specs, to play along with performance. And on top of that, they are looking for one or two specific classes and specs to boost there own damage, like, Feral or Balance druid. Over all this 20 man raid size being too large, is a player made issue, by everyone wanting to mid-max there dps.

[@aaronheffernan3044]

There currently 187 people raiding Horde on Penance AU, we take anyone we can get. We weren't a large server in the first place but it's less than half the people raiding compared to Phase 2. 10 Man's are just easier to organise and give each player more agency.

[@lyon666]

I have never seen so many (but small) guilds in all of my 20yrs in wow. I think ytube raid guides causes alot of ppl to create guilds with a few friends cuz they think they have the info they need to clear the raid. Leading a guild takes alot more than that, its always been hard work and the smaller the guild is the harder that work is.

[@GokuIRL]

Bro, 20 man raids DID NOT kill my guild but made them more fun. We like them. And we have 3X 20mans. If we go back to 10 mans we would quit if that's all we get

[@Fishlampclock]

Simple solution to the raid size problem. Make all raids 10 and 20m. The 10m drops loot at normal rate and 20m drops loot at 3x the rate. This way, the incentive to do 20m is the gear is 3x the amount not 2x so people who want to gear up much faster would do so in bigger raid size whereas everyone can still do the content in 10m.

[@naturalyamazing]

Not a bad idea but the fear is that will effectively just make 20m the default. Maybe that swells guilds, idk

[@kiirbstomp]

Just play cata

[@Fishlampclock]

@@naturalyamazing Yes and no. The min-maxers will absolutely default to 20m but this still allows all of the 10m folk the opportunity to do the content as a 10m, albeit they'll gear up slower by comparison. If they insist on going to 40m they can even up the gear maybe to 4x if necessary to "motivate" raiders to the larger raid size while still keeping 10m guilds alive. My guild died as a result of p3 with the swap to 20m. I think I could bring them back if 10m were still viable.

[@neoikake]

flex raid or LK raid size is bad.

[@TaehunGrammar]

BRING BACK 10 MANS! BRING BACK 10 MANS!

[@ryanpellegrini1023]

I came over to SOD because I'm what most would consider a casual Andy. I'm married with 2 kids, obviously work a full time job, and coach 4 baseball/softball teams. What I loved about SOD was I could just pick up and play when I had free time, and just wanted to unwind for a few. It "was" easy to find pugs for P1 and 2 to complete the raid lockout in 30 to 45 minutes. It was great. You felt accomplished without having had to invest hours of farming, wiping, etc.. P3 complete killed that feeling for me and now it feels like a chore to get you runes and gear. Hell I haven't even been to the new raid because I can't commit to specific raid times, and on my server you never see pugs. Again this is just my experience and I'm sure there are a bunch of people out there who love the current state of SOD

[@danielcanty5727]

I feel like there is a combination of problems. SoD P3 was a drop in the player base and they increased the number of people required for raiding. This 2 problems combined make each other worse. More people quitting -> harder to get raiders + you need 20 players -> less raiding -> the people that do raid are the "HC" players/raiders = a big mess.

[@rodgoesinya9947]

Wrong, the people that raid are in guilds

[@critical3337]

I agree it was easier to find raids when people weren't locked down to a raid instance once a week. It was also a massive L for them to change the raid size when they knew cataclysm was coming out.

[@simonramos5553]

Raising once a week is better otherwise your expected to raid double time in guild rosters

[@danielcanty5727]

@@simonramos5553 I don't mind the time thing. I mind the fact that most people don't have that time in one sitting and a most of the current raiding culture is "do it in one sitting"

[@SimonRobeyns]

i will be a 100% back if 40 mans are coming next phase f 10 mans, those who ask for it can go play dungeons instead cuz thats exactly what it feels like during BFD and gnome, ST was a massive step up in raiding fun for me

[@GoldbondPowder]

Having to server hop twice has really destroyed any effort i had beyond 1 toon.

[@intsik2000]

On the contrary, the 20-man raid made our guild stronger and united, as now almost all guild member can now join the raid together. No one is being left out anymore. Cheers!

[@watsyballin23]

I had like 5 Alts in p1, then 3 in p2, then just my main for p3….doing the dark riders chain over and over is an easy example of it being so time intensive.

[@luuf_tv]

It was the incursion reps and wild offerings for me on my alt.. I still have one completely up to date alt... but for more than 2 toons it killed it for me.

[@Aklamore]

20 man raids is the reason it takes my guild 1 hour to pug 4 people, just to have the raid done in 55 minutes

[@Cipher8721]

Lol 55min to pug 4 people...sure bud, stop being picky and stop praising logs

[@Aklamore]

@Cipher8721 were only picky for the first 10-15 minutes, then we just take anyone that isn't a grey parser, almost no one is lfg for raids on Wild Growth it seems

[@lfcooker1001]

Look for people before raid invites start so no one has to wait​@@Aklamore

[@goose1965]

I think one of the failings with SoD is they are being too safe with the changes. It’s a seasonal realm. Go nuts.

[@therealmoto3676]

what we need is no external addons, no parsing! raid that every classic andy can complete!

[@utubefordan]

Every classic Andy CAN complete these raids. Even grey parses are 8/8

[@Rakschas666]

Fuck. that. noise. I remember when the game was like that and we whiped for weeks on twin emperors because some lobotomite warrior kept aggroing the neutral beetles with demo shout and those promptly enrages and started killing our healers. It didnt show on recount and there were no detailed logs at the time. No. The very notion that peace love and friendship through obfuscation of mistakes of would improve the experience for anyone but the worst fuckups is arbitrary at best and better described as completely mental.

[@bossmanhax4523]

@@Rakschas666wish i’ve experienced this.. started WoW with SoD… left with this phase tbh :(

[@Rakschas666]

One of the things kinda taking the wind out of many peoples sails is the very flatt item progression curve. There is barely an increase from the gnomer gear, so Ive had plenty of mates go "meh, not gonna do this or that or whatnot activity the item is locked behind for an increase of 2 main stat or 3 spellpower, if even that.". I mean, I understand why they flattened the item power progression curve and it totaly makes sense. But at the same time I think they VASTLY underestimated the importance of noticeable (!) player power upgrades through itemization to the classic/sod community.

[@Snorisback]

Heroic dungeons is one of those things. You think you want them but you don’t. People will do them for two weeks and never go back. And the same thing that happens with raids will happen with heroic dungeons. Gear score achievement parse linking. Because people don’t want to be punished for failing…

[@NFRSM]

yeah heroic dungeons in vanilla is a bad idea, this guy just plays in a small guild that cant get 20 people together to do raids so he wants harder 5 man content

[@bladetheman]

Got three takes on this 1. The problems with runes are they make some specs unplayable, like frostmage or 2h enhancement. You just cant play a spec doing 50% less dmg 2.The solution for incursions would be, remove rng from quest, remove gathering quest. And make it so you have to do all 15 quest to reset it. So the braindead pickup runs wont work. 3. The 20man raids and difficulty of them, like brd any time of day you hade time to play there was a pug going more or less. ST the pugs you see is "St at 21:00 need x" Bonus. Worldbuffs needs to go. Shouldent work in raids. They are a chore to get, they affect things to much like pharses, and pharses are affecting if you can join or not becuase of the incresed setup time for a raid

[@tyhyhh]

I play 2h enh and yeah I do like 200dps less than the dw enh shams in the guild a big part is having to use my maelstrom on lava burst and basically losing an ability

[@DarkKniteZ]

I love world buffs. They are optional. You aren’t forced to get them. Many people like to min max

[@bladetheman]

@@DarkKniteZ Yeah i know many ppl like them. But they make the game worse. Because you are more or less forced to get them. Most guilds have them as a req and all pugs. And you need them to phars good, and you need good logs for pugs

[@bladetheman]

@@tyhyhh yeah i have more or less bis gear on my shaman. And chaning to blue dual weapons gives about 400dps more on most fights. Everything scales better with dual. Like procs, maelstorm building and so on. I wanna play 2h, but its just not working

[@celoot33]

Idk I run frost mage Winters Chill spec and keep up or do better than the 2 fire mages in my raid most fights. My frost damage set has more spell power than my fire damage set.

[@energyoneeighty2887]

Rep from Tabards for running dungeons would be nice. Was able to do incursions the first week and a half on my main. But once everyone got to 50 its impossible to do them with alts because we just get farmed by raids of 50s standing on steps, I couldn't do one round of quests without dying over and over then having a rez timer so I just don't do them at all now. Having guards on the steps and a level cap to get into the lower level incursions would be a step in the right direction I'd think. Haven't touched incursions since week 2 of phase 3.

[@riondrius]

I think MOP remix is very telling, Cata will be the end of classic re release journey at the end players will be offered to transfer to retail. They will wrap up SOD around same time. And announce / release official Classic +

[@Dronesh_Tythun]

I doubt that cause the MoP remix is still with retail talents and not MoP talents.

[@bspus]

ST should have been a 15-man. But I can't blame the devs when most people were OK hearing it would be 20-man when announced. For the end game raids, I just can't imagine there not being 20-man raids at all, though 40 might be pushing it. There should be smaller raids as well though

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

the reason 20 man raids "killed" a bunch of guilds is because blizzard did the omegabrain move of not introducing 20 man sized raids until phase 3. so everyone got together and formed their little cliques for 2 phases, and now that they have to merge with other raid rosters nobody wants to budge because like yeah i'm not giving up my status as raid leader/loot master/guild master/officer, you go ahead and give that up and join us... no you join us... no you (get the idea?). if 20 man raids had been introduced from phase 1, this would never have been a problem because the initial cliques being formed would have naturally been accommodating 20 man sized raid rosters. i warned repeatedly that this exact thing would happen, and i was just shut down with downvotes every time i dared mention it.

[@jamato7129]

Phase 1 of sod was fun when it felt more like vanilla wow with twist. That was about it tho

[@spiroasimov8673]

yup the more fingerprints current year devs put in SoD in continues its journey to retail minus with a thin coat of classic paint.

[@Skullrayge]

Honestly, if they made rep account wide, that’d be huge. It’s only gonna be around for like another year. And most of us have already done classic. When they drop the full server with no expiration date, full grinds? Sure.

[@tyhyhh]

Rep needed to be account wide

[@-Maiki]

Yes, I agree. No exp boosts and rep boosts but account wide shared rep so you still feel the same sense of achievement on your character when you have done the huge WSG exalted grind done. Now they made it so easy for everyone that me and others that farmed it the "old way" feel like we wasted our time because now you can do it 100x faster. it's important that you stand out when you invest alot of time in a character in an MMORPG. They are taking that feeling away by making shit easier.

[@tonysopranope4268]

tune in for SoD news, receive pitches for games I’ll never play

[@sasquatchnunu506]

Pvp damage reduction should reduce the chances of getting one shot. No need to nerf any abilities..

[@verpqrf]

my 20m SoD raid guild is likely quitting this week, many of us have been together since classic launch a few years ago, its bit of a bummer. i was really hopeful for something special out of SoD, and i think in P1 we did have that despite the issues there were, it was bearable, but at this point its just not and my faith is gone. the messy content releases and their management coupled with min/max culture establishing such a strong influence in the community has just destroyed the thought of staying for me personally. 2004-2009 WoW was an amazing experience, but the world has changed, and unfortunately there's just no recreating it.

[@user-mt1pg2hd7p]

There has been two abilities that I think would be awesome to have in the game. I’ve been wanting this for years now. One: Rogue should get an ability that allows them to run across water. When they activate their sprint ability, it should allow them to run across any body of water for the duration of the sprint. Two: Hunters should get an ability that allows them to mount and ride their pet. I think those would be amazing new abilities.

[@kerokupo]

the people who left wont come back for p4 imo. a guild ending is an emotional experience, and to restart and find a new guild just seems like too much effort. nice corepunk shoutout, it could be a good holdover until another big mmo comes out

[@NordicPlantLover]

Don’t forget 20man raids kinda eliminated the problem with specific classes couldnt get a spot in the raid. It feels good that the raid is easier to fill with all the classes for buffs.

[@zierwonraynz8869]

Solutions not Complaints; >Raids now SCALE WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIDERS IN THE RAID. Minimum of 10 players; you will now be able to bring any number of players 10-40 to any raid. Loot and the bosses health will scale for each person you bring. >Incursions are TURNED OFF; NO EXPERIENCE, NO GOLD, NO LEVEL 60 GEAR. If you want to do Incursions there is literally nothing their except rep, and a lvl 50 set. >Dungeons will now have 3 selectable difficulties; Normal, Heroic, Heroic+. With each new phase after phase 4, a new dungeon difficulty will be added(Heroic Alpha, Beta, Gamma). >Reputation will now be ACCOUNT-WIDE, AND ACHIEVEMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDED. Achievements will be ACCOUNT-WIDE progression that will award new mounts, and more titles. >[GOLD SINK] Transmogrification has been added, BUT it is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. With certain pieces of gear being OVER 100g to transmog, it will allow players with too much gold to show the community how rich they are. At the same time, building something for players with less money to shoot towards. #DesignerCloths >COMBAT LOGS for Season of Discovery HAVE BEEN DISABLED. You are no longer permitted to under Blizzard ToS to combat log inside the Season of Discovery server. Just like GDKP's, combat logs are BANNED! >PHASE 5 REBALANCE OF RUNES. Phase 4 will release the last set of runes for now... Phase 5 will rebalance all the runes in the entire game, and fix the under-performing runes that need love. >Guild Banks, NEW PVP EVENTS WITH EACH NEW PHASE, New Dungeons that accompany raids released WITH EACH NEW PHASE. New Dungeon Difficulty's/Raid Difficulty's as we get closer to the END OF SOD, New cool looking armor for Transmog. Their is so much that the Blizzard team needs to focus on to make sure their main player base doesn't just up and leave again. If the Dev team keeps their sights set on Major changes, and class balancing then SoD will be the best version of WoW to play.

[@twolgast]

The 20-man raids are the first real raids. The problem was that we played the lousy 10-man raids for so long that 10 groups made their own guild instead of joining a proper raiding guild. My guild planned for 40-mans all along and, to be fair, is struggling right now to get two 20-man raids going. I myself thought that these stopping points would be good for the game, but it's actually really crappy. It should have been level 60 immediately and then maybe lock out raids for a month instead, giving us ample time to level up and to grind out dungeons. And the hardcore people/streamers would have time to level several characters and deck them out.

[@zoons6323]

I think making wild offerings a currency would be a great idea. You complete dungeons to get 1 and are able to purchase anything from runes to consumes for raid with them. It would get people back in dungeons and not having to worry so much about gold.

[@BestOpinionHaver]

The problem wasnt 20man in of itself. The problem was the difficulty. You simply CANNOT "throw together" a quick pug for ST and do a quick clear like you could with ZG in classic. With ST being as difficult as it is you get the following problem: 1. Raid hosts will only bring parses with proven gear, skill, and high parse numbers. 2. Pumper players will be very selective because noone wants to join a raid that might not clear, essentially wasting your ID for the week. 3. This creates as negativity-loop as majority of players arent parsers and will thus be barred entry to the raid. 4. The majority of players starts to leave the game because of the above

[@HelicopterHammy]

Dude am I living in the freaking twilight zone??? You saying all SoD needs is some minor tweaking to specific spells like lava burst is the funniest thing I've heard this month! SHAMAN ARE BROKEN. Like absolutely overclocked to an irresponsible extent. Truly I don't know where to start. They're extremely tanky, the dps specs can full heal themselves basically instantly, the passive utility/mitigation through totems is out of freaking control, and on top of that they're absolutely ripping shit. Like the damage needs to be cut in half. Each aspect on their own isn't crazy, but when they're all put together it's absurd man. If you get into an AB with 5 shaman it's over. There's not even any sense in playing. For the love of god nerf shaman.

[@dennismontalto7868]

Malestorm should not give instant heals. Without extreme critluck and bubble thers nothing i can do as ret to win. Specially orcs that resist hoj and nades xD

[@carelesscribo3072]

I agree fk shamans to much utility for the damage they put out.

[@dennismontalto7868]

Thx 4 the honesty HelicopterHammy

[@mikkelandersen6168]

Ancestral Guidance is mad for enhance pvp. fyi. no one uses it. Im surprised its left untouched. Hits for 1500+ dmg. Crits for 2.5k.

[@trinitycarroll256]

Here’s the solution to 29 man raids: make it possible for locked out players to bypass the lockout by forming a raid with half of the players who didn’t complete the raid! Another words, if your locked out add 10 players who never completed the raid and you instantly have access to raid again. This will stop all the gate keeping and now make player who didn’t complete the raid sought after instead of rejected! Now they can keep it difficult and don’t have to nerf it.

[@theperfectbeing]

The biggest issue with SoD in it's entirety is that it is a free cash cow to for blizzard to keep the brand going. They ARE NOT going to pay programmers to create anything new for this game, people wanted Classic+ but instead what we got was classic with a few new quests and stolen abilities from other versions of the game. Take a look at each class and see if there are any new abilities that have new unique visual effects; all new abilities are mostly passives, modified versions of old abilities and things taken from retail. Blizzard will shut down the seasonal servers entirely, long before they ever make a new raid or even a new dungeon. Turtle WoW is private server run by a small team and even they managed to create multiple new dungeons, raids, pvp maps, new transport routes and numerous other new content.

[@spiroasimov8673]

agree...i thought SoD would be just taking class specs and improving them tweeking them add loot to dungeons with correct stats...some new world bosses maybe a dungeon or 2 bu tnope...didnt kno SoD would be if retail and wotk had a kid.

[@DarkKniteZ]

Runes don’t take forever to get. Yesterday I went from 40-50 in a couple hours. It’s not as bad as you think. The 100% buff is amazing. This is coming from a guy whole absolutely hates leveling

[@Uther1]

Try playing a paladin :)

[@mantequillas1278]

I've jumped guilds 3 times in the last 3 lockouts. It feels like more and more guilds are having a hard time filling up 20-man raids. There aren't many guilds that are trying to merge as guilds settled on their 10-man raid group and have been fighting for the same recruits. Guild leaders don't like the idea of someone else being in charge. Also, everything is expensive, rep grinds not being account wide, make it really hard to play an alt which would help fill out raid spots. Last, my guess for phase 4 is june 13th. Xp buffs have been a great measure of the halfway point. April 4th, to June 13th would be 10 weeks.

[@BriGuy77711]

I think a lot of people appreciated having a smaller raid size simply for personal social preference. I personally find it easier to make friends with people I don't know well if it's in a smaller group of people, in a setting that is not super stressful. BFD was great for that, Gnomer was a little less so because of the raid length and the difficulty increase. Now we've doubled the people and increased the difficulty again, meaning more people trying to talk over each other on comms about raid coordination instead of bants, more chance of having people care too much about quick clears instead of having fun, because now any time you waste is also wasting 19 other people's time. I would appreciate having the option to go back to 10 man raiding. Redesign some of the raid fights where it's needed, but give us that option to play the game the way we used to.

[@tylerlackey2864]

The point isnt to 'make friends' for 1 hour a week. The raids are just a shared experience for conversation starters or the 'hey I know you' for while doing other activities within the game (or discord / social platforms) when you *actually* create friendships. The way people talk about these raid sizes is as if WoW has never had 20man raids much less 40. SoD isnt 'breaking ground' by making a 20man raid lmao

[@luuf_tv]

- update and add gear to all dungeons at end game - add more pvp rewards from pvp - make 10/20/40 man raids - turn the pvp nerfs on in pvp - create a couple more dungeons those are starters to me If all the servers start struggling merge them into one server

[@Ace0hSpades]

What do you mean last phase? I thought we had multiple lvl 60 phases?

[@idkidgaf]

We do

[@akhsdenlew1861]

20man raids is literally the big reason that SOD suffers. 10man raids were amazing.... BFD and gnome raiding was active 24/7. Now LFG raiding in chat for ST is active only for 3-4 hours peak time... if you want to raid , you gotta raid peak time... otherwise you just quit the game.. lol Organising a 20man is also a big chore... I knew from the start that 20man raiding will fuck sod UP.

[@Yams42279]

the moment they announced 7 days lockouts with 20 man raids i instantly knew it was going to make a massive drop in the playerbase. P1 of sod was the most hype wow has been since 2019 but they ruined it by listening to reddit youtube and forums, the places where only the hardcore players are and none of the real core playerbase who actually keep the game alive

[@Laserred01]

I was all for 20 man raids! Although we did have to combine 2 guilds to make one. Not a big deal. Hasn't been a problem getting 19-20 solid players. 10 man "raids" seem more like just a large party to me and not like a raid. Of course, I've been playing wow since original vanilla and back then we always had 40+ players that never missed a raid.

[@105Strike105]

That's the problem. The casuals need to go because the are the ones that never shows up and compaining the hardest and the game is revolving around them and we get a crap game because of that.

[@tronwow]

SoD thoughts: It would be really cool if they just created an item that is BoA and granted xp up to the bottom of the current level bracket. Something you can send to a fresh alt, click it and start participating in the current phase content. Catch up mechanic, plain and simple. Imagine having to go play through seasons 1-3 of Diablo 4, before you can get to Season 4 content. It's not exactly apples to apples, but it gets the point across. Incursions are a perfect example, how many people said "no thank you fast xp, I want to my leveling journey to be longer" I'd bet that the majority of SoD enjoyers want nothing to do with raids above 10man. No 20, absolutely not 40. It sounds fun on paper, but it just ends up requiring a ton of work outside of the game, managing rosters and schedules. Playing "fill the roster" on discord instead of playing or even just being logged into the game you pay a sub for, can quickly turn into "i'll go check something else out." It's a solid business strategy for turning promoters into detractors.

[@tokdavid]

Do you have a link to your WA?

[@ck1860]

It's kinda simple tbh I'll sum it up shortly for people reading: - Make it easier to aquire (old) runes. - Imo i like 20 man raids bc I've got a big guild with 6 raid groups. BUT even we had some struggles filling them all up perfectly. I can't imagine how it is for smaller guilds and surely believe this killed a LOT of guilds. - Shared Reputation across different characters. Nobody likes spamming timbermaw rep on 3 different characters. - Balance and tweak all runes to be of similar strength of use. Personally I also only unlocked the runes which are strongest (BiS) for my class. On my main I've unlocked all but on my alt shadowpriest i'm only 17/24 for example. - BiS gear for your character which isn't linked to raiding ? maybe for people who love PvP with stats better suited for PvP ? - A crazy new PvP event would be nice. Blood moon p2 was nice. P3 felt like a in-between phase and no disrespect but feels like it's neglected a bit. Emerald wardens is nice to gear twinks i guess?

[@cauthorm3]

A lot of guilds, mine included, were created without a plan to expand to 40 man raids, which is the core of classic raiding in a vanilla setting. Many guilds were doomed to fail and we are watching the inevitable that will continue at level 60 when 40 man raids come in.

[@ffreshtadeff]

The incursion set is extremely good to have when you ding 50. It’s the best gear to get to go straight into ST

[@FALCORTON]

The incursions had a massive disconnect for me and my character. It made me appreciate my progress so little, It made everything seems like a waste of time.

[@bunsglazing7431]

I understand that people want to play alts. However, I don't > I don't want to have my main toon pre-raid experience nullified due to stupid catch up mechanics like incursions, wild offerings and an XP buff. I still want to experience the dungeons and leveling experience partly so I've still got something to do for 8 weeks. It's supposed to be classic + not classic -

[@russellbazigos5871]

Personally, I enjoy 20-40 man raids way more than 10 man raids. If anything it helps with class representation in raids, in 10 man raids you will always only take what is best.

[@ajudmeister]

Would love to see 40 man raids in super easy mode (zug zug pugs / maybe even with automatic raid finder) and 10 man in heroic mode (guild runs). You would serve both, the casuals who just want to experience the raids, the bosses and be part of a big group for an epic adventure without studying mechanics beforehand, and the hard core players in 10 man for the challenge, the parsing and the chance of much higher (maybe even better) loot drops.

[@Meatblasting]

I’ve been holding out for a Glacial Spike rune for Mages, maybe it would require ice lance or it could be worked in with it or something

[@orlymike]

Having another way to get runes faster is not what we need. Yeah , it sucks having to do a lot of the quests and traveling again, but if people are complaining on things to do. That gives them something to do. A lot of people who complain about not having anything to do should take a break or consider trying other content they don't usually do in game. Gold farm, professions, pvp, pve, rep grinds, p4 prep, ect. These suggestions just not be what you want to do, but there are things to do and you may need to step away from you comfort zone. I know Blizzard wants feedback, but at this rate if Classic + ever does get released, I hate to see it get ruined by all the cry babies out there.

[@energyoneeighty2887]

Haha true, people complain about not having things to do but yet complain of having to do things.

[@hoodymcmayhem275]

A man with logic. I appreciate this comment so much. All the cry babies are gonna ruin the ONE chance we have at classic+. Cheers man im with you. Hopefully this vocal minority shuts the ff up. lol peace and love

[@daisyou812]

Pretty sure that sod is gonna be a funnel to get people to play retail. I agree with u tho some people need to find other things to get into sometimes just to take a break we all love the grind but a break is good sometimes

[@freequenciesbynell7647]

I’d like to see all these runes turned into talent trees. Adding another spec to every class would be dope! Edit: (as a mage main) I think all mages should have their own elemental pet!

[@Ashandvids]

I think flexible raids like retail has would be best. However, they did state its not possible.

[@shjerven]

When you said Warlock runes. Felguard rune is only good if you go full demonology. Even with that tanks don’t have felguard out. If you sacrifice him it’s a better upside. As destruction/affliction it’s better to run the fire aura. Or unstable affliction. Currently best talents are 17/3/21 which is cool but it’s just casting shadowbolts for damage. Even with the backdraft rune if you want full shadow. It’s only great to get shadowbolts casts faster. Destruction fully currently isn’t performing well. Next phase warlocks will be in fact going into affliction for the shadow damage then the rest the points to get ruin. I would enjoy a nice felguard bonus to fire damage too. If you sacrifice them. Or just improve the felguard

[@larks_9461]

Thanks for covering more content! I stopped watching you in phase 2 when I quit SoD I liked your content but it didn’t relate to my gameplay which is cata and retail now with the new xpac coming back. Great video man keep up the good work! What realm you playing on cata?

[@jmcke802]

Paladins' exorcism rune is a perfect example of terrible design. 3 other runes are required to make a basic attack functional and removes the ability to run anything else. SoD is great on paper with horrible execution.

[@LukeA471]

Still waiting for a single one of those surveys

[@DoctorFlux]

for me its the PVP balancing why im quitting : ally quitting becuase shamans is overpowered and Mages being 100% unplayable in PVP and this dmg reduction making them even worse becuase our damage per mana ratio is so bad compare to everybody else and before this aura it was already bad and all has huge burst instant cast stuff or dots while we mages need to stand still for 2.5 sec. for a cast sure we have CCs but alot of our CCs feel pointless by the time we casted and hit our CC we are already under 20% life and need to use the time to heal up again and they can effortless kill us after i agree with we need this dmg reduction but there need to be more balancing than now all player take less dmg from all players mainly with the mana usage on mages

[@chemmandan9231]

The pvp aura felt like it hurt melee the most. Stealth groups in stv just did not work anymore

[@XzTRIPPEDZx]

in regards to 20 man raid assembling i do have a good idea that My guild uses ccurrently. We are part of a multi guild discord where anyone from any of the guilds can post in the general/ LF raid tabs and look for people from their own guild or even find new randoms they hve never played with before from otherguilds to assemble a full 20 man raid for ST or even 10 man raid groups for BFD/Gnomer. Also along with that w can post if anybody is questing higher level areas for anyone from the 6-8 guilds in the discord to join/help out

[@Frightnoodle]

20 man raids didn't necessarily 'kill' my guild, instead we and about five or so other guilds formed together under one. We all keep our former guild names as sub-guilds within this one, but collectively we are one big family now. I realize not everyone can do this but... That's how we approached it, we mix in players from other sub-guilds when we can't fill spots.

[@Uther1]

5 guilds and still need to pug ppl

[@Frightnoodle]

@@Uther1 All within the guild!

[@davidp2391]

The best thing they can do to make world of Warcraft in general. More casual friendly is get rid of logs and damage meters

[@105Strike105]

That would increase 20% of players and would lose 50% of players. Meaning its a net negative to the game. Casual players only play 1 or 2 hours a week where as the more dedicated players play 10 to 20 hours. So if you lose them then you wont even have anyone left in the game.

[@royster4711]

I wish they’d just implement the dmg reduction already… it felt so good… not it’s back to shaman 1 shotting everyone, druids insta casting killing everyone, shadow priests putting a dot on someone killing them, hunters getting big crits 1 shotting…. It’s unplayable PvP unless you like enduring that kind of abuse cause of daddy issues or something… there’s nothing to do in phase 3 rn

[@owenherndon64]

They are also splitting the community 4 ways between SoD, Cata, Panda, and Retail. I do agree the 10 man raid is a nice sweetspot. Even being able to fill 20 mans with my guild it brought two 10 man raid teams together. 20 people in a chat channel also ive noticed a few of my friends muting their mics for the 20 man raid vs when it was just 10 of us hanging out. Plus more ways of classic "drama" to pop up of how loot is handed out/someone not carrying their weight really is annoying with 20 man. And the once a week reset you lose people to some just raid logging or is a nightmare trying to pug someone unsaved say later saturday night raid. And lastly with so many big amazing dungeons at the next phase lean heavily into making dungeons worth it as well as the best way to level/gear at 60.

[@jamesegan4218]

I hate the idea of random drop runes or currency obtained runes. The thing that makes them special is the unique quests and ways to obtain them that require exploration of different areas of wow. If anything they need to add more of that.

[@chadstrickland6877]

I think it's kinda funny that we are complaining about the 20 mans, but aside from MC (which they confirmed to be 20 man) it sounds like they are wanting to go into 40 man for future raids. Me personally am in the same boat as everyone else. I prefer 10 man content, but I just don't see them giving up on 40 mans.

[@AmongRevenants]

What do we know about the Lava Lash situation? They lock us last Friday with free xfers butchering a very fun and friendly realm.... ...then unlock Lava Lash again after the weekend. While xfers are still free to CS and WG. Why would the devs fuck with us like that?

[@AmongRevenants]

allowing level 1 toons to transfer from LL to either CS and WG for free... will turn the Lash into a bot farm realm. We're unlocked. Shut the damn free xfer off please Blizz ffs

[@Sin9ular1ty]

You think gate keeping and log checking is bad now, think how bad it will be with a 10 man MC/BWL/AQ/NAXX. These raids will get progressively harder and if your class is underperforming, you're not getting an invite. There will be 0 reason to invite a rogue and I'm sure other classes/specs will have issues.

[@paulclarkson2583]

In an ideal world people would just choose a Class, have a good time, play what they think is fun... Unfortunately ever person on the game right now bar a small handful literally just go to google and /copy paste insert BIS OP 1 Shot ST build here, and they run that with little to no self discovery or attempt to try something else the class offers. I'm loving SoD I'm super excited for whats going to come along with whats out now. Wow is such an old game now, and it strains a lot of people to try and 'keep up' with a lot of things people are managing to achieve.

[@Jezedh]

This may just be me, but I liked the Nightmare Incursions as filler for the drought of content at near-end-game. We need something to cover the costs of training, ammo, and upgrades.

[@smurfberrieseso1158]

I always look forward to your videos thank you for keeping up with everything for us . I really feel like lvl 60 is going to be the funnest phase in SOD but we will see .

[@zacharyklewin3603]

I'm definitely all for account wide rep in sod. It always felt archaic even since the start of 2019 classic that rep wasn't account wide. Stuff like gold sinks being separate on different characters is fine, because you can trade gold to alts

[@SirMouse003]

Maybe I'm the weird one - but I liked incursions, and I'm loving 20man as does most of my guild. Looking forward to 40mans as well. Also with the Ashenvale pvp event I did it almost every week, I've barely touched STV aside from the first few times for the "new factor" early on, got old quickly imo. I'll also be trying the MoP remix - just wish I could have joined it with an alt char thats low level instead of having to make a new :P

[@Dotz-mf1et]

I liked incursions... The fast leveling, raw gold & the armor set you got when you were done were all nice for my alts. If only runes came with the rep some how.

[@ProgressionWoW]

The way to fix this issue with 20 man raids is to introduce FLEX raiding. This will solve so many problems!

[@zachbecklake2303]

If they did a 10 man normal for the raids. And like a 20 man heroic where there is better loot and a bit harder for the people who are more serious would be a good balance

[@Gary.S550]

Classic Rot brains, destroying SoD this is a seasonal server and people should be having fun and trying new things instead of trying to min-max everything and gate keeping. Looking forward for MoP Remix tho.

[@Skullrayge]

Idk man, it’s retail ppl asking for “ilvl” and logs. Just sayin

[@Petemossfunguy]

@@Skullrayge it’s also classic Andy’s . I’m in a parse guild and we are chill but my guild does want to be the best possible and get server first clears and shit. It’s kinda like; why? One of my guild members did a several paragraph write up analysis of how to kill st bosses even faster. It’s like dude we are already crushing in less than 30’seconds?

[@papabzzt9353]

@@Petemossfunguy You sound surprised but you're in a parsing guild, lol..... sad.

[@Ralangorf]

Min max will be there in mop remix. The irony of the entire wow community is hilarious to me. You guys will forever be upset over the completely wrong thing. It's the development thats the issue not the community. Your a product of what they build not the other way around.

[@Skullrayge]

@@Petemossfunguy that’s the only way to get challenge out of the game without making the raids balls hard for the 10 guilds that’ll actually clear it. Tbh if you don’t like it, why are you still in the guild? The shit’s run tight. That’s why. At the very least, you’re not feeling like other people are wasting your time. It might take you 10 hours to clear the raid in 30minutes, but you’re still there because you can’t stand mfs showing up to raid 30 minutes late every week to wipe for 2 hours.

[@darkdelusion]

Even with the buff to XP this week the 25 - 50 is a slog, There is also a tank shortage right now 25 - 40 and having tank runes locked behind a quest line or Waylaid Supply faction sucks because because even if say rogues are not optimal tank they could fill in in a pinch

[@draconus03]

i also really wish that they would improve blessing of sanctuary rune so its actually worthwhile to go full prot or mostly full prot as a pally

[@bigbaxta1223]

Bring back GDKPs. the playerbase feels like it died after they went away and incentive to play alts bassically doesnt exist

[@michaelmohler5409]

Lol thats only a coincidence. Far less of you actually liked that

[@gavinhamblin3070]

Pre raid bis in heroic 5 mans around Azeroth would be the move. Also, 10 man raids with less trash like BFD. That was fun and didn’t feel daunting. Account wide rep and agree with making runes more accessible once you’ve gotten them on your main.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

also bgs need a reason to exist...

[@walterruiz2130]

When you interviewed Agrand, I remember him saying that they had to be careful with changes, so they didn't do retail minus instead of classic +, and here we are. Sadly, SoD has turned into a Dollar Tree version Retail.

[@Genero222]

Tbh was about to move onto a different video because I’m bored of SOD but then, for the first time ever, the ad kept me here. V rising is amazing, everyone should play it.

[@shadowsong6]

Honestly 20 man raiding is fine. My guild is not big by any stretch of the imagination and we were running 2 10 man teams for p1 and p2. 20 man just means we have 1 raid team instead of 2.

[@mystrreos]

Mana as a limiting resource but only for a few classes. Mage has it really bad. The kit is fun to play when we get to play it, but often times mage has to hold mana back and even if they go all out they are behind other classes, particularly in AoE and PvP

[@PacketMix_]

If we can get SOD to return to a more casual friendly set up with the likes of 10man raids, quick alt leveling, easier rep/rune completion then I think this season would be saved. Not a great experience having to redo the grind on a seasonal server. If we end up getting 20/40man raids then the season will be over. Only the very dedicated will raid and again is the opposite of the casual themes SOD offered. One raid lock out per week also doesn't help. Opinion: ideally we get 10man raids or single boss raids on a two times per week reset. I don't care if more loot drops from a boss on a one raid lock out. This jsut means I have to wait another week to use the gear. Few mobs in raids would be good too...

[@quixmith]

I know that I'm just a filthy casual, but the major reason I stopped playing... All the sweaty try-hards have gotten their gear, and that made up most of the population. With that in mind, they have all started to raid log. Most of the content that requires groups are often not as easy to get together, due to most players have started doing solo stuff... because the population is down daily. It's a weird catch 22 unfortunately, but that's just my personal experience, it's not the same for everyone obviously.

[@chozzle7113]

Group buffs for Raids is also pretty dumb especially when druids are the only class on alliance that can give weaker version of windfury

[@brianclingner6445]

Would it be possible to do lockouts based on each boss? Example, Im in a pug group and we kill the first 2 bosses and then the group breaks up....could I then join another group later in the week but just not be able to loot the first 2 bosses? That way I as a player could at least see some progression. Idk, would love to hear some thoughts on something like this.

[@jamespadgett8660]

This is how it is in retail. I see no reason why it can't be the same in SOD. We failed at Eranikus this morning (yes really). Let me go again with another group.

[@eston1234]

no ty, this sounds awful

[@tyhyhh]

So a big part too imo is the nicer weather half the us just got the ability to go outside also class balance like 2h enhance still has not been addressed maybe it will next phase im hopeful but if 2h enh doesnt get a new hand rune and or a new melee ability im done with sod i hate having to use my malestrom n lava busrt while dw can use it on chain lighting and hit lava lash for way more damage than i can do im not saying 2h needs to be better than dw i just want it to play better

[@elhubro2386]

the only thing i wanted to do besides raiding one time a week is pvp, log on after work, play some bg s , now the q times for solo players are 30min +, mostly the average wait time tells you 15-20min, but i waited up to 50 min, this is unplayable.

[@lyon666]

I have never seen so many (but small) guilds in all of my 20yrs in wow. I think ytube raid guides causes alot of ppl to create guilds with a few friends cuz they think they have the info they need to clear the raid. Leading a guild takes alot more than that, its always been hard work and the smaller the guild is the harder that work is.

[@garrido_heron]

Some runes for warriors that work only with shield. Why not make a shield slot or 1h slot

[@Donaldburger]

Can’t make alts easier as everyone will re roll flavor of the month classes. Keeping it like this diversifies the player base