Heads up to be careful with the clump of mobs that will follow you near the end if you decide to end the pulling phase on the right side of the portal. Certain trees have a weird spot where, if mobs walk up on them, will get them stuck and eventually start evading before they reset back to their spawn point. Thank you for the guide. Loving it tons. I'm doing this (although slightly scuffed) on my paladin that has defense cap and about 250 spellpower, but no Figurine or Enigma trinkets. Sometimes I end up having to kite them in a line around the swamp a bit.
@nitishchauhan86553 жыл бұрын
1:37 "I'm going to put an image up on the screen to show you most effective way" Never puts up image. That's essentially every arlaeus video.
@Gabeleeen3 жыл бұрын
@@Levestire The second one was to always do the jump, and no burst phases if I understood it correctly
@jaredbaurr98413 жыл бұрын
@@Gabeleeen That way sucks as 15-20 mobs get low and then you just die as you cannot finish them. I would LOVE to see him show a 66 geared paladin do this. He said he has a video on it.
@mistymonk53073 жыл бұрын
@@jaredbaurr9841 I'm currently doing this at level 66, it's fairly simple.. Just have to make up a kiting path as they start to get low and branch off. It's really not that hard
@ggcookies99493 жыл бұрын
@@mistymonk5307 feel like sharing your pathing on a video? im not there yet but would like to be prepared
@mistymonk53073 жыл бұрын
@@ggcookies9949 I'd love to do that next time I get a chance to actually play the damn game, might be a bit
@HW-ow9zp3 жыл бұрын
"you don't need any gear for this" "So the gear that you need for this is.."
@samcooper27733 жыл бұрын
well your not going to go in naked are you he basically means you dont need full raid gear nothing crazy
@decimater753 жыл бұрын
I did this from level 66-70...buy a set of "of the champion" greens from the AH (so that you can avoid being dismounted during the pull, as your SP ratio on consecrate is pretty trash for the amount of SP you can get), and start doing it...he means that if you're kiting them around the portal, your gear doesn't matter because you're not getting hit. If you do it at low levels you will end up with some awkward situations where some come around the other side of the portal and you have to kite in a different way to get the mobs to stack up somewhat again. There are other videos about that though, just make sure you have mana pots, swiftness pots, and imo the greater arcane elixir and superior wizard oil are definitely worth investing in as well.
@sirnicholibraden863 жыл бұрын
Goddamn, Tard-Muffin.
@adamcroley88882 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love all the stuff you do bro. This type of stuff is why I even play. I have a mage and working on my paladin now. Did ZF thanks to your video and flew through level 44 to 55
@gravyholicbear3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Righteous Fury. It’s only 6% damage reduction, but it’s better than a sharp stick in the eye.
@brisbanetim3 жыл бұрын
I'd say most things are better than a sharp stick to the eye except perhaps a blunt stick to the eye
@Ecliptor.3 жыл бұрын
@@brisbanetim idk man, a blunt stick might just push your eye, but a sharp one will just puncture it
@zakkattack992 жыл бұрын
@jethro riz better than down the urethra
@Mysteryspy3 жыл бұрын
Slight critique, at 4:45 you say that figurine lasts for 2 mins, when in fact the CD is 2 mins and it lasts for 20. Secondly, BOY I have been wondering how to efficiently farm here, ty so much!
@billma83 жыл бұрын
On the left of the dark portal is a big rock. If you have too many mobs slow pathing on the left, loop around the back of that rock to avoid pathing through them.
@raze6673 жыл бұрын
unless I'm wrong... Crusade doesn't work on those mobs, as they are beasts and not humanoids, demons, undead or elementals.
@yoyo112153 жыл бұрын
Wasnt there supposed to be an image at 1:35?
@ColinHarding3 жыл бұрын
It's always a good day when you put out a new video.
@rizalplayerindonesia16893 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@nickhernandez20003 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the pathing!
@ClassicTophatGaming3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this is 100% not a 500g per hour farm
@De_Nome3 жыл бұрын
The idea behind this whole farm and the execution is amazing but the market will crash if we do this more than one or two hours per day. Also, you can use Divine Shield after Dabiri/Colossus to have another 12 seconds extra with max rank Consecration then you can use Blessing of Protection after one minute to have 10 seconds extra with max rank of Consecration and then you can finish it off with Dabiri/Colossus/Avenging Wrath practically making the killing phase to be so much easier and faster.
@d0k0night3 жыл бұрын
You mean the skinning market right? Well - that's why you better get on this as quickly as possible. And my guess is that the majority of paladins doing this will not pick up skinning, because that is far too large of an opportunity cost to give up enchanting and JC/engineering as their other two professions.
@De_Nome3 жыл бұрын
@@d0k0night The Netherweb market dropped from 10g each at 5g each after me doing this farm for a couple of hours ( i was able to get x120 Netherweb in four hours ). And my realm is the third most populated alliance realms from North America. But what Mister Arlaeus over here forgot to mention is that we get around 50g worth of vendor trash per hour after doing this farm so we can still get up to 300g per hour even if Netherweb drops at 5g each ( the leather sells at 50s each on my realm with me getting at least x10 stacks per hour and there seems to be a very high demand most likely because of leg enchants ). So this farm is actually still pretty good overall being able to make at least 200g+ per hour even if the market crashes. p.s. i was also able to get this design with +8 hit rating that sold for a lot of gold
@heyBurmecia3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever post the most efficient aggro route? I'm consistently only getting like 100
@wslucanm3 жыл бұрын
Our lord and savior Arlaeus with another pally guide. Thx for sharing dude, awesome strat for leveling, gonna try it as soon as I get 66
@gelm23753 жыл бұрын
PSA to anyone thinking of using the sporregar shield with this; don't. The RNG of it can force other mobs into lower hp much quicker than they will with an ordinary shield, messing up the pathing of a large portion of your pull.
@1986Boomboom3 жыл бұрын
True
@decimater753 жыл бұрын
Anyone else having issues with the tanking strategy? I seem to be getting absolutely slapped around when I try to...also watching his mana bar, spiritual attunement seems to be proccing off of his figurine, but mine does not do that. For reference, my defense is 22 lower, my avoidance is nearly identical to his, slightly less HP, I use blessing of sanctuary, and do everything else he does. Potential causes: No food buff/stamina elixir (doubt it) My shield is substantially worse than his...18 less block value, I guess that's possibly the reason...not quite sure how block value works, but I think that would all be reflected in the block % on character sheet. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Edit: confirmed it was a gear issue.
@garygarbutt30063 жыл бұрын
What was the gear issue?
@MethadonLTD3 жыл бұрын
@Arlaeus: What do you think about swapping Crusade for Vindication. Crusade is not helping vs the 'Beast' type in Black Morass, while Vindication adds a (minor) mitigation passive? Same question about swapping the 3/3 Precision vs 3/3 Righteous Fury? How do you think the 3% Spell Hit scales versus the 6% Damage Taken Reduction? Is it worth the trade off? Any thoughts? Thanks. PS: The Vindication question was asked since I only focus on BM Grinding and not on anything else. One could bring up it's usefull for Stratholme and any other AoE grinds one may go for.
@silentsvnstars3 жыл бұрын
PSA: even at 70 you will need a very good block rate in order to survie the pull with Dabiri + Figurine
@SUPERMAN23053 жыл бұрын
Prebis is doing great for me.
@ohhhh69613 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I´ve been doing this running trough the whole dungeon with occasionally using swiftness potion :D Your Killtime is defently insane
@deadlyhoneyduw3463 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so brokenly good!!! I'm lvl 63 and a half so far on whitemane horde and the zf tutorial you made helped me alot to get to this point after I boosted to lvl 40. Thanks alot!! Keep it coming!!!
@HardyMetalliX2 жыл бұрын
a lot*
@TheeFreakiishlyz3 жыл бұрын
I'm spamming dispell the moment I do concencration and the amount of poisons i get is insane... I'm getting 3 times what you got and I'm not even pulling 100 mobs.. Feel like this was stealth nerfed.
@roacherz3 жыл бұрын
Same and i'm very geared too.
@TheeFreakiishlyz3 жыл бұрын
@@roacherz I just resulted in doing it the normal way.
@Ddaniel_xoxo2 жыл бұрын
Everything in this game gets stealth nerfed
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
When doing this at 66 for leveling, the spec you show is gonna be different. How far into prot would you go? is getting blessing of sanctuary or holy shield worth it for survivability when mobs connect or should you focus more on getting vengeance 5/5 and maybe Divine Intellect for more mana? since you might be running blessing of wisdom for mp5 anyway. Thanks
@ohhhh69613 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this with the 5/5 vengance specc and full spell dmg gear at 66. I just walked trough the dungeon and dealt dmg with immunity+swiftness just 2 seconds before the immunity ended. Might be even more benefical at the dark portal - not even swiftness required due to the jump
@JamesPeacock3 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@Oxmosh2 жыл бұрын
@@ohhhh6961 Can one of you show me what build you are doing on your paladin at 66 to 70 for that? I am new to paladin but i have no idea what to do here for my talents
@Jabadabut3 жыл бұрын
Having troubles tanking I have dabiri's, figurine and 475 defence my block is 19% without the trinket popped but that poison seems to procc on me like crazy and i cant keep up with cleansing how is it that you're not getting hit with that poison as much?
@LanreHimring3 жыл бұрын
It's because the block rating and everything about avoidance, you can notice it when your dabiri's runs out of time (15 secs) and you still have the colossus (20 secs), the poison stacks faster, so if you're having problems, search for items who increase your block rate and watch out whenever the dabiris effect ends I know it's a late answer, but better late than never
@Jabadabut3 жыл бұрын
@@LanreHimring Much appreciate it!!
@andersditlevsen833 жыл бұрын
I am doing this on 66 paladin, you gotta learn how to kite around the mountain and try to make sure the mobs lose health evenly so that they all go to "slow mode" at the same time. I had some weird results though for exp, crocolisk exp numbers here from mobs dying at the same time: 366 460 1186 430 354 1007 360. So is it true that mobs have to constantly take dmg otherwise exp gets nerfed? And how big is the window of them not taking dmg?
@devondenham73093 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the timer is 30 seconds? But If I were you, I would try my best to throw down rank 1 consecrate on cool down and make sure all the mobs run through it. The timer is definitely a thing though, gotta make sure to damage them at least every 10-15 seconds or else you will get only the xp equal to the ratio of the mobs current health
@friend-nn2zk3 жыл бұрын
defense capped with decent block + skullflame shield can let you get a full clear after 2nd trinket pop
@peoso13 жыл бұрын
Just wondering about the image that is supposed to show the efficient way to walk through the dungeon to aggro the mobs mentioned at 1:49. Is it somewhere to be found ?
@AlexBosy3 жыл бұрын
I tried this strategy many times on my 66 lvl paladin and yet to do a successful run. The problem starts when I'm behind a portal and mobs split into 2 different stacks - 1 coming from the right (like normally) and 1 from the left. I can't outrun the left pack unless I have a bubble cd. If I don't have it - it's a wipe, my speed is not enough to go down the hill for the wider circle either. Swiftness potion helps but only for 1 circle and the next one it's on cd. Do you have a solution what to do when you are behind the portal and 2 packs coming at you from both sides? assuming im not tanky enough to take damage without bubble.
@jr26483 жыл бұрын
You're jumping down near the center, go directly to the corner to ensure the path is shorter in one direction
@Professor.Farnsworth3 жыл бұрын
@@jr2648 Eventually some will be so much slower that they will always split up, once you see them below 20% it's best to just jump down and run around in very oval circle in the area just northwest of the portal and gradually kill the mobs at this point they are slowed enough for you to continuously outrun them if you take long enough stretches of running in a straight line only gradually turning
@JK3K53 жыл бұрын
I also having the problem getting dazed when the mobs come from the left side.
@jesselin16653 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Tried this without dabri’s and I had to do the kiting only method because I just didn’t heal enough from the figurine. Gonna have to snag that. Also the crusade talent is nice but it doesn’t benefit this farm specifically because the mobs are beasts. Great video! Hoping to get some gains!
@abuur1233 жыл бұрын
Is this actually consistent at 66? Doesn't seem worth it until you have the level 70 gear making it just a gold farm.
@amandaspear61483 жыл бұрын
So you have a more efficient way to go 66-70 in @9 hours played? Super interested. Even at two runs an hour this is busted. PLUS you're gold positive. PLUS you have blade's edge, netherstorm, and SMV quests wide open which is another 2.5-3k gold... So, yeah.
@GerblerM3 жыл бұрын
It's consistent at 66, BUT you will take a little bit learning how to effectively kite the mobs, and deal with their HP bars unsyncing
@andrepinto72832 жыл бұрын
What epic did you get? @0:30 In tbc there are no epic items (boe gear) dropped from non-70 mobs lmao Also each run you get around 10g from vendoring stuff, so there's no way you do 300g p/hour
@scratchvippy26003 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this since you made the mage one. You and Tedj are like a farming encyclopidia. Perfectly timed :D
@trickdaemon3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever post that colored map showing the path? Would love to know how Ican speed up the boring mounted phase lol. Ty!
@andyhlfc19883 жыл бұрын
Just watching that initial kill phase, when you jump over the back of the portal and they head around to the right would you not be better putting consecration on the corner so they're being hit already as they run around.
@NaxesDaxzar3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was doing this morning and it hits them a lot more
@thomashays78183 жыл бұрын
When I put it on the stairs, it hits them for 3 ticks. When I put it on the corner it only ticks twice. My experience
@flavourwingleauge4863 жыл бұрын
Yoo,, my paladin is basicly good geared and similair to yours, but it seems I am getting like between 10/15 poisons sometimes while cleaning myself. Any reason for that?
@ballstank39043 жыл бұрын
Same as me....what i do instead of using the trinkets...my burst phases are with bop on or devine shield...then i go back to running around the portal
@theblackshawarma36053 жыл бұрын
OH my god man.... You're plain insane man. I've been trying this a few times with 68 prot to solo, obviously not at such a great spot^^ Opted to duo it with a frost mage and that's obviously mindnumbing easy :D Gotta try that as soon as possible.
@heidingsfelder5043 жыл бұрын
what was the xp like?
@arthurroberts57943 жыл бұрын
Would boxing a moonkin druid for hurricane for extra damage/skinner be worth it or would I risk throwing off the pull ? Or should I box a mage for blizzard?
@kid10720003 жыл бұрын
which addon shows the avoidance stats? thanks
@201redlight2 жыл бұрын
Hello , What the addon name which shows that you have missing buffs on the pally please ? ( like blessings , Holy shield, righteous fury) thanks
@blindbylight3 жыл бұрын
Petrified lichen guard and a nice shield spike make this alot quicker
@R1D1CK693 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt make any significant impact, one more consecration outdps anything you can put as "bonus" to those pulls (lichen, spikes, dynamites etc)
@elvindashti53693 жыл бұрын
Hello sir. What addon do you use to see what loot is being looted in the middle of the screen?
@stanislavmegued554 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what about Truesilver Breastplate? Is the 3% on hit heal worth it?
@Hypoground3 жыл бұрын
Hi Arlaeus, is this still viable for earning money during P2 and beyond?
@Skydriver_hc2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Which addons do you use?
@sirskown10403 жыл бұрын
Colosuss is 20 secs not 2 mins thats the CD xD
@oswaldmensin52833 жыл бұрын
I always come back to my pally in TBC. I feel they are one of the best classes in TBC. I love mage too because i was a long time mage fan, first wow char was a mage in vanilla, but i really like Paladins too. Boring a bit leveling but once you get them built they get fun
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
100%!
@thomashays78183 жыл бұрын
I've been able to do this at 68, I have to add a wide circle when the mobs get low and block your circuit. Go straight back and circle to the right and back up the stairs. I cons like 20 yards behind the portal to keep the XP tag. Impossible otherwise from my experience. Approx 8%xp per run
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
I second this. This is the play for anyone doing this to level. Figured this out and it seemed to be the only way to do it successfully. Have had a few successful runs now at 66
@slats21183 жыл бұрын
im struggling with this but don't get how you mean to run around exactly
@SpikedPinapple3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any video you watched for that? I'm able to do everything fine but once they get a little too low being 66 I can't exactly burst them from 25% to dead or close to. this sounds like what I need
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
@@SpikedPinapple whats your spellpower? I have about 200 with greens from AH, wizard oil, and elixir. Can definetely do enough damage in a burst phase to bring the rest of the pack to a low enough health where they become very easy to kite. When some start pathing the wrong way, I will pop damage trinket, consecrate, bubble when they ars close to me, dynamite and consecrate again. They will be ticking the whole time. With about 2 seconds left on bubble I start to kite away from portal and do the wide circle around to the front again. They should be slow enough after that 2nd burst phase.
@thomashays78183 жыл бұрын
@@SpikedPinapple no video, I just tried to run away one time, kinda dumb luck. Once you reset them, you'll be able to do one more cons/jump down before you have to do the big loop again. And once they are below 10%, depending on how long the train is, I don't even go up the portal, I just run around it in circles putting cons on the corners
@jaredbaurr98413 жыл бұрын
What are the minimum block stats you need for your kill phase? I have some decent gear, not as good as yours, but the moment I stop and pop the trinkets, I get destroyed. 490 defense 14% block. I get annihilated when I stop and pop figurine then Dabiri's. I am tucked tight in that corner so they are not behind me. They just SHRED me.
@LanreHimring3 жыл бұрын
The most important thing (beside the minimum defense to avoid getting crit, dunno if its around 465) is the block rate, so stack it up, other avoidance stats are good too, but the most important thing is to only tank them with the dabiris effect (15 secs) and the colossus, once the dabiri's stops working, you should keep running, if you tank the entire 20 secs you'll die or at least lose a lot of health
@Golemagg3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro! amazing video strat, can u please make an one where u can explain your setup? i mean all addons kill tracker / gold per hour / defensive stats including avoidance etc. thanks bro, keep crushing !!
@Netherlag13 жыл бұрын
he already has a video about those addons. And for the defenses, it is there in the end of this video.
@vlasihinn3 жыл бұрын
What addon shows you the loot in the middle of a screen?
@R1D1CK693 жыл бұрын
yes pls... im waiting so long for someone to asnwer this!
@samerg49213 жыл бұрын
@@R1D1CK69 same
@thoriv4203 жыл бұрын
Can you show it with a 66 paladin? seemd pretty hard because you wont have the defense and you dont have the gear to burst. could imagine that kiting is gonna be a big problem once some mobsds get low and others dont
@mistymonk53073 жыл бұрын
It isn't super hard, you just have to kite around the mountain a bit, with 3/3 Pursuit of Justice you are slightly faster than them
@tylerwest82863 жыл бұрын
I just tried this. I'm fully raid geared with 490 def, 511 SP, 13.1k life and 22% block chance yet I keep getting obliterated. The mobs keep catching up too me when kiting them around (not they split off and go both directions, they catch up to me and kill me), why?
@GerblerM3 жыл бұрын
If you're not spec'd into pursuit of justice then your movement needs to be immaculate
@tylerwest82863 жыл бұрын
@@GerblerM 1/3, thx maybe that will make the difference.
@TheMaxrofl3 жыл бұрын
You suggested crusade for the damage increase however aren't all the mobs in the instance that your killing beasts? so the crusade would not work on them?
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Correct! Got so used to it affecting everything else haha. So only 32% increase with everything!
@LazyFatBear3 жыл бұрын
should you do this on heroic? or does it matter
@kentphillips77143 жыл бұрын
You said you were going to put up an image showing the two paths to take to aggro the mobs but I didn't ever see it. Did you forget it or did I miss it?
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Apparently the saved version I exported didn’t save it. The image is at 4:06 in my mage 1 pull video! Sorry!
@MatthiasGold3 жыл бұрын
looks like i am going to skill up skinning
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Doing it now as well on my paladin haha. Doesn't take too long! Prob about 2-2.5 hours to get to 300 and then 2 hours till 335
@MatthiasGold3 жыл бұрын
@@arlaeus9491 i could never be bothered to learn a 2nd profession on the twink. now it is time. thanks for the videos. keep them coming plz.
@vanlifeeh5853 жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with ench/ engi.
@dianamarquez56463 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks so much for the video I have some questions, if I don't have skinnig, this pull can give rawgold anyway? And Can I use a mage? Please, I'll be so gratefull if you answer me
@fizzlebank3 жыл бұрын
You'd have your answer if you actually listened and watched the video. He talks about raw gold and mage potential
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Yup! I have a mage 1 pull as well. And it depends on your server but take netherweb spider silk * 10 per run (so *4/hr) + 25/run (100/hr)
@paulziegler13773 жыл бұрын
@Arlaeus any good cenarion circle rep gain resources?
@Halking20023 жыл бұрын
I just completed this a few days ago in just 2 days of dedicated grinding on it. The most painful part for me was the Dukes. I'm on Sulfuras which is a pretty poplar server and there was nearly zero cultist sets on the AH, so I farmed them all. I didnt get the last duke to spawn that I needed until the 16th duke. I think I was just crazy unlucky. But it did help I guess as I got naturally exalted with CC just by the amount of pages I collected an NPCs i killed to get the sets.
@Halking20023 жыл бұрын
But as far as just the rep, by far the 10 encrypted twilight page turn ins are going to be the best. They give +500 rep per turnin, the pages are easy to farm. The other repeatable quests only give +150 rep per turn in.
@JamesPeacock3 жыл бұрын
Any advice for why some get lower HP than others? once they split up at the end its game over for me at level 66. any advice would be great.
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
Thought it was impossible when I started to do it at 66, died 3 times once they start splitting toward the end. But can do it successfully now and repeatedly. This is what I do. I make sure I have mana potions and use them to try and stay topped off at mana most of the time and will down rank consecrate to 1 and 3 until mana pot is close to being off cooldown again. Mana is big. Then I also make sure to save bubble and dynamite and my spell dmg increase trinket for when they get low and start pathing incorrectly. When this happens, behind the portal, use trinkets, drop consecrate, bubble, dynamite, consecrate to do a 2nd burst phase. This will hopefully kill the ones that were really low and pathing badly as well as take all of the other ones down to a point where every mob is now low and slow. Say 30% or so down to 15% or lower. At this point you can kite them just about anywhere. As bubble is wearing off, I start running back away from portal and kite a big circle to the left (pov looking at the back of portal). There's a little gap between two rocks you can run through and funnel them all through. Drop consecrate in there as you head toward the front of the portal again and repeat. Run up stairs, drop off back and kite back and wide left through the small gap and back up front. Just make sure you are still tagging them with dmg, even a rank 1 consecrate. And again, after the 2nd burst phase you saved for when they do this, they should all be low and slow and just drag them around. Good luck!
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
As of right now I basically only do two burst phases. once at the beginning to initially stack and burst them and a second time when a few of them get low enough to start pathing the wrong way and cutting you off. Once you really get it down, you may be able to squeeze in a third for speed, but I'm not sure. To me, 2 burst phases is fine and making sure I have bubble, dmg trinkets, dynamite for 2nd time is huge to doing successfully. Otherwise, you won't live long if you have ones cutting you off and the rest still running almost full speed. 2nd burst is entirely to eliminate the low ones and bring the rest of the pack to really low and slow. Even if this way causes each run to take a minute or two longer, its still really fast for the level range and nothing slows you down more than trying to speed up every aspect of it and taking unnecessary risk and dying. That's a waste of 15 minutes at least. I'm getting about 70-75k xp per run (non-rested) with around 120 mobs or so and doing it in about 18-22 min. per run including the initial round up. This is about 220k xp/hr and just over 3 hrs/level rate. This is still much faster than questing or dungeon spamming in my opinion, especially as a paladin when it comes to questing. And this is at level 66. Also, I have done it successfully only like 5 times now, but all in a row. As I continue to do it, I'm sure I will be able to trim off time during the round up and kill phases as I get more comfortable. I also have 450 defense (you only need 445 not 465 as he stated to not get dazed) and around 200 spell power with gear, wizard oil, elixir. Auction house is great for getting greens with high defense or SP.
@JamesPeacock3 жыл бұрын
@@zachblaha766 Hey Zach. Thanks so much for your reply its very encouraging. I tried about 5-6 runs and was only able to do 1 successfully and felt like it was luck. Looking back tho, on the one pull I did kill them I had to do some extra kiting at the end when they were all slow like you mentioned. I think the big key here that im missing is timing the 2ND burst phase correctly. I think I was trying to do it too early and then only 70% of the would be slow not 100%. I do agree it become pretty easy once they are all slow. My biggest issue is HALF will be slow, go around to the left,and cut me off. With my gear I can only handle 3-5, not more. I have no where near the defense you have tho. Im holy main. Hmm. I'll keep trying today. Really want to do level this way from 66-70.
@zachblaha7663 жыл бұрын
@@JamesPeacock I totally feel you. Once I saw this, I was really hoping it was something I could reliably do to 70 as questing and dungeoning with pugs is terribly slow it feels like. If you can afford to respec and grab some greens off AH it could help but not totally necessary, except pursuit of justice in the ret tree is big. The defense is really just for not getting dazed while rounding them up. if you have that down, then don't worry about it. Don't get discouraged, it can definitely be done reliably. I really think bursting them down the 2nd time is what solidified it for me. I always made sure I had at least 50% mana, bubble, dynamite, spell dmg trinket ready to go for when I saw them start to go the wrong the way. Once the mobs looked like they were at maybe 40% or so, instead of just hopping down and standing a bit to right like he shows, I actually went around that right corner a bit to try and encourage the mobs to come that way. got to be able to turn around run away quick though as soon as you see them about to turn that first corner though. this seemed to helped get them to go the right away a bit longer (I think, might just be in my head lol). but yeah if I notice its only like 1-3 crocs pathing the wrong way, ill try and run through them (rank 1 holy shield helps if you got it) and continue the normal route for at least 1 more pass. I can't handle more than 3-5 mobs either. If I see that its 4+ mobs then I just stand in the middle of the back of the portal, in between all the mobs coming from each direction, consecrate (if I have time for a global until they reach me), then bubble, they should be taking dmg now from consecrate, then dynamite them and re-consecrate again. With about 2 seconds left on bubble I start running away from the back of the portal and kite them the wide left path through the bottleneck spot and around the front again. repeat. With the 2nd burst phase I really aim to get the rest of the pack low enough to where I can outrun their movement speed. Then its just clean up, keeping up tags on them to ensure I don't lose xp. You got it. Give it a couple more tries and report back. Maybe if you still can't quite get it, ill add you and show you in discord or something! I really want people to be able to do this for leveling cause I know how rough 66-70 feels, at least for me lol :)
@JamesPeacock3 жыл бұрын
@@zachblaha766 Hey! I definitely did respec last night and grabbed consumables. I did forgot about Dynamite & Immulation Oil. Im going to grab those for my next attempts later today. Im confident in my ability to round them up and dmg them down to 30%. Just need to practice the 2nd kill phase. Love your idea of doing behind the portal. Im going to try a few more times today and if I have no luck I'd LOVE to add you on discord and chat it out/show you what I'm doing. Appreciate all the help. Want to save all my quests for 70 for more gold so really want to make this work. Perfect for podcasting/lvling.
@aughban3 жыл бұрын
have they changed something? You seen to get crazy few ebon stacks than I get with similar gear
@aughban3 жыл бұрын
So I spent some time adjusting my gear to figure this out. Ultimately I had to increase my block value to above 159 in order to reduce the number of ebon stacks. This helped a lot with the burn phase and maintaining mana over the course of a kill. Managed to do a run in 15 mins in a standard hc spec. Farm is quite good with skinning, without it.. probably not worthwhile
@statichispanic63443 жыл бұрын
Yeah these poisons instakill me.... in the whole "righteous armor" set, the same aoe build as you, 11000 armor, 480 defense, 18.5% block. Once I get them down to the 30% and their pathing starts to mess up, theres almost no recovery for me since you're only fast enough to kite slowed mobs. And cleanse can only do so much against 8 poisons triggered on you hitting you at a total of about +800dps Any suggestions or alternatives for the kill phase?
@R1D1CK693 жыл бұрын
Hi man! Solution for you, stop dmg at 40% of their hp.. and go insta kill phase with all cd, bcs if you pull alot mobs and they split at 30% you are almost always dead
@Moredakkamus3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I got unlucky but full pull, barely missed looting 3 or 4 mobs and all the trash was worth 6g and I got 1 green worth 5. Skinning was decent but HKL is only 1.9 to 2g on my server. Have to pull really hard to hit 100g/hr out of this place.
@LastRoseOfWinter2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to potentially necro a dead thread here, but I just started learning this path today. It went rather poorly. I keep doing just find until some of them hit that 20% threshold. Then, as I'm trying to manage to get to a burst phase, the monsters desync and kill me. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, though I do know my spell power is rather low. Could low spell power be the reason I can't manage the moment more than 2 or 3 monsters hit 20%?
@jacobpope112 жыл бұрын
Threashold is 25% so you want to watch them as they get close to that. I kite around using rank one concecration until they are at 27% and then kill phase. That kicks them all down below that 25% for sure and then I have more control with the entire group moving slow. If you are doing this at 66 that is doable, thats when I started farming it. You probably dont have enough SP to do what he does and once they get really low you are out of CDs and mana. At that point I had to start kiting the group out around the NW or NE side of the portal around the large rocks and back to the stairs. Then drop your concencration and drop off the back and repeat that large circle kite if needed until they are dead. If the group splits between the sides while they are slow you need to jump off the back and go straight back to the back wall of the dungeon and then kite in a large circle either east or west back around to the stairs and repeat until dead.
@ryankings67553 жыл бұрын
anyone doing this at 66 - iv managed it fairly consistently with 400 spell power 6.5k hp, 6.5k mana. im prot but honestly i actually think holy would be better. 100-120 mobs roughly 55-60k exp / run 12min clears but 20mins with looting/skinning. ill bubble @ the start of KP to group them and get a bit of burst in and once they start spliting up @ 25% ill get another burst phase in then just do a longer loop dropping low rank cons around. id forget about the portal drop at this point because your never going to get them all on it. so just do loops and get them as grouped as you can and just keep ticking away. every now and then a run get fooked by a demount daze which you can avoid by getting 445 defence if you want..but i went with the high risk fast reward strat.
@RoyaleInk3 жыл бұрын
Whats the best route to take? Is there a pattern or do you just go zick zack till you get everything?
@devondenham73093 жыл бұрын
Not really a best route. I’ve tried different paths, but it’ll only save you at most a minute 30 seconds
@billypoker78223 жыл бұрын
best route is after you entered the swamp go right hug the wall. make 2 full circles same spot. dont pull second time let the train of mobs do the pulling for you, just circle twice. takes like 6 minuts to do. then kill them shit.
@steffenbrygg79073 жыл бұрын
Is the -healing on the poison debuff new? tested it today and they ganked me even with figurine up
@jimpagnini31583 жыл бұрын
Hi, Arlaeus! Do you have any farming ideas for a paladin/warlock combo? maybe it might make the BM farm in this video more efficient? Maybe there's a much better farm spot you can think of? Thanks in advance!!!
@shadowplay72123 жыл бұрын
@Arlaeus Good afternoon. I really liked your video. And as the addon is called which shows how many golds in an hour it is possible to earn??
@karlomladenovic36373 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else having a problem with way too many ebon poison stacks? I spam cleanse like crazy but most of the time the poison just slurps my hp.
@TheeFreakiishlyz3 жыл бұрын
Yup.. I'm getting 3-5 times more than Arlaeus does.
@theperfectbeing2 жыл бұрын
I was doing this farm for a while but honestly I had to quit doing it because of how tilting a wipe can be based on no fault of your own. I'd say its about 50/50 as to whether the mobs die at seemingly equal rates or if they somehow manage to melee leeway hit you despite being around the corner or already on the ground from the back. The money from it was solid but I'm not a fan of any aoe farm that requires 5 to 10 mins of repeating the same gathering process if you mess up. Also the rate of poison application debuff is completely random, I've seen having 2 poison debuffs on me after a colossus block phase and other times ending up with 10, which can be problem because at that many you have to dispel them immediately or die in the next 8 secs. I honestly prefer the outdoor SMV aoe pulls or the Strat + rocket boot pulls over this because there's way less variance due to no slowing of mobs at different hp amounts.
@gwallace54032 жыл бұрын
Your comment's a bit old, but I agree with you on the tilt/repetitive motions. After 3 runs I feel bored. I've done this a fair share now, but it is in fact your/our own fault. If you have Sanctity on or Ret aura, you will deal uneven damage simply gathering them up. One mob is going to have lower HP than the rest almost every time due to parry haste. If you know your damage % of their health, you need to push them from whatever they have to < 25% each. Due to the tick rate on consecrate and mob pathing, I find myself with some mobs 10% lower than others for example, and I need to make laps around without dropping spells until I have cooldowns to push the higher HP mobs to 25% so they are slowed as well.
@Nathrezim14533 жыл бұрын
Sporregar shield?
@seraph...44733 жыл бұрын
It only saves one consecrate. Its not very good.
@VedaWarlock3 жыл бұрын
not here
@MikoGaming-r8c3 жыл бұрын
Hey, today I tried to make a run on 70 lvl, 500 g per hour does not work out in any way, skin for 1 run comes out x50, 7-10 cobwebs and trash a little, I tried to dise things, but in most cases it is better to sell to a merchant, in general 1 run was 11 minutes + 3-4 minutes to collect loot and leather. well 250 gold can be made per hour, but not 500. If I'm doing something wrong, tell me, and what is more profitable Stratholme or black morass?
@Haemos3 жыл бұрын
Once they hit 20% or so, they split into two packs and I get rushed and killed. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm lvl 70, doing the burst strat.
@justinlee93323 жыл бұрын
Hi Arlaeus, great video. What rank Consecrate do you use for this?
@Flamethelame3 жыл бұрын
r1 for when u do the jump max rank for burst phases
@kushhhhuk3 жыл бұрын
So where is the level 66 version?
@OlEnglish800HG3 жыл бұрын
great content but I don't think I have ever seen one of your videos where you actually do the runs at the level you say you can do it at.
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
I’ll make a 66 video at some point :). Old mage videos I did but with TBC just coming out I had to rush 70 and gear
@Dan-cq2hy3 жыл бұрын
As a consequence of how popular this farm has become netherweb spider silk is now 2g ea already on my realm, lol.
@deadlyhoneyduw3463 жыл бұрын
lol im still making about 30g a stack.... disenchant all greens... pick up skinning... its still pretty good
@gravyholicbear3 жыл бұрын
@Arlaeus Would Divine Shield work instead of BoP?
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@eddypirone89833 жыл бұрын
Hi friend. Sorry if My English is Bad, what is that shield u use in the min 5:06 i have one paladín prot but i don't have that shield what have 1min cd. Thanks for all friend i like so much ur channel.
@jdezenzio83723 жыл бұрын
This does not work. I get poisoned non stop so either they fixed it or you are missing a step.
@DaoistQ Жыл бұрын
How does it work that you reflect so much damage to every mob with Holy shield? I thought Holy shield only has 4 charges?
@angrycupra86363 жыл бұрын
Would you not be better having the spell power enchant on your legs over the 30 stam 10 agi?
@billypoker78223 жыл бұрын
100 times better,
@Cahrub3 жыл бұрын
Hey Arlaeus! Awesome video, just tried this out on my 68 pally and was able to do it after 2 wipes. Quick question, how does the xp diminish work while solo dungeoning again? I only received about 78xp from each mob after killing them all, does it have to do with me dying multiple times, or was I not dealing damage as consistently during the kill phase? Thanks!
@claychandler35563 жыл бұрын
If you get a mob down to 10% health and dont hit it for 30 seconds. You'll only get 10% of xp. Just keep damage more consistent
@Cahrub3 жыл бұрын
@@claychandler3556 Oh I never knew that, thank you!
@heidingsfelder5043 жыл бұрын
whats the xp like on your mage? or did you only run this once?
@Bilobilas3 жыл бұрын
Arlaeus is meta youtuber best!!!
@Sjimable3 жыл бұрын
Ive tried this run multiple times (mostly succesful), what do you do when u get 10 poisons on u within a gcd (just bad luck)? Had to use bubble but had forbearance debuff.
@larsson853 жыл бұрын
Stoneform if you are dwarf
@Sjimable3 жыл бұрын
@@larsson85 Ye good tip, but I'm BE. Just saw a video uploaded by Arlaeus saying the procs of poisons from the spiders depends on block value. Was running it with Shield of the Void, might be alot better now since I've upgraded that
@vunioqgaming51163 жыл бұрын
Ehmmm i have the gear, and when i attempted to tank the whole squad, i was doted 9 times in 1 second (and i cant dispell it fast enough) i mean, why are you not beign doted like i am? You only had 3-4 dots, did you pull the whole spiders? if you did, what im doing wrong?
@xsbutter3 жыл бұрын
They nerfed this farm. It's not as easy anymore.
@LanreHimring3 жыл бұрын
Dunno if you still need the help, but the most important thing to avoid getting that much poisons stacks it's increasing up your block rate (the other avoidance stats helps too) and having dabiri's and colossus (watch out because the dabiri's has only 15 secs effects while the colossus have 20, but you'll die or almost lose a lot of your health so only tank them 15 secs and keep running)
@xsbutter3 жыл бұрын
@@LanreHimring Are you still doing it? I mean is this farm still intact or has blizzard nerfed it?
@LanreHimring3 жыл бұрын
@@xsbutter i'm not sure if it was nerfed, but I'm still doing it and getting a decent amount of gold, drops a lot of items and also skinning brings a lot of leather
@xsbutter3 жыл бұрын
@@LanreHimring Thanks! Still leveling my prot paladin.
@martinrasmussen58983 жыл бұрын
If you have another toon with skinning would it then be possible to park that one inside and relog to skin after killphase?
@slats21183 жыл бұрын
it would be hard they despawn very quick
@martinrasmussen58983 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ruitorrao_3 жыл бұрын
where cna i find that seal WA? been looking everything and cand find. ty in the advance!
@jiipo32 жыл бұрын
What level of consecration do you guys use? I have 5.2k mana and I really struggle with mana.
@danteuniverse2 жыл бұрын
Probably rank 1 and 3
@Calthaza3 жыл бұрын
My OCD cries at your Addon shotrcuts on the MiniMap
@heyBurmecia3 жыл бұрын
If corpses disappear 2 minutes after dying, how do you have time to loot and skin 100+ enemies?
@theonetheone64953 жыл бұрын
There’s an addon i believe where you’re able to loot quickly with auto loot on doesn’t late 2 mins to loot 100 enemies
@pepsicherry63893 жыл бұрын
@@theonetheone6495 The Addon is called, SpeedyAutoLoot-2.1.0
@deadlyhoneyduw3463 жыл бұрын
If you dont loot a mob it despawns after 5 mins if you loot a mob and it cannot be skinned.... it despawns after 2 mins you can wait 4 mins to loot a mob then having 5 mins after looting to skin said mob...
@Thegiggleofsteel3 жыл бұрын
How does DFB hold up at 70? Any changes to its proc rate as you lvl up?
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Yes due to you blocking more damage so it procs less
@robinnowak12383 жыл бұрын
As a 66 paladin is it maybe better to go for a max consecrate damage spec ? As the mobs shouldn’t even hit with the tactic. What do you guys think ?
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
Max consecrate is the 0/31/30 :)
@gregg37913 жыл бұрын
does crusade actually increase damage if youre just fighting beasts?
@benjaminzaugg11273 жыл бұрын
What about the Sporeggar Shield? seems like a good option for these kinds of runs
@1986Boomboom3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think it will make it much faster
@d0k0night3 жыл бұрын
The thinking around Sporeggar shield seems to be that the damage output is not worth it vs the mitigation gained from the Sha'tar shield.
@benjaminzaugg11273 жыл бұрын
@@d0k0night I disagree, while you got the trinket running I'm rarely dropping in HP anyway. Unless I get 5+ stacks of the spider poison
@VedaWarlock3 жыл бұрын
not worth, u only face tank the mobs once every 2 min on trinket cooldown and only for 15 sec. but other shields can give more int stam block
@longknife12213 жыл бұрын
My only thought on Petrified Lichen is that the RNG proc damage it does will stagger up your pull and cause more mobs to be at a lower hp value earlier than others, resulting in getting boxed in as you run around.
@chexet30252 жыл бұрын
are there any videos of a lvl 66 paladin accualy doing this?
@Nyt2503 жыл бұрын
Crusade doesnt work against beasts, might cut that out
@arlaeus94913 жыл бұрын
haha very good point! i've read it so many times and just skipped over that. thank you!
@undacuvabrotha3 жыл бұрын
But.. do you think a shaman could do this? I became basically a pro at the ZF AoE farm, and seeing this wants me to give it a go. As a matter of fact, are you aware of any shaman AoE farms in TBC?
@nofatherfigure85993 жыл бұрын
What are u using to auto loot? I find it really hard to loot the mobs while having skinning
@qwaffless3 жыл бұрын
I had this same issue, I speed it up with leatrix plus speed up loot option and keybinding>targeting>interact w/ mouseover to scrollwheel up and down