WoW Classic Race Picking Guide - Horde Part 1

[@madseasonshow]

Yes I'm still alive! Sorry this took so long - was a much tougher video to make compared to the Alliance one. Wanted to make sure I did it right. Will have part 2 for you in a few days most likely. Edit: I promised I would update if the tauren hidden range racial made it in...and it did! clips.twitch.tv/DeadTiredHareOhMyDog

[@adefender3399]

Great vid! Hyped for classic wow!

[@williamdagenais7444]

I already watched these types of guides dozens of time but there isn’t any other way of consuming vanilla wow currently :(

[@robo8773]

You always sound like that 😂

[@tack211]

Thank you MSS - you're content IS the bar. Keep raising it for everyone else!

[@velazquezn]

I know what you did... Cosmo Canyon theme for taurens. :D :D :D

[@footsteps2179]

0:42 "I'm assuming people won't be watching both videos" Madseason, you doubt my love for you

[@SNARE_DESECRATOR]

i watched both as well :)

[@ARGOS-THOR]

same!

[@madseasonshow]

Aww =]

[@xplicitmike]

Same

[@koberowland9798]

@@madseasonshow I would say same but.... For the horde

[@MrBecherak]

You forgot to mention tauren has the most overpowered racial in the game, beneficial to ALL classes. Your /moo emote is voiced!

[@graemeguthrie8758]

I legit scared some one with it. They thought it was an npc!!

[@bigsmerf8158]

@@graemeguthrie8758 underrated comment

[@Masterchezze]

Troll > Everything else. Because im regenerating 5hp per second. *And There Is Nothing You Can Do About It*

[@p1tz0n16]

I bet you're the kool kid at skool

[@TN-qk8jf]

Mortal strike incoming!

[@azariahthealkhemist2665]

For dah Horde

[@openg739]

Also, they have that halitosis joke going for them

[@thedootlord]

Say it again and ill mortal strike the Enough rp for next rank up

[@Tenshuzente]

Who is here for 2024 classic fresh?

[@monogonman7804]

Me!

[@pakulalagaming5671]

Mage undead on the way, or tauren warrior.

[@DaisyChaine]

No thanks just warcraft pls

[@TheParallelSound]

Yup

[@ffarkasm]

First advice: Never let racial skills or abilities determine your choice of race. (Even if you play priest.) Play the race and the class whichever you feel the most comfortable with. It is RPG. It is more important that you enjoy the game than some random other guy gets your fear ward or that you have 5 more sword skill.

[@cam9144]

ffarkasm - thanks Mom

[@coffeebux]

You will be staring at your character a lot. If the undead spine sticking out of their shirt is gross don't be an undead. Or if you don't want all the cow jokes and think the troll has the coolest looking shield block for tanking be a troll

[@magr187]

I was an orc warrior in vanilla, and rerolling alliance in TBC I really understood the incredible value of 25% stun resist. It's night and day really.

[@RW77777777]

not being stunned by a warrior Charge/Hammer of Justice due to Hardiness while your mounted is the best feeling not today Satan

[@Justaguyyoutubin]

Orc is the clear choice for pvp. I didnt realize the impact hardiness had either until years later... Fears in pvp? Warrior fear on long cd, priest fear on 30 sec cd and warlocks. Warlocks dont matter because they are SUPER underpopulated ally side due to 40-50% of horde rolling undead and having wotf. Warriors have STUUUUUUUNS charge, intercept, grenade, tidal charm, unstoppable force (about 50% or more of all warriors who hit max will get unstoppable and never upgrade it), mace specialization, conc... Needless to say having 30% stun resist is more impactful in a fight with a warrior who will likely attack you with 10-15 stuns throughout the fight while only using 1 fear. Priests have their 30 sec fear, but honestly... In pvp Spriests will be spamming rank 1 shadow word pain for blackout procs. Most good pvp healers also put points into blackout for the cc/peeling as well... They are going to be landing A LOT more stuns than fears. All of this considered, even the classes who use fears, rely on and use MORE stuns so hardiness is just better... That doesnt even mention ALL the stuns in the game, impact (fire mage), imp concus(hunter), intimidation(hunter), pounce(druid), bear stun(druid), kidney (rogue), cheap shot (rogue), mace spec (rogue), hammer of justice(paladin) warstomp (tauren-duels) and that is just off the top of my head. Im sure im missing a ton, not to mention itemized stuns other than unstoppable and nade... *A quick point on unstoppable force. Warriors will account for about 15-25% of level 60s depending on which faction youre playing... This is consistent from Classic poles to private server values and is a repeating occurrence every time a server launches. People KNOW warriors become crazy strong and a lot of people will go warrior due to this. When AV releases, ALL of those warriors will be getting AV rep maxed and using unstoppable (and other rewards) unless they have been able to pick something up in a raid. As time goes on a significant portion of warriors will continue to use unstoppable forever. All the warriors who are dungeon crawlers and dont raid, will have unstoppable for pvp forever. All the warriors who pvp exclusively and arent able to reach rank 14 will all be using unstoppable. A lot of warriors who are in raid guilds but are saving their rolls/dkp for their pve set will all be using unstoppable. I cant stress how significant that weapon is and how common it is. This means that a class that is incredibly bursty and threatening in pvp, that will be heavily populated and ALREADY uses a ton of stuns, will likely be wielding an item with a built in stun and will likely be specced for mace with another chance to stun... Hardiness. Fucks. Warriors. Up.... Hardiness. Fucks. Rogues. Up. Consider a ret paladin. They have NO gap closer. They can use a consume or try to use terrain to cut you off and gap close... If they are able to close the gap, they have ONE chance - hammer of justice on a long cooldown. In most circumstances, against most classes Rets win condition is heavily reliant on hammer and as an orc you have a 30% chance to completely ignore that stun. Assuming they land the stun, they may have a chance, but if they cant and youre a ranged class? You win without taking damage. This is the beauty of hardiness. It isnt great against one thing. Its incredible against EVERYTHING. Which doesnt even speak to the other advantages orcs have (depending on your class). Hardiness could be 15% stun resist and it would STILL be the BiS racial for pvp by a fairly wide margin.

[@AdamMPick]

Back in Vanilla. Parking my orc warrior in Azshara to get something to drink. Come back and hear: *boing* *pause* *boing* *pause* *boing*, around five times. Sit down, look around. *boing* "Oh someone is here!" Pop bloodrage+demo shout: rogue gets into combat, tries to run away. Gets rooted with hamstring, pops his evasion thing, dies a horrible death, with overpower and HoJ procs, while beeing stunned by mace spec and Unstoppable Force. He missed his sap at least six times in a row.

[@Williaem00]

Justaguyyoutubin this is true for sure , as I am a paladin main. I am holy/shockadin spec, but if you go deep ret repentance helps close the gaps .

[@Dogmilk235]

Every once and a while I get the urge to play WOW despite never ACTUALLY playing it. I get to live vicariously through you given I don’t have a computer. I thank you for that 🤜🤛

[@blondiwithstyle]

As an old school undead arms warrior who grinded exalted with Alterac Valley, I can inform you that will of the forsaken was invaluable in PvP. The high amount of skilled warlocks who would seduce you with their succubus, or the rogues that would blind you just so that they could use every cooldown on you and chain them until you died, turned that skill into a blessing from above. Chain fearing was also a thing from Warlocks. I won so many fights that I would not have won if I would have been another race. Skilled Warlocks and Rogues was not something to take lightly in vanilla. Also, if you did not have a healer that would spotheal you in PvP, then cannabalize was amazeballs between fights.

[@dantefrozenapathy]

Had to thumbs up this comment simply for the use of amazeballs.

[@Elthenar]

@Ezra Everything the OP here says was true, for the unnerfed WOTF that lasted 30 seconds. It was the end all be all. This one lasts 5. It's usefull, but it isnt the blanket fear/seduce immunity that could last you a whole fight against a warlock.

[@TheChocolatePeacock]

@Ezra well not anymore pal

[@damuses1452]

@@Elthenar Exactly! I loved having my 30 second WotF racial! My Undead warrior and rogue both loved it. When they nerfed it to 5 seconds the Undead race became oh-so-average.

[@jonxsage]

You know, I’ve been watching your videos since the early legion days. You’re not as monotone as you used to be. You’re much more relaxed and definitely have more emotion in your voice! Either way, it’s the most relaxing voice. Thank you sir

[@edwardhofschneider5921]

"So you'll have about 20 minutes of Super Saiyan Monotone 3" *hears the same soothing voice* All is well ^_^

[@Maebbie]

haa- ...

[@madseasonshow]

And this...is...to go even further beyond. AHHHHHHHHHHH-

[@lolman1994lol]

Thumbed up just for that comment xD

[@bass-dc9175]

@@madseasonshow You mean: And this ... is ... to go even further beyond. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......

[@vohbovohborian28]

Tauren is easily the best tank for me. I never had problems with threat generation, so I don't see it as very valuable at all. The 5% hitpoints though, that's just amazing. The reasoning that these only matter when you are in those bottom 400-500 hp is completely backwards of course: 1) The higher your health, the easier it is to heal. Healers can use bigger heals, preserve more mana, let hots do more work, and generally have an easier time. 2) What kills the tank is always damage spikes, which this helps to survive. There might be a time when your healers are (for whatever reason) unable to heal you. This helps you with that.

[@p0pl0ckr0d3]

Yeah his reasoning for that 5% being useless when you're not dipping that low makes no sense. Why have any extra stamina at all then?

[@concordetaekwondo]

My bearform always wrecked shop tanking=)

[@thisiswarhuhwow6120]

Someone never made it past molten core

[@holyreality02]

don't worry about ppl who call you "monotone" because you're really not that much. you make excellent chill videos so keep it up man. i haven't even played wow since mists and i still enjoy your vids

[@kryptonian5539]

I thought I was going to be bored with this but it turned out to be very informative and a testament to how well this stuff was straight forward thought out back then

[@thed00d81]

LMAO "And there he was. Just standing there. Regenerating 5 hp per second." I glared at the troll. The Troll glared back at me "And theres nothing you can do about it" The troll whispered. hahahahaha!!!

[@aloxel5738]

Where can i find the whole text? it just sounded so funny^^

[@jbbrky]

Aloxel wowhead’s troll regeneration section

[@afallingmoose11]

i cant wait to enjoy the actual rpg element to this game again

[@davidyo8922]

Cannibalism was the teabagging of vanilla which makes it the best racial ever

[@skyseersti]

Troll's beastslaying works vs druids in pvp.

[@SinOfAugust]

Also pretty sure it works on a lot of ZG shapeshifter bosses.

[@MrBlancify]

Against Flag Carriers in other words

[@maxxvii2037]

Skyseer Auto oh shi

[@Annathroy]

Makes me wonder who the real beasts are in this scenario

[@danielskrivan6921]

The bucket analogy is wrong. HP is always good because it provides a buffer. When I was a tank in WotLK, I incorrectly believed that avoidance was the way to go. I had about 22k HP (when other tanks had 35k HP), but I had around 70% avoidance (and they had 40%). What ended up happening is I got gibbed A LOT, but also healers burned through mana faster with me than with other tanks. That's because if the other tanks got hit for 15k HP, they were still at 60%, where I was down to 25%. So where you could use an efficient heal on the other tank and get them back up, you had to burn big heals on me to get me back up to a safe amount of health (where I wouldn't die on the next swing). You're not just giving yourself an insurance policy of 5%. You're also giving the healer more breathing room to keep you topped off.

[@JimmyMon666]

If you are down to 25%, I probably would be using fast heals instead of big heals to at least get you over 50%. It depends on the healer, Paladins fast heals were pretty efficient mana wise, but this is in BC, I admit I don't have vanilla experience in this matter, just BC. I was a shaman healer and I often would not risk a slow big heal if the tank was at 25%, and it's unlikely I would be aware of your avoidance unless you told me. It's actually the bigger health pools that would drain my mana more, and that was usually bear tanks who had more health, but less avoidance. I preferred warrior tanks and maybe Paladin tanks most in BC. Bear tanks just seem to take so much damage. Ideally you should go for a good mix, obviously you want buffer health in case things go wrong, but having good avoidance will make your healers love you.

[@gutknechtop9469]

5% more health could also be more dmg from your healer. It all depends on how well and how risky your healer plays. If your healer only overheals you the 5% are useless. Buf if it enables him to manage mana/spells better and makes him throw a little dmg in it is valuable.

[@LoudWaffle]

It just goes back to the old wisdom that consistency is always better.

[@drewparry3729]

This is either my first or second youtube comment. I just wanted to say thank you for all the awesome content. I'm so nostalgic watching your videos and cannot wait until classic is out. Thank you so much!

[@hubbs777]

Gave the masses a week to get ahead of me in classic. Stoked to dive in today and so happy I watched this first. Great job man. happy hunting

[@PowerCrafter123]

"A little more dead THAN USUAL" I laughed harder than I should^^

[@NateTheScot]

tauren melee range is actually 9 yards, meaning that tauren hunters have NO DEAD ZONE which is massively important when considering playing a horde hunter especially for pvp, where smart mages and rogues would try to stay in the deadzone (out of range of melee, too close for ranged attacks) in order to avoid taking damage from you. I feel like this is a BIG THING that you failed to mention here.

[@Jitterzz]

That edit @ 22:02 was beautifully done! Awesome work right there!

[@anti6868]

Jitterzz Yesss, great video

[@grimawormtongue1949]

Your voice is the most relaxing voice I've ever heard.

[@Coeurebene1]

I don't even play WoW but I love this channel. So chill.

[@mbmsk5980]

i never played wow back in the day but i watched so many of your vanilla videos that i'm exited for the official classic servers

[@tichieljuspian3458]

Surprising pick of having Trolls as the best tanks. I didn't really think about them as tanks before, but I agree with you. Also am glad you talked about Tauren reach, and how the Blizz Classic servers currently don't emulate that. : 3

[@xml571]

Oh they do. Now at least us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-not-a-bug-list/175887?fbclid=IwAR0RVkMOI1ELYWKrBAJcAdhkRtlZXofsGNIGbM5Nel0N5WHNkSyIVhNNUDk

[@Leftyswinger]

I think I can speak for the majority of watchers when I say that we don't mind the redundant explanations; in fact, I appreciate them - no need to mention to skip it.

[@Feathalise7]

I just love your background music, so much ff music and other games, when you played the risk of rain music i immediately recognized it, keep up the great work man! :)

[@mithrylmoonlight]

4:00 MAD respect for using a song from Risk of Rain by the way

[@brad1426]

Man, I remember back in TBC when I first tried out WoW, my friends made me make a night elf (boooo) and I decided to go with warrior there (double booooo), but when I saw the undead I instantly knew what side I wanted to be on, and what character I wanted to play. So I made an undead warlock towards the end of TBC, and I eventually leveled him to max in the middle of Wrath. He's still my main today! ^_^ Idc what people say about the story, I still like it, and ultimately even with the flaws of later expansions it does feel cool to be playing a character I've been playing for several expansions. There's a sense of history to all the experiences I've had on that character, and it really does feel like a journey of sorts. Bring back tier sets tho, Blizz, plz.

[@Tubleorne]

Doesn't beastslaying allow you to do extra damage against Druids since they are considered Beasts when in Cat/Bear Form?

[@georgepachulia6071]

first of all thanks for making these videos. Now what I am about to say is not a joke or meant disrepect to you, but man your voice is soo soothing that it pretty much cured me from my isnomia. When im in best I just put your video on and listen to it and its the most caliming there is for me, your only competition is some rly strong meds. Please keep more content comming, as a wow fan I find all your videos interesting, so I’m not falling asleep because of boredome. I wish you did audio books. That my wish for this year.

[@Blizark]

You're doing a severe injustice to the tauren HP racial. 5% is massive when talking min-maxing. Berserk provides a completely negligible amount of threat over a fight that it isn't worth mentioning, and will of the forsaken is only useful on two raid fights. Its worth mentioning too that Blizzard nerfed the tauren racial from 5% health to 5% base health (MASSIVE nerf) in Burning Crusade because of how strong it was.

[@Justaguyyoutubin]

Naw. Taurens are awful. Tanking is about threat. That is it. Orcs generate the most threat. Axe spec is huge and Berserk is not negligible, it is massive in very specific circumstances... That being said, its often unusable for tanking due to the healing debuff. I agree that undead warrior with wotf is possibly the worst class/race combo in game given how many answers warriors already have for fear mitigation - a complete waste. Tauren 5% is... okay? I mean, no one is going to argue that health isnt good for tanking right? But the reality is that low end guilds will bring far more healers than they need and healing will NEVER be an issue. In top end guilds, warriors will be rolling as fury, even dual wielding in many cases to increase threat per second so survivability is not a priority because the MOST important factor is threat per second. Competent healers will be able to keep up tanks. Bosses are very... very... very forgiving. PVE is very... very... very forgiving. You could roll an undead warrior and tank all the content in the game (despite it being the worst tank/race combo horde side) and it wouldnt matter. So either youre min/maxxing and go Orc, or it doesnt matter... If you choose your race for pve and you are min/maxxing, orc is the clear choice for top end guilds where threat is more important than anything else. If you are choosing a warrior racial for pvp, orc is still the optimal choice (by a wide margin). If you are choosing a pve dps for warrior, orc is still the correct choice. Either you choose you race because YOU want to be a tauren/undead/troll... OR you min/max and choose an orc. This doesnt even mention hardiness... which is the BiS pvp ability ingame. Orcs are broken. I wish they werent, but they are.

[@SkeppoGaming]

@@Justaguyyoutubin tanks are not really using axes or are they? like in the video i thought tf or quel serrar is the way to go?

[@Justaguyyoutubin]

@@SkeppoGaming Tanking is about threat per second. TPS above all else. On private servers tanks are going dual wield fury with double axes to establish threat. If they need to swap to a shield, they do. But essentially the raid goes BALLS deep for the first 1-3 seconds of a fight, SPIKING threat, the tank then TAUNTS putting him 1 threat ahead of max threat, RAID STOPS DPSing, and he dual wields to create MAXIMUM threat, at which point he equips a shield. This is the most efficient way to tank. You dont need to stand there with a sword and shield. You dont need as much active mitigation as people like to pretend. Instead of a raid standing there for 15 seconds watching a tank hit the boss and create terrible threat, this method spikes threat and allows the raid to go balls deep RIGHT away. It helps the tank with threat, and thus control and it speeds fights up by A SHITLOAD. Expect the meta to be similar to this on Classic. As for WHAT weapon tanks will be using. Depends on race and whats available to them. DPS > Everything else. DPS = TPS. Threat matters. You can always swap your weps / shield during a fight if you need extra hp/mitigation.

[@SkeppoGaming]

@@Justaguyyoutubin thx for this detailed answer! so i guess my way to go is def. orc warri. i always thoguht tauren is better for tanking especially in new content when the 5% really matters. it actually should be so when u engange new content with higher item requirements or not? sure when u are full equippt with stuff i understand to generate tps with dual wield but in new content!?

[@shaneturnes6458]

@@SkeppoGaming Quel'Serrar can carry you all the way to Naxx. Thunder fury is the best choice, but farming DM for the book isn't too bad an option for a weapon that can carry you a long way.

[@adamcipher4363]

You're videos are peaceful. Helps me sleep.

[@danielskrivan6921]

Will of the Forsaken has two advantages over tremor totem: 1) Especially in 5-mans, you might not have a Shaman 2) You can react faster than waiting for a tremor pulse (Also, your shaman may die)

[@Freakyjohnsson1]

Tauren is the best warrior since they look the coolest in the armor.

[@robertwelch2843]

As someone who has mained a Tauren prot warrior since BC, I 100% agree

[@marcuspellgaard9335]

The tier 1 helmet though, that's a low point in coolness.

[@Cinomod6066]

Nah they dont have feet man lol

[@beastwarsFTW]

Orcs, all hail the shoulder pads.

[@bornholmergamer]

You are one of the best wow classic video maker, you take is slow and right to the source 👌

[@coldfrostzero2000]

As a former Troll Warrior in classic, the HP/5 was not something to consider, until you got a lucky string of defensive rolls and you gained just enough hp back to survive the next hit when your group is dead and you finish off the mob. Happened a few notable times for me in dungeons.

[@Kligan]

If I remember correctly, Berserking can turn shaman's healing touch into 1.8 sec cast at 30% health (for 10 seconds!), which is super useful in both pvp and pve. I can't stress enough how many times berserking saved my buttocks as a shaman.

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

30% shamen looks dead to me lol

[@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH]

Don't care what anyone says. Undead will always be my favourite race!

[@Heathcz]

undead rouge/mage ftw

[@Zynnerr]

hell yeah i have a rogue a dk and a warlock and all of them are undead, for wow classic my main is also going to be an Undead \m/

[@AdrenalineRUSH0043]

Forsaken > Alliance > Horde.

[@Quitarstudent]

sry but i pick orc for those super big shoulders!

[@Michael-kd1ho]

Once ya go troll, ya nevah reroll mon

[@rwgeach]

best warrior race whether alliance or horde is the one that... sparks joy.

[@johnhandcock3242]

Wouldn't replacing a single tank item with a dps item more than make up for the Trolls atk speed buff? 5% hp if you have 4k hp is 200 hp, which is 20 stamina. The set pieces of tier 1 have about 20 stamina each.

[@paddystar7909]

someone probs already noticed but I'd like to point out that Tauren's increased melee range almost nullifies the hunter's dead zone. So Tauren Hunter is a really good combo imho

[@LoudWaffle]

Huh that’s a very neat detail, and very fitting considering how relevant hunters are to Tauren culture.

[@gruuzol6280]

Finally I been waiting a month for this ty madseason!

[@robertsanders7795]

WORLD OF WARCRAFT APPEALS TO THE MALE FANTASY... Men: *Having nightmares from Onyxia Raid flashbacks.*

[@LerRhann]

THAT'S A FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS!

[@soverythirsty8272]

I honestly like your monotone voice. Relaxes me. Keep up the good and honest content!

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Even though in game it suggests that the Undead are cannibals with their Cannibalize racial, in lore its supposed to be they replace damaged body parts with ones from their victims. That is why they can only use this ability on humanoid and undead victims but not beasts despite also being made of meat.

[@wirelessqball]

Once upon a time WoW had actual rpg elements in the game. I'm excited for classic but I'm also waiting for Blizz to be themselves and bastardise it, destroying the entire point of its creation.

[@robbanne95]

That's a pretty masochistic way of viewing it...

[@xSiC84]

I doubt Activision will mess this up. But because it is activision and not blizzard, I can not support this game. As much as I have wanted classic, because the company is no more and they have proven to not care. I will not fund their bad business practices. Even if that means I do not get to play an old favorite.

[@Obiika]

@@xSiC84 What the fuck are you talking about. Classic is developed by Blizzard's devs, Activision has literally no influence over it at all.

[@H41030v3rki110ny0u]

@@Obiika You are foolish to say "Activision has LITERALLY no influence over it" ... that's not how companies work, buddy.

[@Obiika]

@@H41030v3rki110ny0u Activision has influence over WoW. Not over Classic WoW. The Classic WoW dev team already has a budget and a project, there is nothing that Activision could do to impact that, contrary to what that guy says, yes.

[@adriangar95]

The best race to pick is which your heart tell you and not the math.

[@madseasonshow]

Also a valid strategy =]

[@Rabarbarzynca]

/Moo

[@lainwaker1519]

Taz Dingo!

[@NazarusGG]

Zug zug

[@Barholtworld]

*Ben shapiro comes bashing through your windows with a battleaxe and full barbarian armor yelling his signature battle cry* "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS"

[@zhhrah]

Also worth mentioning: The corpse of the cannibalized player disappears, which means he had to resurrect on the graveyard

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

Hey,Madseason, I am glad I watched this video, because I am a Regeneration Troll warrior, it's actually 20+hp per 2 sec in combat from about 200 spirit alone,and that's discounting lifestone trinket,and I'm also spec in fury so I get 35+ every 2 sec when I get crit by mobs,with blood thirst and a one hand dagger that gives self healing + some spirit gear also has healing effect modifiers on it ,food and cherry on top like Mighty troll blood potion,it gets really crazy,you gain health instead of lose them fighting mobs higher level than you, really useful for leveling from 35-60 and soloing lower level dungons.Very decent in dungon tanking and PVP against Paladins and not geared ppl. I'll describe like this,avg 80+ per 2 sec in combat means，30 sec fight you get 1000-1500 extra health.And if you have enough armor from your paladin gear lowering mobs dps to below 40 with defense stance,you can go afk in combat and cook some ramen and come back. Forgot to add,there is this level 44 armor chance on struck heals you for 60-100 which I used for the longest time, This self heal build is really nice for leveling up a warrior pre raid,and I always keep both bigdic set and spirit set in my bag

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

When I group up for quest and the other warr saw me “eat my food”，his jaws just drops.

[@MaraJadeSharpie]

Hooray! I have been looking forward to the Horde version. As someone who missed out on Classic the first time around, I'm trying to research as much as possible in preparation. :)

[@batratqqq]

I'll sound different today because I'm tired *Sounds the Exact Same*

[@connorbrown9500]

The Axe Specialization for Orcs is amazing for PvE tanking as well. It helps so much with threat. Other races need to get Edgemaster’s or Aged Core Leather Gloves and use daggers to acquire weapon skill. Having Orcs at #4 for PvE tanking is silly. I honestly think they should be #1 MAYBE #2 If a Tauren is willing to grind for Edgemasters bc then the 5% HP increase is very helpful.

[@Karne_BG]

Thanks dude! Was waiting for this since your alliance vid!

[@gi2703]

Like before watching

[@sounddrone8]

For the horde!

[@Mimsy_Crush]

nah ill pass

[@Reippa]

minus 8 Pass. So i can kill you in pvp

[@MAarshall]

@@Reippa You kill minus 8 and I cannibalize the corpse. FOR THE HORDE!

[@kendob9642]

The GOAT monotone KZbinr,

[@Immagonko]

I don't even play WoW anymore but I love watching your vids

[@nicolasdunaway9415]

Don’t forget that the troll beast slaying buff was nice when you wanted to pick off hunter pets in pvp. Maybe not so much in open world or 1v1, but in bg’s it’s common to catch them off-guard and eliminate their pets under their noses

[@amyfranks8781]

I finally made it on time, love the vids! I've been waiting for this because I'm a horde player and I can't wait for vanilla! Keep up the good work!

[@Mastuh1994]

Didn't the Troll +5% Beast dmg include Druid forms? This could be important, simply because Druid forms made sticking to Druids as a Warrior a pain, so more damage to them is helpful.

[@giga9955]

Called your tank ‘Kyphosis’, after a spine curvature that trolls suffer with... I like it

[@azuraquinlilax1245]

I don’t follow any of these guide videos..I just like watching them hahah😂😂 cause it gets me excited for the game

[@MAarshall]

Me too buddy :).

[@sznoob6179]

Finally! I've been watching and listening ur videos so much lately. I love your work, thank you for it.

[@lief3414]

If 5% total health isn't important why do tanks stack stamina so much?

[@HarithBK]

i would say you are underestimating the value of the tauren hp racial it's useage isn't for farm content it is for progress the tauren racial allows the tank to need less gear inorder to surive stuff. and with the challange of vanilla that is far more important than threat gen.

[@emperorcip9756]

Finally! Been waiting for this since forever!

[@Tsunamidusher]

You made a good point I hadn't considered as a Tauren Tank... I always thought they were meant for it due to the 5% HP increase, but if that's the difference between life and death for a tank, your healers aren't doing their jobs well... As a Druid Tauren Healer from Vanilla to Current, I have to shamefully agree. That makes sense.

[@ataridc]

The 25% stun resist is so ridiculously powerful if for no other reason than how powerful rogues are in classic.

[@nicklesueur1893]

man you have some really quality videos! lots of useful information! Very excited for classic here in 20 days! thanks for helping me get a good head start :)

[@Kiobao]

I'm actually glad you cited the music you used because once Calm Before the Storm cover by Super Guitar Bros was playing I thought "wait a second.. this isn't wow.. it sounds final fantasy..? WHAT IS IT" and had to look through your music you listed haha.

[@ceomusic7]

Not sure about vanilla but in classic private servers war stomp was effected by spell pushback. Which is pretty significant when fighting a hunter or rogue, pretty important information imo

[@evanfinley2198]

I love this guys voice its so soothing

[@filthyswit8664]

As for warriors being the hardest to level I never played one but I leveled a prot spec paladin to 60 ( yea I fell for the pallys can tank thing ) hard to imagine a harder slog than that ! Another great video man keep em comin !

[@akosberes1450]

When talking about the druid, could you please compare them to other classes that would fill up the same role? For example if we're to level a druid, is it viable to go for tanking or healing, or should we choose something else such certain roles?

[@godlyobject6509]

The Risk of Rain music choice was just inspired! Well done!

[@Ericpaulvogl]

Every time I hear the intro chime the last part always makes me think someone’s taking a fat bong rip.

[@mgnl7]

Cosmo canyon during the tauren part, nice little final fantasy 7 touch there :)

[@morganspector5161]

I started WoW years ago; my then-girlfriend (now wife) was very experienced, had a steady raid group, all that. She played Alliance Human and started me in Alliance. Then just for fun I played an Orc once, and was hooked on The Horde. Much more fun. I now play mostly Tauren, sometimes Orc. I tried Undead but didn't really care for the atmosphere. 4 D Horde!

[@Primalxbeast]

As far as tauren's size in pvp goes, I'm used to mostly playing tauren and decided to try rolling a goblin for pvp to see if I was less likely to be targeted, and I couldn't adjust to the point of view being that low to the ground. I was surprised that it seemed so different. It doesn't bother me to run around as a cat on my druids.

[@grimfistgaming7694]

Speaking as a prot warrior from Vanilla, Trolls Berserker racial was the best aggro racial in the entire game, used correctly (at lower Health levels ) it outclassed Orcs with an Axe and Bloodfury. In later raids this became pretty important if you wanted to clear faster, which was mainly limited by how much aggro a tank could dish out, especially without Paladins and their noob blessing.

[@cosmicriftgaming878]

About damn time! been waiting for this! Long time watcher first time commenter! Great vids bro

[@Dzeividz]

Didn’t even notice change in voice. Good old tired and bored voice as always 👌

[@IgurFourrure]

Can you do a real life race picking? I really want to optimise my character.

[@mathiassvendsen9788]

Igur Fourrure I find that Western White is nice.

[@oskarw.8633]

@Shinichi Kudo lol!

[@ja1kob3]

White/Jewish = Easy. Asian/Hispanic = Medium. Black/Arabic = Hard.

[@howdougetoutofhere]

I never noticed how the horde and alliance race thumbnails look towards each other menacingly as if they're in a war or something... neat.

[@oliverandersson1991]

Going for a Tauren Druid in classic, thanks for a informative video as always :)

[@anwaralexander3035]

I have watched both videos, you can't control what I watch when I like to watch what I want to watch

[@luislivro]

You could write the minutes for each guide, for quick search :) great guides! Keep up the good work

[@abrvalg321]

9:55 with 325 you could get black lotus with no chance to fail 13:30 in PVE trolls can undress and reequip their gear to have low health and use it from start for 20% bonus instead of 10%

[@Mr_Chode]

Feels like I've been waiting for this video since.... The alliance one lol.

[@PowerLvL9000]

Great video, can’t wait for part 2!

[@TeamScyther]

Real talk madseason I love your videos!!! Look forward to every upload

[@sprish00]

Risk of rain music.... you always pick the best songs for your videos

[@Drogny]

Watched the alliance vid yesterday and was searching for this one haha cool really like your videos man :D

[@madseasonshow]

Hope it helps!

[@tiptonjw]

This is dangerous I played 2004 WoW and think I might get back on!! I’m now 33 and my wife might actually kill me. Orc or Undead Rogue?? I mained UD rogue back then

[@ownageDan]

UD if you pvp. wotf is just too good.

[@lordfieldsworth595]

Yeah I’m watching both because these videos are so informative!

[@Vhailor_Mithras]

When you said Endurance was a dead racial that made me raise an eyebrow. But your reasoning made sense. It's the healers fault if you dip below the normal health pool... Gonna think on that one.