WoW Has Never Been So Broken: 20 Hours of MoP Remix

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We played a LOT of WoW Remix: Mists of Pandaria. Here, you'll learn new details about the system, and why we found it to be so refreshingly fun!
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[@cristhianmlr]

5:59 oximoron: Blizzard's servers are private, you play to access them. You mean PIRATE.

[@kbredstar529]

SoD + MoP + Dragonflight/War Within + Cocaine & whiskey = MoP Remix

[@thewalrus45]

I mean MoP always worked on doing balance by making EVERYONE OP so I guess Remix is just living up to that.

[@Magic2729]

Well 4.0.1(Cata) was infamous for it’s nerfs, so in some ways, only one way to go from Rock Bottom.

[@ryanpower1291]

Yeah being broken could just be a feature

[@kaynegariepy6382]

Wasn't there a mass exodus because of how bad MOP was lol?

[@GnomishTuesdays]

​@kaynegariepy6382 despite alot of people leaving during the end of MoP and start of WoD class balance was some of the best

[@Andrew-po8nt]

@@kaynegariepy6382 it was only because it had pandas and everyone is racist against China and only thought Blizzard made the expansion to appease to China, since 90% of players are from America and Europe and you're media all brainwashes you into believing China=bad because "communist". It's terrifyingly sad, but western propaganda is too strong.

[@HaterOfReddit]

As long as its fun, thats all that matters. Can't wait for more!

[@Jabarri74]

Played D4 ptr and that was also fun too. It's like someone at Microsoft said make your goddam games fun again

[@malfuresz7351]

@@Jabarri74 This is Christopher Metzen's doing for sure!

[@TakaChan569]

@@Jabarri74 That's not even close to what happened, if that was the case then they have dropped the ball with a crap ton of other ip lol.

[@Jabarri74]

@@TakaChan569 Who at this point cares who said what. As long as a gaming company is making fun stuff I'm happy

[@86Corvus]

No, its not all that matters.

[@pennybea]

Scholomance And Scarlet Monastery were redone in MoP which is why they are included in timerunning

[@godlygamer911]

He knows, it's weird it is part of the vale stuff though

[@bauscheusse]

God I genuinely hope it goes to live like this cause this looks insanely fun

[@sabrevanson4412]

so do I. Though i fear Blizz is going to "Fun Detected" and nerf everything....but, I hope they wont because its a limited time event. 4-6weeks long. So, let players have fun FFS!

[@LiquidSnake794]

​@sabrevanson4412 they always listen to the streamers who simply hates Retail and don't even play it. I love Retail now, DF has been great and keeps getting better.

[@sabrevanson4412]

@@LiquidSnake794 agreed. Has WoW had some misteps? For sure! Has Blizz done better with DF? Yes! Is DF perfect? No. But, its on the right track and War Within looks even more promising!

[@william6534]

Blizzard is paying people to comment positively on major youtube channels lol

[@sabrevanson4412]

@@william6534 ROFL how sad is your life to think that. stop watching WoW content if you have that low of an opinion on the company. Game is good and remix is actually fun.

[@BoomyNation]

Can confirm that PTR was crazy. I can't wait for release!

[@larslane30]

What I played I liked it. I know plunderstorm was for PVP players for fun. This is a pve for fun I'm glad I hope we see more of things like this.

[@WhatIfTheories]

Is there no PvP at all though? That really kills any reason to do it for me. This would be so much fun if there was some BGs to Que with this crazy power or dominate WPvP zones.

[@larslane30]

@@WhatIfTheories I have no idea. Never can tell. Guess it's just like all the pve people wanted plunderstorm to be pve content too. Never can tell.

[@NoOne4k]

Plunderstorm was NOT for PvP players. It has NOTHING to do with 3v3 arena. Its like comparing league to Counter strike because its PvP games, just no

[@warhawk8468]

​@@WhatIfTheories I know it has World PvP, had warmode on and ran into a small handful of horde with pvp mode on aswell

[@sabrevanson4412]

@@NoOne4k a battle royale is...all players against all other players...making it...follow me here, Player Vs Player or...PvP. I know your brain seems to think you need teams or what have you but, nope. It was a PvP centric event. just, yes.

[@TheInsanitor]

The bosses HP going down with the sped up Kazoo music, is honestly everything I want from MoP Remix 🤣🤣

[@RaddyC]

I would love to see blizz allow leveling by doing old raids. I’m a DF baby so the idea of being able to do ICC or Throne of Thunder at like level 37 excites me so much

[@Syngrafer]

Welcome to WoW!

[@decwow]

Thinking back as best as I can remember, my favorite raids from past expansions go like this: Naxxramas Onyxias Lair Sunwell Vault of Archavon Ulduar Ice Crown Citadel✓✓✓ Bastion of Twilight✓ Firelands Heart of Fear Throne of Thunder✓✓ Siege of Orgrimmar✓ Highmaul✓✓ Hellfire Citadel✓ The Nighthold✓✓ Tomb of Sargeras Uldir Battle of Dazar'Alor✓ Castle Nathria

[@Darkclowd]

​​@@decwow no BRF? Based BfDA higher than Nathria tho

[@LittleMissSmallPaw]

@@decwow you just listed 50% of all raids

[@thefakeJordan]

same dude!

[@fimmywa]

I like to think that Metzen is somewhere in the background shouting "Listen, its the best set of questzones we've ever made followed by some of the best raids and content ever released, we're going back to Pandaria goddamnit, one way or another"

[@maynardewm]

“And let’s make it so you don’t have to do 95% of those amazing quests and the raids will just be a faceroll!”

[@fimmywa]

@@maynardewm there are plenty of achievements and rewards catered to conpletionists as well as literally buckets of rewards tied to that gameplay style and the harder content is out there. The easy content is there for the players that want it and the difficult is there for those that want it. Why is it a problem that the guys that want to get where they want to be fast are able to do it? Logic like that is probably a core avoidance in the current dev team lmao, logic like that leads to artifact power forevergrinds.

[@ianwestc]

@@fimmywa Lack of any difficulty makes for an especially boring game.

[@fimmywa]

@@ianwestc which would definitely be relevant if there was any lack of difficult content, but there isn't, there's loads of it.

[@jmv2015]

I'm excited to play it once its out and really hoping Blizz is planning in the Legion Remix too!

[@Visher]

I hope this is like the new timewalking. TW dungeons are okay, but this would be far more fun if they cycled monthly for all xpacs. Would make gathering MOGs more enjoyable IMO.

[@etta1024]

"Hopped up on many different substances" 😆 I'm down.

[@ElekktrOde]

I started in Legion but loved farming stuff in MoP, super hyped to get to play it 😯

[@NumberRed]

I really hope they bring back MoP challenge dungeon sets. I'm sad I missed out on getting them and this could be a nice/interesting way of reintroducing those sets.

[@DeltaDragon79]

Really like this look of this. Might be what brings me back after a decade long hiatus.

[@EloquentTroll]

I always felt I missed out not playing MoP, I was on a long break at the time that didn't end until Legion. Even going back and doing Chromie Time there's only so much story you can see, and that almost never involves patch content and never involves raids. I really hope that is the test bed for a Chromie Time rework

[@rekt4083]

this looks incredibly fun, i hope blizz doesnt find a way to 'nerf' the fun before it comes to live. ive been on a break from wow for almost a year now and this absolutely will get me to come back.

[@1ViivviiX1]

All the doomers hating anything Blizzard is doing, even when they are trying to play it safe but are actually thinking outside the box for these crazy game adjustments in a temporary version of WoW for experimentation. I'd rather they do this in the long run, then straight up try to add new things permanently to the base game that ends up falling flat. I think this is the better method personally. If they do take all the feedback and stuff from these experiments to eventually update/revive the old content, I'm all for it. If it leads to more evergreen changes to deal with these temporary ones, then I'm down all the way.

[@1ViivviiX1]

Specifically I think it would be cool if they eventually made it to where raiding/doing these old xpacs in this way was a normal way to level as well in an evergreen way for the base game. I mean, what better way for people to get into raiding then being able to do it while leveling and on top of it, actually get to experience these old raids the way they were intended in a raid group compared to getting max lvl and just running them solo for farming mogs/mounts.

[@SimplyConeh]

@@1ViivviiX1 Hell, have one of these extra game modes every month, with transfers afterwards - plunderstorm could easily have 70 in stead of 40 levels so people who enjoy that can get a different, fresh, way to level.

[@1ViivviiX1]

@@SimplyConeh I personally don't want the Remixes and stuff to continue as just seasonal after they've atleast done the xpacs they are going to, as I'd rather they take those experiences and make them long term changes/revivals of the old xpacs. But overall the Plunderstorm being a seasonal thing I'm all for though. Just don't want too many back to back FOMO events (or limited time stuff in general for too long atleast with the Remixes and stuff) as it would become a bit hectic trying to not stress the limited time stuff while also wanting to play Retail (or any other version of WoW currently running too) and be able to not feel I'm gonna get behind on one thing or another. Other than that, what Blizz is doing atm, from all Interviews, press releases, videos on their KZbin, the level of transparency and actual planning they've never even attempted since WoWs conception, listening to player feedback, taking chances on actually improving the game for the long term, bringing back Chris Metzin and even more great things coming, truly has me excited for the future of WoW and is restoring my faith in Blizz. The way I view it, is if it's not something that you enjoy, then I don't see why someone does it. If people are "so done" with Blizz or think that the game is doomed and so done for, then why sit here and waste their time on it anymore, or try to bring the people down who actually wanna just enjoy the game. Not saying you are, but the doomers in the comments on KZbin and Whiners in Plunderstorm Queue lobby really have been trying to damper the experience of everyone with their negativity. But oh well, gonna enjoy what's to come, I feel it in my bones. Tangent over. If anyone reads this far into my ramblings, have a great day, you're awesome. And "May the winds be at your back, Traveler." 🙏🌟✨

[@teejmorrison]

I’m all for it, too. If they’re having fun it will likely trickle down.

[@1ViivviiX1]

@@teejmorrison Great way to look at it. The way I see it, is if you're expecting to enjoy something, you have to be willing to engage with it and atleast give it a shot. If you're already looking at it in the worst light, ofcourse your mind is going to be focusing on the negatives and not having a good time.

[@azbeth11]

It looks INCREDIBLE omg

[@Ranoake]

Do they have "You're gong to need a bigger bag" there?

[@Voffsing1]

gong Pepega

[@smokeythagamer8521]

Oh how i can not wait to turbo reminisce over the MOP days, truly was a great expansion and Im so excited to get all those transmogs i dont have for my rogue.

[@i_never_asked_for_an_alias]

Holy shit. Chris, are you having fun? It seems like it.

[@oldman1973]

It was a ton of fun I just hope they don't fuck it up and nerf the fun right out when it goes live.

[@Alpha_Sigma01]

OMG this is wow farming W's in such a fun way! I am so stoked for this when it goes live! I get chills when I think about my hunter with blink I mean srsly! This is cooking!

[@ironguardian1970]

mop was the only xpac I didn't play. so this is 100% new to me

[@MeidasBodhi]

This will be a fun way to do it.

[@Primal_Echo]

It was one of the best ones all around hands down.

[@primeoaktoast6596]

IT"S AVAILABLE TO F2P, YOU WONT NEED A SUB (edit: up to level 20)

[@benfuller3413]

do lfr for leveling have a weekly cooldown or can they be spammable?

[@battyxdarko]

I'm a BC baby but I always LOVED MoP & WoD. I am beyond ecstatic for this to go live.

[@godlygamer911]

Gross, WoD was terrible

[@lunlun0283]

@@godlygamer911 opinion

[@godlygamer911]

@@lunlun0283 no, it's a fact. Just like shadowlands was terrible.

[@sirnicholibraden86]

@@godlygamer911 Now looking back, WoD was pretty good.

[@lisekiilstofte5619]

@@godlygamer911 It's not. It's a different opinion. Which is allowed. We dont like the same things in life.

[@YosoHara]

Hey. This is full MoP, if i complete the full storry and aquire the Loremaster from here is it applyed to retail or nah?

[@rectalespionagesailboat4819]

Alright - this seems a bit more fun than I was expecting.

[@GeargutzMekshop]

I Really hope this becomes a continued thing. of having TImerunning expansions as seasons. as a Collector I love the idea of a hyper focused way to level up characters and collect mounts and Mog from singular expansions at a time without worrying about gold, or Raid locks.

[@dellkat9015]

As someone who collects mounts and Mog...Omg...I'm excited!

[@MeidasBodhi]

After doing SHA countless times I’m just buying that damn mount lol.

[@Primal_Echo]

SAME. Been after the mount since MoP and have killed it scores of times. I'm buying that mfker xD

[@Scarbuckks]

I’m so excited for Remix. I feel like OSRS Leagues paved the way for things like this. Goofy, fast paced limited time modes where the main goal is genuinely just to have fun and see how broken you can make your character.

[@giggabyte6413]

Im excited for this, though alot of my guild arnt which surprises me, there complaint is its more time limited FOMO stuff, but i dont mind it being a time limited thing and will be happy to jump into it, my worry is to get all the mogs i want, how much grind am i gonna need to put in within the time limit before it ends.

[@bonsai8493]

I cannot believe I'm saying this but I think I will be returning to retail via this remix fun event.

[@stevox1904]

cleared mythic siege of ogrimmar doing this event, was hella fun!

[@mstieler8480]

Man, this sounds fun as hell. I hope it goes live as it is!

[@leinart8815]

Does it have some interaction with Retail? Like the elegon mount, do you have it on retail then?

[@bloodmoontalon]

Yes, also after event finishes your remix character turns into ur normal character

[@MeidasBodhi]

Yes. Mounts and mog and achieves carry over.

[@the_Dehner]

As always @bellular fantastic video and production.

[@World_Oct2023]

Is there no weapon vendor for the weapons transmog ? I couldn’t find any weapon vendors.

[@playerone3690]

This does look pretty fun. I've earned a lot of the cheevos for MoP but I think this will give me a new opportunity to explore a different class/spec for multiple alts if the lvl'n is as fast as it's being portrayed. I wouldn't mind collecting a lot of xmogs that aren't available to me atm in live. Does look and interesting.

[@omgnerv]

and what if i already have the MoP reps from retail? does it convert to timerunning too or do I need to do it twice in this case?

[@SimplyConeh]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't - it's a new mode similarly to plunderstorm, where you kind of enter a different region just for that purpose and the achievements obviously don't exist on regular servers, since their rewards are bronze. Also, it would kind of ruin the point

[@thehusky0]

Does anyone knows whether we are able to get challenge transmogs like Warlock's "Betrayer" transmog?

[@ericlol99]

How much bronze do you get per hour? Or at least before the ptr close

[@FightinTheGorlax]

I haven't played wow in a few years at this point but I might come back for this

[@charlayned]

I am so excited for this, I loved Pandaria. Now, you said we could earn rep and it would count for all the alts I already have, right? What happens if my main has every rep maxed in Pandaria (yeah, all of them). Do I have to do all of them again? I now have a quandary as to what class/race I want to play...

[@danieltische1493]

can you buy the Gold Dungeon run sets & weapons?

[@Kaffetorsk]

Can u get the old Dungeon Challenge class sets during this?

[@rd9102]

If i level as say a hunter can i buy paladin/warrior sets too or priest sets? And are those sets then immediately available on my other toons?

[@Primal_Echo]

If I'm not mistaken, they're also adding the ability to get xmogs for everything, even if your class can't wear it.

[@harrydalgleish8464]

Not played retail in years but will be coming back to check this out looks good fun

[@frenchbassguy]

I hope this is available right up until TWW prepatch, cause there’s a LOT to collect.

[@Megoover]

They can't do retail authentic like vanilla. That's just not possible. But they still can make it fun. Just pure unhinged fun. And they are doing it!

[@TakaChan569]

They could but that would be a bore, i want the old xpac but done like this as this is what blizz needs to do for me.

[@murphybegood]

This is genuinely incredible, I am going to play the shit outta this

[@RockerBoy20045]

This looks awesome. Question though, when they announed MoP Remix, I was thinking of leveling up an alt through Pandaria to experience the story. From what I see here, that's not really the way to do it hehe. If I want to experience the story, should I just do Chromie time? If I do Chromie time now and play all of MoP, will it burn me out on the Remix?

[@AssassinGTM]

All remix characters get turned into regular characters at the end. If you're willing to wait to actually use the alt this could be a good way tbh

[@LuckyPed10]

I believe you can do the experience the story type of play in Remix, it's just there is many way of playing Remix, some are not story related, so you pick what you want, i will probably play many alts there and do different with each

[@MeidasBodhi]

No. It looks way different.

[@SNAKE19961]

Can't wait to get back to timeless Isles, spent so much time there during MoP 😆

[@cavaloteta]

Blizzard should enable dynamic fly on cloud serpents and do some race event on Mop remix

[@MeidasBodhi]

That’s coming I believe.

[@chisareafsaf]

can u get the challange mode tmog?

[@Gogmosis]

Very much looking forward to this. Curious... do we know what state these characters will be in when they are dropped into standard wow at the end? My guess is a basic set of gear and bags like you get from the gear update feature.

[@r350rt]

Do I understand that right? When I have the Achievement in Live, do I get it in Remix, too? Or is it just the other way around?

[@kiearawagner7901]

I think it's the other way around, where if you get them in Remix, you get them in Live. Because these achievements will become Feats of Strength achievements after the event ends in late August.

[@r350rt]

@@kiearawagner7901 Sure it will be that way. But still it makes me a bit sad :D

[@radenkovic2856]

Grinded on the ptr, got to 70, did the achievements for rings and trinkets. Then I blinked out of the shrine of two moons, fell under the earth and was captured in an eternal cycle of instant disconnects whenever I logged in. And I still had a full day to check out the raids 😢 Besides that, the experience was pretty good. Just need to tune some stuff a little bit

[@MrCarlton]

Timeless Isle is going to be so awesome

[@MeidasBodhi]

lol. Especially if it’s PvP like the old days. No options - no warmode - on a pvp server that’s just the way it is. We had epic PvP battles waiting for Hou’lon!!!

[@areks1547]

Is this a separate server you create a character or do I need a high level character in retail?

[@MeidasBodhi]

Separate. New remix character. Start at level 10.

[@MrLP3xp3rt]

Should I play the same class I play as a main on retail or should I change to level up alts?

[@SimplyConeh]

Pretty sure you can transfer the character after the event is done. So you should decide whether you want a new alt or try the superpowered version of your main.

[@MountainViews90]

@@SimplyConeh I might level the same class to get access to more transmog.

[@SimplyConeh]

@@MountainViews90 As far as I understand, you can buy transmog for other armor types for the bronze, but I don't know about drops

[@Mrpuddington]

is it ava for NA? i have the ptr 10.2.7 downloaded but nothing is there.

[@ZTomiboi]

As someone who has avoided that expansion immensly as I don't like the removed from warcraft theme.. this makes me actually want to check it out.

[@WadeAllen001]

My biggest worry for this new mode is that it will be over too quickly. It's basically how I've felt about all the new things WoW has done in recent years. I felt WoW Classic progressed too quickly for me, as did Classic BC and Classic WotLK and SoD seasons have been going too fast for me to keep up as well. I don't want WoW Remix to be over before I've completed half of it, but it probably will.

[@bobbybolivia6563]

Can you get challenger-mode gear set / weapon again?

[@daniellestrawderman2727]

Is there any indication how long this will be available? Like will you be able to play this mode moving forward or is it a specific set timeframe?

[@MrCpthawk]

Only last From May 16th until some time in August before xpac.

[@ausmac5287]

So achievements carry over - do they work in the opposite direction? If you earned an 'account wide' achievement in MoP, do you have it in the Remix?

[@forrrrestjohncave]

No.

[@Solaroid]

I'm incredibly excited to play this remix as someone that never played MoP.

[@ryandoherty7994]

not understanding your clickbait? i was convinced you were going to complain. i’m glad it was a positive video. remix looks fun.

[@EvanJung]

I wasn't planning to come back until War Within actually hit... but then i rememberd MoP is the one expansion I always regretted leaving 1/2 way through.... FUCK i may need to try this...

[@YeIsCorrect]

what if we're already exalted on retail? will we instantly get caches on remix?

[@Cbasszu]

How do i try it out? i downloaded 10.2.7 PTR and it says its incompatible lol o.O

[@andipajeroking]

How many days will the event be active? The one on release.

[@DrPluton]

I'm really looking forward to this. I still can't decide on a class to play.

[@Primal_Echo]

I played Frost DK back in MoP and switched to DH in legion. I'm 1,000,000% going to reroll Frost DK again for this. I'm so hyped.

[@DrPluton]

@@Primal_Echo I finally decided on a night elf mage. I like night elves, and I want those mage transmog sets.

[@wallywest2360]

Are we using new toons locked to this mode? Or can we level existing alts this way to 70?

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Hoping they can give us a Legion remix with the artifact powers re-enabled and artifact power progression being like 10000x faster or something, as well as 1000x more common legendary drops

[@MeidasBodhi]

Yes!!!!

[@BeardedScotsman86]

I was planning to come back to Wow for Cata Classic, then I heard about this which I am also interested in. Seems odd to release them both at the same time though.

[@Calthrasful]

Can you unlock Heritage armor when you play an allied race in this MoP - Remix?

[@jamesmartigo]

I also want to know this.

[@MrCpthawk]

@@jamesmartigo As long as you level the allied race instead of boosting it you should be able to.

[@MisterBlightside]

I'm just happy to have something to do before the expansion comes out... for that I am truly grateful!

[@TheHoboWithAShotgun]

so whats the benefeit os using the special character u can make over just using ur existing ones?

[@jasondeandulierjr.299]

this will be the most fun ive had in WoW since legion I think

[@ShepMvS]

As someone who literally has everything from panda, but no phoenix and sha of anger mount. I am so happy!

[@A7XvDisturbed]

Hope this gets done for WoD and Legion

[@Voffsing1]

WoD will need a ton of new stuff added to it if that's the case. It had almost 0 end-game content before Tanaan was released.

[@eddisarifovic513]

Something I would have wanted to see, visual remix, „revamp“. Idk, bring them up to the current state of wow. Would have been great, still look forward to playing this. It seems pretty fun.

[@Pontelad]

I really cant wait for this, i haven't touched classic, hardcore or SoD they don't interest me at all but this i cant wait for that feeling of being powerful again with the best gear being in reach of every body sounds so awesome to me.

[@greenliion6390]

Ya I am all for it. FOMO that comes around every year is fine with me. I think this is really good at least for now. I never played MOP and this gets me into it so Cheers!

[@doctorwiiu4619]

do cutscenes work? like story cutscenes?

[@virkon3208]

Dude's gonna just go "Sky is falling" untill all his hair is gone.

[@Sundribbles9246]

I'm curious if bronze/rep is going to be bound to a character or the account as a whole. If it's the entire account, this is gonna be awesome.

[@anthonyschwartz1084]

I am so ready for this. I used to even level cap my character and only farm gear, reps in MoP for fun, now that there is a whole mode for it....

[@carlcard7]

This looks great..will have to check it out!

[@hotlikesauce]

was able to get every Challenge Mode set when it was current, except Rogue. pretty hyped we get another chance & it will carry over to retail!!

[@brandenwatt]

no challenge mode sets

[@WhatIfTheories]

The broken power in MoP seems fun. BFA corruption power was super fun. You felt like a god. This seems like it.

[@MeidasBodhi]

Broken power, borrowed power whatever is FUN!!!! I hate it’s gone from main retail. Part of the old ways was getting as OP as possible. Personally love it.

[@Wowzombie15]

Buying mounts from this event does look very private server like just as you said, where the more custom unoriginal colored mounts are way cheaper than the already finished older mounts with new currency

[@zometthecomet]

FARM BRONZE

[@vizva7548]

Is it retail class and talents or MoP class and talents ?

[@chrisbenn]

Sounds super nice! But what carries over to retail wow? Only skins/transmug?