WoW Patch 3.3.5: The End of an Era (feat. AllThingsNerd)

[@AllThingsNerdChannel]

Thank you again my friend for the collab. Was so much fun :D and also congrats on 20k Subs your crushing it dude!

[@Nagria2112]

awsome part! one question i have for you: is there only the sun in ruby sanctum or are there 2 moons? (yes azeroth has 2 moons). and on a tangent - can you see other planets or other celestial objects like galaxies or the red star of argus? i´m working on a theory that azeroth lives in a fake skybox because you cant see other planet but other planets can see azeroth. (elunaria)

[@Shokisan1]

It was great tyvm

[@Digital-Scriptorium]

Wrath and everything before it was such a magical time for sure! It's why I have my channel to begin with so others can share in the era times.

[@Jediwarlock]

Nice! :D

[@IgorEngelen1974]

Always thought Cata was a huge mistake. They should have never touched classic, epic areas. I know it was partly done to enable flying but that wasn't a good enough reason to change areas where many people spent big amounts of their lives.

[@Jediwarlock]

I agree! I wish they had the ability (or made the decision) to include a phased version of the old areas, at the very least.

[@MangaManifaction]

Halion's phase 3 voice line: "I AM THE LIGHT AND THE DARKNESS" always plays in my head when I think of Ruby Sanctum

[@Jediwarlock]

It's iconic! XD

[@Pihtorich]

Now I look at Wrath with fondness but back in 2008-2010 I was playing on a TBC private server refusing to play Wrath claiming it took the game in the completely wrong direction. And everyone thought I was crazy. Well little did they know. Wrath was STILL good, but I wasn't wrong either lol

[@DeathComesQuick666]

Oof... you sat out the best expansion. 😅

[@TheNicopy]

Yeah you were very very wrong

[@Pihtorich]

@@DeathComesQuick666 nah I think TBC was the best. But Wrath despite its flaws wraps the game up and makes it complete

[@nakenmil]

@@Pihtorich This is heresy to some, but the lore and retcons in TBC was fucking crackpot. It wasn't so noticeable at the time, but in hindsight it's more obvious.

[@Pihtorich]

@@nakenmil can't think of any big ones aside from the draenei thing

[@x9Raven6x]

great video! nice to see u both collaborate

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you! ATN is a great dude :D

[@Garouwerks]

Great job, and I enjoyed the team up.

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks! :)

[@77chance]

How am I not subbed to AllThingsNerd? That changes right now! Fun video

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@onethreeify]

thank you very much! totally agree that classic up to and including wrath is where it's at. its difficult to explain, but that 6 year journey (or 3-4 year journey on era realms) is the most amazing experience you can have in all of gaming

[@Jediwarlock]

You're very welcome! It's a special little trilogy, and even though TBC and Wrath made "changes" to some of the gameplay the entire world was still intact which was the most important part to me :)

[@Donnirononon]

Back in the days there were these "admin / building" private servers. You would go on it and be able to place game objects via admin commands. People used it to build cities and all sorts of stuff in those empty areas of the map, which were way more before Cataclysm. Basically, every mountain at the zone borders had some of that empty, flat area on top or between - which would be used as building space by the players.

[@Jediwarlock]

That's super cool! :D

[@marley551]

I actually remember that 😂

[@ch.kv.]

Really interesting, enjoyed the out of bounds exploration section!

[@Jediwarlock]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@Sleepy.Time.]

Cata has been such a let down after Wraith, ive gone from playing 3-4 hours a day to now ive not logged in for about a month.

[@josephteller9715]

Well yeah because Cata was and is CRAP. Badly thought out and Badly implemented.

[@Sleepy.Time.]

@@josephteller9715 Cata was when Activision took more control over Blizz and it really shows

[@DeathComesQuick666]

Cataclysm is where they listened to all the wrong opinions. People complained about the time-sink required in the game because the people who were 10-16 in vanilla were now adults with jobs and children. To try and retain them they made all aspects more accessible and casual... but it came in the form of raidfinder. To best describe the experience of raidfinder at the time; i qued up as heals/dps as a shadow priest with no healing gear. (i did have a disc spec to switch to) When i got in the raid 1 of the healers left at the very start, one was afk at the entrance, and one of them was wearing only 3 pieces of gear (green rarity). A resto druid and I were the only healers for the raid and it never even came close to a wipe. There was no one even hitting the gigantic green button mechanics, people standing in fire tunnelvisioning their dps meter, and it was a complete and total success. To say that it was casual is more than an understatement.

[@Jediwarlock]

True!

[@pie4fooable]

love your vids jedi - keep up the great work :)

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you! :)

[@TrickyThe0ne]

"This will be your last mortal" Proceeds to most certainly be absolutely no where near our last anything.

[@Jediwarlock]

"This will be your... uh, something in the middle of your journey." XD

[@TheRealCeeJai]

Rejoice! For this is not only the end of one era, but the beginning of another.

[@Jediwarlock]

Of course! :)

[@Halibel764]

I remember watching videos from KZbin channels that are now inactive : Strangletusk, Khamùl, TheWizardTrokair (he has great musical taste) and another one I forgot the name. It used to be for me part of what WoW community has to offer : with short machinamas, custom songs (Cranius

[@Jediwarlock]

Very interesting points, thank you! :) Crazy to think what an underground zone could have been like back in 2008!

[@Wafflekatpwn]

I like to think were pocket dimensions given to the dragons by the titen constructs to be a home away from home, Like a valdrakken tower away from home, and i think with time as the dragons settled places that reminded them of their actual home and settled on the actual 4 corners of the known world, and as generations went by, younger whelps only heard of the dragon isles,

[@Jediwarlock]

Interesting idea!! I like that :)

[@grafspe807]

When Ruby Sanctum came out my server was still pretty strong for raiding and had some pretty good groups roll in there As for the real ID deal yea i remember that to and ppl were freaking out i had never saw the forums blow up like that

[@Jediwarlock]

That's good to hear the population was still pretty high even after the end of ICC. :)

[@The_10th_Man]

They should try real ID now that the only players left are blizzard activision Microsoft sycophant bootlickers.

[@Silly_Illidan]

Wish i knew about the stinky potions during legion... Nightmare dgs/raids: red and black Legion dg/raids: green

[@Jediwarlock]

Yeah XD

[@6enduro331]

yes

[@Jediwarlock]

yes

[@Dr.SwanPHD_MD_Esquire_the3rd]

Cataclysm killed so many things in classic. Mostly the whole server of Ashkandi and Lvl 19 twink pvp. RIP

[@Jediwarlock]

So true :'(

[@jiko2247]

3.3.5 is the only wow I ever played from a private server.

[@Jediwarlock]

Same here! :D

[@jiko2247]

@@Jediwarlock I don't have the same perspective as og players but godammit if playing with a bunch of nerds who reset every year doesnt feel like the true wow experience

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Exploration is no longer as good as it used to be because of flying. And is not realy Blizzard's fault. Initialy the way flying woked, you had to reach max level before you could fly. Yet, even then, when questing, you'd be more time in the ground then flying. Also in TBC dailies were done in the isle of Quel'Danas where there is no flying... During Wotlk, flying helped to reach the high places but still, you'd spend more time in the ground... Later, Blizzard tried to take flying away, in WoD, and go back to the exploration era, which imo was a good idea... we know the zones of vanilla better,. not ust because they are the oldest, but because we spent so much time actualy exploring them!... But people whinned till they got flying back in WoD, and expansion that was planned for flying to not be needed, and to be explored, with jumping challenges that were fun but were rended pointless once flying got introduced... a real shame! I got lots of the treasures and achievements BEFORE flying.. and i'm very happy i did!. Nowadays, you spend more time flying from A to B then questing, and that is the problem!

[@Jediwarlock]

You make some good points!!

[@mcsmash4905]

i for one dont mind the changes that cata brought to the world and the game itself

[@Jediwarlock]

That's fair! It was definitely a new and exciting experience :)

[@pie4fooable]

first

[@Jediwarlock]

Nice!

[@Gogsi90]

i usualy dont comment but Nathan talks ALOT, show dont tell this is you tube we are watching u, just do it dont give us all that fluff, took him ~4min to jump like 7-8times, to finnaly show us empty space,while nice to see it,its meh tbh like most oob stuff its empty and unpolished

[@Jediwarlock]

I appreciate the feedback. I wanted to try something different with this one and introduce another WoW creator but I can see it's not a direction for everyone. I'll keep this in mind for future vids and my future stuff will definitely be more of my typical style of narration. :)

[@Gogsi90]

@@Jediwarlock I dont mean to bash u fellas u did great even uploading this, im just hoping to point out something everyone feel but 99% wont say, i mean i get why it is how it is,but i t hink there is room for impovement, sry for broken eng, wish u both all the luck!

[@eyevou]

Recorded inside a bathroom stall. 😂

[@ishura19]

Oh good, it's not my headphones starting to die then!

[@eyevou]

@@ishura19 Nope, Jedi has some muffled audio going on in this one.

[@Jediwarlock]

Yeah my mic was acting up on this one unfortunately... but I fixed it and it should be good to go! :D

[@eyevou]

@@Jediwarlock Can't wait for the next WoW Rocks or whatever it is you do these days (lore or something idk). 🗿

[@General12th]

I feel like this channel is supposed to be a safe space for people who love the classic world and hate everything that came afterword, so I won't say anything.

[@Jediwarlock]

I can see this isn't a direction for everybody and I appreciate the feedback. :) I wanted to mix things up for this one, but rest assured I'll take all the comments into consideration and I'll definitely stay away from Retail stuff in the future. :)

[@General12th]

@@Jediwarlock I love most of the lore that came after Wrath. But looking through some of the comments, it seems like a lot of people don't.

[@ThisIsGoogle]

Wow ended at Burning crusade. Wotlk is not WoW.

[@Jediwarlock]

That's fair! I know a lot of people are wishing for TBC era servers because that was their favorite ending of WoW. :)

[@Rtonyan]

Mixing your well scripted, researched style with a more off the cuff live showcase of generic out of bounds terrain seems like a weird choice, hamstringing both your and ATN's styles. This really feels like 2 videos with no cohesion put into the same timeline :/

[@Jediwarlock]

Hey, I appreciate the feedback! I wanted to try something different with this one and introduce another WoW creator but I can see it's not a direction for everyone. I'll keep this in mind for future vids. :)

[@josephteller9715]

Lost me on this one... Sorry Jedi but using a Demonhunter to go out of bounds etc. is of zero interest to me. Just Say No to Retail has to be the rule at this point.

[@rockhopper01]

Not all about you.

[@robbartnik2940]

saying no to retail is of zero interest to me

[@Jediwarlock]

Hey, that's fair! I appreciate the feedback. I wanted to try something different with this one and introduce another WoW creator but I can see it's not a direction for everyone. I'll keep this in mind for future vids. :)