WoW Player Tries Guild Wars 2 For The First Time in 2024!

[@MetaGoblin]

Join the adventure in Guild Wars 2! Click the link to start your epic journey today and experience the thrill of dynamic combat, expansive worlds, and endless possibilities. Your legend awaits! wehy.pe/y/7/MetaGoblin

[@NikeGipple]

GW2 is perfect for those who have other responsibilities or other video games to play because it allows you to choose your goal and pursue it. If that is not respecting your time I don't know what could be more. Also, GW2 does not destroy your progress when you leave the game. What you have achieved is there waiting for you.

[@philipgant2820]

Gw2 overall is the best mmo in terms of combat and exploration

[@xmoxipavonispetinus8539]

True

[@williamlaprarie3007]

@@philipgant2820 nah, it has great story mode that's it, the rest is total garbage.

[@francofornio3955]

@@williamlaprarie3007 but what game did you play?

[@Nebarus]

WoW and GW2 are my two go to MMO's. GW2's open world is amazing...

[@williamlaprarie3007]

@@Nebarus lmao gw2 is not open world it has zones just like everquest archeage was open world.

[@SokiorexReal]

@@williamlaprarie3007ofc it is Open World ?

[@williamlaprarie3007]

@SokiorexReal open world doesn't zone from one zone to another zone. "Open world" means it's all open and areas are not locked or gated. Archeage was open world GW2 is NOT.

[@melaniahamuga]

​@williamlaprarie3007 Generally when ppl talk about open world they're referring to the pve exploration aspect of the game, how detailed and full of content the maps are. But yes technically, the maps in gw2 are separated by loading screens. With the scale of the events in the game you wouldn't be able to keep all the map zones connected.

[@williamlaprarie3007]

@melaniahamuga no it hasn't, it always has meant what I stated.

[@Akeche]

7:30 I'm sure you figured it out by now, but they aren't really "battlegrounds" exactly. They are something WoW just doesn't have, a constant ever-shifting three-sided war where each individual camp and keep on the map is something you can potentially fight over. World vs World is a concept coming from Dark Age of Camelot, it was carried into Warhammer Online which was made by the same company as DAoC and eventually the concept came to Guild Wars 2 and Elder Scrolls Online. There is however PvP that is more like battlegrounds. Small, instanced objective based maps that you can get through quickly.

[@BrantMarcksson]

There's no reason to 'catch up' in GW2. Just relax and enjoy the ride. Those LV80 boosts are a curse.

[@williamlaprarie3007]

I have no use for it, the level down system nerfs your character so bad that actual level is better lmao

[@matheuskg123]

@@williamlaprarie3007 can you please explain this further?

[@jgsource552]

Lvl 80 boosts are good for classes where their core class is complete trash to use compared to their elite specs

[@squirebalo9357]

I will be holding onto my lvl boost for probably a good while. If I later choose to want to play with ppl on other servers, I might use it, to boost a class, that I already played/leveled. Or at least, that is my plan for it atm. :D

[@rayamatsoleman3985]

I use them to unlock abilities for my normal characters like weapons and gliding

[@Dekakura23]

3:40 Transformation skills are not warrior skills but Norn race skills. Norn are kind of hunters that believe into spirits(something like native american indians in our world) and can transfer into them for short time. Every race have few racial skills, most of them are just usless or with way too long cooldowns.

[@luca7675]

Some of them are pretty good, specially the norn ones. But they arn't meta relevant.

[@Master10k2]

That's the problem with using the level boost on your 1st character. You won't be able to naturally learn your class.

[@luca7675]

@@Master10k2 tbf for most classes elite specs change the gameplay to an extend where you might as well learn the class from scratch...

[@cambeul]

there was a time for open world Thief the Meta was to play Sylvari because the Racial Elite was better than any Thief Elite at the time 😂

[@abwesend182]

Yeah and at release Norn was so overpowered. You could solo any grp content :D they really needed the nerf, but went a bit too hard

[@JP-12464]

i stopped playing WoW 1 year ago. i love GW2!

[@Akeche]

To the point at the end. The big reason for this is because "endgame" hasn't really changed too much in GW2. In WoW every patch, let alone every expansion means all the old content becomes useless for progressing your character. But in GW2 it's all the same level, and for the most part gear remains the same no matter what content you're doing. I know for some WoW players they'll hate that, and might wonder what the point is. To this I would say... what's the point of grinding out your gear in WoW, only for it to be obsolete in 3 months? Also, I hope you'll consider playing into Janthir Wilds itself a bit deeper to unlock the housing and make a video on that! Truly you've barely scratched the surface of the game. Elite Specializations, the mounts (oh boy the mounts!) and all the various Mastery tracks to unlock and invest into (which is an account wide thing!).

[@MrVorech]

Thing Is gw2 at this point Is like playing 1 huge WoW xpac but ull basically never gonna get better gear, just gear up, kill all the raids on CMs And if u Still wont like IT fine just move on.. but i bet most wow players didnt even do this

[@Akeche]

@@MrVorech See, yeah. For someone very competitive minded who only cares about raids and hard dungeons. Your options are a bit more limited. Fractals definitely require some effort, raids can indeed be challenging. But at the end of the day GW2 is a game that fits what the majority of the WoW player base is and/or wants. More casual content that can be done without a strict structure. On the flip side, GW2 PvP blows WoWs out of the water.

[@wiefdiwbofdbw]

WoW system to me is similar to seasons in ARPG's. having to "restart" again, grow your character powerful again, I just like it a lot more. I enjoy GW2 overall but the lack of vertical progression kills the long time fun. It's nice quick&easy play but that's it. I think GW2 is nice and fills a good niche

[@dhamongrimwulfe5401]

I canceled my wow sun today and landed in GW2 to try. Pretty awesome to see you have an upload on it. 💪

[@kizzatta]

GW2 is the goat

[@catedoge3206]

just got back to gw2. glad i did. joined a clan or two. it's now hella fun!

[@Krieghandt]

The hardest thing for WoW players to learn in GW2 is " Don't level up" If you focus on leveling, you'll regret it. And EVERYthing gives XP. pick flowers? XP. revive an NPC? XP. Crafting? XP. Walking around the world doing random stuff? XP. Another piece of advice. Every zone has a vendor with weapons and armor at the zone's level. If you have out leveled the zone, buy the white armor. You will still be slightly OP, but the content will be fun. Even downscaled, your high end armor will completely OP the zone.

[@matheuskg123]

why not level up?

[@Krieghandt]

@@matheuskg123 My point, is you level up almost automatically, so ignore the leveling process, and just have fun.

[@mmogemu02]

​@@matheuskg123 this MMO kind of different from others. The most basic thing in MMO is leveling. You dont even need to tell by the game or other player to do leveling, its common sense. But, in this game you need to take your time. Its not wrong tho, for speedrun max level (I do sometimes for new character). But, even if you max level and go to low level MAPS, your character would be downleveled it by the game system. I dont really good for explaining, but just take your time and enjoy the game for not feel FOMO and ends up speedrun level or even using max level boost (pls, dont use it.. most of players agree with it).

[@cobra7282]

@@mmogemu02 Started playing about a week ago and am level 30. Don't know that I have been in a zone where I wasn't scaled down since maybe level 8 or so. You level is cool for certain milestones such as the first dungeon unlocking at 30.

[@Terixofevermore]

If you didn’t figure it out. By now those transformations are from your race, not your class.

[@xezzee]

a short version Personally I think GW2's biggest flaw is its lack of guidance and tutorial. How to fix would require an overhaul of core content. rant: When you start the game the core gameplay is so easy you don't have to learn the mechanics around the game. This leads in to problems when you enter Expansions, PvP, WvW and half of end game content at max level. Also at any point at the game there is no other guidance than "Do the Story" and that is all which is problem. Here are the ways I would fix the problem: 1. Add a new button on tope left corner called "Help&Guidance" when clicked opens up ingame Wiki which is shorted by content you can do. WvW / PvP / PvE /Open World 2. Add a new tutorial after the starting Story which explains the mechanics. 3. Add a new Guidance pop up when you reach max level explaining what you can do. 4. Add "Quick Build" option for content you choose to take part in. To explain: 1. The button Help&Guide basically explains new players what you can do. If you click PvE you are shown Raids/Strikes/Fractals/Dungeons and if you click Open World you are shown Jumping Puzzles/Achievements/Story/Masteries/Crafting/Trading Post/Atls/Gold/Gems&Cosmetics/Racing/Timetrials/Diving ... Under each section you find relative information about the subject. Jumping Puzzles would explain that each zone has a hidden Jumping Puzzle if not more. Some of them have restrictions like no gliding or mounts. Finishing them gives rewards chest, can be daily objective and completes an achievement. Some jumping puzzles even have Vendors after the puzzle. (Lion's Arch) 2. As level 2 you enter a new Azura labroratorio experience of "multiverse theory" where they have managed to make simulation of alternative realities which allows them to alter the reality itself in a way you can take control of your alternative versions for short moments. This can be used as the story how you can be max level with end game gear while actually being level 2! Then you are boosted to max level and given one simple but tough enemy. Of course you will do almost no damage so you get pop up explaining the importance of build with detale while the NPC is explainig it verbally. When you click "OK" the NPC will continue explaining but states here "Ok, I'm now gonna give you POWER build which should allow you to handle that enemy" and so on. Then they say "Oh... something seems wrong" and you get tougher enemy which is directly linked to explaining boons. You take damage and just as you go downstate they fix it! Now they explain that if you had boons protection and regeneration you would have been just fine and with 25might, fury, alacrity and quickness you could have even killed the enemy .... Then they decided to give those boons to you from Bot that looks like a totem and shares these six boons with 30s duration. Now you finish the target. We explained importance of builds and boons. Now let's explain Conditions. An enemy appears that is immune to power damage! Which means they give you Condi Builds and ask you to fill it with Conditions. Then oh nooo a Condi immune enemy joins the fight so they swap your build to Celestial which does both power and condi damge. You notice it is bit slower to kill 😁 and then comes enemy that must be CCed until it take damage. Requiring the players to use CC. After all this they are asked to choose between three builds "Power/Condi/Celestial" and they get items that scale from level 1 to level 79 and can be equiped to any chracter. Account bound....... 3. When you finish Tutorial you get Popup tutorial that you can at any time go "builds" section and choose "open world condi/power/celestial build" which are meant to bee noob friendly builds. When you reach max level you get Popup tutorial explaining all things you can do in the game where at the top is most popular activities and lower you go less popular they become. First is PvP then WvW followed by PvE and last Open World 😁 You can "Track" one of these like Dungeons and it will give you "story like quest marker" to complete all dungeon stories. You get two locations to enter the dungeon. Open World Location and the new Lion's Arch location 😁 4. Each Profession should have one quick build for all game modes which are Leveling / PvP / WvW/ Raids&Strikes / Fractals&Dungeons / Open World & Story. For examples giving players Full Vipers Condi Mechanist using Flamethrower Turret with Spear instead of Grenade Kit requires the players to press 325 +90 to do amazing damage in Raids&Strikes while Fractals/Dungeons could have Full Berserker Power Mechanist using Rocket Turret with Hammer instead of Grenade Kit requires the player to press 52 +0 to do great damage.

[@MrJueKa]

In GW2 you can help each other how and when you want without worrying about stealing other players loot, collectibles, achievments or rewards; everyone always gets what`s intended or possible for them.

[@rashid2898]

Now try guild wars 1 your endgame starts at level 1

[@EB-bl6cc]

guild wars 1 > guild wars 2 and this is the gaming hill I will die on

[@TheFuchao]

If you think your start was cinematic, just wait till you see the end of path of fire. And i mean the end of the dragon. I never have seen such a crazy bossfight/cinematic in an mmorpg. The grind for the skyscale killed me, though... Im still playing wow with my years old social guild and i do love it. But secretly i strongly believe gw2 is the best mmorpg by far

[@TheExyle]

The skyscale is drastically easier to attain now with the new expansion

[@TheFuchao]

@@TheExyle thank you! I will look into it. Was about to make the saddle, i think

[@dhars_official]

GW2 is great. I quit wow for this game after playing wow for 14 years. I was a top raider, pvper, got realm 1st titles, you name it... At some point you just get bored of focusing on either PvE or PvP in wow as your main source of fun content. GW2 brings back all of these different elements into an MMO and makes the whole experience fun.

[@Gramuza7]

My woman and I found this game last week, its so much fun.

[@Lazarus_ReSpawn]

I wish they ban that level boost for new players already. This isn't a game where "the fun starts when you reach max lvl". This isn't a standard MMO and it *will* overwhelm you if you try to shortcut to "endgame", with a huge chance of repelling you instead once you realize you have no clue what to do after you're suddenly bombarded with thousand options.

[@kaelinvictus6039]

ANet cannot remove the level boost because the pre-conceived notions of players coming from other games strongly advises them to rush to endgame. Unless that mentality changes, removing the option to boost will most likely turn people off even before they learn that early game exploration is fun in GW2.

[@zorbius6397]

I don't think it's bad to have that level 80 boost either, no one forces you to use it. I actually have two unused ones and a bunch of xp books. But the other day, I got tired of my human necro, deleted it and just used the instant to change race. Anyway, the leveling is very fast and for a new player I recommend it, but in this and all mmos, the leveling makes you learn how your character works. The instant leveling makes that difficult if you don't know the class.

[@cobra7282]

@@zorbius6397 Bought a deluxe version a while back and am finally starting to really get into the game. Haven't touched the level boosts, but I will have them later on for alts.

[@fordie8music584]

The thing about this game is you can play however you want. That means even boosting if you want.

[@Oscarizxc]

Can't wait to see you unlock Elite Specialisations. It will offer a different playstyle. :D For Warriors, you can go down 3 routes and with each route, you'll have access to 1. Power DPS - direct damage playstyle 2. Condi DPS - damage over time playstyle, 3. Boon DPS - either Power or Condi DPS with buffing capabilities 4. Boon Healer - healers with buffing capabilities Tanks are usually Healers with higher toughness (armor), used in specific end-game encounters like Raids. For PvP and WvW (world versus world), it's a whole different ball game. XD

[@joshuahng1]

Gw2 best mounts n housing in mmorpg

[@Teppic11]

I've been recommending this to people while waiting for Echoes of Angmar. Aside from GW2 being a great game, I really like the total lack of predatory monetisation.

[@OKDC]

Welcome. Hope you keep playing.

[@Beriorn]

At first I wondered what he meant when he talked about the druid-like shapeshifting, the druid is an entirely different spec. But then I realized he was playing a Norn.

[@blackalphadragon96]

You need to unlock elit specs!!! As a warrior you get Berserker Spellbreaker Bladesworn Then your warrior wont feel like a druid anymore :D

[@xezzee]

which leads to the GW2's flaw... they don't explain anything. There is no tutorial. There is no guidance. You are required to "figure it out" and it is common knowledge that is the worst thing you can do to retain players in your game 😆 There should be two tutorials. Level 2 and level 80 both for different reasons. There also should be "Help&Guidance" like well shorted ingame wiki. Level 2 tutorial should teach players about Power, Conditions, CC, Boons and Conditions. -Have them fight against three elite enemeis. One is immunte to Condi damage, second is immunte to Power damage and third must be CCed before it takes damage. -Also introduce new totem like bot that gives you six boons for 30seconds. Regeneration, Protection, 25Might, Fury, Alacrity and Quickness. -Now spread all three types of these elite enemeis and these totems across all content in the game both Core and Expansions. Make the core gameplay bit more challenging. Level 80 tutorial should teach you about Builds and What you can do. -Builds. Gear, Weapons, Traits and Elite Specs. -What to do? PvE (Raids/Strikes/Fractals/Dungeons/DragonResponseMissions) / PvP / WvW/ Open World (Jumping Puzzles/Gold Farming/Story/Achievements/Masteries/Cosmetics/Gems/Racing/Time trials/World Bosses/Events/Crafting) But naah, instead if you want to get in to GW2 you must leave GW2 to google what you can do in GW2 and how to do it better.

[@cobra7282]

@@xezzee Honestly, I think this is more of a personal preference thing. I think it's fun to learn at your own pace everything that is in the game. I rather enjoy figuring it out on my own than having the game go out of it's way to tell me what I need to do next. FFXIV is another game that gives you a lot of space to figure things out as well. In a way it will make me nostalgic for the time that I learned it for the first time. I always find myself annoyed by tutorials, even the UI ones as I would personally like to just explore it myself.

[@coffEEbot12]

Also, weapon skills change with your class. Mesmer great sword is a giant wand for ranged spells, revenant hammers is a ranged weapon that throws ghost hammers at people. The Bladesworn warrior learns how to use a pistol, but it's a melee weapon, lol.

[@melinnamba]

In case you haven't noticed it yet: your weapon skills are also kinda class skills. Each class uses the same weapon in very different ways. A warrior picks up a great sword and sees, well, a great sword. A necromancer sees a meele range magical conduit. And a Mesmer sees a long range staff type weapon. And on the flip side if you hand a staff to a thief, they will inflict blunt force trauma, no magic needed. The actual profession skills however, are the skills on the left above your weapon skills. They add a class specific mechanic, that really makes each classes playstyle feel unique and elite specializations offer even more variety.

[@dmoney_pimpslap]

This dude just said Issomir was "challenging." I'm scared for the rest of the video.

[@Avenrise]

I think many have the wrong idea when thinking about GW2, thinking this is the same game from 12 years ago but as someone that played it back then, took a 5 year break then came back I can comfortably say it's night and day. Is the earlier content perfect? God no, theyve not touched dungeons in a decade and the core story is a bit pants but they've built upon a solid foundation and the content they're currently putting out is, minus a few blips here and there, brilliant and worthy of a 2024 MMO. Another is the misconception that because there's no treadmill that there's nothing to do. Sure you need to set your own personal goals but there's a ton of things to go after and if nothing is feeling right one month just go away for a bit. No sub, cheap expacs, just log in and do what you want whenever you want. Play alongside WoW if you wish, it's a game that respects your time but also rewards you for it. Just one thing to note- We had a decade long 'Dragon Saga' storyline that ended with the End of Dragons expac. Secrets of the Obscure was the start of promised yearly smaller expacs with self-contained stories but ANET seem to have changed their mind and Janthir Wilds loosely follows on from the start of the SotO story. Just bare that in mind, a few streamers jumping straight into JW had no clue who the characters were during the Alliance meeting scenes :) Glad you're enjoying GW2, it's a game I've adored for a long time.

[@victorsv1983]

I love GW2 and WoW. The combat in GW2 is amazing and PVP is very addictive. WoW has better endgame PVE.

[@Contmotore]

GW2 is great! I'm actually amazed you haven't played it before.

[@Crimson_Reed]

Welcome to gw2

[@jesusiscoming9713]

im just downloading gw2 for the first time

[@sidyaking]

Charlie, I beg you - try to find a way to play Warhammer age of reckonning. I think the game itself is dead, but there are some private servers. The PVE aspect of it is almost non existant, but they did PVP so well! Also some class mechanics are crazy fun

[@eZgr]

nice presentation of the game it would be cool to show PVP as well not only WvW

[@MisterNo1111]

I agree 💯%❣️❣️❣️ Naturally its just a game, but for gaming and fantassy lovers i find it beautiful. To keep it new and interesting i play super casualy and have longer times of not playing it due my lifestyle. And onlly people and comunity can meik it last. I just love GW 2 comunity, Twich, KZbin... Thanx for the video🐬🐣🐬

[@TheExyle]

Welcome to GW2!!!

[@SauceAppleEater_2885]

Metagoblin DEEZ NUTS, GOTTEM That aside, yeah gw2 is such a great experience once you come out of the worlo gulag

[@johnnywick1110]

ESOs and GW2s biggest downfall is weapon swap. Most players don't want to do that. Like I want to go all in with dual daggers and not switch between that and idk , a lamp and a torch. Otherwise, the game is fun.

[@darkzim3872]

unless you want a meta build you don't have to weapon swap just do your own thing

[@MrT24-c4e]

This is more like elder scrolls online than it is wow classic. I enjoy the simplicity of Wow classic.

[@Chicccco]

I get the ick from people that compare GW2 to ESO as if GW2 copied from ESO. GW2 came out first, so if anything, ESO is emulating what GW2 has, even the music.

[@MrT24-c4e]

@@Chicccco I never said GW2 copied ESO

[@MightiestBeard]

Seen a decent amount of GW2 content, and have even played a bit, but my WoW-addled brain just doesn't grasp the progression and end game...

[@127ibenedict]

I'm a bit late sorry. But I have always had a feeling you would really enjoy this game.

[@wiefdiwbofdbw]

idk about this man, to really unlock gameplay/class you need your elite spec which takes forever.

[@abwesend182]

I would absolutly not recommend the using the lvl 80 boost for a fresh player. The base game/personal story questline is too awesome to skip.

[@incogdogye]

you still playing TBC?

[@LudvikKoutnyArt]

Doesn't YT require you to disclose sponsored content?

[@denikehi4579]

hOLLY shit i'm accidentally in the video lmao

[@xmoxipavonispetinus8539]

Gw 2 was anazing video game

[@eucharistenjoyer]

The only thing missing in GW2, or at least in the main game and some of the expansions, is actual good writing. It's so boring, so so boring. All the rest is amazing. I mean, I've stopped playing WoW almost 10 years ago and I can still recall some of its famous questlines and even characters. On GW2 I can't even remember most of the names of the leaders of the playable race after playing for months. Even though there are nice dynamic quest mechanics, it all feels generic.

[@RatnoonTV]

"Guild Wars 2 is a game where PvP is given the attention it deserves" This couldn't be further from the truth unfortunately. PvP is the most neglected game mode in this entire game, and most of the player base agree that PvP is considered "dead", like truly dead. Although WvW is in a pretty good state and recovering I would say!

[@coffEEbot12]

There's a new game mode being developed for it and we got to test it last week.

[@Julliant]

They weren't referring to "PvP" as in the gw2 game mode, but the concept of PvP. He's literally having WvW (which is a PvP mode) in the video as he talks about this

[@williamlaprarie3007]

@@RatnoonTV pvp always dies when combined with grinding games. Always has always will.

[@StickofTrue]

Without GW2 there would be no "Dragonflight". Every new Feature in "The War Within" has existed in GW2 for over 10+ Years! Blizzard even copies the Story ^^ To Start with, the port of Dalaran, even the whispering is from the "Secret of the Obscure!! 10 minutes later you wake up on the Beach. exactly the same thing happens at the beginning of "End Of Dragons" Even Story-Characters are structured very similarly and WoW now has "Gorrik" Even the mechanics of the Heart are full gameplay in GW2 and a useful tool that Blizzard has not managed! For over 15 Years the Company with 8000 Developers has not managed to do more than 300 Developers from Arena Net! You pay Money for WoW that just wants to Rip you off.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

I'd say they are copying FF14 as well.

[@harrisonlee1]

I dont get why people dont try guild wars 2

[@ervinfejes9942]

I played wow for more than 15 years and now im playing gw2 for 2+ years. I think GW2 is better than wow in many ways and every future MMOs have to learn from GW2s world/explore design. Gw2 is respect ppls time compered to wow. But GW2 also have some problems. I think the combat/boon system is not the best. I like the open world solo content but in group content zerging is everything. I think the bigest problem for me is the short randge boon system, and the fact that this game is full malee combat oriented. There are some randged weapons but in endgame most of them is weak and useless. PvP balance also have some problems, but its a common MMO thing.

[@joshuahng1]

Gw2 ❤️👏🔥👍💪💪

[@OldGYouTube]

The start of your video about why should players have to spend hours upon hours playing before beable to really enojy the games is excatly why I have to cheat to get there quick... I dont have hours upon hours to grind anymore. So, little cheating helps lol

[@damien4260]

how much were you paid for this Ad?

[@viamdolor9226]

I recommend trying out Guild Wars 1, it's much more complex and interesting than GW2 ever was.

[@eternalvigilance5697]

It's not really a MMO though. It is a lobby game.

[@fardinkarimi4706]

ایرانی پلیر هست؟

[@sooshi0204]

w

[@AparatorulPoporului]

Just look how bad character moves, the trash gw2 and the anet devs not fixed this trash after one decade, and they ask themself why their game is not played and is not popular, their combat and movement is trash, more the skill system wich is mediocre

[@theperfectbeing]

Dude I don't understand the hype people have for GW2 pvp, it's terrible. Abilities are not responsive, there's delay in damage calculations, CC has no diminishing returns, there's no damage recap and allowing all classes to heal in some way often completely breaks builds. Also there's way too many similar condition icons to even be able to pay attention to what is on you. For me the lack of abilities and CD time left far too much downtime and lack of ability to respond to most situations, especially with knockdowns/stuns interrupting things and getting them stuck on CD. The game completely lacks the ability to effectively kite anything as a ranged class, so you just have to boon tank a lot of fights.

[@winifix]

You frogot the esssential "I was sponsored" logo on this video. First zone "boss" is a joke afk kill, never used my heal once

[@MetaGoblin]

It's clearly stated.

[@biyaogw2]

While GW2 is a fun experience, some thing I absolutely hate about the game is this: You can pump dps/support the everliving fuck out of a fight with a boon support class or you can just be a leech that taps 1 every once in a while. In the end one player that carried has carpal tunnel and for his efforts the leech got the same reward ingame. I think that is such a toxic thing that should not exists in the game, because it actually punishes you for getting really good in the game. Why bother when tapping 1 in fights and dying every 5 secs is sometimes more than enough and actually get you the same reward. It's messed up.

[@zorbius6397]

For fun? I enjoy being useful in the fight. Do you enjoy being a leech...? Good for you, I don't mind. Most players are active in that aspect. There is no toxicity here.

[@biyaogw2]

@@zorbius6397 ??? You agree with me that leeches are terrible lol. Which is exactly what I despise that being a leech is rewarded as much as being useful ingame. I am talking about the players that barely hit 5k dps while on a dps spec.

[@programmingwithchatti4063]

@@biyaogw2 depends on what mode you re playing if its an open world thing it doesnt really matter if it's a high tier fractal cm / raid / strike you d be immediatly singled out

[@biyaogw2]

Correct.

[@cobra7282]

You are walking on a knifes edge with this one IMO. If you are in a formed group than your group as a whole should not allow CLEAR leeching. I emphasize clear because some people may very well be trying hard and just aren't terribly good at their class. If you go too far in this direction you end in a spot where you start being very strict on damage output and not inviting or kicking people that don't meet a likely growing damage threshold.

[@mullenio4200]

First. Kind of. 😁

[@Hydr312]

For me the combat was just boring af and the look was also a turn off for me.

[@StrongArmEntertainment]

This shit is so misleading. Your thumbnail should show you sleeping from the 1hr audio book before you can actually play

[@MetaGoblin]

Lol shush you might wanna check out my live stream of the game 😂

[@kaelinvictus6039]

Its pretty funny when you complain about "long" cut scenes but it ain't really cut scenes and you get called out and humiliated so you refer to it as an "audio book" instead. 😂

[@OFDM-network]

No lvl 1 endgame content is bad, lvl scaling is worst thing in video games, chalenge and reward is what get people going back. Scaling is only mark of quick fix instead of time that it takes to balance stuff. Thats why i play diablo 2 not diablo 4

[@The-0ni]

Gw2 actually has end game world bosses that spawn in or next to each of the starter zones. End game players will go back and fight these bosses for end game loot. If you want more endgame content for lvl1 then you gotta ask yourself, how long are you suppose to be lvl1? The scaling in GW2 is reversed so end game players still have a challenge going back to old zones and they still get end game loot for their current level.

[@Oscarizxc]

Scaling in GW2 gives life to low-level maps. It incentivizes higher level players to come back and play in lower level maps, to populate and eventually to help lower level players. Yea, this system is not perfect per se but it tackles the issue of abandoned and dead zones/maps most MMOs have. Why should a high level player go back to starter maps if there is no reason to? GW2 addresses this by putting end-game objectives, collections, world boss rare drops, loot, XP, currencies, materials. Very well made but certainly far from perfect - and that's fine. Diablo 2 has a specific game loop. Diablo 4 tries to inject more social interactions but failed miserably because most encounters, when played in a party of 2 of more, punishes you. No incentive at all. Likewise, if you are speedfarming in Diablo 2, you'd probably will not bring 3 other people with you. No incentive. That's ARPG to you. GW2 is an MMO. Social interaction is key. And to prevent immense power imbalance across high and low level players in starter zones, level scaling is much needed.

[@darkzim3872]

@@Oscarizxc plus you missed out on that important factor of a low level character, who so happens to wander in and suddenly see 40 people all fighting a giant worm right in the middle of their low level area and they too can join in and get rewards i remember this happening to me when i first started and it was such a buzz

[@cobra7282]

@@darkzim3872 Have a level 80 exotic item sitting in my level 20 characters inventory from doing one of these world bosses in a low level zone. It also gave some level appropriate gear as well. The only thing I can think of that they could do instead of level scaling the whole zone is to make it where players have to choose to sync to the proper level to participate in events within the zone (FFXIV does this with fates). However, that serves no other purpose than for the player to be completely OP in the zone against the regular and non event mobs.

[@PingWhisper]

I tried GW2, something about it just isn't good enough. The story is not interesting, characters boring and graphics are just bad looking. Maybe it's the color pallet or choices but it looks bad. It was worth trying for free, but 30$ yeah no way, the game is really not worth getting into. I think for an MMO gamer, you're much better off with WoW, ESO, FFXIV or something a bit more detailed.

[@eternalvigilance5697]

Pfft.

[@kaelinvictus6039]

People can argue about details vs stylized designs but the combat system from your recommendations sucks ass. Global cooldowns, no dodges and accidentaly interrupting your skills with movement? No thanks.

[@Oscarizxc]

How many hours did you spend in GW2? I'm curious because the combat, the mounts, the end-game loop, is by far one of the better ones when compared to those titles you mentioned. If you only played the free version up till level 80, it's pretty dry, not going to lie. Once you start unlocking Elite Specialisations from the 1st paid expansion, the entire gameplay loop ramps up. The combat, story narrative and the pace of the game changes. This is because base vanilla GW2 has very poor story telling and tech. With the 1st expansion (Heart of Thorns), changes and improvements were made to how dialogues are being delivered. Path of Fire (2nd expansion) introduced game changing mounts that weave you into combat too. But I agree, the only downside I see in this game is the dated graphics. Apart from that, everything else is fluid and awesome. Give the expansions a try one day. 10/10 would recommend.

[@eternalvigilance5697]

@@Oscarizxc The dated graphics look much better just using some nvidia filters. Mostly just needs a bit of sharpening.

[@PingWhisper]

@@Oscarizxc I played for 31 hours, 2 characters a guardian and ranger. The mount is fun definitely the best, it's the graphics and story to me are just so bad. Maybe in DLC it gets better, but I wasn't sold after 31 hours.