Twin Peaks - The Final Dossier & Laura Palmer

Twin Peaks - The Final Dossier & Laura Palmer
This edition contains SPOILERS for season 3, episodes 1 through 18! Also spoilers from the outstanding new book by Twin Peaks co-creator Mark Frost - The Final Dossier.
Viewers and listeners beware!
Please share your thoughts, theories, and observations regarding Twin Peaks the Return

[@dennisleeftink6279]

This is actually brilliant. Where the show runners originally wanted keep Laura's death a mystery, now they have turned it around and didn't tell us anything about her life, being in an alternate timeline and all.

[@amwoods86]

is it just me or does something really get you right in the feels at the mention of Pete going fishing?!

[@JunkyardHounds]

Season 4 should be 15 episodes of Pete fishin

[@amazingabby25]

Yes. Esp because of the actors sad life

[@takimashuda]

Big time

[@alyssafoster4765]

There was a fish…

[@rajenbara1]

@@alyssafoster4765 in the percolator

[@_alex_y.not_]

Also Sarah's middle name is Judith and her father had direct connections to the Manhattan Project which is why they were in New Mexico in the first place! She has direct and overt connections to almost all of the negativity in the Twin Peaks universe as a result.

[@blainealexander5091]

The more I learn about Twin Peaks, the more I am freaked out by it.

[@1020mikki]

i love how we all collectively love when pete actually got to go fishing

[@agentdalecooper8980]

The gum that I like is back in style...meanwhile...

[@RESISTING1]

"And inspiiiiiired byyyy" is back in style

[@grahammcdonald]

I feel enlightened, yet somewhat still in the dark. What fascinates me is Chet Desmond. He just disappeared.. did he fix things, change the timeline causing him to vanish. I’d have loved to see another room with Chris Issac just sitting in a chair.

[@nikolailic7263]

LET`S ROCK!

[@vannabby8]

Graham McDonald i agree, poor chet....:/ i liked him we will probably never know

[@nikolailic7263]

Chester Desmond was opposite to Dale Cooper, initials says that.

[@sparrowhawk81]

Welcome to David Lynch!

[@Brewzerr]

Graham McDonald - the fate of Agent Chet Desmond has always been something that has haunted me ever since I first watched FWWM on the big screen in 1992. Seriously, *WTF* happened to him? Prior to watching The Return, I always just kind of assumed he was transported to the black lodge and was stuck there with Cooper. I really expected his story to continue in The Return, but he was hardly even mentioned, except briefly by Albert when he’s explaining the history of the Blue Rose Task Force to Agent Tammy Preston. My new theory is that he went into ‘non-existence’, or into the same void that Cooper went into in episodes/parts 2 and 3. Only unlike Cooper, who managed to slip out through what I’m assuming was a chamber of the white lodge, Agent Desmond is still hurtling through the void. That’s the best I can deduce. I was pretty disappointed that he never appeared in The Return.

[@TheSphereHunter]

Damn that intro was epic!

[@bernardoevo]

Thanks!

[@Zazzaro703]

The Sphere Hunter I really enjoy your RE videos, so not so strange to see you here in the Twin Peaks world as well :).

[@Brandon_Powell]

Wow! Weird to see you here. Although it makes sense to find someone like you in a place both wonderful and strange.

[@RogerOThornhill]

Excellent job, WLW! You made me think: remember how everything we know of Jeffries from Fire Walk with Me seemed to have been forgotten by Cole and Albert until Cole's dream? Did Jeffries change the timeline a well, maybe even way back before the events of the original TP series? This would explain why he succumbed to the black lodge (meddling endangers your soul) and why Albert and Cole forgot important details of his appearance at the Philadelphia office: it was no longer the official timeline.

[@heddalee]

I always had the feeling that Gordon and Albert remembered Jeffries' visit, they only forgot that Jeffries pointed to Coop and said what he said. Cole started the conversation by saying "back when Jeffries appeared in the Philadelphia office, and didn't appear" - the bluntness, and lack of surprise in Cole's voice, makes me think that he remembers the visit, and assumes Albert does as well. He only expressed surprise at the one single statement of Jeffries.

[@opwave79]

Finished reading this on Thursday and that whole reveal about Laura totally surprised me as well. Great interpretation on the Carrie Page and creepy Sarah Palmer scenes. This big reveal opens up so many new questions that could feed so much new material! I'm especially curious about the effects on Audrey. Could she also be struggling with the altered reality and could that have made her shut down her salon and go into hiding? I wonder...

[@TheAwetist802]

I am wondering that, too... that somehow, Audrey is not totally in either timeline when we see her...

[@mikenayers5981]

Here’s what I think has happened/is happening. Judy/Joudey/Mother of All Evil is very limited in how she can interact with the Earth Realm, and so when the nuke set off in the 40s it happened at a geographical location where the barriers keeping her realm and Earth separated was already weak. During this disruption she was able to send through the Woodsmen, and also birth BOB, and send him over. She can’t YET come here, so she sends forward agents. The Fireman then sees BOB manifest and he creates what becomes Laura and sends it to Earth. This egg takes several years to hatch and the “froggermoth” hatches, then goes into a teenaged Sarah to incubate. It stays there until she can conceive a child. So BOB’s mission was probably to possess Laura, and if that didn’t work, kill her. With Laura dead that should have been the end of any and all opposition, so the next part of BOB’s mission was to build the box and let Judy into this realm. Now through Evil Cooper, and with Windom Earle’s soul he ingrain’s himself with the criminal underworld to get the funds needed to build this box. In the meantime Judy finds another means to interact with this world and takes over Sarah to again be here in a limited capacity. Sarah’s psychic abilities and weakened state of mind probably made her the ideal vessel. I also think the possession happened in both timelines. Judy is also paranoid by any change, and questions anything that’s different as changes in the timeline. One example would be the freak out over the beef jerky. So once Cooper and the Fireman’s plan takes BOB and Evil Cooper off the table, he pulls the trigger on going back in time to save Laura. This explains Judy/Sarah smashing the picture since she now realizes killing Laura won’t stop her. Next she plucks her away after Laura was rescued and tucks her away in either a pocket dimension or alternate universe. Cooper with his coordinates takes Diane with him to go get Laura. Physically crossing is the first part to this, and once you cross it takes time for the change to take place. This is why Cooper woke up in a different motel room, and left in a different car. Dale’s demeanor is different while he’s here because he’s in the home stretch of his plan, and has nothing but tunnel vision. So he finds Laura with no memory of her past self, and he’s also unfazed by everything he encounters because he knows none of this is real. So he takes her to the Palmer residence, and talks to the tenant of this version of the house. Once the plan of taking Laura home seemed fruitless, and all hope seems lost, Laura get’s her memories back when she hears Sarah calling her name. The lights going out, and Laura’s scream is the exact moment her and Cooper come back to their home world/dimension. Now Laura’s back it’s time to figure how “Laura is the one”, and how she can finally take down Judy.

[@claudetrouillot6732]

Miken Ayers interesting

[@mikenayers5981]

Claude Trouillot I could very well be wrong, but this is the closest I could come to an answer if the show continues.

[@katk3489]

Miken Ayers Very interesting. I like it.

[@amandasutton3717]

Welp, according to the final dossier, I was right about it being Sarah Palmer. I don't think we can say what the "Judy-bug"/frog-moth was carrying, except a possible Lodge spirit, or part of Judy herself. It's only enough to say that the frog-moth is separate from BOB and Laura. Laura was made as a Lodge-like spirit/force, but not to combat BOB (although we saw her corrupted by BOB): she was made to combat Judy. Agent Cooper/Richard was taking Carrie Paige (the last missing page) to her old house, as Sarah is possessed by the force that is Judy. I've come to the same conclusions as you: How can Laura take down Judy?

[@mikenayers5981]

Amanda Sutton I still feel the frog moth carried the Laura essence, and will believe such until something in the narrative tells us otherwise. As far as Laura combating Judy goes, would anything surprise you at this point? Freddy was anointed with super human strength to kill BOB, but had to obtain it through very zany and specific conditions. Since Frost seems knowledgeable in occult history and mythology, there’s probably a specific myth he wants to put on screen, and one that’s yet to be adapted.

[@jaytaylor7740]

About Audrey, I just read that her original story line in the tv show was not only going to show her as the salon operator, but as the victim of her son's Richard's attack. But that because Sherilyn Fenn disliked that story line so much, David Lynch re-wrote her the story line. Mark Frost said he gave the change his "blessing." So that...kind of...explains the weird Audrey scenes we got. And I'll admit, I think I'd prefer them to seeing her being attacked by her son.

[@stephaniemc9948]

Poor Audrey, I feel she truly got the short end of the stick. I know it’s not Lynch to give the fluffy ending but she was someone I wanted to see have a good life. I also thought it was odd that Cooper didn’t even think of her once when he came back to himself.

[@jonhon]

Instead her story was written as a threat to write her out of the story. Would have definitely preferred a relationship between Aubrey and Richard.

[@williamwatson4354]

It was a damn good book. Especially if you want to know the answer to, "How's Annie?"

[@sandrafaith]

What I thought was interesting is that people reported hearing "electrical or mechanical word sounds" coming out over the radio--not the specific words, "This is the water, and this is the well..." It also did not really mention that Naido became Diane in front of everyone, but said that Diane came up from the prison cells.

[@Brewzerr]

Subliminal Origami - I thought it was absolutely brilliant that Lucy got to be the one who kills Mr. C. She was the least likely character that anyone would have expected to do that. Typical Lynch - defying everyone’s expectations. Had ‘the good Dale’ been the one to kill Mr. C, it would have been far too predictable and conventional.

[@amazingabby25]

Brewzerr and the moron Andy, being the chosen one in white lodge

[@rini6]

Great summary. Even though this dossier was relatively short, it was so chock full of information I was happily surprised. The alternate timeline becoming the only timeline people remember was the biggest thing, I agree. I look forward to more of your videos!

[@TheAwetist802]

And that explains a lot of the differences that we see at the Roadhouse, for instance, and with new people who seem like tangents...

[@deadaiir]

"Find Laura." Because the Leland in the lodge in S3 is the one who killed himself in the alternate timeline? The one who died without ever knowing what happened to his daughter? Those scenes do differ between the first and second time they are shown, so maybe Coop's journey is indeed stuck on an infinite loop and he's been hopping between timelines?

[@AdamLodestone]

I think, that, like Jeffries, Cooper has become "untethered" from linear time. It would seem that what you are saying here must be true. Leland, in S3, says "Find Laura" and in FWWM, he says "I didn't kill anybody"... both of these things seem to suggest that this Leland (in the Lodge, during S3) is the one from the "Laura Is Missing" alternate timeline and that, maybe by virtue of his previous possession by Bob and his suicide, he is trapped in the Lodge. Both he and Laura seem to have two presences (at least) in the Lodge: alternately they show up with normal eyes and pale blue eyes... which , like Cooper's sometimes-present-other-times-not FBI pin, must have a significance.

[@JunkyardHounds]

@@AdamLodestone Hence why Cooper first saves laura by taking her in the woods and the timeline changes, then cooper has to save laura again, by finding her and returning her home, but he can't, cuz without her murder there's no Twin peaks and therefore, no Sarah, nothing.

[@wormswithteeth]

What blew my mind was that Tammy sort of recognised the fact that Laura died and also that she didn't.

[@saulothebebop2581]

Wow lynch wow has one of the most satisfying voices i have ever listened to. Even if we get out of Twin Peaks juice i would like him to be on a podcast or something.

[@armageddonbound]

Saúl Villaseñor I cant even watch the whole thing because of how horrible the voice is. It sounds like a caricature of a stereotype.

[@DanielDavissynthman]

Same here. His info is good, but the delivery is so bad. He should get someone else to read what he writes for the videos.

[@herrklamm1454]

Saulothebebop I think he sounds like the comic book guy from The Simpsons.

[@jonnyfavors7585]

It's like listening to your favorite cabby driver talk to u on your way to your destination.

[@davidlogan8905]

Just got to 6 mins and I was thinking that before (I may have left a comment about it on a previous video). I suspect that all the new characters we saw talking at The Roadhouse are also from this different timeline.

[@Luciencarr337]

I'm itching for more videos from you, thank you so much by the way!

[@goblinoidfilms7119]

Great stuff, Pete! The "I'm fine" part is STILL giving me chills!

[@capnmuphy2021]

Just noticed something interesting, which may shed light on something in the Final Dossier. SPOILERS AHEAD: Annie Blackburn is basically now in a somewhat vegetative state, according to the book. Every year at 8:30 a.m. the only thing she says is "I'm fine", and that's it. I'm watching episode 2.18 (Note: it's 2.25 on the Blu Ray release) and in the exchange between Dale and Annie in the diner, the "I'm fine" exchange comes up frequently between them. Perhaps, in her mind she is reliving that happy moment each year in her blank, coma like state. I believe thisoment in the TV show is also happening around 8:30 a.m.

[@blackthornejoshua2929]

Or shes answering doppler cooper in last scene of the finale episode of s2. "How's annie?"... ... . "I'm fine"

[@g13n79]

@@blackthornejoshua2929 yep

[@tiagocosmos]

i just finished reading TP: TFD yesterday and oh my god it's the final piece i needed to fully appreciate TP as a whole. that being said i'm currently reading The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer (just got both in the mail yesterday and i'm a fast reader). god i love TP. Awesome work with your channel and videos, man. i'm currently rewatching The Return and i have a whole new apreciation for it after TSHoTP and TFD. The fact that the golden globes snubbed Twin Peaks The Return is tantamount to a war crime.

[@Iamthestrang]

Your blogs are a complete joy to hear each time. Just a thought: you know how Coop entered the world as Dougie Coop and needed 'awakened', it seems that with Laura having never actually been murdered, she has entered the lodge at some point and emerged as Carrie Paige only to possibly having been 'awakened' by Coop at the former Palmer house. I'm lost however in just where Audrey Horne is and at her own 'awakening' looking in the mirror. Confusing but intriguing all the same.

[@aaronhussey4213]

Fine work as always! The itching has intensified. Look forward to more!

[@eggft.spicysmallguacamole2270]

3:00 am crew checking in

[@RICHARDGRANNON]

Its 3am for the 3 am crew.

[@francoisbouvier2088]

How refreshing to have a new video from you. Keep it up we love you...

[@CubbieBlue902]

Great video as always! Your videos help stimulate my thoughts on this story!

[@damienx0x]

You have the best voice of anyone on KZbin and perhaps the whole world.

[@abigaileldritch]

Wait. Sarah was one of two affected in her town. What if a tresmond or chalfont was the other? And one of those names is Sarah's maiden name. I cant wait to get the final dossier

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

Sarah's maiden name is given in the book as "Novak." I'll just mention that this is probably a reference to Kim Novak, who played two characters, named Madeline and Judy, in Hitchcock's Vertigo. (Jimmy Stewart played Scottie Ferguson, from whence came the second half of Madeline Ferguson's name.)

[@HeatherHolt]

The dead guy on the couch, his stomach is all bloated.... I wonder is the bob orb in there or was?? Seems too noticeable to be just a little bit of death bloat.

[@RogerOThornhill]

Yeah I think he had to have been possessed by some evil spirit. If Bob is dead, then it could still be one of those millions of globules that emerged from the Experiment. It seems Judy was still after Laura, torturing her, gunning for her.

[@Geocosmic]

Heather Holt the actor that played him was one of the guys janey e meets on the playground

[@Foxtrop13]

I noticed but I didnt find a discussion of it in anywhere, it seems a very important detail, also whats with the ak rifle?

[@RogerOThornhill]

Wow, that's great. I never noticed or read that before. Damn...

[@thisisnotachannel]

Can't believe I haven't read this book yet... I'll bet I can get it from my library!

[@q1o2]

I need more Twin Peaks!

[@AssCultStexSound]

Your recaps became essential for my twin peaks experience... thanx wowlynchwow!

[@vidoyeahh]

also book shows Sarah Palmer full name, and she has second name Sarah Judith so thats is the connection i guess, it tells us that Sarah may be Judy. Also book mentions Sumerian myth about Jouday and Baal so when that happens the real evil is born, if you think about it Leland was possessed by bob his entire life and if Sarah is Judy and got maried it all kinda makes sense. The reason why Laura was so pure is because giant created her orb to counter the demon pair, that is why they wanted her dead.

[@JAMAICADOCK]

The overarching theme of Twin Peaks, the Return - is stasis. Almost every character is stuck in some way. Whether unable to leave the house; the jobt, a cold case or an old love affair etc etc There seems to be a deep melancholia in people just not developing, not moving forward, In the horror of ordinary existence. So much so, evil becomes almost a force of liberation, the only way out of the terminal drudgery. And that is a theme Lynch has always explored, how evil isn't only necessary - but perhaps vital. How life would be unremittingly dull without it. Good triumphs in the Lynchean universe, but you get the feeling Lynch thinks evil has its place, A duality that the philosopher Zizek picked up on in Lost Highway, how the lives of the gangsters and pornographers seemed preferable to the oppressive domestic drudgery in the beginning of the film. But perhaps the Return is stating that the evil is out of balance, it's becoming the norm; as opposed to a liberating nihilistic outrider. The cosmic order of America becoming out of whack, and in need of calibration. The manichean battle between good and evil in danger of being won by the black lodge.

[@robertbusek30]

I think that creating the imbalance that you note here was BOB’s “Plan B” when he was forced to murder Laura instead of possessing her. In the end, he wanted Leland to be caught, knowing that this revelation would create massive amounts of garmonbozia throughout the town for the Black Lodge to feed upon. Indeed, the amount of pain and suffering created was so bad that it created a kind of collective amnesia throughout the town, which explains the three day gap in the narrative of Season 2 between “Arbitrary Law” and “Dispute Between Brothers” and the fact that Laura is almost never mentioned again in Season 2.

[@andrewwestwater7741]

Another triumphant video, thanks, had to read the book first before checking out your theories, and what this all means for Sarah, Laura, Cooper and TP.. and of course, what it means for a possible season 4, I'm just itching for that!!.. ✌️❤️🏔️🏔️🦉🔥☕😎

[@kentcampbell122]

Cole will remember the unofficial version because Cole is David Lynch and thus, created the original show to remember it.

[@capnmuphy2021]

Excellent, insightful video. Much like I noticed when reading it, the Final Dossier touches on themes of the Mandela Effect (changes that have happened, and people remembering them differently) and an alternate timeline affected by Cooper's actions (Laura only 'disappeaered', Kirsten, Steve, and Becky are alive, etc). But what really blew my mind is the point you brought up, that this is probably the Sarah Palmer from the alternate timeline and her scenes are from the alternate timeline. Now I DEFINITELY need to watch it again with that perspective. In fact, I think what we are seeing in The Return are multiple timelines playing out along side each other, but made to look (and fool us) as though they are a cohesive whole. Well done, sir. The only thing I would disagree on is that I think Carrie Page is in a whole other reality, one separate than the twin peaks and alternate timelines. Cooper had to find her there. For example that may explain why the diner sequence had two different sets of patrons during the same scene during the quick cut

[@heddalee]

I don't think anyone would argue that the Return asserts itself as a 'cohesive whole.'

[@capnmuphy2021]

heddalee thanks for the comment , but that's not what I'm saying. Should have worded it differently. What I mean is that it's possible we are watching one or more tinelines or realities at one, running along each other at the same time during the show

[@AdamLodestone]

Yes, and what that makes me think of is the "Infinity sign" we see as Jeffries is showing/telling Cooper where to find Judy is the Ouroboros: the snake that eats its own tail and time, as we know, is anything but linear or singular.

[@MultiBum123]

I really enjoy your videos and I think you should consider doing analysis videos of David lynch's films I'd love to hear your interpretation and explanations of his movies! 👍

[@jaytaylor7740]

I second that. Would also enjoy you looking at Seasons 1 and 2 of Twin Peaks. Easier said than done, I know, but if you were to start a Patreon account, I bet a lot of people would support it! I would!!

[@claudetrouillot6732]

Excellent video. And i MUST read that book. I hope they make a S4 and explain SOME of this

[@jfrsnjhnsn]

Ronette's discrepancies remind me of Frost's baffling errors about Norma's mom in the "Secret History" book, and the convoluted retconning he then did to cover for that in the "Final Dossier". It's like Frost was writing this and for some reason didn't connect with the show on those aspects.

[@swayze_mane]

This may be a stupid question, possibly even a stupid TPTR observation, but have you touched on the idea that Carrie Paige, “carries the page,” as in the fourth & final missing page from Laura’s diary? We are all well aware that Hawk found 3 of them in the TP sheriffs department bathroom stall door - and later he clearly explains to Sheriff Truman there is one more. Maybe I just don’t remember you or many other people online pointing out the “Carrie Paige = carry page” coincidence. In fact the only place I can remember seeing anything about this at all was over on Super Dacob’s (yes with a ‘D’) KZbin channel, which I highly recommend checking out. I remember feeling like this was an important clue the moment we were introduced to Carrie Paige in s03e18. I can’t imagine that coincidence not having any meaning considering all of the other clues Mark and David left us, in both the episodes & books.

[@damienx0x]

Another great piece of analysis.

[@tylerskiss]

As long as Ronette still crosses the border, Cooper comes to Twin Peaks because that's the event that brought him initially. In the book they discuss Jeffries and the appearance of people like Briggs who never really age (because Briggs was hiding in the "zone") so I suppose the reason Gordon can remember the Unofficial Version is because he has also learned how to slip the bounds of time- he has aged because he spends most of his time in our "reality", but the fact that he seems familiar with the zone and seems to understand how it works suggests that he has taken part in that field of investigation and thus has memories of multiple timelines. I imagine a Timecop-esque scenario where Gordon uses the zone as a way to alter things to climb the ranks of the FBI to become Regional Bureau Chief in a short amount of time, even to the point where he sends people like Chet Desmond out to find other secrets that ultimately get those people killed when Gordon is really only doing it for his own desires.

[@cobieeliseforshaw8162]

Gordon has always known far more than he has let on. He wasn't surprised Diane was a tulpa, he knew all about Joudy and the plan with Cooper and Philip Jeffries, and I expect he knows what happened to Windom Earle, too. Why? Because he is the dreamer - in his dreams, as we see in the show, he is David Lynch. The man who created everything, and one of only two people who has any real idea about what is happening at all.

[@tylerskiss]

I'm guessing Mark Frost is the other person, but judging from the book, even he was caught off guard by a few of Lynch's choices (like Freddie).

[@shmackatrotsky5394]

the fact that Tammy does not acknowledge the info dump Gordon laid on her and Albery regarding Jaodey in The Final Dossier was the most glaring omission in the book. The Judy chapter acted as if she had never had that conversation with Gordon at all. Overall, I loved the book, but there were a few inconsistencies (much the same as Secret History).

[@Cybjon]

There's 3 timelines, I think; Original timeline where Laura is murdered, the one where she disappeared, and the third, "real world" time line in which Carrie Page lives. Cole might remember the Unofficial Version simply because he's David Lynch in the "real world." The first two timelines may account for the odd discrepancies that kept turning up over season 3 (as well as the contradictions in Frost's books).

[@TheAwetist802]

oooooh.... *lightbulb goes on* ... this makes a LOT of sense... it also explains the reason why the Double R Diner looks the way it does when Cooper (now Richard?) and Carrie drive into "Twin Peaks" and why it is the actual owner of the house, in real life, who answers the door... except, that, too, is an alternate timeline from ours ~ just slightly "off center" ~ where minor details are different ~ or else that woman would have said her real world name instead. It is if on the spectrum of our real world reality and the Twin Peaks reality, that reality is closer to our real world reality but with some hues of the TP one.

[@lock67ca]

Here's what I took from it. When Laura disappears from Coop, after he saves her, she's transported to that other dimension/alternate universe where Coop later finds her living as Carrie Page. She's been there for 25 years. She's reported as missing from Twin Peaks and the investigation is still ongoing. When we see Coop in the Lodge again, this is from the new timeline he created, where he was reported missing after investigating her disappearance. This is why he seems different from that point on and why he's confused about things at the end.

[@Buzzode]

Great Stuff as Aways ..... Wow Frost Wow !!! ..... Love Listening To Your Videos

[@john_dillermand]

We're all trying to grasp at straws at what ultimately is going on here. I think Dave and Mark told us from the beginning. "There are two things that continue to trouble me, and I'm speaking now not only as an agent of the Bureau, but as a human being: What really went on between Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys, and who really pulled the trigger on JFK?" "We are like the dreamer who dreams and lives inside the dream, but who is the dreamer?"

[@Dontuween]

And I am itching for more Wow Lynch Wow! videos! :)

[@biancachristie]

Yay! Another WLW so soon. So . . . the Giant creates the Laura orb in response to the Mother barfing up the BOB orb. Then, after several years pass, Sarah swallows the frogmoth. How did Sarah end up being both the source of Laura's goodness (literally, since she gave birth to Laura) and the locus of all that evil? Did the Fireman somehow choose Sarah to bring Laura into the world, with the Mother sending the frogmoth afterwards to somehow compromise Sarah? Or perhaps it was the other way around? And what does it really mean when Sarah freaks out and stabs Laura's picture? I have so many more questions now, again--which is great, but I'm itching to know more.

[@tonyatmidnight]

I am thinking Judy-as-Sarah was angry Laura was taken away by Cooper and was lashing out at the picture ... Laura was dead in that dimension, which met Judy's needs ... with Laura gone, Judy lost control.

[@kimberleywien4231]

the KEY is, In 1989 Laura and Agent Cooper saw each other in a dream, and the "Cooper" she and Cooper himself saw in the dream was Cooper 25 years older, Laura wrote the dream in the diary before her death, addressing Agent Cooper as "an older man" and there's one page missing from her diary. The younger Cooper addresses his dream with Diane in the recorder, so Diane was his diary. In 2017 season, Diane was hidden and replaced with a tulpa. 25 years later: Episode17: Older Cooper found teen Laura (with the help from Philip Jeffries and MIKE) in Twin Peaks to bring her home and she disappears screaming in thin air and then Cooper suddenly in the waiting room meeting older Laura. Episode18 (Final): Older Cooper found older Laura (Carrie Page) in Texas (with the help from the Fireman) to bring her home and she screams and then everything stops. Laura' s missing page should written : "2 :53 ...Time and time and time again" WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM -TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN. What Laura whispered to Cooper in 2017 season final was her MISSING PAGE, in where they would eventually meet each other outside the red room/waiting room, in some "alternate worlds". In disbelief Cooper then utters "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM". So who is JUDY (the extreme negative force)? Laura IS Judy. LAURA IS THE ONE. This is why 2017 Bad Coop was after her, because BOB who is still with him wanted Laura's body & soul, according to Laura's secret diary. Question is, does Philip Jeffries ever existed? Bear in mind that he was the first person who talked about "Ms Judy".

[@Lastnamestranger]

It seems like the Final Dossier confirms that different events in time are occurring simultaneously. All timelines are overlapping. Everyone is in the dream of time and space and I'm definitely okay with it. Definitely more than it being a character's (Cooper, Audrey, Laura, The Mounty from season 2) dream. There's room for so much more! The universe has expanded to allow for so many amazing possibilities. Thank you for your videos!

[@mikezagari]

Great video! I don't know if all the scenes with Sarah in Season 3 could be an alternative timeline though. Specifically because Hawk comes to visit her. He would then also have to be in the alternate timeline and know that she lives there.

[@WowLynchWow]

That was the one scene that initially gave me some hesitation. But I still think it fits with the end of the book and what we saw in season 3. Hawk would still be in both timelines. In the one where Laura never died, Pete got to go fishing, and I don't see why Hawk might not have visited Sarah.

[@AdamLodestone]

I think that most or all of what we see in Twin Peaks during Season 3 happens in the alternate "Laura Went Missing" timeline. I am thinking of Dept. Bobby Briggs seeing Laura's picture among the items from the box of evidence that Hawk opened up (upon Margaret "the Log Lady"' Lanterman's guidance) and how deeply it shocked him... when I read about the changed timeline in the Final Dossier, that reaction suddenly seemed to make a lot of sense, since that response from Bobby FELT more to me like confusion and grief over unanswered questions and unresolved turmoil... which makes sense if Laura had just suddenly gone missing that night, instead of dying. I don't know. Maybe I am reaching there... but that is what my intuition says. That, and all of the weird things that never quite added up and felt to me like, nobody is acting quite right and why, whenever Dale Cooper came up in conversation, did it feel like they weren't all working with the same context we (the viewers) were? Does any of this make sense? I am not sure how to articulate it...

[@MojoVince]

I don't think Sarah is in an alternate time cause she is at the Palmer's house and then she's not in the Carrie Page dimension.

[@RogerOThornhill]

That could still be. There was someone in the house with Sarah throughout the third season. Carrie could have been living in Texas, memory free, during Sarah's whole alternate timeline.

[@jaytaylor7740]

That makes sense, to the extent that anything in Twin Peaks makes sense lol. I kind of wish we'd never had to deal with the frog/moth crawling into what was apparently Sarah. Since we don't know what the frog/moth represented, it's hard to know what it signified for Sarah.

[@DGREENE39]

Right. He's wrong about that. Sarah was in the same timeline as everyone else.

[@RogerOThornhill]

In the grocery store Sarah freaks out because the jerky has changed. I her timeline is almost certainly the altered one.

[@davemack1946]

Great analysis. Although I'm not sure if I agree, it did get me thinking about the Sarah scenes being the alternate timeline, and more broadly, if there were scenes in The Return which interspersed the normal with alternate timeline, such as that dude running in looking for Billy. One thing I considered is if there's a meta awareness in the show. She keeps looking for Billy, and in Season 2, her love interest was played by Billy Zane (granted his character wasn't named Billy but James Hurley is played by someone named James Marshall so maybe there's an inside joke of sorts?). Also, Balthazar Getty plays Red, very similar to Pete from Lost Highway who was a mindscape of Fred. Red and Fred? Could be a coincidence, crossover stuff, or Lynch having some fun

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

What do you make of the portrait of Kafka next to the portrayt of the nuclear blast in Gordon's office? Because I tend to see as Lynch saying this whole season is a Kafkian joke and has no actual logic or meaning, being on one level a satire with the very idea and structure of logic and continuation in normal TV series, just as the original Twin Peaks played with and subverted the idea of TV soup operas.

[@t.p.0104]

6:49 how did they shoot this scene with Sheryl Lee looking exactly the same in 1992? Beautiful💗

[@kamealex]

Sarah is consumed by her daugther's dissapearance and Judy overcomes her. She is pure darkness at the end of the show, and what contains Judy until her very death.

[@Marcel_Audubon]

now I'm itching to read that book!

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

I'm looking forward to your next video.

[@LoganSewell83]

The picture tended to distort at times during Season 3. Two moments I recall is when Tammy is walking down the hall and when Deputy Hawk is walking up the steps to meet with Sarah.

[@DavidHarrisonPhD]

Great review

[@JhreynoldsPort]

Great Video!!!

[@randyjackson6709]

That shot of Leland dragging the two girls through the woods always makes me laugh. Who's holding the flashlight?

[@Niesrind]

The dreamer.

[@pinealdreams1064]

I have to be honest, I think you're completely wrong on Sarah; I'm pretty sure that whether her daughter died or went missing, she would turn to alcoholism and drug abuse regardless. I'm pretty sure she was on the regular timeline, and that trucker was gonna die either way.

[@WowLynchWow]

You could be correct, and that does make sense to me. However, the language used in the book specifically made a point to say she suffered from those things at least in the timeline that Leland had committed suicide.

[@pinealdreams1064]

I will grant that to you, my friend. The position it is placed within the novel would suggest it's very possible it's referencing the new timeline....though I think the inclusion's for a worse reason. Not to tell us that Sarah's scenes were on the new timeline, but rather to tell us that, despite the changed timeline, Sarah ends up the same way regardless. Which makes it all the more tragic. Still, fantastic content man, and always keep an eye out for, and enjoy, your videos. Please start doing your interpretation of Lynch's back catalogue; I'd love to discuss them with you.

[@batatinhacomics]

Inspecting (only) the show's clues about Sarah, I'd say she may be on the alternate timeline based on three things: 1) the beef jerky freak out in the grocery scene, 2) there was someone else in the house with Sarah, we can hear them when Hawk goes there and 3) there was someone else in the house with the Tremond woman at the end of Part 18. So, the someone in the house with Sarah when Hawk shows up could be Alice Tremond and the someone in the House with Alice when Cooper and Laura show up could be Sarah. Given the information about her alcoholism and it's place in the book, I think it's a fair guess.

[@pinealdreams1064]

I'd say it's definitely a fair theory that holds weight, man. Just not saying it with as much certainty as you two, and still don't entirely buy it. Wouldn't rule it out either, though.

[@batatinhacomics]

Yeah, I mean, it could very well be the normal timeline. It's just interesting to me that there are enough clues out there to build a theory.

[@standardofexcellence]

Welcome back bro

[@marc80s]

Love the intro!

[@zunipus]

That was *Ronette* talking backwards to Cooper in the reversed version of the 'Non-existence' building? Really? I would never have figured that was her. - - You've pointed to so many instances of incoherence in the story that I've given up trying to make sense of it all. At least attempting to make sense of it isn't a total loss. But there are points in the story that I can't believe are meant to make any sense. But I will point out that Laura is NOT just another person in the story. She's a creation of The Fireman as a deliberate counter to the spew from Judy during the first nuclear explosion. As such, she's a pawn in all this. I find it useful to think of her as being used throughout her personal history. No wonder she screams.

[@AdamLodestone]

I didn't catch that it was Ronette either!! Oh wow! So Ronette and Dianne (Naido) were there in the non-existence building... Huh.

[@tonyatmidnight]

It was the actress who played Ronette, but in the credits the character was listed as American Girl. So was it Ronette, was it a doppleganger/ tulpa, just a shout-out to the original series, or something completely different? There is a critique of episode 4 online that argues that the lyrics of Tom Petty's single "American Girl" matches the American Girl scenes perfectly. Even stranger: the B-side to Petty's "American Girl" was his song "Wild One", which was the name of the famous Brando film that was lampooned in the Michael Cera scenes in the very same episode. That CANNOT be coincidence. ew.com/recap/twin-peaks-season-3-episode-3-4/

[@romavictora]

I'm itchin' for more myself! I especially enjoyed the Audiobook. The Audrey parts are EPIC as well, overall Excellent work by Mr. FROST . Will we get a Season 4 in your opinion? Keep it itchy!

[@thisisnotachannel]

We damned well BETTER get a season 4... or another movie... or whatever they decide to release!

[@romavictora]

@@thisisnotachannel sadly alot of the cast is gone now. #rip #legendsneverdie

[@DethronerX]

Sorry for so many edits, but please do let me know what you think. You'd probably have figured this out already, but I'll post it anyway : D 7:02, "If Sarah is in the Alternate Timeline, then why do we see Tremonds in her house?" This Tremond reality starts when Richard wakes up. The previous alternate timeline Cooper creates by saving Laura is where Laura disappears again, so she can't be in that timeline anymore, but where she wakes up as Carrie. (Maybe that's why she disappeared, she woke up. Maybe this is why everyone disappears, they wake up, until maybe they sleep and dream again). So, Carrie Paige is in Odessa timeline and her expression is the aftereffect of her Laura dream, all of S1, 2, FWWM, S3 with it's Alternate timeline, where she disappears/wakes up from and wakes up in Odessa as Carrie (Alternate Timeline 2) in the present day in a realistic world), where Cooper wakes up as Richard, but somehow, he remembers his dream name Cooper, but fails to remember Richard and Linda, and asks what year is this? This is why he probably wants to get her home, because he missed her in the previous alternate timeline, but he doesn't realize it's not 80s anymore but 2017 and only realizes when he sees Alice. Carrie is older here and Laura saved by Cooper is younger, (so acted by someone else). He probably thinks this is the 80s, until he asks what Year, which makes it very comedy, until Carrie screams. So this is not only a yet again new timeline, but a different time and more realistic present world, where the actual actress lives as Tremond name, which hints that this is not the REAL world where live, but a "real world" for Richard and Carrie. And, this cannot be the reality where Hawk finds Sarah, even if that was 2017, because their names are still Sarah and Hawk. Another proof is how RR Diner looks different than how we see it previously in this season, even for 2017, it should have said the title. Cooper starts to feel something is wrong, but can't put his finger at anything, well, of course, he points when he asks what year is this. The superimposed Cooper over "We Live Inside A Dream" scene, could be Richard who is watching this and this is why the Cooper at the station cannot see him, but imposed Richard can and this is probably the to show the point that his dream has become Lucid or to show us it's Richard dreaming or he Cooper in the Lodge, watching this, since we see Diane transformation happen in the Red Room. Either way, if he appears to be making Cooper accomplish these things fast, before the dream (or part of it) ends at 2:53. Who knows, that's the time he wakes up as Richard, because when he goes out, it doesn't look like early morning, but mid day afternoon. I'd love to watch the scene again to see if they show a clock when he wakes up. I want to re-watch, but it's possible part 17 ends like a Hollywood movie, a dream, where Cooper kisses Diane and all gather and Cooper says goodbye to Janie. Part 18 could all be that second alternate timeline, but I don't remember if there are any scenes from the original or first alternate timeline in part 18. Now, the question is, why are there a Tremond and Chalfonts and not changed names. It makes me think that these people are higher than humans and can travel into dreams and they belong to this world in part 18. Well, David Lynch answered one question that Twin Peaks story is not a dream but real, it happened, so that makes Cooper wake up in some alternate version that is more real than Twin Peaks, yet not completely our real world, because their names are not Real names.

[@dgpdx]

Well done, as usual. I thought it was obvious from episode 18 that Carrie Page was Laura since Cooper named her parents and all she could say was "What's going on here?" Clearly she was shaken by hearing a complete stranger name her parents accurately. Also, the girl who swallowed the bug in Ep. 8 had to be someone we would know later, and Sarah is the obvious choice.

[@tonyatmidnight]

It was actually the name Sarah that Carrie had a deep reaction to.

[@marthapozo4881]

It's nice hearing Beakman so interested in TP like he is about science! :P

[@Mayonez86]

A powerhouse video ^^

[@FrancoSierraVJ]

Beyond all the plot stuff, what I still can't figure out is how they shot the Cooper/Laura sequence in Ep.16, anyone knows?

[@zackearl3200]

lynch is a genius

[@steverose3019]

In S03E08 the girl also says she knows where the boy lives, and the boy is a little incredulous how she could know that (alluding to Sara's psychic abilities.) To me, it's 100% clear that frogmoth girl is Sara Palmer, and anyone watching it the first time probably thought the exact same thing. It also implies that the frogmouth sought her out specifically, as did the targeting of the radio station she was listening to. No one else was shown to get froggied, and there was something unnatural living inside her since 1956.

[@blackthornejoshua2929]

Ive started to veer towards the original timeline Laura during season 1 and 2 was in fact a tulpa, and carrie page is the real Laura who's been taken from the past changing the future. So the laura that died imo is a tula, the fireman showing in episode eight exactly how a tulpa can enter our world. We never know or see how dougie or Diane's tulpas entered the world. I find it interesting that we are deprived of cooper the entire return, the focus and twists being on dougie and diane being tulpas. Which we know are made from DNA and golden seeds. The golden laura orb mirroring these seeds but obviously shes laura palmer the entire mystery of the tp universe so it makes sense to me her orb is much bigger and more significant than the seeds we see from dougie and diane. To sum it all up the final episode was a mystery surrounding a woman who looked just like laura. Like dougie to cooper, the whole return seemed to lead us to understanding the way tulpas are created in tp universe, that they are like sleeper agents much like carrie until her show shattering scream lol I find it unlikely we were given 17 episodes of a tulpa theme only to show us carrie and not have has wonder if shes a tulpa with all the hours we just watched as cooper lived the life of his tulpa until awaking fully. Finaly if carrie is in fact the tulpa then in a sense if Carrie's scream ended her story and brought her back to the red room than laura should by theory be able to "go out now". So either way either carrie or Laura is a tulpa but with everything it seems likely that carrie is not the tulpa and the original is. The whisper possibly being something like laura telling cooper "I was manufactured" Now this is something really interesting to think about 👍

[@palequeens]

This also means cooper never had a thing with Annie .

[@batatinhacomics]

It also explains why Annie didn't win (or participate at all) in the Miss Twin Peaks contest as shown in The Secret History of Twin Peaks book.

[@AdamLodestone]

It opens with his autopsy. There are some questions as to whether it was Windom Earle or Bad Cooper who did him in, but the extent of the torture Leo endured sounds more like Earle. It is clear that Albert assumed it was Earle. Sounds like Leo came to a very nasty end.

[@Volition1001]

Can someone help me understand. Is the book written from the perspective of Tammy Preston in the alternate timeline?

[@DethronerX]

I agree with you, that Carrie Paige is Laura, who is lost in the alternate timeline. The reason, i think, Sarah is not in her house, but Alice, it's possible, this is yet another reality. But, the scenes with Gordon Cole, Albert and all, that could be an alternate reality too, or a place where these people are tulpas or on another cycle of life. When you're in the next cycle, you dont have memories of the past life, but it looks like in this life/timeline/reality, Gordon Cole remembers "from long ago" the Philadelphia event and so does Albert. Why would they say, "I'm beginning to remember"? This point of remembering past life is where you may reach somehow. Richard waking up remembers himself as Cooper but Laura remembers herself as Carrie. Notice her blinking being very slow, as if she's in a dream. I think that implies that this may be a dream, compared to her Laura life. Cooper doesn't have Richard memories in this reality. It could mean, he's become the One, if that means reaching the point, where you remember your past life(lives). Sarah calling out "Laura", doesn't necessarily mean Sarah is in the house, but Laura remembering her mother calling in her mind, which breaks this reality or the dream and she supposedly wakes up and waking Cooper at the same time, if they both are dreaming the same dream, like earlier season where we find out that both had the same Red Room dream. Connecting to how Sarah attacks Laura's picture, Laura scream makes sense as the fear of this Sarah, or realizing she is(was supposed to be) dead, because that's when Sarah calls out in the house.

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

One of the main things that stood out to me was the explanation of where the name Judy, or "Joudy," as he spells it, came from, and it wasn't a Chinese word meaning "no explanation," so fans can stop harping on that as if it was established fact.

[@avantgarden758]

You have a lovely speaker voice!

[@almanicole1228]

Going to comment as I watch so I won’t forget anything: I didn’t think that Laura was ever in the train car with Leo & Jacques. I thought they were only ever in the cabin. That stuck out to me, not that it really matters.

[@almanicole1228]

Ok, you caught it Too of course. I don’t know if it means anything either. It is strange though.

[@davidsteece4283]

what did you think of "the secret history of twin peaks"? I know lynch said it was "his history" meaning mark frost's but i really loved how it expanded the mythology too especially in the direction of conspiracy theories as I was always a big X-Files guy

[@sharpasaneraser]

are you any relation to Mort Goldman of Quahog's Goldman's Pharmacy? excellent upload, by the way

[@LabRat10101]

Finally the wow Frost wow episode.

[@CoopDVille-rx3hp]

Have you ever read the Jennifer Lynch authored Diary of Laura Palmer? It was published in Twin Peaks' initial heyday. There were a few details that were later contradicted by some of the things in Fire Walk With Me,and those contradictions were most likely increased in number by the newer season. It's been a long time since I've read it. The copy I read was borrowed. It was an enjoyable read. It's short compared to the average sized novel. It probably just barely qualifies as a novella. I like that (for whatever reason there may have been behind the decision) David Lynch's daughter wrote it. Jennifer Lynch would later direct the films Boxing Helena and Drugstore Cowboy.

[@lyramckenzie8550]

Drugstore cowboy was filmed by gus van sant back in 89' but there was an actress in the film named kelly lynch. And heather graham was also in the movie

[@themerote]

The dead guy with a hole in his head on Carries (Laura) coach has his hand floating in mid air

[@junglejamesie]

Rigor mortis.

[@cobieeliseforshaw8162]

Sarah Palmer's middle name is also revealed as Judith. Which can be shortened to Judy. Carrie is being made to suffer so that Judy can feed off of her.

[@Moopsism]

A Lynchian coincidence with names which he likes to reuse to create confusion imo. Her parents didn't know she would be possessed when she was named.

[@cobieeliseforshaw8162]

Despite swallowing the bug? And clearly being possessed? And being literally THE MOTHER of the most important family unit on the show? That's a heck of a lot more coincidences than, say, Mike and Bobby sharing the same names as MIKE and BOB.

[@TriColoredTiger]

Wow Frost Wow

[@WooogaTooga]

I like the idea of the frogger-moth being a pre requisite for possession. Though it's kinda odd that Joudy wouldn't simply kill Sarah by means of the woodmen to prevent her from bringing Laura into existence, assuming that Joudy even knew that Sarah would be Laura's mother.

[@amazingabby25]

Good came from real evil

[@modifiedcontent]

There is not going to be more Twin Peaks. This season and the Final Dossier were about wrapping up the story.

[@KarlHainer]

Most of this ties in to my theories.

[@unk9530]

I can watch your videos multiple times love what you do I just hate theim just itching for more twin peaks part ,that chick is gross and the joke was definitly funny the first time but like I said I love your videos just 1 complaint you cant be perfect but your insight in this show is much needed and appreciated i just cringe at the end when I see that rash rash. Hope we see more twin peaks in the time we have left with Lynch and Frost I love the books and diary I just want more. showtime shud do it a short season or movie would be amazing.. thanks for all you do For real

[@generallz]

It will take some time till the czech translation will be released here, but I can't wait.

[@robjansen8233]

I did not finish the book yet but on page 87 and 89 it states that laura did die

[@shirleymcdonald2777]

Your soo good pete

[@johncooper720]

Trying to remember if anyone at any point during The Return refers to Laura Palmer's murder? Even when Hawk, Bobby and the Sheriff are looking at her case files in one of the earlier episodes, are they case files for her murder or her disappearance? Does the whole season take place in the alternate timeline Coop creates?

[@tonyatmidnight]

I can't remember how Ben refers to Laura when he is talking about her to Barbara (Ashley Judd).

[@cieplakupka]

I can't say that I didn't like the new episodes...but they seem so unfamiliar to me... like it is not twin peaks anymore. There is no more the atmosphere of a little peaceful town with dark mysteries creeping in, which for me was quintessential to TP. Instead we have a very complicated, sometimes a bit demystified mix of Mulholland drive and Inland Empire. I miss the old series...

[@claudetrouillot6732]

Bartek Uchański and that's whay makes me believe what WOW is saying with this alternate timeline thing. I NEED to read that book. But I felt the difference with the town also

[@damienx0x]

If you miss the old series, watch it again. David Lynch looks forwards not back.