WPL C14 KIT Vs RTR Vs Military Truck (tug of war + hill climb)

[@hybrid32494]

you guys can order up this C14 kit from this link, it's pretty good for the money here. www.banggood.com/custlink/m3K3tcKcCw

[@oms_fightsbb6509]

(No problem ) “car flips” 😂

[@hybrid32494]

haha, the reality of my RC videos, lol. thanks for watching bro!!

[@brickbros-m41a]

can you give me a link where to buy the motors and remote/esc plz!

[@123clis321]

I accidentally ordered the RTR. Do the kit vs RTR have the same diff?

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy!! Yes, the RTR and kit have the same diffs on this model. If you ever want to upgrade the RTR you will be fine, it's the same overall. You could get a nice 180 size motor on ebay for a few bucks too. That's the main difference, the Kit has a 180 size motor, the RTR has a 130 size. Still good for the money.

[@carmen_playz_2112]

how come the stock rear plastic drive shafts last longer than the front

[@Raptorsirrationalinventions]

do you have a video on the shimming, my c24 is skipping and it seems to be diff related

[@hybrid32494]

hello, don't have a video on this yet, I will make one soon, within the week. Good idea, thanks.

[@ryanvarner8936]

this is the best review of these trucks i have seen. i got the kit and was bummed at first knowing that there one one that was reassembled and about the same cost but after watching this i can see i made the right choice.

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! thanks for watching!! The kit is definetly a better choice overall, I agree. The WPL b36 truck is even better, it's the best WPL so far. Check my channel for videos on it, the RTR model is incredible and already had all the good things you want, including metal gears.

[@ryanvarner8936]

​@@hybrid32494 I Have mine assembled and have ordered a controller and speed control (things that didnt come with the kit.) i really want to try and change the gearing to something super low just by modding the stock gear box. ( im thinking like the Marlin TacoBox in real life) You think its do-able? Im sure ill end up getting metal drive shafts at some point. if you havent seen a tacobox- check out the slowest tacoma in the world. gear reduction is at 580:1

[@305_cowboy]

I want to get one of these but I come from the 1/10th cars so can anyone explain to me what esc and receiver I need I already have a controller from a 1/10th can I use it?

[@hybrid32494]

hello, you can use and remote and receiver. You will need a smaller scale cheaper brushed ESC, the one I used in this video is a common one and cost 5 bucks. Very good quality and has forward brake and reverse. Check gearbest.com Ill include the line to the one I used. www.gearbest.com/multi-rotor-parts/pp_180563.html?wid=1433363

[@305_cowboy]

hybrid32494 thank you

[@BoyJorgey]

do you think a bigger sized motor will fit on it?

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy! This chassis is setup to run at most a 180 size motor in this stock configuration. There are upgraded transmission and motor cases that come with larger can motors, so the answer is yes, but only if you get the motor upgrade kit with the housing itself.

[@BoyJorgey]

Ohh that's interesting 🤔 was thinking of buying this cheapo kit and building it to a proper crawler. I already have the electronics but I was doubting if my 4300KV motor will fit on it. Thanks for the info. Cheers!

[@idworkhard]

right on about the spacers. I should have bought some spacers for mine...I too struggled with the diff gears skipping. To the list of weakness I would add the plastic gears and nonmetal driveshaft. I stripped mine with a) loose diff gear, b) too muhc power from a 2S lipo 45c.

[@hybrid32494]

The other issue about the driveshafts is the angle they drop from the trans to the gears. IT seems to bind a lot, you can notice when you spin one wheel with your hand, and it seems to already be locked or binding. Otherwise the u joins constantly pop on my KIT using the 2S lipo as you say.

[@helmermagnusson4094]

Has the KIT car the stock motor??

[@hybrid32494]

hello, YES, this exact RC in this video has the stock motor included with the kit. That means it's a 180 size motor. The RTR models have 130 size motors.

[@jonnyasprin]

I just bought the military truck with the snow tracks,I wonder how well the tracks would work in the tug of war.

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude. I tried out tracks on a different model, they suck. I gotta admit I had the wrong model and they were not mounted well. But from what I saw from other vids the tracks take alot of the motor's torque to just move. That's why they all look so slow and barely drivable when they got the tracks. Maybe your model is better, lets hope.

[@jonnyasprin]

hybrid32494 I like the wheels better,the tracks are cool and work awesome but I’ll need the right terrain to use them.

[@Richpope87]

What is puportional steering I’ve never heard of that

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy!!. Proportional steering is when you turn the steering wheel on the remote and it doesn't go full LEFT - RIGHT instantly. Meaning you can do a little turn or a big turn, it is "proportional" to the way you actually steer with the remote. all hobby grade RC cars have this type f steering setup..

[@ellisberry8747]

Does the kit come with lipo?

[@hybrid32494]

hello, the kit does not come with a battery. The only electronics the kit comes with is a servo and motor. IF you get the RTR version it will come with a rechargeable battery.

[@ellisberry8747]

hybrid32494 I've got the rtr now but have ordered the kit for spares

[@1994RALLY]

What one should I get so I can just put together and hit the trails

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude. get the KIT, this truck is quite good for the money especially if you like upgrades and stuff like that. Depends how much money you're looking too spend, for an entry style realistic crawler this would be ok. Ofcourse there are others that cost lots more.

[@ryanvarner8936]

i just bought the same esc you showed in the video and the plugs dont match up. any advise of wiring diagram for how to wire it?

[@islandspec326]

Have you made an axle vid yet? I tried shimming mine on my RTR and it still sounds like it's skipping. Still putting together my kit version and want to build it right the first time.

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude, so about the shims. It's a temporary fix, as I have learned from experience. The issue is the plastic gear is just not sitting to tight on the shaft. Either-way I got a good upgrade to fix this. Video coming soon. I got their metal diff gear set, so hopefully it will fix it all, only cost bout 13 bucks.

[@Amits1981]

what do you mean by " Full throttle" it only have full speed or off nothing between

[@hybrid32494]

The Kit C14 has fully proportional throttle and steering. I used my own electronics in the KIT model.

[@rigelrogers6403]

Can u make a custom tray/flatbed for one

[@hybrid32494]

You can pretty much come up with a lot of options for these, the rear is flat if you remove the tire and tire mount. That sounds like a great flat bed tow truck, if the weigh distribution is good.

[@Ziggy8750]

Great video bro I'm going to have to watch the rest of them. I plan on building one of these kits for my four year old

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy!!, so have you gotten one of these so far? The RTR is really not a bad choice honestly. You can always convert the RTR to run any electronics like the kit version too. If you can get a cheap RTR first, I would do that. I started off with a cheap RTR, liked it, and eventually got another kit model..

[@DENSUTUBE2008]

No one seems to be able to get the lights to work if they use a different ESC......

[@hybrid32494]

yep, the wiring it totally different. The stock wiring on the lights will only work with the stock RTR ESC board. Although you could solder on different connectors and just plug it in to the esc if you have a separate power lead attached.

[@joecachia2]

you can use the electronics in a used servo to make a switch and control LEDs via third channel. lots of videos on it. or you can use a small separate lipo just for the LEDS or something like that.

[@coreyf117]

why not remove the connector and run the light wires one to the neg one to the pos on the motor

[@mjhprojects321]

I believe that more parts are available I just purchased metal drive shafts for the c14

[@hybrid32494]

yes, I saw the metal drive shafts. Let me know if you still have the diff skipping issue. It seems the plastic gears themselves have not stripped in mine, but they are just not meshing well enough. Let me know if you have the same issue with the metal parts.

[@panzerwolf494]

It's not so much the weight that causes the back end to bounce. It's the suspension. The two trucks have a soft suspension so if the tires let go, all that bounces is the wheel so it can regrab whereas the army truck starts bouncing and the whole truck bounces so the tires can't keep in contact enough to grab

[@reddog5753]

you can get the soft tires for $6 free shipping on eBay.

[@hybrid32494]

hello!!, YES I saw, also on gear best.com. I honestly don't like gluing the soft rubber tires, so sticking to not upgrading them on the RTR so far. But the kit I show here does have the soft tires, and they are too soft, so soft that they literally need to be glued or they just come off the rim.

[@reddog5753]

sounds like they need beadlock rims

[@hybrid32494]

OR alot of super glue, ahahaha. I hate gluing tires, always a disaster. But these seem to be ok after I glued two of them.

[@flowki7105]

Mine was the RTR and it has the same motor as the kit

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy! what's up! Yes, the newer versions are much better equipped these days, this video is pretty old and back then the C14 Kit was one of the best ones you could get. Even the WPL b36 was only coming to the market back then, you know.

[@weshickey3498]

I just got an rtr and it came with the bigger motor, metal gears and a 2s lipo. I was surprised.

[@ssrc30]

There's lots of affordable upgrade parts for these models. They're really great little kits.

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy!! you're right, I've since gotten alot of stuff for this one, a winch, a smoke generator and metal gears.

[@supastihl89]

I see that spacer keeping them gears tight. Really good vid bro. Gotta get all my parts in only have my c14 and b24 and need diff covers for b24 before I can build it.

[@hybrid32494]

Id really like to fig out a way to improve the steering geometry on the C14 kit. Have you noticed the way the steering link connects to the servo arm is not great when it is turning, causes the whole suspension to move along with it.

[@DKGamer-cn7qg]

It’s very cool) I like hill climb)

[@nomusicrc]

Nice comparison

[@hybrid32494]

thanks man! I still have all these WPLs btw. My favorite one is the B36 URAL, because it's RTR, has proportion steering, metal gears in the diffs and comes with an ok battery. Plus the 6WD is highly realistic.

[@nomusicrc]

@@hybrid32494 6wd nice

[@supastihl89]

Metal links available on ebay

[@nhutnguyen6982]

Hooptie Rides&Reviews fhdwsds

[@pheonixlevel1744]

Oh yeah yeah, look at that

[@hybrid32494]

YEAHHHH!! LOL. thanks for watching!!!

[@moabezell1028]

Awesome video

[@hybrid32494]

thanks dude!!

[@Kyelyman425]

Wish has tons of parts for this truck that's where I get all mine

[@hybrid32494]

hey man, YES, they do. Thanks for watching. I prefer to use bang good usually because it's reliable and some of the stuff ships from the USA.

[@Kyelyman425]

I love you videos bro keep it up brotha

[@johnkealohafero8900]

So the kit is the way to go huh

[@hybrid32494]

hello, the kit is the best choice because you would only need some cheap basic electronics to make this a pretty hobby grade truck. The steering on the stock one is a disaster. You can buy the RTR and convert that one too, btw.

[@johnkealohafero8900]

@@hybrid32494 does it come with a remote ?

[@steveninman1765]

I bought one rtr off ebay and it is garbage. It showed up with most of the screws about to fall out and the front differential broke on the first drive. Looks cool, but that's all its good for. I bought this so my daughter could drive something while my son and i play with our hobby grade crawlers..... ill never buy something like this again. Do yourself a favor and just buy a redcat or something. It may cost a little more but still beats the big name brand prices and actually lasts a while before something breaks!!!!!

[@hybrid32494]

hey buddy!! sorry you had a tough time with this RC. I actually got two redcat Rc's too. Not bad. I think you just had a run of bad luck with your purchase. I literally have 2 RTR models and one kit, all have been fine, other than one has a skipping diff.

[@codycalvert3049]

If fliped because you let off the gas and then punched it

[@Speedycat]

i've just gotten me the GAZ 66 model of these WPL's On the pictures the Kit and RTR of the Gaz look completly the same, i've ordered me an ESC so i can swap the rest of the electronics too might need to order me a Kit version of it too to see if they are different too :) (got a video of it on my chanel)

[@hybrid32494]

I'll check out your video!!!. The kit is different only with regard to tires and missing electronics, but servo is included. Best idea is to get the cheaper RTR models and just use your own electronics if you have them.

[@Speedycat]

thx :-) i can live with the harder tires :) , allready ordered me a small ESC as everything i had laying arround is designed for 540 motors wich is pretty overkill and doesnt fit inside the Cab :D by the looks of the advert pictures only the C14 Kit got the 180 Motor. I've looked at a couple of Videos now and i guess mine came with a week battery, you can hear the motor struggeling as soon as i start steering but i dont want to kill the original electronics with a 2S lipo (i got an old Nikko RC car that could use this electronics as it's 27MHz unit is broken)

[@hybrid32494]

btw, you cant run a 2S lipo in the original RTR form, it won't turn on, I tried it. And yes the C14 kit does have the 180 motor, and it is more torquey, but speed is the same as the smaller RTR model. When I was mounting the motor the housing cracked a little, seems ok still. I got some cheap 180 motors on eBay with higher RPM, will try those out soon too.

[@thedeere1012]

I would just get the rtr and upgrade with a bigger engine and metal shafts and diffs

[@mjhprojects321]

I never had that issue

[@hybrid32494]

hello!, do you mean the drive shaft popping out?

[@АнастасияГлаголева-е8б]

Привет, Дима! Когда ты снимешь видео про монтаж видео?

[@hybrid32494]

hello! I will soon make one just for you, thanks for watching!!!

[@wufky4010]

does his voice remind anyone else of Christopher walken?

[@hybrid32494]

LOL, hey bro! you're not the first one to say that, you're 100% right, ahahahaha.

[@Ikaynenon]

Looks cool

[@flowki7105]

But different battery

[@mjhprojects321]

No the skipping

[@christianjayg.tejamo5542]

The b1 is better if it's moded

[@hybrid32494]

which mods?

[@howardalteisen2281]

Rtr is for kids. Kits is for adult. But you can uprage the RTR. Its still the same of kit

[@hybrid32494]

Xmod Evo hey man! Thanks for watching! You have xmods? (Asking bc of your username) I used to have a few, mostly the evo models. Loved them, to bad radio shack cut the whole line. I have a video on here of a nissan titan evo model.

[@howardalteisen2281]

@@hybrid32494 yeah i have xmods and mini z. Only the Barricade is left to me and a hammer. I kept them for the future. I like the chassis of xmod than miniZ. But my xmods chassis are brittle now i havent seen a metal part now

[@howardalteisen2281]

@@hybrid32494 i have a RTR c24 its better that the first edition c14. Coz it has a metal diff gear on the axle and the rubber is not too soft and not too hard. And the steering still not propo but the annoying sound when you steer is gone.. im starting upgrading it to a metal. all i need now is the electronics.

[@hybrid32494]

Xmod Evo About the xmods, b4 they discontinued them radio shack was selling all them for 15 bucks, great deal, i got like three back then. With the motor and gearing upgrades abd lights they were nice!! Never got a mini-z, too much money for that scale. Todays wltoys k989 will rip them both i think.

[@hybrid32494]

Xmod Evo Sounds like the c24 is better. Watch my newest video on my channel about these. I showed the new mn-90 vs all wpl. The wpl b36 ural is the best so far.

[@akr2826]

You are not supposed to go full throttle while crawling the hill

[@trackpackgt877]

Too many commercials next to vid

[@ltdan2001]

Got one for 10 buck on FB market place. Not bad.

[@hybrid32494]

oh ye, you got it at the total bottom of the depreciation curve lol. I guess the WPL toyota trucks depreciate way faster than the real toyota hi-lux, ahaha.

[@flowki7105]

My rc C14 was 62$