WPL Leaf Spring Suspension Upgrade Vs Stock. B1 B24 Flex. Review & Test

[@SeventyRS]

Another great informative video . Thanks for testing all of the things you do on your channel. I've just recently begun to get into the WPL and similar brands of RC in the smaller scales. I've always had what might be called (here in the USA anyway) mainstream 1/10, 1/8 scale bashers and crawlers from the "brand names". These smaller and less expensive cars and trucks are great for a number of reasons. Lower cost, great selection of hop up parts and spares. Lots of options for custom building to fit a specific project or just to improve durability. Channels like yours are invaluable to me as I get to see what works best on certain models. I love driving them but equally love building them. After watching your tire test with the rtr, kit and wheel weights I've decided to upgrade my C24 with weighted tires and the gearbox. And I just ordered the steering servo upgrade (I have the rtr with the crap steering servo and radio). Thanks again, please keep those videos coming! 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Really appreciate the comment dude. There are not many large(ish) channels that get the opportunity to test these out. I enjoy being in a position to do so! 😎

[@Del350K4]

What a difference those springs make! 20-odd years ago my wife & I each had a leaf-sprung Lightweight Land Rover, and a set of parabolic springs was right up at the top of my wish-list, second only to a set of gnarly tyres. I loved the way you gave us a view of each system in operation - great job!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude, His and Hers Landys! 😎..... I only realised half way through recording that I had a stock one to compare, so went back and re done some of the video lol. I've been out in the Garden today with it again, lots of fun! 👍

[@Del350K4]

@@TomleyRC It was very noble of you to go back and redo some footage so we got to compare the two directly. I did wonder how you managed to get that terrific shot of the two trucks climbing the ramp together, driving both trucks and filming at the same time. After much thought I concluded that you must have three hands. I trust this assumption is valid? I´ll be interested to see what weighty solution you come up with for the rear body on this lifted truck : )

[@MarkBryanRC]

A very impressive climb at the beginning, Phil! Great overview and fitting of the new springs, good to see the comparison run at the end, too. Thumbs up mate! : )

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Mark, it does give it just that little bit extra performance 👍

[@3Y3ECE]

I cant wait to pick up some WPL rigs for my growing 1/16th collection!! Great vids, as always, love these upgrade vids too. Thanks for what you do!

[@STEVOD313]

The climb looks legit to me bro, keep up the great videos, the leaf springs r also a nice scale detail

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Stevo... appreciate the support. The original climb was just to test the tyres. I wanted to do a full climb to show it's true capabilities, mad to think it's a $40 truck! lol

[@sulemanshaikh1200]

@@TomleyRC do these trucks have lock diff,s

[@mickenoss]

I recently bought and upgraded a B24, some lessons I learned... If you upgrade the plastic frame parts to the aluminium ones the extra weight will bottom out the upgraded suspension - to the point of bending it out of shape. You can fix the problem by trimming the old suspension to create leaf suspension and doubling up, it's stiffer but doesn't deform. The steering arm is a nightmare, get the threaded bar upgrade and bend it as needed. I would recommend minimum upgrades, the truck comes in pretty good shape as standard now. I found the more I upgraded it the more I needed to upgrade it lol. Even the 370 motor upgrade isn't enough if you upgrade to metal everything, keep it light. The truck runs well straight out of the box tbh, don't bother fiddling with the thing unless you know what you are doing. Paint it however you like, I went full upgrade mode and wish I hadn't. It runs just as well unmolested. =)

[@pellesomethingsomething]

Thanks for the under car working suspension shots, very helpful :)

[@TomleyRC]

You are welcome

[@Br0rB]

Got these yesterday, exactly three years after you posted the video (so I don't expect you to see this comment any time soon). Another nice video, and will definitely be helpful when I get around to installing them. Also got the upgraded metal lower springs and metal spring mounts for the axle. Hopefully it'll help with articulation, and not be as stiff as the stock stuff. Running metal axles already, and RES V3. Dually wheels in the back, stock wheels with weights in the front.

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds like it’s gonna be awesome! This is still one of my favourite WPLs 👌

[@Br0rB]

@@TomleyRC we're going to the Norwegian mountains with some friends to stay at their cabin this weekend. Bringing the B24, and the upgrades, with me, as well as a couple of Hobby Plus CR24s. Going to check how well they do in deep snow. 😂

[@BeardedRC]

Yeah that looks a beast with the new shocks on! Love the music at the end too 🇬🇧

[@TomleyRC]

A little bit of early 1900's :)

[@bambolbee130]

loving those new suspension, b24 looks great

[@minbajunid]

Whoaa.. That aged UN truck. I like that. You weathered it yourself? Nice review on the suspension. I thought of upgrading mine.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude, Yes...the UN one I painted myself. I reviewed the stock B24 a few months back and decided to go for the weathered UN truck .

[@minbajunid]

@@TomleyRC good move and great work on weathering. Keep it going Tommy

[@petersmith6423]

@@TomleyRC Man that weathering is top notch, a video on that would be awesome, new sub....

[@TomleyRC]

@@petersmith6423 I've been asked before about it, so I think I'll do one soon. Cheers for the support 👍

[@aljensen7779]

Wow, no contest for the upgrade! The old one looks like a puppy still learning its feet.

[@potatopower4026]

My friend I must compliment you again on another fabulous video as long as you're spot-on. Informational you don't waste a lot of time rambling about your neighbor's cat lol or hogging the limelight front of the camera. after watching several of your videos I'm thinking about getting those wheel weights myself although I'm still not too sure because I'm thinking about upgrading to the fayee style wheels and tires that come off of their version of the d90 but we will see as far as my c24 project is concerned haven't really been doing much myself I keep tinkering around with the steering and trying to lift it and lower it finding different ways to mount the body I did get the metal gear box but I think I'm going to upgrade to the two speed and add metal gears that way I have the choice between the slow crawling speed and a Quicker top speed gear depending on my mood. I also added an extra link to my front suspension like the new wpl c34 has to help keep the suspension lined up. Anyway that's all for now always a pleasure to see your videos my friend best wishes from the oven, Arizona US

[@TomleyRC]

Cheer dude, appreciate the support and nice comments. The Wheel weights make a big difference, but won't fit anything else without mods. You can get a full metal 2 speed gearbox + gears now I believe. Arizona is somewhere I never got to visit whilst over in the US. May be one day. 👍

[@leevincal]

great video, the upgrade defo works giving more clearance for obstacles

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@zimmzttocs]

Thanks.. answered my questions.. Buying them

[@brsrc759]

Just ordered a set. The steering would do a lot better if you connected the servo link to the passenger side wheel. The further the servo is from the wheel it is steering, the less bump steer and other issues you will come across

[@DrBernard989]

It would be very nice if WPL made higher spec models that included all these upgrades from the start.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I expect people would pay a little extra for the upgraded ones, I certainly would 👍

[@bromleysmakeityourselfrc2853]

This kit is pretty good but not perfect, the washers are a must or the ears sit wonky on the frame. It’s a shame your kit did not come with them! However you seemed to have this solved problem👍 looks great!

[@RCModSquad]

Nice upgrade. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@RCModSquad]

Tomley RC You’re welcome!

[@gabrielpichardo1492]

You can probably make angle correcting blocks to help fix the drive shaft angle

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, that would help a little, probably 3D printing them is the easiest way.

[@MrE.]

Great climb, I wouldn't have believed it without seeing it! It seems we have quite a similar experience with the springs but where I got washers,it seems you got different hardware - any chance you can check if it's M2,2.5 or 3?

[@TomleyRC]

I'll try and get a look later, I think it's M2

[@jmbeniopa]

Great setup! what camera are you using to capture below the chassis?

[@INMGRC]

Wow very nice test video big thumbs up my friend XD

[@doomracing5527]

İ like the look of thouse trucks. Kinda like a unimog. Love my Axial 6x6.

[@didactylos4diddy474]

Interesting. Those new leafs look like semi-parabolics which, if they are, should give you more travel and softer running. Reversing the fronts _may_ make it more prone to backflip in extremis as it tends to ping the nose up rather than down. Shouldn't really be a problem on that truck though.

[@TomleyRC]

I tried them the other way around, and it just didn't look right...or feel right. These now give the truck a bit more flexibility, and more ground clearance. Thanks for watching. 👍

[@didactylos4diddy474]

@@TomleyRC You have to go with what you feel is right and it certainly looks good in the tests

[@danphillips3297]

💯🔥Good climb man

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Dan

[@danphillips3297]

🤙🏻

[@RC1oNeTV]

What a interesting video my friend~!!👍😁👍

[@Indy64738]

Hi pal, A bit hard and bouncy for crawling? Interesting though

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Love your videos keep up good work wat h them all

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

Now that's a legit nice springs. I can finally replace the easily broken stock springs 😂. (I've broken the front leaf springs of my jjrc 2x now lol)

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, they are quite easy to brake, I'e gone through a bout 5 or 6. These will hopefully last longer 😎

[@leirameirarc]

I just installed the new metal leaf springs on my B24ZH, following your instructions Tomley. They seem pretty nice, but tend to lock up in the rear at the back and on the front where the articulation is.... has this happened to yours? Your kit appears very shiny where as mine looks like matte machined aluminium, the edges are sharp...perhaps that´s why I am having problems with them getting stuck when I push down on the vehicle.

[@TomleyRC]

Maybe you have them a little tight? Do they sit flush on the chassis? I filed the plastic chassis brace to move the leaf spring mount in a little. If they are off set slightly they may stick.

[@leirameirarc]

@@TomleyRC the plastic chassis braces are shite. The original screws wont even hold fast anymore, some of them are falling out. I have replaced some with various screws I had laying around but there is still that problem of the articulated parts of the metal leaf setup locking in down position.... I think I may have to buy those metal braces to make it work... Will post photos of how it looks now in WPL RC soon. PErhaps you could show me what you mean by filing the chassis brace down to move the spring mount inwards, I can´t quite picture it in my head. Thanks for your quick reply mate!

[@340jd]

Great video. What do you do with stock suspension to free it up?

[@TomleyRC]

You can get some slightly longer screws, and only screw them in half way. There is also a mod you can do with a paperclip to make some shackles...can't find the video though

[@totoordonez2300]

Beautiful truck sir, can you please tell me the wheelbase of this truck? Thank you.

[@harrisonpaige1594]

I’m also running 2 1s 850 mah lipos in the fuel tanks that come with the kit

[@TomleyRC]

Good idea!

[@harrisonpaige1594]

Hey thanks yeah it looks really great and keeps with the scale look. I realized the b24 did not have a ton of room for clean wiring so I did that mod really easy just side snip 2spots

[@skdzgameplays2078]

@Tomley whats your thoughts on maybe using WPL leaf springs on the LDRC P06? as ive received mine and seeing the poor points in it? thoughts??

[@kingofthehill7363]

@Tomley RC What rod ends did you use? Do you have a link? Thanks!

[@TomleyRC]

I had some in my spares box

[@RCWithPopeye]

Thanks for the review. I wondered if they are of any good.

[@TomleyRC]

They are a nice addition. I've been driving it today, and it's really nice, had to tighten it all up a bit, but runs good now!

[@topqualityfi8216]

I wish they would make something like that to mn82 rear leaf

[@WCPRCModelsCraft]

Buying those for sure :)

[@TomleyRC]

They are pretty good looking...as well as functional!

[@TheMitsosBlog]

I didn't get what you did with the steering rod. If I use a metal pull rod set will I still have the same issues?

[@SteadfastRC]

Do you know of any way To gear down the JJRC Q 65 Something like What this vehicle in your video is running It seems a lot lower gear than the q 65

[@TomleyRC]

The new WPL gearbox/motor that are in this truck, 'Should' fit the jeep, but at the moment it doesn't seem to be available separate from the trucks. 👍

[@maddogrc7910]

I still want to be the proud owner of the upgraded wpl👍😂

[@martinwhitehurst9893]

Hey, did you put the new leaf springs on top of the original plastic ones? Or did you remove them all and just added the new ones?

[@TomleyRC]

Completely removed the old ones.

[@8urgerkingfoot931]

Does these work with my WPL Q60?

[@TomleyRC]

WPL didn't make a Q60. Do you mean JJRC? They should work yes

[@8urgerkingfoot931]

Yes sorry i ment the Jjrc. Thanks very much. Im very much enjoying your videos. 🤘🤘

[@scannaunderscore1]

These are so good for cheap

[@michaelramsey82]

Looking at getting these. Would it be possible to bring the height back down closer to stock by mounting the leafs to the bottom of the axles instead of the top?

[@rafitritama]

What is the Best cheap rc clawler? (Waterproof)

[@TomleyRC]

Quite a few to choose from, I'm not an expert on the Crawlers. I like the Axial SCX10 myself.

[@rafitritama]

100-140 dollar?? What clawler I got

[@robsonmenezes1006]

Muito bom o vídeo amigo, está bem realista 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤩😍

[@martinwhitehurst9893]

see how when you just let the truck with the new springs sit with out moving it up or down.... the shackles are not in the compressed or articulated position. My shackles are always pushed out and the truck is just sitting there. can you help?

[@TomleyRC]

Have you tried tightening the little fixings?

[@UnwrappingByMimiKoteng]

8:41 can link the cam u using for this view?

[@TomleyRC]

GoPro Hero Session 5

[@lastxp]

How does leave springs compare to linkages and oil springs?

[@TomleyRC]

I like the old school look and feel of leafs, but in reality, it is not the most functional of set ups.

[@Sam610]

My son has wpl model...would that work on that? Stupid thing keeps un poping out

[@TomleyRC]

It will work on the B1 & B24 Chassis 👍

[@calvinhuddleston576]

hmm, wonder if theres any way i can fix my old wpl c14, tried to waterproof it and tested it and it was fine at first but im pretty sure the motor broke, the receivers just fine because the lights turn on and the wheels still turn but the motor was making some really unhealthy grinding noises before it ultimately bit the dust

[@abednegohamonangan]

Hello Sir, Can I use this setup shock for WPL C14/24 ?

[@TomleyRC]

No, they are different shocks

[@KibsRC]

Oh yeah, nice. 👍😃👍

[@TomleyRC]

I'd love to drive it down that creek of yours! Thanks for watching. Hope that Drift car is looking good!

[@LCMNUNES1962]

PERFEITO 👍👍👍 🇧🇷

[@jesscneal]

What camera are you using for the chassis shots?

[@TomleyRC]

GoPro Hero Session 5 👍

[@timbonjovi]

I just bought one of these, is that with a 180 motor?

[@TomleyRC]

Should be of its the kit version

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

I bought on sat it on the group d and it drove 2ft and axels and drive shafts striped out any ad ice

[@TomleyRC]

These newer ones have metal gears, which are much better. The plastic ones do strip out unfortunately. Metal gears and metal shafts are not that expensive. 👍

[@ПолКило-с8х]

Хорошо. Надо попробовать. Штатная подвеска слишком жесткая

[@rcnoob6231]

Will these work on the on the c14 or c24?

[@TomleyRC]

No, these are just for the B Chassis.

[@kevingilroy]

What's the wheel base?

[@rcmodify921]

nice video.

[@TomleyRC]

Thank you

[@jasonsmithsrrcfun9259]

Do you use metal drive lines

[@TomleyRC]

Not in this video, but do usually

[@izzatamir1313]

what motor u use

[@TomleyRC]

B36 Motor and Gearbox

[@jimr1raptor]

Nice

[@wise--men]

Show!

[@donPirata13]

What's the point Os a suspension that don't flex? I have 4 wpl trucks and in all of them I modified leafs for having full wheel contact in a cross axle situation over leve terrain. Otherway suspension is useless. What I see in the video is pointless. Except for the angles I can't see any improvement in suspension. Sorry.

[@kamran9195]

It's bends more than a banana

[@TomleyRC]

😂

[@brapppstar2314]

do you have any of these spare mate? prntscr.com/my170i thanks for the vids :)

[@TomleyRC]

I'm not sure, I'm building a couple of trailers, so have used some for that. 👍

[@brapppstar2314]

@@TomleyRC ok mate np i 3d print one and if you need any give us a shout i send some down :)

[@calvinhuddleston576]

hmm, wonder if theres any way i can fix my old wpl c14, tried to waterproof it and tested it and it was fine at first but im pretty sure the motor broke, the receivers just fine because the lights turn on and the wheels still turn but the motor was making some really unhealthy grinding noises before it ultimately bit the dust