WPL Metal Transfer Box & 370 Motor [ Installed in a B24 ]

[@AICS-Vizion]

Really thanks for this video, it was all what i was looking for

[@MrE.]

You're welcome!

[@earthonemason]

Props for mentioning flipping that back axle man I could not for the life of me figure out why both wheels were going inward

[@MrE.]

You're welcome, my friend!

[@miningwayne935]

When assembling the box you made a mistake.. the pinion gear on the output shaft should be the other way around so more of the short end of the shaft should protrude from the box. This enables you to have both drive shafts running off the same output and in the same direction...then you do not have to flip the differential over! It also makes the rear driveshaft angle far less acute going to the rear diff.

[@MrE.]

I would have loved to use it that way but there wasn't enough shaft on the motor to secure the pinion in the other orientatiion iirc.

[@miningwayne935]

@@MrE. no, it's the pinion on the OUTPUT shaft needs to be turned around, so the grub screw end is against the housing...that will move the shaft about another 5mm out of the box, so there's room to put your driveshaft on. That's how mine is. The gears won't be fully engaged either, in the configuration you have it in.

[@MrE.]

@@miningwayne935 Do the pinions line up after swapping that ones direction?

[@miningwayne935]

@@MrE. it should...mine did

[@bannanapancake]

This is a noob question, but why do I see some guys put the driveline in the top of the output shaft and some in the bottom?? Is that the whole gear reduction thing? Torque? Cause I built up a c14 with a tube frame and the same motor seems underpowered like this motor isn’t strong enough to get me over simpler things, feels like it’s barley enough to handle its own weight sometimes. Both my drivelines are on the same output shaft as I see yours is hooked up on the top and not the bottom output shaft I know my problem is not driveline binding.. so I need to hook the drive lines up different to the motor? I don’t want speed the slower the better for me I appreciate it;)

[@MrE.]

That sounds quite odd especially if the motors the same. All of the gear reduction is done in the gearing cylinder part that is attached to the motor. The transfer case with the outputs on is 1:1:1. The reason some put it on different outputs is to get the right driveshaft rotation without needing to flip an axle. On one of mine I put front and rear driveshafts on the same resulting in the front and rear end went in opposite was which is kinda funny. Mine is unstoppable with this motor/gearing - wonder if vendors have changed the motor/gearing over the last couple of years - this one was a premium original motor and transfer case. How slow/fast is your C14 with this motor?

[@bannanapancake]

@@MrE. thanks for the response, after watching a few videos I see how the top output shaft spins the opposite way, it’s not terribly fast I don’t have any fancy tech for it, but I would imagine top speed is around 30-40 scale mph

[@Nabhaanibrahim16]

Hellooo! Got a question! I have that 370 2 speed gearbox you know. Do i need a bigger battery esc radio etc to get 3s or will the existing setup in my wpl c24 (7.4v 2s battery) work fine.

[@MrE.]

I've only ever used it on a 2S and never had the thought of moving it to 3S, these would last longer on 2S than I could crawl for. I have the 2 speed box in my MN90 on the channel iirc.

[@Nabhaanibrahim16]

@@MrE. Hmm.. ok thanks

[@teslahurmadali3214]

Hi, ı want to buy for b24. As I understand, ı have to change 10a esc, battery (7.4 2s lippo) and metal drive shaft. Do I have to change transmitter ? Do ı need anything else ? thank you.

[@MrE.]

If you have the RTR B24 version you will need a transmitter setup inc servo as the onboard electronics are not reusable. I'd also get the 20/30A esc as it's exactly the same cost from memory. That being said, take a look at my other videos, more specifically the 2 speed box upgrade as its a much better upgrade than this - this is very slow where as the 2speed box is both good for crawling with lots of power but can switch to high speed.

[@javit9361]

Can that motor be used with a 1/12 scale MN-90 defender?

[@MrE.]

It can & will be very torquey albeit a bit sluggish but I'd advise using a 2 speed box. see the playlist linked in the ( i ) top right as I have gone through pretty much every motor / combo for both WPL & MN stuff.

[@michaoskwarek3135]

Hi. Did you chang the assamby of rear axis to the same shaft which front axis is connected? Because if it assambles as on your movie it can not run, because front wheels will turn forward and rear backward. Or you have some additional gearbox? I have the same gearbox and I it only works when both axis were connected to the upper shaft of the gearbox.

[@MrE.]

Once assembled I had both axles going the wrong way like you, but just flipped the rear one upside down & that rectified the rotations (still on different output shafts at the transfer case).

[@olegnemcov8079]

Здравствуйте товарищи, пожалуйста помогите разобраться мне в электронике и 370 ом моторе на шишиге 1:16. Поставил 370 мотор на стандартную аппаратуру, просто фишки поменял, а мотор очень медленно едет, даже медленнее стандартного. Почему так?

[@cropduster502]

What is the output RPM fom that 370 reduction box?

[@MrE.]

There was no info on the output rpm from memory but it feels between 500-1000 approx. It's much faster than the N20 & N30s I had previously which were 300 & 500rpm respectively. Upon a quick search this is apparently 980rpm on the motors reduction gearbox & there is no ratio change in the transfer case. Hope this helps!

[@MinutemanOutdoors]

Did you upgrade the esc and receiver too?

[@MrE.]

I started out with the kit and went straight to this brushed esc: bit.ly/2KfurBx & a Flysky radio setup. I've had the esc running a 180, dual N20\N30's and now it runs the 370 fine powerd by a 2S Lipo, also have them running a C14 and other stuff quite happily. I have a growing playlist documenting my journey with the WPLs here if your intrested: kzbin.info/aero/PLqV89ugQ3QnkKYOrJjfAYV2AL20s0Oczq

[@hughstratton8767]

is it faster than stock now ?

[@MrE.]

Yes

[@arvindgautam6957]

Will the gear box will fit in wpl c24

[@MrE.]

I just paired it up with a C14 chassis I have and it'll certainly fit but you may have to trim a little plastic of the electronics tray etc.

[@arvindgautam6957]

Ok bro

[@kokhowe]

Did you have to solder any capacitor between the motor connection?

[@MrE.]

I have not soldered a cap on the motor however I think my ESC has one.

[@theavyvatanak8999]

Can I use stock drive shaft (plastic) with 370 motor?

[@MrE.]

You might be able to jerry rig them to "fit" but even on the stock 130/180 motors they were popping all the time - they are a friction fit at both ends and just a slip fit in the middle.

[@tekayvoong5545]

I bought the motor fully assembled but I need to put in the longer shaft. How do you remove the grub screws?

[@MrE.]

A small Hex wrench, the case should be easy to open and locate the pinion to move to the longer shaft.

[@tekayvoong5545]

@@MrE. I can’t remove the gears in the smaller shaft. I need to put it on the bigger one.

[@MrE.]

@@tekayvoong5545 Should just be a single grub screw and it will slide off, If the grub screw is too tight you could prehaps heat it up to break the threadlock if it has it etc. Should be realy easy to change.

[@tekayvoong5545]

@@MrE. What’s the size of the pinion gear for the motor? I want to try and fit a better motor on the gearbox.

[@MrE.]

@@tekayvoong5545 It's just a standard 21T pinion (from memory) to fit a 3mm~ motor shaft but something to consider is this box takes 3 identical pinions. You could possibly fit a different pinion on the motor but you will have to make sure you have a bit of room for the motor to move in either direction depending on what size pinion you are changing to. You may be better with one of the 2 pinion boxes which are coupled with a stubby input shaft to the motor that is mounted in a bracket. That way you can gear the drivetrain with an appropriate motor rather than trying to juggle a motor with a reduction box, an input pinion and 2 meshing output pinions. Hope this helps.

[@TW39]

Can I use a 380 brushed motor on the gearbox

[@MrE.]

Can't see why not if hte mouning lines up and you have the space!

[@Cryptazz666]

How much better is it than the n20/30s? I'm currently assembling mine using them :)

[@MrE.]

The n20/30's are very capable for crawling but I found their drawback was fragility when driving in alot of loose twigs that bound up the drivetrain. however I may just have been the usual unlucky one as always! I did enjoy their upgrade immensly for crawling preceeding the 370 as you may have seen in previous vids of my onging saga with this WPL addiction. The 370 and transfer box is night and day more robust, reliable & obviously alot more powerful. I'd advise getting a spare n20/30 to keep you going in the event of a "mishap". Another tip that helped me was wiring them with connectors to swap out quickly.

[@Cryptazz666]

I did order a second set of motors just incase. My build aims at low center of gravity. Everything heavier from the bottom of the chassis. I just have to adjust the drives aft angles a bit. Thank you for the response!

[@MrE.]

@@Cryptazz666 You're welcome! Wise to have the spares handy for any of our hobbys. I have seen people wrap Solder around their rims to give a bit lower CG that I'm considering depending how my fully builts handle in the comming season.

[@Cryptazz666]

That's a really good idea! I'm using rc4wd 1.0 rims and their scrambler tires. Just need to get a hex adapter printed. I may try the kit tires and try weighing them down. My 20a esc burnt out using a 2s lipo within minutes. Ordered a 30a so I'm waiting on that, shocks, and hex adapters. Build will be running but not complete. The excitement is getting real! :)

[@MrE.]

@@Cryptazz666 Oh damn, what were you doing to blow the 20A ESC? The hex adapters are great to stick 1/10th on (have some Largefoots to try at some point) but considering some of the metal rims to keep it scale. If you're in the UK I'd send you a set of adapters if need be. Are you going to share your build when done on YT etc?

[@howardalteisen2281]

Why my metal transfer has opposite direction when i start throttling it.. the front goes forward and the rear goes backward.. what did you do to run it exactly???

[@MrE.]

You need to flip the rear axle & the front and rear will run in the same direction. This transfer case sends contra rotating outputs where as the original was both on the same shaft, dont worry I did exactly the same but it only takes a couple of mins to fix.

[@howardalteisen2281]

@@MrE. ok thank for the info👍😉

[@209Hmooblis]

How come my stock 180 motor is faster than the 370 motor even with 2s? Is your the same too?

[@MrE.]

This specific 370 has a rather extreme reduction gearing attached(see 2:40 ) but yes, mine is much slower than the 180 but it's unstoppable crawling with precision. I have recently used a 2speed 370 box on the "MN D90 Ultimate upgrade" with good results having speed and crawling torque & I also have another style of these transfer boxes with a non reduced 370 I have yet to use which I presume will be a happy medium/much faster. No doubt you could pick up a 370 dirt cheap and make it a bit faster using the pinion from this kit, hope this helps.

[@747fa]

Helpful video. Cheers! As usual there is a bit more modifying to be done than one expects.

[@utamkola]

Greating from indonesia

[@flavioramires6596]

Comprei esse motor pra colocar no jjrc q60 quero ver se fica bom

[@roadrunner5257]

Great video my friend. I have the same 370motor and metall gearbox with all the others stock.now its less powerfull like before,do i need to change esc and battery with 7.2 volt?

[@MrE.]

I think you might be better with a 2S Lipo to begin with but certainly upgrade the ESC etc in future (I've had nothing but trouble with countless stock boards and steering boxes) The stock batterys are very weak but roughly go to 2S voltages.

[@antrc]

Excellent thanks fella. Just put my gearbox together following this.

[@MrE.]

You're very welcome!

[@lemongorengpeng]

Is it a better upgrade based on performance?

[@MrE.]

@@lemongorengpeng Undoubtedly it is compared to stock. However, the 2 speed box I have found to be even better with metal gear upgrade, unstoppable low end with a nice bit of speed when you need it!

[@OmniMan_Racing]

Can you run it without the reduction box?

[@MrE.]

Im sure you could with the included motor but I'd certainly look to put an after market one in that is a bit more suited to torque rather than higher rpms which the included one seems to be. It's on my ever growing list to get around to.

[@NordicBlueRC]

Very cool truck and nice upgrade to make it more solid!

[@MrE.]

Cheers , Fella. Getting the fleet ready for the good weather when little man likes drive & explore, a fair few more to go one the truck and a couple of other little projects - idle thumbs and all that.

[@therealaustinbrown2712]

Thanks for the video! Let's see it run!

[@MrE.]

You're welcome, it's due a good run out very soon after having the leafsprings/lift done!

[@Adrian202]

I see My dual N20 mount :) I wonder to buy this motor but when i see how driveshaft is bend it drive Me crazy :D I know N20 motor fail over time but I think I will go with that bigger slow dual motors instead due to dual power and better align on driveshaft. You now will now so tell Me how it's compared to dual N20 ?? faster and less power ??

[@MrE.]

Your N20 design was a great help to use in the short term although I killed 3 motors with it :) You could modify this to use the bottom output shaft and I believe some of the kits come like it now. I'd say this is a little faster than n20's but 10x more power. I have been though nearly every type of motor/mount for the WPLs/JJRC and MN's and theres no perfect solution, the best I have is a 370 on a 2 speed box upgraded with metal internals. If I get around to it ,I have a vid with all the speed comparisons to edit somewhere. Thanks again for your design - I hope I put some traffic your way.

[@Adrian202]

@@MrE. I confirm that N20 motors die over time but that bigger one not :D Only problem is that bigger dual geared motors are much more slow but unstoppable :D I think I will stick with that dual or order one of this just to test it :)

[@teslahurmadali3214]

Firstly thanks for video, did realized big difference when you ugraded ?

[@MrE.]

There are a couple of huge differences: Firstly you get a crazy amount of low end power, so much so that it will highlight weaknesses very fast! Secondly , it is so geared down that you lose a lot of speed (hence where the power in the first point comes from) - It's a good or a bad difference depending what you are intending to do with the vehicle. I have since moved onto 2 speed gearboxes as you get the best of both low end power & higher speed when you are just running around. There is a video of it on my channel somewhere. Hope this helps.

[@utamkola]

Greating frim me

[@idworkhard]

Good to see a new video from you, MrE!

[@MrE.]

Cheers, Fella! Plenty more in the tubes that may be up your street - mostly WPL hopup's etc. Trying to get back in to the swing of things after the holiday season and bad weather, thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@idworkhard]

Can't wait for more WPL :D

[@utamkola]

That was cool....thank for video...greating from Indonesia

[@MrE.]

You're welcome! Waves from the U.K.

[@controlledfreakr]

Very cool. Looks tough as 💪🏾

[@MrE.]

Thanks - It's just had the metal leafspring upgrade which should be posted tomorrow.

[@jimr1raptor]

Nice

[@MrE.]

Thanks!

[@jimr1raptor]

This transmission is faster than the original?

[@MrE.]

@@jimr1raptor The only ones this is faster than are the n20 or n30 ones because it is quite well geared down for tonnes of torque. My B24 and MN90 with 180's are very fast and my sons c14 is faster with a 130 motor.

[@NyamukBalaprc]

👍👍😊

[@MrE.]

Thanks!

[@galbypetualang]

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[@MrE.]

Thank you!

[@yendra_efendi]

Good wpl friend

[@MrE.]

Cheers!

[@emersonpedro3944]

Show,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@MrE.]

Very soon, Friend!

[@mamunmaura731]

Mantullll👍👍