WRENCH: Honda PCX150 CVT Upgrade with NCY Super Transmission Kit

[@hankwojo]

What a little mini marvel of engineering the PCX is !

[@scrub8353]

I'm glad I found this video..just bought my 2013 150 with only 134 miles on it, paid $$$$... but I feel it was worth every penny

[@QuasiMotard]

Congrats on your new PCX! They are great machines, and I'm sure you won't regret the purchase. The 2013 model has a slightly higher top speed than the 2015+ models because of the final drive gear ratio. The 2015+ got a larger fuel tank, but they are largely the same machine under the skin. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@benbrown2490]

Thank you, sir, for the excellent video. My 2016 PCx 150 has 9500 miles so it wont be long. Well Done

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! I haven't used my PCX150's very much lately... they are still sitting at around 5K miles on each. I'll be riding them more after I return in late July 2021 from riding my Super Cub on the Scooter Cannonball Run. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@AffyNoX]

Hi, I know this is an old video. I done the cvt on this bike many time but I never ever need to remove any panel. Due to this video I made a short video how I did mine just to clear things up. It is very importsnt to do, because I ride long distant solo. Cheers..

[@GarethKing1]

Brilliant video description. I am glad I read it because I would have hated to have missed out on all of that information.

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! I try use descriptive titles on my videos so viewers can avoid wasting their time on topics that don't interest them. I will be doing another maintenance interval on these PCX's later this week, so I'll be sure to share that video as well. These scoots haven't been ridden since the last Arkansas trip (about 2 years ago), but we're planning to take them back up there in 2 weeks for another 2000+ mile trip to Arkansas and Missouri. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks for sharing. Im just learning and its a big help to see it

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for watching and leaving feedback! Seeing these procedures can demystify the process and make it more approachable. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@MadsWorld34]

i took a broom handle i found on the side of the road and laid it on the belt and and hit it and it slid down into the pully enough for me to get it on and after that i did it every time. as you know it dont take much. and it seemed to work better with new belts than used belts.

[@Trekopolis]

Mosquito Hack: Put a fan about 5-10 feet from you (in the wind path) with enough force to blow the air away. It seems to work for me anyway. Thanks for sharing your video! I may do that to my future PCX someday. ;)

[@QuasiMotard]

Yeah, I usually do that, but it wreaks havoc with the camera's microphone. I have a giant shop fan (4' diameter) that works really well for such hot evenings. If you put some nylon window screen on the back of the fan (intake side), then it traps the mosquitoes on there instead of blowing them through! 👍 --QM

[@Trekopolis]

@@QuasiMotard Ack! Forgot to ask...what is the setup for your GoPro cam? Like what mount/mic attachment, if any? It appears you may be using the headset configuration? :) Thanks in advance!

[@QuasiMotard]

For this video, I was just wearing the GoPro Chesty chest mount (gopro.com/en/us/shop/mounts/chesty/AGCHM-001.html) with my GoPro Hero7 Black... no additional microphone or ancillary equipment. My normal helmet rig for moto-vlogging can be seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epDPk6CCmcqhfrc. All of the product links are in that video's description for reference. I tackle all of the audio/video editing chores with Adobe Premiere Pro CC for stitching the video clips and normalizing audio (e.g. volume matching, noise removal, etc). If you're interested in the editing workflow, just drop me an email and I'll reply back with the work recipe and the software settings that I use. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@chevychase9797]

Jack of all trades. Nice job I hear there’s gonna be a pch 180 cc for 2022

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! Honda has recently announced the new 2022 PCX160 for the North American market: powersports.honda.com/street/scooter/pcx . It's simply labeled as the "PCX" now instead of the PCX160 or other size designation. The engine displacement has been increased to 156.9 cc's, and they have reportedly made some power improvements over the previous generations. HondaProKevin ( @HondaProKevin , kzbin.info ) has made a good write-up on it here: www.hondaprokevin.com/2021-honda-pcx-scooter-review-specs-pcx160 , and TopSpeed has another article about it here: www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/honda/2021-honda-pcx-ar190703.html . I'm interested to see how it performs and if it's more highway-capable than the outgoing PCX150. I was REALLY hoping that Honda would bring the new Forza 300 (NSS300) or the X-ADV 750 to the USA, but that's not very likely to happen. Scooter sales in the USA have always been poor, so most Japanese manufacturers won't risk importing them here in fear of slow/stagnant sales. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@IKS-Exploration]

can you do videos on oil change and other bits on the PCX please this was a great and clear video :D

[@QuasiMotard]

Certainly! I haven't done the routine maintenance and oil changes on both of my PCX150's since that Arkansas road trip, so I will video that process and upload it for you soon. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@IKS-Exploration]

@@QuasiMotard can't wait thanks :)

[@ahdalb1879]

This is very helpful, thank you for sharing this!

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! 👍 --QM

[@ronsteitz4535]

Great video, I just bought a new 2022 Honda ADV150 hoping this won’t be needed for many years. Just wondered what the goal was changing clutch and belt at this time. I’ve always followed the motto that if it ain’t broke don’t fix it🤔😉

[@QuasiMotard]

I upgraded the variators in both of my PCX150's to raise their top speeds and to relax the motor for long highway cruising. We rode these scooters up to Arkansas for a 1600+ mile motocamping trip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmumKt8rdR5ecU. The OEM variator and the engine rev-limiter cap the PCX150's speed at 62-63 mph. These upgraded variators raised the top speeds to 71-74 mph on level ground (drag-limited)... so that's a ~10 mph increase! Cruising at a steady 60-65 mph is easy now, and the annoying rev-limiter surging is gone. I've never hit the rev-limiters again after upgrading the variators... even at 78+ mph going downhill. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@satrioy6271]

You can drill a bunch of hole to the secondary pulley for dust exit... so dust not getting stuck inside...

[@zacagraniotis]

Would that weaken it? What size how many 5mm?

[@khoachino]

Cool man. Pcx fan here and love them.

[@QuasiMotard]

Thx for the feedback! I really like my PCX150's even though I don't ride them much lately. I am waiting for my new ADV150 to arrive at the dealer... already have a deposit waiting on the first one to be delivered. I'm not sure if I'll take delivery or not, but I certainly like the idea of the PCX150 with better suspension! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@MrKique04]

Thank you so much for this video I have 2013 pcx 150 I love it I drive to work can you please put were to buy this upgrade sorry I didn’t see if you did I like the exact one

[@QuasiMotard]

I purchased this kit several years ago, so it's harder to find now as a complete kit. You can shop NCY's site here to build your own customized kit: ncystore.com/ncy-cvt-kit-honda-pcx . Good luck, and congrats on your PCX150! 😉👍 --QM

[@korky7775]

You really do love messing about inside motors...and I must admit you are pretty good too....

[@QuasiMotard]

Thx! I started tearing apart every single one of my toys when I was only 3-4 years old... nothing would stay in one piece for long. The trick was learning how to put them back together (and not lose any parts) so I could play with them again! I'm still doing the same thing... it's just with bigger and more expensive toys now. 😉👍 --QM

[@markwalters1584]

That was as good a tutorial as Radar does, in my opinion. 👍

[@forestadam8288]

Hello! Hopefully you can answer my question. I am looking at ordering an NYC Super Transmission Kit for my Sym Fiddle 3 200i. Would this type of kit upgrade raise my top speed? Thank you!

[@QuasiMotard]

I don't know if this particular kit fits the Sym. You can research the NCY kits online or call some vendors to see if they have a cross-reference chart. These CVT upgrades will almost always increase your acceleration AND top speed compared to the OEM setup. They achieve those improvements because of different CVT ramp profiles and lighter weights in the rotating assembly. The profile change allows for a "taller" pulley ratio in front, increasing rear wheel speed per engine RPM. The lighter CVT weights (or sliders) enable the variator to stay in a "lower" ratio for quicker acceleration but extend the ramp fully at higher speeds. However, I DON'T recommend using these CVT upgrade kits for long-distance travel or extended high-speed abuse on the highway (e.g. hundreds of miles in a single stretch). I was a proponent of the Dr.Pulley performance variators until my recent catastrophic failures during the 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run. Several other riders also experienced losses of their Dr.Pulley variators, so that unit is failure-prone. Other manufacturers' CVT kits might fare better, but I'll now stick with the OEM pieces for longevity and reliability. The best compromise I've found is using Dr.Pulley slider weights in the OEM variator. That combination maximizes top speed, acceleration, and fuel economy while not sacrificing reliability. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@forestadam8288]

Thank you for the in depth reply! Any Dr. Pulley slider weight recs for a 169cc engine? I have the SYM fiddle 3 200i@@QuasiMotard

[@fxb3805]

2:25 no you don't. It's possible with a small rachet to remove left hand screws of the cvt cover without touching the lower plastic panel. Then You can jump to 6:30. Other than that detail, good video thanks.

[@nicholasscott-n7e]

I’m a little late to the party but I’m thinking of getting the kit for my 2013 pcx150. Still holds up well? I want to upgrade the bike to hit 70 and replace the clutch bearing in the back while I’m at it

[@QuasiMotard]

I didn't have a great experience with this kit because it started shredding belts after about 1K miles. The Dr.Pulley performance variator that I installed in my 2015 PCX150 also failed spectacularly and repeatedly during my 2023 Scooter Cannonball trip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXTFlISjn9CBeac , and kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJmrnJqJg8Zghrc . I think the better (more reliable) option is to upgrade the variator with Dr.Pulley sliders to give a bump in top speed and acceleration, but retain the factory variator and clutch for reliability. The top speed for my 2015 PCX150 with the full Dr.P variator kit was 74+ mph, but it wasn't reliable. The top speed with only the Dr.P sliders is ~68 mph, so that's a good increase over the factory 62-63 mph limiter. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@nicholasscott-n7e]

@@QuasiMotard thanks man I appreciate the advice I’ll definitely look into some decent sliders and just replace the stock clutch bearing with oem

[@nicholasscott-n7e]

@@QuasiMotard so I replaced the clutch bearing and now it slips around 30. Any advice

[@bobneilly1295]

Please post a link to the kit..

[@dennisbirkemeier6564]

I know this is an older video, but I have watched it a couple of times. I just bought a 2013 Honda PCX 150 with about 800 miles on it. It looks/feels/drives like new. I am interested in a little more top end, but don't want to swing the NCY cost for a variator. I see you also like/endorse the Dr. Pulley version. There are so many different ones made by Dr. Pulley. Any tips or a link to the correct one for my make/model? I love your video, and as a former mechanic - love your time and attention to detail. EDIT: it looks like most Dr. Pulley kits do not come with rollers; so should I buy 13g ones, and what else is missing from their standard offering that I actually need to see a performance difference? I REALLY appreciate you!

[@QuasiMotard]

Howdy, Dennis, and thanks for the feedback! You can find the Dr.Pulley variator here: drpulley.co/product/over-range-variator-kit-211501/ . That part should fit all of the PCX's regardless of year or displacement. You can purchase direct through the manufacturer at that link, but you might find a better deal on Ebay or other online retailers. The caveat with the Dr.Pulley variator in my PCX150 is that the sliders have turned sideways a couple of times: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nauWdI1_nthoars . I think my PCX has a weak contra spring in the rear that's allowing the belt to slack during high-speed deceleration, and that lets the variator flutter enough to flip the sliders. It's not a huge problem, but it's annoying when I lose my lower belt ratios... results in belt shudder and poor acceleration from a stop. The fix for that would be a stiffer contra spring in the rear pulley. I'm shopping around for a spring that's about 15-20% stiffer. I don't want to go too high on the spring rate because that results in lower fuel economy for normal cruising. Stiff springs also require re-tuning of the variator weights/sliders to maintain good top speeds. It's always a balancing act. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@dennisbirkemeier6564]

@@QuasiMotard Thank you so much! Do you know if that kit has 13g or 14 g roller weights? I may be completely missing it, but it does not specify. Really appreciate you!

[@QuasiMotard]

@@dennisbirkemeier6564 If I recall correctly, it came with 12g black sliders. I already had a few sets with 13/14/15, so I just left the 12g set in the box for future projects. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@pilyomotoride7781]

With that cvt upgrade what is you're top speed run on the highway ? I have ncy variator with 13g roller and my top speed on the highway is only 60 to 63 mph . I don't know if the saddle bag and the tall windshield is affecting my top speed.

[@QuasiMotard]

This 2016 PCX150 has the NCY Super Transmission Kit with a performance variator, rear pulley, and performance clutch. Its top speed is 73-74 MPH (117-119 km/h) on flat ground. However, the NCY kit holds the engine RPM's higher all the time, so the fuel economy dropped a out 10-15%. My 2015 PCX150 has the Dr.Pulley performance variator with the stock rear pulley and clutch. Its top speed is 71-72 MPH (114-116 km/h), and it doesn't take as big of a hit on economy because the factory pulley spring and clutch allow lower RPM's most of the time. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@pilyomotoride7781]

Did the clutch kit made a difference with the performance? Is it hard to assembled the clutch kit? Currently have the ncy variator with 13g roller

[@QuasiMotard]

Yes, the NCY kit that I installed on this PCX150 raised the top speed from 63 MPH to 74 MPH. The fuel economy dropped about 20% because the rear drive spring maintains higher engine RPM's all the time, but that's a worthwhile trade-off. The rear clutch assembly wasn't difficult, but it was tricky. You need to compress the drive assembly and spring down onto the hub and then screw down the outer nut. I was able to do it without any specialized tools by standing on the clutch assembly and carefully threading the nut onto the hub. I used a strap wrench to hold the clutch steady while cranking the nut to a final torque of ~45-50 ft-lb. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@benscootin4329]

It seems like NCY 1k (blue) clutch arm springs with 1k contra spring is best for 150cc.

[@thebbq8756]

great vid -- THANKS

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback and for watching the channel! Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@chrisking6155]

Great video. Thank you

[@damacknificent151]

Will Dr pulley work on a 2019 pcx 150? It does 64mph on dash but phone app said 68mph, how can I increase higher speed and better fuel economy?

[@QuasiMotard]

Yes, the Dr.Pulley sliders will work for the newer 2019+ PCX as well. They will help with acceleration and overall economy as long as you don't run wide-open throttle all the time. When riding at a relaxed pace, I have noticed a slight increase in fuel economy compared to the original roller weights. 😉👍 --QM

[@williamsandler1363]

Excellent presentation beginning to end thank you. Question: how much was that kit? Is there a better one (Yuminashi?) that performs better and/or with less vibration? Thanks!

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! I haven't tried any other kits besides this one from NCY (variator and clutch) and the Dr. Pulley kit (variator only). If I recall correctly, the NCY kit cost was around $325 USD, and the Dr. Pulley kit was $165. I would probably recommend the Dr. Pulley kit because the performance difference between the two isn't that great, and the price for the NCY is almost double. The NCY clutch and spring also seems to reduce the fuel economy a bit. There isn't any noticeable difference in vibration with either kit vs the stock configuration... most of the PCX's vibration is from the engine itself and not the CVT. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll try to help. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@rockyp3917]

Great Video. Was there any difference in fuel consumption?

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! Yes, the fuel economy seems to have dropped about 15-20% with the NCY variator/transmission kit. I think it's due to the rear pulley spring being so tight so it always maintains higher engine RPM's for better acceleration (the original spring was softer and keeps engine RPM's lower for better efficiency). I mentioned the fuel economy difference a few times during the road trip that followed this installation video. You can watch that "Scooters in the Ozarks" series here if you're interested: Episode Links: - Days 0-1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmumKt8rdR5ecU - Day 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWGkaqyXqKZ1qsk - Day 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGHRooaIabaSqsk (Zuma 125 Oil Change in the Woods) - Day 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHWcaWV5r6eggqc - Day 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5bSoKZqZat7arc - Days 5-6: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJebkGNrorqLpZY Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@BboyV123]

a 140/70-14 rear tire would've done the trick rather than this whole ordeal with the transmission, all that's needed is a little bit of Dremel work to the little plastic "fender" that covers the tire as it gets in the way of the bigger tire, but from experience, a Michelin City Grip 140/70-14 tire fits just perfectly as a rear tire for this model of pcx150, no bigger though, clearances are very tight but it doesn't rub even at top speed

[@GildedAlien]

Wait so you're saying I can just get a bigger tire for a higher top speed?

[@BboyV123]

@@GildedAlien Yup. Fair warning though, it's only like 4 or 5 mph and if you go for a 140, you may actually want to lighten up your rollers to give you a boost in rpm because it's enough of a change to kill a little bit of rpm without doing anything to the transmission to compensate, I would honestly go with a 120 tire if I could do it over, and you probably wouldn't need to mess with the transmission, and you might be able to get away with not cutting out your plastic mini-fender in the back

[@roywalls5595]

My was worse 15 yrs mud dirt & belt dust it was very black when I check air filfer fill apart by touch! QM

[@SC8terRiderMotoVlogger]

Me using TKW pulley/ drive face, LHR clutch and bell, TWH center spring

[@km4fsi827]

I just bought a new 2021 pcx 160 with the new 4 valve motor. it will almost run 85mph stock, i wonder if they make a set up like this here in the USA for it? so far its hard to find stuff for it in the US. most of its in Asian markets and high as crap$$ and long shipping.

[@fredmontabone9748]

I am a fairly new scooter rider and I bought a 2018 PCX150 new. I now have almost 8000 miles on the bike and I need a new rear tire. Would having to replace the rear tire after 8000 miles be considered normal wear? Does not seem like a lot of miles for a tire to wear out that quick.

[@QuasiMotard]

That's about average mileage for a rear tire. Your mileage will vary depending on your riding weight, surfaces traveled, and many other factors... but the rear tire always wears out faster than the front on any bike. The OEM tires that Honda puts on the scooters (IRC Hoop) aren't the best in terms of tread life or performance. I recently upgraded the tires on both of my PCX150's to the Michelin City Grip's, and I'm very pleased with their handling and wear characteristics so far. I took the scoots on a 1600-mile trip to Arkansas, and the tires still look completely new... no squaring or apparent wear on the rear tires at all. Michelin just released the City Grip 2's, so you might want to try those on your PCX. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@Losiusing]

Great man

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! 👍 --QM

[@flynlow4ever]

Reading through the comments, the NCY set up would be better for heavier riders or 2 up. Is this correct?

[@QuasiMotard]

I think that's probably accurate. The NCY variator and clutch let the engine rev up higher at lower speeds (lower effective ratio for more torque), so it will accelerate better from a standstill. The only downside that I've noticed compared to the stock variator (or the DrPulley variator) is that the fuel economy has dropped about 15%... probably due to the higher engine RPM's all the time. 👍 --QM

[@flynlow4ever]

@@QuasiMotard Thanks so much for your swift reply! I’m considering a PCX and was concerned about getting up to the 45 mph speed limit quickly with 6’3”, 245 lbs of me on it! That said, fuel economy isn’t going to be the greatest with me on it anyway. Through my research, I’ve found the SMAX gets to 45 in about 8 seconds, the ADV 150 takes around 12. The PCX seems to be the most popular with support on the internet, including videos such as yours, referencing maintenance and modifications. Thanks again!!! 👍🏼

[@QuasiMotard]

@@flynlow4ever The PCX definitely has a larger following and better aftermarket options than the SMAX. The PCX also gets a lot better fuel economy overall than the SMAX... not sure why Yamaha's tuning is so rich or less-efficient. However, the SMAX is a better highway scooter because it's high-speed stability is a little better than the PCX, and it can also reach 75-77 MPH without mods (vs the PCX's 63-65 MPH). You should watch Gator Greg's ( @Gator Greg ) video on the SMAX here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6LIhn9uiMd2m5I . He has owned the PCX150 and the SMAX, so he has a good perspective on the comparisons between the scoots. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@ballkeeper6662]

thanks for sharing

[@jeffreydiaz7833]

I just got a 2013 pcx 150 with 1113miles, needs some love, thanks for the advice, is there anything else you think i should do, care about speed but more about reliability

[@QuasiMotard]

Congrats on the PCX150! The Honda scooters are extremely reliable, so there isn't much to do in terms of preventative maintenance. If you are upgrading the variator, then go ahead and buy a fresh belt at the same time (only another $50) and keep the original unit as a spare. If your tires are still the original ones, then REPLACE THEM ASAP! It's a bad idea to ride around on tires that are over 3-4 years old because they get dry and slippery (dry-rot, etc). I just replaced the tires on my 2015 and 2016 PCX's with the Michelin CityGrip's ( www.denniskirk.com/michelin/city-grip-scooter-tire.pfp543832.prdf )... they are excellent! The new City Grip 2's are out now, so the original City Grip's are being cleared out for ~$45/tire. The only other thing that I would recommend is buying a Honda shop manual for the scooter, so you can tackle the maintenance items yourself (if you're so inclined). These bikes are very simple to work on, so it's smart and cheap to do the maintenance yourself. If you need parts, then you can search sites like PartZilla.com or CheapCycleParts.com to find anything you need at very reasonable prices. Cheers and good luck with your new PCX! 👍 --QM

[@jeffreydiaz7833]

Colin Southern truly thank you both for the great advice and sources, i was looking thru the websites you sent and i will definitely start with the tires and Manuel, i was able to change the motor oil and cvt oil, next will be the brakes, there is one question im hoping you guys can help, when i give the scooter about quarter throttle it vibrates, only when from a stop, then it the vibration stops, does it when the pcx is both hot or at start up, when i am at full throttle it feels as if something is slipping for a second, i was thinking it was the belt but now that you mention it, maybe its the clutch, vibration normal? I asked a local shop and they said all scooters vibrate, this would be my first so i couldn’t compare. Thanks for both your responses ahead of time.

[@jeffreydiaz7833]

QuasiMotard thank you, i left a response on the message below hopefully you can help answer, also i and defiantly going to replace the tires, what size do you recommend for the front and rear, ive always like fat tires, or wide, just not sure how wide is safe on stock rims, i trust your opinion, i see you know alot about this scooter. So far my only must repairs are tires, the front shock seals are leaking and the vibration i mentioned on the comment below when im at quarter throttle taking off, im debating taking it to the dealer but due to pricing i feel if i can speak to someone like urself who truly knows the scooter i should be able todo the work myself.

[@williamsandler1363]

@@colinsouthern Outstanding details above extremely valuable thanks

[@sabretech2001]

The night before a 1500 mile road trip? REBUILD THE TRANSMISSION! You're a madman, QM. [PS: You should've posted this one before the road trip ones to make us wonder if you made it]

[@QuasiMotard]

LOL! As I said in the beginning of the video, "...welcome to the mind of madness..." 🤣. I had no doubts about my mechanical abilities, but I was curious to see how the NCY bits fared over the trip. I took my toolkit and the spares on the trip to change it on the side of the road... just in case! 😉👍 --QM

[@kissszilveszter252]

Hi! What type of rear shock? Where can i buy it? Thank you!

[@QuasiMotard]

The shocks that I have on this 2016 Honda PCX150 are the YSS G-Sports adjustable shocks (335mm length): japan.webike.net/products/23227435.html . These are hard to find lately, so you might want to search eBay and other online resellers to find them. Good luck! 😉👍 --QM

[@periloustimez]

What would you say is a comfortable cruising speed for a stock Suzuki dr200s without straining the motor too much? I'm think about changing the front sprocket to see if that will make a difference. Thanks

[@QuasiMotard]

I haven't owned a DR200S, so I can't give an educated opinion on it. If the DR200S is anything like my XT250, then the motor's "happy place" will probably be around 50-55 mph. If you notice that the motor is revving too high at your preferred cruising speed, then you can try increasing the front sprocket 1-2 teeth or reducing the rear sprocket 3 teeth. That will usually give you a good reduction in engine RPM's. However, you don't want to make very large changes because that can move the motor out of its torque peak and you may also alter your speedometer's accuracy (if the speedo is driven by the countershaft output). Just remember that you aren't increasing the motor's power output, so it might not have enough power to overcome the wind resistance at higher speeds. Good luck with your experiments! Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@periloustimez]

@@QuasiMotard If I change the front sprocket with 2 more teeth will I loose torque?

[@MadsWorld34]

my first silverwing i said screw it and changed my belt before i decided to ride to Az. i just changed all the oils and put a new tire on it why not go ahead and put a new belt on it my old one had 14000 miles on it. and got right past the i 10 and i 20 split and my new belt came apart. and changing it on the side of the road in the middle on nowhere alone was a nightmare. i put my old belt back on it and got another 15000 miles out of it. then like a idiot i traded it for a Harley. took me another 4 years to find another one and it will NEVER be sold.

[@Chris-ts8oh]

2 tbls of white vinegar swallow both and when u sweat mosquitoes will stay away they don't like it used to do that when picking wild raspberries and black berries

[@marcioreis5260]

Good morning, where do I meet that kit?

[@roywalls5595]

Thanks for the video! QM

[@kevinmichaelartes385]

For the NCY.. What is the rpm on the center spring and clutch spring?

[@QuasiMotard]

That's a good question. I'm not sure what the spring tensions are... the kit didn't specify. The clutch engagement is higher than stock, and the rear spring is a LOT stiffer... it holds the rev's high throughout the operating range... I'm guessing 3000-3500 RPM engagement point. I would need to put a tachometer on the bike and measure the springs to know for sure. However, I can certainly verify that this NCY kit gives better top speed and climbing power than the DrPulley variator kit that I installed in my white 2015 PCX150. The gray 2016 PCX was able to accelerate harder, had a higher top speed, and held its hill-climb speeds better than the 2015 during my 1600-mile Arkansas trip earlier this year. The downside is that the 2016 PCX now averages 15% lower overall fuel economy... probably due to the higher engine rev's throughout the operating range. 👍 --QM

[@Rammer_Jammer]

Great video 👍 Do you have the link where you purchased this kit? I need one for my 2019 pcx.

[@QuasiMotard]

Certainly! I purchased my kit from SteadyGarage.com for $319.00 USD, but they advised that I got their last one of these kits. You can try ordering direct from NCY here: ncystore.com/ncy-cvt-kit-honda-pcx , or search eBay for "NCY super transmission Honda PCX" to see who has them in stock. The prices usually range from ~$280-380 depending on who has it and the shipping costs. You might also want to see if you can get a couple of extra rear drive springs with different rates to play with the CVT engagement points. The one supplied with my kit really rev's up the motor to take off... it accelerates very well, but I'd like to lower the engagement point just a bit. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@Rammer_Jammer]

Thanks! 👌

[@7thsignthenorthcoast146]

How fast can the other go with the Dr.p kit

[@QuasiMotard]

The 2015 PCX150 with the Dr.Pulley kit usually reaches 71-72 MPH. This NCY kit reaches 73-74 MPH, but it also takes a 10-15% drop in economy because it runs the engine at higher RPM's all the time. 😉👍 --QM

[@7thsignthenorthcoast146]

@@QuasiMotard ok so I could lose 2-3 mph between the two but keep 10-15% mpg. Thanks I’ll look into the Dr. Pulley thanks for the info sir .

[@psalm333worship]

Did you upgrade the rear shocks?

[@euridemotovlog116]

that's 22mm for pulley knot..i got Vario 125 2018 same engine with that

[@ronsteitz4535]

What mileage are you working with for the change being done.

[@QuasiMotard]

I'm not sure which mileage figure you're asking about, but I'll try to answer with a bunch of details. Both of my PCX150's had about 2500 miles each when I upgraded the variators for this long road trip. The original top speed for both scooters was rev-limited to 63 mph, and the average fuel economy was ~110 MPG average when running at a steady 55 mph. After the upgrade, the 2015 PCX150 (white) is able to reach a drag-limited 72 mph with the Dr.Pulley variator. The 2016 PCX150 (gray) is able to reach 74-75 mph with the NCY Super Transmission Kit (variator, rollers, clutch, and stiffer clutch spring). The fuel economy at 55 mph for the 2015 PCX went up about 15% (~125 MPG), and the 2016 PCX went down about 10% (~97 MPG) at the same speed (probably due to the NCY variator's higher RPM's throughout the operating range). Both scooters are now drag-limited on their top speed and never reach the rev-limiter. I have taken the 2015 PCX up to 78 mph downhill and I still didn't hit the limiter. So, I'm not sure where the theoretical top speed is now with the increased front drive ratio. I haven't tried a downhill run with the 2016 PCX since the upgrade, but I'm sure it will have a similar drag-limited speed. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@ajc5601]

Hi QM, loved the tutorial and also the very informative description. Just a question, is the pulley/drive face the same diameter as the stock? Or smaller? Also I own a Vario 150i(idk if you have seen 1, but they almost have the same setup as pcx, just that stock vario pulley is smaller than pcx) can i use this on my vario?

[@QuasiMotard]

Thx for the feedback! I don't know if this particular kit will work for the Vario 150i, but I'm sure that NCY (Golden Variator) probably has a kit that works for your bike. You can probably search eBay or other online resellers to see if you find a kit that is specific to your bike. Many of the GY6 and 125-150cc variants use almost identical equipment, so the parts are largely interchangeable. However, I don't know about the exact variator dimensions (e.g. outer diameter, spline pitch, width, etc). I will try to remember to take measurements for you next time open up the drive housing on that scooter. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@colinbowman4951]

Hi QM How many miles will all that new kit give you. And how much did u save doing it yourself ? Colin

[@QuasiMotard]

The NCY transmission kit pushes the top speed of the PCX150 up to ~74 mph instead of the factory's ~63 mph. So now it can cruise comfortably at 60-65 without hitting the rev-limiter and it still has a bit of reserve to accelerate. As far as longevity, I expect the same lifespan for the components that the OEM unit would have... probably ~15K miles for the rollers in the variator and 25K+ for the clutch shoes. The CVT belt is a standard unit that typically lasts 12-16K miles, and it shouldn't see any difference in wear. As for the installation labor, the local shop rates around here are ~$125/hour. The problem with shop labor is that every job is charged by the "book rates". So if the book says it requires 2 hours to do a 10-minute job, then you're paying for 2 hours... ouch. This transmission upgrade would have probably cost $250-350 in labor to have a shop do it. I prefer to do my own bike maintenance to save money AND to know that it has been done correctly. 😉👍 --QM

[@Trekopolis]

@@QuasiMotard I love and appreciate these kinds of DIY vids because it gives folks the confidence to perform various mechanical tasks to save money. My golden rule is to always at least try to tackle myself because nobody will care for my vehicle as well as I will. I took our minivan once to get an oil change. (I needed brakes too) I come out, start the vehicle and they forgot to put the oil back in! After the engine was damaged from me starting it with no oil, I fought tooth and nail to have them pay for it and admit fault. It was like an unbelievable nightmare dream, but it was reality.

[@QuasiMotard]

Yep, I've had that same experience with motorcycle service several times in the past. I had a local Honda dealer put new tires on my Honda SilverWing scooter and then I drove it about 5 miles home. I was about to head out for a ride when I noticed that the front axle wasn't tightened at all and the axle retainer cap bolts were dangling by the threads... just about to fall out! WTF!?!? I had another dealer forget to put the front brake caliper bolts back into one of my sport bikes. I found that "minor" oversight as I was exiting the freeway at 70+ mph when the front wheel shuddered and temporarily locked up under braking on the exit ramp... WTF?!?! Now I do my own service on all of my bikes unless it's a warranty issue or an initial service that needs to be recorded on the VIN. 😉👍 --QM

[@colinbowman4951]

Hi many thanks for the great reply. Great to see that you are putting 15k on the pcx with that bit of skilful work. Back in the day I would have done routine maintenance work on my bikes and cars but now they go to the work shop. Things seem to get more and more complicated! Good for you man saving some green backs and lots of satisfaction Look forward to more vids Colin

[@Trekopolis]

@@colinsouthern Agree! I try to do anything I can myself these days. That's half the fun! lol

[@darrenoldford1755]

What shocke do you have on the PCX

[@QuasiMotard]

Howdy, Darren! The gray 2016 PCX has the YSS G-Sport shocks with external reservoirs and higher spring rates (P/N: TG302-335TRJ-04). I purchased them through Bikerz Bits in Thailand ( bikerzbits.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=pcx+yss ), but you might be able to source them cheaper on eBay. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@darrenoldford1755]

How did the clutch kit end up working out? Top speed and acceleration? I have a 2022 PCX 150, I am getting about 70-75 on top speed, depending on the day, I weigh about 200 pounds. Takes some time on flat ground.

[@luannguyen2927]

Hi, where do u order the ncy kit from?

[@knowledgeispower01001]

Boss ilang grams po ba ang stock flyballs ng PCX150?

[@QuasiMotard]

Kung tama ang aking dokumentasyon, ang factory variator roller ay 15g bawat isa. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM

[@knowledgeispower01001]

Thank you boss

[@GildedAlien]

Will this kit work with a 2019 PCX 150?

[@QuasiMotard]

I'm not sure if it will work, but most of the 150cc scooters use very similar parts. I wouldn't think that Honda has changed the CVT much since the 2015 models. The previous model PCX150 (2013 and previous) used a different final drive gear ratio, but I think the CVT was mostly the same. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@rockinjuliescott]

Thanks for the great video. Is the ncy mod still working great? I'm probably going to put one in as I constantly cruise around 60 mph with my bike on a daily basis. Thanks again. How is the ncy doing after this long?

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! The NCY is still doing well after about 2000 miles. We noticed a bit of scraping/warbling sound in the rear clutch area, so I pulled it apart and added more bearing grease on the drive pinion shaft... no problems since then. The only downside that I have noticed is that the fuel economy has dropped about 10% since the NCY was installed. I think that's because of the super stiff clutch spring that comes with that kit... it keeps the engine RPM's up for better acceleration all the time. The Dr. Pulley (Golden Variator) kit that I installed in the white 2015 PCX150 seems to still get about the same fuel economy, and it raised the top speed 5-6 MPH. So, if you're looking for just a bit higher top speed, but not revving the motor as much, then the Dr. Pulley kit might be a better fit for you. Let me know if you have any specific questions about the two kits, and I'll be happy to help with part numbers or other info. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@rickybobbydastar6534]

Great video

[@rickybobbydastar6534]

@@QuasiMotard what was your top speed before the variator & new clutch ? I’m thinking about getting a 2021

[@dinospumoni8860]

Which do you prefer the dr pulley or ncy?

[@QuasiMotard]

It's a toss-up. The Dr.Pulley kit is more fuel-efficient because it's using the factory clutch and rear pulley spring (lower engine RPM's overall). The NCY Super Transmission Kit has better acceleration because of the heavier/stiffer rear pulley spring, but it definitely takes a hit on fuel economy... about 15% lower due to the higher engine RPM's across all operating speeds. 😉👍 --QM

[@dinospumoni8860]

@@QuasiMotard sounds like I should invest in the ncy kit then because I’m more interested in quicker acceleration than top end. Pcx stock can do 60 which is more than enough for the roads I ride on. Just want it to be able to get there faster.

[@dinospumoni8860]

@@QuasiMotard I ended up ordering both. Put the dr pulley variator kit with 14 gram sliders in last night. Acceleration seems smoother but 40-55 seems like it takes longer to reach. I would like to try the ncy kit once I have the confidence to take the oem clutch thing apart (idk what it’s called exactly) because I have to reuse one of the belt faces with the ncy kit.

[@codym8079]

Do you think the ADV150 will accept the same parts as the PCX150?

[@QuasiMotard]

I would assume that the parts are identical, but I haven't compared schematics or part numbers to verify that yet. 👍 --QM

[@PalmuserSavage]

Thank you

[@markmacasiray8842]

What is your suspension?

[@QuasiMotard]

The rear shocks are YSS G-Sports ( japan.webike.net/products/23227435.html ). The front forks have been upgraded with the YSS upgrade kit ( japan.webike.net/products/24097291.html ) that consists of stiffer springs, YSS PD valves, and adjustable preload caps. The preload caps didn't fit my front fork tubes, so I didn't install those pieces. The forks were refilled with Bel-Ray 15W synthetic fork oil instead of the original 10W oil. Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@ballkeeper6662]

does your trailer fit this scooter

[@QuasiMotard]

I don't have a hitch to mount the SherpaX trailer on my PCX150 yet, but KipMoto is working on that for me now. Adrian and I are hoping to pull the trailers for the 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run, so we're anxious to try it out! The new hitch should work for the PCX150 and the ADV150 if everything goes according to plan. We'll see... fingers crossed! 😉👍 -QM

[@ballkeeper6662]

@@QuasiMotard yup that would be interesting to see how they mount to these scooters honda sh150 / 300 seem the same as your pcx ay the rear

[@carlosramos235]

where can i find the crank on my 2012 honda pcxww150 scooter

[@QuasiMotard]

The crankshaft (engine output shaft) is where the front CVT pulley attaches on these scooters. The Honda shop manual is a good reference if you are planning any maintenance or tear-downs of the bike. I purchased my manual directly through the Honda/HELM website: www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?Make=AHC&Model=PCX2&Year=2016&Category=1&class%5F2=AHC&mk=Honda+Motorcycle&yr=2016&md=PCX150&dt=Shop%2FService+Information&module=&from=result&Style=g61zysahc9jvf8w&Sku=61KZY04&itemtype=N . Cheers! 👍 --QM

[@capttom6232]

What’s your new top speed?

[@QuasiMotard]

The new top speed after the variator upgrades is 71-72 MPH on the white PCX (Dr. Pulley variator), and 73-74 for the gray PCX (NCY variator). 👍 --QM

[@jered2177]

Upgraded rear shocks I see

[@QuasiMotard]

Yep, I upgraded the rear shocks on both of my PCX's because the OEM units were too soft and bottomed-out over moderate bumps. The shocks on this 2016 PCX are the YSS G-Sport with the separate reservoirs, and the 2015 PCX has the YSS Z-Series shocks (no external reservoirs). They made a big difference in the handling and taming the bumps on the rear of the bikes. The spring rate on the G-Sport's are a bit stiff for the bike though... I have them backed out to their lowest spring preload and they're still a bit harsh. 👍 --QM

[@mikef9683]

I see how mechanics make money what a turtle

[@steveburns1603]

👌👍🇵🇱🙂😊

[@soprasvidigo8962]

#ruhiusta

[@drdreddmanofmystery9482]

6:44 "If you had to do this by the side of the road, it would suck. I hope I never have to experience that..." You're either descended from a long line of Gypsy fortune tellers or you got cursed for saying that. lol Why am I watching this four year old video? I'm bored. lol

[@scrub8353]

Very well done video..Ty...

[@QuasiMotard]

Thanks for the feedback! 👍 --QM