Who Really Killed TNA?

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@jonmel
@jonmel Ай бұрын
It’s amazing it’s survived two vince Russo eras and having hulk and Eric making decisions
@DamariJackson24
@DamariJackson24 Ай бұрын
FACTS.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
Eric didn’t make any decisions in TNA, Eric eve said TNA didn’t even want him there but Hogan wanted him.
@PhillyCYOSports
@PhillyCYOSports Ай бұрын
It didn't survive. Whatever Impact Wrestling is now, is basically a new company.
@TheNextStep851
@TheNextStep851 Ай бұрын
Vince Russo oversaw yearly growth in TNA and they were at their viewership peak when he was writing, so why would he even be in the conversation? 2011 was their highest-watched year and then as soon as he left they declined year after year.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
@@TheNextStep851 Exactly
@4877-S
@4877-S Ай бұрын
Undisputably, it's not Scott D'Amore, he's the key reason TNA got through the pandemic era, to today
@trendmassacre8423
@trendmassacre8423 Ай бұрын
100%!
@REfan2002
@REfan2002 Ай бұрын
He made sure the company would survive!
@420Prodigy
@420Prodigy Ай бұрын
This is why I think Scott should be the booker for AEW, he could make that stuff make sense
@AndrewDaughtry
@AndrewDaughtry Ай бұрын
Footnote: Mickie James also made a royal rumble appearance as the Impact Knockouts Champion a year before Jordynne Grace.
@jaibhavsar1
@jaibhavsar1 Ай бұрын
What's a Knockout, pal? She was Impact Women's Champion, damn it!!
@AndrewDaughtry
@AndrewDaughtry Ай бұрын
@jaibhavsar1 (Edit: I didn't catch your references the first time I read your reply, so apologies)I'm not sure if you are joking or if perhaps in your country of origin that is what it is called but in the US one of the company's quirks is that it's women's division was renamed the Knockouts around the same time as WWE changed their female division's name to Divas. TNA has kept the name as they were always taking it's women's division seriously and with respect for the most part.
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Ай бұрын
Wwe called Mickie the women's champ not knockouts champ. Also, vince reportedly didn't know Mickie was the champ when they asked her to be in the rumble.
@AndrewDaughtry
@AndrewDaughtry Ай бұрын
@@muhammadHassan-kj1jy doesn't matter what Vince said that it was called and it 100% is on brand that he was unaware she was champ in another company
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Ай бұрын
@@AndrewDaughtry The point I was tryna make was that WWE and Vince weren't trying to establish a relationship with TNA at this time. They asked Mickie cos she is a legend not cos she was TNA champ
@badblight
@badblight Ай бұрын
TNA is that one promotion that has nine lives. Almost incredible how it evolved to stick around
@jaredstearns3316
@jaredstearns3316 Ай бұрын
And it beats AEW every week lol That show is crap
@isaaclikesturtles7282
@isaaclikesturtles7282 25 күн бұрын
​@@jaredstearns3316get some help
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby Ай бұрын
Loved TNA in 2005 to 2009, and 2012 to 2013, The current product is pretty good
@romanvillegas7280
@romanvillegas7280 Ай бұрын
Same with me😊💯❤️
@edgecrusher018
@edgecrusher018 Ай бұрын
I love the current product. 😊
@graefx
@graefx Ай бұрын
The SpikeTV golden years. I think theres been a new golden era since the Final Deletion. The pandemic hurt them though
@swacfan100
@swacfan100 Ай бұрын
The current product is very good I agree. A lot has gone into it over the yrs. Many steps have been taken. If they can keep progressing, who knows. I'm excited for TNA, especially next yr.
@switzjon8405
@switzjon8405 Ай бұрын
It's its own unique style the collabe WWE makes them a pretty decent comapny after the slump
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby Ай бұрын
What annoys me is how many people Dixie let take advantage of her, She genuinely was a fan who wanted the best for the company. Towards the end she was funding the company with her own money.
@Intelligent.E
@Intelligent.E Ай бұрын
A money mark. It’s the wrestling business
@robstuart8474
@robstuart8474 Ай бұрын
I disagree that she wanted the best for the company. To her, it had become a vanity project that was all about putting her on international television and having people say how attractive she was. The beginning of the Claire Lynch storyline is perhaps the most obvious example of this.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
I know, but the problem is Dixie was unfit to run the company, much like Tony Khan with AEW,
@WarEagle1023
@WarEagle1023 Ай бұрын
​@@NuMetalfan1996 yeah you make it about AEW. No one mentioned it until you but you go out there show everyone how stupid you are. Dude. HE JUST SIGNED A 5 YEAR 900 MILLION DOLLAR TV DEAL! Shut up about him not knowing how to run a wrestling company!
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby Ай бұрын
​@@robstuart8474Vince did it so what
@radutanase7221
@radutanase7221 Ай бұрын
The fact that Vince Russo was considered important to creative is way beyond my understanding.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
Well TNA was getting their best ratings under Russo
@TheNextStep851
@TheNextStep851 Ай бұрын
@@NuMetalfan1996 People think because they personally didn't like his creative, it's suddenly a fact that he destroyed the comapny. As long as he's getting the viewership up (which he was) then he can be considered important to creative.
@hitmonkey3602
@hitmonkey3602 Ай бұрын
It's wild, his run at the beginning during the weekly PPV's was so bad. The idea of bringing him back, especially when doing so could kill the tv deal, was ridiculous, but Jeff Jarrett needed to be champion so he wanted Russo in
@TheNextStep851
@TheNextStep851 Ай бұрын
@@hitmonkey3602 He had nothing to do with killing the tv deal. That was debunked years ago by numerous sources. Why would the tv network be unhappy that the show's most successful writer was back working there? Higher ratings = more money in ad revenue for them.
@richardhoffman527
@richardhoffman527 Ай бұрын
The Vince Russo hate needs to stop. Brother is a solid dude.
@TheMegaDudeBroski
@TheMegaDudeBroski Ай бұрын
The revolving door of Jarrett, Russo, and Bischoff is a who’s who of creative guys who undoubtedly need someone above them that can filter out their worst plans and run with the best ones if they are going to work, and Dixie Carter was just not in any way that person.
@jcross996
@jcross996 Ай бұрын
Bravo shutting down in UK. Losing the SpikeTV deal. Completely dire storylines. Pope v Wolfe for 65 Million Years straight.
@diabeticman2194
@diabeticman2194 Ай бұрын
The fact they lost the Spike deal due to Russo emailing Mike Johnston instead of Mike Tenay has always made me chuckle, thanks OSW
@RobertJW
@RobertJW Ай бұрын
​@@diabeticman2194 Watch the video - that happened, but it's not what killed the TNA deal.
@Mikhail_Malekov935-zs1is
@Mikhail_Malekov935-zs1is Ай бұрын
Surprised that they didn't mention Jim Cornette's involvement with the company. Considering that he sent that one email where he stated he would "piss on Russo's grave, even he has to be wheeled there by his girlfriend"
@Sadeshking
@Sadeshking Ай бұрын
Could you do one about Lucha underground
@cdtnplyr
@cdtnplyr Ай бұрын
Yes please
@Griff88
@Griff88 Ай бұрын
D'Amore deserves his flowers, that guy is truly the TNA/impact saviour and should have been a lifer.
@sportsmanlikemisconduct
@sportsmanlikemisconduct Ай бұрын
Luke you handsome and knowledgeable fool! TNA is still in business!
@ReactwithRespect-i5i
@ReactwithRespect-i5i 25 күн бұрын
Exactly The TNA wrestling still In business line
@SJxPVR
@SJxPVR Ай бұрын
I hope we get more of these , for a weekend video these have been a great edition with no news an all.
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Ай бұрын
Dixie Carter did not know what she was doing. She learned none of the lessons from WCW’s downfall.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
And what was WCW”s downfall?, the downfall was giving the talents creative control, and terrible booking in 1999 and 2000. That was killed WCW, nothing else.
@Gazowen-qz5xy
@Gazowen-qz5xy Ай бұрын
​@@NuMetalfan1996what killed wcw was nwo 2000 and the fingerpoint of doom
@thatlat5831
@thatlat5831 Ай бұрын
@@Gazowen-qz5xy nah What killed WCW was their parent company did not want wrestling on their channels at the time so they decided to write it as a tax payoff. Which Vince saw the opportunity to buy it.
@Gazowen-qz5xy
@Gazowen-qz5xy Ай бұрын
@thatlat5831 maybe but the nwo reform didn't help
@DiversityJackson
@DiversityJackson Ай бұрын
​@@Gazowen-qz5xythat was sad. Bret looked so lost in that n.w.o. 2000
@edgecrusher018
@edgecrusher018 Ай бұрын
I’ll push back on one thing: most people who watch tna watch their shows on tna+. TNA is far cheaper to follow than AEW. While it certainly doesn’t have the roster AEW has, I would argue they use their talent better.
@YaBoyEdGames
@YaBoyEdGames Ай бұрын
I subscribed during slammiversary with that promo code and I agree it’s cheaper to follow for sure and much like nxt which also follow big time, all of the talent have a chance for time in the ring or a promo.
@Alucard-A-La-Carte
@Alucard-A-La-Carte Ай бұрын
Vince Russo really IS just middle-class suburbanite Vince McMahon, isn't he?
@REVAMPEDWRESTLING2K
@REVAMPEDWRESTLING2K 29 күн бұрын
stop smoking opium mark
@thedispatcher01
@thedispatcher01 Ай бұрын
Really great work. An excellent historical summary. A+
@Jhakri_
@Jhakri_ Ай бұрын
It'll be always be Dixie. Russo is an absolute turd with the worst ideas ever but the fact he wasn't only hired but REHIRED will forever baffle me. Hogan, Bischoff and friends were a cancer but again only allowed to take root because of Dixie.
@TRG568
@TRG568 Ай бұрын
Great video. I really enjoyed this trip down memory lane.
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
DIXIE CARTER No one else, it was 100% DIXIE’s fault
@AWrestlingHistorian
@AWrestlingHistorian Ай бұрын
This.
@klausmeier2021
@klausmeier2021 Ай бұрын
That mustache... Luke is definitely planning to betray Neo and Trinity to Agent Smith.
@SychoSid420
@SychoSid420 Ай бұрын
Great fn video Luke. These historical pieces on wrestling and on the entertainment channel are things that should live on the internet forever. True passion projects that connect to those of us who also lived through these things.
@DDS029
@DDS029 Ай бұрын
I will go to my grave convinced Scott D'Amore left, or was fired because he was told they were putting together their working arrangement with WWE. He, like me, I think felt this was the new way to takeover TNA and kill it like they did with WCW. At that time, that working arraignment could have prevented AEW for getting off the ground or WWE tying up talent at TNA's expense as their new "developmental company". Scott D'Amore likely saw this as a piss-poor way to repay his efforts to keep TNA the anti-WWE. None of this happened over night, and Scott D'Amore's efforts to buy TNA was to stop this "partnership" from ruining everything he did to bring them back from the brink. He should have been allowed to take the company into the future. He earned that. But to be pushed aside to allow an untrusted group to come in and likely force their influence over his successes was too much for him to take. He either threatened to quit if it happened, or made such a stink they fired him.
@WilloftheFans
@WilloftheFans Ай бұрын
Solid video man. Especially that summary at the end. Hilarious. Well researched.
@clifforddavidson7273
@clifforddavidson7273 Ай бұрын
It's actually really simple. The highest PPV buy rate was Joe/Angle the first ever match at 60k. How? TNA never reached the heights that should have because the never could figure out how to properly promote PPV's TNA was getting 1 million to 2 million viewers at their peak on Spike TV, and they could only convert at the most 6 percent? Thats a huge problem.
@HeadlockedGaming
@HeadlockedGaming Ай бұрын
I'll never forget that first Hogan/Bischoff night of TNA. Bischoff read off an awesome lineup that sounded like an amazing, classic night of TNA action. Then he ripped it in half and said, "And we're not doing any of that." It's a new era. And Hogan/Bischoff era started and in my eyes killed it.
@paltrax
@paltrax Ай бұрын
The endurance should be respected even when the only times it gets brought up by big KZbinrs is another what killed it(while it still exists)
@FinOJOVideo
@FinOJOVideo Ай бұрын
“Hello there.” I watched this video the other day on work phone. I truly enjoyed this TNA deep dive. I had followed TNA after we lost WCW. Basically, Atlanta’s wrestling Alamo, if you will. I’m an older fan, but for real, going through hell this year and coming out on other side and I owe this channel for helping me through it with their humor, intellect, and true pro wrestling fan knowledge. I leaned more about the old TNA years. Thanks. Mad respect to ya from an old Georgia boy! All “y’all”, as we say down here, are crushing it. Not blowing smoke. Just a middle aged nerd. I’m still in that blasted demo still, btw: ) Thanks for these kinds of categories. Much love.
@KarlWPickup
@KarlWPickup Ай бұрын
It's nice to see TNA getting talked about on a big wrestling youtube channel, considering it gets brushed under the carpet by everyone else
@mareleivanov
@mareleivanov Ай бұрын
It's Jeff Jarret putting himself over everyone in the early years. He made Raven, Monty Brown, Ron Killings and AJ Styles look incredibly stupid with his contrived finishes. Fans literally rioted and threw thrash in the ring when he was supposed to be the babyface. They were that sick of his midcard a**.
@DiversityJackson
@DiversityJackson Ай бұрын
Absolutely, konnan touched on that in several shoot interviews.
@drno87
@drno87 28 күн бұрын
There's a deeper question here: why is WWE the only major American wrestling promotion since the 1980s to make money in the long run? It's fine to do deep dives into the individual circumstances of TNA, WCW, ECW, AEW, Smoky Mountain, and Jim Crockett Productions to ask why they specifically had trouble making profits. But that misses the forest for the trees. For a wrestling show with high production values to make money seems like a hard problem. Small promotions can cut costs and carve out a niche. The big players seem to require subsidies to avoid going out of business.
@Sanct1mon1a
@Sanct1mon1a Ай бұрын
Very good video Luke! Like you and I am TNA mark from the earlier days and having this breakdown really reminded me how it survived all the things that would have killed a normal company.
@demarcoadkins
@demarcoadkins Ай бұрын
Luke did a Fantastic job with this!
@Mr.strangemaniawwe86
@Mr.strangemaniawwe86 Ай бұрын
Hiring the people from the WCW was a mistake I agree Russo was the mistake I'm shocked TNA survived after him
@TheNextStep851
@TheNextStep851 Ай бұрын
Russo was there from 2006 to 2011 and their viewership was going up every year. Their peak was in 2011 (Russo's final year). They went into decline when Prichard replaced him.
@Raytheman581
@Raytheman581 Ай бұрын
@@TheNextStep851 ratings went up and ppvs went down, i'd say the ratings were more important to keep spike happy.
@mattelwood980
@mattelwood980 Ай бұрын
Nah Booking Okada as Okato is actually hilarious
@DamariJackson24
@DamariJackson24 Ай бұрын
FACTS😂.
@SychoSid420
@SychoSid420 Ай бұрын
I strongly dislike Russo but it shocks me he was the lead creative mind during that great two month run before Hogan/Bischoff. It almost upsets me he was in charge of arguably my fav TNA run lolol
@siegfriedc2332
@siegfriedc2332 Ай бұрын
I agree about that two months. Was really invested in the stuff tna was doing at the time. Then Hulk and Bischoff get brought in and scrap all that in favour of their buddies.
@bossbradley
@bossbradley Ай бұрын
Another great video essay!!!!
@trendmassacre8423
@trendmassacre8423 Ай бұрын
Letting Scott D'Amore go was a mistake. Yeah it's a bit better today, but I believe it would be much better if they kept him around and hired a wrestling veteran who didn't have a bloated head on his/her shoulders!
@darthnixilis304
@darthnixilis304 Ай бұрын
They say Russo didn't have anything with the deal failing, but I'd argue that if he wasn't ever involved TNA would have been worth what Dixie tried to get ($24m). So not directly, no, but totally a reason they weren't that valued.
@Bigbob44204
@Bigbob44204 Ай бұрын
Also it's easier to make a deal with a company you didn't lie to. (Russo not being part of TNA anymore)
@ellisg95
@ellisg95 Ай бұрын
Really have loved this series of videos (WCW & ECW). Luke's wrestling knowledge is showcased brilliantly here. Would love to see him cover individual careers in a similar vein too this! Great stuff!
@Andrethegiant2008
@Andrethegiant2008 Ай бұрын
I like to imagine they've been wanting to make this video for years, but TNA's refusal to die has stopped them from doing so, so they decided "Sod it" and made it while the company was still active.
@Taustin1117
@Taustin1117 Ай бұрын
Hardcore fans doesn’t equate to momentum, or money.
@lewismaclean8849
@lewismaclean8849 11 күн бұрын
The next video we need to see is who killed NXT part 2. What caused the black and gold era of NXT to go out?
@diabeticman2194
@diabeticman2194 Ай бұрын
One of my favourite lol TNA stories was coming up to Spike and TNA’s TV rights renewal Spike had originally stated they did not want Vince Russo booking TNA. Of course they didn’t adhere to this demand, but Spike did not know of this (even if the fans could tell by the booking). Spike found out because of a Mike Johnston report because Russo emailed Johnston instead of Mike Tenay. Once Spike heard this, they decided not to renew the TV deal and thus TNA’s TV deal struggles began
@Trisof88
@Trisof88 18 күн бұрын
Paramount Network needs a kick in the ass for that either way. They should bring back TNA on their network
@claycollins9852
@claycollins9852 Ай бұрын
I stopped watching TNA for the most part when Hogan and Biscoff showed up. Still loved the Rosemary stuff and the Broken universe stuff.
@demonipo
@demonipo Ай бұрын
Name me a more iconic duo than Vince Russo and toilets, I'll wait
@jimmymcfly9822
@jimmymcfly9822 Ай бұрын
Ric Flair calling Desmond “The Lex Luger of the Four Horsemen” was a savage burial.
@VincentTheWordsmith
@VincentTheWordsmith Ай бұрын
I love how this is the second time Russo could be shouldered with the downfall of a company but just barely wriggles out of 100% culpability. Awesome video guys! My knowledge of TNA is threadbare, so this was a cool little look into their history.
@chrishollister80
@chrishollister80 Ай бұрын
Nobody killed TNA. It's still around. Maybe this should be titled "Who Almost Killed TNA?"
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 Ай бұрын
I think what they meant is being the number 2 company, what knocked them off the number 2 spot
@sparkyKestrel
@sparkyKestrel Ай бұрын
It should have been called "The Rise and Fall of TNA".
@TheSidewindingCobra
@TheSidewindingCobra 20 күн бұрын
​@@sparkyKestrelthe rise and fall and rise again of TNA
@sonicheroxd5767
@sonicheroxd5767 Ай бұрын
To quote Jay Hunter from OSW Review: "AND LIVED!!!"
@figby
@figby Ай бұрын
Love these videos and this was a good one 🙂 Big thanks to Luke and the rest of the team, you're all amazing 🙂
@lewismaclean8849
@lewismaclean8849 Ай бұрын
YES, finally the video I've been secertly waiting for.
@toyaboy
@toyaboy Ай бұрын
I’m so excited to watch this. More like this please
@mperry0913
@mperry0913 Ай бұрын
Once again, WrestleTalk puts out a masterpiece. This was fantastic! You guys keep killing it, and I can't wait for the next one!
@TSEEMOD_618
@TSEEMOD_618 Ай бұрын
According to how online fans are toxic, tribalists and generally stupid, I am already envisioning a "Who really killed AEW?" with AEW surviving easily the next 50 years
@kevinlalonde6217
@kevinlalonde6217 Ай бұрын
It would be a good video ahaha
@graefx
@graefx Ай бұрын
Scott D'Amore, Dutch Mantell, Jim Cornette, Jeremy Borash. Looking back on it, those were the creatives behind the stuff I remember as what got me watching during the SpikeTV era. There were some highlights, but Hogan/Biscoff was what ran me off after the loss of the 6 sided ring. I didnt know anything about behind the scenes, i wasnt smart, while I enjoyed stuff like Curry Man and Sharkboy or the Woo off, but that couldn't keep me. I didnt make it through 2011. I didnt really know why until I came back after the Final Deletion and started learning about everything. The LU cross over and merger, Rosemary, 2017 got me back into TNA and Ive tried to hype them up to people and talked about the distinct and exceptional eras and runs theyve had. OvE vs Lucha Bros, the whole Rosemary and Bunny Saga, rise of Brian Cage, Johnny Impact. The pandemic and AEW talent raid hurt them. Theyve been rebuilding with star making like Speedball and Jordynne Grace. Joe Hendry is their latest success of masterful booking. I want TNA to get to where theyre a full power promotion again and not be a WWE feeder system though the NXT stuff has been good. TNA needs eyeballs and needs a more accessible channel than AXS. I still think that if the same product was on a bigger network, it would rival AEW.
@leopoldkain6815
@leopoldkain6815 Ай бұрын
Always love these videos ❤ thank you for the work
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl Ай бұрын
Excellent video
@alharron2145
@alharron2145 Ай бұрын
This is the most minor of minor points, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciated the reference to Hamada when discussion of the Knockouts came up. I had been following her career since ARSION, so I was thrilled when she joined the roster in 2009 (and subsequently furious about the ludicrous title stripping which led to her being sidelined & eventually leaving after barely a year). Of all the victims of the Hogan-Bischoff era, she was the one that infuriated me the most. I'd always held out hope she'd make a special appearance on NXT or AEW, even if it's just to put over a champion, but thus far that hasn't happened. As she's a 26-year veteran, I'm hoping that happens sooner rather than later...
@teetemz
@teetemz Ай бұрын
Me too. I was PISSED! Hamada was shafted by the Hogan-Bischoff administration in TNA
@pacdeloup
@pacdeloup 2 күн бұрын
Great piece. But would’ve loved for you to talk about Paul Heyman being asked to work for TNA but they cancelled because he refused to put over the older talent. I saw a more recent Q&A and he said he was going to bring in Bryan Danielson who said he would come over 😢 so upsetting.
@cenasux
@cenasux Ай бұрын
I remember in 2004-2005 emailing Foxtel, Australia's 'cable' TV provider and asking them to get TNA. I would have been fifteen. I was such a massive fan then
@PedroBenolielBonito
@PedroBenolielBonito Ай бұрын
38:00 is somehow the most TNA thing ever.
@bug5258
@bug5258 Ай бұрын
Dude... you left out the greatest TNA star of all time....... Ron Killings AKA R-Truth!!!!!!!
@extremeuzer3
@extremeuzer3 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but how could Jeff Jarrett, who saw what Vince Russo did to WCW, and say: “yeah we need to bring him into TNA”.
@DiversityJackson
@DiversityJackson Ай бұрын
Because russo pushed him to the moon in wcw. Russo was available for a discounted rate of pay. Plus other wrestling writers/bookers might've declined an opportunity to join a new company with zero infrastructure or assets and minimum resources.
@zakk219
@zakk219 Ай бұрын
I don't think all the blame goes to her but Dixie had no business running that company or especially being in front of camera. She knew nothing of the business and made decisions that greatly impacted the company in a negative way. She's one of the main reasons I'm surprised the company didn't die before now and it's a miracle the current regime and the regime under Scott D'Amore were able to pull it back to being a respectable promotion.
@limitedbom2206
@limitedbom2206 Ай бұрын
Man, that booking with Kurt and Joe really did a number. Just goes to show that recycling the same matchup that many times in a short about of time really starts to get old. Kinda like the whole Liv vs Rhea going on in wwe right now. It was fun, you can revisit it later, you gotta pivot at some point.
@BotchaLoa4
@BotchaLoa4 Ай бұрын
I don't care what anyone says Dixie Carter was and still is my childhood crush
@xavierwashington5408
@xavierwashington5408 Ай бұрын
Even as an 8 year old, i knew TNA goin to Monday night was so dumb. But i rm that first episode and i rm jumping to see Bret Hart on Raw, it was the closest it got for me to experience the WCW/WWF rivalry, but literally after that, i would just watch Raw and watch TNA the day after bc i had it recorded
@blanca0913
@blanca0913 Ай бұрын
this video was really well made!
@ajspringer
@ajspringer Ай бұрын
I've long thought Dixie was the main reason TNA fell as far as it did. There never seemed to be much she did that benefitted the company or its standing, and it always seemed to be in a slow descent. I was completely convinced when she let AJ Styles leave, and the manner in which he left has never felt right to me. I would love to see him have one last run in TNA just to right that sour ending.
@xavierwashington5408
@xavierwashington5408 Ай бұрын
As someone who watches TNA weekly (while im at work, I'm a bartender) its really boring. Like for some reason they're simply not gonna pull the trigger on Joe Hendry. Seriously NXT treats Joe Hendry better than TNA, he's always in a damn 6 man tag match against Moose's team. I think they're pushing Santana, but its weird seeing him by himself. Matt Cordona pops up sometimes. Curt Hawkins is still in a tag team within a faction, and i honestly don't know much of the wrestlers on the roster. Its clear once WWE gets Jordynn Grace and Joe Hendry, they're gonna kick TNA to the curb, and TNA is gonna go back to like 60k views a week or something
@krisandzee6825
@krisandzee6825 Ай бұрын
I love TNA I still watch it to this day it brought me back to wrestling after falling out of love with WWE that's where I first saw him.... The Phenomenal 1
@_Amit_Sunil
@_Amit_Sunil Ай бұрын
The answer like a heel cutting a promo is "YOU PEOPLE"
@jerrielexavier
@jerrielexavier Ай бұрын
I wanted someone to make this for WAY TOO LONG!
@ericcpalmer
@ericcpalmer Ай бұрын
Excellent video!!
@michaeldevany2066
@michaeldevany2066 Ай бұрын
5* nicely put together folks
@DeadHeadDraven
@DeadHeadDraven 8 күн бұрын
I was a die hard TNA fan for years but dropped off around the aces and 8's story line, kinda fits in with what was said in this video
@mmaduniya
@mmaduniya Ай бұрын
One of the best videos you have made
@Heydad956
@Heydad956 23 күн бұрын
You clickbaited me and yet I'm still interested.
@garrymclaughlan6433
@garrymclaughlan6433 Ай бұрын
The moustache is looking great Luke.
@Crazy56U
@Crazy56U Ай бұрын
Who killed TNA? Oh, let’s say… Moe.
@gorengot
@gorengot Ай бұрын
Amazing job 😊
@maley2552
@maley2552 Ай бұрын
I haven't been able to watch TNA since it's been on Axis TV. None of the cable providers in my area even have it as an option
@nerddad2180
@nerddad2180 Ай бұрын
2000s TNA is the reason I came back to wrestling, watching on Bravo was a highlight of my week!
@zionkid420
@zionkid420 Ай бұрын
Private Equity. Thats the answer. Thats the only answer. It's sadly also THE SINGLE MOST COMMON ANSWER FOR ALL GREAT PRODUCTS THAT BEGIN TO SUCK... Hedge funds are evil. It's literally in the name. They play both sides for a profit and the product is ALWAYS the cost of doing that 'business'.
@christopherwiessner555
@christopherwiessner555 Ай бұрын
I’ve always rooted for TNA. I remember being board with WWE in 2011 pre Pipe-bomb (not as good as Steiner math) and TNA was the first not WWE wrestling I found. And that’s how I learned I loved wrestling. Because it was still a car crash but the characters were more creative and did a lot of good work on TV off PPV when I couldn’t buy PPV. So seeing AJ, Joe, etc giving us free bangers was a treat for me every Thursday
@rezsurfer2808
@rezsurfer2808 Ай бұрын
I loved some TNA before around 2007 and was becoming more of a fan. Doxie came and kinda kept it same but in time it slowly got bad by 2011 i gave up the matches and gimmicks was going down hill... for me. I came back for matt hardys broken gimmick though that was to damn good to ignore
@michaeld1889
@michaeld1889 Ай бұрын
For the longest time I have blamed Hogan/Bischoff for destroying TNA. They ruined everything that made it different, buried home grown talent in favor of hogans friends. But...yeah. the bill stops with Dixie. Its her.
@RobertJW
@RobertJW Ай бұрын
They'll never escape LOLTNA though.
@number41dl
@number41dl Ай бұрын
Hearing how Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett wouldn’t let others move the company away from their ideas explains why Paul Heyman told Ariel Helwani “TNA isn’t ready” for him to take over creative. He outlined amazing ideas, but said that TNA wasn’t ready for someone like him - turns out they couldn’t bring themselves to hand over the car keys to someone who actually knew how to drive.
@danwojcik8306
@danwojcik8306 Ай бұрын
Sadly, it all comes down to Dixie Carter. She had the greatest influence on the trajectory of TNA. She didn't know the history of the industry and kept empowering people to make poor decisions for the company with no financial fall back on them for their failures. I followed the product from 2004 to early 2015. Changing away from the 6-sided ring cost the company a lot of their identity, as they suddenly looked like every other promotion. As much as I want to hate on her time in TNA, she was also one of the creative forces that helped to shape the identity of the company in the early years; most notably in how the show looked. I have read articles from years ago about how she would spend her own money in order to help build risers for the fans and actually would paint the set herself in order to cut costs so talent could be paid in the early days. That does not excuse the costs that went out during the Hogan/Bischoff Era though. The high dollar contracts undeniably hurt the product and ultimately cost the company dearly.
@soupsup8437
@soupsup8437 Ай бұрын
to be honest the current TNA is my favorite wrestling show every week
@deldominguez
@deldominguez Ай бұрын
I love Luke, that said, with the angle of the camera and the lighting..it looks like he has a uni-brow when hes talking.
@PapaLobo94
@PapaLobo94 Ай бұрын
I stopped watching TNA the day Sting got let go and when they rebranded themselves as “Impact Wrestling”. I still shake my head to this day as to why they would choose to hire Vince, Russo, Eric Bischoff, or even Hulk Hogan for that matter to give their company a boost and I also blame Dixie Carter for her decisions behind the scenes as well as well as her involvement at the time (even though I smiled when I saw Bully Ray put her through a table back in 2014)
@adamjohn8975
@adamjohn8975 Ай бұрын
Could you do one about NWA
@2128jrandall
@2128jrandall Ай бұрын
When Russo, hogan, and Bischoff got there, I knew it was over. They even survived Jeff Jarrett giving himself his own company's belt early on. Still, TNA gave me Monty Brown, AJ styles, beer money, MCMG, the best American female division with phenomenal (pun intended) women from Gail Kim, Awesome Kong, and so many more.
@hazardtriplezero
@hazardtriplezero Ай бұрын
Luke's become my authority on TNA. So much so that, when I watched Cultaholic's documentary on TNA, I wondered why they didn't give the assignment to Luke.
@Apricot_Lover-r2c
@Apricot_Lover-r2c Ай бұрын
TNA will outlast all of us, and Russo will still be complaining that people just 'didn't see his vision'.
@200f3
@200f3 Ай бұрын
Make a video on the aces and eights that was a key memory I have off tna/impact
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