WCW/nWo Starrcade 1998 - The "Reliving The War" PPV Review

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WCW/nWo Starrcade 1998 took place in Washington, DC on the 27th of December 98. The main event features Kevin Nash vs Goldberg; Kevin Nash won the World War 3 Battle Royal and he earned himself a shot at both the World Championship and the oppurtunity to end Goldberg's undefeated streak. The ending to Starrcade 98 would be talked about for a very long time.
Elsewhere on the card Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair have a match. After getting fired and brought back to WCW Slick Ric has wanted to get his hands on Bischoff, fans would get to see the showdown at Starrcade.
Other matches include DDP vs The Giant, Kidman vs Rey Mysterio vs Juventud Guerrera, and Chris Jericho vs Konnan.
This video is part of the Wrestling Bios "Reliving The War" Series.
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Rey Mysterio vs Kidman vs Juventud Guerrera
05:05 - Kidman vs Eddie Guerrero
07:35 - Norman Smiley vs Prince Iaukea
09:39 - Scott Hall Promo
10:39 - Ernest Miller vs Saturn
13:22 - Flair & Bischoff Promos
16:20 - Chris Jericho vs Konnan
19:13 - Ric Flair vs Eric Bischoff
22:26 - The Giant vs Diamond Dallas Page
26:33 - Goldberg vs Kevin Nash
30:54 - Final Thoughts / Credits
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@azapro911
@azapro911 10 ай бұрын
From here, covering WCW on Reliving The War will be like a 2.5 year acid trip.
@victoryusmc
@victoryusmc 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait!
@atlasblast2082
@atlasblast2082 10 ай бұрын
You're not wrong. This is the Epoch of disaster
@Dave0G
@Dave0G 10 ай бұрын
I remember on my own re-watch of the War a few years ago being surprised at how well 99 held up for wCw given the usual story. Now 2000, that was madness made manifest!
@benjaminmee3751
@benjaminmee3751 10 ай бұрын
And the first trip peaks the Nitro after this show 😂😂😂
@exilhamburger4802
@exilhamburger4802 10 ай бұрын
Actually, having Kevin Nash as the champ might have worked, give him a decent run, with some fresh opponents, who can work around him, or his big man wrestling style. Nash losing the belt to Hogan with the FpoD was the real problem. Even Hogan beating Goldberg directly might have worked better!
@shibbywwe
@shibbywwe 10 ай бұрын
This series deserves all the praise it gets
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 10 ай бұрын
Homeboy put the work in, in these series.. You can tell he is passionate about Pro Wrestling, video making and accuracy.. Dude is legit as they come..
@Billy-ot8mk
@Billy-ot8mk 10 ай бұрын
That Chokeslam counter into a Diamond Cutter was awesome.
@Roflcrabs
@Roflcrabs 10 ай бұрын
I think DDP's reaction to it made it more awsome like "did you see that sh*t!? Damn I'm good! Okay tired now."
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 10 ай бұрын
Yeah! That was fire 🔥🔥 DDP and Paul White was athletic as hell..
@KegOfMeat
@KegOfMeat 10 ай бұрын
Probably the second best Diamond Cutter reversal after the Jackhammer counter from Halloween Havoc.
@pushon10
@pushon10 10 ай бұрын
I agree
@panagenesis2695
@panagenesis2695 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, 1) they should've slowly built up Golberg over 2-3 years, 2) they should've had the nWo Hollywood vs. WolfPac civil war and 3) Goldberg should've entered Starrcade as the Challenger and been crowned with the belt to reign in '99. That storyline booking would've put them over WWF.
@UfodexENMD
@UfodexENMD 10 ай бұрын
This PPV showed how much of a beast Billy Kidman was after going 2 full matches back to back!!
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said!
@bnferguson9827
@bnferguson9827 10 ай бұрын
Billy Kidman was totally underrated!
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but they made him look too strong. I get why they did it though. I was always more of a Juvi fan.
@ianpilkington2037
@ianpilkington2037 10 ай бұрын
He always reminded me of a younger Bret Hart
@tobznoobs
@tobznoobs 10 ай бұрын
i rated kidman more than rey back then i had hoped better things when vince bought wcw but alas it was rey who flourished.
@denniswilliams6519
@denniswilliams6519 10 ай бұрын
Just imagine Vince McMahon pinning Stone Cold in the ring at WrestleMania. The amount of ego Bischoff had to *need* to get this win here over Ric is just disgusting really.
@chrisbelos2834
@chrisbelos2834 10 ай бұрын
erm... you know that Vince won the 99 rumble by throwing over stone cold, right? they both have big egos. the "vince mcmahon kiss my ass club" comes to mind.
@tomlehmann306
@tomlehmann306 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisbelos2834it made sense in storyline for Vince to win the rumble. Stone cold main evented mania anyways. If Eric won at Halloween Havoc or whatever it would have been better. Flair needed to win
@denniswilliams6519
@denniswilliams6519 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisbelos2834 Was dumb but least that win was to set up the main event of WrestleMania and Vince allowed Austin to hand him his ass the next month in a cage to get to WrestleMania. This was Bischoff just choosing to pin Flair at the biggest show for his own sake with no storyline advancement.
@chadarcher13
@chadarcher13 10 ай бұрын
@@denniswilliams6519 there WAS storyline development though, Flair got his win the next night on Nitro along with being President of the company and when you hear Bischoff talk about how WCW was a TV company first, you start to see why choices like that were made to accentuate the moments on TV instead of PPV
@exe2517
@exe2517 10 ай бұрын
@@chadarcher13 No surprise why WCW went out of business if that was their philosophy.
@Venemofthe888
@Venemofthe888 10 ай бұрын
Quite interesting that this is The Giant's last PPV appearance for WCW before he goes to the WWF the next year. He still has a little more to go on WCW Television but yh this is his last WCW PPV
@alreyes8393
@alreyes8393 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking about, Giant makes his final WCW TV apperance just 15 days later
@jayclifford9700
@jayclifford9700 10 ай бұрын
Delayed in Dublin Airport for 2 hrs and suddenly this drops. WB you've saved my sanity my good man.
@jonlester62
@jonlester62 10 ай бұрын
That Konnan/Lex/Bagwell/Steiner backstage segment was such foreshadowing seeing it now in hindsight.
@PJErvin
@PJErvin 10 ай бұрын
The impromptu match between Kidman and Eddie was so well booked, it almost made me forget the ridiculous scenario of the competitors deciding to have an impromptu match at the beginning of the year’s biggest event, two months after fans missed the main event for going over the allotted time.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
The sad thing is Turners own cable company was 1 of the company's shutting it off early. I watched on Cablevision and saw the whole thing that night.
@talkingben5190
@talkingben5190 10 ай бұрын
I cannot believe the likes of Jerry Flynn, Fit Finley and bloody Prince Ieukea got PPV time ON STARRCADE and not the likes of Luger, Hitman, Scott Steiner, Booker T, Malenko and Benoit. I simply can never get my head around it
@DBoy38
@DBoy38 10 ай бұрын
Bret was injured at the time.
@henry7696
@henry7696 10 ай бұрын
why would anyone want a luger match at a ppv? like the other old boys, he couldnt wrestle.
@talkingben5190
@talkingben5190 10 ай бұрын
@@henry7696 I'm talking about star power mate. Sure he wasn't over in late 98 like he was in late 96 - mid 97 but he'll get more interest than bloody Jerry flynn
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@henry7696 So what? Nash can't wrestle either, and Goldberg is a rookie. The point was WCW had a legion of talented guys, but didn't use them.
@TheCrimsonCretin
@TheCrimsonCretin 10 ай бұрын
I love that Norman Smiley getting some love on this show. I remember back in the day having fun watching Smiley. I always thought him and Ernest Miller were under rated
@druagamaniac
@druagamaniac 10 ай бұрын
i cant wait for hardcore champion norman smiley, always laughed at those segments
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@druagamaniac Screamin Norman 😂 in a suit of armor 🤣
@gregoryhoyle3739
@gregoryhoyle3739 10 ай бұрын
Even though WCW basically starts bleeding to death on this night, I hope you continue this series until the end.
@WrestlingCompilations
@WrestlingCompilations 10 ай бұрын
Me too
@eabcool
@eabcool 10 ай бұрын
yeah can you imagine how mismatched the next couple years of head to heads are going to be
@WrestlingCompilations
@WrestlingCompilations 10 ай бұрын
@@eabcool I wouldn't be surprised if WWE wins all the remaining episodes of Reliving The War
@gregoryhoyle3739
@gregoryhoyle3739 10 ай бұрын
@eabcool WCW has good moments going forward. They'll even win a few head to heads from this point. To make things fair, the point system should change again.
@HabsMike25
@HabsMike25 10 ай бұрын
@gregoryhoyle3739 I could be wrong but the night after Halloween Havoc 1998 would be the last time Nitro beat Raw head to head.
@mulldrifterz6469
@mulldrifterz6469 10 ай бұрын
I have very fond memories of this PPV as a kid, watching it live. I was 100% a Kevin Nash fan and wanted him to win, at the time. But him winning with Scott Hall's help? It turned me on him.
@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy 10 ай бұрын
Well you couldn't beat goldberg clean like he did wrath
@Machete87
@Machete87 10 ай бұрын
@@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy which is y Goldberg shoulda dropped the belt to Page at Havoc after the Diamond Cutter. It woulda seemed more legit n less anticlimatic than Nash's win..
@Ronfost89
@Ronfost89 10 ай бұрын
See I was fine with it, I loved Scott Hall and Nash as a team so seeing them work together made me happier than Nash winning.
@Hyde_Hill
@Hyde_Hill 10 ай бұрын
Was a fan of both and I was actually kind of glad to see Hall and Nash back together again. Had hoped that with Hall the Wolfpack would finally kill NWO black and white followed by implosion with WCW finally winning. Interesting how different people can react.
@Blue1479758
@Blue1479758 10 ай бұрын
​@Machete87 how does that make any sense? If anything it would have made it seem less legit. Nash was the only babyface at this time that was built up enough to beat him. Hogan likely should have been the one to beat him if you didn't want a clean finish.
@HarmonySword
@HarmonySword 10 ай бұрын
Kidman being the workhorse of the night is very respectable and both matches were great too. I love this series for making me appreciate BK after overlooking him for so many years.
@illmerica322
@illmerica322 10 ай бұрын
Wcw cruiserweight title was such a fun title back then... im getting all nostalgic from seeing these wrestlers when they were young... December 98 i was 11 about to turn 12...wow i miss those days, used to love nwo
@chibipoe
@chibipoe 10 ай бұрын
Eddie settles into the very rare crowd of people who CAN powerbomb Kidman.
@chibipoe
@chibipoe 10 ай бұрын
@@teo_heel This is true! And Eddie does try it a second time and gets properly chastised by Kidman. Even if you manage to powerbomb Kidman once, you definitely can't do it *twice*. :D
@PoeticProphetic
@PoeticProphetic 10 ай бұрын
I sure hope WCW have interesting plans for Kevin Nash after this and he doesn’t end up looking like a transitional champion 🏆
@AMFL3116
@AMFL3116 10 ай бұрын
"That doesn't work for me, brother!" 😂
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Sorry bro, he's going to lose the title to Hogan....twice. 😂
@michaelbreen7865
@michaelbreen7865 6 ай бұрын
SPOILER: NOPE!
@KIDTV-qe2dm
@KIDTV-qe2dm 10 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: This was on Goldberg's birthday 🎂
@michaelsaenz
@michaelsaenz 10 ай бұрын
Looking back now, I would love to see a Kidman versus HBK match.
@D4NK1
@D4NK1 10 ай бұрын
About time Goldberg was taken down a peg, so that young and upcoming stars like Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan could finally have their time to shine
@RonCorleone
@RonCorleone 10 ай бұрын
DDP as a heel or DDP as a face is the only person I feel could've and/or should've ended the streak. I think he's the only person fans could've accepted ending the streak. Even if Sting ended the streak I feel like people would've been like ""Okay...but why?" DDP just seems like the only one that makes sense(to me at least) in terms of believability, being someone the fans could accept, and someone who needed that big accolade.
@benjaminmee3751
@benjaminmee3751 10 ай бұрын
His finisher was the reason why it would’ve been believable but WCW couldn’t protect anything worthwhile so it got flattened too.
@SiReTV8929
@SiReTV8929 10 ай бұрын
But, I counted that scenario with DDP already had his big accolade when he had his legendary 3 match series against the "Macho Man" Randy Savage in 1997 and was a made man afterwards. Ofc, he hasn't won the World Heavyweight Championship but he would have gotten the same amount of flack for winning from the fans.
@ryankeefe2102
@ryankeefe2102 10 ай бұрын
Well yea the diamond cutter was a move that was established he could hit on anyone from anywhere at any time so goldberg goes for the Spear and jack hammer DDP slips out diamond cutter 123 even have goldberg kick out at 3.5 if you like but that would work
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature 10 ай бұрын
I don't mind how the streak ended. The problem comes in 2 weeks when they make it all meaningless, along with their top championship, which they will continue to do REPEATEDLY until the company dies.
@Shalashaskaa
@Shalashaskaa 10 ай бұрын
In hindsight that would have been at Halloween Havoc 98. But then you would have him lose clean. I still think Goldberg was still too over to lose the title clean
@markwebster76
@markwebster76 10 ай бұрын
To quote Count Dooku; "Ive been looking forward to this".
@benespinosa6725
@benespinosa6725 10 ай бұрын
Awesome Starrcade 1998 review on Reliving the War this PPV Was great Goldberg losing to Kevin Nash was crazy this series is amazing the opening match was fantasic.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 10 ай бұрын
The way Kidman wrestled back to back was awesome! Dude was so underrated! He doesn't get enough credit. A shame he retired early.
@HabsMike25
@HabsMike25 10 ай бұрын
Kidman was criminally underrated. Should have been pushed further but God forbid someone else gets a push over Hogan & friends
@mrdude88
@mrdude88 10 ай бұрын
I don't think Kidman was underrated at all. He was on TV every week and had so many pushes. Of course, those pushes weren't supposed to make him the heavyweight champ but as a cruiserweight, he had more than just cruiserweight matches. Surprisingly, Disco Inferno was also in the same boat. Very high mid-card.
@willkayl8793
@willkayl8793 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Kidman was the heart and soul of the Cruiserweight division along with Eddie and Rey. So innovative.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 10 ай бұрын
​@@HabsMike25, I agree but he just wasn't the right person to go against Hogan. But that wasn't his fault though.
@TheImapotato
@TheImapotato 10 ай бұрын
@@HabsMike25 Kidman was GREAT in the ring, but not good with everything else. He needed to be champ to get heat wherein Eddie and Misterio didn't need a belt to have psychology or storylines. Guys like Kidman have a place in wrestling for sure, but when WWE took over, you could tell it wasn't a good sign for guys like him, shame as he would have been the charismatic one in today's wrestling
@cabutler1
@cabutler1 10 ай бұрын
The cruiserweights carry the show once again. And Billy Kidman deserves all the credit for going in back-to-back matches. Especially after that triple threat. I can only imagine he collapsed in the back somewhere and the guys just let him sleep it off. As for the main event, we all knew that when Goldberg got the title, that undefeated streak was going to end. And really, the only way it was going to end is something like this, where it wasn't a clean win. But should Nash have been the guy to dethrone Goldberg? I think, if you're going to put the title on someone and beat Goldberg, clean or not, it should be somebody that can really help elevate the company and really draw attention. So, who would be my choice? It'd be fun to say Alex Wright or Normal Smiley, just for the laughs, but in all seriousness, I think it should have been Scott Steiner. Yeah, I know, hindsight and everything, but think about it. If you want to make the nWo relevant again, you should have an nWo guy win it. And I feel like Scott would work, even if he's essentially a transitional champion for a couple of months until they either give it back to Goldberg for the rematch, or put it on another guy, like DDP or Nash. But that's my take on it. Plus, I feel like you could get a serious amount of good story telling of Scott beat Goldberg and ended the streak.
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Scott stiener would've been a better choice than Nash especially since he waa leading the nwo. And Nash could've feuded with stiener after he won and it would've made more sense seeing how Nash...a babyface at the time won by shenanigans. To me bam bam or stiener would've been better choices than Nash But hey I'm not the booker
@m.night_schlongislong
@m.night_schlongislong 10 ай бұрын
At this time wasn't everyone in wcw terrified of a roided out Scott Steiner? Not sure they'd want to put the belt on a guy they couldn't control. As a fan, I do like the idea though.
@galarthenry1450
@galarthenry1450 10 ай бұрын
We almost there JAN 4TH IT’S COMING
@monarched
@monarched 10 ай бұрын
Regarding the nWo B-Team Vs Finlay/Flynn match, Finlay and Flynn had just teamed up in New Japan's World Tag League that year(FYI Finished last with no points) while Norton and Adams teamed on that same tour, but not in the League. So it wasn't completly random to some extent.
@MrSparkles5017
@MrSparkles5017 10 ай бұрын
Wow this is it and there is still gonna be 2 more years of this. It's a ride now
@MrSparkles5017
@MrSparkles5017 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 WCW is basically done for by the end of January it is astonishing how fast the drop off is.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@MrSparkles5017 Not done... but they reached the top of the mountain and the rest is just falling straight downhill.
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to hear what you think about Ric Flair stripping down to his Boxers on the Fallout from Starrcade 1998 to Challenge Bischoff once again for Control for WCW
@JosephTSena
@JosephTSena 10 ай бұрын
Was that real money he ripped up the following night on Nitro? We all know what the main event was that night.
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 10 ай бұрын
@@JosephTSena I think Flair actually had real money on him
@deandredukes95
@deandredukes95 10 ай бұрын
Every Starrcade main event all end in controversy
@ChrisDarnell001
@ChrisDarnell001 10 ай бұрын
Did Starrcade 2000 end in controversy?
@DBoy38
@DBoy38 10 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDarnell001 Not directly, but it would end up linked to the injury Sid suffered the following month at Sin.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
I don't see what really is the big deal about Starcade 96. It wasn't a title match, but that was already booked for February. Piper won clean. No DQ BS. No restart the match. No new referees. If you mean The Giant stuff, ok, but that doesn't take away from the match.
@brettrossi034
@brettrossi034 10 ай бұрын
Prince Iaukea's body stopped mid dive because Norman is too much man for him to move. Norman Smiley is truly an immoveable one and just wants to do his big wiggle finale
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 10 ай бұрын
How come he didn't beat Goldberg then?
@mitchellwooldridge5118
@mitchellwooldridge5118 10 ай бұрын
Jeez, that opening triple threat was pure fire - what an incredible match! :)
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Did you expect anything else... from those 3 guys?
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 10 ай бұрын
Man, those first two cruiserweight matches were phenomenal from a storytelling perspective. Imagine in WCW extended that level of care to the rest of the roster...
@ronaldsb3
@ronaldsb3 10 ай бұрын
I had to watch those cruiserweight matches after watching this….Bobby the brain really put Kidman over during the match on commentary. Fantastic stuff indeed by Kidman
@Nicksuavemusic
@Nicksuavemusic 10 ай бұрын
When you look back at the hard work these 4 cruiserweights put in in the opening match of wcws biggest annual show it’s crazy to think only Eddie and rey went on to be wwe champion years later Kidman and juve were incredible workers back then
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Rey being a heavyweight champion is almost an oxymoron. 😂 No offense, he does have talent.
@Nicksuavemusic
@Nicksuavemusic 10 ай бұрын
Crazy to think this was Goldberg’s only run as wcw champion he definitely should of had another title reign
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 10 ай бұрын
No he didn't. Goldberg sucked.
@PhenomsServant4
@PhenomsServant4 10 ай бұрын
@@teo_heel Which is why that doesnt count
@Nicksuavemusic
@Nicksuavemusic 10 ай бұрын
@@teo_heel sadly that’s was a dusty finish and Goldberg didn’t regain the big gold belt officially again until 2003
@IStevenSeagal
@IStevenSeagal 10 ай бұрын
Atleast Goldberg is known as one of the best wrestlers of all time. Roddy Piper and Razor Ramon also showed that you dont need the belt to be considered one of the best.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
One of the blinders WCW did. I can understand the need to give other people the title (especially DDP), but the title should have circled back to Goldberg.
@mikeharless4596
@mikeharless4596 10 ай бұрын
Always a great day when WrestlingBios uploads 😊
@ahmadceasar5484
@ahmadceasar5484 10 ай бұрын
That triple threat match for the cruiserweight title is my favorite WcW match of all time
@tomlehmann306
@tomlehmann306 10 ай бұрын
Lex wearing fubu is peak 98
@harsha1989able
@harsha1989able 10 ай бұрын
The Big Show at his physical peak... Wow...
@brianadkins3880
@brianadkins3880 10 ай бұрын
Wow. What arguably was considered WCW's biggest show of the year and this was the best they did. There was so much talent and so many other matchups they could have went with. Having said that ,I'm glad he didn't completely bury it as he is right about those specific matches.
@rustykuntz94
@rustykuntz94 10 ай бұрын
They have Benoit & Malenko amongst others on this roster and they’re not booked on STARRCADE??!!! Insane
@Takeabottledrinkitdown
@Takeabottledrinkitdown 10 ай бұрын
@@rustykuntz94what bret injured ?
@ds4life886
@ds4life886 10 ай бұрын
The biggest show of the year for WCW under Bischoff was always Halloween Havoc. See all the card from 94 to this one (last HH and Starrcade under Bischoff). It is clear the most important ppv between the two. Starrcade was the second PPV for importance, the classic, the granddaddy of them all, but Halloween Havoc was the PPV number one as importance
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
You realize WCW would rather redo the Montreal screw job (again) than put out a good show.
@BookslingerMonty
@BookslingerMonty 10 ай бұрын
The night the decline of WCW got carved in stone
@silver6kraid
@silver6kraid 10 ай бұрын
Starcade 1997 was the beginning of the end. This is the point of no return where they could no longer stop the downfall.
@Dr-Alexander-The-Great
@Dr-Alexander-The-Great 10 ай бұрын
Just wait, two weeks later, we got the finger poke of doom.
@stephenrobinson8244
@stephenrobinson8244 10 ай бұрын
I think finger poke of doom / Mick Foley's win was the tombstone put in place of the death of wcw coming. But this is a choke out event for sure
@dougbarrett619part2
@dougbarrett619part2 10 ай бұрын
@@Dr-Alexander-The-Great I'm getting WW2 flashbacks now
@TheFriendlyWeirdo
@TheFriendlyWeirdo 10 ай бұрын
@@silver6kraidI personally think it was the Fingerpoke of Doom. That moment solidified that things would probably never change, and they didn’t until Bischoff left.
@rustykuntz94
@rustykuntz94 10 ай бұрын
Agreed it was terrible to have Easy E go over Flair while at the same time it was so predictable how this one ended. WCW’s continues downward spiral as we go into 99
@DBoy38
@DBoy38 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention, in the end, Bischoff's win meant nothing as Flair would end up winning the rematch the following night's Nitro.
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 10 ай бұрын
@@DBoy38Yeah Flair got his revenge
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@mizer9510 It was so awesome.... but just for that 1 night. 😂
@reylopez8433
@reylopez8433 10 ай бұрын
I didn't hate Goldberg losing to Nash, but the Fingerpoke of Doom was when I officially tuned out.
@reeseangle9621
@reeseangle9621 10 ай бұрын
Man I loved Jericho in 98 WCW had so many great wrestling moments
@louisvelez40
@louisvelez40 10 ай бұрын
I know the focus is the end of the streak but man I must say Billy Kidman deserves his flowers for how much of an underrated performer he was. Fun to watch in the ring
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 10 ай бұрын
He needs to be in the Hall Of Fame
@newavengerxx4428
@newavengerxx4428 10 ай бұрын
It's so much worse when you consider that Starcade '98 took place on Goldberg's Birthday. Think about that; Goldberg got stunned by a taser, his unbeaten streak was broken and he lost the WCW Championship... on his friggin' Birthday. OUCH!
@zacharythomason7359
@zacharythomason7359 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for that info.
@newavengerxx4428
@newavengerxx4428 10 ай бұрын
@@zacharythomason7359 Don't thank me. Even I recognize it's kind of useless info in the grand scheme of things.
@alreyes8393
@alreyes8393 10 ай бұрын
Goldberg's streak should've ended at Halloween Havoc vs DDP
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 10 ай бұрын
This is a insult
@timhickey80
@timhickey80 10 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s not unfair to say that Kidman was the secret MVP for WCW in 98. He’s put on some bangers since getting off the smack.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking Jericho was but I’m not mad at your take. Both these guys gave a lot of good matches in the ring in 98.
@Baloothepibble
@Baloothepibble 10 ай бұрын
This is it! This is when I went from a WCW kid to a WWF man.
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 10 ай бұрын
For me it was a couple of weeks later, and then when Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, and Saturn switched I never watched Nitro again.
@gp.5989
@gp.5989 10 ай бұрын
​@mizer9510 I'm in the same boat. I grew up a WWF fan, but watched Nitro too because of my Dad. He would be in charge of flipping back amd forth. After this, there wasn't much flipping back.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@mizer9510 They lost something great in Saturn. Highly underrated or underused.
@cachod2211
@cachod2211 10 ай бұрын
So we got here... what a long way the channel has come, still rocking
@HabsMike25
@HabsMike25 10 ай бұрын
Goldberg's Streak had to end but Kevin Nash didn't need to be the person that ended Goldberg's Streak as he was a made star. DDP should have ended it 2 months earlier at Halloween Havoc. DDP is humble at first but slowly develops an Ego & turns heel. You would have Goldberg chasing a heel DDP which would have been so much better than what actually did happen.
@coreyhall1150
@coreyhall1150 10 ай бұрын
Exactly DDP shoulda been the guy........ But............... The clique.
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 10 ай бұрын
i mean, in all fairness: Nash was over at hte time. Had his reign as a heel champion that, as Nash later suggested, tries to one up Goldberg's streak while dodging him, until Goldberg gets him, happened, we might be talking about it differently. Buuut... Fingerpoke of Doom.
@HabsMike25
@HabsMike25 10 ай бұрын
@coreyhall1150 When DDP countered Jackhammer to Diamond Cutter that is when Goldberg's Streak should have ended. It would have been unexpected & shocking but when they alow active stars to be the Booker, no good comes out of it
@coreyhall1150
@coreyhall1150 10 ай бұрын
@@HabsMike25 Exactly right.
@HabsMike25
@HabsMike25 10 ай бұрын
@@coreyhall1150 What is criminal is David Arquette & Vince Russo would become WCW World Champions over Goldberg after this
@creamreviews1607
@creamreviews1607 10 ай бұрын
Look, I know reliving the Wolfpack has been underwhelming in this series, but as a kid, this was the pinnacle for me. I was a huge Kevin Nash fan as a kid and I was very much behind him to take down Goldberg and end the streak to capture the championship.
@thisisnotachannel
@thisisnotachannel 10 ай бұрын
I was 17 when this aired... and I was all about The Wolf Pack, and Big Kev beating Moldberg for the strap... I never liked him as champion, and his "streak" was always a joke to me.. glorified squash matches. But honestly? At that point in WCW? It wouldn't have mattered to me WHO took the title from him... or how. It could've been Norman Smiley... as long as it wasn't Moldberg.
@auraofazure
@auraofazure 10 ай бұрын
A few months ago, we were at the peak of WCW. And now, we have hit the beginning of the end. Strap in. The rest of WCW is going to be a wild ride.
@henry7696
@henry7696 10 ай бұрын
its interesting how it works. pride comes before the fall, but its amazing how suddenly it flipped around
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
But not a roller coaster. More like an acid trip. 😂
@robcressey7228
@robcressey7228 10 ай бұрын
And in just eight days after this, the War was over. The fact that they just blew it is still mind-boggling. Had the money, the networks and a stacked roster. Had 6 months before this drew 41,000 in Atlanta for a Nitro. And then just killed it dead. The definition of Epic Fail.
@tomlehmann306
@tomlehmann306 10 ай бұрын
All because of ego and incompetence.
@danalong1237
@danalong1237 10 ай бұрын
The true end of the War came on 26 March, 2001, when WWE acquired WCW and ended the War against Nitro once and for all.
@AMFL3116
@AMFL3116 10 ай бұрын
"I won the title in front of 400,000 people that night, brother! It was the fingerpoke of doom that was heard around the world!"
@danalong1237
@danalong1237 10 ай бұрын
“If you’re even thinking about changing the channel to our competition, fans, do not, because we understand that Mick Foley, who wrestled here at one time as Cactus Jack, is gonna win their World Title! Ha! That’s gonna put some butts in the seats, heh!”
@chadarcher13
@chadarcher13 10 ай бұрын
the ratings and attendance numbers tell a different story, the company was still rolling along making good money up until early April which was not only long after the finger poke but also the nWo Elite had run its course by then as well... don't buy into the WWE propaganda machine, WCWs dying moment was losing the Radicals, after that they had zero chance of gaining any sort of lead ever again
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 10 ай бұрын
WCW.s last good Starrcade & it wasn't that good Starrcade was actually wrestlemanias father for those that know the story RIP WCW Gone but never forgotten
@jamiewiesner135
@jamiewiesner135 10 ай бұрын
Starrcade was the grand daddy of them all.
@danalong1237
@danalong1237 10 ай бұрын
Starrcade was WCW’s granddaddy of them all and WrestleMania was, and still is, WWE’s granddaddy of them all!
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@danalong1237 Yeah, but Starcade is also WWF's granddaddy. Starcade came 1st.
@reecepower8906
@reecepower8906 10 ай бұрын
*Turns volume up to max when the Norman Smiley bit starts
@user-qj6bq7ks9o
@user-qj6bq7ks9o 10 ай бұрын
The Norman Wiggle is are new Saturday Wright Fever in the absence of Das Wunderkind
@grandmastermario3695
@grandmastermario3695 10 ай бұрын
In wrestling all undefeated streaks, have to come to an end eventually.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Isn't David Arquette still undefeated at 1 & 0 😂
@raedvalenzuela5085
@raedvalenzuela5085 10 ай бұрын
Geez, and now is the beginning of the end for WCW. Looking back on all this, it’s starting to become depressing in Reliving the War
@MrGinja123
@MrGinja123 10 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is Norman Smileys entrance music but if it is then it fits him perfectly 7:43
@bigpoppajersh
@bigpoppajersh 10 ай бұрын
Ahhhh yes the fresh smell of wrestling bios on a Sunday. All is right again in the universe. We all know the random tag team match was a Consession stand/bathroom break for those in the building and at home to get the pizza from the delivery man/oven so they can fuel up for the main event
@camwatson9172
@camwatson9172 10 ай бұрын
WCW cruiserweight division always blew the WWFS light heavyweight division out of the park
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
My friends would always say... if you wanted a good match you watched WCW, if you wanted a good soap opera you watch WWF, and if you wanted violence you watch ECW. 😂
@AFMountaineer2000
@AFMountaineer2000 10 ай бұрын
Only just realized when he ran down all of the Horsemen being barred, he didn't mention Mongo. I must've forgotten the mention about Mongo no longer being apart of WCW
@richardstephens5570
@richardstephens5570 10 ай бұрын
He mentioned McMichael was escorted out of the arena by police 1:00.
@AFMountaineer2000
@AFMountaineer2000 10 ай бұрын
@richardstephens5570 thanks, I somehow missed that
@robattewell6087
@robattewell6087 10 ай бұрын
The beginning of the end for WCW
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
lol
@KingSigy
@KingSigy 10 ай бұрын
I think people dislike the Nash vs Goldberg match more for what it did to WCW. After this point, WCW just tailspins until it dies. It honestly never gets better, even if some moments beyond this point are fun. As for Goldberg, I still love the guy. He's not the most technical wrestler and his gimmick did wear thin, but the dude absolutely looked the part of a powerhouse. In the moment, his streak was legendary.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 10 ай бұрын
Looking at this 2 decades later, his streak was overrated. The 2 most memorable moments was winning the world title on nitro & his 1 good match vs ddp.. other than just a bunch of squash matches, no good storylines or promos.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Well yeah... but on top of it Nash is a no talent hack.
@tsstevensts
@tsstevensts 10 ай бұрын
Shocking. Positively shocking.
@retepoteil
@retepoteil 10 ай бұрын
I really wasn’t into wcw. But was a huge Goldberg fan. When I found out how he lost never watched wcw again
@alexloyola6762
@alexloyola6762 10 ай бұрын
That’s always been an interesting take for me. Not saying you were wrong for choosing to not watch anymore (you ended being right 😅), but I think my favorite stories always came from the chase.
@retepoteil
@retepoteil 10 ай бұрын
@@alexloyola6762 I didn’t mind him losing but him losing like that I thought was weak.
@alexloyola6762
@alexloyola6762 10 ай бұрын
@@retepoteil Yeah, not the best way to end such a monumental streak. Definitely agree with you there.
@retepoteil
@retepoteil 10 ай бұрын
@@alexloyola6762 to me the true end of wcw was when the radicals came to wwf
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@retepoteil Not really, if anything it was respectful to his character. It allowed him to keep that kayfabe tank status. I know that WCW made a big mistake in 99 by not circling back to Goldberg as champion.
@youngtevvwrld3591
@youngtevvwrld3591 10 ай бұрын
Found this on vhs at the thrift store when I was 10 years old. I begged my mom to buy it because I wanted anything wrestling related at the time. She bought it for like $5 and as a kid, i thought it was the greatest thing ever. Watching as an 22 year old adult it’s not so great 😅
@michaelreich4827
@michaelreich4827 10 ай бұрын
Starrcade '98 was to "subverting expectations" as The Last Jedi was to "subverting expectations".
@tommyfraz.
@tommyfraz. 10 ай бұрын
Bash at the Beach 2000 has to be Halloween Ends.
@ham-mantheman-ham634
@ham-mantheman-ham634 10 ай бұрын
Any day wrestling bios uploads is a good day!
@matthewdejoy-wm6mr
@matthewdejoy-wm6mr 10 ай бұрын
I always loved Kidman shooting star press, ik he landed awkwardly on a fewvppl but idk it just was awesome looking
@philminkeesickquayash8988
@philminkeesickquayash8988 10 ай бұрын
The Cat's failed attempt to attack Saturn from behind, had me laughing... I totally forgot about that... 🤣🤣🤣
@loboneiner1034
@loboneiner1034 10 ай бұрын
Seems like every Starrcade did something to hurt WCW since Hogan joined
@furyianz
@furyianz 10 ай бұрын
This ppv was trip at that time!
@brianb99
@brianb99 10 ай бұрын
Paul Wight was so damn impressively athletic in WCW and never got the real push he should have in the WWF.
@micahhill4786
@micahhill4786 10 ай бұрын
Eddie,Rey, Kidman, and Guerrera really stole the show before the people got their chance to get comfortable to watch. Now the whole Goldberg streak ending, if Scott Hall was in better shape mental set wise and hell even physically because you can tell he was slacking a bit. It’s an argument that he should be the one to beat Goldberg. Nothing against Kevin Nash the crowd was into him winning the title but I think really the people would love for Scott to get his crowning achievement.
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
Hall was,awesome!
@DaveFromVh1
@DaveFromVh1 8 ай бұрын
Seeing this live as a kid was so good, I was freaking out at the ending😂😂
@SuperSonicShadow27
@SuperSonicShadow27 10 ай бұрын
You know you’ve seen a lot of WrestlingBios when you can recite the Brass Knucks line with him. 😂
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 10 ай бұрын
You mean those brass knucks that aren’t brass knucks but we’ll call them brass knucks?
@nakamaswarrior292
@nakamaswarrior292 10 ай бұрын
Great Video! I remember watching this ppv live at a friend's house. This was a very nostalgic ppv for me.
@LongLiveRockAnRoll
@LongLiveRockAnRoll 10 ай бұрын
Right, so we know it's only 2 weeks until the "butts in seats" episode of Nitro. The question for the remaining episodes of Reliving the War isn't "Can WCW win?" it's "how many points can they get between now and March 2001?" I'd be surprised if they made it to double digits in 2000.
@ds4life886
@ds4life886 10 ай бұрын
Well, WWF in 1999 was better, but not so much better... 2000 I think will be a 52-0
@LongLiveRockAnRoll
@LongLiveRockAnRoll 10 ай бұрын
@@ds4life886 agreed, it was probably the worst year of the Attitude era. Strange because 98 and 2000 were so good.
@chrisbelos2834
@chrisbelos2834 10 ай бұрын
The Streak ending was bigger than Taker's streak ending at WM. End of a era.
@Takeabottledrinkitdown
@Takeabottledrinkitdown 10 ай бұрын
No way, Goldberg was a terrible wrestler and all his matches were squash matches
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
​@@Takeabottledrinkitdown He wasn't terrible. He wasn't meant to be great. He was a rookie tank. Nash was a terrible wrestler.
@stevenflemons6177
@stevenflemons6177 10 ай бұрын
First off, thank you for what you do. I’ve been watching all episodes from the start of the series. This show holds a special place in my heart cause it was the first live wrestling show I ever attended. I went WILD when Nash pinned Goldberg for the belt!
@TheFriendlyWeirdo
@TheFriendlyWeirdo 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t that tag match with Norton and Adams make more sense if Malenko & Benoit were facing them since they were the ones feuding with the Black & White?
@donypaddy6859
@donypaddy6859 10 ай бұрын
Blame Bischoff and his booking.
@TheFriendlyWeirdo
@TheFriendlyWeirdo 10 ай бұрын
@@donypaddy6859 Yeah, he books a lot of filler on Starrcade shows he booked. I think 1995 & 1996 are the only Starrcade shows without an abundance of filler that Bischoff booked.
@JobberBud
@JobberBud 4 ай бұрын
What makes the Kidman/Guerrero match even more impressive is Eddie was wearing hiking/construction boots instead of standard wrestling boots.
@alexharvey4345
@alexharvey4345 10 ай бұрын
Time for some more top quality Bios
@FUNKnnFLY
@FUNKnnFLY 10 ай бұрын
I've been doing a WCW watch from 95 currently up to November 99 and honestly when it came to the main event I didn't mind Nash winning, he was the second biggest babyface in the company behind Goldberg in 98 so it made sense to me. I definitely could of done without that cattle prod though. Looking forward to you doing 99, I didn't mind the product too much from here to around April but after that the product gets messy fast.
@maxeybailey718
@maxeybailey718 10 ай бұрын
Re-watching as an adult I appreciate some of these guys from WCW way more especially kdog and ddp man!
@hectic105
@hectic105 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the Goldberg run being poor and the title needing changed at that point (maybe if he actually worked with Jericho that could have changed). The problem was never that Nash won it (he was super over at the time and was a big enough name to justify it), it’s what they did afterwards that made it all worthless. Nash gets the belt only to just give it to Hogan? Nash basically buried himself in that segment. There were so many options they could have gone with, yet they picked what was probably one of the worst that could have possibly been conceived. While I was watching WWE more often than WCW at that point, I remember liking that Nash won it at the time since I wasn’t a big Goldberg fan. But yah, they just butchered it, along with Nash’s character, Goldberg, and the belt itself really.
@jonathanpeck6112
@jonathanpeck6112 10 ай бұрын
Now here’s the one thing I have never understood about this whole situation is Goldberg and Nash are barely have interactions during the Starrcade 98 build. But pretty much of the build of this is Goldberg are having brawls on Bam Bam Bigalow since he joined the company. I think that’s the reason some people are surprised that Nash broke the streak because they barely interact with. I do have a theory some people think with he barely have interact with Nash because I he beat him at Starrcade . Bam Bam would be his next opponent in the next ppv and some people think if that happened. Bam Bam would become World Champion and break the streak. I wish they could have gone that route.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 10 ай бұрын
Even earlier in the year where they made sting wait so long to actually win the belt. Once he won he only held it for 2 months, dropped it to savage, just for the belt to end up back in hogans hands the following night.
@georgemetcalf8763
@georgemetcalf8763 10 ай бұрын
First WCW PPV I watched/bought when I had gotten back into wrestling shortly before Goldberg won the title. Also great version of Goldberg's theme.
@dereksather5921
@dereksather5921 10 ай бұрын
This was the very first PPV I remember watching as a kid!
@xtracheesepls776
@xtracheesepls776 10 ай бұрын
Always appreciate these important timeline ppv reviews . It's so fun for those who started watching since the beginning
@sleepy__boi
@sleepy__boi 10 ай бұрын
That diamond cutter was brilliant. Easily my favorite.
@victoryusmc
@victoryusmc 10 ай бұрын
Love watching the PPVs before watching your reviews. Make them more worth while.
@therealspikeflee
@therealspikeflee 10 ай бұрын
Just wanna say I appreciate all the vids man, all of them.
@jbanks979
@jbanks979 10 ай бұрын
The reputation of this show is entirely characterized by what happens about a week later. Goldberg got six months on top with about one year of heat building up to that. A competent company would have used this to make Goldberg a more interesting character…. I can’t believe we’re here (a trumpet mournfully plays in the background)
@CurlyFromTheSwirly
@CurlyFromTheSwirly 8 ай бұрын
It's not totally characterized by the next week finger poke fiasco. This PPV ended with another attempt at doing a Montreal screw job copy. WCW should have worked on making Goldberg more interesting as you say. Or at least pushed a new star. Instead WCW pushed 2 old stars.
@mongomongo7664
@mongomongo7664 10 ай бұрын
We are days away after this show I believe Eddie Guerrero has his car crash so happy he survived
@randomramblings2325
@randomramblings2325 10 ай бұрын
Billy Kidman is vastly underrated in my opinion, very under appreciated as a Ressler he got overshadowed when he went to WWE was just useless cannon fodder when he deserves so much better
@mattberg5315
@mattberg5315 10 ай бұрын
Gonna be a great Review. Shocked to be so Early In the Comments. Brother, You made the greatest Series in KZbin! Thank you So Much.
@elec8101
@elec8101 10 ай бұрын
Oh, boy. I'm going to look forward to your analysis of WCW in the 99 year.
@curthenning6833
@curthenning6833 10 ай бұрын
I know nitpicking WCW leads to nothing but confusion but they announced the main event was no DQ (and Nash hits a blatant low blow during said match) so then why was Nash able to force a rope break during the leg lock?? anyway Kidman and the cutter were highlights for me.
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