8 Times Iron Claw Lied To Your Face

"The Iron Claw" tells the true story of one of wrestling's most famous families, but some details of the narrative aren't exactly accurate. From a missing brother to a mysterious curse, this is what the movie gets wrong about the tragic tale of the Von Erichs.
#Wrestling #Movie #TheIronClaw
Fritz's controversial backstory | 0:00
No Waldo Von Erich | 1:31
No Chris Von Erich | 2:36
Chris' attributes went to Mike | 3:48
David’s death | 4:51
Lance Von Erich's cameo | 6:03
Kerry's suicide | 7:00
The next Von Erich generation | 8:42
"The Iron Claw" vs. reality | 9:36
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[@riotd.r.8363]

My wife: That was so sad. Was all that true? Me: Mostly, the true story is much sadder.

[@phil-1115]

I would say not even mostly true. The basic story line is true. That's about it.

[@riotd.r.8363]

I mean the timing is off and a person is missing, but overall mostly true

[@lilspliffster88]

Chris is so tragic I wish they would’ve shows chris’s life

[@erickhernandez3423]

​@@lilspliffster88 and he loved wrestling the most

[@uchoward1ify]

Movie was a flop. They skipped out many details. My respect to Kevin for carrying the extreme family load.

[@nastee10]

Yes, if you walk up to a stranger and tell them, I had four brothers. One died suddenly from an unexpected medical ailment, and the other three all killed themselves in a span of six years. That person would probably find it hard to believe. An overwhelming amount of tragedy.

[@TheScottronica]

Oh...and my oldest brother died in a freak accident at 7.

[@rocksk8boi]

​@@anecessaryevil6879​​Jack Jr was 6 years old when he died when Kevin was just shy of his 2nd birthday

[@mikelachey824]

Except the true story is that there were 6 brothers and 5 died. They actually included the youngest and completely disregarded Chris

[@rocksk8boi]

@@mikelachey824 Chris was the youngest dude. Jack Jr was the eldest bro. I was mad they left Chris out, I understand why it was done but ita wrong hes not even mentioned. The photo of the family on the wall never made sense with him missing from it so he should have at least been on that.

[@Ah_Yote]

@@rocksk8boi Kevin said he was 3 and still remembers that day they found Jack

[@Monte74Bello]

They lied to me making me think a 5'7 145lbs guy was Kerry Von Erich

[@stolbez666legend]

Yeah, that was one thing that kind of bothered me. If you look back at the Von Erichs, Kerry was built. So it was kind of weird having a muscled out Efron as Kevin with Kerry being so much smaller. But, it was forgivable (I'm a fan of Jeremy Allen White).

[@whiterm2]

I feel like they should have switched them. That to me would have made it a lot better.

[@evilTaker90V2]

That was the one thing that bothered me too, not only the height but their physical condition, Kevin was in phenomenal shape no doubt, but I always remember Kerry having the most muscle mass.

[@SoundsFromTheRock]

​@@evilTaker90V2kerry was like almost as big as schwarznegger in his acting career. He had a godly physique. Its like they smashed chris and kerry together into one character

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

How the hell did they get the casting so wrong when it was right in front of them. Jesus

[@1neOfN0ne]

You want a movie that shows an exact story exactly how it took place, watch documentaries. This film did an excellent job telling their story while making it entertaining as well

[@BiLLz66614]

EXACTTTLY!! I'm a hardcore wrestling fan. I watch everything. From now days, and back then. And yes... things are wrong... and yes timelines are wrong... But at the same time... Thats EVERY movie like this. They hollywood them up some to make them more watchable for any audience. Still was a very cool movie , and very fun seeing wrestlers like The Freebirds, and Harley Race brought to life again for this movie. Still very worth the watch.

[@jenniferemswiller7255]

Thank you! ❤

[@scottsetzke7967]

How did someone 5' 8 180 play the 6'2 260 lb kerry😂 the guy playing kevin is 6 ft 220 😅

[@illmatic9096]

@@scottsetzke7967 It's a movie, relax. Jeremy allen white did not look exactly like kerry but he done a great job acting like kerry. He got his body language and the way he walked and moved was so much like kerry. He's an actor. there are no actors that look like kerry and have the same build as him lol, he done a great job tho

[@constace2012]

Actually most docs nowadays are exceptional if they’re more than 50% accurate

[@dgm2485]

Am I the only one who thinks Zac Efron should have played Kerry Von Erich?

[@TheJpep2424]

Yes. Efron is 5'8" 160 lbs

[@rocksk8boi]

Definitely his build was closer to Kerrys than Kevin who was toned not hench and more of an athletic high flyer. Efron is too big and too short to be Kevin

[@provost5752]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought that.

[@benl.4577]

they probably felt zac could portray the character of kevin better

[@TheNotoriousJP]

Yes absolutely

[@gregwelsh2985]

I couldn't imagine losing 5 kids. Kevin said when Kerry died, it broke his father. Fritz and his wife got divorced, and he ended up dying alone. It's tragic.

[@MsJourneyfan]

Mike did not die "just outside the family home," he died at Lewisville Lake. And Kerry became NWA World Heavyweight Champion on *May* 6, 1984, not March 6. And for any young people who are new to the Von Erich story, Kevin also has two daughters, Kristen & Jillian, who were born before the boys, Ross & Marshall, even though the girls aren't mentioned in the movie.

[@phil-1115]

The movie shows Kerry killing himself right next to the house, Kevin finding him, and choking out his Dad. Actually, Kerry walked up to his Dad, hugged him, told him he loved him, and asked if he could take the gun out shooting. He went way out into the field by an old Oak tree they they played on as kids and shot himself there. Fritz thought Kerry was gone too long and went looking for him. Fritz found him dead. Kevin wasn't there at the time. This was told by Kevin himself. I am just amazed that Kevin didn't even know this movie was being made. He said that he found out when his daughters told him it was all over the internet? Why wouldn't you get information about the movie you are making from the only person left alive that was there at the time it happened?

[@MsJourneyfan]

@@phil-1115 You are 💯 correct on everything. I think the people who did this movie wanted to take ALL the liberties they took, and they wouldn't have been able to do that if Kevin was asked to consult on the movie. That's just my take

[@phil-1115]

@@MsJourneyfan, I think they want to make a fictional movie based on an actual event. There is no need to consult the person that was there if your goal is to make it all up as you go along.

[@MsJourneyfan]

@@phil-1115 I just hope people who didn't know anything about the family prior to seeing this movie, do some research afterword so they know the *whole* story. Kevin wrote a manuscript years ago about his family that he wanted to be made into a movie -- I wish that had been the basis for this movie. Don't get me wrong, it's a good movie. It just leaves out so much that's integral to the family's history.

[@phil-1115]

@@MsJourneyfan, I agree 100%.

[@RochellBarbara4690]

I feel so bad for Kerry to hide something like that and go through all that pain just to make your dad proud 😢

[@billblaski9523]

And what a job he did hiding, didn't anyone know Kerry had his foot amputated and he wore a prosthetic

[@jacksongamber5006]

Crazy they didn’t even involve Chris Von Erich..

[@dominiquejones3805]

I think itbworked 4 the movie. There was so much pain & heartache. They left it 2 the viewers interpretation of the mother getting a divorce also

[@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854]

He being saved for the sequel...

[@jacksongamber5006]

@@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 their is no part 2, and his death happened during the other brothers, not after so it wouldn’t make sense

[@victoriamccord1557]

Oh my gosh, Kerry's toes already look like they are dying and he's just smiling away. I'm glad the movie mentioned this because I saw an interview with Fritz and said the doctors only took half of Kerry's foot. Much respect for Kerry to continue to wrestle after the amputation of his foot.

[@jamiedolan3173]

I don’t care what they got wrong. I know the story. I adore the Von Erich’s. Kevin is a hero to me. We don’t watch movies to get the actual facts. We watch movies for the emotions they conjure up, the adventure they include, and the human element.

[@knomad75]

I agree with you about why we watch movies but in this case removing 2 of the brothers from the story is inexcusable. It's straying too far from the true story.

[@TBletsgo]

@@knomad75in a movie setting, you can’t have that much go on before an audience is fed up and each tragedy, as messed up as it is, loses the emotional toll. Plus, showing a little kid at the beginning pass would literally cause people to leave the theater

[@knomad75]

​@@TBletsgo i disagree. So if they make a war movie they should have only a couple of people die so it's not too much tragedy? If its based off of a true story show me the truth.

[@AdamPaul2222]

💯💯💯

[@jamiedolan3173]

@@knomad75 I do agree with that. I know Chris Von Erich wasn’t included. Kerry, Kevin, Mike, and David were included. I know Jack Jr wasn’t included. I can agree, but man…I still haven’t seen the movie yet. I just really wanna see this movie. I’m actually going through a terrible time. Which is why I haven’t seen it. It’s egregious all 6 of the brothers weren’t p it in the movie, but they say,”we can only do so much”.

[@burnz0021]

The guy who played Kerry was way too small, he is only 5ft7, Kerry was 6ft2 250 pounds, he would have been more suited to play Chris if they had Chris in the movie.

[@billblaski9523]

Lol that's what I was thinking too

[@blkpanther11]

I Agree

[@E.King1845]

Yes. Didn't look right him seeing him that short. Kerry in real life was a beast

[@Scorch1028]

I throughly enjoyed The Iron Claw. I think the essence of the Von Erichs’ story was captured in the film. One of the most difficult aspects of the film was watching Mike Von Erich struggle with the brain damage that followed his in-ring injury.

[@nexxlevel4590]

The movie is good. I say 8 out of 10. I thought it could’ve been longer and added more detail in certain areas. I thought it could’ve shown Kerry’s struggle with drugs a lil more and added Lance. It’s crazy how so many movies now are 230 - 3hrs long and don’t need to be yet this movie is barely 2hrs when there’s so much story to tell. But oh well, I enjoyed it overall

[@coreymach_]

I think Lance was in it. Theres a scene where Kevin is in a tag team match, hes trying to get tapped in but doesnt. You see his partner is blonde and wins the match. Kevin claps but you can see he isnt into it

[@San-li9ml]

@@coreymach_ And MJF was supposed to play a Von Erich right?

[@thomasmadden3080]

@@San-li9mlyes it’s MJF briefly as Lance

[@jongriffin6004]

Yeah, that should have made it as a miniseries. Too much story to cram into a couple hours.

[@stephenphillips6245]

Iron Claw should jave been 3 hrs long and would have been perfect with more wrestling matches.

If you understand it's a movie depicting the tragedy, then you're good with the movie. To really go into detail, you would need a miniseries. Very good movie. The scene towards the end where Kerry meets his brothers on the dock got to me.

[@slime4evrm475]

Yeah man started crying at that part

[@phil-1115]

My wife lost her only brother a couple of years ago. When Kevin said, " I used to be an older brother. Now I am not even a brother" my wife lost it. I didn't like that they erased Chris in the movie though.

[@Garbagejuice1207]

That final scene with Ross and Marshall telling their Dad they'll be his brothers now made me cry.

[@slimypickle19]

To fit everything in a 2 hr film wouldn't be a great idea. For what it was, it was a fantastic movie.

[@AlphachadEpicCollector]

MJF’s contribution wasn’t a cameo, it was a flat-out background extra! 😂

[@_WESTSIDE_]

Blink and you’ll miss it lol

[@EwanCumia]

He's still better than us, and we know it.

[@AlphachadEpicCollector]

@@EwanCumia Speak for yourself. MJF is not better than me, he’s an ugly troll.

[@jloion9870]

Efron shoulda played Kerry & the guy who played Kerry shoulda played Kevin

[@josephfootball8446]

They both should have played chris

[@logankerr8090]

despite some flaws, this was a great film! Efron could very well receive an Oscar nomination after his performance

[@frozenhell138]

It’s a movie. Not a Documentary. “Lied” is a strong word.

[@corrosivealtars]

It does lie about how certain behind the scenes protocols would have been. Several times. Flair coming into the Von Erich's locker room after a match, for a glaring example. It's worth pointing out because so many DO walk out of these kinds of films thinking it's all legit. Just because it's not a documentary doesn't mean it shouldn't strive for accuracy.

[@donaldyoung7362]

Exactly, they are doing this for cheap clicks instead of doing a good video that took effort.

[@Ah_Yote]

If you’re gonna make a movie about real people and their tragedies especially without consulting them make it fucking accurate everything that happens to that family is out there in the oublic leaving no real excuse to leave out something like and entire family mem ever directly connected to the tragedy

[@waliahmad3030]

Great movie I enjoyed it, but it really brothers me that they left out chris, as if his life wasn't important enough to add to the movie. This movie is a celebration of ALL THE VON ERICK S. To not mention Chris is a tragedy within it self. RIP to every last member of that family, they're definitely a important chapter in the history of professional wrestling that can't be overlooked.

[@billblaski9523]

I agree, the director was talking about having Chris would have just been too much tragedy and been too long so basically combined Chris and Mike into the Mike character. But I don't know, a good filmmaker could have made it happen

[@waliahmad3030]

@@billblaski9523 exactly agree 👍. Like leaving out a brother would have never been a option

[@Uncleed251]

Just some of the most devastating strings of misfortune and tragedy in pro Wrestling history they were through reason I started watching Wrestling Undertaker's resemblance to David and Mike and the fact that it was the reason fritz gave him his first gig shows the influence they had on the business during their short careers .

[@StevieShowcase]

if Kerry only knew how much the fans truly loved him ,

[@rashan296]

Facts 😢

[@inconvenientfacts6452]

My friends and I grew up in the UK in the 80s watching 'rasslin' and Kerry was our favourite. He was 6ft 2 270lbs pure muscle and had success in the WWF. Everywhere he went, the crowd went wild. He was a superstar. I'm so disappointed that they cast a little guy as him, as good as he is. When you saw Kerry, everyone was like, wow, that should have been captured in this film

[@speedgriffon2504]

@@inconvenientfacts6452 Agreed. I think the Kerry and Kevin actors should have switched roles. Kevin was muscular, but leaner and athletic. Kerry was the bulked-up one.

[@jrazz5969]

@@rashan296 Agreed! The texas tornado was a beast! Should've switched roles.

[@kaitlynleehagar1148]

Even 30 years later I cried like a baby when they covered Kerry's death in the movie.

[@jamesesslinger1976]

Would make a great mini series or a several season series based on the characters of the 1980s wrestling and trying to capture the magic of the time which was special. Also over 20 wrestlers from the dallas texas wrestling died of tragic deaths that would make for an interesting story indeed.

[@jpnelson7791]

The Iron Claw sacrificed legitimacy in favor of a movie story with creative license. Like a lot of so-called "True Stories" it comes down to "It's all about the money." It was "BASED" on a True story. It is still all Hollywood

[@anchmcle]

Appreciate the PA for the suicide prevention hotline at the end of this vid!! You rock!!

[@abelaldrich7831]

I battle depression everyday I'm on meds for it I agree 💯 if anyone needs help it's out there

[@nowtheworld138]

@@abelaldrich7831let’s not forget therapy helps too! As a fellow depressed person it’s saved me from my thoughts!

[@MonkeyHayden-uf7un]

Would’ve liked to seen more on Fritz and the way he controlled the boys. Like with holding money so they couldn’t go out n their own, how he cheated other wrestlers out of money, how he unloaded wrestler’s when they wouldn’t allow his kids all the glory. And yes I do know

[@justafan5598]

A lot was left out. As bad as Fritz was in the movie, he was way worse in real life.

[@ferroseed8768]

@@justafan5598 Ever heard about how at the Parade of Champions in 1984 (David’s tribute show where Kerry won the NWA worlds title) they miraculously found boxes of autographed David Von Erich promo photos they sold like hotcakes to the fans at the gate? Fritz had staff in the back forging his own dead son’s signature to make a quick buck at a show dedicated to his memory. To this day it’s muddied up the collectors market because there are still so many fake DVE signed photos floating around out there that people bought and held onto from that event believing them to be real because they were bought directly from WCCW.

[@firemonkey0291]

The movie did touch a bit on how fritz held onto money. When Kevin was looking at the financials he saw that it said he was paid more than he actually got.

[@layna-heyhey]

...kept Lance in the movie but removed an entire brother...the brother who in life couldn't be a part of the business as much as he wanted. Kinda sidelined Chris again. Question to those who have seen the movie (I just haven't yet) Is it worth the watch?

[@_WESTSIDE_]

Yes it’s worth the watch absolutely

[@stolbez666legend]

It's a good movie. Lance literally is on screen for less than two minutes. Only way I knew who he was is because I knew it was MJF. Chris being left out was because they already had four brothers and the father to focus on. They didn't want to oversaturate the film and because Chris' contribution would have been more about his suicide (Gunshot to the head, similar to Kerry's gunshot to the chest), they chose to not use him in the film. Jeremy Allen White doesn't have anywhere near the build of Kerry in the film, but still plays the part well. Ric Flair was probably the most disappointing character. The guy didn't really look like Flair, didn't sound like Flair, and only had one partial line that came off in the same style that Flair would deliver. Luckily, he only has a few minutes of screen time. Overall though, it was a wrestling movie that I think even non-wrestling fans would like.

[@FaizCaliph]

I mean ya. You didn’t do much while alive, then killed yourself. Not much reason to put him in the film.

[@layna-heyhey]

@@FaizCaliph you don't see the story do you? You're a person with a dream, a want, a desire but your own body denies the very thing the spirit wants . You work hard and despite that work you get nowhere. How many L's can you take before you give up? It is like Sisyphus pushing that bolder up the hill but falling back down over and over again. That's more of a story in line with the idea of "a curse" than a brother who had a drug issue which could have been under their control because they chose to do it.

[@FaizCaliph]

@@layna-heyhey exactly. No one wants to watch a story of someone taking Ls and then killing himself adding to the tragedies. I wonder if he even thought of his mother and what she’d go through losing him.

[@DebbieandEddieBFF]

2:42 That movie could have been over 3 hours, and it still couldn't have told the whole story. Awesome from the opening bell!!

[@JeffTullock-fs4de]

Kiel got a shout out. All the wars happened at Kiel. St. Louis got WCCW on top of WWF and “Wrestling At the Chase” on television. I saw Kerry vs Flair sold out at Kiel.

[@VolumedMusicMan]

I was stunned that they did not even acknowledge Chris Adams. He was a very instrumental wrestler in the territory during its hayday.

[@EmoEmu]

Having Kerry played by a small manlet is seriously weird.

[@RSsantana]

Yea

[@KNDAWG74]

Cruiserweight Kerry = 👎

[@shiestyrecords3225]

And bro did amazing...

[@dominiquejones3805]

2 me it should of been a roll switch. Zach looked more like Kerry

[@sethmann4478]

Kevin - now a senior citizen Jesus, good reporting

[@cgillit]

The movie would have been horrible if they tried to give it some supernatural voodoo curse backstory based on Fritz. There's enough crappy ghost/horror movies out there. That's practically all they make these days. Much more impactful to base it on real human tragedy and the complications of family and dealing with loss. Really, they could have easily turned this into an entire streaming series around the entire WCCW 80s craziness. The stories of Gino Hernandez and Chris Adams could have taken an entire season.

[@whiterm2]

Gorgeous Gina. Yeah his mom truly believes he was murdered. Especially what his Dark Side of the Ring episode portrayed. I love that series.

[@jenniferemswiller7255]

It says, "BASED" on a true story dammit. Why does everything have to perfectly accurate in a narrative artwork on film. Geez Louise. The film is GOLD.

[@speedgriffon2504]

It doesn't "have" to be, but that doesn't mean we can't disagree with decisions made by the writers.

[@dRoscoAZ]

If it was your family, you'd probably want the details to be accurate.

[@N30WULF]

As a person who grew up in the late 70’s and 80’s in Dallas, TX and going to the Sportatorium to watch WCCW on numerous occasions, in addition to my family being in the wrestling business and knowing the Von Erich’s personality, I can say that I was very disappointed in this movie. While the movie slightly touched on the kind of asshole Fritz was as a person, it never showed the monster he truly was. Fritz was the curse of that family! My uncle wrestled under the name of Killer Karl Kox and was once tag champions with Fritz, and he told us the truth about how abusive to his family Fritz was. None of the boys wanted to wrestle or follow in his footsteps, but Fritz forced them to. He is the reason all of them but Kevin killed themselves, and yes David’s death was a suicide via overdose that was covered up because he died overseas. When WCCW finally went under, mostly due to the poor management of Fritz, he is the one who basically forced Kerry to go to the WWF, because Kerry did not want to continue wrestling after losing his foot in the motorcycle accident. I can remember when Kevin sold WCCW to Jarrett to get out of all the debt Fritz passed onto him, and in a local interview he stated he would do whatever it took to prevent his kids and kids of his siblings from ever entering a wrestling ring. To be fair, no one knows how Kevin pulled through everything he did and didn’t follow his brother’s footsteps of taking himself to the grave, but a lot of drugs and alcohol were definitely involved. Then you add the fact that so much was left out of the movie, and as a true fan I would’ve been fine with it being a 3-hour movie to include the other family members and actually get the timeline of events correct. And the casting for some of the people was absolutely horrible. Kerry, for example, was not short and stubby looking. All I can say is I’m glad I pirated the movie vs paying money to see it.

[@user-ou2nz4jz9f]

I can’t wait to see it. But I really don’t think I’ll be able to get over the casting. Kerry was like a Hercules action figure come to life. He was gorgeous. I mean seriously?

[@anthonyterry8162]

It was a complete joke of a cast with the exception of Fritz. He nailed it. Zach should've played Kerry and David was just ok. Kerry and Mike... wtf?

[@illmatic9096]

If you go in this movie expecting it to be 100 percent accurate you won't enjoy it and you will start nitpicking. it's just a movie inspired by true events, relax. They done a great job, yes they don't really look like the people they are portraying but they all done a great job acting. Jeremy allen white was great as kerry even tho he dont really look like him or is as big as him. The body language and the way he walked was so much like kerry. They are actors and they done a great job

[@TBletsgo]

⁠@@anthonyterry8162David being okay?!? Harris Dickinson exuded charisma

[@jonaspopeiv9873]

That was the one thing that was hard for me to get past. I know I should have just ignored it and enjoyed the film, but it was tough. Still a great movie, though.

[@anthonyterry8162]

@@jonaspopeiv9873 same here. I watched halfway and couldn't finish it

[@TheMan-je5xq]

0:50 the iron cross is a German symbol but it does not symbolize nazism, it goes all the way back to the Napoleonic wars and is essentially a Medal of Honor I think

[@jamesesslinger1976]

I am a 47 year old tuff guy that cried at the movie theater watching this movie release day lol

[@Grogfury777]

🙋‍♂️51… same 😢

[@jamesesslinger1976]

@@Grogfury777 the last ten minutes was so sad and painful emotionally. I was totally surprised I shed a couple tears at the end. Good movie!

[@matthewlujan844]

Kevin said he stopped believing in the curse when he tried to get arrested and kill himself. He robbed what I believe was a gun store if I’m remembering what he said correctly. The guy he was robbing told him he loved him. He said that he broke down in tears and they all prayed together after that. He said,” it was a good day for Texas.” He decided that day to get on with his life. He was a great wrestler, but more so, he’s a great man.

[@analiysanchez9949]

They should have made it a 4 part mini series on Hulu or Netflix and told the truth

[@michaelrose1466]

A mini series would have also allowed them to focus more depth into each member of the family instead of primarily focusing on Kevin. It also could have delved deeply into each tragedy instead of quickly moving from one to the next.

[@renafan3333]

Kevin never believed in the curse. There are videos of him saying it is ridiculous while Kerry was still alive. I can accept some things not being 100% accurate. I understand some movies aren't meant to be biopics. I understand that. But this movie was ridiculous. Geno Hernadez and Bruiser Brody tagging? Fritz being the one against selling WCCW. That whole ridiculous scene after Kerry killed himself.

[@cmnslcf]

FYI, Gino Hernandez & Bruiser Brody held the NWA Texas Tag Team Title from 8-4-78 to 9/4/78.

[@basicbeefanomicsYT]

Just broke my heart like crazy that they didn't add Chris in the movie. It went so far as to act like dude didn't even exist which, as a brother, just hit me in my emotions so badly...they even added the first born Jack.. so there was no good reason for them to not add Chris. That made it just an.. Alright movie to me

[@nowtheworld138]

Took my 10 year old nephew to watch it and he was devastated. I’m a 38 year old wrestling fan who considers himself a historian/fan/mark whatever you want it call it and knowing the story and the fantastic dvd wwe released and it still made me teary eyed! And I consider myself jaded when it comes to sappy stuff. I get they had to fit in 40 years of family history for 2 hours and I don’t hate them for it. It’s an enjoyable heart breaking watch.

[@tulsaborn545]

Kevin Von Erich gave it the thumbs up..thats enough for me. I loved it

[@kraigowaffles2110]

The stuff left out was for time constraints mostly. And they DO talk about why they think they were cursed. And in reality, neither Kevin,Kerry,David OR Fritz believed in the cursed. And it is/was believed by his remaining family that the reason took his own life was his fear of going to prison.

[@user-pc8uq6df2k]

I saw the real story unfold over the years. No interest in seeing a movie with actors who look nothing like the family.

[@williammccollom6847]

Kevin actually had 4 children and his sons were too young when Kerry died, his youngest would have been a year old. He has 2 daughters that were never mentioned. Kerry's children were never mentioned and the movie ignored the addiction that plaqued the brothers except Kevin. And also glossed over how beloved the whole family was in Texas until the truth came out about their drugs and suicides, then the fans turned on them The movie told half the family's story

[@multivox]

Another lie: the film depicts Doris staying home during Kerry's title win against Ric Flair. Doris was at Texas Stadium that day. She even joined the family in the ring following Kerry's victory.

[@thesupervisor3270]

I just couldn’t get over Kerry being 5’9 in this movie.

[@kencoakley3959]

Back in early 1983, we received WCCW here in Massachusetts. On the 4th of July I went to a cookout at my aunt and uncle's place. I snuck into my cousin's room to watch WCCW. The main event was Harley Race defending his NWA title against Kevin. David came out to aid an injured Kevin. Race kicked David, who ran into the ring to retaliate. I was almost 17 at the time and it was then that I decided that I wanted to be a professional wrestler. When David died, so did my dreams of being a wrestler. I cried for weeks because I felt that I had failed. Soon after David died, our local territory, the WWF poached the best wrestlers from all the territories and turned them into cartoon characters so I stopped going to the old Boston Garden every month.

[@kfajo27]

I get that it's normal for biopics to take liberties with the accuracy of historical facts, but the omission of Chris Von Erich is a bridge too far for me.

[@rondoughhowell6442]

Most true story movies aren't always 100 percent accurate

[@AndreColeman-bp4kp]

Kerry was never on track to be in the Olympics. His best throw was not even close.

[@wyattrussell7496]

They have no problem killing for action movies or horror movies but a real life story? The audience can’t handle it? Shut up

[@49ersfttb]

What's really messed up is Chris wanted to be in the ring with his brothers, and it couldn't work out for him. And now he's cut from the movie!!! What a slap in the face of that young man's legacy!!! Not only did he get over looked in the ring but he was totally cut out of the movie!!!!!!

[@jamilray2]

They need to do a WCCW movie. The Iron Claw could have been much better than that. Personally Zach Efron look more like Kerry Von Erich and the guy that played Kerry should’ve played Chris Von Erich because I don’t understand why he wasn’t apart of the movie.

[@williamslater-vf5ym]

When I found out they completely deleted one of the brothers, I lost interest. I can't stand when biopics do that kind of thing. It's like the writer is saying, "I'll decide what reality is"

[@mankind2112]

I don't need to watch some BS hollywood movie, I lived the real story in my youth while watching World Class Championship Wrestling every week. I know what happened in real life and still have a lot of it I recorded off of television.

[@tjjefferson5973]

I knew pretty much everything about The Von Erich's and yet after I left the movie theater yesterday, I was legit depressed for about 2 hours.

[@williebeamen2x]

Movie was absolutely amazing...just my opinion RIP CHRIS DAVID KERRY MIKE VON ERIC

[@RevTekMedia]

What an unnecessarily brutal title to this video! 🤯 you could probably find eight things in every single bio pic that was changed either for brevity or to simply make for a better, more enjoyable movie ☹️

[@GLPitt1]

It never claimed to be a documentary. It is a dramatic film based on a real story.

[@vanapirarayne738]

Sounds to me the director was treating the story more as fiction then fact.

[@biochem70]

In the scene with Lance Von Erich, he hits a bodybuilding pose and a few people in my audience thought that was Lex Luger being portrayed.

[@user-bg5lp9cw8e]

The guy that plays kerry is super unaccurate..the dude was a beast

[@nhuw125432]

It’s a fucking movie. Not a documentary

[@volfan8141]

The biggest lie was having a 5'5" 170 pound guy play a 6'2" 230 pound Kerry

[@dirtymcnuggets9933]

guy should have played Chris

[@volfan8141]

@@dirtymcnuggets9933 Anyone but Kerry.

[@ronaldwilliams9635]

They got the casting backwards too. Zac and Jeremy should have switched roles.

[@vmi4172]

This movie could have been a masterpiece had they kept the story TRUE. Im not even interested in watching it knowing it's not accurate. I watched a documentary on the family instead.

[@garys4211]

Most of the actors were WAY too short to be believable.

[@acnixon]

The Iron Claw movie was for entertainment only and even Kevin Von Erich was okay with it. In fact,Kevin Von Erich teared up after watching it and he's not even someone who easily cries.

[@RonaldSantos-fy2vk]

2 inaccuracies that I noticed was The movie has David making the comment of it's not between Texas and Georgia it's between decency and filth. That was actually said by Kevin in a promo. The other inaccuracy I noticed was that they had Kerry's motorcycle accident during his title reign when that was much later down the road

[@kwabenajohnson6970]

I knew some of this already, they didn't want the movie to be a depressing film. Because of all the tragic things that happen. Charvo admitted things didn't make it to the film. Kevin Von Erich saw it with the remaining family and agreed with the directors idea of just telling a story not doing a documentary.

[@BradBardy]

Lacey Von Erich did get train in WWE Development Territory. The thing is that it was before FCW. She trained in Deep South Wrestling in Georgia

[@williamosborne2208]

Kerry never wrestled in WWE. It was the WWF. Yeah I know it's the same company with a name change but if you're going to make a video nit picking the details then you should've probably paid attention to that. And the film lacks something major that you forgot. That's the story. The film doesn't tell much of the story but rather just touches on a few big moments and leaves so much out. I'm very familiar with the story and was left wondering wth did I just watch? The person who watched it with me had no clue about the Von Erichs and they asked after, Why was this family such a big deal? It just seemed to miss on so many things. It also has the worst Ric Falir portrayal ever. I mean how does someone screw up Wooooooo for some other kind of scream that sounds weird. It was an okay film at best but by no way was it a great movie.

[@stolbez666legend]

You do realize if they told the full story, it'd have been like a six hour film, right? Here's how it works when you write a script. You write it out for a maximum of two hours. If you aren't a known name, you cut it back to an hour and a half or just over, or no production company will touch it. You can complain all you want, but they told what they could within the allotted two hour timeframe. Do you think they could have covered the full story in two hours?

[@williamosborne2208]

@@stolbez666legend The full story? No I don't think they could've fit it all in within 2 hrs. However in the Iron Claw they hardly told any story and what little bit they did they screwed up with changes and timeline mishaps. I know how movies work, you don't have to be condescending and try to explain it. I gave my opinion so if you don't like it oh well. By the way The Wrestler fit a lot more story in a movie that was 20 mins shorter. Forrest Gump fit even more story in a film that's 10 mins longer so the run time isn't that big of a reason as to why they couldn't tell more.

[@2Phaktz]

Yes, that is a young Steve Austin throwing little Chris into the turnbuckle.

[@officegossip]

The narratir voice for this channel sounds like it fits more with a buzzfeed video.

[@troyprice7407]

First off, the movie was excellent, but secondly how could they just leave out a person of the family? I mean Chris was a person and to just leave him out of the movie is just disrespectful.

[@KNDAWG74]

You'd have an easier time telling what the movie got right then telling what it got wrong & intentionally omitted. I knew the movie wasnt going to be historically accurate going in & was ready to forgive if it still told a great story. While it seems to have done that to 80% of the audience making it a certified hit, I'm in that 20% minority that thought it bland, rushed & just rang hollow. Im not trying to convince anyone in the 80% to share my opinion, so dont @ me, this movie was a major letdown IMO

[@Stoogewriter]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[@purplepill_corey2094]

Kevin know damn well his family was cursed. He probably broke the curse outliving everyone

[@niladrighosh3269]

They did showed Kerry's run in wwe after losing his foot u got it wrong here

[@zztopwater8568]

Do huge men ever wish they were small or is it just us little fellas who dream of being huge?

[@pinkooze1989]

Having finally found the time and place to watch Iron Claw, I have a lot of thoughts. I do think that some of the cut details were important in the end, especially because of the pacing involving how it starts. I get it - time crunch. But this movie, man oh man, it really hit my feelings hard. I didn't think I'd cry, you know? I knew the story going in but then seeing a couple 'controversial' scenes I was crying alongside my boyfriend. All the people complaining about the scenes that were about faith are nitpicking - faith seemed very important and given it was Texas I see the value of that hug/reunion scene. So yes, Iron Claw the movie did tell lies - they were white lies and blatant omissions and that has problems in itself. But the movie is good for the sake of trying to also speak to a bigger audience. I hope people who aren't wrestling fans give Iron Claw a chance. Then they give wrestling as a whole a chance.

[@matthewanacleto7885]

it's like doing a movie about JFK and omitting Robert

[@MalissiaCreates]

They could’ve absolutely still included Chris, it just needed better writing and a choice to stick more to the truth, which, by far was absolutely enough to write a fantastic story, without any embellishment or omission and still fit the runtime. It’s frustrating when they make excuses like this, so that non-writers and non-filmmakers think oh yeah, that makes sense. when no, it doesn’t. Just do better. And then, spreading out Chris’s attributes amongst the other brothers, because clearly they were worthy enough to put in the film just not to give to one character, is insulting to his existence and legacy.

[@DONTOURAGETV]

In reference to the family being cursed, I don’t know why you didn’t mention this, but the rumor is that he was cursed by an old Jewish woman

[@dominiquejones3805]

Wrestling on 1 leg is wild

[@josephmiller9424]

Look at Buddy Roberts , Chris couldve been a lightheavy or cruiserweight have him battle asian wrestlers , mexican style but they thought all brothers must be heavyweights they couldve held all the belts

[@FredricksonFelix]

The movie and vice documentary are amazing

[@TheInhumanity]

I’m glad you made this video. I have zero plans to watch this movie. The director decides to leave Chris out of the film… a guy who committed suicide due to failure/rejection. Classless move, dude. “This film just couldn’t withstand another brothers death”… it’s what happened!! Fuck that guy, and his bogus, cherry picked wrestling movie.

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

It's life, not a curse. The way you live your life, that's how it play's out. Everybody dies a different death or similar.

[@dashingdreww1185]

Hope they release that MJF deleted scene

[@MissterX]

They didn't lie lol, the movie is a dramatization based on true events. If it were a documentary, they'd be lies.

[@elmergrizwald184]

The family curse was having a bad father.

[@maddawgnp]

To be fair, Vince McMahan didn’t want Kerry to use the Von Erich name when Kerry went to the WWF. Cause Vince didn’t create the Von Erich name. Heard that many times from other personalities in the business. But none the less, I loved the movie. 100% true or not, the movie was good. I lived the Von Erich era, I watched WCCW on ESPN after school every day growing up. The movie may not 100% true to the story, but I’m glad this movie was done.

[@RochellBarbara4690]

I get why they took one brother out it was such a sad movie I couldn’t take another death 😢 not sure how Kevin dealt and still deals with this 🥺☹️

[@user-ef6eb9rw6u]

We were already told the movie made up some of it cause they thought it wouldn't be believable.