Writing Drums For Non Drummers

[@TheMusicLab]

We recently reworked this video and added some extra information! Check it out here for the 2020 version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIKvnZqDf7KXqKM

[@yuripartitski7284]

I’ll humanize your midi drums. Check links on my channel.

[@Manas-co8wl]

Thanks man. 1:42 - 1. Basic Kick & Snare 2:20 - 2. Basic High Hat 3:05 - 3. Kick Variants (Offbeat 2, 4 / +Cymbal) 4:27 - 4. Half Time (Reggae, Heavy, Downbeat) 5:27 - 5. Double Time Kick Accent (Punk, Thrash) 6:01 - 6. Double Time Snare Accent (Common) 7:18 - 7. Basic Fill (Tom Drum Run / + Kick) 7:54 - 8. Complex Fill (+ Snare) 9:00 - 9. Shakers, Cowbells, Claps, etc.

[@MrFrostcold]

huge thanks man :)

[@ridwanali14]

Thanks you to @Manas

[@purpleproducer8131]

This is amazing and very helpful. Thanks a billion!

[@bartholomewlyons]

Teacher’s pet

[@amazingfizzyfiredayshappyf7168]

This was extremely helpful as someone who is just starting to song write and has never played drums before.

[@kitoffour5783]

how is it going

[@WizardOfOzzie96]

@@kitoffour5783 fr

[@kitoffour5783]

@@WizardOfOzzie96 yes

[@somerandomguy802]

Oh thank God I’m so terrible at writing MIDI drums

[@alrecks619]

keep in mind that the drummer only has two hands, unless your drummer is Marco Minnemann

[@Ruukas9]

Drumers also using legs

[@geetarguy777]

Are you sure? Rick Allen isn’t sure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/laPKc6Bppa2kacU

[@timbroski4487]

Or Kai Hahto

[@carlitoxb110]

thank you my drummer is passed out on the floor and we need to practice

[@x0x0skiller2]

😂😂

[@vladinstein]

Dude, I love how you explained everything. Simple, really easy to understand, made me feel how fun it is (as opposed to being overwhelmed by information). Great video!

[@TheMusicLab]

Thank you, Vladimir!

[@rubenspoolder3567]

Ah, so this is the reason we dont get called to play on records anymore

[@bobbywillis1466]

Ruben Spoolder yeah I guess but real drummers will always sound superior to artificial drums that try to sound authentic

[@dangdrjay3011]

Bobby Willis fact

[@SteveBedard]

The way I do my midi drum tracks is I record multiple tracks in real-time. Example, I put the kick drum on one track and perform live using a keyboard. To help me keep the beat I would strike a key for the kick drum but since the snare hasn't been recorded yet I would thump on the table. I know it's weird but it's a lot faster than drawing midi notes, i just hate drawing midi notes. Anyway it's best to have separate track for drums, it's easier when mixing. After that, i quantize to check for errors

[@charlesurdy-barnes413]

His instruction is very good. But unfortunately, my brain doesn't work that way. I can't keep up. I feel more comfortable following your procedures. I like how you thump the table. However it might sound to some it is a great tip for those who think more like you and me. Could you do a video showing your process. I seem to get it more for my ADHD learning processes

[@fef6203]

Depends on the person I suppose, but it's waaay faster literally clicking in the notes then actually performing them. Isn't that obvious? Also as sombody who has over 40 + tracks in a song having the drums confined to one track is much simpler than a separate track for each drum-piece. Mixing can always be done, but the composition remains more important.

[@DaleStrickland]

That's exactly how I've considered doing it, except not quantizing it if I'm looking for a more human-sounding mix

[@krisztian76]

1:50 it's Billie Jean, not boring at all!

[@theonlyjoe_]

Here’s a tip, most songs that have the best fills (imo) keep it very basic by playing around with the groove (the bass snare bit) like adding an extra snare or just a snare roll it doesn’t need to mental af, unless you’re doing punk or metal

[@uniworkhorse]

Thank you so much man, the breaking down (no pun intended) of the fills and different styles was great!

[@bradleysouthard7131]

Dude, super concise, and all the information I could have needed. Thank you! I feel like I understand more about drums and programming than I did before! :)

[@Adam-zo7nz]

Not the video I was looking for but still very interesting. Thank you.

[@CaptainSaminoz]

I've been trying to write beats with no drumming experience for the past year and a half. I learned more in 5 minutes than in 40 videos combined. Thank you so much for this video man! :)

[@TheMusicLab]

You're very welcome!

[@ikarus8982]

"Sounds like Slaves" I'm crying I'm laughing do much. lol

[@angerock49]

Thanks for capitalising this, I was SO confused but the cap made me understand it's a band x)

[@runningoutofspac9565]

@@angerock49 ...

[@michaellennerman7844]

Holy crap thank you. I've never been good at anything to do with drums. This has helped me A LOT.

[@0800333pedro]

actually the strong beat is 1, and you could say the 3 is "half" strong. So, to give strenght to the 2 and 4 they hit the snare

[@nuff6512]

This is the ultimate beginners guide to drum pattern would suggest to everyone who is starting music production Edit:and it is so easy to understand Beautifully explained

[@TheMusicLab]

Thank you so much 💙

[@josiahsantonil9480]

Not a drummer but this has opened new possibilities for me! Thanks so much man! Cheers from the Philippines!

[@davidleasterlingjr2038]

Thanks for dumbing this down for us non traditional drummers!

[@WrestlingGames101]

This is so useful man, thank you. You and Joe r the greatest!

[@Virtual-Media]

Struggled with this for longer than I care to mention, was well on my way just minutes after viewing this! You the Man!!

[@Emcfree2084]

Awesome tutorial

[@funkyjones]

One of the best and simplest explanations of half-time I've heard.

[@thechoripankiller]

1:42 "so that sounds a little bit idk B O R I N G" Michael Jackson: Are you messing with me buddy?

[@thechoripankiller]

@Felix Joshik it's a reference to billie jean

[@Notra_bel]

pretty clean and understandable explanation you did there.You deserved a like from me bro! thank you for this video.

[@moche2303]

I have been needing this video. INCREDIBLY helpful thank you so much.

[@ToastedCigar]

Actually, in Western music beats 1 and 3 are accented in 4/4 -time music. Beats 2 and 4 just feel accented because that's where the snare usually hits.

[@abdulabad3733]

Very helpful - need to track mock drums for my band until we get a drummer. Thank you!

[@TheMusicLab]

You're welcome :)

[@ikarus8982]

A lot of hip-hop is half time, it also makes it a lot easier to edit smaller areas of a song.

[@ridhomblr]

Thank you! this will really help and improve on my music

[@rickileighedwards4871]

This helped SO much! Thanks buddy!

[@davidwimble9907]

Very helpful, thanks! I'll check out the updated version.

[@sienasutherland5192]

This video is so helpful, thank you!!

[@davidbolt9370]

thnak you i will use this knowledge to create the best music featuring the rwe theme

[@mydartpen]

Amazing very well done thankyou

[@Petsublak]

Brilliant, great info. Proper helped us out. Tks👍

[@TheMusicLab]

You're welcome! 💙

[@ultrio325]

Thou art mine saviore!

[@eatsleep8688]

1. hi hat fill 2. kick drum variation 3. half time 3:40 4. double time

[@thegreatwhiterainbow4277]

Youre guiding me through my college course rn 😂😂 thank you

[@TheMusicLab]

Glad we could help 💙

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

You're inspiring me to think about drums in a different way.

[@jitk1]

you can have claps...I have the clap

[@bobbywillis1466]

Thesummerstriangle I love adding some clap claps

[@oliberrhy2391]

Thank you so much, this will be so useful. Now i'll be able to spice up my drum beats!

[@Ludix147]

There are actually some new tips in there for me :D

[@felipemunhoz8230]

great vid bro, but i'm still strugling to get that 16th kinda soul natural swing. Please, can you make a video about that??

[@moharmon770]

This is really helpful... Awesome stuff!

[@casertanick]

I am a drummer but I can't record drums because of quality, so I need to use MIDI. I just can't find a good free Windows program

[@mae-maehan6703]

Nick's Good Universe you can maybe try using notation software like noteflight or musescore (which are both free). the samples might sound not great, but I guess that's better than nothing lol

[@jwcorcoran9838]

Download Kontakt Player (free). Then download GGD Lite (free), and load it up in Kontakt

[@barto1035]

I use TuxGuitar from here; sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguitar/

[@codyt014]

Mk powerdrums arent bad

[@SeleDreams]

there's Hydrogen if you only want drums, else there's cakewalk by bandlab and LMMS

[@laurengoldsings]

SO helpful and clear thank you!!

[@cwbyallstar9545]

ily

[@amimaster]

1:12 except for when you're in Italy. They accent all the beats for unknown reasons.

[@williambrackett8229]

Really helpful!!!!! Ty!!!!!

[@Marek_Vasilev]

You are pretty confusing to listen to, not gonna lie, but your examples were good, so cheers mate! c:

[@penguinmonk7661]

Thank you very much, this was super helpfull :3

[@georgeabraham7256]

What count do cymbal crashes go? I think its weird to think about it because its on the one?.. it twists the brain because its an ending sound on a start.. Id like to hear someone elses approch or solution..

[@julieosang9077]

I would like to have lessons on playing the trumpet and the flute. Thank you

[@PascalJeanty9183]

Good work! You deserved that blue👍

[@Sigmaairav]

I think when it comes to writing drum parts, it is my weak point. I can produce polyrhythms and repeatable complex grooves however, fills are something I have not done very often as I don't fully comprehend their utility in musical narrative. I struggle to ascertain what form the paintbrushes that are drum fills give to the overall painting of music.

[@TheMusicLab]

I see drum fills as a use for transitions... If you want to go from one section to another you can use a fill to build to that change and really emphasize the new section arriving! ... That how I have always viewed them anyway

[@godz2928]

Hi what app/program are you using on this video? As a beginner i think its important to point out as well what program you use thank you

[@peksn]

Thank you for the video! It really helped me out!

[@djpoole7015]

Thank you this helped so much!!!

[@alicemaymusix]

oh my god I so needed this! thank you :) xx

[@TheMusicLab]

You're so welcome!

[@ThisisNukezZ]

thanks m8 that is exactly what i was searching for, should get more views tho great for beginners in beat producing

[@TheRoadrunnerguy]

Sooooooo helpful. You’re the man

[@CustodianVirgil]

I love the video. Do you have anything in terms of how it's timed correctly?

[@heymusiclovers8361]

Thank you very much!! Love it!!

[@TheMusicLab]

You're welcome!

[@Sigmaairav]

For whatever reason, snare drums do not resonate with me when used in most forms except marching themes or in fills. It just feels way too punchy for me and I just dislike its timbre usually. It makes it very hard for me to compose with it because it never sounds "good" when I utilize it in my compositions and or I struggle to come up with any working combinations and timings that snares would fit in as opposed to bongos, toms, timpani, kick, or any other percussion. All other percussion simply has better timbre to my ears for whatever reason I cannot comprehend

[@gordianknot6867]

Creedence clearwater crying ay the start of this video 🥲

[@SoraiaLMotta]

Thanks

[@galiard9006]

3:06 ppap :D

[@MrLongduckdoong]

LEYKIS 101!

[@Mike_the_Barbarian]

Nice! Can you share the midi files with us ? Obviously not song ready but a fun starting point.

[@TheMusicLab]

You should be able to recreate any of these beats within a minute! On any software!

[@juliemusicarr]

so helpful thank youuu

[@eoinmurphy5757]

very helpful, well done

[@bens6423]

what program is this? i need to make some drum beats. what other programs are out there that are free?

[@Echoxxx]

very helpful, thank you!!

[@lloydrummell2509]

Great video, thanks!

[@NotALizardPerson69]

What DAW are u using? Is there any good free software that u know of?

[@TheMusicLab]

Logic X Pro! Garageband is decent! I haven't used any others to be able to comment on them!

[@teamsuperminecraft]

MrRingo123 studio one prime is really good but doesn't have many plugins and you can't buy any until u upgrade the program but it has many instruments

[@cidshroom]

Get Reaper, the trial never expires, it just shows you a 5 second splash box forever. It's got great compatibility so your VST, VST2, VST3, etc. will work. It's simpler than most DAW's and more powerful

[@borjonx]

Ableton Live is insanely cool & powerful. I'm not a musician, but love playing around - the lite version of Live is only $100 and well worth it. A free version also comes with several $100 midi keyboard/pad combos.

[@ta-ya-music]

crack fl studio if u want I have a portable version of it.

[@F90sTeenanger]

What is the name of program tha he use in video?

[@RGE_Music]

learned so much

[@gymnopedist6211]

Very helpful. What VST library did you use for the drums?

[@remshawmusiek7565]

Helpful 👍🏽👌🏽

[@TheMusicLab]

Thanks!

[@ma888u]

Thank you!!

[@blackthovenproductions4561]

what about the call and answer. I think that this is the most important when programming drum.

[@TheMusicLab]

Call and a answer tends to mean using multiple instruments and is a technique normally used for counter melodies. What do you mean?

[@blackthovenproductions4561]

What i mean is that those drums dont have any change over the time.

[@blackthovenproductions4561]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bavaiXh8jd9gnMU

[@TheMusicLab]

This only really applies to percussive instruments used in 'Samba' and African drumming, not a drum kit, used in popular rock and pop.

[@ecocallingvideos]

Name of the program to create the beats?

[@sobirjonismailov3823]

vey useful. thanks

[@momins-topic4470]

Very usefull

[@weibrot8694]

Hey! Thank you so much man, helped me a freakin LOT and btw im wondering how the program is called

[@TheMusicLab]

This is Logic Pro X! Glad you liked the video :)

[@weibrot8694]

@@TheMusicLab thank you so much :D

[@jevsdisjava]

drum programming is a really big deep and interesting subject , but nowadays producers just use same patterns, wathers its old school ame patterns or thos stupi trap hihat kkrkkrkkrkrkkr pattern. they are so limited in creativity , but dfrum is more than that. to check what drum can be, just check the "xgonna give it to ya "of sweaz beat, or "bird call" of jr writer,

[@WaitingForTheHook]

MIDI stands for : Make Instruments Do ....er stuff.

[@dydroyen4922]

i guess humour is subjective

[@WaitingForTheHook]

@@dydroyen4922 Some people are miserable and some people aren't. Hope your day gets better.

[@dydroyen4922]

@@WaitingForTheHook lmao did i hurt your feelings?

[@ErikaMariTakahashi]

metronome is the key! i learned to play instrument using only metronome, Chords, Melodies and theories on my own. i don't know why even someone taught me how to play guitar, piano or drums, still can't learn, but instead i only learn and master it on my own! LOL. maybe something's wrong with me!

[@TheMusicLab]

I worry you didn't actually watch the video, as we aren't talking about playing drums. Good on you for teaching yourself though!

[@ErikaMariTakahashi]

@@TheMusicLab well i actually listen! i just comment on my own but thanks btw. i just came here accidentally! what Daw did you use?

[@mscbeats5846]

Could you please do a video like this but for hip-hop drums ? thanks x

[@TheMusicLab]

It the exact same method! You just use different samples!

[@SynthApprentice]

Use 808 samples, and put the kick just off the 3.

[@RealJamesSmith]

A link where I can access this with Ableton?

[@TheMusicLab]

You should be able to create a midi track, of which you can set the instrument to be the midi drum kit, then create an event on the timeline, double click on it and you should be good to go!

[@afonsomendes92]

guys if you write *\0 ANYTHING 0/* on a computer, you need Gramarly

[@justinle3745]

lmaoooo underrated comment

[@tor8426]

bro may i know what software do you use for making drums like that?.. following you here... waiting for your reply here,, thanx a lot

[@TheMusicLab]

For this video I'm using Logic Pro X, something you can only get on Mac. However you can do this in any DAW, have a Google and see which one might be best for you :)

[@EduardoGaitan]

Do i need to have a MIDI to do this type of things just wanting to spice up my covers

[@thomasmoore7013]

Well, "a MIDI" isn't a singular thing. There are digital instruments which are controlled either by a MIDI controller (such as an electric keyboard) or directly by your DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). So in order to make a MIDI drum beat you would at least need the digital instrument, and possibly a MIDI controller depending on whether you wanted to play the part yourself or just draw it into the track. So if your question was "Do I need a MIDI controller" then the answer is: no, as long as you have a digital instrument and a DAW to put it in.

[@EduardoGaitan]

@@thomasmoore7013 Got it so i need this kind of software and also a hardware aswell ¿maybe my current ketboard?

[@TheMusicLab]

Your current keyboard might work, but you can just draw it in with a mouse in any DAW (digital audio workstation)

[@khonhakmia]

Yes I like it, your video, but I need your software to try and need to follow you up

[@bobbywillis1466]

ບ້ານລາວ ສະຕູດີໂອ idk if you still need a software or not but GarageBand for iOS or Mac is free and Reaper is free for Windows PCs. I recommend GarageBand

[@nicolasboisvert2737]

is the logicial free?

[@clawmusic4372]

What software are you using?

[@brutallyremastered4255]

When I'm in a crowd I insist on Motorik.