Writing with the Enneagram: Type 9

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LocalScriptMan

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@And_stuff8
@And_stuff8 4 ай бұрын
Yo, Lucas don't forget to respond to feed into our parasocial relationship.
@localscriptman
@localscriptman 4 ай бұрын
You are my best friend
@And_stuff8
@And_stuff8 4 ай бұрын
@@localscriptman I love you too buddy
@psychoticwhitebunny
@psychoticwhitebunny 4 ай бұрын
@@localscriptman I love you, Lucas.
@debrachambers1304
@debrachambers1304 4 ай бұрын
​@@localscriptmanBut I thought that I was your best friend!!! 😭
@nedflanders8995
@nedflanders8995 4 ай бұрын
hey he was mine first buddy watch out
@corbowo
@corbowo 4 ай бұрын
"the 9 has that dog in them, the dog is just very sleepy" I have never heard anything that describes me so accurately and I am upset about it.
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 4 ай бұрын
Same.
@Hello4199-k9y
@Hello4199-k9y 4 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for my type video! Can't wait for the punch to the gut/wake up call. I'm not a nine and not a ten, based on the videos that are out so far.
@HopeReviews
@HopeReviews 3 ай бұрын
lol
@so.of.itself
@so.of.itself 3 ай бұрын
Ditto. Maybe it'll make me so upset that I crawl out the dang pit and have a character arc
@randallwalter7589
@randallwalter7589 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm thinking about it too.
@ashsanquer4612
@ashsanquer4612 4 ай бұрын
"it's a rage getting angry at itself for not getting out sooner" holy shit you put it into words, you described *that* feeling.
@MichaelCaswell-q5w
@MichaelCaswell-q5w 3 ай бұрын
The amount of times I've gotten angry at myself for not getting angry is kind of absurd
@EasilyBoredGamer
@EasilyBoredGamer 4 ай бұрын
well this felt like getting a very unflattering caricature of myself handed back to me
@okasart
@okasart 4 ай бұрын
Enneagram roasts you in the best way possible
@Nagasakevideo
@Nagasakevideo 4 ай бұрын
Same bro
@lirzz6370
@lirzz6370 4 ай бұрын
This video encapsulating 9 months of therapy in about 10 minutes is crazy
@okasart
@okasart 4 ай бұрын
YUP I love this channel. For writing and clever and deep throwaway lines that completely change your way of thinking
@zero_to_one0
@zero_to_one0 2 ай бұрын
Haha '9' months
@bustersbrain
@bustersbrain 4 ай бұрын
Pathology types instead of personality types may be the fundamental enneagram concept of the year.
@helenarosno
@helenarosno 4 ай бұрын
yeah, the use of the word "pathology" helped me understand what he was talking about a lot more than other stuff i've read about the enneagram online. i find this stuff so confusing a lot of the time
@solanumlycopersicum5594
@solanumlycopersicum5594 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of myself 10 years ago conceptualizing my own issues by evaluating myself according to the Cardinal Sins. (Sloth and Gluttony being central, which is why this video hits me like a brick. Pride and Wrath being secondary.) Going by pathology types and viewing behavior as learned coping mechanisms, and then asking for the why's, is a genious approach for storytelling.
@badabing3391
@badabing3391 2 ай бұрын
can i just recast all personalities as cope for pathologies
@solanumlycopersicum5594
@solanumlycopersicum5594 2 ай бұрын
@@badabing3391 "Nobody's perfect!" :D
@Mariposa-rgb
@Mariposa-rgb 4 ай бұрын
“I’m the chillest” resonated so much with me lol Also 9-> avoid conflict at all cost
@debdebberton
@debdebberton 4 ай бұрын
usually 9-type damage also makes someone uniquely good at moderating a situation between other people, because of how thoroughly instinctive the project/merge impulse is.
@Mariposa-rgb
@Mariposa-rgb 4 ай бұрын
@@debdebbertonyes it’s in a way sadly ironic that one can be good at seeing everyone’s point of view and help while staying detached, but they die of stress when they are the target or involved in conflict 😅
@GweniswasntTaken
@GweniswasntTaken 4 ай бұрын
Imo avoiding conflict at all cost isn't specific to the 9. The 9 will want to avoid conflict to preserve their peace. Meanwhile, something like a 5 can also want to avoid conflicts even if it means sacrificing huge parts of their lives as long as it's in the name of self preservation and protecting themselves from the dangerous external world
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 4 ай бұрын
Yep, and for a Six like me, I avoid conflict with people in my orbit especially because it may risk their support for me. Like, I support them because they support me, like we're playing a game of Diplomacy, and even when there's a question of right or wrong or fairness or whatever, I'll often just roll with it, bottle it up until exploding over what the other party always saw as a minor thing anyhow, learning I was paranoid about it the whole time and projecting, all the usual fun.
@dan_asd
@dan_asd 4 ай бұрын
didn't like how much this peeled back my skin
@ActualRealJohnJack
@ActualRealJohnJack 4 ай бұрын
It feels like Lucas was working on a whole load of videos for the past couple months, but only remembered his login yesterday and is uploading everything now.
@jettpeterson8968
@jettpeterson8968 4 ай бұрын
He explains it at the end of his previous video
@fishyfish1917
@fishyfish1917 4 ай бұрын
two videos in 1 minute? we're in for a treat!
@aouyiu
@aouyiu 4 ай бұрын
DP&W really got him hyped up
@Onezy05
@Onezy05 4 ай бұрын
I'm pumped!
@M1Account
@M1Account 4 ай бұрын
He really fell off. It's been 13 hours and he hasn't uploaded 1,560 more videos like I expected.
@leonardovieiraperes8527
@leonardovieiraperes8527 4 ай бұрын
I think I got a bit to add, from personal experience. 1- (4:00) Real nines to that too, though, for me, it's less "one day I'll visit [place]" and more "one day I'll actually write the story I've been thinking about for the past decade." 2- I find it useful to think about the 9 less as standing still and more as being very vulnerable to inertia. If something becomes routine, they can be very high functioning and responsible about it, even if they're not particularly healthy. "Study for 4 hours everyday? Sure! Spend 10 minutes fixing a problem? Maybe next week". I think this is why the enneagram usually describes the nine as "moving to three" in comfort. 3- Another "9-coded" type of story is if a character DOES change in the way you described, but it's too late already. They could have saved their situation an year or a decade ago, but they've waited too long, either digging their own grave or doing nothing as someone else dug it. I've seen this done well in World of Warcraft, of all places... can confirm many people got very attached to the character.
@iangardner2395
@iangardner2395 4 ай бұрын
I think he already indirectly named house of dragons as an example of three.
@leonardovieiraperes8527
@leonardovieiraperes8527 4 ай бұрын
@@iangardner2395 it's not exactly what I'm talking about. Viserys has his change and that's it for him - he's dead by the end of the episode, the schism appears to be mended, and his failure is only truly evident by the next episode. The two characters I've seen following the story in point #3 had their change of heart, did all they could and made new sacrifices, but still watched their lifes crumble around them.
@abudgie6909
@abudgie6909 4 ай бұрын
The second point is highly relatable for me. In my gap year, lifting weights 6 days a week for 5 weeks straight, easy. It’s a habit. Restarting my art journey after kinda dropping it in high school? Feels impossible to get back into it.
@thesunthrone
@thesunthrone 3 ай бұрын
@@abudgie6909 As someone who restarted the art journey they abandoned for about half of their life, you can do it. I think having your lifting experience will actually help you immensely with it, because the parallels are uncanny - the slow building up of momentum, of importance of recovery, of doing the appropriate amount of exercise for the specific level you're at, it all adds up and helps temper the unreasonable expectations of not being able to be as good as you have dreamed yet. That's why you split the big thing into small daily/weekly tasks, divide it up and understand you have to give it time for results to really start appearing. In 4-5 years, you won't even recognize yourself. It's deeply rewarding because ultimately it's that same drive of growth and overcoming yourself.
@futurist999
@futurist999 4 ай бұрын
Dude you should write a book. As fun as it is to watch videos like this, a text or an infographic that I could always refer to in order to figure something out about my own characters would be so much more usable. And I can’t just use someone else’s books or articles because, as you have said, your view of this system is pretty different and unique. Anyway, a great series. I’ve been a skeptic, and while I still have some things I’m not sure about, your description of it as a way to approach personality flaws and trauma really changed my view of it. I have one question though - if a person were to be raised in theoretical perfect conditions, and had no trauma, then would enneagram types just not apply to them?
@localscriptman
@localscriptman 4 ай бұрын
Well trauma is not something that happens to you, it’s something that happens in you. Basically your body will choose something to be designated as trauma. If two people flop on a group presentation, one person might encode it as trauma and the other might not. So I guess I reject that hypothesis. As for the book I’d like to one day, will wait until I’m much older though
@hudonqs
@hudonqs 4 ай бұрын
Day 0 of asking local to write a book ✍️
@ruwa4582
@ruwa4582 4 ай бұрын
@@localscriptman The book is gonna be "one day"? Well, dude, you're 9 coded.
@ninenezumi
@ninenezumi 4 ай бұрын
@@ruwa4582 And you are an overanalysing asshole
@thehiddenpineapple
@thehiddenpineapple 4 ай бұрын
As a type 9 myself, the story of Rocky always resonated with me so much. Seeing him rise above his bad situation by releasing his pent up passion? And having people witness and celebrate that release? Chills, man.
@_NobodySpecial_
@_NobodySpecial_ 4 ай бұрын
Undiagnosed autism and being told i was wrong for reasons i couldn't comprehend made me a 9, also doesnt help that a poetic meaning of my name is to flow down the river until i find a sheltered spot and stay there stubbornly. Everything about me was written as a 9 lol
@_NobodySpecial_
@_NobodySpecial_ 4 ай бұрын
Damned if I do damned if I don't might as well do what I want and what I want is weed and video essays. If something rouses me from my numbness I'll make a choice then whether I want to answer the call or go back to sleep.
@grabs_you5954
@grabs_you5954 4 ай бұрын
what the evergiving fuck is your name?? " flow down the river until i find a sheltered spot and stay there stubbornly"???? WHAT LANGUAGE HAS THIS AS A WORD LET ALONE A NAME.
@GhERM2SOIED72
@GhERM2SOIED72 4 ай бұрын
​​@@_NobodySpecial_ What an appropriate username choice ;p ! Chilling by the river is really cool, though, and people who have that calling are valuable. Just to be sure, though, you're "fine" where you are, but are you happy? Does thinking about your next smoke'n'essay session make you smile? If so, then I still recommend breaking the monotony- Like eating something sour to appreciate the sweetness better. Maybe writing an essay! Long walks, in my experience, are lovely, even in urban environments. Also, muscles are surprisingly comfy :) .
@_NobodySpecial_
@_NobodySpecial_ 4 ай бұрын
@@GhERM2SOIED72 I've had enough sourness for one lifetime, I could trauma dump but I'm in a good mood so I kinda don't want to but there's a fair bit. I enjoy video essays because when I grew up the main source of validation I had was academic success so I instilled in myself a love of learning and now I get bored if I don't learn anything for a while. And while I do enjoy the high, chronic pain sleep issues and at least 3 of the mental health issues I have are helped by this without the horrible side effect that the antidepressants and other stuff they gave me had. I do seasonal work travel frequently and live of va disability when I'm not.
@debdebberton
@debdebberton 4 ай бұрын
localscript renaissance incoming 💯
@Onezy05
@Onezy05 4 ай бұрын
It's that time of year again lol
@sabreman8546
@sabreman8546 Ай бұрын
"WHY CAN'T MY INSULTS HURT YOU!?" "9 FIXATION, SON! IT HARDENS IN RESPONSE TO EMOTIONAL TRAUMA!!"
@gg_sam7847
@gg_sam7847 4 ай бұрын
Nah yeah that 9 shit is what I've got going on for sure, hell I've even know for years now that the only thing that'll get me out of this slump of not doing anything is to just start doing something. Hasn't happened yet
@dunhoppe
@dunhoppe 4 ай бұрын
Relatable
@haraldlindohf4032
@haraldlindohf4032 4 ай бұрын
yeah nah yeah nah nah yeah yeah nah yeah nah nah yeah man,
@ryk6207
@ryk6207 23 күн бұрын
I could do something, but I don’t bc it’s scary. Passion is scary. It feels like potentially losing control.
@gg_sam7847
@gg_sam7847 23 күн бұрын
@@ryk6207 eh I'm more in the boat that once one decision/action gets locked in all the other, potentially much better ones, can now no longer be accessed
@ElijahWLYT
@ElijahWLYT 4 ай бұрын
I'm 100% a 9. One time, I told someone that people always say things like "it could get worse." But what they don't realise is that I get used to worse and just accept it. To which they responded, "you're either the laziest person I ever met or you really don't care about anything." I'm very excited to hear about the others.
@hudonqs
@hudonqs 4 ай бұрын
as someone who struggles with four-ness, having to wait for both you and Josh Keefe to make a dam video about our miserable lives is miserable in of itself. Amazing vid imo
@cam9913
@cam9913 4 ай бұрын
You & me, bestie
@starlesscitiess
@starlesscitiess 4 ай бұрын
omg four gang ‼️‼️‼️
@o_loner2307
@o_loner2307 4 ай бұрын
at least we're not waiting alone
@Littlebeth5657
@Littlebeth5657 3 ай бұрын
Fuck I feel called out
@bulantujuh
@bulantujuh 3 ай бұрын
waiting for 3,2,1🙏🙏
@bodhihouareau-rose8964
@bodhihouareau-rose8964 4 ай бұрын
10 minutes of LocalScriptMan is equal entertainment value to an episode of breaking bad
@ARandomerUser
@ARandomerUser 4 ай бұрын
say on skibidi
@sitara7664
@sitara7664 3 ай бұрын
actually real
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 Ай бұрын
Breaking Bad does thrive in throwing realized complex characters against each other in serious complicated situations. Therefore, it literally is of equal entertainment value.
@_moops1820
@_moops1820 4 ай бұрын
As a 9 who’s concealed passion is storytelling, this changed my mind on the enneagram. I checked it out once before after hearing you talk about it, but it didn’t click with me. I was going through a period where I was starting to see genuine heart within stories, and the enneagram felt like a way to create artificial characters in a lab. This gives me a better understanding of how it’s used, and I might give it a second look.
@justjoking5252
@justjoking5252 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's the same kind of vibe I had for a while. If it's done right I think the 'natural feel' of a character elevates from lab-grown to farm raised. Sure if you looked under the hood you'd know there was a process behind their character, but that's true of almost all good characters anyway.
@youcantbeatk7006
@youcantbeatk7006 4 ай бұрын
Genuine heart can be made in a lab too.
@_moops1820
@_moops1820 4 ай бұрын
@@youcantbeatk7006 By genuine heart I sort of mean how a creator will take from their personal experiences and put that into their art. It’s more Willy Wonka than it is Everlasting Gobstopper. Sorry, I didn’t really offer an explanation for you to know what I meant by that lol. I hope you can see that unless Buttercup from the Powerpuff girls wants to work through unresolved childhood issues through writing fiction, genuine heart isn’t something I think can be made in a lab lol.
@grabs_you5954
@grabs_you5954 4 ай бұрын
I am a 9 and I also have a concealed passion for storytelling. why do you hide yours?
@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa
@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa 4 ай бұрын
@@_moops1820I’m not sure I understand your Buttercup example (please feel free to clarify if you want), but I don’t think “lab grown” personality typing excludes the possibility of adding your own experiences into the character. The typing just gives a clear reference to the writer for that character’s priorities and filters. And even then, everyone is built different for reasons that may have nothing to do with personality type. I have characters with the same type at similar levels of health that would still make very different decisions from each other given similar circumstances, because symptoms of their type show up in different ways (they just have different dispositions, priorities, skillsets, experiences, etc). I think the enneagram can be very flexible if you mostly focus on the core wounds, and take or leave the hyperspecific stuff.
@zaidlacksalastname4905
@zaidlacksalastname4905 4 ай бұрын
I've never felt this called out all my life This is beyond stereotype, ennegrams are actually good at finding the faults in your thought process. Now I get why you love them
@MichaelJLClark
@MichaelJLClark 4 ай бұрын
This is great. Currently on a major revision of a book wherein the POV character is a 9. He’s this massive, strong guy, built like a brick house, and he’s also autistic. His mother gave him up to the army of this fantasy world when he was 7 years old because of his magical ability, but really it was because she wanted to be rid of her autistic kid. The General who raised him is very emotionally abusive, and used his complacent nature to turn him into her obedient attack dog. The book is about him figuring out how to be his own person after having spent years thinking that his whole purpose in life is to be her tool. I’m so happy that this video basically reaffirmed that I know what I’m doing character arc wise. I’m so excited to see the rest of the videos in this series, I’d like to see if I’m nailing the character dynamics and arcs in my next book as well.
@StellHarb
@StellHarb 4 ай бұрын
You are my sole writing channel, I will never trust anyone again. Just you, only you. If you leave KZbin I will have a full blown breakdown and not leave my room for weeks. Please don't die.
@hotheadedweirdo
@hotheadedweirdo 4 ай бұрын
kai satou pfpf based
@CooperWood-lf7ry
@CooperWood-lf7ry Ай бұрын
Lmao I know what u mean, buuuuut are you a 6 perchance?
@thesunthrone
@thesunthrone 4 ай бұрын
Edit from the future of type 4 video: this video series has been extremely fascinating to watch and rethink. I now fully see why you see the Enneagram as a perfect writing aid. It hyperfocuses problems extremely well, and inherently contains the plot seeds within it. But you also cut through the BS and go directly to the core of the matter, erasing the wishy-washy boundaries of "wow that sounds like me" and going straight to why a character is that type and no other based on their main motivation at the heart of their decision making. Original comment: Yeah, this really isn't about personality at all. This is squarely about The Problem a person goes through. No wonder this Eneagram stuff never flew with me, it was presented as astrology with a cool symbol for logo. And I say this because I've gone through this "type nine" problem myself, so is one of my friends right now - so is more or less everyone that I've had a lasting long friendship with. Does that mean they were all "nines" as personalities? How could they, when we're as different as we can be? My workaholic friend shares basically nothing with me but some interests, our personalities and upbringing are completely different - so how come we get that "nine" vibe? But when you just put it as "this is the type of a classic problem the person faces", yeah this tracks, this works, this is actually useful. Just have to peel away the new-age cringe around it.
@dunhoppe
@dunhoppe 4 ай бұрын
You have to compare them with every type. Because there may be types more relevant for them than 9
@amanofnoreputation2164
@amanofnoreputation2164 4 ай бұрын
The culmination of _Slay The Princess_ sounds like a nine problem. Because what you ultimately find out about that story, is that not only is each individual cycle being retold but the entire story is just going in circles across countless iterations. There are ultimately three endings. Two of them break the cycle. One of them does not. One of them has you break the cycle by killing your soul: givin up your pasion and dying. The other has you embrace your passion and all of the torment you wouldn't otherwise have had to have faced if you'd gone with the other options. Not breaking the cycle is a kind of anti-ending which just leads you back to the point of making the choice. The Princess even tells you as much. This sounds a lot like the nine simply refusing to break out of their maldadaptive rut.
@randallwalter7589
@randallwalter7589 2 ай бұрын
Dude, this is awesome! I love Slay the Princess! The game has had an impact on me as a 9, but I've never considered the story through that lens before! Slay the Princess is a wonderful metaphor for love and relationships, and explores how your beliefs determine reality. On the flipside of your beliefs, you are called out as a passive player, ever reacting without acting. The main endings involve a surrender to oblivion, a killing of passion, or its embrace. It really encourages an embrace of change and love in its myriad forms, and actively works to persuade you of the value of transformation as core ingredient of life. How to translate it to enneagram though... The game gives complete ambiguity to your decisions for most of the game, and honors them afterwards. This might cause anxiety to folks like me, as I have a very weighty religious element to my seeking for peace and wholeness, therefore finding the right choice is very important to me, which is why I don't like making incomplete decisions or answering would you rather questions such as the trolley problem. I want to win by making the right choice. Slay the Princess is different, because there are no wrong choices. Everything is part of the experience. It is the full depth of a relationship with someone you love, and who loves you in return. Translating it to 9 requires you to be both LQ and SM in this story, perhaps the narrator as well. The Narrator wants death, betrayal, pain, loneliness, destruction all to be destroyed. The price to pay is that there is no more growth and character progression, as LQ exists himself into oblivion, without want, but alone and empty. Whatever your decisions, SM accepts them, and celebrates your choices as an expression of who you are, and the parts of you you choose to ignore are simply parts of the brilliant contours of your soul in her eyes. The Narrator wants your passions suffocated, and for you to drink oblivion, and that will be worth it for the sake of peace. But you learn about yourself. What emotions swirl within you? What desires? There are no wrong answers, and your choices are gifts. Part of the journey of a 9 is to accept the cost of expressing who their are in total, and placing it into the world, while understanding that it is necessary and beautiful. Those are my thoughts for now, let me know what you think!
@ashsanquer4612
@ashsanquer4612 4 ай бұрын
As a 9 this feels uncomfortable in the best way possible
@HotCupaJo
@HotCupaJo 4 ай бұрын
As a 9 I feel extremely @ed. Conflict makes me scared even when people are poking and prodding me with needles. I think I'm also scared of the anger, like the hulk analogy.
@bluewail55
@bluewail55 4 ай бұрын
I was always called a 9 by others but I didn't see it because I didn't resinate with the personality traits they were said to have but not you basically explaining my coping mechanism word from word. Thanks for this. Was very insightful.
@helenarosno
@helenarosno 4 ай бұрын
honestly, the worst thing you can ask a 9 is, "what do you want". like how tf am i supposed to know? :,D
@hestiathena4917
@hestiathena4917 3 ай бұрын
Similarly, "Anything I can do to help?" If I knew what and knew it would actually help, believe me I'd tell you!!
@jax3973
@jax3973 4 ай бұрын
Crazy how seen this made me feel, also thought the enneagram/personality "quizzes" were dumb asf but the way you recontextualized them in this video and the last made me really get it. Very well explained man.
@sabreman8546
@sabreman8546 2 ай бұрын
Didn't even realize I was writing a nine until I watched this video! Thanks for all the insight, now that I have a clearer vision of what nine-ness is, I have so many more ideas for juicy plot threads, resolutions, and character moments in my mind! As a (self-diagnosed) nine who did actually find that passion in the form of writing and got over that deeply ingrained passivity in order to pursue it, this video also opened my eyes to a ton of shit even I didn't know I do. great video man, can't wait for the last two.
@krown_of_G
@krown_of_G 3 ай бұрын
I really like the way you described type 9 characters as having an identity given to them by some other external variable instead of themselves really reminds of Raiden from MGS2 with his attitude of refusing to talk about his past with his girlfriend while insisting everything is fine or his desire to be like solid snake because he idolizes him so much really thought provoking stuff!
@rafaroni3
@rafaroni3 4 ай бұрын
I love how you handled this topic. Helped me see my actions more objectively and hopefully this will help me progress instead of cycling through the fog.
@millythompsonfromtrigun98anime
@millythompsonfromtrigun98anime 4 ай бұрын
I’ve gone into light dives into the enneagram, but this manner of discussing them is more beneficial to me than what I’m used to reading. Since I watched this, I went over articles on the enneagram while skimming through the sugarcoating and getting to the cold-hard turmoil. This is how I was able to discern I’m a 4, whereas being a 4 didn’t feel so certain when I took one of those feeble tests a while back.
@giraffpple
@giraffpple 4 ай бұрын
I think I might have missed the "why" aspect of the 9 in this video. I understand what you're saying about passivity, thinking that enduring is the best option, not pursuing one's own passions, etc, but what is the underlying cause of this? They've learned that trying or caring about things is painful? They were punished for speaking up for themselves or pursuing their passions when they were younger? I think that would really complete the picture for me.
@bcar2263
@bcar2263 4 ай бұрын
Hey! Not an enneagram expert, but the general consensus is that from the E9's subconscious POV, they lost their sense of "being" because they had no other option but to yield to their childhood circumstances. Commonly, the inciting experience is a consistent rejection or forgetting of the E9's subjective needs (through overcontrolling or neglectful parental figures), which communicates to the E9 that seeking their passions would deprive them of love, safety, and stability. They internalize their own durability to achieve mental/emotional peace. Like a baby who did not receive sustenance, and began telling itself it did not need to be fed to avoid the pain of hunger. Hope that helps!
@dunhoppe
@dunhoppe 4 ай бұрын
Body has two main responses to a biological conflict: depression and mania So the cause of 9 is a depression induced by a territorial biological conflict A 9 probably didn't feel safe in home/school as to take the initiative and was waiting for orders from those "above" but there was no one to tell you what to do nor to make you feel safe as to do things by yourself Therefore you are always waiting, freeze response, for someone that helps you own the territory, fight response, or go somewhere else and own a new territory, flight response Sources: I dreamt it
@solanumlycopersicum5594
@solanumlycopersicum5594 4 ай бұрын
@@bcar2263 ​ @dunhoppe Great responses guys, thanks! I felt it was weird that after the "Fixing the Enneagram" video, where he said it is all about the WHYs, he did not go into the why much here.
@haraldlindohf4032
@haraldlindohf4032 4 ай бұрын
@@dunhoppe > i dreamt it [gigachad emote]
@nevinmyers1245
@nevinmyers1245 4 ай бұрын
9 here and i'm still not sure why. apparently 9s rarely describe their childhood as unpleasant because we've become so good at blocking unpleasantness out, and that's definitely true for me. i can think of a few things, though. i grew up with a speech impediment and a very limited palette (basically all i would eat was plain pasta with salt). i could barely communicate my needs to people, which was incredibly important because my needs were so specific. i might have learned that communication is useless and i just have to let my parents feed me when they will and eat whatever they make. either that or get used to barely eating anything. on top of that my brother struggled with anxiety and ocd, and my parents had mental illnesses of their own. i didn't have any, so i might have internalized that my problems aren't important and i primarily need to worry about other peoples' problems. okay so i said i wasn't sure how it happened and then wrote up a thorough explanation but that's just how it is i guess, i genuinely don't remember it being that bad.
@whywhatfour
@whywhatfour 4 ай бұрын
really hoping you finish this series. honestly no other youtuber has come close to the raw, unadulterated honesty of these ideas you've presented online.
@unit1pirate380
@unit1pirate380 4 ай бұрын
ure fuckin spoiling us, dont stop ughhh
@dhskshdksh
@dhskshdksh 4 ай бұрын
i am so thrilled for the rest of this series dude! it’s really cool to see the evolution of your content style as well- your efficiency is truly admirable
@FrankBusterLawisHere
@FrankBusterLawisHere 4 ай бұрын
This is just the ADHD/Autism experience rolled up into one.
@Somecreacher
@Somecreacher 3 ай бұрын
fr like its crazy how similar the consequences of autistic/adhd masking fit with enneagram 9.
@ggglzzz
@ggglzzz 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much for these videos. im so glad someone is finally talking about enneagram with the respect and full attention it deserves. i am so sick of seeing people link to tests that are mistyping them and pointless and not have any idea how deep this all truly goes 😭 and yeah ur right, even in the typology community a lot of people seem to forget that enneagram is meant for self improvement and NOT giving in to the unhealthiest parts of your mind just so you can categorize yourself
@ninenezumi
@ninenezumi 3 ай бұрын
Last line made me laugh
@HoundZay-F8LTV
@HoundZay-F8LTV 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being beholden to your whims…thank you!!!
@definitelynotsavathun3859
@definitelynotsavathun3859 4 ай бұрын
honestly I've been waiting for someone to talk about this in more detail cause I've been super interested in it since I struggle to right characters with motivations of different types of my own and I always thought a breakdown of all the different ways someone's life can make them think was what I needed to break that barrier. Keep up this series for sure.
@emmanuelrubio2535
@emmanuelrubio2535 4 ай бұрын
This video just gave me a cathartic feeling for finally fully figuring out a character I’ve been writing. Thanks mr Scriptman.
@Ishkur23
@Ishkur23 4 ай бұрын
The "Ordinary child [learns/inherits/acquires] special [gifts/magic/talent] and goes adventuring in fantasy [world/land/school] where they become [special/important/the chosen one], with help from their [friends/partners/teachers] along the way" trope is the most dominant genre in YA fiction because the protagonist is so passive. The more of a blank slate they are, the easier it is for the reader to insert themselves into the role.
@josiahklein70
@josiahklein70 4 ай бұрын
I've got a 9 fixation. This shit is legit. I wanted to purge myself of feeling so nothing could hurt me.
@Alazarelle
@Alazarelle 4 ай бұрын
Oh man, I'm just here because I'm a big storytelling lover but as a very passionate self-assured 9, who hasn't fully explored the depths of the enneagram, this was so weirdly encouraging haha?? Also explains why I love stories of identity despite not having had issues with my own growing up.
@desidominguez2876
@desidominguez2876 2 ай бұрын
I went into this video skeptical but willing to hear out a KZbinr whose advice I respected. I came out of this video staring at the ceiling, unpacking my baggage and rethinking my life.
@rilohoneu6030
@rilohoneu6030 6 күн бұрын
"ye old lean" lmfao
@sb0w761
@sb0w761 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this series; it’s always fun to learn a new method to understanding characters and their flaws. Thanks Local.
@ochion
@ochion 19 күн бұрын
A 10 minute callout great
@athlos3126
@athlos3126 2 ай бұрын
It's like you opened up a mirror to my soul
@okasart
@okasart 4 ай бұрын
Your dry humour gives me life lol
@maiv9434
@maiv9434 4 ай бұрын
The way you are talking about things helps so much. Rather than give us a tool and be like 'it works like this and that and if you use it you will do great, pinky promise', you explain why things were made in the first place. It's incredibly helpful to hear why and how something works rather than how you could use it. It's like guiding us through a forest so that we can make the path on our own rather than showing us the most used paths :D I really appreciate all the work you've put into this channel!
@yuiitodoro7791
@yuiitodoro7791 2 ай бұрын
Was in awe with ur simple doodle that matches the video ... thought about it and realised how the analogies where the significant thing here , gave me some ideas ❤
@artemis_studios6555
@artemis_studios6555 2 ай бұрын
OMORI is also an incredible example of a 9 in fiction.
@amanofnoreputation2164
@amanofnoreputation2164 4 ай бұрын
Life: Raiden repeatedly punching Armstrong to no effect Number nines: Senator Armstrong.
@helenarosno
@helenarosno 4 ай бұрын
im excited to watch your future videos on the enneagram! i think i relate to 9 the most, but i also relate to numbers in other triads so it gets confusing. however, i really think 9 is the prominent type in my 'pathology' as you describe it. (5s) competency, (4s) aesthetics, (6s) security, and (3s) success are are things i strive for because they help me "wake up" from the cope of optimistic resilience that overrides most of my decision-making and flushes me down the toilet of least resistance lol. i find it very hard to find things that are worth the fight, and as i've gotten to know the 9 more, i've started to realize that fighting for small choices and commitments can help me with my shifty sense of identity. like, sometimes it's good to care about things and people strongly... but also i have to be careful to not let those things/people define me because then that becomes a whole other issue where my identity becomes ATTACHED to my label/role and DETACHED from my sense of self and passion so... umm yeah shits tough and confusing and i love it here no really i do believe me i promise its all good yay👍
@w1ckedn0nsense34
@w1ckedn0nsense34 4 ай бұрын
I only learned about enneagram through your original writing videos then tepidly took the test to find out I'm a nine. When I watched your intro video I thought oh maybe I will learn I'm something else because the quizzes aren't very good but then your opening gut punched me about 35 times and left me bleeding on the floor. So I guess that's out. Thinking about the enneagram as an identifier of flaws rather than strengths is really opening it up for me and now I actually feel motivated to become intimate with each type so I can actually use it in writing.
@Zz-_-
@Zz-_- 22 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to the rest of the who me series
@littlemadster
@littlemadster 4 ай бұрын
yeah, definitely have had some 9 moments in my life. im reminded of the expression "the devil you know" irt toughing out bad situations instead of risking making a change
@panicathedogpark
@panicathedogpark 4 ай бұрын
Uh oh, I might be an enneagram 9! I do have a couple of “one day” symbols, but for me, they tend to be less of an “I will achieve this someday” but more “I’ll never have this, but I’ll fantasize about it anyway because wouldn’t that be nice?” It’s part of why I have a thing for found family tropes. They’re my little fantasy I disappear into whenever I just need to feel ok. Edit: after further research, I might actually be more of a 4, but I’ll reserve full judgement until that video comes out
@isaacsteen4828
@isaacsteen4828 4 ай бұрын
Man now I wanna see videos for the other types so I can find more stories that fit the type that pushes my buttons
@tj3603
@tj3603 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely love that approach to enneagram. Looking forward to breakdown of other types.
@animascavenger
@animascavenger 4 ай бұрын
Holy shit 3 in 1, we eating good tonight!
@marksbennoke7971
@marksbennoke7971 20 күн бұрын
I know this might seem weird but I can honestly relate to this video deeply. I feel we want to try and to become better but we are so comfortable and used to where we are that becoming better can wait.
@belacile
@belacile 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait for this whole series to be finished. I feel like understanding all nine types will put each of them into perspective individually in a way that'll help my writing so much.
@fastestdraw
@fastestdraw 4 ай бұрын
I love this. Thanks. Gonna play it on repeat while I work on stuff for a while cause I feel like I need to listen a few times to really hear it. It sits perfectly between the 'storywriting advice I needed' and 'stories affect real life because they are the justifications that people use for themselves' that makes it resonant.
@aug1014
@aug1014 4 ай бұрын
This series is the answer to my prayers
@duskadown6751
@duskadown6751 4 ай бұрын
wtf ive never heard anyone describe the mechanisms of the type of problem im stuck in so accurately. awesome video + introduction to the enneagram
@Virgil_Hawkins
@Virgil_Hawkins 4 ай бұрын
This video literally explained the common thread between me and all my favourite characters and why I relate to them so much
@Adu767
@Adu767 2 ай бұрын
This better not be like a horoscope thing that is just vague enough to be agreeable, because everything in this video so far describes me perfectly.
@hedgelord0
@hedgelord0 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for telling me that I got that dog in me. It's unironically so helpful.
@JadenCRudolph
@JadenCRudolph 4 ай бұрын
I loved this as someone who has type 9 tendencies!! I love this approach to the enneagram, it really helps me get into a healthier perspective of how I need to operate around my own mind and habits.
@carloselvir2492
@carloselvir2492 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if this is correct, but it sounds like Ritchie from The Bear fits perfectly with the 9
@doodboy100
@doodboy100 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has studied the enneagram for a long time online through KZbin videos and used it in my fiction writing toolbelt I can already tell these videos are going to be my go to from now on.
@socksinsoda9517
@socksinsoda9517 4 ай бұрын
This actually was a lot more clear than a lot of other enneagram videos I've watched. I can't wait to see your other videos, especially since I've been kinda flip flopping between which type I have as my main driver, but also because these seem like very useful tools for characters.
@truthhurts9924
@truthhurts9924 4 ай бұрын
Excellent 👍 Thank you for clearing up so much stuff about this. 😅 It's been very silly, until you described it. I am totally hooked on this series. Keep it coming. 👍
@dandylion7149
@dandylion7149 4 ай бұрын
I hope you continue this series for all of the Enneagram types
@mosspoet6143
@mosspoet6143 4 ай бұрын
This series is gonna be SO useful writing my next book.
@mari_golds-bleeding-ink
@mari_golds-bleeding-ink 2 ай бұрын
I feel painfully called out but also relieved. It’s like being a shuffled sentence learning how to untangle themself (if that makes sense). I can put a lot more about myself into perspective, which is super helpful 😅 Thank you for this video!
@anisundecided
@anisundecided 4 ай бұрын
Loving this series so far, I was really into enneagram a few years ago and thought I was a 4, then a 9, but the way you describe some aspects of 9 here is making me rethink yet again. Super excited for the rest of the series :D
@mantaraywizard
@mantaraywizard 4 ай бұрын
This is interesting, i must say i havent thought very hard about 9s before. It reminds me of a video i watched about coping - people who have good coping skills usually have shittier lives because they deal with discomfort instead of acting on it.
@marl3ymarl3y86
@marl3ymarl3y86 4 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to me if different situations could end up creating the same type of pathology/narrative. For example, a nine could be created in situations where they were punished for loudness, their passion, or seeking too much, leading to complacency being their goal, but also being raised in an environment where their needs weren’t met or even having come from such a low place that their peak is someone else’s bare minimum. I don’t know how well I described this as I am new to this enneagram concept but the point being that while the situations may produce a similar affect or they can be considered different narrative starting points (the chapter 0 to the 9’s journey, if you will).
@SourSourSour
@SourSourSour 4 ай бұрын
I've had 9 for so long, did something recently to hopefully help push through but dear GOD am I not ready for it
@Angel-ip7pw
@Angel-ip7pw 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this ennegram series cause you made me realize my problem with all my characters is that i make everything single one a 3 and forget there are other reasons to do something other than "i gotta do good enough so im worthy of respect and life" 😭😭
@KDMSHOWCASE
@KDMSHOWCASE 4 ай бұрын
I’m sweating profusely now
@haleffect9011
@haleffect9011 4 ай бұрын
God damn, one of the best descriptions of Enneagram I've seen. looking forwards to the entire series!
@ChileBarile
@ChileBarile 4 ай бұрын
using the 27 subtypes as archetypes is rather fun tho cuz the subtype gives a more specific portrait of someone and what traits theyre likely to have
@svnnybvddy
@svnnybvddy 3 ай бұрын
Gotta argue Percy Jackson is not a 9. His driving motivation is not "everybody tells me I'm some incapable loser and now i have to go on a quest and i don't think i can 😥." it's "someone took my mom, the only person i care about on this earth and i'm gonna play their game to get her back" so all throughout the story, he comes across as already very self-assured of whatever he has decided his personality is and doesn't really get disproved at all. he's very different than typical isekai protagonists in that he states from the very beginning that he doesn't want this and till the end he still would rather not be doing it if not for very personal motivations. every time he saves the world, he tries to opt out because he straight up does not care, not because he thinks he can't. it isn't until someone he loves gets involved that he's out there risking life, limb, and liberty.
@TomEyeTheSFMguy
@TomEyeTheSFMguy 3 ай бұрын
So, what type would Percy Jackson be?
@svnnybvddy
@svnnybvddy 2 ай бұрын
@@TomEyeTheSFMguy not entirely sure tbh, but his motives are unabashedly selfish. The Percy Jackson story might be type 9 though, with the whole “you aren’t what everyone says you are” motif, but Percy himself (and honestly the whole trio maybe) is most likely not. Just my opinion though. Based on my shallow understanding of the enneagram he seems like a heart type but it’s been a long time since I read the series.
@tsunamiscientist568
@tsunamiscientist568 Ай бұрын
@@svnnybvddy I agree that he isn't a 9. I'd probably guess 6 or 8, based on Athena telling him that his fundamental flaw is his loyalty to his friends. I lean 8.
@Scifi_Centaur
@Scifi_Centaur 4 ай бұрын
Very excited for this while series; I've been wanting to use the enneagram as a jumping off point for my characters for ages because I'm really good at "well this is what the character IS and what they DO to make plot move" but not very good at "WHY character does thing". However, most of the enneagram resources are really challenging to apply in the character making context because of all the extra things that are added to soften the blow. So, very excited for all of these, this one has already helped me clarify the motivations of one of my characters
@Saber_-3-_
@Saber_-3-_ 4 ай бұрын
I'm doing good, thanks for asking. You have made me realize more about myself than I have ever had throughout my years in highschool. Turns out that I have had a 9 problem throughout my entire life, because from the very beginning my parents were the ones who would insist on me pursuing this or pursuing that. I was put in so many different extracurricular classes as a child, that I just gotten used to my parents forging my path for me. And I'm not mad at my parents for doing that looking back-it felt like they were just trying to help me find my purpose in an unfortunately inefficient way. But I've always been so stuck in finding my own purpose for the longest time, and taking action to puruse it. I feel like after graduating from high school and reflecting on myself a lot throughout summer break, I feel... cathartic? I guess that's the best way to put it. I jist feel like nothing can trully stop me again from doing what I want to do with my life, and your lectures confirms my feelings. Sorry for rambling on for so long, this has helped me immensely in finding myself. And I can't thank you enough for that. 💙
@ZXNovaBoom
@ZXNovaBoom 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm definitely a Type 9, though I've been looking into the Type 9 for a couple years now. Looking through various books and what not. When I've thought about the stuff I've went through my life, bad and good, one word that I feel can sum up how I react is "numb". It's not that I don't feel pain, I can just bare it, because I'm numb. Even joyful events, I sometimes wonder if I'm really enjoying it as much as I want to, cuz I still have that lingering feeling of numbness. I want to do things, there's a lot of things I wanna do in fact, but then I feel like I dunno what to do. Doing things is just, kinda hard. Also doesn't help that I have ADHD too. And I have always felt a sort of resonance with characters in fiction who seem meek but then have a moment when they release their anger, they explode. Yet, I try not to. I don't wanna feel anger. I don't wanna do something that might hurt others. It's not that I'm afraid of offending people either, I'm definitely no pushover, or at least, not a complete one. I put up with stuff because I think that's just how it should be, or I try to justify it as "I need to this because it's good for me". Happened many times, and sometimes I explode. Then I feel really bad. Try to put up with it again, or I *leave*. Better to get away from the conflict that way I can keep my peace. Yes. Peace. I love peace ya know. I've always avoided conflict, too much so. Yeah I'm a Type 9.
@OrdinarySpeaker
@OrdinarySpeaker 4 ай бұрын
After you first talked about the enneagram types I checked out that channel you recommended "You've got a type", but it'll be much easier and more comfortable learning it from you, so thanks for doing this series so that I don't have to think so hard about that stuff on my own
@pho9195
@pho9195 4 ай бұрын
very awesome big fan thank you for including charlie, my favorite character from the bleak dystopian adult swim show, smiling friends
@jeminwalker3634
@jeminwalker3634 4 ай бұрын
This is great. I can't write fast enough to keep up with you. Thank you for doing this in a video where "pause" and "back up and tell me that again" are a thing.
@aj4k
@aj4k 4 ай бұрын
I'm doing great. Thanks for doing this series.
@a_m_m444
@a_m_m444 2 ай бұрын
watching the Identity section with c-ptsd was like getting slapped in the face over and over again lmfao. i'm gonna start telling myself i do have that dog in me deep down whenever the urge to settle/spiral creeps up 💪
@TheIronicRaven
@TheIronicRaven 4 ай бұрын
Damn, I got inspiration whiplash from this haha. I really enjoyed the setup video for the Enneagram, and immediately went to this one next. At first, I didn't think the 9 was going to have much to offer for the story I want to tell, but then it turns out in the end the 9 is almost exactly the story I want to tell haha. Really excited to see the others done! I want more enlightenment!
@AgentMoss2217
@AgentMoss2217 Ай бұрын
Hearing 6:30 called me out so bad and now i know this "peace" i have still means I'm cooked.
@g00bleck
@g00bleck 2 ай бұрын
I have a generally good idea for two of my main characters, and these two specifically gain a very close friendship/maybe a romance. One is a 5 and one is a 9, and I think they compliment each other well. The 9 is a little further in their arc than the 5 when they meet. Id love to see your extended take on the different ways enneagram types interact.
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