Puget Sound Gateway Program - SR 167 Completion Project

[@sallymoen7932]

I'm excited about this. Whatever is done to improve conditions for peds.

[@waytoobiased]

nice to see even a little more land returned to its original stewards

[@hobog]

1:58 2:26 if the roundabout is two-lanes thick, what makes slip lanes worth the added encouragement of unsafe driving? Roundabouts do not need slip lanes to be effective. Riparian, pedestrian-bike, and native relation improvements are great!

[@MrSearay1962]

Nice! I used to commute through there for business. This should relieve at least some congestion.

[@billdescoteaux]

This is a great project for this area. But if we're going to build toll roads, let's consider building the Evergreen State Turnpike - to run the route that has been discussed for years as I-605, from Chehalis to Mount Vernon. But please, if this ever gets built, use human toll takers, or credit/debit card gates, or standardize Good To Go with EZPass so that out-of-staters don't get gouged for using it, or else they won't, and I-5 will continue to be jammed.

[@CyanideCarrot]

As someone who lives in the path of most proposed 605 routes, HELL TO THE FUCKING NO

[@carylfrench4067]

What will be done for the fife heights neighborhood to mitigate traffic noise?

[@pjt3887]

Just ridiculous that they're going to toll that road with all that we paid in gas taxes and all that we paid for light rail that we will never get to have access to. 😢

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[@delmarquisclark1590]

....but it's tolled.. :/

[@Kattbirb]

@@delmarquisclark1590 Tolls and congestion pricing, it's what's coming everywhere.

[@jamesgizasson]

​@@Kattbirb Subscription travel! Yay! :D

[@Kattbirb]

​@jamesgizasson If the major biking trails could just get connections, Cushman, Scott-Pierson and Spuyaləpabš Trails, I'd just ride an ebike everywhere and ignore the tolls. I already do that around a good chunk of Tacoma and save thousands.

[@jamesgizasson]

@@Kattbirb Bike trails and sidewalks are tragically under-implemented. I've driven all over the state, and some roads I've ridden are suicidal. :0

[@Kattbirb]

@@jamesgizasson Agreed. Thankfully a class 3 ebike makes many 25 MPH roads safe to travel, as you can keep up with traffic.

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[@BD-lq4id]

Just my opinion, respect to everyone working on this tolled project, but toll roads are unethical. More reason why Washington state has the most regressive tax system in the nation. Never forget when Washington state and WSDOT had people vote to allow tolling of the new Narrows Bridge with the promise that the toll funds would be to pay for the new bridge, only to adjust the law so the toll profits would divert to the general state transportation fund. This new project, as stated by the WSDOT, is mainly to benefit corporations like Amazon, so they can have quicker access between their warehouses and the port. Washington state will continue to prioritize corporate interests rather than the interest of the citizens of its state. Sure they'll build an underutilized "shared use path" and make some "native" wetlands but that's just a smokescreen to placate the population and puyallup tribe.

[@gioslost]

Wrong. Amazon doesn’t do a lot of volume from the port down 167. It does it down I-5 to Lacey.

[@randalllewis4485]

Actually, a Federal court ruled that Washington couldn't continue to collect tolls for the Narrows Bridge beyond the construction of the bridge which was the purpose for which the bonds were sold. There would be nothing illegal about selling bonds for maintenance of a bridge if that was part of legislative or public approval at the time the bonds were sold.

[@waytoobiased]

tbh paths like the one they're building are really important for offering people alternatives to driving

[@pjt3887]

This is exactly why no one can trust WSDOT. They tax and toll and tax some more.

[@CyanideCarrot]

Stop this madness. We don't need more freeways creating more traffic and more pollution. When will this agency ever learn

[@waytoobiased]

hopefully, this can give local governments more cover to make their streets more people-oriented?

[@pjt3887]

Actually we do because most of us are spending and losing 2 to 3 hours of our lives sitting in traffic every single day which in fact is creating more pollution. Versus having a far more direct route that people can access so they can carve off that time turn off the car and since more and more people are going electric the pollution issue isn't quite as grand as it once was..

[@Dragonfly_vbz]

What are you so unhappy about soon we will not have polluting cars. 😮

[@waytoobiased]

@@Dragonfly_vbz electric cars are better, but tires running along the road still create some pollution, and the same amount of traffic

[@waytoobiased]

@@pjt3887 unfortunately, cars are really inefficient with usage of space, so if you make enough lanes so everyone can get where they need to quickly, there will be little left in your town or city besides all those lanes. Not to mention, building all those lanes covers up a lot of land that could be used by people or ecosystems, and produces lots of carbon in the process if you want to reduce traffic without bulldozing the whole county, try some fast trains that get people to common destinations with a lot less land and traffic (for shorter trips, bicycles and streetcars can help, and watch the highway traffic evaporate like a puddle in the Sahara

[@streltsy]

Is the trail seriously going to be called that? 😂

[@satoshimaebara7190]

And? What’s the problem?

[@streltsy]

@@satoshimaebara7190 take a guess

[@Kattbirb]

@@streltsy Are you new to the area? A lot of our places are given Salish names.

[@satoshimaebara7190]

@@Kattbirb Right? The tourist mentality is a common thing, I guess.

[@hobog]

Get with the times streltsy. That said, the Duwamish Tribe and Skagit native groups are still shortchanged by WA and fed gov. Duwamish still unrecognized, and deserves rights to do a condo-commercial block like what's happening by Vancouver BC's burrard bridge. The Skagit dams still lack salmon passages

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