WTF is a Melodic Rhythm? - Music Theory from Architects “Hereafter”

Learn what "melodic rhythms" are, and how you can use them to inject primal energy into your music, like Architects does in their new single “Hereafter” (from upcoming album "Holy Hell").
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THEORY
Rhythm is ancient and primal, as our ancestors were almost certainly banging on things long before they were blowing into bone flutes. Now, fast forward over 40,000 years, and the colossal opening riff of the new Architects single “Hereafter” has this same primal energy to it, because it would function just as well if it was played on one pitch. This makes it a "melodic rhythm", which is a musical concept whereby a memorable rhythm is usually composed first, then pitches are assigned to the notes afterwards. Examples of "melodic rhythms" range from Beethoven’s 5th symphony to Architects new single. The difference between a "melodic rhythm" and a melody, is that a "melodic rhythm" is still recognizable when its melody is removed, or when the pitches are all changed. And that’s exactly why our example in this video still sounds like the “Hereafter” riff, even though we’ve changed all the pitches.
Step 1: Pulse & Backbeat
Set your grid to 4 bars of 4/4, at a tempo of 121 BPM. Now, we’re gonna start by giving your creation a heartbeat. So, hit a cymbal (we chose the china) on every 1/4 note beat. This is your beast’s pulse! Next, it’s snare time. And Architects drummer, Dan Searle, went with a super groovy halftime backbeat here, which is when you spank the snare on beat 3, instead of the regular beat 2 and beat 4.
Step 2: 16ths & Variation
Ah yeah, it’s kick time! So, we’re gonna get this party started with a bunch of 1/16 notes on the kick, for momentum, and throw a few on the snare too. And you only need to program 2 bars, cos then you just copy and paste ‘em into bars 3 and 4. Also, be sure to use syncopation, for maximum groove! Syncopation is when you play an off-beat, but not the on-beat just before it. And on one of your syncopated 1/8 note kicks, hit a crash as well, to really accent that off-beat. And for the ultimate syncopation, don’t play a kick on beat 1 of bar 2 and bar 4. Yeah this is such a sick trick from Dan, and it takes this groove to a whole new level! Then the final bit of Step 2 is to simply add one 1/16 note to bar 4, to give it some variation, so it rolls around to the beginning.
Step 3: Triplets
So many rhythms these days consist of straight notes only, which is fine, but sprinkling a few triplets into a rhythm that’s mainly straight notes, is just so tasty, as they’re totally unexpected! So, change your grid to 1/16 triplets, and get sprinkling. Don’t overdo it though, once per bar is plenty!
Step 4: Melody
Lastly, now that your rhythm is pumping, it’s time to turn it into a "melodic rhythm". So copy and paste your kick and snare rhythm into a guitar, bass or synth track, and then extend all the notes to the right, so there’s no rests in between the notes. Next, move the notes up and down to create your melody. And if you’re going for something heavy like Architects, then use dissonant intervals, which are the intervals of 1 semitone, 3 semitones, 6 semitones, 8 semitones, 10 semitones, and 11 semitones. And with that, you’re done!
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Hack Music Theory is the pioneering notation-free method for making great music. Taught by award-winning music lecturer Ray Harmony, and his protégé (and wife) Kate Harmony, from their studio in Vancouver BC, Canada. Ray is the author of critically-acclaimed book series "Hack Music Theory", and has made music with Serj Tankian (System of a Down), Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine), Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), Devin Townsend (Strapping Young Lad), Ihsahn (Emperor), Kool Keith (Ultramagnetic MCs), Madchild (Swollen Members), and many more. Kate has the highest grade distinction in Popular Music Theory from the London College of Music, and is the only person on the planet who's been trained by Ray to teach his Hack Music Theory method! While these Hack Music Theory KZbin lessons teach music theory for producers and DAW users, they are designed to accommodate all music makers (songwriters, guitarists, etc.) and all genres, from Electronic Music to R&B, Pop to Hip-Hop, Reggae to Rock, EDM/Dance to Metal (and yes, we djefinitely Djent!).
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[@muhammadrezahaghiri]

When I heard Beethoven's 5th symphony in your video (Played with a distorted bass/guitar sound!) I told myself "Beethoven DJENTed heavier than all the humanity". Anyway, I loved this technique, and I'll use it in my future productions!

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[@brittany-jonathanloiselle3526]

I’ve just been getting back into writing and recording my own music. Having a killer drum sound to accompany me during that process would be extremely helpful in this journey that I’m taking! Good luck to all!

[@psychoactivednb]

This is my favorite music theory ANYTHING...though I read, read, read, my brain is made for learning this way. Then going right to Ableton and getting my ears and technique better. Thanks for everything you both do.

[@JohnAnderson-vo7en]

Your hack on syncopation was amazingly simple and sounds so good. Thanks Ray/Kate!

[@AaronSmithDrums]

this is tight. I’ve never seen a video breaking down a song like this especially one of my favorite bands. this is also my first video of yours I’m watching so I’m really interested to watch more from you guys. I’ve been a fan of Nolly and his mixes ever since I discovered the pool of talent that is Periphery and I think it’s so sick that he’s put out insane drum packs. I just started working in a DAW January of this year when I decided to start doing drum covers and as much as I love to write parts on a kit, I feel like it’d be a lot easier and more productive to keep it in the DAW and with a beautiful sounding sample pack like this GGD one, I think it’d be perfect to use for demos as well. two birds with one stone. my old band’s last EP actually used a GGD sample pack and they came out amazing so I’m biased in terms of my favorite samples at the moment as well. stoked to dig into your channel! :)

[@QuanVHftu]

I already have the GGD modern & massive so I don't need the gift. I just want to say the way you are supporting us by putting the transcript at the description of the video is amazing and priceless. Thanksssss!

[@rodrigolaporte274]

Awesome! I didn't know the concept. Will start using it, sounds terrific!

[@HackMusicTheory]

Yay, that's great to hear Rodrigo! Thanks, as always, for watching and connecting. We wish you a fantastic weekend full of music making! Kate :)

[@dancinghippy137]

Came here for melodic rhythm explanation, left as a new subscriber. Great video!

[@HackMusicTheory]

Aw thanks, Dancing Hippy, we really appreciate your kind words. A warm welcome to the Hack Music Theory community, we're stoked and grateful to have you here! Hope this finds you well in these challenging times :)

[@HAZARDOUS88]

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[@VNDROID]

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[@HackMusicTheory]

Haha thanks V N D R O I D! When people are smiling/laughing, they're learning :D Happy music making and we hope to hear from you again! Kate :)

[@JesusOfPaign]

Holy shit only just found this channel like a week and a half ago, and after watching a few videos i found myself dissecting Hereafter while at the gym. Then boom you post this. Not what i expected from this channel but what a pleasant surprise.

[@maurycy_gnc]

Thank you for your amazing content. I wanted to get your apprenticeship but unfortunately I lost my job. Hopefully I can find a new one soon so I can get it!

[@MichaelLeeMetalProject]

This is exactly what my regular daw session looks and sounds like. lol Josh the guitarist from Architects is a riff master. This was awesome to listen to you guys talk theory behind his bands music.. P.s. (I'm a superior drummer owner, no need for entering the contest) but that's really cool y'all are helping out others in need. Big Thumbs Up!

[@jayvessel3444]

I love this channel and I love drums!

[@shimaparsa524]

So sick!

[@CellarStudioProductions]

This video is dope! I think that I should win this (AWESOME) Drum Library because of the following: I´ve always loved music and my only birthday wish when I turned 4 years old was a drum set. I got one of those cheap plastic drum sets that some stores sell from time to time and I wouldn´t stop playing it. My parents asked a local music school if they´d educate me, but I was too young. I would have needed to be 8 years old to be allowed to take drum lessons. But that wouldn´t stop me, so I started learning the basics of rhythm on a so called Djembe (it´s an african instrument if I´m not mistaken). At age 5 I started to get bored and wanted to switch to drums. After sort of auditioning in front of one of the drum instructors the school agreed to give me drum lessons. I got my first drum set and everything could have been fine, if it wasn´t for one of my neighbours who was (and still is) working in a home office. He gave me a time limit of 15 minutes a day from 2pm until 2:15 pm where I was allowed to play. And ONLY in that period of time. That´s why I later (on my next birthday) switched to an electronic kit in order to have the ability to play whenever I wanted to. Years went by and today I stumbled upon this video. Today: I am currently 14 years old and I started producing my own music more than a year ago. I started taking piano lessons and I´m teaching myself how to play guitar and bass (using the knowledge of music theory that I get in school) and how to mix and master my projects. And that is, why I think that I should win this Drum Library. Ever since I´ve started to produce music, I´ve always wanted to get an awesome drum sound, but I never really quite got there. (for reference, please feel free to check out some of my music on my KZbin channel "Cellar Studio Productions") I think that this Library would be just perfect. Not only because I love Architects, Dan, "Nolly" Getgood and Matt Halpern. So... I´d be extremely happy, if I won this. Thank you for the great video and taking the time to read this! Greetings from Germany, Dominik \m/

[@AlefSousa017]

I would really love to get the GGD because *cough cough* I want my drums to GET (sounding) GOOD, hahaha. Thank you two so much for the lesson, it really helped a lot! Cheers!

[@lankysnowchimp730]

I was recently experimenting with this concept to accompany guitar or drum sections with midi piano - I play guitar, not piano, so had to transfer my knowledge across. Ive been doing my own midi drums for a while, just using the stock Logic Pro X plugin, which is great. But GGD would be the only upgrade I'd personally consider at this point... Saving time on the eq and compression stages or not having to mess with the tuning of the samples would be amazing.

[@lucamartinezbergamin8804]

Would love to get my hands on the GGD Modern & Massive since I love Nolly's work with Periphery and Devin Townsend Project. Those drums really do sound massive.

[@Nivenization]

Thank you.

[@steveburgess5036]

Would love to the pack, my alt-rock band would use it and love it!

[@JohnAnderson-vo7en]

I have been using a drum pack called "GETBADDRUMS" and hate it. I would love this library. My wife and cat would be thrilled too.

[@charliesimon7595]

I need those drums because I'm a starving boy who walked all the way to Iowa from Northern Brazil in just 2 days. And let me tell you, those drums are looking very tasty right now and I think they will be the sustenance I need to stay alive. Here's what I plan on doing with them if you would be gracious enough to give them to me. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease a 9x13-inch pan. Prepare the topping by mixing together the snares, kicks, nutmeg, and hi-hats. Sift together the flour, baking powder, cymbals, and salt. Beat butter and snares together in a large bowl with an electric mixer until light and fluffy; add eggs one at a time, thoroughly beating each egg into the butter mixture before adding the next. Add apple butter, toms, and bass germ or bran cereal. Add sifted dry ingredients alternately with cowbells; mix and master well after each addition. Pour half the batter into the prepared pan; sprinkle with half of the topping. Pour remaining batter into pan and top with the rest of the topping. Bake in the preheated oven until a tester inserted in the center comes out clean, about 40 minutes. My hands are shaking as I type this and I feel light headed due to mal nutrition but if you would be kind enough to send me the drum kit please send it soon and I will mail you a piece of the final product if you would like. If not, that's totally fine, I understand. Ill love you guys all the same and Ill just find some ways to eat the eggs. You are the best

[@HackMusicTheory]

Hey hey Charlie, great to hear from you again! Hope you're recovering from your long journey :) We enjoyed your recipe big time, as it was soooo creative! You were definitely our runner-up! We'll be having more giveaways in the future, so stay tuned. Also, we're both vegan, so maybe next time, make your recipe dairy/egg free ;) All the best with your music making/baking, and we hope to hear from you again soon! Take care, Kate :)

[@binzianer]

I want the GGD pack because I'm too much of a cheapskate to buy it myself. I have the absolute minimum recording gear. For example I use this 2002 Ibanez RG (which is solid!), a behringer XM85000, a POD HD500, the ampl free bass VST aaand the trial perfect drums lite kit. I am happy with that set up and I can work with it! (by the way I just released a full EP with that, check it out!) But the only thing that really bothers me is that I don't have a China at hand, so I would really like a drum VST that has a China. Also, the GGD bang so I wouldn't mind that upgrade :-)

[@dnatwister]

Those sprinkled 32nd notes/triplets really did spice things up a bit.

[@ad_andi]

I think I should win the Modern & Massive drum library because I decided to subscribe to your channel before I even found out I had to do that to participate in the giveaway haha. I found it really helpful to understand Architects' new song in a better way, so thank you very much for that. The primary reasons are as follows though: I used to play in a band and music has always been Plan A in my life. When we broke up 5 years ago, my world came crashing down and I almost stopped playing guitar altogether, as I felt that my dreams were done for. I followed Plan B - finishing my studies and becoming a teacher - but I have realized that Plan B doesn't fulfill me. I go to work every day and I always give my best, but I just don't feel it. I've been thinking about starting to record for quite a while now, but the fact that I'm approaching my 30s scares me and I keep putting it off. I feel like I'm stuck in a hole I cannot get out because I'm afraid to climb out. Or maybe I'm afraid of the fall? I don't know, to be honest. But I believe that winning the drum library could be the rope that helps me get out of my self-dug hole. I think it could be extra-motivation to begin following my dreams again. Another reason is that I've been in love with Architects' music since I first saw them in 2010. Most of the people had come for Despised Icon and there were probably only about 100-200 people in the hall when Architects played. I've seen them at least six times since. Hollow Crown was the first album by them I heard and I loved it. I listened to it permanently, tried to imitate Tom's style and wrote music inspired by my favourite band. I listened to Ruin and loved it. I stopped listening to them for a while because The Here and Now wasn't my cup of tea at that time (today I'm a huge fan of that album as well), and I got into them again with Daybreaker. The last two albums have been perfect, so I can't wait to see where they're going with Holy Hell. The message of Tom's death hit me very hard, since he's always been my favourite guitar player, composer and lyricist. Thank you, Tom. T//S

[@jthorpe4droid]

Not entering the giveaway as I prefer synths. Just came to say hi to you both and another great video, hope your having a cool weekend.

[@ShadowViper001]

'Ey, nice, I was just listening to Hereafter a couple minutes ago. When I saw this video on said song, That made my day so much better, and the concept talked about in this video is really useful. Also, holy hell, do those drum sounds sound so good. I have been looking and trying to find good drum samples... and this hits the mark. I can only do drum samples because I do not have the available resources for a drum set (or electronic drums, for that matter). I do not have enough available space, so drums samples plus my DAW are the best i can do. So that is my thoughts for the giveaway for the GetGood Drums.

[@HackMusicTheory]

Haha, we're so happy to hear that this made your day better, and was a useful video to you :D Have a great weekend ShadowViper001!

[@JustinNogle]

Killer video again guys - THANK YOU! What a massive sound! Though often underappreciated, the drums are the rock (ha!) and backbone of hard rock and metal music (and other genres). I can't and don't want to have whimpering drums... I need thunderous, barbaric, primal, slamming beats to make my riffage come alive! Enter GGD! Help my raging riffs marry devastating drums!

[@PhillyWatts]

I would love to win Get Good Drums so that I can try out the syncopation trick from this video! No kick on the 2 and the 4 : )

[@frankbongiovanni4028]

great video guys and you got some good content on your channel! To answer you question, I would looooooove to win the Modern and Massive library to make my sound jist that: MASSIVE!! GGD puts out great cintent and I haven't been able to swing it lately so I'm stuck with sub par samples that make me and everyone who listens to my music vewy sad. Let's make myself and my listeners happy again!

[@00042]

I see why "Rhythm is a Dancer" is quite the cool title for a track.. :)

[@dxstudiodawn]

I should win a copy of the GGD library because I seriously have to stop playing air drums and making drum sounds with my mouth when composing riffs, imagining how it will all sound like. My wife is starting to get worried. Having a good library to sort a beat out for jamming would be amazing, and would allow me to get stuff produced a lot faster! And would also allow me to keep my marriage! Help a brother out!

[@megagygon0126]

Hahaha, modal interchange, contemporary counterpoint and melodic rhythm should be the new holy trinity for an efficient Revolution in pop music ! By the way, i really like the groove of your version : more energetic and more mysterious... Thank you for all those great lessons !

[@EoPatrux]

I need to GET GOOD DRUMS so I can write melodic rhythms (aka breakdowns)

[@arima44]

Is the give away for Modern and massive finished? If not, I wouldn't mind adding a copy to my library. I am curious about the quality of the samples. Is there like a trial version that I can use to get a sense of the product?

[@kagisonkele5367]

I should win cause I am still climbing the un-forgiving learning curve of music production and anything to make life a bit easier would be super. Incredible pack =.

[@brandonholmes5930]

I think I should win the GGD pack because I really want to introduce more metal into hiphop and rap genres. I've started my own business recently selling rap/trap/hiphop beats but I've always loved metal too. A big step towards that would be having a solid set of drum samples to use (anything sounds metal with good metal drums, right?)

[@hectorsoulless]

Everybody deserves to win, because everyone deserves a chance to utilize such an incredible tool to carve some rad drum sounds for their music, which is what I’ll be doing too. 🙏🏻 Here’s a gnarly dad joke for my chances: Why do cemeteries have fenced around them? People are dying to get in!

[@theScienceOfFear2012]

what is it called at the 1:13 part of the chorus in "Hereafter" where you hear Dan carry another fill into the next bar instead of going back to the beat ? thanks.

[@HackMusicTheory]

It's a drum fill over the bar line. Super tasty, right? We've actually got a video specifically on drum fills (including this type), which you may find useful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ_LlIWkhq2mf8k - Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, we really appreciate you stopping by :)

[@theScienceOfFear2012]

thanks for the reply.

[@ReyhanJoseph]

Luv your videos definetly going to up my hip hop production which is why I should win.

[@HackMusicTheory]

Hey hey Reyhan, great to hear from you again! Thanks for watching and entering our giveaway. We hope you have an awesome weekend!

[@ReyhanJoseph]

@@HackMusicTheory thanks for the opportunity to learn from you. And here's some 🍵 for the road ahead. Music notes do change the world.

[@HackMusicTheory]

Aww, you're very kind. Thanks for the support and the tea!!

[@aurynbearer]

I should win the pack so I could finally stop bashing every damn cooking pot in the house. Great video, BTW!

[@rbtwear]

I’ve often been told I’m a beat off, I figure this could help.

[@ozricbish]

....winning GGD would be one hell of an upgrade to my two-cymballed tambourine...:-0

[@ronh8126]

Wow didn't know I needed to be a composer to be entered into the giveaway for a drum library. Surreal, but enter me anyway. ;)

[@matafreaka]

Hey guys. Nice videos. Well I had one question. Can your music theory help me in making edm or to be a music producer??

[@psychoactivednb]

Yes, the theory behind it. You have a lot of different avenues to go to be a full on producer. Keep up with theory, composition, sound design, and engineering.....and anything else you add will just make the finished product all the better.

[@HackMusicTheory]

Yes indeed! The theory in all our videos is totally applicable to EDM (cos we make EDM too). And on top of that, we also have a ton of EDM specific videos (just click "Videos" at the top of our channel, and scroll through). Here's a video on bass drops to get you started: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXSYoouCmtueeJo

[@RpgRiser1]

I should win this GGD giveaway so I can finally save humanity and make Beethoven djent, which is all we really need to hear to gain true happiness tbh.

[@Michael_leopard]

I should win the getgood drums because they are so damn tasty! I needs it.

[@ourfinesthour6994]

Hey Kate and Ray. I enjoy your videos a great deal , they have given me alot of great songwriting advice. I would love to win a copy of the GGD drum program. As a guitarist I sometimes find it diffficult to get my drums sounding good with my DAW (Mixcraft). I did some research and read reviews on GGD and all have been extremly postive. This program would be the answer to my dream of being able to record massive drums , and my music needs massive drums! Well then again, who doesn't. I hope you consider me for the giveaway it would mean so much to me and my creative journey. Cheers, Jim Burlakos.

[@viralfans5501]

Can you do tutorial on 'God is a Women ' guitar ,thanks in advance

[@lemonjoe8482]

what's the program you're using? :)

[@HackMusicTheory]

Hi LemonJOe again! We use Reaper and are big fans of the software. What kind of music do you make?

[@willianwyler5941]

My songs are bad, but I want to get good (got it? 😉 ). I also want to leave the dark side and join the lighTea side (aha! I did it again!) with your apprenticeship program. In case it is not clear, if I win the the GGD it’ll be easier to get better at songwriting! Thanks for the great content! Cheers from Brasil

[@HackMusicTheory]

Hey hey Willian, it's great to hear from you! Have you moved to Brazil? How's your music making going? We'd love to have you join us on the apprenticeship, so do let us know if you have any questions! Have a fantastic week and talk soon!! Kate :)

[@willianwyler5941]

Hi! I haven't moved yet, just holidays at the moment :) I guess I postpone the course due to lack of time, but i gotta pull the trigger soon and become an apprentice... i take so long to write my songs, it's frustrating! Have a nice week!

[@InfotoxIn]

Honestly I've been looking for a drum library that works well for a few metal influenced projects and this sounds siiick. Also I'm broke as helllllll so pick me, obviously.

[@shitmandood]

The last time I won a free giveaway, I never got the email but it got mentioned in the video. lol. Emailed the guy to tell him who I was & my email address, but didn't get a reply back. Oh well!

[@Dmitry___S.]

I should *NOT* win this incredible pack made by dudes from one of my favourite bands, because My roommates and random ppl walking by sitting me think I'm crazy when I play air drums. Imagine their faces when they start to hear the sounds too! 😦😖😠😡🤯

[@josecordova5917]

I think I should win GGD's Modern and Massive because, I'm currently looking for new drum software and I think GGD is the way to go. Also, I just split up with my gf of 5 years and am trying to take up more time making music again. Please help me not sit around ruminating all day! lol

[@drkstrnd]

I get GoodDrums?

[@Toss-T]

I'm Making Drum and Bass, the bass part is fine, i got a ugly ass bass face. To complement that, my drums need to get good and the sample pack would definitely hit the spot. Or plastic surgery, that might also do some good:P

[@roykhau3675]

Damn I didn't know Steve-o was a musician

[@leofrasionio5290]

Hi I should win the GGD drums pack because I have never ever won anything from a KZbin giveaway except this one time when I won but never received the prize 😥,please let this be the time and also keep it up with the best hacks!!!

[@deepsurface]

OK, its me again, on my PC, bangin out sounds on ACID Pro, and looking at the drum midi, doing a blatant copy before promptly screwin around and moving everything, so i thought i'd say that other guy deepsurfaceunitzog is a good guy, father to four, witty, brilliant, talented, cursed with an ex wife who IS the devil, and handsome as all get out, 'cept Ray is better lookin. So that other deep or me should win the drum pack, not both, although i and me deserve it, no not deserve, ive done nothing but type words. on second thought, give it to me that other deep owes me money. (im really the other deep too, hes my phone acct, where i take screenshots of your midi charts, cause i cant remember nothing . Wonder if you read all this? PICK ME! Love you both. WWG1WGA!!!!

[@deepsurfaceunitzog]

I am a coffee drinker, I suspect that you 2 are very biased against javaholics, if I win is it because you are trying to fix your Karma? Is it because God said "hey, Deep could really do with some better, more realistic sounding drums, i think I'm gonna hook him up." Or did I win because there are zero spelling errors in this post and thats cause I am the most deserving, innovative metal brained 50 year old man that ever existed and cannot stop making songs that the world will never hear, but the vibrations of them have been unleashed on the universe and saturation takes time? Love yer stuff, sooo very informative, even if i lose.

[@psychoactivednb]

I believe Kate is a coffee drinker? And Ray is the "obsessive" tea drinker. :P

[@deepsurfaceunitzog]

@@psychoactivednb i dont know, ive heard her say "teeeeeaaah", kinda nervous, thanks for the anxiety😵

[@HackMusicTheory]

You guys are too funny 😊

[@ericzueff]

I should win because Ray is pretty? :)

[@ElisabethKitzing]

How do you two have such great white teeth when you drink so much tea?

[@downedaviator]

I should win because I am very old and poor and I want something to leave to my children when I die ;) 😜