FBI agent believed clothing taken and bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders search warrant request

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@tameramares5785
@tameramares5785 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this is still not solved. These poor angels deserve justice...💔
@chrismathis4162
@chrismathis4162 2 жыл бұрын
If you knew the intelligence of most cops you would believe it.
@akbarshabazzjenkins2436
@akbarshabazzjenkins2436 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth and Lyrics death's have never been solved also Why not ,4 girls have lost their lives and nothing has been solved ,
@EvT673
@EvT673 2 жыл бұрын
the guy passed away a while back its just a tragedy only the truth is justice.
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this crime need to be solved and they deserve justice but they are no Angels in any sense or appearance especially if you’re talking about biblical Angels
@bridgelaurie9490
@bridgelaurie9490 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvT673 turns out that’s a lie
@velocitygirl8551
@velocitygirl8551 2 жыл бұрын
5 years is a very long time if you are waiting for justice.
@paisley1134
@paisley1134 2 жыл бұрын
Or to be cleared publicly like the man that owned this property then pass away before they even did that.
@velocitygirl8551
@velocitygirl8551 2 жыл бұрын
@@paisley1134 indeed!
@theresalee4844
@theresalee4844 Жыл бұрын
Add 5 more to it!
@sadeaton
@sadeaton 2 жыл бұрын
It still bothers me that the tips and clues left behind by the Libby girl has not resulted into an arrest.
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. She fought for justice. I so hoped it would be rewarded. Hope. 🌧 🌈
@ESBEAUTII
@ESBEAUTII 2 жыл бұрын
What tips and clues?
@sadeaton
@sadeaton 2 жыл бұрын
@@ESBEAUTII Cell phone photo and voice recording of the suspect along with time stamps of each.
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
How many fat guys who fit the profile are roaming around Delphi?
@glamvan8658
@glamvan8658 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, it bothers me too. I believe that, the killer used the creek to wash away evidence. He may have assaulted the girls in the water. If it wasn't for her smart intuitions we wouldn't be talkin' about this case. 🕵‍♀️
@shelleybleu4903
@shelleybleu4903 2 жыл бұрын
Poor man the last years of his life ruined by suspicion. Terrible
@geminiproject1997
@geminiproject1997 2 жыл бұрын
What came out about Ron Logan was he was cheating on his wife or his girlfriend and was meeting and drinking with another woman and lied to cover up the fact that he was having an affair and drinking and driving in violation of the terms of his probation.
@Jesbecause
@Jesbecause 2 жыл бұрын
The things these videos, don't tell you. Thank you for the update. I was like wow, at first.
@Jay-ez4sw
@Jay-ez4sw 2 жыл бұрын
@Osterreich yeah but I imagine if he was home, being that he would still be on the property that would still be in the area. It is very coincidental that their suspect just happens to be dead. There is too much going wrong in this case they butchered this case.. and I have no confidence in that investigation.
@hbic3
@hbic3 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Use your head. Yes, he lived there, so yes his phone would show him at home. However, he claimed to not have been home from before the girls went missing until about 6pm. So his phone would NOT have shown him at his property. Clearly, they tracked his phone to show that he didn't leave his phone at home. That he WAS home at the time they went missing and then went to the dump. That's how they caught him driving and lying about his whereabouts. He may have even had location on, on his phone and was able to actually map all his movements via location data, and not just tower pings. He also steered searchers away from that area that night claiming it was too hard to get to, yet there was news footage of him climbing that hill with relative ease. His entire alibi didn't make sense, even considering he wasn't supposed to be driving. All he had to say was that his cousin drove him to the dump and then to the bar. We get why he would leave out the trip to the bar, but why leave out the trip to the dump? Even if covering up an affair (I believe he was a windower), why leave out the trip to the dump?
@Jay-ez4sw
@Jay-ez4sw 2 жыл бұрын
@Osterreich So if it's not the Kline's then that means there just happened to be another perverted creep praying on the girls at the very exact time that the Kline perverts were praying on the girls. Once again too coincidental. Or that area is literally run by creeps which probably isn't that far off.
@hbic3
@hbic3 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-ez4sw He died of COVID.
@haileyryan
@haileyryan 2 жыл бұрын
the part that’s super sad to me is libby probably felt they were in danger and that’s why she took the photo and video. she knew if something happened she wanted him to be caught and yet they still haven’t solved this case
@rogerstubenrouch7187
@rogerstubenrouch7187 2 жыл бұрын
he definitely made them suspicous of what he was up to....
@lornalulich9562
@lornalulich9562 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@bridgelaurie9490
@bridgelaurie9490 2 жыл бұрын
Guess what guys
@TheReevessss
@TheReevessss 2 жыл бұрын
Also thinking, as he needed keep head down on that dangerous bridge. Stopped him seeing girl filming fort'ly.
@johndurrer7869
@johndurrer7869 2 жыл бұрын
Well she was also the one that led him there. She should’ve known the boy she was talking to wasn’t real. It was damn obvious and it got Abby killed
@juliegranzow8450
@juliegranzow8450 2 жыл бұрын
I Seriously don't think it's Ron Logan. Those supposed witnesses surely would of recognized him. Don't just blame it on the dead guy to close the case! While the real killer walks free (or is behind bars for some other crime).
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
What "supposed witnesses" are you talking about?
@juliegranzow8450
@juliegranzow8450 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrethegiant2877 Years ago, they said they had 2 witnesses that saw Bridge Guy on the trail on the day it happened. If that's the case, surely those 2 witnesses would of known right away if it was Ron Logan after seeing him. Those witnesses who saw Bridge Guy on the trail knows what the killer looks like.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliegranzow8450 You are talking about Ron Logan walking all the way down the trail and all the way across the bridge where he would've definitely been seen. What really happened is he ascended to the end of the bridge they were walking to, walked out onto the bridge past them, then turned around alarming Libby to film him. At that point they were trapped. If he comes from that side of the bridge no one would've seen him.
@juliegranzow8450
@juliegranzow8450 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrethegiant2877 Do some history on the case. In the beginning, yrs ago, they said 2 eye witnesses saw Bridge Guy on the trail before the murders occurred that day. One woman was walking her dogs and some other guy had a flannel on. Something like that. So if there was really 2 different witnesses seeing this guy, they would of definitely known it was Ron Logan who appeared on the news shortly after. And that's how they came up with those sketches, as well.
@diannawilson1329
@diannawilson1329 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliegranzow8450 the guy in the flannel shirt knows Ron Logan and would have recognized him.
@lorimarie8771
@lorimarie8771 2 жыл бұрын
Blame a dead guy and the case is closed right?
@Jay-ez4sw
@Jay-ez4sw 2 жыл бұрын
It's like this town likes to mislead everyone about what really happened. The F.B.I should be more involved with this.
@CoralineJonesPinkPalace
@CoralineJonesPinkPalace 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@alissaadams817
@alissaadams817 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. They should have released this years ago and more
@Precosint
@Precosint 6 ай бұрын
And so much more.
@kyleeconrad
@kyleeconrad 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he leave the girls bodies on his own property? ...if he did it? That makes no sense.
@blakehague7296
@blakehague7296 2 жыл бұрын
Because perhaps this murderer knew what we would all think.
@wanefelicia8779
@wanefelicia8779 2 жыл бұрын
R u new to crime shows? R u not aware of the many past murderers who have done just that??? 🤔...
@blakehague7296
@blakehague7296 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanefelicia8779 hard to believe that’s damn near the only mistake this guy made aside from being recorded
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
He could have planned to move the bodies, but searchers were too close. But you ask an important question.
@blakehague7296
@blakehague7296 2 жыл бұрын
@@sciencenotstigma9534 someone in that search party almost had to be the murderer. I wouldn’t be surprised if the murderer was steering people away from the murder scene.
@tru3293
@tru3293 2 жыл бұрын
Everyday I turn on the news hoping that this case will be solved, Everyday...
@Faeriefungus
@Faeriefungus 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@luciato8972
@luciato8972 2 жыл бұрын
Same, and i dont even live in the same continent these girls were from.
@tracythehippiechick
@tracythehippiechick 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 2 жыл бұрын
Today is the day 💗
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 2 жыл бұрын
Well. Yesterday lol
@paisley1134
@paisley1134 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame the police didn't solve this before this innocent land owner passed away, they could have publicly cleared the man and he could have passed knowing that everyone knew he did not harm those girls.
@RavnerRavner
@RavnerRavner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But that he was never charged the internet sleuths saw that his name was dragged through the dirt.
@ashleyvalentine2790
@ashleyvalentine2790 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Now the sob is behind bars. Feel sorry for Mr Logan 😢
@foxspitzer7116
@foxspitzer7116 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure this Ron Logan guy is innocent. He looks a helluva lot more like the guy in the video footage, but hey don't believe your lying eyes, you probably swallow everything the media tells you whole like most fat, stupid, lazy Americans. I wonder what friends this Ron Logan had to have the bodies on his property and be a dead ringer in the video footage, same walk and all, and get off the hook.
@greeneyedmimibostian3013
@greeneyedmimibostian3013 2 жыл бұрын
He may have been in on it. These men are pervs
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. Жыл бұрын
He lied on his Alibi & asked others to lie for him. Didn’t exactly help his case.
@maureenfesler6423
@maureenfesler6423 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell he's a guy who's virtually blind without his glasses. Among other things that make this highly unlikely.
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 2 жыл бұрын
@universal 🤣🤣🤣
@johndurrer7869
@johndurrer7869 2 жыл бұрын
That poor man. Having to live out his final days with everyone thinking he did this horrible crime. But no stone was gonna be left unturned and he understood that and respected it
@katyg3873
@katyg3873 2 жыл бұрын
1) of course his phone records woollike put him in the area? That was his property. 2) His alibi ended up putting him in jail for dui. So he had nothing to do with the murders.
@frostythehoeman6969
@frostythehoeman6969 2 жыл бұрын
lol your conclusions don't make sense to exonerate him
@hbic3
@hbic3 2 жыл бұрын
He claimed to not be home all day. It proves he lied about his where abouts and when. He claimed he wasn't home until about 6. They tracked his phone and found he was home before 6pm. CLEARLY his phone pinged him home at the time of the girls went missing. Wake Up! He did it.
@Serf_dom
@Serf_dom 2 жыл бұрын
@@hbic3 He lied because he was committing probation violations. He was PROVEN to be at a restaurant out of town drinking during the murders. Did you hear the part where this "news" cast says the document was from THE EARLY DAYS of the investigation? Ron was a suspect IN THE EARLY DAYS then CLEARED when they saw him ON VIDEO out of town drinking.
@amandanegrete1306
@amandanegrete1306 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment is far too reasonable.
@TheFKD24
@TheFKD24 2 жыл бұрын
@@hbic3 so who was the "down the hill" guy? It wasn't him. Who is the other sketch, the young kid in the selfies, and how does fat boy in jail figure into it? The guy who's property, is convenient. I doubt it. He just left the girls to be found? On his property? Smh. He doesn't look nothing like the down the hill dude.
@a1fromday117
@a1fromday117 2 жыл бұрын
Whether this Ron Logan guy did it or not his life is ruined just for being a suspect. I don’t know the details so I have no opinion on whether he’s guilty or innocent. But I believe that names of suspects shouldn’t b released to the public until an arrest is made.
@user_angelmum
@user_angelmum 2 жыл бұрын
Hasn't he passed away?
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
Then you don''t live in reality.
@grannyt2980
@grannyt2980 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he's dead so....
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
You have a good point. A lot of people’s lives have been ruined that way. They are ostracized by their town/city, employers, even family, sometimes. People should not be tried in the court of public opinion, so people can have entertainment and play vigilante or profiler.
@retiredhippie2524
@retiredhippie2524 2 жыл бұрын
@@grannyt2980 They say it was COVID. HA!
@rhondatrue761
@rhondatrue761 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping this case in the news! That’s what it is going to take!!!
@OhTylerB
@OhTylerB 2 жыл бұрын
The FBI agent who thought Ron Logan was probably responsible really needs to find a new career.
@noellegunning3301
@noellegunning3301 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The man in the video is much younger than Ron Logan. He would be unlikely to refer to the victims as "guys".
@losslessthoughts
@losslessthoughts 2 ай бұрын
​@@noellegunning3301 And shorter, no way BG is as tall as RL
@snail8926
@snail8926 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the crazies will start blaming Ron Logan again. It's not him folks. This was old stuff from the beginning.
@amandamorrow4009
@amandamorrow4009 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@skybluemoon.
@skybluemoon. 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly it's not him and this is not new
@bryanolier1538
@bryanolier1538 2 жыл бұрын
One jackets he was wearing was green thought bridge guys was blue
@cooleenw
@cooleenw 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and Steven Avery is innocent too?
@jupitergrls
@jupitergrls 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe this document was "leaked". It was probably released intentionally to see if any additional info is revealed regarding the possibility of Mr. Logan's involvement. Mr. Logan is now deceased and there was never any hard evidence tying him to this case. All LE can hope for that would implicate him as the murderer would be if he confessed to someone.
@jw9366
@jw9366 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely leaked on purpose. They want to see if anyone jumps at all. I think they have nothing tying anyone to the crime scene
@unropednope4644
@unropednope4644 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't count hard evidence an an exact match to the voice and physical description or the fact that he made up an alibi for the murders before they happened then I don't know what hard evidence is. They had enough to hold and interrogate him till he cracked.
@jupitergrls
@jupitergrls 2 жыл бұрын
@@unropednope4644 They would have needed (and wanted) DNA evidence if there was not a confession. There was never one (a confession) he made tying him to the murders.
@brittanysiebenhaar3627
@brittanysiebenhaar3627 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is that they have fibers and hairs how hasn't it been tested against Logan? Ugh I don't understand probably a legal block of some sort.
@jupitergrls
@jupitergrls 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittanysiebenhaar3627 I am going to assume at this juncture that those hairs and fibers were tested and not a match for Mr. Logan.
@noelle8691
@noelle8691 2 жыл бұрын
FBI agents that are experienced do not release confidential documents.
@user-zc4wp4xu1u
@user-zc4wp4xu1u 2 жыл бұрын
Man this case is taking a very long time to solve! Sending love to everyone who loved Abby and Libby!! 🌹
@katherinecha3179
@katherinecha3179 2 жыл бұрын
They should leave it thei worlds "best medium" since they are soo good
@theresalee4844
@theresalee4844 Жыл бұрын
🌹 🌹 a rose for each girl.
@lc6636
@lc6636 2 жыл бұрын
They blamed the wrong man.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 8 ай бұрын
Men...we're on No.3 presently
@wisdomsleuth77777
@wisdomsleuth77777 2 ай бұрын
​@@williamrae9954don't forget ybg the person responsible for the murders and they were still talking about it at the last presser yet here we are the only guy with the cleanest record in town I guess?
@losslessthoughts
@losslessthoughts 2 ай бұрын
​@@wisdomsleuth77777 Anyone who thinks KK is not involved is crazy. He was AS, he talked to them, he knew they were going to be there, ybg, the man in black, never forget!
@wisdomsleuth77777
@wisdomsleuth77777 2 ай бұрын
@@losslessthoughts wasn't it his cousin that he didn't really want to talk about was that Trexler you know the one who wound up in the very first interview at the bridge before they even knew the girls were going to be found there. And then I heard what's his name ran out the back door agent Abbott was the one who searched the house I think with Ramsey as well the one who no longer works for the Bureau he wound up with the highly intoxicated DUI possibly more than alcohol
@losslessthoughts
@losslessthoughts 2 ай бұрын
@@wisdomsleuth77777 His cousin SUS too. KK is a pathological liar so no one can believe anything he says. I find it impossible to believe that he wasn't involved somehow. If there were multiple people using the AS account they would have been able to track IPs and what not to figure out who I would think. Or at least where and go from there. I don't think we will ever know what really happened, hopefully the trial reveals all. I want to know what evidence they found at RA house, the amount of time between the raid and arrest is about right for labs. Maybe they found DNA or even the missing pieces of clothing. That is what it would take for me to believe it was him...
@carlfrank6698
@carlfrank6698 2 жыл бұрын
This killer was smart enough to avoid police, maintain some form of control over these two girls,kill them both, then stage the crime scene, take souvenirs, took murder weapon with him,left little trace of himself, but didn’t realize that he left a video of himself behind which didn’t help to catch him. Makes me wonder if the killer is older and unfamiliar with what phones can do.
@macnchessplz
@macnchessplz 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought that too. Younger ppl would have thought to look for a phone first thing, IMO.Even mid aged ppl would have thought to look for phones. It’s said the phone was a few ft away though but still , it stands out.
@carlfrank6698
@carlfrank6698 2 жыл бұрын
@@macnchessplz the more I think about the phone seems it was deliberately left behind. Since the police can ping the location of the phone providing there’s battery life it’s possible the killer left it to make sure the victims were found. Someone who staged a crime scene wants it seen.
@LB-lt3pz
@LB-lt3pz 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlfrank6698 yep especially if you planted false dna there. A serial killer who’s been doing this a long time will want the false dna found asap.
@Melissa_anne_2024
@Melissa_anne_2024 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point , I didn’t think of that
@claudiasimpson4386
@claudiasimpson4386 2 жыл бұрын
This Dude lived free for 5 years, so many things in this case points to him !!!.
@justinshades6652
@justinshades6652 2 жыл бұрын
The police know who did it. Other deaths too
@iti7201
@iti7201 2 жыл бұрын
Of course they do...
@debiliard3135
@debiliard3135 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!!!! Took 5 more years to blame an d man. You should be ashamed of yourself for a story
@BaileyDanyel
@BaileyDanyel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the guy saying he was Anthony Shots and to meet him back there hasn't gotten charged. HE told them to meet him back there then they end up dead. He IS a pervert for young girls.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
Probably cause the guy pretending to be him had credit cards, cell phones and other digital signatures that placed him elsewhere. Unfortunately for Ron Logan, those signatures placed him AT THE CRIME SCENE.
@showerpwner
@showerpwner 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrethegiant2877 the account was shared between kegan and his dad. The dad looks most like the Delphi sketches. Even if one had signatures elsewhere it could be the other. Or one covered for the other. They need to figure out how those two are related to Logan. If they are all in on it or they knew they could pin it on him.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
@@showerpwner This isn’t a grand conspiracy involving multiple people, there’s zero evidence of that. He did it on his own, these dudes are disgusting but they had nothing to do with it.
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
When did he tell the girls to meet him there? I imagine there would have been an arrest, if they found that.
@clarerango3437
@clarerango3437 2 жыл бұрын
On Vinny Politans show tonight it said that Kline dude is in jail or was arrested.
@mom2jeremy
@mom2jeremy 2 жыл бұрын
That information in the search warrant isn't all that truthful. They just put stuff in it, so they could get a probable cause to search his stuff
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
M'kay Polly. You sound like you sniff glue.
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
I would hope bodies on the property would be enough, but I guess not.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I hope people understand that the language used to acquire a search warrant must by definition be accusatory.
@darntootin2006
@darntootin2006 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you commit a double murder and leave the bodies to be discovered on your own property? That makes no sense. The person who did this no doubt was familiar with the area, and murdered these two girls when the opportunity presented itself.
@ricardomoseley
@ricardomoseley 2 жыл бұрын
He known what he was doing.
@wanefelicia8779
@wanefelicia8779 2 жыл бұрын
??? ...there are many cases where they have found bodies on the property of their murderers.
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 2 жыл бұрын
@universal maybe most of them are. There's a load of unsolved murders out there. Maybe most psychopathic killers r cleverer. How would we know. Being too dumb to catch them😃
@DS40764
@DS40764 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he didn't have time to remove them
@ChosenOne6666
@ChosenOne6666 2 жыл бұрын
He is innocent he gave free tours of the crime scene. The bloodhounds went the other way from his home.
@cheltenjones3215
@cheltenjones3215 2 жыл бұрын
This is unfortunately not going to be solved. Keeping the keystone cops in charge is the reason why. The system failed you Libby and Abby in the most embarrassing way possible.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
When/If they ever release all of the evidence in this case it will be so painfully obvious Ron Logan did it it will be laughable. I believe this is the reason the Delphi PD/Indiana State Police are stalling.
@mariegallagher1982
@mariegallagher1982 2 жыл бұрын
They probably put that old man in an early grave 😡
@VigoTheCarpathian83
@VigoTheCarpathian83 2 жыл бұрын
Ron logan passed away in January of this year
@wastedcentury1805
@wastedcentury1805 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, extremely sloppy to lead off the segment by matter of factly and wrongly saying he died in 2020
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 2 жыл бұрын
More stellar reporting.
@patriciaperry7579
@patriciaperry7579 2 жыл бұрын
Why no mention of reverse DNA testing? The mention of lots of blood must have gotten on the killer what about DNA in the girls? Plus over 45 seconds of the killer walking down the track but the public is only allowed to see a quick four seconds. Oh I know releasing more might give away the suspect and he'll leave town? LE holds too many details too close to the chest on all crimes. Let's just walk around till he hits again?
@Madcaps7615
@Madcaps7615 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he sure did. That this news channel got that wrong from the get, calls everything that follows into question.
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely wasn't Logan
@dalhousieDream
@dalhousieDream 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it wasn't him after all.
@coolchoicebro
@coolchoicebro 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine not being guilty of something and something like this looming over your head.
@coolchoicebro
@coolchoicebro 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that too! My mom's best friend came up missing and suspicious has loomed over her for her entire life. They went and dug up my grandma's entire property looking for her body. They were out there for weeks. I said mom you should probably go get an attorney they are digging up grandma's property. She said I DONT NEED A LAWYER SHE WAS MY BEST FRIEND I DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO HER! she said that in the middle of them digging up the property she was supposedly had been hidden on. Thats the day I knew my mom was 100 percent innocent. But that guys voice sounds like the the guys in the tape.
@Froggythegremlin
@Froggythegremlin 2 жыл бұрын
Give that agent a promotion and a medal. Another life ruined by fine criminal justice work.
@sharonmotteshead6490
@sharonmotteshead6490 2 жыл бұрын
It's so easy to blame a dead man because they cant found the real murderer
@crystaldawn9255
@crystaldawn9255 2 жыл бұрын
Who's purposely confusing the investigation? Who's in control and not letting important info to the public that could help? Who's stringing things along waiting on someone to pin this on?
@wisdomsleuth77777
@wisdomsleuth77777 2 ай бұрын
🤑
@danielwebster5748
@danielwebster5748 2 жыл бұрын
In addition both women said they believed the man walking on the bridge was Ron Logan
@wolfiexbb
@wolfiexbb 2 жыл бұрын
what women
@plicketyplunk
@plicketyplunk 2 жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for these two☹
@lindahoefakker3568
@lindahoefakker3568 2 жыл бұрын
Because the body's were found there don't mean hedid it I have dog shit in my yard every day but I don't have a dog
@patriotgirl4865
@patriotgirl4865 2 жыл бұрын
Well Ron, You can finally rest in peace. We've finally got the killer of Abby and Libby. 🙏
@bossup648
@bossup648 Жыл бұрын
Not so fast. There's more twists and turns to come.
@patriotgirl4865
@patriotgirl4865 Жыл бұрын
@@bossup648 I 'll be watching with you, Ryan. We all know that this has been an insane case.
@patriotgirl4865
@patriotgirl4865 Жыл бұрын
@@bossup648 That's right. Now it's looking like Kegan, Rickie and possibly Ron.
@bossup648
@bossup648 Жыл бұрын
@@patriotgirl4865 anything is possible but I think Ron Logan is innocent. He misled investigators because he didn't want to get in trouble for his drinking and violating terms of his previous arrest. He was obviously not a perfect man but he served in the military and went through hell the last few years of his life with this case.
@bossup648
@bossup648 Жыл бұрын
@@patriotgirl4865 I believe that more arrests will come. They pretty much told us that. It's why the probable cause details weren't released right away. I saw where a lawyer was saying the Richard Allen trial could get put off until October if his attorneys want the time. There's plenty of time for more people to be arrested and I think more will be.
@Nikki30288
@Nikki30288 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I was never part of the witch hunt.
@hlowrylong
@hlowrylong 2 жыл бұрын
There’s literally no new details. I heard this a month ago. Media is such a joke. I’m cranky.
@Anthony-tu7oz
@Anthony-tu7oz 2 жыл бұрын
Oooohh an insider!
@hlowrylong
@hlowrylong 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony-tu7oz I’m pissed! News made it seem like new info … this broke a month ago
@josebillyb.a.8128
@josebillyb.a.8128 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is kinda owed something , he passed away but man
@kimszabo6752
@kimszabo6752 2 жыл бұрын
That one flash of him walking right now’ it’s him walking in that video the girls took. Just a shame to loose any young life. Prayers for the families. 🙏
@sharon2419
@sharon2419 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought and his voice very soft and quiet, not raspy or thick and the way he say " down the hill guys" in a not so loud or scary as if to give them a false sense of security so they would cooperate.
@rosecolvin9343
@rosecolvin9343 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that walk immediately also.
@dreadfdntf2004
@dreadfdntf2004 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing also, his walk is the same as the man on the bridge
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharon2419 Some said he had a country accent in the interview and not in Libby’s video. To me, it’s too short to judge that. But my abusive ex used to act very soft-spoken and even told me he would affect a country accent, to be disarming. Then he’d yell at me in a low voice and hit me. So I wouldn’t put it past someone to change his voice, for the interviews. I don’t know if it’s Logan. The physical type and walk really made me jump. But you’d think if it was him, the cops would have got him. I just hope this is solved, someday. 😇 😇
@_Ricky__
@_Ricky__ 2 жыл бұрын
His clothes look the exact same as the ones in Libbys video as well
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 2 жыл бұрын
WORST law enforcement agency EVER!!
@sharonmarlowe9921
@sharonmarlowe9921 2 жыл бұрын
Logan did it
@Luna007
@Luna007 2 жыл бұрын
Doug Carter is useless. Dramatic and rehearsed so sick of him.
@paisley1134
@paisley1134 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Logan was 77 yrs old. Leave that man alone, they harassed that man to death.
@CutterDriftwood
@CutterDriftwood 2 жыл бұрын
I really like his opener, "Thanks for inviting us in"! Every show should start with that!
@BrandyinIndy
@BrandyinIndy 2 жыл бұрын
The man arrested is the creep who did this. Praying for Justice for Abby & Libby
@markallen4364
@markallen4364 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you're right. Because the first two weren't.
@BrandyinIndy
@BrandyinIndy 2 жыл бұрын
@@markallen4364 ISP has never arrested anyone for this. Yes there have been persons of interest but never an arrest so they must have a smoking gun as evidence.
@jakey5630
@jakey5630 2 жыл бұрын
Ronald Logan was 77 yrs old then , nothing like the latest photo
@dgilly8064
@dgilly8064 2 жыл бұрын
Just the way he layered his clothes(jackets)is absolutely on point to the way the man in the bridge video layered his too.
@valeriej291
@valeriej291 2 жыл бұрын
It also seems that the man walking the bridge is very sure of his steps. Exactly how a property owner would be of their own, run down bridge.
@sciencenotstigma9534
@sciencenotstigma9534 2 жыл бұрын
@@valeriej291 True. Some say an old man couldn’t walk the bridge that confidently, but if you had walked it your whole life?
@joelhoward8211
@joelhoward8211 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a lot of people layer their clothes like that around there hard to believe a 72 year old did it
@PlightOfAMan
@PlightOfAMan 2 жыл бұрын
Man you web sleuths are fucking stupid
@dgilly8064
@dgilly8064 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlightOfAMan you say after they name a suspect 5 yrs later. Goofy af
@sarahs5340
@sarahs5340 2 жыл бұрын
We literally have video of the man and no solid suspects or arrests. Incredibly frustrating and disappointing.
@Mitsurilove_84
@Mitsurilove_84 2 жыл бұрын
Um a cell phone trace doesn't give exact location but a round about area.
@terriebriant9321
@terriebriant9321 2 жыл бұрын
That's RL's voice, his walk, his style of clothing, and his stature. IT'S HIM!!! I can't unhear his voice or unsee his face as the man walking on the bridge. But what now?! He's dead! So Unbelievable!
@ewhite6705
@ewhite6705 2 жыл бұрын
No it’s not. It’s undoubtedly james chadwell. Guarantee you that. Hopefully it comes out soon. It’s not Ron Logan.
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think you are correct...it's him
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
@@ewhite6705 Why do you say that?
@rupertperiwinkle4477
@rupertperiwinkle4477 2 жыл бұрын
The pitch and tone don't sound the same at all.
@terriebriant9321
@terriebriant9321 2 жыл бұрын
@@rupertperiwinkle4477 he tried to change the pitch and tone of his voice when he was asked to say the words on the recording. He didn't know he would be asked to do that. So when you listen to him and what he says the whole time, and compare the pattern of dress/style of clothing, his demeanor -- the whole nine yards, oh yes ... it's absolutely him, Ron Logan!
@daren2154
@daren2154 2 жыл бұрын
Update I the people that thought this man did these murders feel like shit !
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@kennykeleher4128
@kennykeleher4128 2 жыл бұрын
My Friend Mike knew Ron Logan, it a'int him! Nobody from that Town thinks it's him either. This was established very early. You all thinking it was Ron, are grasping at straws
@profhortsunlover1536
@profhortsunlover1536 2 жыл бұрын
ismn't he dead?
@kennykeleher4128
@kennykeleher4128 Жыл бұрын
@@profhortsunlover1536 - Yes
@shawnbee8926
@shawnbee8926 2 жыл бұрын
It’s mind boggling that this hasn’t been dealt with.
@patriotgirl4865
@patriotgirl4865 2 жыл бұрын
I zoomed in on RL, right away. Guilty people have a tendency to give out more information, than is necessary to the interviewer. Nobody asked about going to the fish store or to account for that time. His body language was a dead ringer for me. Also, you cannot deny the body size and frame for the BG. Why would anyone just go over that dreary place Monon Bridge, and just sit and wait for two girls to kill? This guy was a very angry person about something related to that town or family. My speculation only.
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 2 жыл бұрын
Objection: HEARSAY (definitely nonexpert opinion). Objection: Speculation is CORRECT!
@timothyschneider5866
@timothyschneider5866 2 жыл бұрын
"Guilty people have a tendency to give out more information, [sic] than is necessary to the interviewer". Wow. What is that? Some eleventh grade "Psych 101" classroom logic? There's many reasons one might do that. It's not a "one size fits all". The "tells" that people have are as individual as they are. There's a bit more to profiling than the "this type of person tends to do this" checklist. Smh.
@Swnsasy
@Swnsasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothyschneider5866 As someone with degrees in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior, I second your comment..
@Swnsasy
@Swnsasy 2 жыл бұрын
I understand what you're saying about giving too much detail, some absolutely do that but also people who are nervous and are thinking in detail so they go through each step. It's more common in people that are nervous though than guilty...
@patriotgirl4865
@patriotgirl4865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Swnsasy You are right. Your point is true also.
@Emy53
@Emy53 2 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to be arrested, but why are they now focusing on a dead man that was in his 70's when this crime happened???
@commancheheart420
@commancheheart420 2 жыл бұрын
Because it has been five years and they still haven't solved the case despite a video with vocal evidence of the killer.
@ashleyvalentine2790
@ashleyvalentine2790 2 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Mr Logan 😢 stop with the false bs. An 80 year old man cannot out run 2 young athletic girls. Please!!!
@rogerstubenrouch7187
@rogerstubenrouch7187 2 жыл бұрын
if being drunk n wife beating makes one guilty half of america should be charged!
@stephendaedalus6192
@stephendaedalus6192 2 жыл бұрын
Police haven't charged Logan? He is dead, so...
@birdflipper
@birdflipper 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to find out if there is any connection between Logan and Allen.
@jimtaylor7670
@jimtaylor7670 2 жыл бұрын
If you have no experience in law enforcement or at very least have no experience in escaping law enforcement, you have no opinion about any crime..
@TheDennzio
@TheDennzio 2 жыл бұрын
We now know that the FBI was wrong, don't we.
@debbiedarrah6518
@debbiedarrah6518 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Logan was investigated and was at an auction and out buying fish that day. He has since passed away RIP.
@hbic3
@hbic3 2 жыл бұрын
WRONG! At no time did he or anyone state he was at an auction and his fish buying trip proved to be a lie.
@Hannah-201
@Hannah-201 2 жыл бұрын
@@hbic3 fbi found a receipt on the 13th at 5:21pm from the aquarium at his house
@wanefelicia8779
@wanefelicia8779 2 жыл бұрын
Not buying it
@KS-dx5ln
@KS-dx5ln 2 жыл бұрын
Seems so obvious there's a huge cover up.
@KS-dx5ln
@KS-dx5ln 2 жыл бұрын
@@FailedIndieArtist me? A weirdo? LOL. You're special....NOT
@Love-One-Another
@Love-One-Another 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! The guy in the cell phone picture/video looks just like Robert Logan. Build, clothing style, etc. How was he not number 1 suspect from the beginning?
@coffeefish
@coffeefish 2 жыл бұрын
He probably was. But the police need real evidence.
@Love-One-Another
@Love-One-Another 2 жыл бұрын
@@coffeefish Yes, I agree.
@MexicanTeTe
@MexicanTeTe 2 жыл бұрын
He was, but they ruled him out quickly because of his (false) alibi and no evidence found in his property. If you check the sex offender registry website half of the registered offenders in the local area look like they could be matches for the bridge guy sketches/video.
@Love-One-Another
@Love-One-Another 2 жыл бұрын
@@MexicanTeTe Oh my! Thanks for the info.
@haygurl3978
@haygurl3978 2 жыл бұрын
Ron, not Robert
@garrychalmers67
@garrychalmers67 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't him. Don't let the police take the easy way out by blaming a defenceless dead man.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
So even if it was him, they should pursue someone alive because that would be harder?? That's your logic?
@Options96
@Options96 2 жыл бұрын
Well he would know the area inside out and backwards, but what I don’t get is to do it in broad daylight, whoever it was.
@cosmicmariner6621
@cosmicmariner6621 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Logan was an alcoholic. Documented as flying into a rage over nothing. He took them specifically to that site b/c it was a teen party site litered with trash on his property. Like someone who drags a dog to poop and puts his nose in it to scold him. The girls just happened to be there during one of his drunken rages. He pulled a woman from a car by her hair -think about that.
@loriburnip
@loriburnip 2 жыл бұрын
That suggests it was a crime of opportunity. That someone saw the girls alone, vulnerable & couldn't resist the temptation. What shocks me is there has been no mention of this being one in a string of assaults or murders. You would expect escalation to get to this point. Someone doesn't just go from zero to brutally killing 2 girls overnight. Surely there's some other victims out there, either living survivors or other murders. This was big for a first time offense. Not saying that it's impossible but it would be odd.
@cosmicmariner6621
@cosmicmariner6621 2 жыл бұрын
@@loriburnip This is the exact reasoning of the State Police. However, Terrence Miller and Timothy Bass both committed a horrible rape and murder. Then got married raised daughters and never committed any crime ever again. These men committed one murder -not serial killers. Both just happened to come across their victim, did it and never did it again -scary.
@candicealicia6901
@candicealicia6901 2 жыл бұрын
Its sad this man didn't live long enough to see the monster arrested, who most likely did this unspeakable crime. I just had a feeling this old man didn't kill those 2 girls.. rip sir, the girls will have justice after all. 🙏
@solucky70
@solucky70 2 жыл бұрын
So they still have nothing? What a non-story!
@sandhanitizer15
@sandhanitizer15 2 жыл бұрын
I just had a stroke trying to read the title to this video
@justinshades6652
@justinshades6652 2 жыл бұрын
I think they're covering for the last mayor
@mightyea
@mightyea 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@colleengoosman3581
@colleengoosman3581 2 жыл бұрын
He was too old to do this .someone out there in that community did this.
@wisdomseeker3362
@wisdomseeker3362 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever watch the Golden State Killer trial where he looked old, feeble , on deaths door and being pushed into court in a wheelchair❓ Then cameras in prison showed him climbing on table in his cell to hang his clothes on a makeshift clothes line near the ceiling and also showed him climbing on his top bunk with ease. Lastly, showed him doing some exercises. The evil ones are crafty ones❗
@clover5668
@clover5668 2 жыл бұрын
Old men do horrible things ALL the time. Remember Cherish Periwinkle? I think that is her name. A old guy killed her.. :(
@dawncampbell4872
@dawncampbell4872 2 жыл бұрын
Why ,would ron put them on his own property ,he was innocent. The Agent just wanna blame a dead innocent person .
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
What would you do if you iced out two girls and there were search parties bearing down on your place in less than 20 hours? Would you risk loading them into your truck, which you aren't allowed to legally drive and drive off to bury them elsewhere? Or would you dig shallow graves on your own land? Seriously, what would you do if you were Ron Logan and kidnapped those girls?
@PrivateerCrew
@PrivateerCrew 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Logans Family Needs to Sue Everyone
@Kenneth-nVA
@Kenneth-nVA 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, there’s way too much movement, for this to be the work of one man. Logan’s house and commonality with the terrain, has always been in play. If you could connect the social media information and the Klines with Logan, then you’d have something.
@cosmicmariner6621
@cosmicmariner6621 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Putin and the Russians -that's what would convince me!
@kate4biglittlevoices
@kate4biglittlevoices 2 жыл бұрын
There were 2 men
@brownskinlou2024
@brownskinlou2024 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@asalindstrom6652
@asalindstrom6652 2 жыл бұрын
All you need os a gun.
@terracitahillis1215
@terracitahillis1215 2 жыл бұрын
Been saying this for 5 years.....
@jenniferbell9092
@jenniferbell9092 2 жыл бұрын
My question is can one old man hold two teens or did he have help?
@JeriScarborough
@JeriScarborough 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it seems this case may never be solved. It happens. It's basically a "Jon Benet" at this point. And, if Logan did it, same scenario..it's very unfortunate for the justice for the girls and their parents💔
@jerrybest1
@jerrybest1 2 жыл бұрын
Wheres the kids cell phones at
@teresaharvey716
@teresaharvey716 2 жыл бұрын
Cover up.
@JeriScarborough
@JeriScarborough 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrybest1 the police have those, or at least Libby's since they found it and were able to get the footage. Who knows what else is on that phone that they haven't released though?
@JeriScarborough
@JeriScarborough 2 жыл бұрын
@@teresaharvey716 after 5 years (I think it's been 5)...they still haven't released a lot of details. I guess because it's still an on-going investigation, but keeping the public in the dark when a case has gone this cold...you wouldn't think they would release a little more than they have. I scratch my head that this case wasn't solved back then. Someone has to recognize that guy on the bridge and recognize his voice...someone has to know who that person is. The fact her cell phone was left for the police to find tells me there is a lot more video of him on the phone because I feel she would've continued to film. And he obviously didn't know she was capturing him onto video or else he would have taken that phone and disposed of it. That tells me, it could have been an older man not familiar or interested in technology. Anyone who uses a computer or cell phone on a regular basis would have taken their phones to destroy evidence.
@user-bg6qg4rh1b
@user-bg6qg4rh1b 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeriScarborough I was thinking that too like why leave her cellphone or not even break it? Unless she/he heard someone and got spooked? Idk bc then now they say they think the bodies were staged. This case is just smh a mess and a cold one too I think
@akaRadar
@akaRadar 2 жыл бұрын
i can’t believe they can’t even get the DOD for RL right! RL just died this year! SMH!
@crownviclx2000
@crownviclx2000 2 жыл бұрын
Well here we go. Trying to pin it on a dead guy because they have absolutely nothing else. Smh. They're trying to wipe their hands clean of this....
@mightyea
@mightyea 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This town knows who did it..
@jkutnink87
@jkutnink87 Жыл бұрын
Logan was ruled out when there was video of him drinking at a local pizza place. He was on probation because he had a DUI and thus the reason why he asked his family to give an aliby was so he wouldn't go to jail for violating his probation. This is why Logan went back to jail. Logan did not have a hand in this.
@Kimberly-Fredrick
@Kimberly-Fredrick 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, straight truth. I have never seen this man before & as soon as I saw him on this video I recognized him as the bridge guy. It was so obvious to me that I can't believe he was never looked at harder. Just wow. If it was him there will be no real justice since he died an innocent man. I'm not saying he's guilty. I'm saying every cell I my body screamed bridge guy when I first laid eyes on him.
@Great_Lakes_Discus
@Great_Lakes_Discus 2 жыл бұрын
Well your wrong
@Great_Lakes_Discus
@Great_Lakes_Discus 2 жыл бұрын
@@davehugstrees he didn’t kill anybody fuck off. Blaming random people
@snail8926
@snail8926 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Logan was almost 80 yrs old. Ron has grey hair not reddish brown. Ron was like 6 ft tall with a big belly. Plus Ron was at Pizza king eating pizza and drinking beer. He only wanted an aliby for that time he was out because he wasn't supposed to be driving or drinking as he was on probation. Nothing points to it ever being Ron Logan. He was just the unlucky one that day whom had 2 murder victims on his property down by the creek. You don't have one piece of evidence to blame this deceased man. 👍
@Kimberly-Fredrick
@Kimberly-Fredrick 2 жыл бұрын
@@snail8926 I never claimed I had a shred of evidence. Re- read my comment.
@Great_Lakes_Discus
@Great_Lakes_Discus 2 жыл бұрын
@@snail8926 exactly people are trash and snakes who will take an innocent man down for no reason
@irenehunt1869
@irenehunt1869 2 жыл бұрын
They just arrested a completely different guy.
@darlenemestas5839
@darlenemestas5839 2 жыл бұрын
Did the police ever obtain records from the girls social media's, emails, ect. ?
@carlaforth7707
@carlaforth7707 2 жыл бұрын
RL lied because he was on probation. He was out drinking on the day in quisition and was trying to not get busted. He had Nothing to do with the crime. These people need to give it up.
@Emy53
@Emy53 2 жыл бұрын
This angers me because it was known early on that the bodies were staged there, but yet this Ronald Logan was never issued a warrant to search his home. He had a lot of time to destroy evidence, and now he's dead. He was breaking the law because of his license and his driving. He could have tried to cover up the fact that he drove, so asked his cousin to say he drove him somewhere. Five years is a long time and if Logan is quilty, good luck finding evidence 5 years later. Hope they find something, otherwise L.E. still have nothing.
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
Delphi Police truly botched this case beyond recognition
@Lia2222
@Lia2222 2 жыл бұрын
Huh? LE definitely searched his home with a warrant.
@dheerajraj5367
@dheerajraj5367 2 жыл бұрын
It's no secret that in these old rural towns live by mountain rules. Most are either accomplices of these crimes or will look the other way as they have their own equal misdeeds to deal with.
@carolturner1976
@carolturner1976 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t jump to conclusions-WTHR should try to do the same. Smearing Logan in your reporting then try to walk it back a little. Shameful.
@andrethegiant2877
@andrethegiant2877 2 жыл бұрын
Walk WHAT back? He did it.
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrethegiant2877 🤡
@cb24203
@cb24203 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Logan doing his best Stephen McDaniel impression.
@Westindiangyal1111
@Westindiangyal1111 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like these two girls were best friends. It is very sad what happened to them.
@ESBEAUTII
@ESBEAUTII 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the odds of you getting murdered with your best friend 😢 ours parents always taught us to stick together, and that’s just what they did and got murdered by a sicko
@G-ITZJYO
@G-ITZJYO 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was Ronald Logan I mean his property consistent builds and voice same type of clothing I mean couldn’t they indicate the same clothing hat jeans jacket etc may never be solved because in my opinion the killer died everything pointed to that guy just strange
@destrybroderick9736
@destrybroderick9736 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of the arm chair detectives in this comment section that "knew" Ron Logan was guilty.
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