Powerful PC Handheld with the Nintendo Switch treatment [Lenovo Legion Go]

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[@MiniBeas]

Dell must be shooting themselves in the foot right now for not going forward with that prototype handheld a couple of years back...

[@lawrencelord9777]

Oh shit I forgot about that. They never released it and every other company made one 💀

[@the3000s]

Don't matter they'd goof it somehow whether it be too expensive or expensive and a piece of trash

[@TheRIkkyP]

Dell were probably very smart as is just as bad being too early as it is being too late. However we are far from it being too late right now.

[@TokaSFC]

They would have fucked it up, Asus and Lenovo are just as good as they are because Valve showed how to do it first

[@MrDiMaggio5]

Wouldn't be shocked to see Dell/Alienware enter the arena at CES

[@ceez3317]

Crazy he likes it the least out of the others, I own all 3 and like the go the most because of the screen size (maybe im just old) and the versatility of just carrying the screen as a tablet plus its the most powerful of the 3

[@Teremei]

I find I disagree with wulff den about almost everything. I remember him complaining about some android handheld being hard to set up, turned out he missed a completely obvious feature and that's why he was having a hard time.

[@bipbop3121]

I don't think it's crazy. They each have their pros and cons and it will come down to different priorities. My priorities, coolest (Steam Deck OLED vs Ally), handheld ergonomics (Ayn Odin 2 > Steam Deck OLED > LCD ), repairability (Steam Deck), software (SD) , Support (Steam Deck), VRR (Ally), landscape (Ally), battery life (??? Steam Deck OLED?), color gamut (Steam Deck OLED?), Storage (draw) . SD Card (Steam Deck wins, this is my Ally deal breaker), Audio (Steam Deck OLED > Ally, Steam Deck), community (Steam Deck) There things I like about GPD Win 4 or mini that none of these have, but they deal break cooling, ergo and risk. I don't think you'd call me crazy for this reasoning, just like I'm not calling you crazy for the Go doing it for you.

[@user-lp5wb2rb3v]

Im really curious what you believe to be the ultimate form factor. Lets assume this year AMD releases say 6 zen 5c cores + 6700xt performance in a 3-7W apu, and total system power is MAX 15W when docked, and the APU has good idle/ sleep low consumption. What would be the ideal form? Clamshell with controllers at the top? candybar? or slide or something else

[@Ardonas287]

RE: the mouse function, it IS shaped like a real mouse, or at least you hold it like you would hold an ergonomic upright mouse. I can understand wanting it to lie flat if those are the mice you're used to, but if you're struggling with hand strain, an upright mouse is a dream, and I'm glad that Lenovo chose to make this mouse ergonomic in that way.

[@melanino]

I was just about to say, having the mouse being ergonomic that way, is like 50% why i bought it🤣

[@kysierkevin]

it's called vertical mouse

[@hefoxed]

The detachable controllers like in switch (particular if add grips) and this maybe (looks a bit too big?) are also good in this regard. Sorta like a split keyboard.

[@10litu]

Vertical must be weird for fingertip or claw type of users though. I for one would struggle moving mouse accurately with my whole arm instead of just wrist/fingers only - whereas your typical mouse is usually fine for everyone.

[@abomala1607]

I dont have vertical mouse but i wish i had one. I have pain on the wrist

[@CandysChannel]

The screen IS the main reason why I will buy it! My aging eyes cannot deal with just a 7 inch screen. I need to watch Netflix/Hulu/movies, Kindle book reading, Google play PC/Bluestacks, web surfing and anything I would do on a tablet. Gaming is only 50% of what I would use it for. I could care less about the fan sound because I’m 57 and don’t have the 20 something ears. The FPS mode looks amazing!! I can’t wait to buy it hopefully by January

[@BraxtonKovary]

PC Handhelds are on a roll right now... And they ain't stopping!!

[@Saljen]

The fact that this doesn't have a keyboard attachment and a dock is astounding. Bag to hold all the attachments, versatility is really this thing's strong suit.

[@coreychildress156]

Shouldn't be hard for a third party to make a dock

[@eggbag4182]

Oh it’s definitely gonna happen

[@Chris-kv4vl]

A keyboard you attach will have to be heavy if you want to use it without kickstanding the heavy main body. I plan to just bluetooth connect to it with a compact BT keyboard and have the kickstand out with no controllers attached for productivity.

[@Saljen]

@@Chris-kv4vl The whole point would be to use the kickstand. Like a Surface. No need to add an unnecessary second hinge.

[@ThePeacePlant]

You can use a blu-tooth set up

[@RetroHellspawn]

One thing I think a lot of people get wrong about the Steam Deck (and by extension the Steam Controller) and its trackpads is that people seem to think that the trackpad is intended to be used just by itself for mouse/joystick emulation. Valve very intentionally included a gyro sensor and a ridiculously deep configurator so you could combine the two. Try-hards will say "flick-stick or death" with gyro always on, but I like to be more relaxed when I'm gaming, so I just have gyro set to activate when I touch the trackpad. It's the best of both worlds, like Lord Gaben himself took a standard twin-stick controller, a keyboard, and a mouse, fused them together, and made the Steam Controller. The software is where it's at, and the community layouts are usually pretty solid (with some tweaking to fit personal preference.) All I'm gonna say, Valve *really* should have included some tutorials for configuration that give examples of how to use it instead of relying on the community to act like Jehova's Witnesses. The irony is not lost on me that I am doing it right now because Valve still hasn't done that very simple act of educating their users on their products. 😂 It's been over a decade since the Steam Controller launched with the controller configurator API, and it's still all community based for the most part. Dualsense, Dualshock 3-4, and Switch controller users all would also benefit from such educational materials, as you can set buttons to be gyro activation. There's layers and layers more, but I'll leave the rest of that for KZbin videos that already exist (a few of which I made myself, way back when the Steam Controller was still fairly new.)

[@xMRxLAMAx]

A lot of people still don’t care and only want to use xinput

[@ThompYT]

@@xMRxLAMAx wrong terminology, and a lot of people DO care

[@airthrowDBT]

I get mad as a Sega fan, for how excited people get for hall effect sticks now when they were doing amazing Hall Effect sticks in the mid 90s 😂

[@Jaroartx]

SEGA FOREVER 💙

[@brandon_nope]

I love how the OLED Steam Deck was announced two hours after this video came out

[@doggymustach4749]

Which do u think would be the better purchase

[@MafiosoDon21]

The video you watching is a better purchase

[@THEAVERAGEGAMER13]

depends what you wanna do with it and what games you play@@doggymustach4749

[@paavopalantera9583]

As you are the guy who has convinced me to buy 3 8bitdo controllers by (rightfully) praising the D-pads those controllers have, I would have really loved to hear a bit more about how the D-pads feel and how the comfort of using it compares to the other two PC handhelds referenced.

[@lo-filogic]

From what I heard from other reviewers, steam deck's D-pad is the only decent one.

[@paavopalantera9583]

@@lo-filogic thank you!

[@B_Machine]

If you haven't already check the channel out, Retro Game Corps puts emphasis on the Dpad in his reviews.

[@officerminiwheats]

It's not the best but not the worst. Probably a downgrade from 8bitdo like most handhelds

[@enriquecarvajal4588]

The legions d pad ( I own it) very stiff. The ally was mushy. ( I returned it) steam deck way way better

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[@sijonda]

2 reasons I bought my Steam Deck. I needed an additional computer I can bring with me and will be ready to use in the back of my truck (semi truck driver) so first I wanted to support the company that kicked this up which you could argue was Nintendo but Valve is the company that really kicked the first field goal. And second the price to performance is the best in my opinion. Seeing competitors coming up like this I will continue to see as a good thing because it's going to bring new ideas and push competition down the road.

[@thundergato84]

I was debating between the Go, and Steam Deck OLED. I'm going for the Steam Deck. The optimization is there.

[@ThompYT]

@@thundergato84 You definitely made the right choice but I don't see the "optimization"

[@theunknown7441]

​@@ThompYTcoping with his purchase.

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

This thing feels like those gaming laptops with 2 GPUs and SSDs in raid, but last about 1h gaming. I like that theres differences between companines and they are both competetively priced for a higer end product. We'll see how the software support is for Lenovo.

[@anjabenn]

I love my Legion Go. Thunderbolt 3 means egpu support. So, I'll dock it to my TV with an RTX 3080 hooked up through a Razer Core X. So, 1440/4k docked, and then 1200/1600p in handheld. Meets all my gaming needs!

[@yo.adrian]

When I showed my family and friends my Steam Deck, they thought I got a fifth Nintendo Switch. If I get the Lenovo Legion Go, they'll be even more confused because of the detachable controller. Well, they need to learn to differentiate products because I'm getting one.

[@hibikiholmes2867]

I do agree with what you said about diminishing returns in regards to having such a high resolution screen on a handheld. Lenovo could have just went with the same resolution and refresh rate as the Steam Deck and cut the price down because I know for sure the Legion could not run most modern AAA games well above 70 FPS at low settings. Some of these companies aiming to get into the handheld gaming scene tend to focus on the wrong things when it comes to making one. We need more TDP, resolution and fan speed options through more optimized software on top of better design of the main body for better air flow. In my opinion, those should take priority when it comes to coming up with a Windows handheld.

[@bipbop3121]

Underrated

[@user-lp5wb2rb3v]

We need SIGNIFICANTLY lower TDP, 15W is too much for a handheld with a 50whr battery, and thats only the cpu power draw. Its insane people are willing to pay so much for such an alpha product

[@army103]

I'm still quite content with the Retroid Pocket 3+ I got earlier this year, but in another year or two I suspect I'll be on the market for a Steamdeck-level PC handheld. It's pretty awesome seeing how quickly advancements being made in that arena in the meantime, though - I can't wait to see what's available when I'm ready to start shopping!

[@r3toun]

Exactly, Valve getting this thing goingt is such a good thing for consumers.

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

Yeah. If you start saving up to $400-$5 600 for one, by the time you're ready you'll have some nice price competitive options.

[@Anthonyelmio2]

That's what I did with the Retroid Pocket 2. I got it years ago and then got the steam deck after and haven't used my RP2 since. Since Steam Deck can run retro games too and easier thanks to Emu Deck ❤ and more consoles like the Switch Ps3 and OG Xbox and 360 kinda

[@GamerLikeDad]

Bob does such fantastic impression/review videos! I highly enjoyed this overview of the Legion! My question for everyone is…If you don’t have a handheld device like this yet, which one are you thinking of getting of the 3, especially now that the OLED Steam Deck is here?

[@bipbop3121]

OLED Steam Deck tops my list. They addressed most things and still have the controls, software, support, marketshare, value crowns. GPD Win 4 or mini really interest me, but I'm not currently in a position to gamble with dealing with their China support and cooling is also a huge priority for the environment I live in. Them being smaller really appeals to me, but in spite of my smaller hands, they're not as ergonomic, according to reviews. I have small hands and want to use Legion Go in ways reviewers say it's too heavy for. It's special feature, involves laptop table top territory and I have a 1660 Ti laptop and mouse. Weirdly, the Go would be more compelling if it included a surface like keyboard, active stylus, but not at an increased price or not too increased. I understand why the audio isn't as good on Go, but it definitely hurts my interest. Ever since I've had a phone with great speakers, I realize I use my phone speakers more than I use IEMs or my ANC overears, now. I really thought my situation meant more headphone use, but while I need it sometimes it's not a majority. I enjoy not using headphones most. Landscape & VRR on the Ally are very tasty features. I really wish the Steam Deck had landscape & VRR. The SD card issue, is a deal breaker for me. Asus's support track record vs Valve, doesn't help either. I say this as someone who often ends up buying Asus, after research. It's not a clamshell, so a case would have been nice. Asus did Asus things and cheaped on the Wi-Fi, like usual, I think? Although, unlike their laptops, you can't just upgrade the wifi card for $20-30, I think.

[@rednalewC]

Oled steamdeck or ally, haven't decided how important Xbox gamepass is yet.

[@angie20de06]

That's why i Like the Lenovo Legion Go form factor: the tablet mode. I'd never buy a handheld pc just for gaming, but I like the idea of having a handheld to play pc games. However, with the legion go, you can use the tablet only, with a really thin keyboard and mouse to go to class or to the cafe, just like you'd use an android tablet, but this time you have windows, so you can use software like pc version of microsoft office or even cad software (if it serves for anything in a less than 15" screen). For me something like the legion go offers the convenience of tablets and windows, with just a bit of extra clumkiness - i'd rather buy this to a more expensive ipad or samsung tablet any day of the week; but then i think how much more efficient would be to just bring my laptop around anyways.... I'm still deciding whether or not to go for these devices, but the LEnovo Legion Go is the closest from what I'd like to get, handheld PC related. Thanks for the video, Wulff, seems like nobody is focusing in the tablet mode for anything other than gaming, and you at least mentioned it.

[@ammonha]

Idk, I dug up one of my older 8.9 inch tablets for comparison / getting an idea on how it'd look and I wouldn't really want to use that with a keyboard and mouse. Same thing goes for my 12.9 inch Ipad, writing with a pen on it is fine, hunching over to get closer to the small display to use desktop applications not so much. Holding these "small" displays right up to your face works just fine, putting them on a desk and moving further away however... It's like 2 people trying to play a switch in tablet mode, neither can really see anything. You can most certainly do it, but why would you. With a case it's going to be about as clunky as a laptop, just in a different dimensions.

[@ponodude101]

I definitely agree with diminishing returns on resolution. While 720p of the switch and 800p of the steam deck is definitely noticeable even for the size, I think the 1080p of the ally is the sweet spot. 720 will definitely be better if you're aiming for performance since it's not that much worse than 1080 on handhelds, but there's definitely that point past 1080 where it starts to not really matter for most people. The one and only exception would be something like the pimax portal which is trying to do VR so the 4k resolution on the handheld is kinda necessary with it being so close to your face.

[@acwbit2368]

These handhelds also need 32gb of ram

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

1600 integer scales 800p. 800p games would look better on this screen than on the Ally's

[@fresco_dinero5155]

@@mechanicalmonk2020it’s not the case tho. Many people are saying 800p looks blurry. Filterless said that 720p on the ally looks better than 800p on the go

[@oo--7714]

Obviously the screen is bigger It will look blurry.

[@bipbop3121]

​@@fresco_dinero5155the integer scaling is something they supposedly can fix in the software, though. They just haven't yet.

[@KneeCutter]

I wish gaming would make the switch to arm processing and had more games optimized for that. Trying to cram down pc hardware into handhelds like this, whilst cool as heck, could be way more efficient. That's my take on handhelds.

[@w21aaaaa]

Nintendo really made the right choice partnering with Nvidia and getting their ARM SoCs, plus now they're at the forefront of upscaling tech with DLSS which would be a perfect fit for the Switch 2.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

ARM isn't all that. It's slightly better overall on efficiency. The big difference is the little big design. X86 is getting there on that. You can make an ARM handheld of course and put games through one or two levels of translation but it's not give give the benefits you're after. The switch works because people are targeting ARM for their software. No one's gonna do that for PC

[@TheMattMercy]

Microsoft has spent an absurd amount of money trying to make Windows on ARM more viable* Supposedly they're close but we'll see 🤷🏻‍♀️ * = Edited

[@itsquiwi8780]

​@@TheMattMercywindows been running for years wym? Arm will never beat x86 in performance and that's why the switch has not had a new one in years because arm is not meant for super how performance like x86

[@TheMattMercy]

@@itsquiwi8780 Just repeating something I heard on WAN; but I think that's that they meant, getting it to acceptable performance EDIT: Looked it up & they were talking about 64-bit x86 emulation support on windows ARM & it was 3 years ago; I'm guessing it was mentioned again recently about improving efficiency & performance.

[@rrteppo]

Ok, I saw joystick in one hand and Mouse stick in the other and I was sold on the device. I have been wanting to play games like that for an unreasonable amount of time.

[@arthurdurham]

I was there for the GPD Win, which is arguably the first true gaming umpc, and the community would always talk about how great it'll be once big companies started doing this. And now it's happening. Not only are there more options and reducing price with competition, but it also makes game devs consider optimization for these systems. I still stick with the Chinese companies bc I can handle the cost and they still are including functions or specs I prefer (like even allowing higher tdp levels). But lots of good options now for people.

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

And GPD still makes some great devices. I've never had one, but their design is pretty nifty.

[@arthurdurham]

@@Fernando-ek8jp Yah the new win mini looks awesome

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

@@arthurdurham the wind minis are great, but my favorite, just looks wise, is the Win 4. Straight up Vita ripoff and I don't care

[@arthurdurham]

@@Fernando-ek8jp It is cool, I've used one

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

@@Fernando-ek8jpI liked the Chinese handhelds but one thing that was always terrible, if there is a problem with the device, good luck getting it fixed quickly/if at all. My GPD Win 3 was great, loved the size and formfactor, but the keyboard doesn’t turn on until 5 minutes after you slide the screen up. It was really irritating, and with the Deck and these other companies coming out with handhelds that make repair not as much of a headache, and in Valves case you can order replacement parts. GPD couldn’t help me with my issue, so at the end of the day I had a broken out of the box system and could do nothing about it.

[@zDToddy]

Perfect "portable handheld" for those who don't ever leave their house and only play at their desks

[@Dx-so7jm]

I have never in my life seen anyone whip out a gaming device on a bus or anywhere in public , on planes I have but folks mostly use phones to pass the commute time I think these handhelds are being used more in people's homes than outside

[@zDToddy]

@@Dx-so7jm how about Gameboys and DS's, PSPs or Vitas? I don't think we are gonna see handheld PCs in the wild but that is a failure of their design, we are still not at the point when people feel as comfortable with those as they do with Nintendo portable consoles

[@Dx-so7jm]

@@zDToddy you're not wrong , I don't travel public as much as most but even DSs and Vitas I usually on see small kids playing , these PCs are to big and expensive for small kids , seems more like adult toys

[@albyx]

For a handheld, I think the best experience you can get is at 720p. I already thought 1080p was pushing it. By leaving a device at 720p, you can have a longer battery life and better performance in general because the graphics aren’t pushing extra pixels. When plugged in, sure, update the experience to 1080p, heck even 1440p if the handheld can handle it. But ultimately, there’s no need for more than 1080p.

[@OkoliChimobi]

You don’t know nothing

[@eli_thefilmmaker]

Facts

[@Shadowx157]

​@@OkoliChimobitheres no point, how are you fitting more pixels in such a tiny screen?

[@LukeZala]

Look at your phone, do you still use 720p in 2023? If yes, 720p is enough for you.

[@albyx]

@@LukeZala you make it sound like I have a choice lol. 720p for gaming isn't the same as 720p for a user interface that serves as the front of phone design. You literally don't know what you're talking about lol

[@jeffniezgoda4720]

3:59 Bob I love you, but you compared the plastic to your aftermarket steam deck shell

[@matthewshannon9]

I travel for work. I love using this thing with the kickstand and controllers detached on the plane. I was just on a 5 hour flight playing Starfield at 60 fps while plugged in. I am also a work from home parent and don't have a lot of interest in sitting at my work space to play PC games at night. The legion go gives me so much flexibility. It's almost as powerful as my 3060 laptop in all honesty. I can get more fps because I can run games at 800p and they look as good or better on the small screen as 1440p. The Steam deck was amazing but struggled with so many newer games like Starfield. This is the perfect compromise in my opinion. Gamepass is also awesome to have on the go.

[@theunknown7441]

Same bud

[@bjorngerlach7829]

This might actually be a handheld where I can make out what’s happening on screen

[@TaeKwonMoe]

I want a keyboard cover for this thing. Hope someone makes that. Just make it the width of the screen so that it protects and is like a really small laptop.

[@Riptor_WL]

And the ventilation?

[@TaeKwonMoe]

@@Riptor_WL Holes? I mean design it so that it works with it obviously.

[@OptimusProvost]

I love starting my Thursdays with a Wulff Den video!

[@shawnwade302]

The Lenovo legion go looks like it will be my first handheld pc. Although I'm also still considering the steam Deck with the new LED screen. I know the steam deck isn't as powerful as the rog Ally or the legion go but all the optimizations that valve has done for is a major Plus for the steam deck in my opinion. The Lenovo legion go it's probably my first choice because of the sheer size of the screen.

[@taylorjustice6462]

Yeah I’m completely new to pc gaming and this is going to be my pc handheld choice since I didn’t want to get a laptop. I was going to get the steam deck but the screen is so good

[@spike178]

Buy both.

[@nekrosfear]

Steam Deck OLED

[@ThompYT]

The deck will forever be better just because of valve's support in software and hardware. You're not getting that anywhere else.

[@Coliflower185]

@@ThompYT forever easier and simpler. Not across the board better

[@johnsducks9816]

I feel like the mouse mode should be an optional variant not the default. Definitely a niche that a lot of people would rather just not have those buttons getting in the way of regular gameplay.

[@ancientflames]

same thing I thought after seeing it.

[@dezfoto7534]

For me, I just like that the physically larger screen allows me to see things a bit better in games like Diablo 4, or the stratagem codes in Helldivers 2.

[@kylecraven3110]

Screen size, mouse pad and detachable controllers sounds perfect! I've only had problems with my team deck was looking at selling it and grabbing this, but its pretty much $2000 NZD :o

[@faithandreason]

I play a lot of VN so for me the Lenovo go works great and the screen size rocks and I am not struggling to read the font unlike my steam deck. I have been already using the screen with the controllers detached already when I do my VN. I am getting games load like no man sky and Pharaoh to test out some rts play. But so far for me the money has been worth it.

[@AnthonyMiele]

Oh yeah Bob time

[@frankiesilva7176]

One might say, “it’s Bobbin Time”

[@Teremei]

[@Dracossaint]

Thanks for the review Bob, love having your perspective.

[@omaewamoushindeiru5937]

I need this for emulation ❤thanks for the video.

[@FabioJackson]

after a few updates this handheld is the best one running batman arkham knight at full graphics and 1920p with 55 to 60 fps

[@Halo44327]

Hmm I was holding off to find info about this. Glad to know about the heat issue. I got less happy with my asus with the sd card and other issues. And steam deck was weak imo. I honest just went back to my switch for now.

[@smartphonefan5226]

The Legion Go is basically a mini Windows tablet. Looks like the iPad mini has some serious competition.

[@Jaroartx]

exactly some reviewers are no checking that function out i saw one using in portrait mode pretty neat

[@TBHJR]

Well it is essentially a Y700 tablet with windows and better internals.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

i hope that this makes Controller Mouse Hybrids a more common thing, as I'm one of the weirdos that hate WASD for movement but loves Mouse for aiming & yeah the Lenovo JoyCons having the slider be downwards is gonna end up in tragedy

[@Sir_Caffeine]

Looks great! Buts there's just something about the steamdeck... Maybe it's steam os and the support Valve gives their handheld.

[@kozad86]

Can’t wait for the ARM versions of these handhelds, just imagine the battery life.

[@Bert439]

QHD at that screen size is sheer hubris! 720p with a 90hz is the sweet spot for a screen that size

[@Originalimoc]

2k144 is the big reason I ordered one😃, with RDNA 3 video decoder it's a streaming beast

[@TheLucasdms]

The Hall Effect became a buzz after the joycon drift fiasco. People wanted a way to permanently fix their joycons and the hall effect sticks are what solved that.

[@craffordjf]

The smaller screens on the others just don't work for me.

[@calypsoraz4318]

I really like the idea of all these handheld devices, I just don't like handheld gaming. My switch rarely gets used out of the dock.

[@danielcobia7818]

I think Valve intentionally timed the announcement of the OLED Steam Deck so that it would screw up your video. If you get one I'll look forward to hearing your thoughts.

[@bipbop3121]

I definitely think they wanted to steal some Legion Go thunder, but doubt they specifically targeted Y'Tubers. 😂

[@danielcobia7818]

@@bipbop3121 I'm positive it's not true. It's funny to say it 😁

[@thebizzle413]

The ally hits that sweet spot, designed to roast through 1080p games.

[@peterclaver5579]

New use case: A disabled person’s computer. When iPads or other touch tablets with no buttons are a problem, I wonder if OTs could recommend these in the future. Easier nav, upright mouse, put the monitor/tablet on a mount… along with voice to text and text to speech, these form factors could have an alternate potential to gaming. Sorry if there are better options, I just know an OT and some disabled people that have trouble with touch screens and re-linking trackballs etc. that don’t work well anyway. (OT = occupational therapy) Related: I watched to see if this had a left handed mouse and how the mouse worked. That upright style is appealing for past arm injuries, but I’ll need to see if the buttons reach for left hand only use. Thanks for vid “Mr. Den ;-)” Love your team’s video edits and the jokes. I watch your old buried ads just for fun. Edited for typo. ok ok typo bc I was using speech to text…

[@charliebat]

i’ll be waiting on this one bcus i am actually REALLY interested in this handheld but i want to wait for it to mature a bit before i sink stuff into it

[@charliebat]

maybe they’ll make a smaller version? or a more compact one without sacrificing the feel and how premium it seems to be. i don’t mind smaller screens! i love my rg35xx (thank you bob, considering the rg35xx+ and getting a powkiddy x55)

[@alecjahn]

Cheers for putting the product name in the video title. It's one of those little things that I respect way more than trying to make a clickbait-y open-ended title.

[@Splackavellie85]

While I agree with you that this is the year that handheld PCs became mainstream, I would recommend most mainstream users to hold off buying one until next year, when basic flaws are ironed out. The main thing being that all handhelds should come with a native landscape screen, which the Legion Go lacks. It uses the same flipped portrait screen that Aya, OneX and GPD use and when you’ve used a native landscape screen on the ROG Ally and Steam Deck, those come with a host of compatibility issues that most users won’t want to deal with. I REALLY wanted to love the Legion Go, especially for the large screen and detachable controllers, so it could double as a Surface Pro-like tablet on top of being a powerhouse gaming handheld. Considering the screen, lackluster software and disappointing speakers, I think I’m going to stick with the ROG Ally for now. Still, it’s great to see how the succes of the Steam Deck has incentivized larger manufacturers to dip their toes into this product category. As someone that actually bought the Razer Edge Pro in 2014/2015, these devices are making a decade old dream reality for me.

[@xMRxLAMAx]

Gpd have landscape screens and the steam deck screen is a portrait one

[@Splackavellie85]

@@xMRxLAMAx Not in the Win 4. Only in the Win Max, which is a laptop anyway. And I already mentioned the Deck

[@trumpeter811]

I thought this was sponsored by Lenovo that's what you said on the podcast....

[@jurgenklopp156]

Sony need to just come out with a new PSP with its own games and PS5 gaming compatibility. And that would dominate the market alongside the switch 2 imo

[@Veg-Power]

I think this is exactly what I waited for my whole life, pretty much since there windows pocket pc (PDA) era > 20 years ago. How damn versatile is this omg and ith dualboot linux/steamOS, heck o.o dream finally comes true ^^

[@ThaCyNiQ]

It's sad to see Bob's viewers dropping off...

[@yoshimasterleader]

Those detachable controllers are what I want in a handheld but I wish it was smaller.

[@danieljones9334]

Get a switch then 😂

[@yoshimasterleader]

@@danieljones9334 I have a Switch that's why I said it. Why do you find it absurd That I want a similar experience for my PC games.?I just don't find a need such a big screen. If it was ROG size it would be perfect.

[@caleasthetic]

Steamdeck is mostly used by people who like gyro aiming + trackpad aiming. This works together to replace mouse and keyboard in shooters. It is way more accurate then right stick aiming. but maybe not as good as mouse aiming.

[@xMRxLAMAx]

I think the steam deck is used mostly by console players that don’t know how pcs work and don’t care about the trackpads or back buttons but wanted a cheap option… not that the steam deck is cheap everywhere

[@Tomorrow64]

Tbh I think it just as good. Once the muscle memory settles.

[@theunknown7441]

​@@xMRxLAMAxyep, you're right bud! That's why they downsize this and the ally lol

[@danio1864]

You actually CAN take the thumb stick off, there’s even a slot for it in the case!

[@baked7423]

the fps mode is something i woudl expect from nintendo if they actually decided to insert mouse control. So simple yet innovative

[@HireMichaelEverson]

Here comes the OLED Steam Deck Burn in test lol

[@gellister]

A lot of the features speak to me. The non vrr display kinda stinks but my Deck doesn't do that either and I have been great with it running at 40hz. This screen should support 48fps really well since that is 1/3 ratio for 144hz and the extra horse power will absolutely take you there. Sub 60 fps on handhelds is less noticeable in general in my opinion because the travel of objects between frames is much harder to perceive, so I honestly think at 48 fps this thing will sing. Seems like a surprisingly feature complete 3rd "luxury option".

[@Cruzzzz777]

Me Levono come two day ago and omg is incredible!!! I love the screen and the graphics!!!! ❤❤❤

[@GeorgeSaulot]

Any info about the keyboard with the pi pico?

[@AproposDare]

11:40 is very discerning. I just ordered mine. 😢

[@S8838-x2j]

hey I just got mine, i'll tell u next week if it's serious or not

[@pulsss]

your comment about the resolution being maybe too big i feel is, while a valid concern, able to be completely mitigated by the fact that having resolution that high means that you can run games at a lower res, even 1080 or 720, and then upscale it and it will still end up looking better while still running at similar if not identical performance as the other two devices

[@bwompy1294]

I think that's the whole point too. 1600 / 2 = 800p just like the Steam Deck. However, with the Lenovo you can watch movies or have a full QHD tablet as well. This makes the Lenovo really hard to pass up over the Steam Deck.

[@nottrevorallen]

i cant believe we got the year of the windows handheld before the year of the linux desktop

[@Jimmyageek]

This is all in one PC on the go

[@3up3rn0va]

That mouse controller looks sooo cool! That’s the most unique thing I’ve seen in a pc handheld. All the other pc handhelds just look like the Steamdeck to me. No innovation. This? Actually looks great. If I had money I’d splurge. 😅

[@DoNotPassGO]

Look at the little guy!

[@stevenarmstrong5364]

I would be very interested in seeing what non-gaming things this device is capable of, like could I load something like FL Studio and make music? Maybe even plug in a basic MIDI controller? It could replace a traditional laptop for me

[@tukos7370]

Yes. It's a windows PC. It does all that. Just get a Bluetooth dongle for extra USB ports. It also has Bluetooth.

[@spadac4543]

I have a phone holder on my nightstand next to my bed. My Steam deck doesn't fit because it's too small vertically but this would fit perfect and pair it with a nice controller and I can just play it laying down in bed no problem not having to hold it at all.

[@sora4786]

VRR for me determined the winner for me ain’t no way ur getting a steady fps on a portable console all the time and at least with vrr it makes it much more smooth

[@fresco_dinero5155]

Facts. Asus is amazing for putting VRR on the ally

[@MobileDecay]

Why are creators just casually admitting they can’t give an unbiased review if it’s sponsored all of the sudden? First Taki, now you’re saying it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@V3ntilator]

Asus and Lenovo is the only 2 brands that ever sold PC Handhelds globally. The difference is that the big global brands is in on it in 2023. It probably won't be long until Acer also announce a "Predator" handheld too. Valve sells Steam Deck only to a limited number of countries. Anyways. I bought the Lenovo Legion Go and love it.

[@gerardomoreno8832]

Hall effect is 100% not a ‘buzzword’. Even hall effect sticks that are considered innacurate are better in every way than most pots.

[@JohnGregoryGarza]

I have one. Works nicely but the Battery goes quickly. Might get a onexplayer 2 beard the battery is stellar.

[@Athithan_2000]

I play my games with chalk like an Olympic person!

[@megapro125]

10:27 wtf are those input devices. looks like IRL hackerman lol

[@almightyvock]

Im still sticking with the SD. However, the ayaneo Kun looks pretty interesting, but Im probably going to wait until SD2 comes out

[@fresco_dinero5155]

Why not the Ally? Perfect middle ground. And the performance and fsr 3 and frame gen is gonna make sure the Z1 extreme is relevant for years

[@almightyvock]

@@fresco_dinero5155 It does seem pretty nice, but my SD has a 3TD hard drive + 1 TB microSD. I have a lot in it and Im fairly happy with it. Im hoping the next generation has at least an option with a larger screen and better battery.

[@WohaoG]

probably the lack of mouse stuff@@fresco_dinero5155

[@xMRxLAMAx]

Some older games don’t like portrait screens apparently

[@extra4542]

the Kun is $1000+ tho lol. I wouldn’t risk an ayaneo handheld tho bc of their poor after sale support

[@danielallen5551]

I'm a big fan of Lenovo. They've done a lot of great things with their Acquisition of I b m's think pads and motorola. The moto z4 is highly underrated with its modular set up.

[@TornadoBarrage]

You press and hold the top Lenovo buttons for like 5 seconds or more to turn them on and sync without attaching them again

[@jeansenvaars]

I really like the way you analyze topics. Subscribed!

[@MedalionDS9]

I see people with one of these things and I get a little jealous but I don't see how it would work in my real life routine... I don't go out often to make this worthwhile. But I could use a "gaming laptop" replacement and this thing looks like a probable contender.

[@bipbop3121]

Depends, what's the gpu in your current laptop? Or you just won't use your laptop on the couch or in bed? There's a shocking number of people that just use these at home. Edit: If I had one, I probably would end up using it more than my 1660 Ti laptop, where as I just use my phone (not gaming) when I should pull out my laptop. I also, would definitely use it out. I'm often at other's houses, instead of home. However, I can't justify buying something just for gaming, at this time. There's many things from pocketable to handheld pc, I'd love to get, though.

[@AwkwaBear]

Wow Valve clapped back fast

[@DjKlzonez]

Might end up buying as a "keyboardless" laptop

[@narikaba439]

Hmm...I'm going to hold off on buying this thing. Retro Game Corps also had problems with the usb c ports. A potential deal breaker.

[@augustbiernbaum4841]

I think if Dell/Alienware comes out with one, it has the opportunity to be the coolest looking and most overpriced handheld yet

[@bipbop3121]

I don't know, Dell/Alienware would want to outsell the Aya Neo Kun, one would think. Maybe not the most overpriced?

[@ulisesgil4209]

Really like the format of this review. It's like a conversation that naturally covers the key topics. Might have to get this over the other handhelds. Nice video!

[@nasonvillanueva4542]

What kind of keyboard is that?

[@ExiledRetro]

The loki max has bad grinding on the sticks. Had to use some super 33 tape to make a smooth barrier. Works great after that.

[@mekman4]

Great Stuff, as always.

[@AdmiralBison]

This is still just the beginning of the handheld gaming PC. I can see HGPCs along with the Switch 2 being the major way to play games in the future. Handheld Gaming PCs have so much flexibility, utility and modularity: + Mobile gaming on the go Pcs + dock able + eGPUs to become desktop PCs + Entire games collection in one device with you anytime anywhere + Emulation + Modding + configurable and upgradable (limited but more so than consoles) + Many varieties for preferences in sizes, form factors, designs, features and specs. I got a TDJ T101 10" handheld Gaming PC as it is the closest thing so far to a coveted Handheld/tablet/desktop PC all in one.

[@TBHJR]

Honestly I’m not into the detachable controllers. You can’t put them together, you can’t use them as two controllers, it’s purely meant for FPS mode which doesn’t look intuitive. Also, someone else said it best: this looks like a prototype that got manufactured. If I could get this screen and internals in a Steam Deck, it’d be perfect.

[@blackboxmobile7106]

Great vid ... Could this be used as a straight up desktop PC ... Monitor keyboard mouse ... Portable when you need it and the ability to use it as a daily PC.... What does anyone think?

[@bwompy1294]

Yes. He made a video after this where he does just that. He even plugs in a full size GPU and plays games at 4k on the Lenovo and a monitor.

[@tinabeana7]

I’m still concerned about the windows os and if Lenovo will continue to offer support. Or with the next gen will they stop.