Okay, maybe you should buy a LAN Adapter for your Nintendo Switch

[@giorno5754]

Why do we need a lan adapter in the first place? This should've been on the dock. Edit: DAMN People are still commentin to this post i even forgot i posted this but yes they finnaly did it After 3 whole yrs........ nice

[@jasontodd2543]

Super factz

[@redatlas8484]

You're talking about a company that has the fastest selling systems of all time and still haven't added messaging or voice chat to any first party game natively. Oh yeah, they also took over a year and a half to allow back up saves, oh yeah.......and their USB 3.0 port isn't actually a USB 3.0 port. WHY EVEN ADD IT IF IT'S NOT A 3.0 PORT?!?!?

[@TonyJenn]

@@Hirrei themes are a low priority at this point. There's other issues need fixing well before themes.

[@sangan3202]

Giorno they know damn well what theyre doing, they have their own branded adapter and have been doing this shit since the Wii U, they want to sell people adapters instead of just adding a port to the damn console

[@giorno5754]

@@sangan3202 exactly

[@curywuast1647]

That's a problem , servers are costly. If they were to make servers for Smash Bros you would have to pay like 20 Bucks for a year. Oh wait...

[@rokor3578]

Haha I hate my life fuck Nintendo

[@doesntexistanymore978]

Its not like sony or Microsoft dont charge that per month

[@curywuast1647]

@@doesntexistanymore978 But they give ya what? Servers!

[@sonicsucks2961]

@@curywuast1647 also they give you free games

[@ThatLegitBeast]

Servers wouldn't fix anything because fighting games need a peer to peer connection.. What they could do is make it easier to check how good the connection would be before you play your opponent, or just match with people that have a connection that is good enough.

[@SpawnWave]

It'll be much better whenever Nintendo actually takes advantage of that USB 3.0 port on the back. We're almost 2 years in and they haven't done much with it.

[@cameronhirsch]

It needs more "STABILITY".

[@teriinekoyama1369]

In full agreement with you there.

[@hadokenexe]

@@cameronhirsch that would definitely "enhance the user experience" 😉

[@jonathontsamantanis]

Hey your on my twitter !!!!!!

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Hoping for a 2019 Switch 2.0 with multiple improvements.

[@gormburger]

The dock should've had a dang Ethernet port to begin with

[@gus051]

I got my switch about a month ago and I was shocked there was no Ethernet port lol

[@GameCyborgCh]

really weird, since a 100Mbit port would have been stupid cheap to add and is more than enough for everything you want to do with your switch

[@jerseybound717]

agreed

[@breather8758]

I just love it when company's try their best to cut costs..

[@idontusethisaccountanymore802]

@@breather8758 *cut costs to make us separately pay more

[@drezz9766]

Love how everyone's casually talking about getting 100mbps and I just tested mine only to be hit with that... 5.7

[@whyyallputcheeseonmycheesebur]

Bruh at least that's better than mine. I tested mine and got 3.2 mbps

[@kokaykokay1847]

Bruh stay here ay the Philippines where 1mbps is fast

[@MichailKrabs]

Boi mine is 697.3 Kbps...

[@elwendigorex1101]

Try 283.9 kbps 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MichailKrabs]

I got a new router and now it’s between 24 and 36 mbps :P

[@zephyr6913]

I just wish they had ping and speed info in game plus warnings so that a player can be informed that they are the problem in the connection.

[@KC-bg1th]

Zephyr Sol Nintendo will add that to their games in 15 years.

[@Ezzekiel73]

Dude, every game in the last 10 years has dropped that info tidbit because of how toxic people get over it I mean, I agree, I'm one of those people that will yell at you for ruining everyone's game when I see you running around with 150+ ms in our lobby, so there's no way in hell Nintendo will give you an indicator to show how good your opponent's internet connection is

[@poolemon9016]

I wish they split players so you can only match up with people who have the same ping/connection like a lot of fighting games do

[@TheMetaldudeX]

I passed on clearance lan adapter because of your video. I won’t forget this....

[@mohamedelmi6454]

Metaldude X Lmao

[@Slat3]

KHAAAAN- Ahem- BOOOOOOOB!

[@sameerkhatri588]

buy a third party one, a nintendo branded onev isnt any better

[@mabuzn3od3ath17]

@@Slat3 Boob?

[@TheMetaldudeX]

Sameer Khatri it was $5

[@CharacterDesignForge]

Good on you, Bob, it’s totally understandable. Ping and consistency are the biggest reasons I ended up grabbing a LAN adapter, and I’ll have everyone else know that when I DM’d Bob about it he was perfectly fine with conceding I had a good reason to get one. Like you said, the explanation in the previous video was the only real issue, and something definitely happened since then. Plus, ping in Splatoon 2 is a lot different than ping in Smash, where winning is a matter of frames.

[@CharacterDesignForge]

NTSCollector-J yes, thats the main thrust of what Im saying without spelling it all out, Smash benefits from lower latency.

[@CharacterDesignForge]

NTSCollector-J all good my friend ☺️

[@heldon7951]

Lol I came here because the tiniest lag spike in Smash Ultimate can cost you an entire game, and I wanted to learn more about lan adapters

[@EnriquePage91]

Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge indeed, as a matter of fact shooters tend to have AI on their servers to "figure out" what other players are doing so that data updates don't need to happen every single frame. Basically the necessary data is stripped and everything else is only calculated locally on your console, and every X frames all clients are "updated" and get new info from the other players. In between those update cycles, there's a lot of "i think the player wanted to do this" which is why shooters tend to freeze much less than games like smash, since they literally "skip" those dips. However when you're playing a fighting game clearly you cannot employ this method as frames matter substantially. You cannot "guess" what a player wants to do for 30 frames and then update the clients. This in all honesty is a serious disadvantage for fighting games as they freeze a lot more often. Unfortunately Nintendo's shitty online does not help since we do not even get servers for the games to help in this matter. However, dedicated servers would STILL not be good enough for smash, at least NOT for pros. I am sure there would still be ocasional dips that would be significant enough to annoy them.

[@paulblart8568]

I get that dedicated servers are expensive, but we are also paying for Switch Online. When I pay for something I expect to get my money's worth, and at the moment, there is not a single reason for me to be paying for this horrible excuse for an online service until Nintendo switches to dedicated servers.

[@seanc1361]

Thank you - heaps of publishers provide dedicated servers. Smash ultimate is selling amazingly, how can anyone say its too expensive.. After most people who got the online service only decided to for Smash. But it's just Nintendo being fkn clueless - so typical Nintendo. I assume it was too expensive to add that ethernet port too, cause only expensive items can afford those premium ethernet ports that literally everything else comes with. Such a big company and equally big dumb dumb.

[@Jordan64Games]

Good luck. Because as far as I remember, the money that people that pay for online with Xbox or PlayStation doesn’t even go to dedicated servers in the first place.... so I doubt Nintendo will ever do that.

[@paulblart8568]

@@Jordan64Games the difference, is that microsoft and sony dont own activision, and they dont provide the server for Call of Duty for example. Nintendo, on the other hand, own Super Smash Bros, so they are most definitely providing the servers.

[@TheDaxter11]

until *nintendo switches* hue hue hue

[@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF]

@@paulblart8568 If you hate it so much, JUST DON'T FUNKING BUY IT THEN. BUGGER OFF TO PLAYSTATION AND PAY THIS PRICE EVERY MONTH FOR JUST A FEW SHITTY GAMES FOR FREE EACH MONTH.

[@intelligentmastermined]

Amazing. You went back and corrected your mistakes even if it took some time out of your day. Subbed

[@zoskiethewizquit.7338]

stonks

[@tamuwu]

@Mykel Hardin Nah it's good, you're just trash. :3

[@AznUzer]

Mykel Hardin you’re an inbred

[@ignacio6454]

Actually he didn't. He is still saying that unless you uploading a 8K video etc, you shouldn't need a LAN connection (to play games) and that everyone's case is different. He is wrong, because LAG will always be higher on even a "good" 5GHZ WIFI connection.

[@spyc3311]

Love the censoring sound effects lol. The Mario ones are so hilarious.

[@spyc3311]

8:47 “You will have a sh... wahaaa! ...connection.”

[@tolstoydreamcastfan]

It's very good but I still have to my favorite censorship sound is the one done by Relaxalex with Ganondorfs grunt, it makes it sound he is saying another word entirely XD

[@Gr8saiyaman88]

Literally why I just subscribed 10/10 ESPORTS

[@HeilRay]

WAA-HOOO

[@aggressivebuttonmasher5486]

Dont buy a lan adapter * smash comes out * P L E A S E BUY A LAN ADAPTER GOOD GOD

[@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512]

Also Splatoon 2

[@broder3294]

Why we pay for online even tho we still have peer to peer and not servers?

[@EskChan19]

Because you pay it. You know how much of the money from a Playstation Plus or X-Box Live Gold membership go towards servers? 0,00$. But as long as people pay, why not charge for it?

[@brailleeulogy120]

EskChan19 what this guy just said is so damn true. If no one paid the service fee, then there wouldn’t be one. Companies would compete to offer a game that didn’t require it. But we pay. Fuck we buy loot boxes even though we can clearly see how they have ruined many games.

[@EskChan19]

@@B33T33W Where did i say console games are Peer-to-Peer? Nowhere that's right. Most games are not. But again, i never said that. What i said is that you don't actually pay for the servers. Which is true. Because on console, dedicated servers can go two ways. Either a third party publisher hosts them themselves, then paying Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo for the online infrastructure does nothing, because they don't get a cent of your subscription. Or they host on Sonies/Microsofts/Nintendos servers. But that's pretty expensive. The publisher has to pay a pretty sum to the company they use the servers of, and that is how they are maintained. Either way, none of the money you pay for the online subscribtion actually goes towards maintaining the servers for online play. You could argue about First-Party Games now, but those are maintained easily by the sales of the games. Videogames have among the highest margin of profit of any medium on the world. Using some of that profit to keep their servers running definitely wouldn't ruin companies of the scale of Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. And the overarching infrastructure is easily paid for by the PS Store, XBox Marketplace or Nintendo eShop, where every Sale made gives some of the money to their respective owners. So really, they can easily afford all of this without subscribtions. The only reason they have them is because people are paying them, and no company would refuse free money for doing absolutely nothing.

[@xorpen]

@@brailleeulogy120 True, I would probably buy a shit ton of boxes if smash had them. And complain about it. Logic.

[@WednesdayMan]

yeah, we wouldn't have this paywall if the Xbox 360 failed. but it didn't.

[@DavidGonzalezSamudio]

The reason you had low speed was someone at the den watching porn at 4K60VR. Be respectful guys, only 1080p during the day.

[@brianrivera7889]

Fav vid??o_0

[@SirNarax]

"We are just playing video games on the Nintendo switch" This is the same man in the gamecube gamepad video that preferred a wired connection due to less lag.

[@TheLegendarybehemoth]

American netcode is actually just a port of the Japanese game Doki Doki Panic.

[@benosonline]

Legendary Behemoth >American netcode

[@paulunga]

Why does this not have more upvotes?

[@WulffDen]

god damn it

[@mjc0961]

More like Doki Doki Literature Club considering how many times matches kill themselves.

[@Reddotzebra]

@@mjc0961 #justmonica

[@johnwalker5996]

I just bought a switch yesterday, and Breath of the wild, and Smash. Im so happy now :)

[@Slat3]

Got one last week and zelda, you're in for something amazing.

[@johnwalker5996]

@@Slat3 the game is amazing, so is smash

[@giuseppevaccaro7521]

You shouldn't, shitty games

[@brandonalvarezify]

i’m thinking of doing the same....but that’s over $400 man lol

[@johnwalker5996]

@@giuseppevaccaro7521 there not shitty to me. Seem to be better than a garbage ass COD game, shooters are trash, Nintendo holds there value. Unlike Piss por Sony and Microsoft.

[@dylanslivinski9453]

That sword-shave transition though. That was filmmaking genius 👏🏻

[@TobiTheHuman]

Truly epic, yeah!

[@siegfriedfinal343]

I really thought he used it as a shaver

[@Ryukachoo]

The switch has a notoriously awful wifi radio. Even being just a little too far from your router will cause dropped packets galore which will effectively increase your ping, if not randomly disconnect you.

[@1hardyparty]

Same issue. Recommend fixes?

[@mranxiety9995]

@@1hardyparty buying an ethernet cable?

[@nestorrolon4158]

@@mranxiety9995 not quite useful without a lan adapter, sadly

[@mranxiety9995]

@@nestorrolon4158 that to

[@blackhatfreak]

The problem is most likely on Nintendo side since you're getting speed results from their servers and ISP.

[@Jaeywa]

2:24 video starts

[@rishthefish37]

Sector 7 HOLY SHIT THANK YOU I hate filtering through bullshit

[@MobileDecay]

Did you buy razers?

[@wallace19860914]

Thanks

[@bichybiki]

Sector 7 be bless you

[@velocity7932]

*Not the hero we ask for but the hero we deserve!!!*

[@dramalifeny]

“Calm down linus tech tips” 😂😂

[@max1iq795]

*sex tips

[@HunteroftheNorth]

My friend was complaining about the online in ultimate.... while using Wifi. I told him so many times to get the friggin adapter. He finally listens and his speed went from 15 mbps to 75 mbps.... Now our arena matches run super smooth

[@adrianfootball0558]

Hunter of the North he connected to a router right

[@HunteroftheNorth]

@@adrianfootball0558 It's a modem router provided by Rogers.

[@thelastone0001]

I like stories with happy endings

[@Verticom10]

Interesting how such a thing should be a necessity

[@silverdragon1005]

I honestly do not get the issue with mine. I get ~35 Mbps with ethernet, but get ~75 Mbps from my PC that is connected to Ethernet. I Even bought another adapter and set my NAT type from B to A to see if it would make a difference.

[@TonyMezaXD]

9:44 Just to support your argument, another fighting game ‘For Honor’ used peer to peer connection at launch and every one complained and even quit the game until Ubisoft switched to dedicated servers.

[@ArthenExplorer]

That means I can just blame my opponent when there’s major lag when I play Smash online since I’m using a LAN adapter right? I shouldn’t? I’ma do it anyway.

[@Bellorin21]

"Just stay away from 4-player battles" I'm trying, but the game just starts getting me into playing free for alls

[@sasuke65743]

Use the smash rooms. Set up one with your rules and you're set. As for ranked matches i honestly don't know if they apply also there or are only quick match related.

[@AlfaKenyBud]

TheFakeTron use background matchmaking

[@Juanni]

@@sasuke65743 But that's not what people want. In arenas, you have to wait your turn, or wait for others to join you.

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

I notices that using the "background matchmaking" works better than the quickplay for finding a match with your preference.

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

@@Juanni not if you Host the room, make it so that only 2 people is the max players that can be in the arena, and play with for Glory rules and name the arena "For Glory", you will never have to wait more than 20 seconds for a player to find your room

[@Cruzjandro]

Bob how dare you change your opinion

[@EMPeter]

I know, right? Madness, I say. MADNESS

[@JaKingScomez]

@@EMPeter smh shouldn't have been wrong in the first place

[@peterk1837]

Yeah, unsubscribing

[@aliciafraser1835]

@@JaKingScomez You're an idiot if you truly believe people aren't allowed to make mistakes, and a hypocrite at that. Unless you're one of those fucks who think they never screw up.

[@smilesthenarrator]

Alicia Fraser it’s a joke bro chill

[@alfredovaldiviezo7342]

"We are just playing videogames on our nintendo switch, we're not transfering 8k video files aight ? Calm down linus techtips" xDDD

[@rudayg0]

Just because you talked shit about Kansas I’m still going to use my cellphone hot spot as my connection while playing elite smash with nothing but heavy characters.

[@y4msqu4d]

Absolute madman you are

[@line6peavey]

4g heavy Bois represent

[@cipher893]

QQ

[@kakouhai7162]

Ah yes epic

[@_everydayelias]

Great video. Just got a switch so have been going through your videos and learning stuff! Also from Kansas. Thanks for the shout-out!

[@darkscot1338]

I have a LAN adapter because walls.

[@darkscot1338]

@Sir Ivobardolf or use a lan adaptor and ethernet cable I already own and not spend a shit load on money to get a wifi signal to penetrate multiple old thick solid walls.

[@redatlas8484]

@Sir Ivobardolf Regardless of how great your wifi is, some people just have horrible walls for any type of wireless connection. My house is brick and I get literally ZERO cellular signal. Maybe this guy has lead walls to protect from radiation or aliens. Ya never know!

[@metroid209]

I bought a Samsung mesh kit for $100, comes with 3 routers. Used to get 10 down and 60-80 ping, now get 60 down and 30 ping.

[@CzDelta92]

@@redatlas8484 same lol i got 4 brick walls in the way so lan for switch and pc

[@Space_Bryan]

How do you connect to the router when it’s in another room?

[@halkon4412]

The Switch's network speed test is done using Nintendo's own servers, so there might have been some kind of optimization on their side. It would be helpful if the Switch had a web browser so you could try third party network tests.

[@mkii9110]

in Australia, 10MB/s down is super fast!

[@SoupsSB]

In the video it's Mb not MB

[@dommnc]

8 mega bits/Mb = 1 mega byte/MB

[@Kykot1999]

@@dommnc What?

[@colincams]

@@Kykot1999 little b is bits, capitol B is Bytes. There are 8 bits per Byte. I'm getting 250Mbps through cable internet, or 31MBps in Aus.

[@wesleywhite9540]

I watched your old video and ignored your opinions and went out and bought a LAN adapter for my switch. It’s been so useful to me and I’m glad to see you go back on your previous claims. The LAN is adaptor is a must have for any online switch player

[@gopic292]

I love how in depth you go with these videos, both in this one and the one about 3rd party docks. I really enjoy hearing the details. Keep up the good work buddy!

[@jerseybound717]

it's because he has to go into detail people who don't know their stuff keep trying to correct him with wrong information when he was right all along. he even pointed that out at the beginning here.

[@Eragonfrost]

6:32 slight mistake you said "Nintendo still hasn't updated the port on the back to be a 2.0 port instead of a 3.0 port" *Edit Love the videos!

[@MrL0cky]

Smash over wifi is perfectly fine, i played with 2 switches connecting on the same wifi line while using videochat as well to a friend in the same matches from his own home. I could establish lag free matches. People tend to overestimate the wifi at there own home. Because you have full wifi signal, only user of the connection and connected to 5ghz doesnt equal great lag free gaming. Most complainers probably cheaped out on there home network or never spend a dime and use the free rental router they got from the provider. Never doubting they could be part of the problem as well. The lan adapter is not a real solution for most users. It only is a good option if you play docked mode exclusively and the dock is nearby there internet router / modem. Most houses dont have a way to establish a wired connection outside the living room.

[@velocity7932]

You technically are on a LAN as LAN means local area network meaning a network in a small geographical area. But I'm guessing your not using ethernet

[@battyflaps5410]

A lot of wifi users i know of are suffering from lag until they plug it in. Run a long cable through the house under the carpet its not going to be a problem you set it up once and you are fine.. The only issue is, if the router has all its ethernet ports filled and your stuck with wifi. That is a pain in the ass

[@Nekotamer]

nintendo effed us all when they didnt add an ethernet port into the back on the switch dock.

[@6ynical]

Yo i like ya profile pic

[@fujin5706]

Boy do I have news for you

[@isaiahthechristiangamer8716]

I have an horrible WiFi internet. Using an Wired connection was the best way I can enjoy playing online, but mostly in Free For All battles. In 1v1 battles, it just keeps stuttering.

[@BBonager91]

Look up NAT type connections. You had a type D connection in your first video witch is why you had a bad connection. NAT B is typical for wired connections and some wireless connections depending on several factors. NAT C is usually wireless that is blocked by some sort of wall or other enclossed cabinet. NAT A is when you come directly from your modem to a device skipping the router/switch. learned this the hard way years ago with my PS3. I ran wireless and the NAT type was C as soon as I wired in it became a NAT B and my speeds were better.

[@MrUtak]

I had to buy the LAN adapter. The wifi is too unstable anywhere I go, it’s not about speed. It’s impossible to play rocket league (mario kart and smash) online without one.

[@MrUtak]

With the lan adapter, everything works smoother. However, still, the switch CANNOT handle two or more players on rocket league online. Graphics wise and internet wise. It’s such a shitty experience. Sad.

[@yurikuki]

Samurai Shave Style Jutsu. Love your editing.

[@Ilandria.]

I've been playing online games on my PC using wifi for many years and generally don't have any issues stability or latency wise. I tried smash ultimate online over wifi and I would guess I average around 400-650ms of latency (button-to-pixel) no matter who I play against. I'll be trying a wired connection in a couple of weeks once I get an adapter, but as it currently stands it's not playable. Seeing as my PC always plays nearly perfectly in every game (p2p or client-server) I had just assumed the wifi adapter in the switch must be garbage for stability. We shall see!

[@1662ninja]

Wonder if we can get an update on your comment; did your online experience get better with an adapter, did it not, are you still even using your switch?

[@DaysforDaays]

Am also curious

[@jerseybound717]

sounds like a bandwidth problem something eating all your wifi waves. my smart tv was for me. moved the switch no problems now. funny cause the pc is near the tv too and not issues between these two so prolly eating all the wifi in the room.

[@IAmADavidAMA]

I haven't done much digging on this, but the speed (in the case of speed tests for computers) is testing your download throughput to a specific server. So if Nintendo up'd the throughput (mbps) on wherever they have your switch testing against, that'll cause the speed to "increase" when you measure it.

[@IAmADavidAMA]

also the latency on wireless isn't the best. It's usually dirty compared to wired. Lots of interference and the further away you are from the point the worse it gets. not to mention how much more overhead there is for things like packet collision detection, error checking, and other such things to make sure you aren't competing with other wireless devices.

[@iridiumflare]

Dedicated servers would not be expensive for fighting games, game servers are virtualized and a single server could host hundreds of games if done correctly.

[@Mooshie318]

I'm getting a switch for Christmas

[@MJ-xb5ux]

SuperMooshie21 YT same

[@MartellThaCool]

Hell yeah! get one and worth the investment

[@tatianauliankina6406]

Same

[@jimtaylor3917]

Buy smash and zelda botw. Honestly mario odyssey is fun but its wwwaaaayyyyyyy too eeeaaasssyyyy!!!! Dont buy Mario cart with smash ultimate out.

[@Mooshie318]

Idk which game I'm getting first, I just hope it's one of the games I have on my Christmas list Plz sub me I'll sub back

[@darolaho]

"stay away from 4 player battles" Lol I would if I could

[@najee_eee]

Sakurai's word is law so that's why the speeds improved

[@DannysParadise]

I’m currently unable to set up a LAN adapter to my setup because my router is in another room, but I heard on reddit a while ago that changing the MTU on your wifi settings from 1400 to 1500 can help with your connections. I tested it out and havent had too many issues with lad since. For people like me who cant go wired, this is a decent help.

[@jorji_]

i just discovered you, and holy shit the time you must put into your videos is absolutely astonishing, not to mention how charismatic and funny you as a person seem to be, by far the best gaming/tech channel I've come across in the past year

[@VanillaCrook]

If your playing smash bros ultimate online....PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'RE INTERNET CONNECTION IS AT LEAST HALFWAY GOOD. I'm so tired of playing in slow mo!

[@superdanny59ify]

C'mon, just let people with shitty internet have some fun. Some people have no choice because of their location, if it runs slow for you it's not their fault it's the games.

[@NHG97]

Dannyify no

[@superdanny59ify]

@@NHG97 pls

[@okardmccready611]

If youre tired of playing slomo, it might be you. Just saying.

[@JamFlexx]

@@solax7264 I mean shidd they paid like $300 + to play smash on their shitty wifi you can't stop them from playing lol

[@VetsRage]

I just re tested mine. NAT A. Download 13.7 mbps. Upload 7.0 mbps. Hori lan adapter model # NSW-004. My wireless test is still like three times faster.

[@WulffDen]

well there goes the NAT type theory lol

[@Zombies8Jayden]

I have the opposite. 13mbs for wireless and 50mbs for wired.

[@seanc1361]

@@Zombies8Jayden why do you keep talking about your speed, ping and consistency are more import. Even the fastest mobile internet is shit for gaming due to poor consistency and packet loss. Let's stop the bullshit, gaming packets aren't large and ethernet is ALWAYS better for gaming. You are not streaming and not having to large amounts of data - you just need to do it consistently and quickly. That's it in a nutshell. Edit: caveat -ethernet is always better unless there is something very wrong with your network.

[@Berserkism]

@@seanc1361 I have been gaming consistently on my phone's Internet connection for years. I play away from home on a laptop a lot. Mythic raiding in Warcraft to Trails of the Nine and Prestige raids in Destiny 2 as well as a whole host of competitive content in other games. I won't argue that it can depend on location and provider but it is not nearly anywhere as bad as it is being made out. My average latency is 32ms with about 8ms of jitter thst can increase to about 30ms of jitter depending on location, with occasional spike. It's rock solid and has better download speeds than my FTTN connection at home and quite often than not better latency. Not a special plan either, just standard 4G on an Samsung S5.

[@BruderysN]

I've got 130 mbps Down, 7 Upload on WiFi. 35 Down 5 Up on LAN. I'm totally confused.

[@WednesdayMan]

"If you've played Smash for the Wii U you'll know this is the case" no if you've played Brawl's Online Multiplayer you'll know that is the case. and I still remember how bad it was.

[@valkoln8436]

TheKHfan358over3d , I can only imagine...

[@valkoln8436]

I don’t want to imagine...

[@Bioniclema90]

Fun fact: if you have a USB C to USB A adapter (like from a Pixel phone) you can plug your switch into a LAN adapter while in handheld mode. Although, you can't charge it at the same time.

[@Maniacsurvivor]

WOW. Props for that nice transition @10:20

[@sennab376]

My birthday is tomorrow, this will be on my list!

[@MJ-xb5ux]

SeekTheGames merry christmas?

[@Sojhi]

Matt J 😂😂😂

[@user-pf7yf4dz6u]

Kinda too late to ask for shit no?

[@sennab376]

Nobody cares if you Cancel your Preorder Liberal Yeah, that’s right but it’s worth the try ya know.

[@BradHand1]

Same dude!

[@ninckmane]

I’ll probably get a LAN adapter for the Switch, but not the overpriced HORI one. It’s just too much money for a “Nintendo Quality assurance”

[@PsychOsmosis]

The AmazonBasics 3.0 LAN adapter uses the same chipset than the official Nintendo one, so for like 20$ (off the top of my head), you can have the same performance.

[@ninckmane]

@@PsychOsmosis I'm thinking about getting the Plugable one, I saw it on a Spawn Wave vid. They are all similar I guess

[@SheIIot]

Or you can get Ugreen adapter for 10-13$

[@jamestonbellajo]

BUT THIRD PARTY WILL BRICK YOUR SWITCH!!! All jokes aside, the UGREEN one works like a charm.

[@DavidHanks90]

More like licensing assurance :p

[@tempest_dawn]

The one thing I've learned from several years in IT - a lot of issues just come and go and sometimes there's no real reason to it. On average, the LAN adapter should be more stable than WiFi but yeah that's about the most benefit you're gonna get. EDIT: Yes, the title change makes me happy.

[@JC-qu5lv]

Also your NAT type changed from D (Trash) to B (Normal) which probably played into it a big part. Lastly changing your MTU would help too.

[@kylekenna92]

Good point about consoles capping their Internet speeds, my old xbox one would cap at 150mbps though through wired connection could get full speed. Most mobile device will have a cap as there only so much the device can download.

[@yoeptoep1730]

3:03 I didn’t know that wifi got affected by Thanos snap too!

[@SuperJimtendo]

Shaving with a sword is dangerous, that’s why I prefer using a lightsaber.

[@teriinekoyama1369]

Now that's shaving!

[@jonathanibasco3829]

The fuck is a lightsaber I shave with Excalibur

[@TheXev]

...a more civilized shave...

[@lipzi2]

Hope you use the small lightsabers that are included in the package

[@Sickentist]

I feel like you're still minimizing the difference in ping between wired and wireless.

[@Graestra]

I have really good wifi, and there's still a noticeable improvement when I use a lan adapter compared to wifi. In other games it might not matter, but in Smash the occasional stutter can really mess you up.

[@ChromeBreakerD]

Sickentist because hs wants to be right..

[@JustSomeoneRandom1324]

@@ChromeBreakerD he is though? He is right about making a mistake. And maybe "half-decent" is too low a bar, but my ISP's included modem delivers a wi-fi signal that most of the time only differs 2ms from LAN. So the difference can be minimal

[@seanc1361]

@@JustSomeoneRandom1324 how is this a discussion still, it's not just ping but consistency that's important.

[@JustSomeoneRandom1324]

@@seanc1361 don't ask me, I worded it badly, but that wi-fi I mentioned stayed at that level for literally hours. So I'd say it is rather consistent.

[@megamonstudios]

One very good reason for getting more wired adapters are if your in a large family in a neighborhood with a lot of other families. Since the wifi is constantly clouded even after manually changing your wifi channel for optimal performance it can still get hitches even with some of the better routers depending on your walls. Like at my house the wifi router is in the next room over but it still can't seem to be stable especially for pc games.

[@Napa39]

It's possible that their servers weren't equipped to handle the speeds you're getting now when you were first testing this. Maybe with the roll-out of their Online program, they also upgraded their servers or something along those lines to allow for faster connection speeds.

[@ASuwan22]

I only play in portable mode. This is no good to me lol.

[@dantedlane2]

I don't want to play online but I still wanna know what this i about since I'm getting the switch

[@ThePs3maniack]

I get 40Mbps with wifi 20Mpbs with the LAN Adapter WHY

[@Teknoist]

USB 2.0

[@Teknoist]

But low ping

[@morganfuentes4893]

I have the same problem right know, how can i fix it?

[@khaledm.1476]

A lan adapter won't help if you have a 2 mbps internet speed 😢

[@dduncane]

It will by not adding 30ms to your latency ... having 120ms RTD to backbone instead of 60ms RTD to backbone makes a lot of differences, especially if both players have WiFi, then we might look at 240ms RTD P2P or 120ms RTD P2P if both players have LAN.

[@khaledm.1476]

@@dduncane see your making one gigantic assumption and that's that I actually have decent ping. My ping has reached over 3000 in rocket league at times and a good match for me is in the 100-300s range never below that.It doesn't help if your internet itself is hopeless.

[@freewings2188]

@@khaledm.1476 it eill still help on eifi i get 1mb on ethernet i get 10 or 12

[@GodlyAwesome]

khaled mahmoud uhhhh.... lower ping is better, 3000 is basically 3 seconds of latency....

[@badreality2]

THANK YOU, for updating your previous video. I can't tell you how many KZbinrs change their opinion about a subject they've covered (or say they do), and then they never update their previous video(s) on the subject. They do not care, if their previous video(s) are misinforming the masses. They did a video on a subject, and now they're done covering it, fake news, they are on to the next thing.

[@TheReal_ist]

The reason why it suddenly changed id because it was a server related update they made. Meaning they were limiting the speeds u could have up until they added more servers to handle the increased 100mbs bandwidth. What I'm saying is that its not on your end it was a server update they made and since u all connect to the server its suddenly fixed across all devices. Simple, ohh and Glad to help.

[@Conbonzx]

what's it like to play a stable smash game? no wonder I lose alot lmao i need to invest in one.

[@d1sruptic]

I literally only have trash online in smash there's no problem in splatoon Arms mario kart or any other online first party game It's only in smash THE ONE GAME WHERE IT MUSTNT HAPPEN

[@Trizic_]

EXACTLY! after playing the Splatoon Demo for hours and hours and days and days im like... what a minute. I didn't lag not ONE TIME. NOT. AT. ALL. (Im gonna miss Splatoon since the demo ended rip.) its just that they gotta fix smash because its super annoying. My internet is completely fast and fine so there shouldn't be a reason on why i need it in the first place. Because if i buy a lan adapter and it STILL lags? imma be fucking pissed.

[@d1sruptic]

@@Trizic_ yea I have 1 gig internet aswell Also splatoon is 42 bucks that's a steal imo

[@IceColdKilax]

"Calm down Linus Tech Tips" LOL 😁 I'm ded.

[@zini4GRUNT]

I'm still idk, why N is so greasy and didn't placed rj45 right in the dock. This is ridiculous.

[@aaronrowe1658]

Fight game players prefer wired connections because NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR WIFI IS, ITS STILL WIFI. Its going to have momentary hiccups no matter the speed. Ethernet cables remove this problem. There is nothing better than offline fighting games, but if you want to take them semi seriously and play online, USE AN ETHERNET CABLE. The other player gets the exact same lag spikes from your wifi as you do, no matter that anybody says. That is why online tournament organizers, like ESL, require you to use a wired connection. To emulate the offline experience as accurately as possible. Even then, there are small differences in what you can and cant do online in fighting games. Online strats a hella real.

[@DrugMoneyCS]

You look like Nicolas cage 😂

[@NezD]

“If you have a s*** connection like out in Kansas somewhere..” Actually, Kansas City was the first US city to get Google Fiber back in like 2012. But yeaaa

[@djb9526]

Nintendo is doing something fishy

[@WulffDen]

i hope its sushi

[@djb9526]

@@WulffDen lol

[@alphashadow3085]

Its recommended that the switch works effectively on a wireless connection that is 5G or 5Ghz compared to 2.4Ghz, which is used for most networks. So it could maybe the type of wifi or the amount of devices connected to the network. The network I have is 2.4Ghz which has many different devices connected to it bringing mine down to 800 kb to 2 mb per second while other devices say about 50 mb per second. So once again it could be the type of network. (I've made a reply about this, and yes this mostly covers wireless conections, but this could still be helpful.)

[@fubar5884]

I had uttery horrid speeds when the Switch first released, and I tried using several different LAN adapters. Had a couple laying around the house that got bad speeds so I bought the official thing Nintendo was hocking, still had crap speeds. Now as you said, speeds seem fine. I honestly think it's something on Nintendo's end with their servers. They either didn't have their server's upgraded, or weren't expecting initial server loads to be what they were, or had speeds capped or something or other. Or maybe it had something to do with them launching the 'you now have to pay for online' thing.

[@Zerossoul]

7:24 I'm seeing Mac OS on the left, and an Acer Predator G-Sync Monitor on the right. Please tell me you're not using a G-Sync monitor on a Mac.

[@athebeast1769]

My Ethernet thing doesn’t work good, when I am on WiFi I get 50 down 10 up but with the Ethernet I get 20 down 3 up

[@guantes9523]

Same bought the official Nintendo one and a off brand both same results.

[@battyflaps5410]

On wifi i get like 8 down and 3 up.. at best i've seen it 3 up and 40 down on wifi.. I have the newer 2019 model with the extended battery life im not sure if there was so gimps to it or what compared to the older switch

[@guantes9523]

@@battyflaps5410 I got the new 1 to it does seem like the older model had a problem with the internet speed. I bought a ethernet adapter, I am getting 120 down and 40 upload. Previously with the same adapter with the old switch, I was getting around 45 down and 30 upload so big difference.

[@tudororor]

I'm from Romania, so I will never need a LAN Adaptor =)) At least... I hope

[@alexrevolution1]

Dap. In romania netul e mai bun decat in America:))

[@notstrange9157]

:)))

[@florinanghel7209]

Ai switch? Da un un pm

[@tudororor]

Ba, scuze, cunoștințele mele sunt mai proaste în general :)) ce înseamna pm?

[@tudororor]

@@florinanghel7209 private message?

[@mattmurdock8446]

So after lots of lurking around and catching your videos randomly in my searches, I realized I had not been subscribed to your channel. Had to remedy that. Liked and subscribed. Really enjoy your style man and loved your editing on the katana shaving!

[@ThatBoyJackaboy]

Also, for the input lag part, playing as or fighting against a Mii Fighter will cause more input lag. Don’t know why, it just does.

[@jimtaylor3917]

Not gonna lie. I'm one of those guys in Kansas. Sorry everyone. Btw I do have a lan adapter and I only lag roughly every 3 games.lol

[@soundlessorc8O8]

Jim Taylor I’m a Kanas boy as well. It isn’t very fun at times.

[@solcerer0006]

What's the problem for Nintendo in kansas?

[@ThatLegitBeast]

There's no problem, it's just a joke that a person in Kansas will probably have bad internet cause they don't live in a city.

[@solcerer0006]

@@ThatLegitBeast kansas city missouri and Kansas city kansas have amazing wifi options and are a large city/suburb

[@ThatLegitBeast]

@@solcerer0006 That's why I said people that don't live in cities.

[@damiandominguez4218]

I’m not happy with my connection because I don’t have WiFi!

[@andrewb2247]

Aye man I’m from Kansas and I got pretty good internet

[@JonathanTash]

My LAN adapter makes a massive difference because my room (where I play my Switch) is barely within range of our wifi. I got the Pluggable brand, not the official Nintendo one, and it works just fine. I have one Ethernet cable that runs to my room, but I have my computer and my Switch that both need to be connected to the internet. It was for this reason that I bought a network switch. Now, both my devices have a wired internet connection that works great.

[@weglarz]

The only way to accurately test bandwidth is to disconnect all other devices from your network when you do a speed test. This is something people don’t understand when they’re experiencing slower speeds. They go test their network and see they’re getting a third or a fifth of what they are paying for, and they think it’s something faulty. Well, little did they know their roommate was downloading a new game, or watching Netflix, or their PC starting downloading updates automatically without them knowing. There’s too many factors to account for. The best way to test is to take your device and bypass the router entirely and plug directly into your modem. That way you can be sure there’s no other devices sucking up bandwidth.

[@JM-fx2cc]

no bluetooth no lan on it , switch is a unfinished product

[@davidtirlokhi4954]

Know Pain yeah we can see that so much people bought it so fast. Now its gon take time for nintendo to bring out an updated system later on in the years which is a good thing. Were gon have an updated switch every 2-4 years. Like how the psp was. The switch will be the next psvita, not sucky, not just great, but games we can play online the best system to come out on handheld.

[@SaintsXIV]

Your other video is gold. However, average users struggle to minimize interference that can affect connection. Thank you for the other video that was super informative, and thanks for this one I guess... for the dumb-dumbs.

[@sniperfox47]

I mean it doesn't matter how much you cut down on interference, adjust wifi channels, and place your switch in a perfect place, you'll still get a much lower ping and stable connection out of Ethernet. Ethernet is typically on the order of 0.8-1.3ms while Wireless AC can vary from 1.5-10ms over the course of a few packets. The only thing worse than Wifi is Powerline Ethernet which can be 2-3x the latency of WiFi if you have noisy home powerlines. Edit: a kinda reliable source just to illustrate my point. It's a wireless N standard, but the AC standard didn't affect latency too much. Most tests you find will offer similar results if they've got it set up decently: linustechtips.com/main/topic/445640-the-powerline-is-low-latency-myth/

[@SaintsXIV]

@@sniperfox47 This is true! For Smash and my small group of gaming friends that do hectic 4-player matches in the Battle Arena, we understand how our wireless connections work and already have dozens of hours of seemingly lagless, near-flawless matches. Enjoying sessions that go hours without any apparent hiccups. So while minimizing ping is very useful with ethernet, the wireless on the Switch is quite capable of providing a pristine experience.

[@acooldude]

@@SaintsXIV any tips on getting better connections? What's your speed averaging?

[@SaintsXIV]

​@@acooldude NAT B, ~50 Down, ~10 Up. Speeds aren't really super important since you really are only required to have 3D/1U (oof, haha), that stable ping time though is key. On your pc hit up command prompt and ping google for a while and see if there are any spikes in your connection (the ms time, as well as packet loss), (google how to command prompt ping test if need be). If the ms results are consistent, and low (lower the better), you should be in good shape, if there are spikes all over or even packet loss, something is wrong. Common things that affect connection are walls (or the electronics in them, and no one is getting through solid concrete/brick), appliances, lamps, electrical/energy sources, so a clean path to your connection will help the most! There are of course various settings on routers that can cause some issues with data passing through, as well as other devices on the network soaking up the bandwidth - but a good rule of thumb is if you can pull a solid, stable connection with low ping on ethernet, then your service should be capable of providing a near identical experience while gaming wireless on the Switch. Xbox/PS4/PC may not be so nice. Variables are the worst when trying to determine what an actual cause is to connection issues. For ease, Ethernet it all day, but if you're willing to do a little bit of a fight, Wireless on the Switch is perfectly fine!

[@techwazerd5197]

lol promoting a razor company but looks like he does not shave

[@miramaldito]

He grooms it, which is still noice

[@techwazerd5197]

@@miramaldito dats true

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

How do you know he doesn't shave?

[@techwazerd5197]

@@SuperSayinSolidSnek look at his face he has not shaved

[@brock985]

Techwazerd They sell grooming products, which he clearly uses.

[@joecannavaro4452]

I like peer to peer just because it levels the playing field, I don’t too much mind the game being slower if I know my opponent is still seeing the same thing AND IF its just a one on one fight.

[@MrAdamTeacher]

Yeah I changed that MTU number that a lot websites recommend and am still using wifi, which is mostly stable as the modem/router is next to the hub getting 60mbps down speed at most times of the day when tested. I usually play with one or two specific people, so to your point if you have a regular group then everyone getting one may bring some notable stability or hopefully a lag free day. I’d like to know what kind of speed is recommended for ideal experience. I can say right now even with the recent download speed, I often find myself either having to repeat input that were missed by due to very short but constant lag spikes (especially during sensitive moments like off stage recovery). I’ve also noted that some character using just my wifi connection are absolutely unplayable as they are when playing offline- specifically Ken and Ryu, and now terry. These characters have classic inputs from that arcades that often muddled up or just entirely missed due to connection instability. That said, I’ve sort of trained myself to play a version of online sMash where my inputs are more deliberate and I can used immediately tell when I’ve missed now from experience. Anyways, I intended to buy myself and my buddy an adapter, so if end up back I’ll let you know how that work out. Thank you the information. (Didn’t watch the first video)

[@jusmor7371]

You need products to fix your hairline

[@infernoblur9768]

Jusmor just wait when u get older

[@ThePowerofJames]

once you go widows peak, all the rest seem weak

[@romantichero]

You will be a bald baby too when you hit puberty.

[@evileyeball]

I don't play online on switch, I don't have Nintendo online. If I want to play smash with people I invite them to come to my house and select any of my Input methods 3 Platinum Gamecube controllers 1 Spice Gamecube Controller 1 Black Gamecube Controller 1 Indigo Gamecube Controller 1 Smash 4 Gamecube controller 1 Wavebird 1 Pro Controller 3 Sets of Joycons Local smash is the way to go for me I own Splatoon 2 but prefer the single player portion of that so I don't need NOL there Mario Kart 8 Deluxe plays Well from my couch with my friends/Wife Really the only part of NOL that I may be missing out on is internet trades in Lets Go but then again who knows in Internet trading if you are getting Legit pokés Not everyone is like me and keeps detailed family trees for their Pokémon breeding projects in gens that allow that for legitimacy proof. Mainly I didn't feel the need to pay $20 for online when most of the time I prefer to have people sit on my couch with me

[@tothewhat]

evileyeball Weird flex but okay.

[@Left4Cake]

Cool but this isn't a universaly applicable approch. I would love to invite a bunch of real word freinds over but adults have to spend alot of time adulting.

[@Left4Cake]

@Nob the Knave or perhaps all my local friends are a part of my other hobbies and I don't necessarily have friends near me interested in playing Video Games... for just one example.

[@BlackboxEngineerGaming]

Changing my MTU value helped a bit. There is a great guide to get a proper MTU number

[@talimityy]

One other thing to consider is that the Switch seems to be very unforgiving when it comes to WiFi interference. I have gigabit internet, and while my Switch downloads games very quickly over WiFi, it’s unusable for multiplayer because I live in a high rise and there are literally 50+ WiFi networks within range of me. All of these networks are competing over the same slice of radio spectrum, which doesn’t cause too many problems with streaming or downloads but is a huge issue for games where latency and reliability are important. I couldn’t even finish a single Smash fight without getting disconnected until I got a LAN adapter. If you live in an apartment or just somewhere with crowded WiFi, the LAN adapter may really help significantly.

[@haydenford9498]

Amen to the subnet mask comment! We spent two whole lessons on subnet masking and working it out and I've never actually had to manually work it out having worked as a network/server admin for 6 years