performative cleanliness & the hygiene olympics

[@SilverlineXZero]

"it connects us to nature" *walking on concrete and a freaking mall*

[@Spacingout3000]

Literally tho😭 like you’re in a MALL. At least go in the woods or smth, pretty sure walking in the woods is cleaner than a damn shopping mall 💀

[@rathole36]

​@@Spacingout3000 RIGHT

[@GUNSFORTOES]

all i could think about lmao

[@ectopasta]

There is no way that video isnt rage bait. I cant think of any ass backward logic to do it legitimately 😭

[@EddwardTheSeventhSpaceWizard]

I’m honestly convinced those people are trolls.

[@voxnoodle1044]

I feel like showering after a particularly intense bathroom visit is a universal experience, but EVERY TIME? Consider investing in a bidet or a doctor's appointment, if it's that serious it's definitely some kind of gastrointestinal disturbance.

[@DustyHoney]

I have a detachable shower head that works well as an emergency bidet so I understand completely even though I do not relate persist

[@DustyHoney]

Per say not persist

[@designereyebags]

i remember someone saying if you got poop on your arm you wouldn’t wipe it off with a dry paper towel and call it a day-now i understand the bidet crowd tbh 😭😭😭

[@branamar000]

@@designereyebagsmy biggest opinion on this is. Whether you wash your asshole every time you shit, in between shits, bacteria WILL get back out. Sphincters are NOT completely sealed. Bacteria can and will get out. My arm however, does not get shit bacteria on it on the reg. I also don't touch my asshole regularly, i do touch my arm. Like yeah use a bidet, feel cleaner, but you're not actually getting rid of bacteria on your booty.

[@erikaj4655]

literally like buy a pack of baby wipes or sum 😭

[@R3DPharaoh]

Showering five times a day is NOT good for you. You might be cleaner yeah, but you’re not only getting rid of bad bacteria but also bacteria that you need to protect you from diseases and foreign objects. You’re also getting rid of all of the oils in your skin, and risk dry skin. You could argue that you’re using products like lotion to combat that, but those products are made under the impression that the user is showering 1-2 times a day. NOT FIVE.

[@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547]

Who showers twice a day? Why would anyone need to do that?

[@michipeachy69]

​@@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547there's really hot places and not everyone has a car with a working ac, sometimes you just get sweaty and gross on the car ride home

[@divinelyflawed]

@@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547 It’s very humid where I live. I walk a couple miles a day and go to the gym so I shower in the after that and again at night because i don’t like to get in my bed dirty.

[@yiprr3596]

​​​@@LostSoulchild89That's exactly why showering just at night is great if you want to save time in the morning!! though i understand some people sweat bad in their sleep and end up smelling or they just prefer morning showers

[@artmaks9363]

@@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547 I live in a hot and humid climate. Also I use natural ingredients, no SLS, so it doesnt impact my skin negatively.

[@poodoozle]

I immediately thought of the girls in my HS that started freaking out and publicly shaming a girl as disgusting and "dirty" because she was eating an apple and let it sit for a sec and STILL ate it after there was a little brown oxidization... SICK. I I despise those people.

[@gustavus0013]

@Ladyn99 Bruh, this and people who are disgusted by ripe bananas 😭😭😭💀. The obsession with foods looking “clean” is soo weird especially as someone who grew up with wet markets and fresh fruit stands.

[@theotherauthor740]

as someone who is consistently paranoid about their hygiene: i think the main issue that has folks so heated in this debate is the automatic assumption that your cleanliness or dirtiness says something big about you as a whole person, when in reality it’s just a temporary state your body happens to be in due to existing. we will all stink at some point, it is inevitable lmao. so it’s best to not get twisted up about it and just do your best with what you have available. the “coming home from the club” scenario stood out to me because i feel like neither opinions are worth getting all that upset about? like yeah sometimes people are too physically exhausted to clean up right after big events. is it gross? yes. does it mean that person is always unsanitary and should be given a value judgement? no. life happens, shit happens. luckily most of us have access to running water lmao.

[@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar]

I mean unless you’re cremated then you will not rot and you’ll always smell like ashes

[@Bully_Biscuit]

@@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazarI don’t think ashes smell good.

[@lug358]

​@@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar the cremation process smells. We still have flesh, fat, etc that stinks y'all.

[@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar]

@@lug358 obviously I meant after the cremation process not while you’re being cremated, obviously is gonna smell you’re body is literally being burnt to ashes

[@TheNwr1]

I have to wonder if these people have ever been camping? Like…have they ever been, like, unable to shower at the time they want to? Had a 12-hour shift? Been on a long flight? I just don’t understand how someone can put so much emphasis on cleanliness that they think it says all they need to know about a person…though I guess I find it odd to think any one trait says it all about a person….anyway, just, wash regularly, don’t expect to be clean all the time, blah blah blah etc etc

[@Bella-cs1hn]

as someone with severe contamination ocd i see myself in so many of these "trends" and I don't think people realize how dangerous these habits can be. it took YEARS and so much work for me to unlearn so many of these habits. its harmless until it isn't.

[@anny8720]

I had "mild" contamination ocd from covid and it also took me 3 years of college to be comfortable not wiping my laptop before taking it out my bag to use it in bed, which paired with the adhd and depression meant homework didn't get done because I didn't want to do the wiping. Feeling like I had to change clothes everytime I left and reentered the house or drove also kept me a hermit. It's definitely crippling and I didn't even realize it was ocd until this year.

[@calystynn504]

this!!! i picked up little habits thinking "well these arent gonna hurt, im just sanitizing a little" and now i cant even touch my fridge without gloves or paper towels lol (yes i have ocd too TvT)

[@Pumpkin_Parker]

​@@anny8720I'm so sorry you went through that but holy crap is it validating to hear there's another person who had the same habits as me

[@YearOnACloud]

@@anny8720 You just described some of the ocd habits I have now. It's so bad..

[@staeriix]

exactly. these kind of videos hit way too close to home and just reminded me of the worst times of my life 😭

[@swiftlyaswiftie]

This contributes heavily to overconsumption, mental health stigma and maybe some classism. Those are some blanket statements but it's hard not to see it like that when people on TikTok with rich homes and judging you for not having the time, energy or money to be 'pure' and 'clean'. It just reminds me how the upperclass viewed themselves as above others because they get the privilege to buy 10 self care products or are able to deep clean their house monthly as they don't work

[@SemekiIzuio]

Its definitely overconsumption, they be advertising what to buy and sponsoring whatever they are using. And you're right about the classism too. Reminds me of those random people who go into a fast food to clean the restrooms or work at a dollar tree for free. Its like look at me doing a good deed while the workers aren't doing anything.

[@kisslat6r]

I'm allergic to one of the main ingredients in soap, which honestly is not a very uncommon allergy. Cocamidopropyl Betaine will be found in basically every liquid soap and shampoo and can also be found in lotions, sunscreen, toothpaste, and other toiletries. It makes me break out and have huge rashes, so its more harmful for my health to be using so many products because if anything that stays on my skin has Coca, it will make me react. There's very very few soaps that don't have Coca so yes I do shower but the idea of having a whole "skincare routine" is impossible for me.

[@bumblebee4280]

​@@kisslat6rHave you tried imperial leather? Check the ingredients list first. I don't think it has coca, but please confirm. Petroleum jelly doesn't have coca. You can also screen baby lotions for those that don't have coca. You too can have a pamper routine. You may have to avoid face cleansers and just use soap, but it's the actions that matter, not the products.

[@mobstercrow7515]

Mental health SIGMA Also, I am a disabled person that lives off of 930 dollars every month. I deep clean my house every week because I have a lot of pets. You don't need a lot of products, I just use water, vinegar, lemon juice, baking soda, and lavender essential oil. I don't have anything fancy but it gets the job done! I don't own a mop or a fancy vacuum, I have a tiny vacuum that I have to empty 3 or 4 times while using. I get on my hands and knees and "mop" the floor with wet rags and a vinegar and water solution. I don't even own a duster so I just wipe everything down with a damp cloth. I'm getting my first job at the library when they are hiring and I may volunteer before then. I'm going to college with my service dog next year, wish me luck!

[@JannatHerzallah]

You just need soap and dry yourself well you dont need to be rich to have hygiëne

[@solarmoth4628]

7:08 I do think hotel rooms are dirty but that’s because hotel rooms don’t give the cleaning staff nearly enough time to clean the rooms.

[@graeson3317]

My aunt has worked at a hotel for like 18 years. The places you really have to worry about are the coffee machine, remote and lamps. They rarely get cleaned correctly. Everything else is at least sprayed with some sort of disinfectant.

[@BBBB-nd8pl]

Exactumundo. They only get paid $12-14 an hour to to bust their behind cleaning what they can

[@bewwie9067]

I've worked in housekeeping at two different hotels over the summer, and I came out of it paranoid. I'd say, bring disinfectant spray and re-wash any cups you are provided yourself. As a cleaner are given a big list of rooms to complete by [x] hour, with maximum 25 minutes/room, in both hotels I have worked at (this caused me to quit both) there was no humanly possible way to complete the number of rooms in time. This is where cutting corners comes in, the "fancier" of the hotels I worked at, everybody wiped what they could with USED towels left behind by the previous customer, stuff like shower glass and floors, because it was less time consuming then the shitty streaky wash cloths that made more work for you than helped. That was the city-center "business" classy hotel, the 2nd one I worked at there was shit in the shower on my first day, do NOT trust hotel cleanliness but do not blame the staff.

[@anny8720]

⁠​⁠@@bewwie9067 well damn I'm glad I was lazy and got into the habit of just cupping my hands to rinse after brushing instead of using cups

[@benenwren4110]

We had an experience where we went to a hotel we had visited before and it clearly hadn't been cleaned properly this time. Looked like someone had been in a rush and only got around to cleaning the most important areas. We asked to be moved but the entire floor was that way. I felt so bad for the employee that was trying to help us lol. He was really thankful that we weren't mad at him.

[@DeidresStuff]

I swear I was the only kid in the 80s who got taught that people looking different and having different skin was normal. My mom would have popped me in the mouth if I refused to swim with Black people.

[@eeeEEEeeeEEEEEE-eeeeeee]

Your mom is a good mom

[@FatallyParasocial]

Based mother

[@Starjellybear]

W mom

[@Vesperad0]

I unfortunately cannot say the same, much like other people. While my mom/parents weren't incredibly directly racist, or just stupid, I still grew up having to hear "cleanliness is next to godliness" whenever I was going through a severe depression. As a pre-teen to teenager, which is again unfortunately not uncommon anymore. To this day she's still confused why I act and think the way I do. I'm not perfect, my initial thoughts sometimes reflect her words, but I don't exactly intend to repeat her weird microaggressions against people from the Caribbean specifically...as an afro-latino/indigenous person. Literally has no value, and high-key implying any darker skinned person that isn't conveniently from our background is akin to the devil.

[@heath6802]

It does warm my heart and break it right after to have learned my grandmother’s home was the only in my mom’s tiny neighborhood that would let black kids come over to play and for dinner. Likewise, my mom and her brother also stuck out when they’d go to the friends’ homes. The 60’s were a very different era it seems, as shit as an excuse that it is My mom describes her childhood friends so fondly, so it breaks my heart how many good times were lost by other families not giving kids a chance.

[@difficultfrequency]

studying to be a dentist here. i PROMISE you do not need to clean your teeth for 30 mins to be clean. brush, floss, MAYBE mouthwash or a tongue scraper if you want to be extra, but that takes 5 minutes. there is such thing as overbrushing, and it may cause extra sensitivity or pain 💗

[@vvs9992003]

Like that person’s gums must be receding 😩

[@jackiemason3607]

The most extra i do is a waterpik at night its my flossing for me with my carpal tunnel 😂😂

[@zvezdoblyat]

My question is how do people brush their teeth for 2 minutes? Even if I'm rushing, it takes 20 minutes if I'm brushing, flossing, and cleaning my tongue. If I'm not rushing, it takes 30 minutes 😭

[@warmekip]

@@zvezdoblyattf how on earth does it take you that long

[@zvezdoblyat]

@@warmekip yeah, I don't even know.

[@knivspit]

as someone who doesn’t have the best mental health, some days i don’t want to get out of bed let alone shower everyday. i don’t leave the house for days on end there is literally no need. changing your undies and baby wipes are your best friends when you’re not having a good day.

[@Duhgel]

yep

[@sm96798]

Yes, and Panty liners help too!

[@grimtheghastly8878]

This!!! I've been trying to make it a habit to shower at least once in the morning every day since I work with kids so cleanliness is a concern, but sometimes the executive function and and energy is just not there, so at most I wash my face and privates and use lots of deodorant and try to stay hydrated so i don't sweat too much

[@rougesunset]

If ANYONE is contaminating a pool it’s gonna be a 5 year old who pisses in it without a second thought 💀

[@ryanpooley]

I think washing groceries probably came from cxvid, probably just a habit that stuck with some people 😬

[@djreems8813]

Yeah my family did that during the worst of cxvid, and ig some people couldn't go back

[@mggardiner4066]

Could also be people with that type of OCD expression or other issue that realized they can market it

[@madlie2452]

I have contamination ocd. It’s entirely unmotivated by Covid as it started once I got my own apartment this past year and made groceries on my own for the first time. I don’t think that’s extreme tbh though.

[@obokengm788]

Heat kills germs 😅 it'll be fine

[@josukeavocado]

I don’t think it’s bad to clean groceries, I do it all the time :]

[@LACHRYMA]

love how you make the same "done with this shit" look in the thumbnail of every single one of your videos 10/10 amazing cant get enough of it

[@potatopotayto8332]

agreed it's like a very funny stock photo collection (/pos)

[@victoriahope8371]

Sassy ❤

[@sheatemyheartt]

I'm gonna be so honest, I bathe/shower every other or the 2nd day after usually. It takes me a super long time to do things since I have ADHD and OCD. Anyways, people who are judgy if you are literally like, clean ENOUGH, are so annoying. As long as you aren't literally bothersome because of your hyenine, it really doesn't matter if you're perfectly fine and not literally stanky. That reminds me, I SAW SOMEONE SAY they won't wash their face with ANYTHING that has touched their face ONCE. ONCE. Like, the reusable towel won't kill you I promise 😭

[@lilymoody4195]

Same, I saw people using disposable face towels because regular washcloths collect bacteria. Like, do people not know what a washer is 😭😭😭

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

@@lilymoody4195I tried that and my face always had soap on it I’ll stick with my hand & washcloth

[@wooogie672]

iirc, showering every other or every 2nd day is better for your hair and skin compared to showering every day. i also have ADHD, and i only shower every day because if i don’t lock tf in, i’ll slip back into my habit of showering once a week 💀 also it really depends on the climate you live in, your skin and hair type to know how often you should be bathing yk? don’t let anyone shame you for not showering every day because it’s hard af out here while being mentally ill/nd and imo, what you do is perfectly reasonable!

[@maemadl54]

I shower every other day too. Plus my hair is curly so the process of re-applying products and styling my hair every time it gets wet takes wayyy to long to do it every single day

[@madlie2452]

@@maemadl54you shouldn’t be washing your hair every time you shower.

[@cephalo.]

Another point I want to talk about is the sudden rise of people on social media talking about their 10 step skincare morning routines & night routines. Like why are we all of a sudden saying that you NEED to use antibacterial soaps all the time, you NEED to oil pull for your teeth to look good, you NEED to do this and that. It makes me feel like I need to step up my game but I also remember most of these people have money to play w/ and then I calm down😭

[@Vesperad0]

Honestly those multi step routines are either doing more harm than good, or they aren't doing anything at all. I wouldn't bother with it, especially since it mainly seems to be focused around having unnatural "glowing skin" and trying to imitate vampires by being young forever. Aging is inevitable no matter how many products or surgeries someone gets, and also I'd say in general actual cleanliness within your capabilities (cost, access, disability) matters more than surface level appearances. It may feel like to feel pretty, but it's nicer to be kind to your body.

[@eg4441]

maintaining whatever ideal of beauty is important to many. and there's this collector aspect to it, like how people collect crystals/minerals, figurines, etc. instead it's throwing various substances on your skin that come in neat bottles and such

[@eidola1610]

Most dermatologists recommend a minimal skincare routine anyways because if you do too much, it doesn’t work or literally harms you. These people are wild. They don’t need to be spending all of that money, and neither does anyone else

[@mimsycookiiess]

Omg w pfp!!

[@Angel-gg3zp]

The consumerism is so gross too.... "RUN, don't walk to the drug store! XYZ launched a NEW product!! This $50 cream (30ml) is my holy grail!!! It fixed ALLLLL of my skin issues and it's lidurally a ticket to go to heaven!!!!! Go get it, even though it might not even work for your skin!!!!! Go get this eyeshadow palette, the PACKAGING is sooooo 🌟✨️𝐚𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜✨️!! YOU NEED THIS!" Like holy shi calm DOWN

[@neverxnice3577]

Most painful hygiene olympic "losses" i had, was when someone posted me to their story saying my described shower routine clearly wasn't strong enough, because my neck was "dirty". I have vitiligo under my ear, between my jaw and hairline, which makes it look as though i had sweat dirt off, but in reality it is nearly translucent skin which could pose difficulties for me in life.

[@taylorreads]

i have contamination ocd and some of these even got me side eyeing lmaoo😭

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665]

This has been bothering me for quite a while and it’s definitely very present on TikTok. This can also lead to really bad misinformation like telling people to wash their kitty with soap… yikes

[@raylayaaaa]

No there was never misinformation you are still supposed to clean around it but we never said putting soap up there.

[@hellohaveagoodday]

​@@raylayaaaalmao yes there was tho

[@Vesperad0]

​@@raylayaaaayeah, no. No, tons of people said it. I mean even if there was plausible deniability for the 1900s where bleach was being advertised as a good soap to use, it still counted as misinformation. Same as today with companies convincing people, particularly my younger self, that a vagina needed to smell like stereotypical feminine scents or else you were disgusting. Not to mention, as they said, the soap and even perfumes. In fact what we call the female body is often subject to misinformation and lies and bs, something everybody who has one is incredibly aware of. Whether it be hygiene or anatomy or sex ed, the vagina and other parts are associated with mystery and confusion purely through the "woman" label attached. Because, y'know, "woman = too hard to understand" not a comment against you to be clear, just a frustration in general

[@mustanggox]

my dumbass thought u were referring to ur literal pet cat. but anyway they spread the same misinfo for assholes

[@terejosh13]

​@@mustanggox😂

[@aalmostdigital]

whats the point of showering 5 times a day you dont get more clean everytime you shower all ur doing is wasting time ur already clean 😭

[@Duhgel]

Wasting time irritating their skin. Some people really have no hope when the body tells them exactly what they needa do and when.

[@CornflowerBlue10]

Also wasting water! So much wasted water

[@kernel-pult]

ppl act like your body should be sanitary, there's so much misconception about hygeine and bacteria on our bodies. showering does not sanitise you and it's good that it doesn't - the function of showering is to remove excess sweat, oil and skin which no one would ever need to do more than once per day (if you have a very active lifestyle at that)

[@Beerambling]

I feel like people don't understand that everyone's body is different and that is crazy. Just because their skin can handle five showers doesn't mean everyone can, Some people have sensitive skin or skin conditions, I have eczema and I shower every other day bc I can't sweat too much without it flaring up but its also why I can't shower every day. Types of hair can also affect how many times someone takes a shower, If they have oily hair they usually shower more times than people who don't have oily hair. And the ones who don't have oily hair if they shower as much as one with oily hair it will dry their hair out real quick. People aren't just talking out of their arses when they say nobody's body is the same, They meant it and it's crazy if you think it's just an excuse.

[@Beerambling]

@@LostSoulchild89 I doubt anyones skin is happy after that, But i guess it would really depend if the person was actually doing the same shower routine each time or not.

[@Vesperad0]

Nonono, you misunderstand. They know people's bodies are massively different from hygiene purposes to what would be a healthy weight for them...they just don't care. Because why would they, if they can use these differences as something to fear, therefore something to fix? And of course, being something people have to fix like hair tighter than waves or "excessive" freckles or dark eyes or dark skin or uneven skin coloring or stretch marks or the mere existence of a period, you can easily fix it all with consumerism!! Buy buy buy, and you'll never look human again! That is, if you're willing to spend money on products that low-key cause more harm than good instead of food and other basic necessities...

[@KlearlyIMme]

Also like East Asians I think don’t rlly sweat it’s why getting anti perspirant there is tough you gotta have it shipped from another country Not don’t sweat but the bacteria doesn’t cause stink

[@anny8720]

@@KlearlyIMme I'm east asian and you're correct most of us have a dysfunction of the gene that produces the oil that bacteria eat to cause the stinky smell, body odor was never something I observed from my mom growing up and she doesn't use deodorant. Me personally my left pit can have a minor stink but my right gets absolutely nothing, so I don't think it means always 0% smell but usually a low amount or the smell comes from something else (mouth or food)

[@jfm14]

​@@anny8720 Interesting, I never knew that!

[@abbiemarie38]

I also hate when people throw around the term hoarding loosly. Its not a joke, as someone who grew up in a hoarder house, its quite literally traumatic

[@draalttom844]

I mean I grew up in one and is perfectly okay with it and going to help other oarders clean their homes, but yeah a littlw mess aint it, its piles and piles and unusable rooms

[@voodoochile4147]

I’m sorry this happened to you. Hope you’re healing ❤️‍🩹

[@sophsbody]

I remember my mom would always call me a hoarder as a teen because I had a depression room. I was at the lowest point in my life and all she could was crack jokes. I had weeks-months worth of dishes covered in different types of mold, flies and maggots in my room, garbage everywhere, clothes everywhere, and mountains of junk on the floor. My room was like that not because I wanted it to be, or had trouble letting stuff go, but because I stopped caring about myself and everything around me. I had lost the motivation to keep my room clean as much as I enjoyed having a clean room. You’re very right, the word hoarder should NEVER be thrown around loosely. It still bothers me to this day.

[@fattie_ex]

From Shane Dawson STANK to scrubbing our bodies away 😭

[@CornflowerBlue10]

the two genders 🥰

[@MM-qy1tl]

not “a second plane has hit the video” LMAOOO

[@JasmineNorman2007]

"Americans don't...like that..." 😭

[@sweatyskeleton7390]

Playing devil's advocate on the cheese thing: Pre-shredded cheese is covered in starch to keep it from sticking together. If you use starched cheese, it can give melted cheese sauces a weird texture. However, if you're going to put in the effort to wash cheese, you might as well just buy a block and shred it

[@LACHRYMA]

i actually GASPED eyes WIDE when i saw her use her GORILLA GRIPPER UPRIGHT SAPIEN 3000 BCs to touch the pedestrian light thingy

[@yagirlzee]

absolutely foul 😭 i reacted the same way

[@thankyoutaylor12]

Omg me too! Pissed me off. Hilarious comment tho😂

[@mobstercrow7515]

I have a service dog that is trained to press buttons for me. Sometimes I have my hands full because he is in training. I always have a treat in my hand and my bag so I can't always press the buttons. I'm very frail and weak so I can't open the doors manually sadly.. Also, it could be a bit dangerous if I pressed the buttons with my fish dog treat covered hands, I don't want to accidentally kill someone with an allergy.

[@twotruckslyrics]

im so tired i thought this was gonna be about that lady who used gorilla glue in her hair

[@LACHRYMA]

@@twotruckslyrics HELPPP

[@katsikatra]

I wash enough to not smell. How often that may be is my business.

[@mimsycookiiess]

‼️

[@NauticalTurtle]

people are losing the understanding of "personal business"

[@bee1411]

Haven’t even watched this yet but like- THANK YOU! I’m autistic, I struggle with hygiene. Watching all these crazy steps people put into personal hygiene honestly makes it even harder for me to keep up with it. :( I often feel gross for only washing my hair once a week. But like- many folks do that. Sensory issues are not something I control. I’m not a nasty ass b* because I don’t have five thousand body scrubs in my shower. Also! Your hair is so cuteee!

[@rosaliehawthorn]

I totally relate to this! The only reason I bathe as often as I do (2 times a day) is because I'm very sensitive to the sensation of sweat. So if I sweat, even the tiniest bit, I have to have a bath or I'm going to have a mental breakdown over how gross I feel. It's kinda like the same sensation of clothes that just aren't right. Other than that, my hygiene is bare-bones. Wash my hair once a week then braid it and leave it. Wash my face like once a month. Because doing those things zaps my energy (while bathing gives me energy). I'm always astonished when I see people with these 3+ step skincare routines because how?????? That's SO MUCH. Even just having a bath scrub, body wash, body lotion routine is wild to me. There are already so many steps in just making sure you're not smelly, your hair isn't matted, and your teeth don't have a week of plaque on them that doing much more than that seems so crazy to me. I can't imagine the energy and time it'd take.

[@bee1411]

@@rosaliehawthorn Right?? Like spoons are so hard to come by sometimes! I can’t imagine using like- four on just skin care! 🤣

[@madlie2452]

It’s actually good for your hair to not wash it more than once or twice awhile week, so don’t feel bad 🩵

[@prettyrat.]

@@rosaliehawthorn when you say you wash your face once a month, do you mean do all the steps w the skincare and stuff once a month? or soap and water your face once a month??? do you skip washing your face while you’re in the tub?? i’m not trying to judge you or anything, i’m just confused.

[@rosaliehawthorn]

I've recently started starting washing my face daily, but it took me years of really hard work to get there. Before, I'd do it in the shower when I washed by hair which has varied from once a week (now) to once every few months (my early teens). Executive (dys)function makes "simple" things impossibly huge and difficult. To Explain: Hygiene is very complicated. And it's hell with executive function issues. A main part of executive function is struggling with planning, organization, the perseverance needed to see a plan to the end, and the self-awareness to understand why you need to do it. Struggling to plan: Figuring what steps that have to happen is... stupidly hard. It doesn't come naturally. Brushing teeth isn't just brushing teeth. It's picking up the brush. Picking up the toothpaste. Removing the lid. Putting toothpaste on the brush. Rinsing it. Brushing the teeth. Making sure you get every area. Spitting out the toothpaste. Rinsing the mouth. Putting the toothpaste back. Putting the brush back. And every step is just as huge and impossible to tackle as the last. It takes considerable effort to remember each step and in what order. Organizing that information into a plan: Like, yes, I know I need to wash my face, but when? What are the steps? Do I do it before I wash my body, or after? How do I move my hands? Keeping the perseverance: I know I have to do this stuff to wash my face. I rinse my face. I get the wash in my hand, then sit there, waiting, thinking. Should I keep going? Is there any real reason why I need to this now? I've already done plenty I can just stop. I did it yesterday. What harm could missing one day do? I'm just so tired and exhausted, I can just Not Do It. And it's a fight to get myself back into the headspace to continue. The self-awareness needed: Yeah, I get I should wash my face, but WHY? It'll get rid of dirt and oil. But... why? Why should I care about removing the dirt and oil? Because it'll make my skin healthier. Why should I care about having healthy skin? Because then I'll have less pimples and a more even complexion. Why should I care about that? And that's constant, endless loop with everything. And that's not even to delve into sensory issues. The feeling of the toothbrush against my teeth makes me want to punch something and pull out my hair at the roots. The feeling of wet hair on my back makes is so excruciating, like I got shocked, and I can't help but panic and cry. Water on my face feels like pins and needles and it's just so painful and uncomfortable and like I'm suffocating and I would peel my skin off just to get away from that horrid sensation. It takes so much hard work and dedication to get past those things and work through them. I couldn't even put my ears under water until I was 8 because the feeling was so disgusting and horrifying to me.

[@nia356]

19:00 no because you're right. not completely hygiene related? but I've noticed after covid more people are forgetting to cover their mouth when they cough? I don't know if it's just my area but the amount of times i've seen people straight up cough into the air is a lot more than before.

[@anahnnemus5187]

I didn't expect to see one of my biggest pet peeves here, lol. I've noticed it too and it grosses me out so bad. I just think about the particles in the air and try to avoid the area if possible.

[@Vesperad0]

No offense to kids, but that feels like a thing exclusive to children. Are some people not taught to sneeze into their elbow, or cover their mouth? ...or is it just "anti-mask" brain rot that has made some people really nasty? The only "anti-mask" agenda people should be supporting is for ND people, like why do we shame the person stimming harmlessly and not the people intentionally or not coughing into the air like babies?

[@PuffiKartoffel]

I went on a vacation with a friend recently and actually had to ask her to cover her mouth while coughing the nastiest cough ever bc it was making me really uncomfortable to sleep in the same bed as her while she was spewing everywhere. I think people got used to having the mask as a cover and then we got rid of the masks but many didn't start covering their mouths again

[@eblake7495]

no so something really funny about the 3-4 minute shower is that i grew up in a rural area, so we had our own well and had to conserve water! i personally lover taking a long shower, but dude. that 3-4 minutes came up?? my dad would be KNOCKIN AT THE BATHROOM DOOR "nearing on 5 minutes, kid!" And, so, not only that! but my parents (and grandparents!!) would be all "you use more than 5 squares everytime you go to the bathroom? you only need 2 - 3 max!" dude. no way am i going to max out at 2-3 squares? if i feel dirty im wiping that shit up??? literally. anyway.... rural aspect lmao

[@stylesalvation]

This!! I’m from Australia and we had a drought so I can clean myself in 4 minutes, shampoo conditioner and all 😅

[@adrih8694]

my parents tried to convince me as a kid that I only needed ONE square. I'm pretty sure I started to use more after that comment. it wasn't even a family thing, because I could see when they forgot to flush that they used plenty. they just wanted a nasty shit child ig

[@AK-rx8gp]

I live in NZ and every so often we get those ads telling us to not shower for more than 4-5 minutes

[@BOATNEXTDOOR]

The one about not showering after the club is kinda like idk. Because if you’re drunk asf then you’re not gonna be able to do all that most likely. I think that could be a reason that a lot of people were mad too

[@chappytts5977]

Also, nobody should be encouraging people to shower when they’re drunk just from a safety perspective. People can and have d1ed from slipping or passing out in the shower.

[@EnbyGaemer2005]

Yeah if you're so drunk you can't safely shower, just sleep But you probably want to wash your sheets when you get up.

[@unordinary_artist]

Thank you for cleansing us in the beginning wurld, I needed a good cleanse. Also I finally watched smiling friends and now I understand all the references made. Have a great day

[@Lildeadthing420]

Hearing you and intelexual media talking about how its rooted in slavery made so much sense

[@cherishoneal9108]

I peeped that too

[@TigerTT]

There's a reason why whole body deodorant ads are becoming a trend these days lmao.

[@DustyHoney]

I think full body deodorant is lowkey a harmful idea because if your junk smells so bad you need deodorant that’s probably a sign that something is wrong, not something you should just hide with deodorant. Like maybe also see a doctor

[@caiden3396]

I walk on grass barefoot, pet goats, don't use shampoo aside from the occassional yogurt or coconut milk hair mask, eat the dirt on my potatoes, deodorize with salt, and don't shower with soap, using a risk based or targeted approach to hygiene instead (e.g. washing my hands after taking a dump). Anyone want me to go touch those people?

[@dinoboy83]

@@caiden3396this is how I live too, except I do be washing my hair due to sensory issues with greasy hair. But yeah, and I’ve never been seriously sick. Immune build up is no joke

[@bettydraper2034]

WHOLE BODY DEODORANT???? the only time i ever put deodorant on any other part of my body is anti perspirant under boobs when i go braless on hot days! and deodorant feels surprisingly harsh and uncomfortable on body parts other than ur pits

[@mobstercrow7515]

If your body stanks, SHOWER

[@wooogie672]

i NEEEED ppl to understand that “washing” chicken is almost completely a cultural thing than a cleanliness thing. like if you’re worried about all the slimy shit that comes on raw chicken, just using paper towels will suffice i PROMISE

[@sumlem]

"washing" chicken has been disproven many times because of the risk of spreading more bacteria. I've seen people go through the steps of washing their meat and then bleaching their surfaces.

[@wooogie672]

@@sumlem right! and then ppl who “wash” their chicken say we don’t clean our kitchen when… if we don’t “wash” our chicken, we wouldn’t need to bleach clean our kitchen…

[@Vesperad0]

Not sure if my memory is adding stuff when it doesn't need to, but that reminds me of that one person who heard asian people (generally) wash their rice...and proceeded to drop all common sense by washing it with soap and water.

[@mundanea1]

@@sumlemThat makes sense since chicken juices are bouncing off. Still, that goop really makes me want to give it a little rinse. 😅

[@LethalLemonLime]

​​@@Vesperad0That's because wash implies clean. They rinse rice and it's to get the starch or whatever off. I forgot exactly why but try putting unwashed rice into a rice cooker and you'll see why you need to rinse it lol.

[@des-abld]

That person who showers after they use the bathroom probably just needs a bidet. I get what their thought process is though.

[@Sha-1]

I'm one of those people and I feel like bidet is a little more awkward (harder to control, I mean) to use than just taking a quick shower.

[@lancerenato7698]

​@Sha-1 how many times do u go in a day that that's genuinely feasible 😭

[@Sha-1]

​@@lancerenato7698 uhhhhhhh are you sure having to go take a dump more than once a day is a norm??? Obviously no one uses bidet/shower after just peeing

[@lancerenato7698]

@@Sha-1... it's considered healthy/normal to poop 3x a day

[@lancerenato7698]

@Sha-1 it's a big range that depends on the person so 3x a week can be acceptable for some people but Most people are gonna be goin between 2-3x a day. I need to shower after waking up or ill just feel gross and same after work, 1000% Cannot add a shower for each poop lmao

[@manyyoumas]

i knew that the hygiene olympics were a thing, but i don't have tiktok or twitter (so sometimes i live under a rock with certain things) but i'm just stunned at how excessive this stuff is??? for me personally, five showers a day is absolutely wild, not to mention the sheer water waste??? not all of us have a metric shitton of dollars to spend on the water bills and unneeded beauty products man lmao

[@mundanea1]

Oh, the wash hands thing. I don’t understand how people don’t. 😭 After college, I lived with my grandparents’ and then later my father’s ex-wife’s place for about 6 months each. I swear NONE of them wash their hands! My grandma might? But the other three people in her house? No way. My father came out of the bathroom and was confused at me telling him to wash his hands. Then, all he did was rinse them for half a sec and tell me he didn’t touch anything! Then there’s the ex-wife who sometimes doesn’t even bother to close the door. 😭 I’m moving on the 15th, I’ll finally be free.

[@Duhgel]

Ew, no boundaries folks who don't close the damn door

[@mundanea1]

@@Duhgel Exactly! Sure, you don’t have to lock it like me, but at least TRY to close it. I don’t want to hear your stream in HD.

[@thankyoutaylor12]

Congrats!!

[@kaycampbell2177]

My family also does not believe in washing their hands. It’s WILD to me!

[@mundanea1]

@@thankyoutaylor12 Thanks! 💛

[@Man-ej6uv]

i'm currently in the hospital post emergency surgery and three days without a shower. feeling very gross. this topic is of interest to me, i do wonder how disability affects this topic.

[@WURLDSTAR]

i hope your surgery went well!

[@silly.gr3mlin]

me, a stinky and sweaty gal rn, watching this while on my lunch break

[@Calabazaza]

9:43 I used to live in Durban, South Africa as a wee 6 year old, and there, it’s completely normal to go everywhere barefoot. I even went to school barefoot as a kid. But in the cold is pushing it. It’s literally snowing. Your feet are gonna fall off from FROST BITE !! Anyways, I do agree with what those people are saying as walking barefoot can make your feet develop better as a kid but it’s also good to keep in mind how you’re making others uncomfortable by doing that

[@Vesperad0]

I don't know which European country it was or if it was multiple, but I remember learning about a type of shoe made for kids and adults with a wide toe end to account for the normal way feet develop, outside of our restricting shoes. Honestly, somebody should just make a shoe that doesn't show the underside but lets your flare the toes. Knowing our feet are somewhat compressed by shoes now makes me incredibly uncomfortable when I'm wearing them lol

[@graeson3317]

The problem is in the states it is not just a social norm it's a safety thing. Walking outside especially in cities exposes you to nails, glass, and bacteria and disease. It's completely normal to walk barefoot on your own property. As a kid I ran around barefoot everywhere except in stores and roads because of the amount of random broken glass there was.

[@peiithos]

​@@graeson3317theres also biohazards on the ground. like used needles

[@sunnybugz]

honestly just wash ur feet and ur prob good, its not safe where i live bc of needles and glass but i do LOVE to stand in the grass barefoot

[@Sing_A_Rebel_Song]

Listen, me and my mom both have really bad ocd (both of us are diagnosed and I’m also autistic) and for us it mainly manifests in everything being clean and perfect (again, we are diagnosed. Yes, the stereotype applies to some people) mainly because things not being organized makes us very overstimulated and cleaning and organization is a massive stress relief for us. The difference between us and the TikTok neat freaks is that for us (and most of the population) it’s not performative. I’ve seen so many of these tiktokers use ocd as a reason and that’s upsetting because (even if they have ocd) they’re just adding to the stereotype and cause people to discount those who’s ocd manifests in a hyper organized way. Hence why I kept saying that we’re diagnosed. People don’t believe mine and my mom’s diagnosis because it’s so stereotypical

[@vvitch-mist20]

I hate how people view cleanliness, like sure some people do need genuine help, but like as long as your body is clean and healthy it doesn't really matter what you do specifically to get there. People also forget poverty is a thing and being poor severely impacts how clean your space is. 8:49 If I'm EVER within ear shot of either of these people I will absolutely as loudly as I can go "Having a child is hard, but there is nothing better than a clean, and happy child. I love giving my daughter a bath every night. It's a smash the Kutchers can't be bothered." also if they were black those kids would have been taken, but you know white parents are just ~qUiRkY~ 19:27 People can't accept their period is unsanitary and gross, like I'm cheeks spread in the shower letting it all come out. Like I feel 100% better after a shower on my period.

[@solarmoth4628]

I’d argue it’s because they think it’s unsanitary and gross that they’d shower with a tampon in. They don’t like the idea of period blood dripping down their legs in the shower. I don’t think periods are gross, but I still love to shower on my period because it’s uncomfortable otherwise.

[@Ri57490]

As long as a person regularly washes their hands with soap and water, all is good. Long nails are unhygienic because they trap bacteria, yet people don't talk about it enough. Hand hygiene is the most important because hands are what we use to physically communicate with the world.

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@Ri57490 I have long nails and never have a problem with dirt because I wash my hands all the time lol. I spend an extra 30 seconds getting under my nails, and if I see dirt I immediately wash it off. But people don't think their hands are dirty because they don't look dirty, which is super strange since Double Dipping is frowned upon

[@starstorm1267]

I wouldn’t call periods gross, because that’s just further stigmatizing something that’s natural and uncontrollable for women. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t wash while on your period either, because that can lead to rashes and possibly infections. I know I have to wash while on my period unless I want to deal with horrible rashes for the next few days.

[@doll.ov.poetrii4682]

​@@starstorm1267 I'm a woman and periods are absolutely gross. It's natural, and so is spit, defecation, urination, and boogers and they're all gross. Nothing wrong with being honest that blood coming out of just about anything is unpleasant.

[@realSimoneCherie]

i feel like this also manifests with people calling everything gross - considering anything unmanicured, or unattractive to be gross… and now it’s a way for people to feel self important and it’s self righteous

[@beanwithwifi3982]

Ok I’m a huge clean freak who needs to shower everyday or I’ll feel disgusting (and also because my hair gets oily fast lol) but SHOWERING FIVE TIMES A DAY???? WASHING GROCERIES?????

[@Spacingout3000]

Same, I’m really paranoid abt showering, plus I sweat in my sleep so if I don’t shower before bed I’ll literally feel itchy and disgusting 😭 but fr tho, who tf is taking showers 5 times a day..shower take like 40-50 mins for me so doing that 5 TIMES A DAY IS BONKERS. The groceries thing is only valid wit fruit, otherwise if ur washing a fuckin mayonnaise jar than I’m absolutely flabbergasted 😭😭

[@meratra2678]

@@Spacingout3000 ong ☠ and same lmao

[@theGhostWolfe]

Washing your hair daily will actually make it more oily, but it takes _months_ to wean your hair back off daily washing and it’s probably not worth it unless you suddenly find yourself long-term unemployed and can afford to have super greasy hair for ages.

[@hellolily7722]

dude showering everyday does not make u a clean freak it's normal. every human pees every day and most poo everyday.. for those reasons it's NORMAL and encouraged to shower lol.

[@Muffinn_Cakes]

I don't get how people don't consider groceries gross? You and other people touch them. I don't want other people's germs, and I don't want to risk getting any kind of sick. My family always wipe off the groceries before putting them away. We've done this for years, even pre-covid.

[@primalmagikarp269]

2:47 true! i see a lot of tourists make this mistake when they come to america, it's actually a major taboo to fly planes into buildings in American culture

[@kristofkramar-hendrickson9474]

listen, truthfully i live around and used to work around aloooot of people who are fully unable to be clean at all. i struggle myself due to lots of mental health issues. if someones stinky, put ur mask on and move on. go home and be happy u get to be clean. i dont care what someone esle thinks is "the right way to be clean" we smell, we're humans, get over it. the people who do have the ability to be clean tho but boast about how fun it is to be disgusting, is defs weird tho. dont get that one. probly something to do with privilege cuz theyre white and wealthy ig.

[@user-kx5en8dg7u]

idk, i dont really agree with that. yes being clean is a privilege, and i am aware ppl struggle with mental health, i have as well. but i feel like even if you struggle with that, please at least make the effort to like wipe your pits and crotch down with a washcloth in the sink or something before going outside

[@Vesperad0]

​@@user-kx5en8dg7uuh, I get you're aware of mental illness, but sometimes... it's not that simple. I mean it hardly is that simple. Do depressed people, and I'm mainly thinking younger people/teens without jobs since that's me, go outside often? Maybe I'm projecting but I don't think depressed people head outside all that often, especially if they live alone or if they're ND/disabled as well. If anything the people who don't smell great probably don't have the time/access to water, or they genuinely don't smell themselves. Or another possibility I just thought of, maybe they aren't exactly in the safest environment to be clean, unfortunately. Yes the stink can suck. I've been on both ends, thankfully in my own home, but again you don't know what someone's going through. It's a lot easier to say you get it and not, looking at someone who is literally incapable of taking a shower due to something like autism/ADHD or severe depression, actually get it. There's certainly been some progress but I feel we still have far more to work through if we want to destigmatize mental illnesses, and the wringer it puts people through. Sometimes that effort is spent on making sure they eat for the day (recently I've been going days without eating until 11 at night), or that they make it to work on time, or managing to brush their teeth. It may suck for the external party, but I can assure you it sucks more knowing you physically can wash your body, but the thing that makes your body move refuses to act on it.

[@user-kx5en8dg7u]

@@Vesperad0 i'm aware of all of that. that's why i suggested the literal bare minimum of wiping your armpits and crotch. i also struggle with taking full showers when depressed but it's a compromise i learned in therapy that works. honestly part of the treatment of depression is still to force yourself to do *something*, even if it's not completely up to normal standards. if you have enough energy to leave the house you can grab a napkin or cloth and swipe your pits for two seconds with sink water. also, i can't believe i have to say this, but i am obviously not talking about people who do not have access to clean water. and i would never comment on someone's smell in public because i know that cleanliness is a privilege for many. but let's be real the average american does in fact have access to clean and running water consistently. destigmatizing mental health does also not mean letting people fall into bad coping mechanisms. i am not judging anyone by offering a middle ground solution to bathing when struggling with mental illness. yes it's important to remember that people with depression etc cant always do what needs to be done. but any good therapist will tell you to find somethings that works for you to maintain some level of routine. again not saying anything in judgement, but i am a firm believer that some type of cleaning should be done to offset smells in public period. still i am not the type of person to comment on someone who smells in public, as like ive said i dont know what they are going through

[@ane3sha]

yesss i have this exact take and i cant wait for it to catch on! we are not entitled to other people's hygiene, if someone's bo is inconveniencing me, i can only do what i have control over, and i can mask and move away. its 100% more effective for the desired outcome of "not having to smell someone else's bo" than commenting or shaming

[@TheHypnosBunny]

@@user-kx5en8dg7u The thing with mental health is that sometimes you can't force yourself to do ANYTHING.

[@Roseberry_Ro]

Ok in defense of not washing legs- my dermatologist literally recommended to only fully wash them after sweating and/or making them dirty via sunscreen, working outside, or swimming. Washing them all of the time removes a lot of natural oils that help protect the skin, and as long as the shower is warm and you are actually putting enough soap on the rest of your body it’s not like your calves are dirty. Obviously I still wash my upper legs and private areas but washing knees and calves every single time always ended up with my skin being mad at me even if I put lotion on. But yeah I still wash them if I do sweat or do anything that would actually make them dirty. However just chilling over the weekend resting? I’m not bothering with scrubbing. Then again I might just be an exception bc my skin is pretty sensitive and I’d rather have natural skin oils than my legs getting irritated and breaking out. (And it’s not like I’m allergic to the soap otherwise I wouldn’t be able to use it anywhere else)

[@Roseberry_Ro]

*also I shower every other day bc my hair and skin don’t like being washed every day and the fact that showering takes up so much time and effort I physically can’t do it every day, yay chronic fatigue:(.

[@Vesperad0]

Well there you go. Perfect example of not everybody's bodies being the same, and that they should do what's uniquely best for them. I didn't know half of what you said, but it's always good to learn. If you were told by a doctor not to do something (obviously an educated and informed one, but that goes without saying) then don't do it! Idk how unique of a case it is for you, but I hope you don't feel the pressure to wash them if it's literally advised against you doing so.

[@graeson3317]

Have you tried unscented bar soap for when you do wash your legs? I have really sensitive skin that was like yours and it almost completely stopped when I started only using unscented bar soaps and started using a wash cloth instead of a lofa

[@theGhostWolfe]

@@Roseberry_Ro Honestly, most people can get away without using soap (or soap substitute) every single day anyway. I used to do fine with washing my pits and bits and just rinsing the rest of my body in water, doing that every day was plenty. I don’t shower every day anymore, and my skin needs a little help exfoliating now, but over washing just isn’t good for anyone’s skin.

[@sunnybugz]

as someone who struggles with hygeine due to severe depression this shit makes me feel SO ashamed. i work so hard to shower 2-3 times a week and brush my teeth most days and while i know i should do it more (and am doing my best!) these ppl who are saying its gross to shower less than twice a day make me feel so guilty 😭

[@liamhart4040]

Growing up I had to have 3 minute showers because Australia was in such a bad drought that there was concerns we'd run out of water

[@plantfeline]

i was looking for this comment haha! the speediest showers ever. i remember having a lil 3 min sand timer that stuck to the shower wall

[@liamhart4040]

​@@plantfeline what a time to be a suction cup sand timer manufacturer 😂

[@theGhostWolfe]

@@plantfeline I loved my suction cup timer, I kept using it long after restrictions until I dropped and it broke it. To this day I still can’t spend more than 6-8 minutes in the shower, at that point I’ve run out of things to wash and start to get bored.

[@bungafungaoongahunga]

i've heard about this concept from a professor a couple years ago, but by a different name: hygiene theater. it was originally made to refer to continued surface cleaning behavior during the Covid-19 pandemic after it was known the spread was only airborne.

[@jordynensor2081]

i usually go a month without showering. extremely often it’s been more than that, like a lot more, but a month is probably average, maybe, idk. i don’t brush my teeth everyday either. i don’t usually *smell* i mean i don’t smell good for sure but i don’t smell bad either, usually. sometimes it gets a little funky esp considering i don’t change clothes all that often either. i’m not proud of this, why would i be, but ive kinda stopped caring. i don’t leave the house for anything other than therapy appointments anyway so it’s not like im causing a public disturbance. i would love to have a normal ass hygiene routine, but at this point it’s the least of my concerns. i have bpd, adhd, major chronic depression, anxiety, and traits of autism, ocd, and schizotypal disorders i REALLY don’t care how greasy my hair is ive got bigger issues lmao. i would like to brush my teeth more often tho, only because ive started getting cavities and that’s beyond just being gross that’s like a health issue, and teeth don’t heal. these conversations about how cleanliness is viewed i feel are never made for me lol even the ones that mention the way mental health affects hygiene

[@gIoomykitty]

okay now why would u tell this to the whole world

[@Ri57490]

You should brush your teeth every night before going to bed. You don't want issues with your teeth and gums

[@princessmorebucks]

​@gIoomykitty are you the hygiene police? Clearly it's a cry for help. Try being compassionate sometimes 👍

[@izzz222]

I hope you get the support you need, Im sorry people aren’t being very compassionate :(

[@eg4441]

you'll get there one day buddy 🎉

[@damdamfino]

I just don’t like blanket statements about this period. I think a lot of this is situational and needs context. Like if it’s winter, air is dry and cold af, I don’t leave my house and never sweat, yeah I can go a few days without showering. In the hot af humid southern summers, then I feel like I need to shower twice a day. Everyone’s needs are different.

[@emel3925]

I think a good sanity check is “what’s the point?”. Like, if you don’t smell and you aren’t getting sick often, then why should you be on the look out for ways to be EXTRA clean? Also, there are so many ways in which being “extra clean” is detrimental. Constantly sanitizing contributes to microbial resistance, the skin barrier can be damaged, it can weaken your immune system, etc.

[@Alister1142]

FLOSSING CORRECTLY: Every side of the tooth is reached, side and under a touch of the gums, then take the pick part and go under your gum tissue around your tooth front and back. Takes 10-20 minutes depending on how good you are my be even less. Your tooth brush will not remove everything Brush after flossing I don’t always go around every single tooth I might just basic floss but please floss! You want YOUR teeth not unfeeling porcelain. Seriously you can feel your teeth.

[@artwithejj]

Maybe im missing something but how do you have time to spend 10 -20 minutes flossing every morning 😭😭😭 not in a mean way im just confused bc I floss thoroughly but it takes maybe 2-3 minutes at most

[@nughoul]

Even if we did all the steps you said it shouldn't take more then 4 mins... What are you doing in the other 6 - 16 mins that makes it take that long??

[@mundanea1]

I’m obviously doing something wrong, I’ve chipped my teeth twice now while flossing.

[@nughoul]

@@mundanea1 how hard you flossing dog 😰 it might be the floss your using or you have a huge debuff in flossing

[@mundanea1]

@@nughoul Teeth are so scared of the floss that they’re trying to run. I tend to use the ones connected to a plastic pick.

[@themysticmungis4125]

the shanspeare shoutout is a crossover i never knew i wanted

[@starkid_rocks]

I'm cleaning my room while listening to this oh my god 😭

[@blehblehblehdracula]

The 3 minutes for a shower thing is realistic though, hear me out. Lol I can do it and wash everything thoroughly and rinse. It’s the lotion and stuff after that takes time.

[@madlie2452]

👀 hmm

[@bece00]

​@@madlie2452girl you're all in these comments shaming people for not being clean enough. That's a bad habit.

[@madlie2452]

@@bece00 It’s not a bad habit. I’m sorry, but cleaning your body everyday if you leave the house is essential. Are you attempting to say that’s not the case lol?

[@sarahveness1073]

Yeah, the entirety of Australia had 3 minute showers for about a decade during the Millennium Drought and we were perfectly fine. Like, I’m sorry, but what is everyone else doing in the shower? I know some friends with really thick hair would turn the water off if they had to condition, and washing hair and shaving on the same night sometimes meant I would do the same; but 99% of the time it was a non-issue. Maybe the knowledge that we were on the brink of running out of water helped as a motivator but…IDK.

[@princessmorebucks]

​@@madlie2452why do you personally care how much someone is washing their 🍑. It's giving weird.

[@Oliviaturtle1]

I like this video because all the issues and their sources (racism, sexism, colonization, slavery) are still extremely relevant today. Not only that, people are actively trying to say these issues are no longer affecting us today. If we want to improve ourselves as people we have to stop perpetuating these harmful ideas. If we want to stop hurting each other we have to stop hateful cycles of behavior, and hateful schools of thought. It’s relevant, it’s important, it needs to stop.

[@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar]

On the washing groceries aspect it’s actually a good way to get rid of any bacteria present on the products that have been touched by other people, people forget that post pandemic fears have impacted a lot of people and so they might take precautions on their now everyday lives they didn’t consider before due to those experiences

[@SemekiIzuio]

Fruits and vegetables yeah thats normal

[@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar]

@@SemekiIzuio not just fruits and vegetables but even packed food, the packages were still touched by literally anyone and it’s better to clean them before putting them on the fridge

[@jello9739]

​@@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar you're not eating the packaging though. Unless you're severely immunocompromised I promise you will be okay. I work in a grocery store and yeah occasionally I'll find some sticky gross shit but if the packaging looks and feels clean then it is clean. The only bacteria that's on it is the same bacteria that's in the air that will go straight back on once it's dry.

[@Celestials1aurora]

Yea that makes sense I do it for the same reason😭and my ocd and adhd got so bad with anything other people have touched in a store. I end up washing groceries or cleaning products I bring into my house because of how dirty I feel things are and I want to touch or eat something that is clean. My immune system hasnt been the best since cancer but even before I knew I would always do that..

[@BriaBri]

I will admit, I am apart of the group that doesn’t use hotel room towels. Not because I think they’re dirty but because I don’t like the thought of using something that has seen a million a$$ cracks, on my body 😭 the thought pops in my head and it icks me out. I’m also the same way towards silverware in restaurants i’m sorry I just can’t

[@chloehorseshoe7827]

there are times i can excuse poor hygiene, and that's when it comes to mental health. I'd rather a stinky friend than a dead friend.

[@narcissisticmomoi]

nah because i'm average when it comes to hygeine (minus when i have episodes or can't do it because my body physically cannot take it), but due to ocd i have GOD AWFUL contamination ocd. i have washed water bottles, thrown them away because i poured them out somewhere, washed my hands with hydrogen peroxide, all of that because i thought it was contaminated.

[@loveyybugss]

real i have dermatillomania related to my ocd and it’s esp bad with my acne. one time i soaked toner pads in hydrogen peroxide bc i just wanted my skin to be clean so badly

[@narcissisticmomoi]

@@loveyybugss THAT'S AWFUL AND REAL BECAUSE I HAVE SCRAPED SKIN OFF MY FINGERS BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE HOW GROSS THEY FELT.

[@staeriix]

I’ve scrubbed my hands to the point where they felt like they were on fire 😭 it’s horrid

[@Inarizushi_jpeg]

As a person that struggles a lot with hygiene, I would NOT go on tiktok and just talk about my habits like they're normal, it's honestly very embarassing for me

[@Ncognito579]

Why do you struggle with hygiene? Mental health

[@HASQ779]

absolutely the same. its a nightmare out here

[@_bastion]

As someone with no sense of smell, smelling bad has always been a big fear for me. I also didn’t know much about personal hygiene until much later in life and that has really affected me. Y’all, please, teach your kids hygiene. If they don’t know that they should be doing something, they probably won’t know until you tell them and this applies tenfold to hygiene!!

[@cough6167]

i think a lot of them are also accounts trying to sell you stuff "if you dont use my specific product youre stinky cos all the others are worse, this should be common sense!"

[@lauraellison9063]

I think the washing or sanitizing groceries is normal for a lot of people post pandemic. I feel like some people have blocked out of their minds that in a lot of places this was normal and recommended by health officials just a few years ago. And if you or someone you knew got very sick with cxvid, the habits we got into at that time may stick around for a lot longer than others who weren’t impacted in that way.

[@zenleeparadise]

As a person with both depression and OCD, I oscillate between having a hard time getting myself to even shower when I relapse into depression, and having obsessive and thorough cleaning rituals when I'm managing my depression better. And I understand that both of these things are obnoxious, and people shouldn't be glamorizing either problem - but I do think you should extend a bit more grace to these people. There's a chance that they're only bragging about these things because they sincerely have no self-awareness about how unwell their behavior is. I would just... ignore these people and move on, honestly. I don't really understand why seeing someone clean a jar of mayonnaise would bring anything to your mind except pity for how far gone they must be. I think you might be overthinking this issue a bit.

[@TheNwr1]

I guess if no one said it was unusual, the people who do struggle with this would never learn it’s not strictly necessary. But I don’t struggle with ocd so I can’t speak on how this comes across.

[@zenleeparadise]

@@TheNwr1 it's not that it's being criticized, it's how she's doing it. It's this argument she made of "if you're washing your groceries, you think you're better than me", which I just don't think is productive since that's absolutely not what obsessive cleaning is about. She's talking completely past the issue. It's about an internal nagging driving you to do something and has absolutely nothing to do with other people. I also think that she makes a massive assumption when she calls it "performative", as it implies they wouldn't be doing this if not to post on tiktok, and I frankly don't understand what went through her mind when making this leap. I don't understand why she thinks anyone would pretend to be obsessively clean. It doesn't really make sense and there's no real evidence that the people cleaning their jars of mayonnaise on tiktok weren't doing so before deciding to record it, and don't continue doing so after recording it. It is a strange and baseless assumption, and once you take that assumption away, you just have a buncha clean freaks, being themselves in public. Which, when put that way, makes her feeling personally attacked by it seem nonsensical.

[@zenleeparadise]

@@TheNwr1 also I know that's a long and very critical comment I just made but I do wanna clarify I'm criticizing WURLD's argument and not her as a person. Big fan still!

[@Vesperad0]

​@@zenleeparadiseI totally get this, I agree with some of your sentiments...but there really does feel like performance. And I get a feeling means nothing compared to what it actually is, but at the same time I think you're going ""too far"" in the opposite direction by extending so much grace to those who definitely are doing it for show. Or ragebait, who knows atp. Either way I've seen my fair share of people both before and during tiktok lie constantly about whatever it is they do, hype beast or "aesthetics" channel or something more serious like activism/social work. It's like everyday somebody is trying to find something that makes them unique and/or better than others, something that will cause their comments to say "yeah me too girl!!" but neither the commenter or uploader actually does what they claim. It's not like we need proof or anything, I don't like the idea of people having to prove themselves online over things that don't matter, but again just too many people heavily attached to what society considers beauty: and because of that, they're coming up with microtrend aesthetics like "clean girl" and making posts about celebrities aging "gracefully" when they're "unproblematic"...as if people weren't partying while there was (and IS) an active pandemic going around. As if your beauty or proximity to "godliness" is in your fleshy mask. But hey, that's only partially related. Of course my issue doesn't lie with the people who have OCD or other disorders that make them do these things. I'm autistic, it'd make no sense for me to be accusatory to them. My gripe is entirely with those that most definitely say "omg I'm so OCD lol" as if it doesn't severely impact a person's life. People who use this for ragebait, or the average "doesn't want to admit it" racist/xenophobe who straight up believes all brown people are inherently dirtier than white people. Which, yeah, is unfortunately a thing that has and still does exist. Which then compels some brown folk to prove they are clean, harming their psyche and physical body at the same time just to disprove the bull that is racism.

[@zenleeparadise]

@@Vesperad0 I'm sorry, but there is no way to "overcorrect" in this case, seeing as the options are 1) be upset with a bunch of strangers because of what you cynically assume about them or 2) don't think about it and move on with your day. The second option might not be "correct" in the sense that it might not be correctly punishing these people for being like "omg I'm so OCD", but also there's no downside in not socially punishing those people, and doing so is in fact giving into the idea that it's rage-bait, and ignoring them isn't giving them anything to work with at all... So, yeah, I just don't agree that granting them grace is any sort of "overcorrection" and I don't really appreciate the suggestion that I'm not obsessing enough about this, considering I think I've already spent way too much time thinking about this BS as it is.

[@metannoya0073]

as someone who worked in both a hotel and a bakery, both points are pretty valid. We see some gross shit in the hotel laundry and it's 100% valid to wanna bring your own towels, but technically everything is washed to standard. As for bakeries it depends, the stuff easily accesible by customers hands can def be weird best tip is take from the back/bottom and always use sanatizer and paper to grab. Stuff behing the case that only employees can open is totally safe, it's food service and we are very hygenic and the food is sealed off from the outside at all times save for when we're restocking or taking something out for a customer.

[@kariscoyne1886]

RE 3-4 minute showers: this is normal in places like Australia (where I am from) where water is very expensive and most of us grew up with heavy restrictions on water use. Personally I don’t understand what people are doing in the shower for 10+ minutes.

[@tessmoffett5512]

Besides the fact that hot water feels great and it’s relaxing to linger, I think an effective shower could easily be done in just a few minutes. Like, how long does it really take to scrub yourself with soap all over and then rinse it off? Unless it’s a hair washing day, the shaving, conditioning, and clipping is all extra and isn’t strictly ‘hygienic’- moreso cosmetic.

[@joan775]

@@tessmoffett5512yeah exactly i think it should be more about what is done in there instead of how long is spent in the shower

[@theGhostWolfe]

Right? I used to have one of those little egg timers the government dropped in people’s letter boxes, I kept using it for years after the restrictions ended, right up until I dropped it and broke it. I did used to cheat and start flipping it for a luxurious 6min when I still had long hair to wash, but spending more than 10 minutes in the shower makes me start asking wtf else you’re doing in there, and why do you need the water running while you do it? Stop wasting water.

[@twotruckslyrics]

does anyone else talk to ppl in their head while showering 😭

[@lakthederg]

i love these videos because they remind me of myself walking around my room yapping to myself like i’m on camera

[@ChrisBrooks34]

In addition to Shanspeare's wonderful videos; Intelexual Media has a video called Black Women and the Hygiene Olympics. It her most popular video, and it's great. And Mina Le has a great video about this as well. I really enjoyed this video, but truly, the Hygiene Olympics will lead to problems for skin. This is the same for people who have those sometimes overly complex skin care routines that over a long-term end up doing more harm than good. The key is balance. It isn't beneficial to always be using hot water, and possibly harsh asringent soap on your skin 3, 4, or even 5 times a day

[@knockofffatelvira335]

I have PCOS and I live in Texas and PCOS due to it being a hormone imblance it tends to cause me to sweat more and the texas heat is truly cruel and my mother tends to constantly embarass me about my smell and accuse me of smelling horridly and I always asks me if I put on deodorant which I do, it's become part of my routine where I put on deodorant almost every time I'm in my own house and I constantly apologize to friends if I smell bad and they have said ''no you don't stink at all'' I shower almost every single day and constantly being told I smell bad and being called ''disgusting'' by my mother hurts. It also Hurts even more since I'm a part of my fandoms and being a furry people will say stuff like "bet it smells" and I'm constantly insecure of my scent being rancid despite showering brushing teeth etc

[@spuwua]

STOPPP CAN WE FANGIRL ABOUT SHANSPEARE TOGETHER 😭❤️❤️❤️

[@WURLDSTAR]

WE MAY!

[@Astarothiart]

In australia it's very common to not wear shoes, so it's a bit of a culture shock for me to see people find it so gross haha. What is gross? Putting your feet on objects other people have to touch in public. STRAIGHT TO JAIL.

[@cupcakesoup]

I found you from Shan, and I love your sense of humor so much! Side note, "hotel robes" made me immediately go, "well yeah, it makes sense these are rich people problems." My partner and I joke that the signs of a good hotel are a working ice machine and good water pressure

[@AwoogaWolf]

My roommates and I would spray down our groceries on the porch with a sanitizer and wipe it off with a towel but that was at the beginning of lockdown and we thought it was necessary.

[@blue9148]

I am here to admit that i never used to wash my legs (yes i am white) UNTIL one day i saw a video by a young asian woman warning other asian/aapi folks that white people don't wash their legs. That CHANGED ME every single time i shower i now wash my legs very on purpose and make sure i'm getting it ALL clean now. bless that random tiktokker for making sure i am not nasty

[@geraniumbonbon]

As an east asian women i am perplexed on why white ppl dont wash their legs when they shower

[@JenIsHungry]

Directly washing your legs doesn't make your legs much cleaner than letting your body wash/soap run down then while showering.

[@JenIsHungry]

​@@geraniumbonbonnot white- but I'm in there for 5 minutes. I'm not wasting my time with a part of me that is never exposed outside. The water and product is enough.

[@turnsintopastry8847]

people don't wash their legs?

[@tokage_bo]

washing your chicken ONLY makes sense if you clean everything with boiling hot water or bleach afterwards. cause if your chicken has salmonella, it will die after cooking, but the counter may have some of it on it. and the apple you put on it (even after cleaning the counter w a towel) won’t be processed with heat. that’s how you get salmonella in your apple. realistically, meat from supermarkets is 99% safe, but if you trust your local walmart to have germ-free meat, there is no reason to wash it. you’re just spreading the bacteria.

[@twotruckslyrics]

separate your foods 🙏

[@Honeyhams]

Omg the 3 minute shower thing, in the early to mid 00s my area was in a drought so severe the state government (Queensland Australia) sent us 3 minute egg timers with suction cups to keep showers at 3 minutes or less. The restrictions were in place from 2005 to 2009, I got into those 3 in 1 dude washes to try and maximise cleaning time in the short shower. I got down to 90 seconds of water running to wash up properly (water off while lathering).

[@pitycircle4599]

OCD, depression, other mental illnesses as well as income, accessibility, whether or not you are able-bodied etc all plays into this discussion

[@racqueldillon3560]

I became an over-bather when I was 12years old. I also developed hyper-cleanliness so my bedroom had to be just so. This was the result of trauma. I have OCD. I dont post anything on social media about it. The crazy thing is, my friends and family bring it up all the time how my house has to be at a certain level of cleanliness at all times, while I'm just being myself. I dont wash my groceries all the time. But sometimes I do. Particularly, if I'm feeling anxious. I believe that may have started when I read a study in the 90s about how most public surfaces are contaminated because of the questionable hygiene of someone who may have touched it before you. I wish I could be "normal".

[@draalttom844]

A good step is realising you NEED germs and you especially need to expose those germs to babies so they dont develop allergies from hyper cleanliness

[@allisoncarroll1284]

The club thing, you might just get home drunk, being dragged by your friend, and pass out in bed. They can take one in the morning. People have drowned from getting into baths drunk. Yeah we say shower, but the person in drunk and they could plug the drain because they suddenly get the idea for a bath. Taking a shower after taking a dump? How do I do that if I take a dump at work? No one is hanging out in my ass so I can shower later that night. Bleach on dishes sounds dangerous. People don't wash their legs in the shower? Why not? Weird that they don't.

[@BO-vp4qf]

Some of them really opened my eyes to habits I never learnt as a kid (like not sitting in bed w/ your outdoor clothes) .....I know it seems excessive, but now that they've planted the thought in my head, I'm like shit maybe I should clean my fkn groceries ??? Idk where that jar's been?? I have been truly *Influenced*

[@autismvampyre]

as someone with hyperhidrosis and audhd this is kind of a nuanced topic for me. i sweat a lot, and for me to shower every time i do a strenuous activity that makes me sweat woukd mean i'd have shower multiple times a day every single day. that just isn't sustainable, especially with my autism and adhd making it hard for me to shower in the first place. i kinda wish this video touched more on people with disabilities that prevent proper hygiene and conditions like hyperhidrosis which inevitably makes people more "unclean"

[@SarahCarrizales]

I don’t know if I have hyperhidrosis or anxiety sweating, but if I am in public I have huge pit stains. Every day. Even in freezing weather. Typically I am not sweaty at home unless I am around people, which is why I think it’s a nervousness or anxiety thing. I typically leave the house daily though, so sweaty armpits are a daily thing for me, and in turn I smell bad for it. No matter how many tricks I have tried the smell is horrible, and all my shirts have a permanent smell to them. So I know what you mean on feeling unclean even if you are “clean”…. All it takes is for me to wear a shirt ONE day and that armpit smell is there even after washing it. 🥲

[@robynskeletons6881]

Hygiene olympics going on right here in this comment section too 😩

[@NekoFaustus]

washing dishes w bleach was something i was actually taught in home economics lol. or rather rinsing w it. tho in context it was bc everything was being touched and used by multiple groups of ppl over the course of a school day and we both didnt have dishwashers and a full cycle wouldve taken several hours anyways even if we did. rinsing w bleach meant everything was disinfected and clean for the next group of students but yeah unless youre like, running a restaurant out of your kitchen or are incredibly sick and need everything germ-free you probably dont need to wash regularly w bleach

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

i can't even touch bleach. i'm allergic to it

[@nicolelin9543]

I get your tampon argument but for me, after I get out the shower, I usually do the rest of my night time routine while still in my towel. And I’m always worried about accidentally getting blood somewhere or getting water all over my bathroom if I rush myself, so I just stick one in ahead of time so I don’t have to worry about it afterwards

[@goldensloth7]

not everything needs cleaning, shit. most things don't. it won't make you healthier OR happier. i shower once or twice a week cause my skin gets itchy if i use soap too much. fight me.

[@goldensloth7]

but if i have to be around people i shower. i'm a hermit.

[@madlie2452]

It doesn’t make YOU happier. Many people like being clean and enjoy cleaning. You should find a soap that works for sensitive skin. Even if you’re staying in your home all day, not showering for more than a couple days is unclean and can lead to UTIs even if you use wipes.

[@khadi818]

Your skin is itchy probably because you’re not scrubbing throughly enough…

[@cristagalli96]

@@madlie2452 what? That's NOT true at all lmao you're not even supposed to wash your inner vulva with anything more than water

[@smoken4girl20]

Sometimes I wash my groceries but like I have legit contamination anxiety that ruins my life hahahahah but I don’t do it every time only when my brain is like nahhhh these ones are dirty …..

[@Ariel-lol]

18:29 if ur pregnant and don’t have a shower seat it is extremely hard to wash your legs (especially once the bump becomes big) so if your experiencing this, don’t be afraid to ask your partner to come in and help you get those hard to reach areas, and you can also sit down (if your able to get up on your own😭) For me it’s a little difficult but I have a small ledge that I can prop my leg up onto so I am able to clean them

[@TheAbigailDee]

It always comes back to racism and especially slavery and colonialism and you're right for pointing out. I love you for always standing by this.

[@Bclambz]

I just found you and I don’t think I’m leaving. You funny af

[@dreamcaught3876]

just found this channel and subbed in under a minute because you’re hilarious

[@izeofthemonke]

Ok the dump shower is understandable cause my biological clock makes it so it usually lines up with my daily shower 😂

[@GUNSFORTOES]

it skipped the spraying part and i just heard "sweaty scrotum" as i opened the video lmao

[@lacrimis_solis]

😭😭😭 i wash my hands at least 15 times a day

[@so.many.obstacles]

I have co-workers that will take a 💩 and make a beeline for the door. Then you’ll see they digging their raw hands in community food. People are nasty AF. When I leave the restroom, I keep a paper towel in my hand so I don’t touch anything on my way out the door.

[@racdod]

This discourse runs wild in Brazilian twitter. I once unfollowed a girl calling people gross for not showering with flipflops on (which some people do out of need bc electric showers in Brazil will sometimes give you shocks)

[@nooneofnote8453]

I started wearing flip flops when I had roommates because I got athletes foot from it. Then I learned it’s pretty common for fungus to spread that way in communal showers like dorms and gyms. But electric showers and possible shocks? Now that’s scary!

[@lug358]

Everything in excess is perjuditial. Including washing too often. Our bodies not only have bad bacteria, but good bacteria also. This is also why it is very bad that people get antibiotic resistance or get antibiotics when they dont need them; it kills your good bacteria. So washing yourself 5 times a day...i cant think of a day schedule that would have you needing 5 showers a day. I understand showering in the morning and if you later exercise or go to the gym obviously get another shower afterwards. Or maybe showering at night after a long day outside or very hot day. The max times i wash myself a day are 2, and obviously its quick showers. Thats another thing, some people abuse the cleaning products. You dont need body scrubs, sponges, etc everytime you take a shower. You just need a body wash most of the time, and you dont need to be scrubing it all over your body all the time. Your skin gets too dry, it gets itchy...sure you can have a body moisturaizer afterwards but you dont need that everytime you get a shower. You need to wash more often the areas in our bodies that get the dirtier everyday, you dont need to wash your hair, whole body everyday (yes, including people who get greasy hair easily; you dont need to wash it everyday, you can be with a greasy hairstyle for a day or two, or get dry shampoo, but i understand some people like to have their hair like freshly washed all the time). And with your body is the same; you dont need to be scrubbing your arms, your legs...all the time with soap. It is okay if you went out and caught some outside smells; like it happens to me when im near people who smoke or places where people smoke mostly. 15:40 i think is totally possible to take a shower in like 4 or 5 mins. You dont need to wash your hair everytime you shower, how much time do you take to wash the rest of the body? Or some guys because they have short hair can wash everything in 5 mins or less. And yes, be good clean. Like you just need to get under the water, then take gel or shampoo, apply it where it needs, scrub for just seconds or max a min if your are shampooing, and then rinse it. Thats all a basic shower takes, you dont need to be body scrubbing, i dont count getting shaved as part of the cleaning routine...so yeah

[@yagirlzee]

i agree with what you said about the body scrubs/sponges...exfoliation every day (or twice a day) is excessive like you're defo scrubbing away too much oil and causing too much trauma to the skin. 5 minute shower to me isn't crazy either. On long days, I tend to shower twice a day and for the second one, it's usually just a quicker rinse, focus on the arms/legs because I am tired and taking 20 minutes per shower isn't good for the Earth (or your water bill)